Thread 717605212

Better than retail WoW and Final Fantasy 14

Everytime a gw2 thread is posted here it's infested by trannies and faggots who hate the game they tried 12 years ago and still seethe about to this day. No one on /v/ plays this game we have a general for a reason nigger

Stagnant roll slop

dead game

>>717605212 (OP)
It's still shit tho in terms of actual builds
It's got the same problem most modern 'mmos' have. Remove class identity outside of a few 'flavor mechanics' and call it a day.
Except the mechanics in GW2 are often on like minute long cooldowns and there's only fucking 4-5 of them usually so it's pretty shit

Even the fucking elementalist or engineer with all its kits is still just generically the same

anything is better than FF14. It's a fucking single player game with dress up like GW but at least GW tried to do group shit

>>717605904
Name 3 class specific mechanics on a minute cooldown. You don't play the game.

>>717605212 (OP)
>Better than retail WoW
Too much of a coward to say it's better than Classic, huh.

>>717606086
I said like so we'll do 50 seconds to be fair since I'm not a retard

But true, most of them are 30-45 seconds

I suppose from my perspective, playing as engineer and Necromancer, you rarely use them outside of kits/summons.
I'm thinking more shit like the signets, turrets, etc

It seems like they're kinda just 'there' as an attempt at flavour but all other classes do the same shit

If you played WoW, it's like warlock losing summons, life drain and say, every damage over time spell but getting 4 different shadow spells that do damage and corruption as their 'unique dot' kinda deal

it's not that different from an elemental shaman or balance druid if they they were the same with 4 flavours of lightning and 4 flavourso f generic starfireo r whatever

I'm also pissed off Engineer kits are not that different in the grand scheme of combat

>>717606472
Is the Necromancer a good class?

>>717606472
What are you like 10-15h into the game with 0 max level characters? No one uses summons on necro, nor turrets on engineer. Signets are used on 3 classes across the whole game for specific set ups, and unique mechanics are tied to elite specs. I have 4k hours in the game what you're typing looks like idiocy from a brand new player to me. Doing any pve content you're expected to have alac at a high uptime cutting most CDs down by a quarter. Everything is balanced around this for PvE. In PvP and WvW skills and traits have different effects cooldowns icds etc.

>>717606687
It's not bad. It's just not very interesting to me, imo

It's considered very good for players new to the game since between the minions you can summon and Life Shroud (it's profession mechanic that gives it effectively a second, ut weak health bar) and it has some damage over time and one or two life leech skills, it's quite good to get used to the game

If you want to PVP or PVE seriously in groups, don't rely on minions, they're considered very bad for a few reasons, their AI is not good enough for PVP and then die too fast and when they die, they go on cooldown before you can use them again

>>717606898
You didn't actually read my post, did you?
Try reading it again AFTER reading this one
But remove the minute long for 'like 30-45 seconds' instead
>>717605904

Is it still just the Ubisoft game but mmo?

>>717605212 (OP)
It's not gw1 and will never be as good as it

>>717606975
Ok so you are new.

>>717605212 (OP)
I was actually impressed by the level of depth in the pvp. I like their itemization system. Phenomenal millennial aged community where veterans just lounge around helping each other out.

But in the end it is just typical mmo slop.

>>717607058
You're a fucking retard. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean that in a factual manner.

I understand you want to troll and that's fine. But please, troll someone else?

>>717607075
Thing is, tho, I personally found it be a bit like a single player game after a point. Nowhere near as bad as say, FF14 but it felt like there was very little group activity in terms of 'this shit can take you a few dozen hours'. Instead it wants to focus more on your characters stories (assuming you do level multiple)

>>717607258
Post your hours played before trying to actually have an opinion. It's fine for people to criticize the game but what you typed is profound retardation from someone who hit level 15 on on 2 classes and thinks they know the game inside out. Post your playtime faggot

>>717607563
>it literally wants to measure e-penises

erm, I would rather not engage in literal faggotry

>>717608454
No I want to know you played the game(you didn't) it's fine I accept your concession ESL retard. Stick to gold farming in retail wow.

>y-you won't boot up the game for me? Ummm you're an ESL

what the fuck is your argument here? Educate me

>>717608598
>Educate me
If only that was possible for you sub human niggers. You're too retarded to follow basic instruction and tell me how many hours you have. What your highest level character is. You type base class names instead of the elite spec you're using. Clearly you did not play the game. You did the equivalent of a game journo failing a tutorial then giving the game a 3/10. Embarassingly retarded.

>>717608923
>class
called professions in this game, sweetie
And less of the racism too

>>717609041
No one in the community calls them "professions" retard another tick for the "Didn't play the game" box.

>>717609228
Dunno what to tell you, sweetums.
It's what they're called in game. Try it sometime

>>717609269
>The beta male cozys up to the Alpha after total domination
Vile cuckhold behavior.

>>717606687
Very. You can do any role if you get into dungeons, which this game calls fractals, and reaper is one of the best classes for killing trash mobs

What the fuck is this argument you have?
>no see cause uhhhh I believe in a meta that isn't relevant to the game so you didn't play
>no no no see let me post my hours
>now you're a faggot who's also Indian and also for some reason I'm not sure why, a negro
>and no just because the game calls them professions doesn't mean me and my friends call them that so fuck you

Riiiight

The only mmo I’ve ever played is wow but I have never seen an anti-ffxiv post that wasn’t mega ESL, anyone still playing mmos is a retarded faggot anyways

>>717605212 (OP)
All three are poor picks. Guild Wars triumphs over the entire selection.

>gw2, a game where you "punch bigots" and find some lesbo's jadeite dildo, thread is propped up by some fictional-scenario making stereotypical psychotic newfag obsessed with sex
sasuga

>>717605362
I play this game.
It's fun.

>>717609484
>multiple outs to prove he played the game
>can't even do one
You have the surface level knowledge of someone who did a 10 second google post then scanned a reddit thread. You didn't play the game it's simple as. No matter how much you cope seethe or dilate it will not change the fact that you were filtered by level 15.

>>717609663
>now it brings up trannies and admit it just used google and reddit to try to troll and failed

Why are you like this?

>>717605212 (OP)
Troonship simulator with inescapeable ERP encounters and without a doubt the worst writing in the industry since LS2. Neglected, desolate PvP and mindnumbingly boring PvE themepark -- MTX with extra steps.

>>717609712
Holy fucking ESL have chatGPT try again.

>back to esl spam

you have fun, now.

>>717609880
>I didn't play the game therefore I have no argument
We know.

I just started playing, I kinda like these flat gremlins

>>717610056
i want to play one but i just cant make one that looks alright

>>717606975
NTA, but I've mainly played Berserker for the last two expansions, and this is just not a problem I'm having. I use almost every skill on my skill bar as often as I can (there are a few exceptions, like longbow 3 being kinda useless), but always for specific purposes and during specific parts of combat. I'm using my class-specifc skills A LOT, in fact the whole build and spec revolves around getting to mash the "burn fucking everything" buttons as much and as often as possible, and during optimal windows I'll be hitting them almost every second. The flavor and feeling is fucking amazing as well for condi berzerker, just setting everything around you plus yourself on fire because you're so fucking angry is cool as hell. Also Headbutt is the greatest skill in the game, just such a "FUCK YOU" I love it. It's completely unique among specs in GW2, and I've tried most of them.

>>717610957
I followed the posting chain after making that post and now I regret making it.

>>717610172
A lot of the hairstyles are kinda meh, but I really like the one face and the body freckles are cute too.

Do asura have nipples?

>>717605212 (OP)
I tried to play through this solo, but I feel like I'm missing a massive chunk of the experience
Hate world bosses, and dungeons.

>>717610056
Based asura engie

What is the best class for a new player?

>>717612607
Necro or warrior, they have the highest health pools and their mechanics are simple enough. I recommend warrior, it's fun and works exactly how you expect it to.

>>717605212 (OP)
>playing the worst Guild Wars game
hah, no

>>717605212 (OP)
i only remember it having slutty goth outfits and people bitching its missing features from GW1

Charr Supremacy

>>717611907
I have no idea, but your Asura looks nice, how did you do it

>>717605362
ngl I tried it 12 years ago, got extremely pissed off it wasn't much like GW1 and quit.
But I came back a bunch of years later, because I made friends with a guy who played it a bunch, and as long as I went in treating it like its own thing, I do enjoy the game on its own.

Its by no means perfect, but of the MMOs I've tried, its definitely the best. Not having global cooldowns and being able to move around in combat does wonders for actually being somewhat fun to play.

>>717613369
I believe it's like the bottom right face in the first page for asura, gives them a cute nose and big eyes, then I moved the eye width as close together, pumped up the lips and puffy cheeks+narrow jaw, that should be a good base if you like it

>>717612403
>Tried to play through this MMO solo
Are you actually fucking retarded?

>>717612431
Noice, I can't wait to get to that level and have cool looking gear like that, I like their theme

>>717605212 (OP)
I don't hate GW2 (The bears from the last expansion we're really cool), but people aren't that social and something about the game always leads to me getting burned out and uninstalling it after a few months.

The core Tyria story is an absolute slog near the end.
After that the game improves significantly if you focus on the main expansions. Then drops again at End of Dragons. SotO is interesting in theory but just drags on forever. Don't own Janthir since the stuff it gives is mediocre. Might be forced into it if I want to play Paragon.

The thing I like the most about it is that a lot of progression is do it once and never have to fuck around with it again. Like getting the mounts leveled up or just getting the Skyscale. Account wide QoL masteries and achievements are such a good idea. Same with Legendaries.

>>717613731
I know you are, acting like this is somehow a new trend.
My girlfriend also plays MMOs solo.

>>717613967
I have to admit that what you see there is a cashshop outfit, but on level 80 you will quickly start to accumulate enough gold to buy stuff you like without using real money.
Also there are still a metric ton of free cosmetics. In fact, I usually prefer them because outfits are just that one singular outfit, while the various cosmetic skins can be switched and combined as desired.

>>717614269
That’s an incredibly boring way to play. What are you doing? Just story and map completion?

What use is crafting before you get into making Legendaries? Is it a good way to make money or naw?
I have 3 level 80s and have barely touched crafting at all. But I'm sitting on assloads of Bloodstone and other mats and wondering if I can turn it into something useful.

>>717614635
Need it at 500 to get ascended weapons and armor, which you need in order to do fractals

>>717614758
Yeah, but can you make money with it?
Or actually, how to make a good income in general? Is it just doing Fractals and other content and selling off the rares and above or something else?

>>717612607
Necro or Ranger as they have adds that will tank for you, Necro in particular is hard as fuck to kill if built properly as activating your second HP bar will heal your first HP bar, and vice versa

>Main Rit in GW1
>Play GW2 but always sort of miss the old buildcraft
>ANet tease Rit spec for new expansion
>Get excited despite knowing I'll be disappointed
>Its just a Necro Elite spec with a few weapon skill utilities.
Sadge

A shame the cat race is so ugly.

>>717615161
I don't think there's huge opportunity for profit with bloodstone dust, empyreal fragments, dragonite ore, etc. They are used to craft ascended gear so it's good to refine some into bloodstone bricks etc to have on hand for when you do want to craft ascended stuff. A lot of people just delete them. There's also some "gobbler" items like Herta, Mawdrey etc that will eat some of those once per day in exchange for some scraps.
The daily/recommended fractals give a lot of money once per day, and a decent amount of that is in vendor items that give raw gold too which is kinda rare because yeah most of your profit from playing is from selling item and material drops, salvaging drops and selling those mats, etc. You can make good money from instanced PvE content like fractals/strikes/raids, from open world content doing meta-trains or farming maps like Drizzlewood Coast or Dragonfall, from arena PVP if you can tolerate it, from fishing, etc. Usually though you'll need to go through a few steps to realize your gains, like converting a map specific currency to something you can sell on the trade post or craft with etc. The raw gold you get from most activities isn't much.

>>717605362
>trannies and faggots who hate the game
Trannies literally write music for this game thoughbeit

>>717605212 (OP)
>horizontal progression

>>717615161
Fractals and meta trains are the best way to make money. On my days off I’ll do fractals then
>Matriarch
>Pinata
>LLA
>Tangled Depths
>Auric Basin
>Dragon Storm
I make about 80 gold when I do that, but I have fractal god so I can just sell off my infusions and matrices now

>>717617384
Jeremy Soule is a rapist and a wife beater but not a tranny.

>>717617440
>treadmill slave
>>717617191
They look badass

>>717617440
>Please daddy blizz, I want you to waste my time as much as possible
>The 30 hours I put in last expansion? I want it to be worthless this expansion. Utterly wasted.
I'm convinced treadmill people are all just findoms but with time.

>>717617638
never convicted so not true.

>>717617254
>>717617492
Damn, guess I better get into Fractals then
I've never even had 50 gold to rub together, let alone 80 a day.

>>717617191
It’s hard to find armors that look good on them, but they’re okay. The only I dislike is Asura cuz they’re too small for me to actually see my fashion on them. I have 2 and one of them just sits parked at Wyvern Matriarch for the last 8 years

>>717605212 (OP)
Immersion is at 0 for me, which is the most important part of any game. Mostly because of the writing and world building.

>>717617440
That's the best part of gw2.

>>717617802
Do it. They’re fun. I don’t what the next expac will do for classes, but I strongly recommend getting into fractals with either a reaper necro or mech engineer. They both have high damage and survivability that you’re gonna need in the early levels cuz earlier tier groups are notoriously hard to work with

>>717605362
I played it literally today

it's still fucking garbage

>>717618017
>Necro and Eng
Neat. My first character is an engie and she has ascended accessories. I'm currently leveling a Necro since I came back for the Rit spec.

>>717605212 (OP)
It's trash, the two last expansions were asset recycling scams. The game is in maintenance mode while they burn the lootboxes money on GW3.
Fuck you and whatever gw2 discord you came from.

>>717617802
Don't. They're great money but they're painfully unfun. Like the game in general isn't great but fractals are just about the least fun you can have playing.

>>717617802
Instanced content is a good source of money. Join SG and join a progression or training raid static. Do raids once a week and fractals however many times, but don't fall into the trap of being instanced only. Once you stop doing open world shit this game turns into a loot tredmill.

>>717605212 (OP)
All my xisters love GW2!

>>717617802
Remember you make more gold when you play the game (outside of swiping of course), and you play the game less when you do shit you don't like to do. Fractals are great income if you like doing them though, I'm with anon though I don't really like them personally but I don't like instanced PVE stuff in general. Open world meta-event trains are great, I love how chill they are but there's often some downtime between events and they do not challenge you at all. Fishing for a few hours can easily get you 80 gold but many people don't like the fishing minigame, it's not quite active gameplay but not an AFK activity either.

>>717618218
Getting shit loads of gold and ascended weapons for 40 minutes of easy work and playing with others in a coordinated manner is the fun

>>717618185
>GW3
Source?

>>717618431
>the rewards are the fun
then it's not fun

>>717618437
https://www.mmorpg.com/news/guild-wars-3-confirmed-to-be-in-development-though-it-seems-its-still-in-its-early-stages-updated-2000130976
Don’t expect anything from it though, Anet is a tranny studio these days and they’ve carefully ruined every part of the GW1 lore they could get their hands on with non binary characters and Tumblr writing

>>717618496
I guess you missed the part about having to coordinate with a team
You can just ignore everything in open world and still do fine. I think those are fun too, but definitely not as involved as instanced content.
I think wvw is dreadfully unfun and the rewards are total shit

>>717615161
>>717617254
It's absurdly easy to make gold
https://fast.farming-community.eu/

Farming gold in this game is a waste of time.
While you’re working your ass off to farm stuff or run metas for a few miserable items to sell, someone else will have their bot teleporting from resource node to resource node, to chest after chest all over the world, then undercutting you on the TP and making your stuff worthless.
Bots have been rampant in this game for decades, and Anet has never found a way to really get rid of them, let alone ban the main accounts of the people operating them.

>>717618437
In addition to the beans being spilled at a shareholder meeting like the article anon linked to describes, there's been a ton of hiring for positions at and above senior and lead levels specifically for an unannounced project that is almost certainly Guild Wars related.
Pic related is just a screen cap of link below, spreadsheet on what keywords are used in job postings to get an idea of what the game might be.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w5QRPDkD51K2vuI56mbflkfCFP67Nwt6vRRcunOME54/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Notably (imo) they've hired for Senior Brand Manager and Head of Publishing late last year. Those don't seem like positions you would fill unless you're confident you're bringing your project across the finish line. Not saying GW3 announcement is imminent, probably within 2 years though (again imo).

>>717618683
>fractals
>coordinating with a team
outside of CMs (which are even less fun) and Silent Surf, you don't need a lick of coordination.

And the point I'm trying to make is that the entire game isn't very fun to play in general once you reach the "end game."
your options are
>open world meta trains (easy but pretty dull)
>wvw (can be fun if you like PvP, just a slog for whatever rewards you want if not)
>fractals (absolute dogshit)
>raids (actually pretty fun but W8 clearly shows they don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore)
>strikes (fine I guess but they're just FFXIV-style slapping a boss in a circular arena)

>>717605212 (OP)
Not exactly a high bar.

>>717619268
>shitter can't do CMs
>cries about it
Kek every time.

.t all LCM titles

>>717618671
>>717619138
What will happen to GW2 if they release GW3?

>>717619109
yea I've not played in a few years but at the time if you were doing anything manually outside of fractals and raids you were the butt of the joke
Nearly everyone in my guild had a second account for botting lol

>>717619360
that's nice dear, when was the last time you did 100CM? Oh, almost never? Because it's so fucking dogshit no one bothers doing it?

>>717619390
Gw1 is still active to this day, so nothing.

>>717605212 (OP)
Devs are megatroons tho, game is pozzed af

>>717619480
I would guess the server costs for GW2 are significantly higher than GW1, so I wouldn't be so sure.

>>717619390
Probably same thing they did GW1.
Put it on permanent ice, but leave the game available for as long as they can.
GW1 apparently requires almost zero maintenance cost, which is why its still up and playable. I would be surprised if GW2 is that light, so maybe 5 more years then shut down.

>>717619456
Last night during my daily clear? Groups fill for it regularly with little issue. Only hard thing about it is finding someone who can do glut but I have 2 people I play with who can do any role. If I'm alone then LFG is maybe 10m max.

>>717605212 (OP)
>>717605362
I played this shit Day 1 and it sucked, watched the trailer for the new DLC and it looks awful, why would I go back???

i'll try GW2 when i run out of shit to do in Dawntrail

>>717619390
The studio director recently said on a stream that he really regrets not continuing better support for GW1 after GW2 came out. At the very least GW2 (and 1) will continue to get maintenance updates and pre-scheduled events as GW1 does now, but there's a chance they might do smaller content packs for it. I wouldn't bet on it personally though to be honest.

Does it run in Linux?

>>717619698
yep

>>717619675
>The content is too hard for me so it's too hard for everyone
This type of retardation is the worst. Dozens of groups run it daily you can open LFG within 2 hours after reset and find K.E groups running. I fill as late as 1-2am pst you're coping insanely hard.

>>717619806
ok little buddy, I just won't believe my lying eyes

>>717605212 (OP)
tranny niggerkike game and worst mmo of all time

>>717619456
People are more likely to skip Kinfall than LT for CM groups thougheverbeit. Fractal+ All CMs is averaging like an hour and a half now that they added another CM.

>>717620040
>tries to act patronizing but is the one who can't do 100cm
Kek. I don't care what you do or don't believe, but don't spread your tranny misinfo here.

>>717618185
this
/thread

For anyone looking to get into Guild Wars 2.. while it doesn't have a subscription there's a decent amount of content to purchase. To get all the actual content of the game, including the upcoming expansion, it would be about $175 without a sale or $115 with a sale. More if you don't buy bundles like the Complete Dragon Saga Collection which is $100, or $50 on sale. There's also some convenience items they sell in their Gem Store you'll probably want eventually, though you can convert gold to gems in-game. Obviously you don't have to buy this all at once, though I do recommend the collection I mentioned instead of doing any of the first 3 expansions or Living World content separately, you'll save yourself money and frustration later. I am biased of course, but I honestly think even full price isn't a bad deal if you play long term, that's like a year of of subscriptions on a sub based MMO. I'll even go a bit further on shill mode and recommend getting the Ultimate edition of either Janthir Wilds or the upcoming Visions of Eternity to get infinite gathering tools and a bunch of discounted gems for character slots, bag slots, fashion, whatever.

>>717619698
not anymore

>>717620365
>find fractals dogshit and unfun
>lmao why don't you do the even more unfun version of them
I've cleared Sunqua and Silent Surf CM, then I said "wow this fucking blows" and haven't bothered since.

I got my Ad Inf, I'm never touching that garbage content mode again.

>>717620416
tl:dr don't buy this shit, it's "free" but you'll have a terrible experience until you swipe the cc
Also this
>>717619109

>>717620552
I accept your concession. Trashcans always talk as if they know the game. You can't even complete the content and you're here saying "no one does it" embarassing.

>>717619534
Probably covered by the whales for a while even afterwards

>>717620552
With the mats I have I could spend like 600 gold and do the short achievement chain for Ad Infinitum but instead I'm feeding Orrax thousands of gold worth of food just so I don't have to do fractals.

>>717620552
I’m the guy who said fractals are worth it, but I’m not the guy you’re arguing with about CM’s. I don’t do them either, but making a shit load of gold from really easy content is well worth it for me

>>717620714
why would I ever listen to a fractalnigger

>>717620416
should i buy the elder dragon saga right away or just play the free trial for a while

>>717620856
Play the trial for a while. The base game, especially under level 80, isn't the best representation of the actual game but you can at least get a vague feel of the systems and stuff before you drop money on it. There's no rush to buy since there's no sale currently, probably won't be one until Steam's autumn sale.

>>717620416
You did enough fractals do make ad infinitum but say they suck?
This is like one of those 2000+ hrs would not recommend reviews.

>>717620856
NTA
Do the free content to find out if you like the game.
Then if you do, the Elder Dragon saga is probably the best content, and also best bang for your buck.
Personally I find the latter half of the free story (the stuff in Orr with Trahearn, you'll know it right away) to be pretty dull, so keep that in mind.

>>717620856
Heart of Thorns through LWS4 (so like two thirds of the elder dragon saga) are the best (and arguably the only good) content the game has to offer, but I would hesitate recommending spending money on the game before you're sure you'll enjoy it.

>>717620856
NTA but someone said we get an anniversary sale soon. Check the date on google. Grab the dragons bundle for it first sale, and get the rest at black Friday imo. That way you aren't sinking 130$ all at once.

Im installing it right now after a long time, its not great, but itll fill the time until gw3, which will hopefully be good
gw2 is perfectly serviceable, if only because wow is dead and xiv is killing itself at an alarming rate
Hope gw3 takes the good bits from xiv, before it settled on suicide

>>717621054
No I only got to like fractal level 50 before I decided I didn't really care for them. My understanding is that it really doesn't take a huge amount of time to get the journal pages and none of the achievements for Ad Infinitum require anything hard.

>>717621097
Not going to lie I was at least one person mentioning the anniversary sale but apparently they stopped doing that a couple years ago in favor of waiting a few more weeks to do it at the same time as Steam's autumn sale. Sorry for anyone holding out on that.

>>717620779
>I need gold
>fractals are good gold
>I really don't like doing fractals though
>what do I even need gold for, anyway
>some legendary?
>but getting the legendary never really seems worth it once I'm done
>wait a minute

Name things GW3 should copy from other mmos to make an actually great mmo
Ill start
>dungeon structure from XIV, that is, several pulls of mobs that hit decently hard, a wall that opens after you clear them and then a boss
The current structure is a bit shoddy and whatever retail wow has just has the tank pull the whole dungeon at once while you try to catch up, it sucks and if you prefer not having to participate in the dungeon, play a gacha game

>>717621404
Nta but there's so many gold making methods in this game that you can pick what you enjoy and profit from it. GPM matters less than fun per hour imo

>>717621682
well it's too bad the entire game sucks, then.

>>717621671
Buildcraft of GW1.
Thats always been what I've wanted out of an MMO.

>>717620416
>175 or 115
>for content that'll always be there
>free to do it whenever I like
Not bad

>>717621054
literally and unironically yes

>>717621671
This

>>717622349
Fractals are more for people over 2k hours. 1k shitters don't understand kino yet.

>>717622337
*doesn't includes mandatory bank tabs, character slots, inventory slots, shared slots, salvage bots, unlimited gathering tools etc.

>>717621671
Tank, healer and dps trinity

>>717622046
You mean the limited skill slots and the attributes?

>>717622525
Gold to gem. My gold is crazy volatile so I'm an outlier but I can hit upwards of 1k gold in a week. Abusing wizards vault and selling a single leggy will buy you all you need as well. People paying money for that shit are delusional.

>>717620648
you will still have a terrible experience even after you fall for paypigging for p2w cashgrabspansions and p2w baubles and gacha p2w black lion chests

>>717622582
Ill happily take that, but proffs will need atleast 2 roles each, and healers should just be auto heal bots like monks were
A necro healer who drains health to then redistribute among the party would be nice, you'd be rewarded for bold play since it would net you more "life force" to dump onto your party for example

>>717622867
shouldnt*
its midnight and im tired

>>717622729
>Gold to gem
Waste of time unless you're botting or pulling shenanigans on the trading post and you know it

>>717622046
Is WvW profitable at all? It's about the only gamemode I'm interested in.

>>717622654
I mean having 75+ skills per profession, with 2 professions per character to freely mix and match. Then adding Attribute distribution on top of that.
Having "only" 9 skills to play with but nearly infinite variety in how those 9 skills can be combined was fucking incredible. ANet will never do it again because balance was a nightmare, but I don't give a shit. Thats what I want and will always want.

>>717622337
Like anon said so eloquently, you probably will eventually want to grab some gem store convenience items which is why I suggest doing the +$50 ultimate edition on JW or VoE to get gathering tools (worth ~$30) and $50 worth of gems. Once your account is established (got all the mounts and masteries you need/want, a build or 3 geared, etc) it's pretty easy to get whatever you want on the gem store just playing the game however you want and converting gold to gems.
>>717623003
>play game how I want
>materials and currencies accumulate
>refine and sell once in a while
>convert a few hundred gold to gems every month or two
Sounds like a skill issue.

>>717605212 (OP)
WoW is dogshit, FF14 is too. Being better than either isn't a high bar, and in fact GW2 is also fucking terrible.

>>717623003
I don't see how it is a waste of time when other MMOs you have a rampant bot problem as well. While the money in those games is worthless. I don't even understand how or why people are buying gil in fucking ff14. I don't know about WoW I haven't played that shit since BFA.

>>717623003
I mean? No? I'm not a casual player but I know casual players who can still gold to gem what they want. I do all instanced CMs daily/weekly and alot of open world content on top of occasional title sells, so I have thousands of gold moving in and out regularly, but a casual player who does some weekly raids/strikes or fractals and some open world meta trains will still make hundreds of gold a month lmao

>>717623118
>Sounds like a skill issue.
Sounds like a "my time isn't worthless" issue. You accumulate all your shit for months and all you get is a few hundred gems meanwhile botters get thousands while they sleep.
The economy in this game is fucking fucked beyond any salvation

>>717623117
I was playing with a friend when we figured out the pain resonance tech
>summon 10 horrors
>mark target
>watch everything explode because the horror damage doesnt matter, only the fact that they hit does
necro was a really fun prof, now it just doesnt have that charm to it
I think boons should be removed honestly, bring back unique enchantments andhexes n shit, not these generic damage ups and speed shit, so homogenized and lame

>>717623113
Yes just make sure you use the best reward tracks + boosters and loot all bags off the ground on kills. Weekly rank means alot too so it's like a full time job until you max it the first time, then it cuts down hours significantly.

>>717622480
>playing this dogshit game for 2K hours
sad

>>717623003
How? Gold accumulates pretty much passively when playing.

Updating the launcher again because tall norn GF.
It's been quite a while since I've played it tho

>>717623337
I'm struggling to understand what you want.

is condi herald still a thing

>>717605212 (OP)
gw2 is repulsive, everything from the way it controls to the way it sounds

>>717623816
he probably wants a good MMO with a stable economy that isn't overrun by bots

>>717623342
Thats part of the beauty of having so many skill combinations. You get some very obviously unintended but fun results. 55monk is famous, but so many other things could be done.
I mained Rit, which was fun as shit because it could do so many different things. One of the more interesting was going Rit/Nec and minion bombing. Rit had a buff that made allies explode when killed. But you could cast it on your own minions. So you can wipe huge numbers of enemies with basic minions.
Also Necro actually requiring enemy bodies was such a cool touch.

>>717624170
When I was a kid, my first and only character to reach 20 was an elementalist
I spammed flare because it was so cheap that I could just press it forever, I was not very smart
My favorite has to be dervish though, the idea of a tank-ish character having sweep attacks and cloaking himself in sandstorms n shit was so cool

>>717605362
I only played the vanilla launch, but right now ive been considering waiting for a sale and trying the game again soon. From that perspective, what has changed since then? I'm genuinely curious

>>717623314
Most other MMOs don’t trust the client to tell where a character is. Anet has let botters teleport anywhere for decades. How incompetent do you have to be as a company to let that happen?
Also, you answer your own question:
>While the money in those games is worthless.
Gold is everything in GW2. If your game’s centered around a trading post, you’d better make damn sure cheaters can’t fuck with it, or your whole playerbase will suffer
>>717623816
Just telling it like it is, the true GW2 experience, while discord raiders are selling fairy tales

>>717625152
I can see how that is an issue where bots can drive up the exchange rate in this game. Maybe because I'm just a filthy casual I don't really care. This game is the vacation home for the other two main MMORPGs.

>>717625050
There's a few posts in here that go over some of it, but a short rundown
>elite specs
Game focuses around these now. They're profession upgrades each profession gets 3 soon to be 4.
>Xpacs
Each xpac offers 3-4 maps with giant open world metas attached to some and more solo content attached to others. Milage will vary people do all content across every map still regardless.
>instanced content
They added fractal (new dungeons bite sized) raids(full story with multiple encounters) and strikes(single boss fights from story missions amped up) all with challenge modes that make them anywhere from 1.2-3+ times as hard for more loot.
>pvp /wvw
Not much has changed but they give much better rewards now.
>mounts
Unironically the best travel system in any game. Mounts in gw2 offer a very much one of a kind feel in mmos WoW literally stole the dragon from us. Each mount has unique abilities and effects for different types of traversing.

>else
Community is very discord oriented now lots of seasonal yearly events that vary in how fun they are. Story is kinda shit still and always will be. Progression is horizontal so there's no gear treadmill but cosmetics and convenience to grind for instead. Reply with any specifics you wanna know and I'll try to answer.

>>717625673
Well casuals are the first impacted.
Since resources are worthless thanks to teleport botting, it’s even harder for them to accumulate enough gold to exchange for gems and buy the latest QoL item pushed by Anet on the gem store without swiping the cc

>>717609618
GW1 is still a shell of its former self thanks to absurd power creep and ANet's reluctance to split PvE and PvP skills until it was too late

>>717626123
>GW2 makes the best mount system in the genre
>commits the classic blunder of a flying mount fucking everything up

>>717605212 (OP)
I've been thinking o getting into this. Is it really ok to play on a controller? I know there is no oficial controller support but from the videos I've seen there are comunity controller layouts, are these good, as any anon played it like this?

Imagine GW2
with the good parts of GW1

>>717626274
Skyscale is a jack of all trades master of some. Griffon mogs it in fun and speed, requires alot more skill to use but it gives an insane fucking feeling when you master it.

https://youtu.be/dB-Xt8FojQw?si=epLwYe9c4C0kPOcK

For an example if you haven't already seen it. My favorite way to travel by far.

>>717626274
Skyscale is great. Getting one makes the early game grind and leveling new characters so much nicer.
Its kind of a pain in the ass to get one, which I think is part of the point. Its a huge reward for the time put in.
And it makes maps like Drytop not the worst thing ever to traverse.

>>717626486
Griffon is absolute kino, 11/10 but Skyscale is vastly more useful and usable 99% of the time, on top of making almost every other mount completely irrelevant

>>717626707
Probably why they're slowly reworking the mounts since skyscale mogs.

>>717626190
>fish for 2 hours
>earn 75 gold
>convert to 200 gems
omg so hard niggerman save me!!

>>717606389
that was implicit since retail>classic

>>717627330
Congrats, you just wasted 2 hours playing the dumbest, most alienating minigame Anet ever shat out for 1/4 of a character slot.
There are bots for this too btw, so your 2 hours could’ve been 30 minutes for the same amount of gems if Anet ever bothered to get rid of them

>>717627946
>playing that video game isn't WORTH it
Okay dad.

>>717628086
playing a video game is supposed to be fun
two hours of GW2 fishing isn't fun

>>717628086
Come on now, don't try to tell me you're having fun fishing in GW2 for hours, it's annoying after the first 5 minutes

I didnt even know this game had fishing

>>717606389
what do you think the word "retail" means, blizztroon?

Alright, game is almost installed
What prof do I play?

>>717628246
I'll admit it isn't something I'll often sink 2 hours on in one sitting but I like doing it for 30min to an hour, I'll even do it at less profitable spots just for different nice scenery. I'll do more if I'm binge watching something.

>>717628687
Mesmer, ele, engineer, thief, everything else is for faggots.

>>717628687
just b urself

Post Asuras, faggots.

>>717628832
> I'll do more if I'm binge watching something.
Well, that’s exactly why fishing sucks, you have to keep your eyes glued to the screen
Unless of course you use that cheat that makes the marker stop moving. Yeah, that exists too

>>717617191
They're the best looking cat race actually. Their armors just look crappy most of the time since its just human armor stretched over it.

>>717617638
I was talking about Lena Raine

>>717629345
Back to the general with you.

>>717626854
they're doing that on purpose to sell expansions
remember how they nerfed turtle stomps even though its main feature was being the first combat mount and has no other use for a solo rider?
then they added the fireball in soto which gives a solo rider a ranged, spammable attack
just like how they took away the unique rune set bonuses and moved them to relics, forcing you to buy expansions to get back what you already had

>>717629660
>forcing you to buy expansions to get them back
Relics aren't locked to soto nigger. There was NEW statlines exclusive to soto but all old relic effects were available and you were given MULTIPLE relic boxes for all relic stats up to soto on launch, PER character. Let's not tell lies now.

>>717628687
Chadian.

Are you guys sure gw3 is actually coming? I thought that shareholder meeting was just the guy talking out of his ass to cover for bad numbers and they later said it isn't actually in production?
If anything they should make a gw2.5 instead

>>717629792
niggertranny

Man, I want to experience 2006 HA again

>>717617638
Jeremy Soule hasn't written music for the game since the initial launch

>>717630071
Those are new relics. Not the old relics you literally get for free on every character. I still have 20 unused relic boxes.

>>717630071
and there are like 40 core relics that you don't need to buy any expansions for

>>717630071
Your post quite literally proves nothing. As i said they added NEW relic effects and put them in soto and later. ALL old effects are available to owners of previous expansions without having to buy soto. I logged into the game. DID NOT BUY OR OWN SOTO, and got these for free. My new friend who owned only hot + pof was able to craft base game relics. It must be hard being so fucking illiterate. I'll say it once more ALL previous relic effects were available to NON SOTO OWNERS.

>>717630037
they should make GW1.5 instead

>>717630071
They beatin your ass in thr qrts unc

>>717630037
They tried to backtrack because they want people to keep spending money on GW2 for now, but it’s definitely being worked on.
Now with ArenaNet being what it is these days, there’s nothing stopping it from still being canceled anytime before release

>>717629792
the most common rune at the time was scholar (which already gave the 6th stat bonus). it was simply nerfed to remove the extra effect of bonus damage with health threshold, and there's no relic for that. like, how do you not know that?

>>717630637
So there is no relic for it regardless of if you have soto or not, that means its simply a nerf that has nothing to do with whether you spend money or not.

>>717630817
>goalposts
they could add it back as an expansion relic in the future. nonetheless, your claims about what they did or did not replace are obviously pulled from your ass.

>>717630637
Fireworks is outright better with a higher skill cap usage. They tried to remove lazy passive effects and make them more proactive even if they still kind of came out samey. No one misses the old relics. Having more build freedom is always better.

>>717631038
You're the one moving goalposts
>they made a whole equipment slot dlc only
>no they didn't
>w..well they didn't add 5% passive damage as a relic they could in the future
>there's over 10 relics that give a 10-15% damage increase for filling out a condition. Which is usually easier than being at 90% hp
Are you retarded?

>>717630817
>you need to buy soto to get access to content you had before!
you don't and you just get them for free
>but not all of them!
that effect literally doesn't exist anymore whether you have soto or not
>b-but what if they add it again
You're the goalpost mover.

>>717631078
your post is just opinions my dude. i don't care what you think, this isn't reddit.

>>717631559
>fireworks is outright better being an opinion
5% os objectively lower than 7% but ok

>>717631275
i was only using scholar as an example to show your all-caps claim about replacing everything was objectively false in the most obvious way. keep doing those gymnastics retard.

>>717605362
Meanwhile in reality
>https://youtu.be/GxTiwKvp348?si=t481pfhIAGwhearG

>>717631737
It's a terrible example, because it proves nothing. Provide an example of a relic effect they removed from runes then locked behind a DLC. Any single one? You can't because they don't exist. They removed old stat lines, replaced them with higher numbers and added brand new effects for relics in Soto and JW.

>>717605212 (OP)
what's with the sudden influx of pro-GW2 threads?
Last I checked (like 3 years ago I think) everyone shat on it, and last I played heart of thorns only just released

>>717632201
new expansion coming out so they're doing a little guerilla marketing

>>717632201
new expansion and new specializations announced

>leveling from lvl 1 to 80
>using the instant lvl 80
What should I do? In WoW leveling was the best part of the game. How is it in GW2?

>>717632503
Its the worst part of the game. But as a new player you should do it at least once because othwrwise you'll be hopelessly lost in terms of understanding the game mechanics.

so is the game actually worth buying? what is the sell, outside the combat which is imo held back by shit enemies
i played the trial version of a few characters and only warrior and mage seem fun

>>717632824
fuck no

>>717632503
Suck it up and do it once. That's your time to learn controls/ read some traits/abilities build craft and learn the game. use the tomes you get if you wanna make it faster but use the 80 boost on an alt. If you boost and fuck off to the DLC areas you're going to be absolutely fucking lost.

also to buy GW1 or 2?

>>717632824
>what is the sell
There's too much to explain in a post. If you like the combat it only gets better as you play harder content and more advanced builds. PvP is some of the best across pretty much any MMO outside maybe Elsword/ BnS in my honest opinion. It's a theme park MMO there's genuinely something for everyone. If you don't like the free version you might not like the paid one, but I've seen the opposite too. I didn't like the base game but now have over 5k hours played. I'd watch some videos and see if you're interested but don't buy anything if it's not on sale, outside of maybe 10$ for the HoT / PoF combo.

>>717632503
You should level to 80 normally at least once
After that its up to you. I have like 4 level 80 boosts I've never touched because you still "have" to go through the story normally anyway. And having at least some map completion is nice for when you go back to those areas, so I don't see much point.

>>717632682
>>717632879
Okay, thanks. I'm going to level up from lvl 1. Which race/class should I use as a new player? Human warrior is a classic but the necromancer sounds fun.

I get back into gw2 every now and then after a few years break and am relieved every time because of the horizontal progression. That is its best feature.
I guess it's the perfect MMO to binge play and then drop once you get bored.

>>717632952
GW1 is completely empty. Its not an MMO anymore. And a lot of content is impossible without going out of your way to skip ahead and get the customizable NPC bots they introduced in the last expansions.

>>717633276
I heard some say its a good RPG/tactics game.

>>717633173
I'd pick a straightforward dps class as a first character. Not mesmer, engineer or necro. They just dont feel satisfying to play until you get a complete expac loadout.

Shit game.

First of all I feel like a brainlet because I could never understand how the fuck this game's lategame PvE works.

From what I remember I paid out of my ass for 2 expansions, bought a 3rd expansion, then tried to get started on some nu-dungeons and couldn't because I had to purchase DLC dungeons. Like, micro-transaction dungeons that are not contained in the expansions. And the community is 100% fine with this because 1) they were free at the time of release but new players get fucked in the ass, and 2) you can technically buy them with in-game currency just grind for months goyim :^)

This soured my experience and I gave up on the game. They say that it is a "cheaper game than WoW" and maybe on the long run it is, but the upfront payment for getting access to all the content is way, way higher than WoW.

My other criticism is that class fantasy is awful in this game. If you want to be a caster you can't just "make an elementalist" because you'll end up forced to use melee weapons since staff + scepter is an awful combination. In my experience the abilities that feel good to use rarely match the aesthetics I wanted. Sometimes it's silly but I want my warrior to use a greatsword and yet the hammer skills feel much better, it just annoys me.

But the biggest problem with class fantasy is the fact that you don't build your character skill by skill. You have nearly all abilities unlocked by level ~12 and again they depend on the weapon, most people will max their character without even having the chance to try every ability, it's a clusterfuck. The character progression happens in an awful HUD where you have to cycle through at least 4 different pages of different passives/actives/perks, WoW did it much better by putting all your character progression in one single screen (the talent screen).

Anyway I really wanted to enjoy this game, the quest system is brilliant and there is a lot of good to be said, but the cons severely outweigh the good imo

>>717633173
The racial stories all converge around level 20-30. So pick whichever you think is cool. Its otherwise purely a cosmetic choice.
Classes are mostly all fun. Warrior will probably give you the most variety at the start. Necro, unfortunately, does not have a meta spec that actually uses the minions, its all about DoT damage. I think Mesmer is still one of the most unique classes in any MMO so I tend to recommend it.

IF YOU PLAY GW2 WITH A WARRIOR
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
DISABLE AUTO ATTACK ON YOUR BASIC 3 HIT COMBO
instead of making the game play like an aciton game, it instead regresses the quality of the game by a huge margin

>>717605212 (OP)
>better than WoW Retail
probably by far
>better than FF
FF is ahead but not much

>>717632824
For me it's the open world and "meta-events", basically big zone-wide spectacle event chains. Most of them are really easy so it's usually super casual, but some of them actually require coordinating ~50 people, some semblance of group composition, etc. The mounts are great, it's a lot of fun just finding reasons to whip around on the roller beetle or griffon between events and stuff. I love the art style and a lot of the zones in the game are beautiful, so just chasing meta-events in different zones and dicking around in the downtime between is fun to me. I have/had other games to sweat in, GW2 is my comfy game.
>>717633173
Race doesn't matter for anything important, just do what you think is cool. You can't change a character's race or profession though. The game really encourages making alts and it's very easy to level and gear them once you're playing the game at level 80 on one character. You can start each major story with any character no matter their prior story progress, so say you play core story on warrior but want to make a necro for Heart of Thorns you can (well, after getting the new char to 80).

>>717633276
theres still people and active discords

>>717633458
There is only one trait screen though and that's all you have in terms of character skill setup.
Also yes, the living story chapters being paid seems stupid in hindsight but it seems like they released a new bundle that includes all the LS up to EOD now? They should have always had that.

>>717633635
>>Race doesn't matter for anything important
yes it does, if you pick the green race you will quit because their zone is boring and kinda ugly
Honestly Charrs zone quality is a mile over the rest

>>717633458
Oh some other criticisms I forgot to mention

The personal stories are garbage, and it sucks that every 10 levels you have to go back to your capital and do these mindnumbing boring quests. I tried keeping up with them but the dialogue is awful and it's not engaging.

The expansion stories are fine but just like WoW they suffer from being extremely confusing and involving a clusterfuck of entities, groups and concepts that the game expects you to already know, when is a MMORPG going to create a button that lets you catch up and follow the main quest without already being invested in the franchise for 20 years?

Underwater combat is dogshit, clunky and shouldn't be in the game

Having no healer is an awful idea. I love playing healer and it sucks that this MMORPG doesn't let me heal. I think this game is great evidence that trying to subvert the holy trinity is unnecessary and end up making everything even more streamlined than just respecting the three archetypes.

Anyway that's all the problems I have with the game as someone that tapped casually into it for ~2 months, completed 3 expansions, messed around with some content and quit.

If this game had more streamlined lategame PvE capable of competing with WoW, didn't make endless piles of DLC (outside of the expansions), and let transmog weapons so that I can e.g. have greatsword skills with staff appearance, it'd be much better

>>717633806
Charr are the coolest but he will be stuck as a big furry with the ugliest armors for most of the leveling experience.

>>717633721
>There is only one trait screen though and that's all you have in terms of character skill setup
Unless they reworked it, when I played it that screen had several tabs.

During leveling there were like 4 tabs where you fed the "hero points" to unlock passives and utility skills.

When maxed those tabs become obsolete but new tabs open up to serve the same purpose.

It just doesn't feel good to look at it, and it's more confusing than it has to be. WoW's system is simple but effective. Thorough all of GW2 I felt like they were going way out of their way to avoid doing anything in the same way as WoW, and while some of it works a lot of it doesn't, the trait screen being a prime example of that.

>>717633867
I agree with the personal story past the first 30 levels being boring. The race specific story was good but when they merged it it became slop. Also it didn't use to lock you out of it every 10 levels so I don't understand why they made it worse.

Everyone agrees that underwater combat is shit, thats why they stopped putting it in since the first expansion.

There is a healer role but they're always double dipping as a boon provider with alacrity/quickness. Its just not needed in most of the open world content and the easy instance content.

Changing the weapon type and keeping the skills is a bad idea because the skill animations are locked to the weapon skills. You'd be swinging your bow like a greatsword and it'd look shit. Plus most weapons come in sets so if you want that visual but as another weapon just get that other weapon from the set.

>>717634025
I have to admit I haven't really manually leveled a character since they added the hero point system. I just boost it to 80 and then spam complete on all hero lines and never look at it again. Even on especs, I just run a hero point train and then just spam complete on the espec. You never have to look at that screen again once its filled up.

>>717605212 (OP)
The community in this game feels like it went from no one interacting. If I tried they'd only just jump a couple of times, then run off. But now it feels like you can just ask whatever in the chat and you're gonna get 50 people flocking to you to help you out.
Really nice development, makes the game feel a lot more alive than before.

What's stopping other bigger mmos from making mounts this good?

>>717633140
>you still "have" to go through the story normally anyway
no you don't lmao

>>717634923
nothing, in fact blizz copied 2 of GW2s mounts into WOW

>>717633529
>just mash 1 in between cooldowns, that'll make the game fun
or I could just play an actually fun game

>>717607034
So true but slopeaters gunna eat slop

>>717633173
race doesn't matter
necromancer is the easiest class in the game so its a decent class to start with but you probably wont be using it in the end game

in a sea of garbage, it's definitely the highest quality one left with no subscription fee

>>717635036
Necro has plenty of good builds no matter the game mode.

>>717633867
>>717633867
uh there's been healers since the first xpac came out and are a meta build for any group content. I don't wanna argue all your points but it seems like you some how missed a lot of things.

>>717634923
Why havent other games made mounts this good yet? Not even just MMOs. I have yet to find a single player game that does mounts like GW2 did. And I can't believe GW2 did this and then just have not made any relevant content for their arguably best mechanic.

>>717635215
Healing has existed since vanilla. It was just unneeded since vanilla content was so badly designed the best way to play it was just to spam dps.

>>717605212 (OP)
Good gameplay, mechanics and meta. TERRIBLE story, full of trannies, faggots, strong women and feminist garbage.

>>717635234
Also on another note. When Nintendo sued Palworld for infringing on their patent of gliding mounts from S/V (2022), all I could think of was the GW2 griffons since 2018.
Honestly fuck Nintendo.

>>717635234
Skyscales completely fucked up their ability to design content around the other mounts. But they did design Secrets of the Obscure almost entirely around skyscales.

>>717634583
It's a really bad system and at its worst during leveling. The system is so dogshit that from 1-80 you'll only unlock actives and passives that you will never ever equip, the game gives you nothing else. You will tunnel vision the good actives/passives in the first ~30 levels, then spend 30-80 without ever getting a good unlock.

>>717635697
Skyscales were honestly a mistake. Griffons were already perfect.

I do find it funny that WoW stole 2 things from GW2 and instantly made them better.

>>717634923
>Auric Basin
>Home.

>>717605212 (OP)
...and way worse than the first game

>>717632201
Because FFXIV released it's worse xpac to date with woke lemutt and the quality has gone down the shitter. So people are jumping ship and a lot of those people went to GW2.

Tangled Depths is the best map and all the plebs complaining that its too complicated are wrong. It's good because you actually have to learn the map instead of just clicking the waypoint and walk forward.
They still havent surpassed HoT map design.
The second best map is Draconis Mons.

>>717635808
They could've just added more mastery to the griffon. The biggest issue with griffon is trying to get somewhere high to hit jet speed. But the new xpac does a great job because the first waypoint you get is high up allowing you to zoom around the map on your griffon.

>>717636302
But thats what makes grifdon good. You don't just get a perfect spot immediately and have to find it with a springer. But since they added the air dismount for springers, it's already become much easier to get a dive spot.

>>717633867
Im not gonna defend the story, but I’ve only done it once and just use TP to friends to unlock maps on my alts
Everyone hates Underwater combat, but there’s only piece of content people still do that uses it. I wish they would remove Underwater fractal, but not enough to make me hate the game
Healing is in the game and almost any class can do it. It’s basically mandatory to bring one if you’re doing instanced combat. It’s not 2012 anymore

>>717634450
>I don't understand why they made it worse.
it's because people were botting through it hundreds of times a day to finish the first arc for black lion keys

>>717632201
I think the yearly expansion announcements are paying off more and more each year. GW2 fell off people's radar years ago and now they hear about a new expansion every year. One is easy to just shrug off but 3 in 3 years (4 in 4 counting EoD in Feb '22) probably gets people interested and makes them think it's more active than they thought.
>>717636193
100% agree. I love that the main "leveling up" you do in those maps is like actually your knowledge and navigational skills. I also really love the fact that they really did convey that sense of being lost in the fucking jungle starting with the incredible Verdant Brink. Some of the best map design in any game.

I've tried GW2 probably 5 times over the years, I could never find a class I actually enjoy sadly.

>>717636793
I have the same problem. I like the element class but i'm too much of a brainlet to use it at full power

>>717636652
It also has a good progression. First you have Verdant Brink, which is already crazy coming from vanilla, with all the seemingly impassable canyons and everything looking fucked up.
Then you get a breather with a comfy map with Auric Basin which also looks beautiful.
And then you get Tangled Depths, which is just a maze the size of an entire map.
HoT was truly the peak of gw2 quality.

>>717636879
The next elite spec they're making for ele is shaping up to be the brainlet spec where you only need to use 1 attunement.

>>717636879
elementalist is peak feelsbad because you're playing the goddamn piano to barely keep up with a Reaper or Dragonhunter just rolling their face across the keyboard

>>717636879
There are some pretty simple ele builds, and the new elite specialization for it in the upcoming expansion has a mechanic designed around ditching all but one attunement.

>>717634923
Reminds me of how the brute chopper from Halo 3 moves

>>717637039
How do you know the details on the new specs? I've just seen the teaser videos they showed. Someone datamining or what? I know there's shit up on the wiki but I have no idea where they're getting their info

>>717637419
they did a couple streams showing the details

>>717636793
None of the core professions feel great, imo.
Some of the Elite specs feel really good, but all of them get repetitive eventually.
Scrapper has been my favourite spec because everything blends together well and and you have some flexibility. I really wanted to like Holosmith, but I'm too brainlet to stay alive using it still.

>>717637419
They did a livestream for ele, revenant, and mechanist's elite specs today, and the others the past 2 fridays. They went over all the profession mechanics, skills and traits in these streams. You can find pics of all the stuff on the forums or reddit.

>>717605212 (OP)
tranny wars 2 will never be as good as wotlk wow, osrs, or even ffxiv

>>717637712
You're too late to schizo post it's almost at bump limit lil bro. you lost

>>717638087
bump limit is 500, retard

>>717637712
Still better than Wow

>>717605212 (OP)
>troon wars 2
hard pass

>>717638203
GW2 was doing fantasy mobility devices YEARS before WoW even dreamed of it.

I burned out levelling through the vanilla game, never got to the DLC. Zones are empty and soulless

>>717638203
I've actually bought gw2 and played through it back in 2012-2013. It was spewing tranny shit way before wow was talking about it.

>>717605212 (OP)
Guild Wars 2 has some of the best class kits in an MMO bar none, Engineer was pure mmokino. Too bad it fell into the same trap as FF14 in having an abysmal system for basic movement but thinking they were such hot shit with it that they threw parkour puzzles everywhere. Does have the best mount movement though, so much so that WoW dedicated an entire expansion to ripping off a single aspect of it (Dragonflight).

>>717638335
No one goes to the vanilla zones anymore because the expac zones are simply better.

>>717605212 (OP)
I played a bit of the trial but ill get into it proper when the Dragon Saga Collection goes on sale again.

>>717637712
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>>717605212 (OP)
i hope guild wars 3 brings back actual gameplay like guild wars 1 had, 2 sucks its literally "follow the zerg of idiots and autoattack boss" the game

Big tip for newer players, may need to be at 80 for this idk, but check LFG in the Central Tyria - Parties section for listings like "full home". There are a bunch of valuable gathering nodes you can buy for your homestead to loot every day. They're expensive as fuck but other people can loot it. Veterans with all the gathering nodes often open parties for people to come loot it every day. It's like 6 gold worth of various materials, and some of those mats are important for stuff like legendary accessories or skyscale collections. If you don't see an open party just keep an eye out, people open them all times of day but especially around daily reset. Bring spare gathering tools and a clear inventory, it's a lot of stuff (mostly materials that can be deposited with the button at the top of your inventory).

>>717626258
>nigga wants balance against pve mobs that cheat

LUL

I really liked end of dragons, really helped me finally put the game to rest. solid ending and I'm never playing it again

>>717609618
[baww]way just is superior

>>717640813
>veterans
whales

>>717605362
but streamers said its good :)

>>717642089
What streamers?

>>717633276
>Its not an MMO anymore
maybe because it never was? you dumb faggot, its an online rpg

>>717643923
the ones who make money off people watching them play Guild Wars 2

>>717644505
Give me names. I want to give them money!

Good game but the expansions get worse every time.

HoT - 9/10
PoF - 8.5/10
EoD - 8/10
SotO - 6.5/10
Janthir - 6/10

>>717633458
>micro-transaction dungeons that are not contained in the expansions
The game only had dungeons at launch and they are only in the base game. Even all of the fractals are free with the base game so literally what in the fuck are you talking about? If you mean Living World, then that is retarded. LW has just as much content as the expansions and is cheaper (besides LW2).
> buy them with in-game currency just grind for months goyim
Episodes are only like 80 gold each which you can get in like 2 hours

>>717642089
They're right it is good but it's a terrible streaming game.

>>717645746
JW is better than Eod and later. Spear changed the whole game and opened so many pve and pvp builds + w8 + new convergence CMs + map metas are the most popular in game atm.

>>717645961
wing 8 is fucking awful
>map metas in the latest expansion that give you stuff for a legendary of the new super-pushed weapon type are the most popular
yeah no shit retard

>>717645961
>JW
>map metas
??? The only map that even has a meta is the final map and it's unfinished dogshit. They launched an entire expansion without a single good meta. SotO's metas were much better. I'm not sure why people shit on the 3rd map. It sucked releasing 1/3 at a time but the whole map together is pretty good and it feels epic to go into the castle at the end.

>>717605212 (OP)
Does it still have the absolute shit personal story it had at launch?

no

>>717645961
I'm a GW2 shill but the JW meta-events kinda suck to be honest. Lowland Shores doesn't even have one, bog witch is an alright event chain but not enough. Syntri's meta is alright, not great but not terrible. Mistburned Barrens only has 3 event chains, and while I don't think they're as bad as the playerbase made them out to be they're not very good. Bava Nisos meta is pretty weak, I don't mind the Gorseval reuse but the meta trails off into a wet fart after that part. I don't care how if they're popular because people are pumping the associated legendaries. I like the look and feel of the maps but they really leave a lot to be desired in the event and meta-event department. Lowland Shores kinda does get a pass because it's actually active with other events and stuff going on.
>>717646112
>SotO's metas were much better. I'm not sure why people shit on the 3rd map. It sucked releasing 1/3 at a time but the whole map together is pretty good and it feels epic to go into the castle at the end.
Agreed. Honestly I rate the Eparch meta as one of the best in the game almost on that demon castle siege vibe alone. Definitely helps that it's one of the few open world events that functionally has a fail condition, feels tense and like you actually have to rally the troops.

>>717621092
>Heart of Thorns through LWS4
Why are you specifically leaving out Icebrood Saga?
Dizzlewood and Bjora are some very cool maps and I have yet to see any event in a MMO that has something comparable to being a roadie in a Heavy Metal concert.

>>717646813
I don't like the music etc but PSO2's old concerts definitely had some soul.
https://youtu.be/5h9TqNwPHqA

>>717646813
because Dragonstorm is an active insult, the masteries are generally total asscheeks, and the story sucks. Grothmar is cool, but Drizzlewood reminds me too much of WvW and Bjora is whatever. It's the very clear turning point from Anet at least kind of trying to phoning it in entirely because they want to be doing something else.

>>717646813
>>717646989
also Ascalon belongs to Ascalonians, make Charr hats again

>>717646813
not that guy but the common sentiment which I also share is that IBS was good on the first half and shit on the second, a trait curiously also applicable to SOTO and JW

>>717638110
be patient with guild troons, they're literally fucktarded on top of being trooned out

>>717605212 (OP)
Not a very high bar to clear if we're being honest.

>>717646582
the only issue with the Nayos metas is that the dragon boss and Eparch himself blow ass as fights.

>>717632201
it's a shitty viral marketing attempt that gaynet is doing and that mods allow because several mods are gaynet employees

>>717627330
>fish
requires paypigging for the shittiest cashgrabspansion of all time, totally not p2w though!

>>717647226
I will give EOD this: the story is awful but the actual content is pretty decent. The maps even remind me of HoT's at times.

>>717647070
I don't understand why Eparch is hated. It's pretty fun going get the buff and trying not to die... the fire in the room actually does a lot of damage. Every other meta boss is just move together. You can't really do that on Eparch since people want different buffs.

>>717646989
>Drizzlewood reminds me too much of WvW
I love this personally. It's really cool to me that there's an open world map with events and meta-event progression so different. Love how active it can feel especially the South meta. They need to play with how maps and meta-events function occasionally in my opinion.
>>717647070
>Eparch himself
Definitely. But I can only imagine how much more often it would fail if Eparch actually did anything but jiggle around and occasionally puke. I don't really mind the dragon personally.
>>717647151
>>717647226
Looks like one of the resident mindbroken schizos woke up. Imagine dedicating so much time to something that doesn't make you happy.

>>717646569
>too lazy to make the hand pale
was going to save but shan't bother