Why do people not ship TifaxCloud anymore?

>>717631984 (OP)
Demakeslop killed all interest in FF7 forever.

>>717631984 (OP)
Buy an ad

After starting remake today, I prefer to ship Tifa with myself, especially after modding her to put on +400 pounds.

Too busy shipping TifaXMe.

>>717631984 (OP)
>ship
Go back to Tumblr.

>>717633668
post pics
Make Cloud jacked as fuck too with swazi tattoos.
The best pairing is a jacked aryan chad with a 400 lb SSBBW.

>>717631984 (OP)
Yuffie mogged the two completely.

>>717631984 (OP)
because they're both built for BBC (big Brahmin cock)

>>717632089
This. Nobody cares anymore except for that 1 aerith schizo.

>>717631984 (OP)
Because 7 shipping is several decades old and largely contained to when the OG game was new.
Most of the Square compilation stuff already sort of laid that all to rest by establishing definitive relationships so there isn't much to talk about anymore.

Only people that care anymore are a minority of 40+ year olds who never let it go from the OG days and are very possibly mentally ill in several cases.

Now it's simply about "who's hotter/more goon-worthy", completely divorced from any kind of "ship" to any particular other character.

>>717633754
The clipping isn't great but fuck if I care. Apparently Rebirth actually fixes most of it with better mod tools, so i'll see if the game is worth pursuing.

>>717631984 (OP)
they do though

>>717631984 (OP)
Because they're canon now so there's no need to.

>>717631984 (OP)
I never played a single modern rpg final fantasy, not even ff15

>>717631984 (OP)
Same reason why 2b never gets posted, because shitskins will inevitably post their BBC propaganda.

>>717634613
>they're canon

they literally arent

>>717634819
Is that Squall IRL?
You're Quistis, you invite this guy to the secret place, and he tells you to go talk to a wall.

>>717631984 (OP)
>Why don't people do the thing that people absolutely still do
make a good thread, anon

>>717635007
nta, but is Advent Children not considered canon?
i'm not famliiar with what is and isn't considered canon, just saw that they're together in that and figured it was canon as a whole now

>>717631984 (OP)
All 14 or so of my headcanons all typically end with a Don Corneo harem

>>717635007
>aerithfag denying reality yet again
We're gonna drag this bullshit out AGAIN? You need to see the screenshot from Mideel AGAIN? This is the kind of shit Hitler talked about in Mein Kampf. Arguing with you is like squeezing jelly. It's pointless.

>>717635132
they are living together but they sleep in different rooms and are not a romantic couple.

>>717634819
Walt Jr. is that you?

>>717635193
huh?
they're literally together in Advent Children. is this just weird 7 fandom stuff at play here?
if Advent Children isn't canon, okay I get it, but if it is, that means they already said theyr'e a couple

>>717631984 (OP)
Because Yuffie is the new hotness.

>>717635193
AC isn't canon.
Anything that is not the OG or the Remake trilogy is not canon.

>>717631984 (OP)
Aerith is the perfect waifu. Thats why!

>>717631984 (OP)
Jessie x Me

>>717635410
>>717635380

>>717635340

where in advent children is it stated they are together?

>>717631984 (OP)
how good is rebirth compared to 15?

>>717635712
oh. i'm being shitposted
haha, you got me I guess.

>>717631984 (OP)
I ship Tifa with Javarius instead

>>717635340
Advent Children is canon. They were a couple in that
But the Remake series is sort of a meta sequel, so it doesn't necessaril result in Advent Children anymore. Granted, the Aerith+Cloud thing is out the window since she still dies in Rebirth, but there is no "Tifa and Cloud definitely end up together" anymore. That was the old result from OG to AC.

>>717636012
is there a video or something explaining the differences between og vii and the remakes?

>>717631984 (OP)
Zero chemistry. Tifa treated Cloud like fucking shit as a kid, ignoring him and hanging out with the other boys. Despite being neighbors, they did almost nothing together until Cloud left, only to ask him to be her knight in shining armor despite barely knowing anything about him and rarely hanging out.

Then when they reunite in Midgar, their interactions are strained and awkward, being as passive as possible despite Cloud acting nothing like he was a kid, then going along with his Kalm flashback delusions to not rock the boat. But despite that, she often beefs with him over minor shit anyway, KNOWING full well how fucked Cloud's mind clearly is.

Cloud himself also doesn't try at all, being an asshole at all times until far past the point of being understandable. His fused personality with Zack makes no sense, why would Zack's fun loving personality mixing with Cloud's quiet awkwardness = a distant asshole. Aerith has to do all the work to get him to do anything, and since Tifa is so passive and sometimes passive-aggressive, you get the chemistry of a nothing girl who was never really Cloud's friend going against a selfish aloof prick.

Things only get slightly better after Cloud becomes a retard and Tifa helps put his personality back together, but even that is ruined knowing Cloud continues to be aloof and noncommittal in AC. Not even the extended canon wants the ship.

>>717631984 (OP)
No real people cares Masato Kato's dogshit he made on a cheap substitute which built for obscene jokes since the very beginning.
Except illterate shiteaters like >>717635176 no one would consider anything happens on a sidebitch written by a side jobber has any kind of importance.

>>717631984 (OP)
Doesn't it make more sense Tifa and Barret are a thing?

>anything happens on a sidebitch written by a side jobber >>717636535
Hastily written by a side jobber in the last two months of 1996 precisely.

>>717636572
Only in a Jew's headcanon.

>>717636572
>>717635832
HELLO SAAR

>>717631984 (OP)
I'm a CloudxBarret kinda guy.

>>717631984 (OP)
>scene in OP's pic is actually a badass moment
>the combo moves at the end
>all for Tifa to wind up almost as broken as Cloud by the end except she has to deal with Cloud being schizo on top of it
This game is definitely too bloated but the parts true to FF7 are almost perfect in my opinion. It hit me in the feels seeing Cloud all over the place at the end but acting like all is well.

>>717636632
>>717636535

so Cloti was never canon, it was a lie made by incels?

>>717637760
I can't wait for more psycho Cloud in the 3rd game. I don't think the party members should have cared about him attacking the shinra soldiers with lethal force after Sephiroth possesses him. I was of the understanding that we were ALWAYS using lethal force against everything unless it was a specific battle the NPC is seen alive in a cutscene afterwards.

>>717638023
If it isn't canon that means Cloud has nobody after Aerith dies. Nobody wants that kind of fate for our guy.

>>717638023
wtf is cloti?

People finally understand the devs vision and dropped their crackship for the canon one

>>717638279
retarded shipping names from the mentally ill.
cloti is apparently tifa+cloud somehow, and clerith is aerith+cloud
it's as stupid as it sounds.

>>717638389
but that doesn't make sense. tifa and cloud were literally together in the 2000's cgi anime. why would they say people are making it up when the 7 writers literally made it?

Just said it was about shippers.
They're mentally ill, it doesn't have to make logical sense. Best to leave it be.

>>717631984 (OP)
too much porn. vanilla got boring.

>>717632089
>>717632126
>>717634082
>Flawless deep combat
>Great characters
>Great story
>Great art direction
>Great OST
>Waifus
>Good graphics
>Lots of content
>Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends
This is a 10/10 game

>>717638190
Same, but I think they just cared because he was a little too brutal for his usual self. It's not as significant since Cloud seems cold in Rebirth most of the time, but going off of the original game it'd be a stark contrast to him being like "let's mosey". I'm guessing Cloud has to sacrifice himself this time. Seems like the best way to put the series to rest once and for all.
>>717638464
Denial is a hell of a cope. They won't end up together because Cloud will die. And if by the off chance he makes it through, someone else will die. The "no promises" text at the end of Rebirth just gives me the feeling not everyone makes it out alive this time (not including Aerith). They have said the Remakes "link up" with AC (we've already seen Deepground and one of the Sephiroths around is the one from end of AC) so I'm guessing instead of seeing Red XIII with his kids at the end we get a new look at how the people survived and all that. Probably ends with a white and black feather floating on the screen or falling into the lifestream.

>>717639037
Who's the guy in the back? I sure hope I can get him to join my party.

>>717635809
Rebirth is best FF since X and thats a high bar, you to play Intergrade before though

>>717639078
>Denial
?
i have no damn clue what you're talking about anon. i just said it makes no sense since that movie showed tehm as a couple already?

>>717631984 (OP)
Remake/rebirth reminded everyone that Aerith was the true love interest of FF7

>>717638190
When Cloud berates everyone in the temple where they relieve their painful memories I felt that, the writing in this is pure kino

>>717639242
I meant Aerith fags are in massive denial. They will tell themselves anything despite objective truths in front of them.
>>717639296
It reminded everyone she's whore. She wanted Zack and then tries to hop on Cloud despite Tifa being there and already trying to set up shop. She's a homewrecker at best, lol.

>>717631984 (OP)
About to play the FF7 Remake.

What's everyone's favorite nude mod?

>>717639845
I'm in a weird place where I actively hate nude mods, because I thought the game being on PC would result in some interesting gameplay alteration mods or something.
nope. all nude mods or gooner mods.

>>717639154
This. It has similar similar vibes to X (Aerith even does a sending dance) and captures the fantasy-like atmosphere (despite some woke bullshit) for the most part. X was clearly a milestone/meaningful entry so it's also why I think Cloud bites it at the end. Tidus did and people love that ending so why not repeat it but with the other beloved FF game?

>>717631984 (OP)
Remake and Rebirth deeped Clouds relationship with Aerith significantly compared to the original game.
That's mostly why.

>Tifa loves BBC
>Aerith loves BBC
>Yuffie loves BBC
>Scarlet loves BBC

Is there anyone that doesn’t love BBC?

>>717640021
I'd imagine because as beloved as 10 was, 7 is literally the most beloved and successful FF Square ever made?

>>717640029
>Aerith
Isn't she still aggressive horny for Zach or whatever his name is. And she's using Cloud to try and replace him?

>>717638023
>cloti
cloti happens when coombrains trying to pretend their smooth pea brains are somewhat functional,
Coombrains without pretending like picrel, in the contrary, is the only proper way to "like" Nomura's frankenstein created out of his nasty fap materials (since 1993), which is planned to be used to attract cultureless(s) since the very beginning.

>>717639154
This board will see the endlessly at a post like this but you're 100% right.
I actually think Rebirth is light-years better than X, actually.
Rebirth was the first time since X that I actually felt like I played a Final Fantasy game.

>>717640108
>Is there anyone that doesn’t love BBC?
Not your mom, that's for sure.

>717640156
what the schizo is this post talking about? and why are they responding to themselves?

>>717631984 (OP)
>shipping
FUCK OFF WITH THIS GAY ASS TUMBLR SHIT
they need to make a board for these fucking special ed anime children so they can all group jerk off together to their ai generated slop holy fuck I have tranime fatigue

>one game remade, split into 3 full price games
Should have been a failure right there but consumers and waifu niggers will always crack open their wallets for japslop

>>717640143
In Rebirth it seemed like she was deeply torn on who she actually cared for.
In the original she flirted with Cloud but she stayed true to Zach. In Rebirth she heavily acts like she has a deep thing for Cloud but she holds back because she knows that she's not going to be around for the whole journey.
She had the same premonition in the original too but she never seemed as affectionate.

It's no shit a 40+ year old roastie that is known to hop in ff7 threads (or create shipping specific ones), and has a weird obsession with aerith+cloud for some reason. they've been ignoring the actual games and media for ages at this point to push that shit

>>717640118
True, but they can't repeat the ending, as perfect as it was. They really put themselves into a corner because it'll hard and probably damn near impossible to make a better ending. That's also why I think someone dies, the shock value and actual change in plot will be a draw.
>>717640167
I love X for different reasons but Rebirth definitely is up in my favorite FF games for sure. I saw 14 and 15 and they just seemed eh. I'm sure they are decent but they didn't seem like they'd be all that.

>>717640421
>True, but they can't repeat the ending
Yeah they can, mostly. Context and people being mroe "at peace" and not blaming themselves.
But they can still mostly end the same way.
For it all being a meta sequel, they haven't actually been very aggressive in making this drastically different. It's still largely the same story, just with slightly different context.

>>717631984 (OP)
You kidding? Tifafags went on a complete meltdown after the Game awards trailer, where they mostly depict the Aerith GS date. If anything shipperfags are the only ones keeping this shit afloat, and most of Aerithfags will have they turn and have a meltdown if she doesn’t get to live, which is the most likely scenario.

>>717640881
anon, shipper shit is terminally online bullshit, largely tumblr shit that is unfortunatly here as well because /v/ schizos and shit. majority of people could not give less a fuck.

>>717640378
>In the original she flirted with Cloud but she stayed true to Zach.
Nah

src of >>717641456
AI is only used to make it illiterate-friendly.

roastie alert

>>717631984 (OP)

Because Remake/Rebirth ruined all three central girls.

Aeirth has way too much agency and understanding of what is generally going on (including further ties to Zack which sours everything), Tifa still lies to your face only this time the devs are absolutely transfixed on her being the canonical love interest this time so it's boring and Yuffie almost starts a major continental war over her chunni delusions and is no longer the snarky deadpan fun character everyone remembers her as.

They butchered the IP.

Tifa's tastes are more... peculiar...

>>717641662
They probably figured they had to add drama in order to make things as serious as they seemed to be. Yeah, it was funny for Cloud to tell Yuffie to stfu, but after traveling with her for awhile (presumably doing Wutai on the 2nd disc) it would make more sense for Cloud to be somewhat sympathetic, at least in my eyes. Aerith...yeah, they kind of fucked her up but with "who" her character is it was going to be a clusterfuck. And Tifa actually makes sense to me. She knows Cloud has more than just mako degradation by the end of Remake so tiptoeing around the one guy who might be able to make a difference and was a childhood "friend" seems somewhat reasonable, albeit female thinking. Keep your mouth shut in hopes of things getting better or possibly him finding out the truth on his own.

>>717631984 (OP)
Everyone was too put off by the extended crossdressing and catcalling scene where they make you walk through town in drag and then Cloud gets all flirty when people bring it up later what the HELL was going on there

>>717634161
It seems desaturated.

>>717631984 (OP)
The two have a connection based on two things. Their trauma bond and being the only few people alive from the Nibelheim incident. (I think Zangan is around somewhere too) Any semblance of romance is disingenuous and simply desperation from Tifa to cling onto someone closely related to that trauma. Imagine forming a relationship with someone like that. It's likely to fail in the long run when their main connection is based on something horrific rather than genuine affection. Trauma doesn't make people all of a sudden compatible. It only prolongs the illusion in their heads that they should be together. With all that said, Tifa is boring af outside her booba. She's the type of girl you get tired of real quickly, no matter how pretty she is. Doesn't matter if she's a childhood "friend" either. Based on how she talks to cloud, she's most likely to nag you to death too.

Why do incels involve themselves in "shipping" but people that have relationships or have been in a relationship never do?

>>717631984 (OP)
I think people are just tired of Final Fantasy VII. Myself included.

>>717641456
The AI seems pretty off the mark. Because she clearly was in love with Zack.

>>717631984 (OP)
that's cuz Yuffie stole the show.
she's literally the main character of Rebirth.

Aerithfags are fucking delusional LMAO

Can I get into FF without playing every single game?
Was planning to start with FF 7 remake, then play Rebirth.

Aeris is cuter in remake and they made Tifa Asian for some reason.

>>717647125
Because most FF7 players are incels and incels prefer asian women

>>717646879
I don't like how she wears all that clothing.
She should have a bubblebath and then just wear gradually dissolving soap bubbles instead. For the whole game.

>>717647405
That's what yuffie is for she's even underage and acts infantile which ticks their bones too

>>717647405
You need to look at some charts.
Asian women are insanely preferred in most cases.

>>717647613
yes. in most cases of incels

>>717647717
>incel incel!
It's not the year you think it is.

>>717631984 (OP)
Demake killed both of the big ships.

>>717647405
Aerith is white though, tifafags only like tifa for her tits but they go through insane mental gymnastics instead of admitting it

>>717646715
>she clearly was in love with Zack.
Thanks for proving once again even a dumb AI is still miles more functional than the smooth pea inside any illterate subhumans aka clotis' skull.

Tifa changing Wheelchair Cloud's pants when he shits himself. He babbles incoherently. Tifa just cries in response saying I'm sorry.

>>717648345
GO TO THE BATHROOM CLOUD
YOU'RE SHITTING YOURSELF

>>717647956
I liked OG tifa because the childhood friend stuff but she used to have LIGHT BROWN hair not dark brown and she was clearly whiter in her OG portraits. She unironically looks Italian here not japanese, advent children ruined everything

>>717634108
I feel the opposite happened, no? It was more definitive when it was just ff7. even if you didnt get the scene where they spend the night together, it still felt like tifa was the definitive romantic interest in the end. When they added all the side story and advent children stuff is when you could see that they pussied out of a definitive romantic interest and turned it into the shonen will they wont they trope, with both the girls. Idk about the recent shit though other than remake but it seems like they're still too pussy to even give us the decision to make it definitive with who we choose.

>>717648431
>She unironically looks Italian
thank god my parents didnt entertain themselves by holding me at the ankles and slamming my head into the wall

>>717631984 (OP)
demake destroyed both characters to me, they were cringy as fuck.

the true friction lies in the fact that deep down, tifafags know that the only reason she won is because aerith died, and they will forever be bitter about that

>>717631984 (OP)
Anyone else think Tifa and Cloud are an extremely boring couple? Cloud used to have a crush on Tifa but between spending years away from his town and getting his brain poisoned by radiation he was way too out of it to continue feeling the same about Tifa. And Tifa just randomly inexplicably has always loved Cloud even though they don't spend any meaningful time together until they reunite as adults. And even then Tifa's personality is simply that she loves Cloud because she just HAS to let you know she loves Cloud. Even Yuna from Final Fantasy X had a character arc showing how she blossomed into loving Tidus. Tifa is just a never ending spam of....

Must Love Cloud
Must Love Cloud
Must Love Cloud

I've seen robots with more personality than t his soulless doll of a woman. It actually makes me see Tifa as fucking annoying. Makes me wish that she died when Sephiroth killed her father and slashed her waist.

I genuinely feel no chemistry between Cloud and Tifa. But it wouldn't be so bad if Tifa wasn't an Eternal Robot whose programming is Must Love Cloud. I don't fault Cloud too much for the blandness loving Tifa nonsense, Aerith was killed off in front of him so Tifa is his backup pussy who readily throws herself at him and since she looks decent from Cloud's point of view it's like "Meh why not?" But I was never convinced that Cloud was attracted to this empty headed walking boobs as an adult. Tifa has no personality and it makes her annoying.

>>717639037
It's an Ubislop game at a time when people are already sick and tired of the Ubislop checklist formula. That by itself already takes away 3 points from the game.

In the original I thought Tifa said all of the people of Nibelheim died and she and Cloud are the only survivors. In the remake she said there was another survivor that came to her bar. Which is it?

I like the one where Tifa gets railed in the club bathroom, you know she is the type of a girl who would do exactly that.

>>717649019
Meanwhile in ATLUS-land...
>spend 5 hrs walking through a town to get good-boy points
>spend another 5 hours grinding a dungeon
>rinse and repeat

Atlus bloat is much worse than Square bloat.

WMAF makes browns and asians seethe to no end. Even to this post there will be seething freaks saying the blonde haired blue eyes guy from Nibelheim isn’t white.

>>717636483
Thank you. Yeah Tifa is largely an enabler of Cloud behaving rather terribly. And while its not his fault by the time Cloud fixes his memory the game is kind of already over. Cloud's bonding with Tifa as his natural self is kind of hollow. And it doesn't help that even in the original game they can't help themselves but show Cloud reaching for Aerith's hand in the final CG sequence until it later transforms into Tifa's hand. Really goes to show that Tifa is nothing more than a rebound pussy that Cloud got with strictly because he has no choice.

Given how many bad things happened to Cloud I don't think Cloud has a normal biology anymore. His testosterone, his virility, his raw primal instincts, etc. All of it is damaged. Doesn't help that Cloud held the record for having the most advanced mako poisoning ever among all of humanity. There is no way that Cloud is normal anymore. And we can see that in Advent Children, Cloud and Tifa can't reproduce anymore so they adopt some random bastard that no one cares about because Cloud's sperm doesn't work anymore. And while its explained Cloud gets better during the ending of the movie it still rings hollow. We see Cloud during Dirge of Cerberus and seems as emotionally numb as usual and no word that he and Tifa's relationship has improved (on the other hand we heard Cid's relationship with Shera did get better). It just feels like Cloud is too broken, scarred, and damaged to ever function in a relationship and Tifa blandly loves him because she's written too even though Cloud being an isolated distant bordering on emotionally abusive guy would never help a relationship and you have to consider he's been like this for multiple years after the original game ended.

This romance is terrible.

>>717632089
FPBP
No one gives a fuck what happens to these braindead tranime multiverse clones.

>>717649384
Why should it make browns seethe?
They have no business with either.

>>717638190
They are. Remember the Submarine mission you are given the option to either kill or take the Shinra Troopers prisoner. If you fight them you officially kill them because Cloud and co. are international terrorists.

The characters in FF7 are big time serial killers. The only characters who don't get killed despite fighting Cloud are those that have plot hax like the Turks and I hate how the Turks survived every single fight because those mass murderers deserved to be killed off.

Cloud owes Tifa a relationship and no less than 4 children...

>>717644758
>With all that said, Tifa is boring af outside her booba.

Thank you THIS. Holy hell Tifa is boring as sin. She's like Kairi from Kingdom Hearts another Tetsuya Nomura designed character. Both of these skanks are outright boring. Tifa really doesn't have anything independent to herself.

Tifa's existence is all about living for Cloud's benefit in fact she openly said so in the original game during the Mideel sequence when she finds Cloud with the mako poison. Tifa directly says she doesn't care about the world but only Cloud. That's where her character begins and ends. It reminds me of that scene from the Eddie Murphy movie Coming To America where Eddie Murphy's character meets a woman whose existence is to only love him and he found that boring and unimpressive. That's Tifa.

Tifa is good for a masturbation session when you are young, dumb, and full of cum but sooner or later you will get bored because personality does matter.

>>717645790
Square Enix said that there's more plans for new FF7 media after the remake's third part.

>>717650217
>>717648995
>loyal = boring
I for one don't want whores in my games.

>>717649097
none of the compilation shit is canon. demake is nothing but dogshit writing and plotholes.
-No Yuffie never went to midgar during the plate fall and fought "Nero" from DoC.
-She never had a best friend called "Sonon" who was killed by DoC cringelords
-There is no deep ground
-Shinra did not blow up the firts mako reator. Avalanch did.
-The plate drop was not a slow Evacuation over several hours during which time the party fucked around playing therapist for irrelevant faggot ghosts. It was a sudden and devastating drop that killed almost everyone.
-Gackt is a faggot and is not part of the FF7 world
-Jenova cell degradation is not a thing
-Zack did not fall through the church and copy the same goddamn meeting interaction that Cloud had. What lazy dog shit writing.
-Zack did not have a giga-Zack who gave him the buster sword. What lazy dog shit writing.

>>717631984 (OP)
According to who? Some shitposters?

>>717650313

>>717650315
Tifa's problem as a character is that she has no reason to exist besides being Cloud's Fuck Doll. And about her loyalty the way its framed Tifa's loyalty is too exaggerated even for a franchise titled Final Fantasy. Seriously Tifa is loyal for life to a man whom she was never close to by her own admittance whom she didn't truly get to meet until they were adults and even then he was under a delusion so that means Tifa only got to bond with Cloud's natural personality for a very short amount of time. And yet she was loyal for twenty years? Come on.

And again Tifa is merely Cloud's Fuck Doll. I can say Aerith is snarky and has interests besides dick like her dilemma over being the final Cetra. Yuffie is an optional character in the original game and she has her own ambition she loves material and the power it gives and to boost that effect she wants to help her fallen nation.

Tifa is the mandatory main girl after Aeirth is killed off and what does she bring to the table? She only exists to be supportive to Cloud. That is not interesting.

>>717650217
>Murphy's character meets a woman whose existence is to only love him and he found that boring and unimpressive. That's Tifa.

That's literally the perfect woman though. How is that boring? Cloud would be fucking Cid if he wants someone interesting. Tifa is nice because no matter what happens to Cloud, no matter what everyone thinks of him, Tifa will always be there for him. Tifa is kind of like a slice of God. Would you call God boring for endlessly loving you? Didn't think so.

>>717650562
If we're talking about the real FF7 here., you're so wrong. did you even play it? Tifa has history with everything in the plot.
Shinra, Soldier, Mako, The Planet, Neblheim, Sephiroth.

>Tifa's loyalty is too exaggerated
Cloud is all she has from left her home.

Tifa cares about the planet more than cloud, Tifas village was burned too, Tifas dad and everyone she cared about was killed by Sephiroth. She has more motivation to stop him than Cloud does.

>>717631984 (OP)
"Shipping" doesn't matter. It doesn't change the story. It doesn't change the characters. The characters will like who they like. No amount of "shipping" will change that. "Preferences" have zero impact on what the story is. Preferences have zero impact on who the characters are.

>>717648091
You seem extremely mentally ill.
Why are you so invested in thinking she solely wants to fuck Cloud?
You do realize she's a video game character and is never going to have sex with you. Nor are you the video game character cloud.

>>717631984 (OP)
Because they made Tifa waaaay too asian looking in the remake

>>717649019
At most it takes 0.5 points, only Witcher 3 and BG3 and Bethesda games arent Ubislop, Ghost of Tsushima and nu Zelda and every other open world game are Ubislop, Rebirth is above all other Ubislop open worlds

>>717649097
In the original is her Martial Arts teacher Zagan. Its implied she travels the world with him doing humanitarian missions etc until meeting up with Avalanche and opening the bar.

>>717649546
I always looked at it as platonic with some fucking on the side. To be honest I don't think Cloud lived much longer after the end of the OG game. He is now the strongest person on the planet, and he's Jenovatized.

The few options are:
He turns into a big bad goes crazy.
He crystalizes himself like the original Cetra(maybe named Jenova) after defeating the calamity from the skies.
Kills himself.
Unjenova's himself, going back to a weak human.

I think the crystalization is the only true option though. Jenova is functionally a parasitic life stream from another planet. Once an organism infected by it dies, the returing alt life stream energy parasitizes the planets life stream and feeds those powers back to the physical entities still alive. I bet if all the living pieces die it can be born.
So thats why Jenova is found still alive, encased in rock. Thats why holy that Sephiroth is guarding looks like the stuff around Jenova. Thats why Holy is the special materia that does "nothing," its inert and has no power to steal.

So yea, Cloud is fucked. Tifa is a good friend whos along for the ride and they're kinda playing pretend couple and fucking maybe, cause Cloud is going to bite the dust.

The OG game pushed Aerith so hard that I can't really fathom supporting Cloti without it feeling weird.
>Spend the entire game competing against Aerith who have Cloud at her beck and call
>She fucking dies, and now you have to take care of Cloud's broken ass
>He get better, and you both smash before the fight against Selphi
>Saves that fucker from falling into lava
>Mf declares at the last second that he wants to be with Aerith in the afterlife.

>>717651663
>I don't think Cloud lived much longer after the end of the OG game
>So yea, Cloud is fucked
there's no reason to think this. it's your headcanon.

I want post apocalyptic shit to happen carried out by Rufus after he survives the Diamond weapon and goes insane, finally ruling the world with "Fear instead of money" like he promised he would.
Rufus should actually be the final boss of the world even if FF7 ended with Sephiroth.
Jenova is a cosmic horror and those who know about it will constantly seek it's power and try to control it.
Cloud should lose everyone close to him and have to fight some kind of jenova/rufus fusion creature at world's end.
Maybe it doesn't happen right away.
Maybe there are a couple of decades of "peace" after the end of the OG game but the seed is planted in Rufus to snap and bring everything around him to heel.

>>717631984 (OP)
OG players do but you can't really deny that Nomura is pushing the Aerith train hard in remake. And with time ghosts and shit, she's probably coming back in part 3. I doubt she'll be off screen more than the first few hours

>>717651663
>>717652235
wow you people are writing terrible fanfiction garbage to ruin the plot and core messaging almost as badly as nomura.

>>717651663
>Tifa is a good friend

>>717652064
please explain how they are going to defeat the remaining Jenova cells in Cloud and all the Shinra soldiers and the large amount of life stream energy from Jenova(rebirth/safer seph) and Sephiroth?

>>717652368
Fuck you.
Rufus would be an awesome world ender.
FF7 is a cosmic horror.
Humans don't win in the long run.
There are no humans in 500 years.
That's canon.
There has to be a wipe-out event after the game.

>>717650420
This is pretty legit. Advent Children is pretty lame too

>>717652432
You literally can't get rid of Jenova.
It's lovecraftian shit.
All you can do is buy a little time.

>>717652476
>500 years
Proof or fuck off

>>717650420
>Zack did not have a giga-Zack who gave him the buster sword. What lazy dog shit writing.
kek I always thought that one was really strange. because you still wonder where the sword came from.

>>717652432
they don't need to.
The Omnislash segment at the end of FF7 was symbolic of cloud winning out over jenova and Sephiroths influence.
Sephiroth is dead and Jenova is just a powerless severed head at the bottom of the crator.

When you get a blood transfusion It doesn't matter what happens to the person who you got it from. Cells don't mean shit.

>>717652628
Humans don't exist in 500 years.
Something wiped them out between the end of the game and the epilogue FMV.

>>717631984 (OP)
op, trying to talk about final fantasy on /v/ is nearly impossible. not worth the headache. i say this as a huge fan btw

>>717648995
tldr but I always took it as just simple childish tier writing for feels. Its a male fantasy that some childhood crush actually always loved them and exists solely for that purpose which Tifa is. The love triangle though is a huge part of the appeal of FF7 and Square would be wise to make sure to never fuck this up.

>>717652675
no, midgar doesn't exist 500 years from the ending.

>>717652623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZfhP7boHf4

A dead world where only nanaki and his children remain.

>>717652712
There are no humans.
This world becoming FFX is a pipe dream.

>>717651831
>Mf declares at the last second that he wants to be with Aerith in the afterlife.
That scene wasn't about romance. It was about Cloud realizing what happens to people after they die. They return to the planet (lifestream). They're never truly gone. It's a scene that reinforces the game's themes about life and death. It wasn't about Cloud romantically seeking Aerith.

>>717652476
Yeah rufus should turn into mega-devil-jenova-rufus and also merge with the shinra tower top.. with pieces of midgar floating all around him.
then like.. uh.. cloud should transform into super cloud and fly up there to fight him.

You gay faggot LOL. Why the hell would Jenova merge with rufus? he doesn't even have any relation or jenova cells.
all the end of the game shows is that Red13 is alive, found another member of his race to procreate with. and old midgar was abandoned. showing that humanity had learned their less an are no longer killing the planet with midgar.
if everyone had been wipes out, Red and his kids would not be there.

>>717652536
Yea thats why I don't think its headcannon to think Cloud is fucked. Jenova just doesn't have a main host atm. It took 5 years for Seph infected by Jenova to semicontrol drift his neardead upper torso through the lifestream to the northern crater and to learn to use it as a medium. It took that long before he could take control of this guy are sick to break Jenova out of the Shinra tower.
And he was strong but still humanish And Jenova was a 5000 year old statue with little movement or power. People don't even realize Jenova was farming you for lifestream energy by leveling up puppets and then throwing them at you to kill with LIFE/DEATH/BIRTH or w/e.

Now with full powered up Jenova rebirth dead, Cloud is going to be under control in like 2 years. Or one of the 1ST CLASS Soldiers. There might even be a few.

>>717652235
>>717652921
Pic of anons fanfic vision.

>>717631984 (OP)
>"here's your Tifa"
>some Asian chick that looks nothing like my Tifa

>>717652675
>there are no humans in the brief limited shot shown
>therefore they do not exist
LOL anon lacks object-permanence.

>>717653081
and acts nothing like tifa, just whines 24/7 with the worst fucking over-dramatic acting ever.

>>717652921
No, YOU made it lame and gay with all of that stupid shit. He doesn't need a connection he's the president of Shinra and it's a powerful entity. Rufus is not a good guy. Getting his ass almost toasted in the shinra tower doesn't make him a nice guy like AC tried to present. He's going to take a minute to regroup and continue his vision of world domination. He's not going to just abandon whatever gives him power. If he thinks injecting J cells and going full William Birkin with god-like powers, he's probably going to do that.

See? not fucking lame like the shit you just typed.
>>717653058
Fuck you nigger.

>>717652628
Thats not true for Jenova. Jenova is an ancient infected by the calamity from the skies that caused the northern crater. A meteor crashed and when the ancients showed up to heal the land they were infected by something that started memory and person swaping hosts and showing back up as people who died and others went missing.

You might be right about Omni severing Jenova's control over Sephiroth though.

>>717631984 (OP)
I pair her with [FF7 protagonist named after myself].
Dont play current year FF slop.

>>717653304
People with Jenova cells were unaffected for years until Sephiroth took himself and jenovas head directly into the lifestream at the planets core.
Since Sephiroth is gone and all the pieces of jenova (besides the head) were destroyed by clouds party. Jenova is weak and can't do much. least of all possess cloud when it couldn't even do that successfully when it had sephiroth and much more power.

>>717652969
Cloud got his body healed from all Jenova Cells at the end of Advent Children. The Planet essentially developed an immunity to Jenova after thousands of years of dealing with that disease alien. The purification water Cloud drank at the end of Advent Children got rid of the Geo Stigma disease which was caused by Jenova Cells.

The only character who has not drank from that special purification water is Lucretia who is too busy being frozen in crystal. She's the last organism in the planet that has Jenova Cells. Everyone else got purified from the effects that Jenova Cells cause. Even Genesis got his rotting degrading body healed. And any other Jenova hosts like Angeal got killed off. And in some cases like Zack his body and will is so strong the Jenova Cells got digested and eliminated naturally.

The only living sample of Jenova Cells are with Lucreatia. Once Lucretia is killed or she drinks the purified water the planet makes Jenova is permanently destroyed.

>>717631984 (OP)
Huh?

FF7 world is doomed
It's a cosmic horror
Don't take it up with me take it up with HP Lovecraft

>>717631984 (OP)
Femboy Cloud owns my cock

>>717650315
>Nomura wants to make illterates believe that his secondhanded fap material which smells like his own 1993 cumstains is totally not a whore and then laughing at these retards
umm based?

>>717654056
>Huh?

>>717653665
oh yeah and Jenovas head got blown out of the planets core by Holy. it's just sitting in in the upper crator without access to the lifestream.

>>717654078
>It's a cosmic horror
So is every kirby game by then end but the planet/planets still get saved,

>>717654197
repurposed assets into something likeable and it works oh my god what a fucking sin.

>>717654429
It doesn't get saved here though.
Only time can be bought, not salvation.

>>717653665
Except the times it did like the black materia. Jenova and Sephiroth seperated right before he turned into that angel thingy. You dont exactly get the chance to destroy the body. It took 20+ years for Jenova with little life stream presence to drive Sephiroth insane and take him over and turn him to her goals with a complete misunderstanding of who he was. But it only took 5 years to rewrite him completely with himself in the controller seat of her plans once her head was in the lifestream.
AC isnt cannon, only the OG game.

>>717654525
No proof. only proof to the contrary.
You see Nanki.. Which is proof that Holy did not kill the planets inhabitants and the party lived on. (The most desperate claims are that it "only killed humans" but then it would target the Highwind, it would crash an Nanaki would be dead.)
It also shows that things on the ground still survived since Nanki met another of his species to procreate with.

>>717654468
>implying this cheap substitute is ever anything else than a obscene gag factor in real peoples eyes.

>>717653058
kek.

>>717655038
I think that apocalypse theory is only popular with retards who didn't realize how much later the final scene takes place. It's not showing an apocalypse, it's showing a world where the city of mako has no place because mako is not being used anymore

>>717654197
What am I looking at here?
some sad porn game for japanese incels that nomura played and allegedly stole the design from?

>>717655038
Holy doesn't stop the meteor. Aerith, or the party or everyones actions on the whole convinces the lifestream itself to take action. She might even have controlled it.

>>717655038
The endtimes event doesn't necessarily need to happen any time soon just between the end of the OG game and the 500 year marker and it doesn't need to even involve Holy.
You can't get rid of Jenova.
Also there is the possibility that Jenova isn't the only thing out there capable of fucking the planet's shit up.
If Jenova fell why couldn't something else?
Jenova isn't really "gone" anyway though.
If animals and nanaki's kind remain what does that change? humans are still gone, there are no new machines, no new towns, no new cities.

>>717655121
You people are fucking dicks. You know that wasn't the idea I was going for. You're just laughing joking cunts.

>>717655302
I didn't say it does.
based on some text people claimed that holy would also kill everyone and that that's what you see in the ending (pretty shit trade off for something that doesn't even stop meteor). Anyway they are obviously wrong.

>>717655469
Nobody said Holy would kill anybody.

>>717655253
I mean, the planet did just spend a bunch of life stream energy to stop meteor. Weapons whole purpose is to kill living beings to return life stream energy in a pinch. Now the life stream doesnt just flow like a natural river, its gained the ability to use its streams like limbs.

>>717655469
Not that Holy would kill everyone. The lifestream would decide to kill humans. It could either create a bunch of weapons and attack. Or it could just block humans from getting more energy and every baby would never form a zygote and everyone would die in a generation.

FF7fags = WH40Kfags = BG3fags = TTRPGfags = fatigue

who else

>>717655519
Yes they did. There's some text in the game from Bugenhagen that says that Holy "might" perceive the planets inhabitants as a threat to the planet.
and it's the entire basis for the "everyone dies anyway" theory.

>>717650420
Impressive cope.

>>717655632
Deltarunefags as well. They are close on hitting autism FF7 shipping levels.

>>717655632
niggers
jeets
jews

>>717655614
>The lifestream would decide to kill humans
Well that's fucking stupid the lifestream is being channeled by Aerith who does not want to kill humans. it only targets meteor.

>>717655662
You're getting holy and the life stream/planet mixed up. Holy is the clear materia that begins to glow and grow when Aerith dies and reaches the lifestream, which is what the party is fighting to free when they attack Jenova/Sephiroth in the northern crater, because it has the effect of nullifying the black materia, though its too late.

>>717655782
Midgar being destroyed and reclaimed, not just abandoned implies it didnt stop there. Not that it totally implies it attacked everyone, but that mako reactors probably don't exist after that day.

>>717631984 (OP)
Tifa's tits. WHEW! Still a nice rack.

>>717650420
>2025
>still crying about the based remake series
top kek

>>717655832
No I'm not, your are.
Bugenhagen says that Holy is the ultimate defense against threats to the Planet. When he says it may perceive us as a threat. he's talking about Holy.

Absolutly zero reason to think that Arith would use the lifestream to kill people or that the lifestream would just suddenly start killing people on its own after all these years. those "people" make up the fucking lifestream.

im cloud and tifa is mine.

>>717655925
midgar was destroyed. did you even whatch the ending FMV? Meteor doesn't land but it still fucks up midgar beyond repair.

The least realistic thing in FF7 is a girl that has looks like Tifa being a virgin at 19. No way she wasnt being BOMBARDED with offers from men for the last 5 years.

>>717656040
It’s been 5 years and many are not even beginning to go beyond denial/anger yet. Long road ahead.

>>717656234
She was bombarded by men and she rejected them all for Cloud. Modern hypergamy doesnt exist in ff7 and didnt really exist in 1997 the same way it does today.

>>717656241
>denial
most of these things literally could not happen due to plot holes and conflicting with the OG canon.

>>717656067
No Bugenhagen is interpreting for the ancients, who sacrificed themselves for the planet and think thats a fine thing to do. He mentions that the aggragate ancient consiousness in the lifestream is deciding on whether or not to use the weapons to gather life energy to survive the attack. But also that Aerith DID succede in calling Holy and that they are waiting and watching to see what happens.
I dont think that if Aerith was in control on it when it fought off meteor anything was attacked, but if it was the ancients I think they might have attacked the reactors at least. And they might have killed some humans to refill the lifestream.
Either way humans aren't proliferating at any kind of technological level 500 years into the future and 300,000 tons of steel is just sitting rotting in a field somewhere.

>>717656332
all women are hypergamous

>>717631984 (OP)
It's still a popular ship isn't it?

>>717656359
>I think they might have attacked the reactors at least
meteor already fucked them up. either way midgar was fucked beyond repair.

>>717631984 (OP)
They do, you're just retarded

>>717634819
Tendies are the ones behind bbc since 2b is a popular non Nintendo waifu

>>717635380
This. Yuffie got huge buff even after censorship.

>>717655268
Including nuTifa's chinkface ( and pubes: https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1753183592359.png ), anything this cheap substitute canonically has came from Nomura's nasty fap materials
https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1753181266372.jpg

>picrel
https://files.catbox.moe/u6dput.mp4

>>717656441
My point is the planet just used like lifestream like blood magic to physically stop a celestial body. I see no scenario where the lifestream, with Aeriths knowledge added doesnt at least fuckup the mako reactors still functioning.
Thats most of the problem and why she had to die. She had to fulfill the Holy contract, and she needed to add her soul to the collective to inform the planet on current events.

>>717656350
its a new verse, chud

>>717656506
don't know about the new face (7R looks so punchable and strange I fucking hate it)

But in the OG FF7 nomura based a lot of his designs on western media.
Tifa was based on Jennifer Connelly
Bigs was based on Charlie Sheen from Platoon
The sweepers were based on ED-209 from robo cop
Demon wall was based on Alien.

>>717656234
I always thought the least realistic thing was was the massive mega structures. something as large as the plate and midgar cannot exist

>>717631984 (OP)
he looks like a complete fag and she's ugly as shit

>>717656506
>nasty fap materials
Holy Aerith roastie

>>717656506
bottom right is the best. is that advent children?

>>717655091
>Real people eyes
You jealous chungus flatties are not real people.
Remember the one we see flirting with another man is Aerith

>>717656952
yeh

>>717656506
You do realize all nips (including female nips) are very horny, right?

>>717657328
then why the low birthrate and high incel rate?

>>717656952
Shit taste

How do grown men end up becoming shippers?

>>717657472
Bottom left is very nice too, I love Rebirth. Also come on anon please post uncensored

>>717657491
Autism and loneliness

>>717657520
Get ur own AI

>>717657472
>green eyes
theyre supposed to be red

>>717657491
Autism and loneliness

>>717657762
This is a Tifa/Jennifer Connelly mashup, sometimes I make em green, sometimes red.

>>717657491
It starts when they're young, and they just happen to never grow out of it. I'm 32 now. When I was a teenager I was into shipping. My all time favorite ship was Sasuke and Sakura, which actually happened. But I stopped caring about ships when I was in my late teens. If you don't grow out of it something went wrong.

>>717657920
Why do you make them at all? it's random weirdness.
She doesn't have that face in the OG game.

>>717657417
They find porn earlier than naked girls.

>>717657920
ah fuck it post more

>>717657983
Because I felt like it? Why are you gay?

>>717657417
Boomers making education too long and studies worship over love worship

>>717658202
That one kinda sucks and doesn't look like JC

>>717655632
All me

>>717631984 (OP)
What? I feel like it's the only ship I see anymore

>>717658502
Yea that one is specifically off the old games style, the Jennifer Connelly ones are what I wish she looked like in the new games instead of asian.

>>717657491
Autism, and loneliness

>>717631984 (OP)
Isn't it more popular than cloud x Aerith now?

>>717656168
>pixelated tits
NNNGGGHHH

>>717658732
no, just louder and more obnoxious

>>717647064

>>717659556
kek

>>717658905
So, popular.

How much for a night with the flower girl? I've got about 3k gil to spend

why do women hate Tifa?

>>717631984 (OP)
Because she is meant for Barrett.

>>717661219
Tifa has a lot of female fans actually

>>717661219
Just sound human beings hate a cheap knockoff that smells like some manlet ojisan's cumstains.

>manlet ojisan

>>717659667

>>717662049
does that mean he was an incel and cucked by japanese chads for the woman he wanted but only wanted her because of her looks?

>>717661219
Do they?

What did she mean by this?

>>717662720
She doesnt love Tifa. She is just a roastie whore looking for attention from simps

I really hope they turn Clouds schizo levels up 100fold in the next game.

>>717631984 (OP)
Because Cloud X Yuffie is massively superior

>>717662895
They will, going to peak at crater

>>717631984 (OP)
Because it's canon already

>>717661219
They like her actually

>>717654103
Best thing about remake

>>717657417
No that’s just the twelve hours six days a week work schedule.

>>717652792
>This world becoming FFX is a pipe dream
Of course it is.

Because this world comes AFTER Final Fantasy X

>>717661219
Because she is hot, has big boobs and she is faithful

>>71763198Sefikura and Aerti exist, that's why.

That tabloid >>717662049 was mocking Ayumi ( already quite "famous" among tabloids since those under*ge stuff she did >>717656506 )'s face got modeled onto (nu)Tifa.
"いますぐウチ(一人称)も大改造" = "I need a major makeover right now!"

>>717664358

>>717664454
>I post something I can't even read and pretend I won
Are you trying to make yourself look less a subhuman or somethin?

Manjuu-seller is a term to explicitly call meat-toilet-tier cheap whores.

>>717665356
>>717665587

Tifa haters reminds me of Orihime and Hinata haters

>>717665967
Most psychos over analyze shit in the most obscure way. Characters and plot are way simpler

>>717665967
Honestly I could care less for Orihime, but Hinata vs Pain made me fall for her even though before I was kinda a hater.

>>717665967
It's projection since Aerith is the one who wants to fuck 2 men

>>717662895
Posssesed cloud boss battle in the crater

>>717667649
>even a fucking mobile gatcha scam does it better than 7R
nuke square HQ now.

>>717662895
It's too late they already bitched out. The most impactful thing he could have done was violently assault Aerith and they cucked on that so fucking hard they didn't even do it.
this is sanitized anime shit for babies. They think that cloud killing enemies like he does noramally all throughout the OG is the scariest thing he can do.
>Oh no don't kill shinra grunts that's too far dude
>you can't kill the wall demon he's a living creature uwuuu
>we can't kill turks! stop it cloud you're scaring me.. blub blub UWU
>I'm nu-tifa I'm a whiney weak cunt, has anyone seen my backbone? I must have left it in the OG next to the good writing.

>>717668050
7r didnt try to do that and failed. It does something different.

>>717669163
and failed.

>>717669279
It didnt.

>>717668360
>the OG
>good writing

>>717668050
Based Nomura making 7fags seethe

>>717670715
yes amazing writing compared to 7R.
It's amazing that 7R characters are so cartoonsishly fucking stupid and retarded, the chibi cartoon OG ones are somehow 100x more mature and intelligent.

Take for example the start of the OG;
-Avalanche are discreet, Jessie whispers to cloud when she's talking about blowing up the reactors.
-in 7R all the Avalanche retards yell about their blowing up the reactors right in the open. clinical retardation.

>>717671230
-In OG Cloud needs to wear a scarf and helmet to disguise himself from shinra and the turks who would instantly recognize him.
-in 7R Coud takes Tifa & Aerith with him, they all walk right up to shinra and the turks and no one recognizes them. not being able to recognize faces you've seen many times means the Turks have a lower intellectual capacity than pea-brained animals like parrots.

>>717631984 (OP)
Because Tifa is made for /ss/.

>>717648475
I felt like Aerith walking away with Zack at the end of Advent Children at least for me cemented that Aerith and Zack was always the pairing that was just a victim of shit circumstances, and that Cloud was only ever a brief infatuation for Aerith because he had essentially made himself a walking monument to Zack's memory.

>>717631984 (OP)
Because NuTifa is too forward. Both about her romantic interest and her depression. Because NuTifa is ugly. And because NuCloud is a dweeb autist instead of a hardass leader. As such the act of pairing them isn't cool and exciting anymore.

What does the Lifestream even do?

>>717674619
Cloud was always autistic and incel-coded

The “people” making and posting in these threads are psychotic clerithhags that can’t get over the fact that cloud and Tifa are destined for each other

>>717631984 (OP)
if new game were a real remake people would but
>>717633857
is correct

>>717674897
no he wasn't, he was much more of a person.
he teaches kids how to fight like soldier. nu-cloud is so autistic he can't even talk to kids and 80% of his dialogue is cringe anime grunting.

>>717639845
on model nude or with skimpy clothing, or nothing.

because tifa is for bbc duh

>>717632089
Truke

>>717676243
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they made Barret a fag in Part 3. He seems incredibly thugcoded in Project Remake.
Now that Baldur's Gate 3 made bestiality mainstream, he can have homosexual relations with Nanaki.

>>717651118
They'd started doing that before the remake though.
This raises the question as to whether her family's from Wutai or not.

>>717636483
it must be said that, in the OG, she really just step in after Aerith is dead, otherwise is always Aerith that takes the lead with Cloud, and there's nothing bad about that, as the CloTis tries to decipt instead.

>>717677016
Weirdest part is people from Wutai don't even look Asian. I mean the imagery and culture is obvious, but the people just looked like everybody else. Even Yuffie wasn't Asian in OG.
Sonon isn't Asian. His sister is though. I don't fucking get it.

>>717632089
Seriously: more I see these "battles" based on theorycrafting and more I hate the compilation crapfest and stick with the OG and only with it. They're making me hate FF7 more and more, everytime they appear and start these threads, to not mention all the Twitter bullshit around that.

>>717662852
Based wahmen, as long as they're show off their goods I don't care about their motives