When are you going to upgrade?

My main rig has windows 7 on it.
It plays emulators exclusively.
It's completely offline.
It's hooked up to a CRT.

Don't fall for the "upgrade" meme.

I upgraded the minute Windows 11 released and never looked back

>>717643473 (OP)
I use Windows 10 LTSC 21H2
Has support till 2032

>tpm horseshit

>>717643473 (OP)
>upgrade
perfectly happy with XP, saar
I will not be redeeming

>>717643473 (OP)
runs all the good pc only games and i have a lot of consoles from ps4 pro/switch and back

>>717643836
Hey retard, you didn't get the note. This plan fell through. Nvidia isn't providing windows 10 drivers after next year.

>>717643473 (OP)
i upgraded, and i regret it. Winblows 11 has display driver issues, loads of unity games and random indie games have screen flickering alt-tab issues now that are unsolvable until some sort of patch comes through. I've updated the display drivers twice now, done heaps of troubleshooting, and im still unable to narrow down the issue.

>>717643793
same

only retards and tech iliterate don't upgrade

Already upgraded to linux a few years ago

>>717644123
how hard will that game annihilate me as an enternal dekinai? the op is superb

>>717643473 (OP)
I already did.

>>717644250
NTA but I can't remember the last time I updated my Nvidia drivers and my games still run great. Hell, nowadays updating your drivers is counterproductive at best.

>>717643473 (OP)
october 2025 I will press the update button and see where this goes. Hopefully all my cracked adobe, autodesk shit still works

>>717643473 (OP)
something something did, something something linux, something something

>>717644434
Lots of newer games just straight up hard check which driver version you're on and don't let you play if you dont have it
>but I don't play new games
Then you may as well have stated on 7 instead of 10 which is already a botnet.

>>717643836
*security updates only
Good luck trying to play new games after 2026

>>717643473 (OP)
Is there a version of Windows 11 that guts all the spy shit out of it and addresses some of the jeetcode shit like the god awful performance on the start menu?

>>717644291
depends on how dekinai you are
its far above n1 if you want to actually read between the lines with it and all and it has a fair amount of non jouyou kanji
just try it id say

If I'm going to finally switch to 11 and plan to do a little debloating is there anything I have to know beforehand? i.e. can I somehow miss out on something if don't do something right off the get go?

>>717644291
>>717644543
im playing it for the second time btw
first time i played it was probably like 2-3 years into learning idk and now im on year 8 and realising just how much i missed in it

>>717643473 (OP)
never
unless i get an upgrade popup then i might just click it
i dont know

>2025
>using Windows when Linux is actually good for gaming now and idiot-proof distros for tech illiterates exist

I upgraded to 11 in 2021, you faggots are so fucking contrarian you will beg to be on 11 when 12 drops next year

>>717644651
I'm not a tranny.

>>717644592
https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer
just use this

>>717644651
which distro should I use? I've used ubuntu a long ass time ago but I haven't done any research lately.

>>717644651
I don't like the os imploding randomly thing or having to search for hours for random bugs

>>717644651
>idiot-proof distros for tech illiterates exist
you overestimate people
until linux comes on machines from the factory and becomes far more user friendly (to people below 120 iq) it will never be picked up

>>717644709
If you have to ask then you should just use Mint

I had a decade old 980ti rig that certainly needed an update. So I did. Yes, the end of life warning spooked me into doing it too. Now, I have a machine that can do 4k vr to entertain the family and what not.

Motherboard:
MSI MPG X870E Edge TI WiFi

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D

CPU COOLER:
Lian Li Hydroshift II LCD-C 360TL White

RAM:
CORSAIR Dominator Titanium RGB 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5 6000MHz 30CL White Plus 2 filler variants


GPU:
White Zotac 5090

SSD:
SAMSUNG 9100 PRO 4TB Gen 5 SSD

CASE:
Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL White

PSU:
LIAN LI Edge EG1300 White

FANS: 11 Lian Li UNI Fan SL-Infinity White

>>717644692
>anon is literally so mind broken and booty bothered that trannies that he purposely uses a shitty cucked operating system with shitty performance that spies on him
i dont even have an anime girl picture smug enough to convey how fucking retarded you are.

>>717644709
ubuntu

>>717644738
nowadays you can just ask chatgpt and it will give you the fix instantly most of the time

>>717643473 (OP)
My computer isn't compatible with Windows 11 spyware.

>>717644709

If you want idiot proof, go Mint. Also idiot proof with a gaming focus, Bazzite. Don't get caught up in the weeds when picking a distro, just find something recommended for beginners and give it a shot.

>>717644265
works on my machine

>>717644543
>>717644613
I think I'll spend some more time with retardge first. Thanks

>>717644709
LinuxMint for "it just works"
Arch if you're autistic

>>717644802
lol, lmao

>>717644738

Shit doesn't implode like it used to even just 5 years ago. Those days are long gone unless you're running an advanced distro and do something stupid or are toying with things you shouldn't without realizing the risk.

>>717644943
He's not wrong. If you're just troubleshooting it's going to be right more often than not.
Maybe if you're on Gentoo it might be a problem.

>>717644882

Gentoo if you're turbo autistic like I am.

>>717643473 (OP)
how is it an upgrade if nothing gets better?

>>717644813
Never knew I would see anyone running core2duo nowadays

>>717644692
>gets caught wearing a wig and a dress using tranny central OS
>d-dad I'm n-not a tranny I swear!

>>717645000
Gentoo is the Dark Souls of Linux

>>717644980

Gentoo is rock fucking solid if, and only if, you know what the hell you are doing. Needless to say, though I use it myself I would never recommend Gentoo to a newbie despite the meme of people doing so.

>>717644483
>he plays modern dogshit

>>717645061
the windows 11 cpu reqs are stupidly high
something like an i5 7500 (which is not supported) is still a totally capable cpu
its literally just a ploy they made with hardware manufacturers to make more people upgrade (microsoft gets licensing revenue from each pc sold and the manufacturers obviously also profit)

>>717645240
u wut m8? You only need a cpu that support popcnt, I used an i5-4670k for 3 years on the first 3 windows 11 builds.
Those are mostly OEM builder requirements, they can't sell 11 with an old cpu.

>>717644478
I would have stayed on 7, actually 8.1 because searching is a lot faster and 8.1 embedded industry is a lot slimmer than 10 LTSC, but I watch VR porn so I need to stay on 10

>>717644698
how do i know this isn't some russian malware shit that's going to remove all that stuff while adding keyloggers and bitcoin miners to my computer

>>717645352
nah it wont let you upgrade with that cpu
you can hack it and make it work but eventually theyll kill that

>>717645538
Its a 3 line registry edit, you don't hack any file.
They just barely killed the core2duo with 24H2 requiring popcnt, they won't require newer instructions sets soon and when they do it will just kill one or two generations of the i series.

How pirate friendly is it?
I have pirated adobe premiere and photoshop and don't want to fuckup everything

>>717645719
regedit to circumvent requirements is a hack
also if you are able to do that then surely you are also able to use linux
most people wont do it and will just buy new hardware

>>717645847
Linux just implodes out of nowhere and there is shittons of anon posting issues on /g/.
It is and will always be a server os meant to be used headless, the "desktop" experience put together by hobbyist isn't up to the task of lasting 10 years on a single install.

>>717643473 (OP)
I upgraded
To bazzite. No regrets

>>717645941
Congrats on coming out anon

>>717643473 (OP)
I have already upgraded to Linux

>>717645907
it works fine for me i think youre just bad at it tbqh

>>717646091
Damn son you need to go to /vr/ for that out of date insult

>>717645907
Works on my machine.
Only issues I had was overclocking my 7900xtx. Once I figured out its limits (increase of 5% from win 10 to GNOME) it ran no issues.
Yes I'm autistic

>>717646228
>>717646246
Good for you anon, I'm just not playing russian roulette.

>an OS vibe-coded by jeets
I cannot imagine a more horrifying thought

>>717644483
What games faggot? PC hasnt had one game worth playing released in a decade

>>717646301
i mean on this laptop if i ran windows it would be unbearably slow with all the antimalwareserviceexecutable.exe hogging cpu and the updates
on debian its completely usable and gets better performance in minecraft too

>>717646301
What is that Plasma 5?

>>717646361
I'm not talking about specific games, but games start using new apis and shit from time to time, an example would be tlou requiring apis only present on 10 build 1909+, this made all the faggots using LTSC based on 1809 to upgrade is they wanted to play it.
>>717646420
Nice to hear your toaster runs better on linux, good for you anon.

>>717643473 (OP)
Waiting for an actual upgrade instead of a downgrade.

>>717646481
>tlou
Not the greatest example if you're trying to scare me into upgrading.

>>717645907
There are shit tons of people posting about windows issues too. More than there are posting about Linux issues, although that's to be expected.
Actually I had a lot of issues on windows myself which I couldn't figure out despite being extremely familiar with all parts of the os. Namely one issue I could never solve was a massive performance drop in the network stack on uploads. No clue what caused or why, but only a restart fixed it.

>>717643671
weird flex but okay

>>717646643
Like I said, its just a random example, games use newer sdk and apis year after year, nothign stays statics nowadays.
>>717646660
Sounds like you only need to update your network driver, something you can do in 5 minutes, not wasting hours trying to find your specific issue on the internet

usecase for upgrading?

>>717643473 (OP)
never

>>717646232
I'll step in for him.
Nice OS named after a nigger tranny.

>>717646804
You joking nigger? There isn't a single wired intel network adapter that needs you to update a driver in any os.

>>717643473 (OP)
My work place paid some Indian kid to do it.
I hate it so much.
I just don't see anything they do needing windows at all.

>>717646979
lmao, just 2 years ago one of the most used nic on mobos had connection issues that were fixed with a newer driver version
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000095752/ethernet-products.html

>>717647067
Bruh my system was broadwell-ex not some consumer shit from 2023.

>>717647283
Intel nics from that era launched at version 20.0 and received periodic updates up to version 20.7, so yes, they received updates to fix problems.
Just take the L and fuck off.

I have 10 LTCS so I am good until 2032 thanks.

>>717645907
Windows has similar issues, but Linux users famously provide significantly more feedback.
The desktop experience of Windows has gotten worse and worse since XP, since Windows devs are now just the equivalent of less skilled GNOME devs.

>>717647575
Enjoy your outdated calculator, bozo.

>>717643473 (OP)
I ain't upgrading shit.

>>717644503
Windows 11 Ameliorated Edition (AME)

>>717647970
Botnet preloaded edition, nice

there are no good operating systems any more
those that would be, are not safe to use while connected to the internet
it simply is what it is

>>717644483
>new games
You mean remasters and 30 year old ports? How will I ever play those.

>>717643473 (OP)
I've already installed Debian and getting used to it.

>>717643671
How is any of that useful? You're such a fucking tryhard.

>>717648409
linux mint is good
arch isn't good but it's safe (and doesn't work for this reason)
and gentoo is good if you use vim and lynx only

>>717648530
too broke for real retro hardware i guess

>>717644543
>has a fair amount of non jouyou kanji
>language has DLC
This is fucking bullshit.

I already did, it's called Switch 2

>>717644250
Who cares, AMD makes better GPUs

>>717646361
FPBP

I finally dropped $550 on a newerish T14 thinkpad just a week ago since my 2012 T530 win7 workhorse is finally showing compatibility issues with some of my utilities, firefox is losing support and Master Duel's graphics update cruely kicked me off.

Fucking hate the thing, people saying 14in screens are fine are memeing and not having audio bars on either side is such a noticable downgrade it makes me want to tear my ears off. I also swapped from the preinstalled 11 to win10 ltsc IOT within a day, I really wanted to give it a fair shake and updated everything but within TWO HOURS of Yugiohing, all audio suddenly cut off mid duel, and then 2 minutes later the fucking thing forced closed EVERYTHING, WITHOUT WARNING, just to tell me to pretty please update again right this second thanks :)

Jesus fuck I was so god damn mad, give me OSes at EOL on laptops I could 3 tap kill a man with again you fuckers!! I can't even upgrade your shitty fucking soldered RAM unless I buy the $1400 gen 5 models!!!

>>717648915
jouyou is basically just the bare minimum list of kanji you can expect even moderately stupid/unread people to be able to read (with their jouyou readings at least)

>>717643473 (OP)
moving on to linux

>>717643473 (OP)
When my hardware no longer works with 10

>>717647456
The only thing taking an L here is Windows if up to date Windows doesn't have a working driver for something that old in 2025, retard.

>>717645527
It's literally open source so you can just read the source code, change whatever you want to and compile the exe if you don't want to trust the pre-compiled binary.

>>717643473 (OP)
I upgraded to w11 years ago and it's the same shit.

>>717643671
why does it have to be offline?

>build a $2000 pc
>run the most lightweight linux distro and play doom wads exclusively
I am such a fucking retard what is wrong with me

>>717650084
doing anything online on windows 7 is a huge virus risk

>>717650186
i use one of these i got for nothing

>>717644709
Mint
If you dont mind tweaking things sometimes and want a gaming distro
bazzite for fedora based or cachyos for arch based

>upgrade so you can play the latest ue5 games

>>717643473 (OP)
Anons 10 years from now: No. I will not upgrade my Windows 11 to Windows 12.

>>717650198
then how do i capture the vibe of surfing the web in the 2000's again?

>>717643473 (OP)
People shouldn’t install Linux unless you have a Steam Deck. Don’t listen to autistic trannies.
It commits suicide from time to time and you will have to reinstall. Also it’s ugly as fuck no matter how much you try to make it look good.
Just like trannies.

>>717650548
10 years? Give them just 5 and it's over for them

>>717643473 (OP)
I just did last week

>9800x3D
>4090

I will NOT upgrade.
Why? Because I don't need to, everything works fine. One of the thing life teach you is to not fix what works.
>but muh drivers
Nvidia can't make drivers anymore, they're bricking GPUs, I'm still using October 2024 drivers and I'm playing recent games just fine, Wuchang runs at max

>>717644738
So why are you still using windows then?
BSOD isnt a linux term

>>717643473 (OP)
Fuck if I know. Windows wants me to change some storage setting in the BIOS to make my PC compatible for 11, but I haven't gotten off my ass to do it. I'm probably upgrading my main storage some time this year though, so I'll set the new storage up to whatever that fuckin' setting is supposed to be set to, THEN I'll think about "up"grading to 11. Probably still wont though, IDFK.

>>717643671
how is that a 'main rig'? that's just a game station
how will you browse 4chan on it???

>>717650668
>It commits suicide from time to time and you will have to reinstall. Also it’s ugly as fuck no matter how much you try to make it look good.
but enough about windows

>>717643473 (OP)
My hardware can't run 11 apparently, so not.

I've switched to Linux. CachyOS, because I'm not autistic enough yet for Arch. A fresh OS install using 1% of my disk and ~5% of RAM is pretty refreshing coming from Windows. Biggest headache so far has been setting up dual boot with Windows.
>replace firmware keys
>sign linux kernel and bootloader
>enable secure boot
>remove linux ssd to quarantine it while I install windows on a second drive
>windows nukes my bootloader's EFI entry anyway, have to repair it
Kind of hairy but also fun to figure this stuff out.

>>717651469
reddit

>>717651565
The biggest change i found was the different file system structure. Especially with multiple drives.
Everything being mounted on the root drive is kinda weird at first.

In a month or so suddenly Windows 11 will have fixed EVERYTHING just like 10 mysteriously did.
Quack quack baby ducks! Time to upgrade again.

>>717651784
>throw out your perfectly good hardware and buy a new pc like a good goy because microsoft asked you to

>>717651384
>bricking
>zoom zoom uses this word for any time an error message pops up, because he throws away his PC and gets a new one in grape flavor when he sees unfamiliar text

I would rather stop gaming altogether than ever use troonix to be quite honest !

>>717651565
>but also fun to figure this stuff out.
what you trannies don't realize is that's not funny for most people.

>>717651915
Poojeets don't play games

Gonna switch to bazzite soon, any tips to not become a tranny?

>>717652040
Don't use linux, for one.

>>717652071
Lol microjeets working overtime today

>>717645907

>>717652148
>>717652038
calling anons pajeets won't bring your cock back lilith

>>717652071
windows has trannies too anon, nowhere is safe.

>>717644483
No good AAA games last year, none this year, and there won't be anything good next year either. There are a thousand better games made before 2013 I'd rather play than any jeetcode dogwater.

>>717652284
get a better material, jew

>>717645907
>KDE
GNOME is the default DE for a reason.

>>717652429
>GNOME user

>>717652148
Lol. Rofl. Lmao. Lol. I miss AOL. Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>717652429
i use both and they both have different problems but either is fine honestly

>>717643836
I'll do this, then buy a new PC when I'm ready with more money next year.

>>717644478
>Lots of newer games just straight up hard check which driver version you're on and don't let you play if you dont have it
only if you play triple-gay

>>717645415
>I watch VR porn so I need to stay on 10
QRD? Dont tell me win 11 has things to detect that.

>Windows 11 removes the seconds on the clock when clicking on it.
Annoying shit like this stacks up quick.
>You can enable it anon
Yeah for the task bar, that's so distracting. Let me just click it for seconds you windows 11 cock.

>>717643473 (OP)
Linux upgrade lets goooo

>>717652762
>didn't even know you could click for seconds before
>but I should be mad about this because Rain Man Anon is

>>717651897
You're beyond retarded.

>>717643473 (OP)
I'll keep using it.

>>717643473 (OP)
To Win12 in like 3 years when they ditch 11 for being retarded like Vista and 8

>>717653541
Also see: ME

>>717643671
>It's completely offline.
you are the only smart windows 7 user i've seen

>>717645907
Why are you using the desktop you full fucking retard
Christ, faggots you don't deserve Linux

I came back crawling to Win10 IoT because even after installing the propiertary Windows fonts everything looked like shit

>upgrade

>>717643473 (OP)
I didn't upgrade to 10 until 2021 when I finally built a new PC. I don't see myself building another until 2030 so I guess then?

>>717643473 (OP)
Like two months ago with my new rig. I don't regret it.

>>717653595
just don't get hit

>>717643473 (OP)
installed CachyOS three weeks ago, and so far, things are ok

>>717653647
>install a version of Windows without DirectStorage support
>everything stutters
>it's UE5's fault

>>717643473 (OP)
Well, not before EoL, then I'll think about it.
So do I want something Arch-ish for gaymen or how's it work for Linux these days?

>>717643473 (OP)
Already upgraded my laptop to Arch Linux and it's great but I don't game on it.
Sadly I have to use Adobe software so switching off Windows isn't gonna be easy when it comes to my desktop PC. I might have to bite the bullet and get a Macbook for Adobes bullshit so I can then freely install Arch on my desktop PC as well.

Still feeling this out but I know I want to get rid of Windows.

Do I post pro-Linux in hopes of helping people and hindering Microsoft, or do I post anti-Linux in hopes the normalfags stay in their cattle pens?

>>717654000
I'm a consoletard at the moment so I don't care, but I've been using Winshit for so long that the way fonts render on Linux is a genuine deal breaker for me.

>>717654354
>normalfag mass adoption of Linux
What's the worst that could happen?

>>717654354
pro-Linux when other technically competent people are around
anti-Linux when winshitters are asking stupid questions to keep them away

>>717652893
Not him, but it's useful for setting clocks.

>>717643473 (OP)
id prolly upgrade but the upgrade prompt keeps screaming at me my pc isnt equipped to run it

>>717654756
I haven't had a clock that needed to be set manually (besides my stove and my microwave, and I don't set those because I have a control center tablet nearby with a clock on it) in forever.

>>717643473 (OP)
When DX13 becomes mandatory for most games.

>>717654818
>IoT
ngmi

I have a (secondary) Windows 10 pc that I only use to play Dragon Ball The Breakers. This game "used" to work on Linux up to Season 5, but after that there have been Easy Anti-Cheat bullshit that has stopped the game from working on Linux ever since (compatibility with Steam Deck has been spotty. Technically the game runs right now on Deck, but as of late it'll disconnect you from the servers when you've been in a game for a few minutes)

They need to figure that shit out before Windows 10 end of life.

>>717654863
I use stock Pro for Workstations because I game. Other weirdos use IoT.

>>717643473 (OP)
>PC from 2019 is not compatible
Wtf i do.

>>717654979
Linux

>>717643473 (OP)
I activated win11 for free with a powershell command. and I disabled all the secure boot/bullshit with a rufus install. not paying for it.

>>717654979
unironically just install linux bazzite or mint
bazzite in particular already comes with all the vidya optimizing that makes linux beat windows in performance that jewtubers brag about by default

>>717655032
>disable secure boot
>when the only downside of using it is dual booting random linux distros that don't support it
This is schizo mentality.

>>717652242
wtf is this

>>717644709
Bazzite is very good for gaming and surprisingly user-friendly for someone (me) who had never used Linux before.
I would argue that once installed it's even easier to use than Windows, basically retard-proof.

>>717643671
Fpbp as always. I'm playing star ocean 4 and astlibra now, the only games I can't play is shitty directx12 games that comes out this year that's full of woke and bodytype shit.

>>717644483
Oh no, I won't be able to play new quadruple A releases!

>>717643473 (OP)
Not my problem.

I'm tech illiterate. Should I be worried about continuing to use 10 after it stops getting support? I can't upgrade right now because my hardware is incompatible.

>>717647625
You mean the one where you don't have to switch between several different modes to use the functions?

>>717650198
It's not a XP. There's still a bunch of basic security stuff that makes infecting it a bit more of a pain than that.
You're gonna have to clarify what you think is gonna happen.

>>717645149
At that point why bother with windows 10 at all then?

>not upgrading day 1
Do poorfags and niggers really live like that? Terrifying.

>>717657062
>nvidia dropping driver support next year
and that's just the start anon, 2032 is the microsoft date, everyone else will be long gone before then.

>>717643473 (OP)
I don't want to buy a new PC and my current one is too old to run Win11, so never?

>>717658943
>dropping driver support
Uh oh, I guess he'll have to use one of the already available perfectly functional drivers.

>>717659047
>new games don't run on windows 10 anymore
that's the next step. developers aren't going to target a platform with a dwindling playerbase, outdated libraries and drivers.
take a look at how things are going on windows 7 if you want a preview.

I respect the enterprise guys in doing their best to hold on but by 2026 or 2027 you are going to start finding lots of shit not bothering with compatibility for win 10 anymore. I was going to try it until Nvidia said they are done with drivers in 2026 for w10.

>>717643473 (OP)
I upgraded to a mac
gaming is dead so I will just stick with retro consoles

>>717659783
enterprise is a completely different environment: you want as little change as possible and certainly not new software that could break your environment.

>>717659783
I don't think it's going to happen quickly because of how many people refuse to use W11. It's a greater number than the group who stuck with W7 upon its closure

I don't play enough games to stick with windows, and the ones I do play all work with linux. So no.

>win xp dying
>nooo i dont want to upgrade to 7!!
>win 7 dying
>nooo i dont want to upgrade to 10!!
>win 10 dying
>nooo i dont want to upgrade to 11!!
vicious cycle

>>717643473 (OP)
I would switch to Windows 11 if Ichika became the official mascot. Alas she isn't and I'm a furfaggot so Arch it is.

>When are you going to upgrade?
When a game comes out that's windows 11 exclusive and I want to play it.

>>717660404
>never have to upgrade arch linux
rolling release is the superior format

>>717643473 (OP)
Upgraded to Linux already.

We desperately need a new term for when upgrading to something new isnt actually an upgrade in the literal sense.

is there a way to make the W11 UI look exactly identical to W10 and restore the right click menu
Everything else I can learn to ignore, but I hate that UI

>>717660615
sidegrade and downgrade both exist

>>717660404
Windows releases typically become usable after Microsoft stops fucking with them and moves on to the next one. You also forgot Vista and Win 8.

What feature would make GTA VI truly mind-blowing for you like something surprising but still somewhat plausible?

>>717660704
Running above 30 FPS

Up to 2032, if all goes well. Is 11 stable enough?

>>717660404
So basically, windows is the endless cycle of sansara, and linux is achieving nirvana.

>>717644483
Considering that 11 is quite literally 1:1 the exact same operating system as 10 with a shitty reskin and added backdoors something tells me that it's not going to be much of a problem

>>717643473 (OP)
>When are you going to upgrade?
When my 3 years of free ESU extended support updates end and there is an actual security risk.
I love being high IQ.

>>717661026
Name me one usecase for Gnome.

whenever i try to upgrade windows, something fucks up and i end up doing a full format and reinstallation, so all my installed shit is gone. I like my shit where it's at, don't want to start over.

>>717661082
There isn't one, xfce chads stay winning

Never because there's no way in hell I'm throwing out my "incompatible" $1k+ machine to use bloated, unoptimized, surveillance state panopticon tabletware made by and for Indians

didn't say say windows 10 would be the last version of windows?

I hate 10 and i hate 11 but i hate 10 less.

>>717643671
Planning to do this with my Win7 rig once I upgrade to Win10 IoT LTSC and run both computers side by side networked.

>>717661142
Kek based, this is what I always used too!
*squeaks!*

>>717661284
must be some really sad old shit you need to run to care.

>>717661370
>old is... LE BAD ACKSHUALEE
I'm sorry for whatever happened to you to make you viscerally hate the past, but I have good memories that matter to me and I enjoy revisiting. I hope you find something that matters to you as much as my personal history matters to me.

>>717661142
>xfce
i want wayland.

I just won't

>>717661475
i ain't reading this schizo babble

>>717661534
usecase?

Is linux really that hard for you to understand that you have cope and say its for trannies, or that its "the white mans" choice to stay on Microsoft

>>717661674
a distro that works and doesn't krash

>want to go linux
>remember i have nvidia card
maybe next time.

>>717661852
Every time something doesn't work I Linux, I get one of a few responses
>X is bad, use Y instead.
>Why do you NEED to use X?
>X works on Z distro, reinstall.
Linux is mostly troubleshooting, maybe that's fun for some people, but it's hugely time consuming and unsatisfying for most. The OS is for people who know what they're doing and have the energy to expend on it.

>>717643473 (OP)
>end of life
*teleports behind you* yours, if you try anything stupid.

>>717661935
AMD obsession is further Linux contrarianism. Nvidia is absolutely fine and supported well now.

If there was another option with an even smaller percentage of users, people would claim that was the best for Linux.

>>717643473 (OP)
Next time I build a new pc

>>717644265
>>717643473 (OP)
I am never going to upgrade to an operating system programed by ESL scabs and chatgpt.

>>717662260
>If there was another option with an even smaller percentage of users
intel has gpus now, and i'm pretty sure nobody is pushing people to use them on linux.
fyi AMD has about 50% market share on linux because nvidia has been shitting the bed for so long.

No, im not going to install Linux, it doesn't work with games.
>Yeah but just do this thing...
All games, steam, gog, emulator, random exe game i made in high school. Something in there wont be compatible

>>717644250
>drivers
No reason to update so long as nothing breaks. And nothing will break so long as you don't update.

>>717644478
>Lots of newer games
Such as?

>>717663130
>so long as you don't update.
everything is connected to the internet these days, your games, your software, hell even the web updates. good luck with that.

>>717662596
>>717662260
RADV shits all over Nvidia and it's AMD exclusive.

I installed Windows 11 for someone the other day and goddamn is it painful.
>What kinds of ads would you like to see? No you can't turn them off.
>Would you like to purchase an XCock Live subscription?
>Sign in to your Microshaft account (Mandatory)
I know there are ways to bypass or disable some of that shit, but still.

>>717663225
>uh, it will be bad
>who says?
>I do, because it will be bad!
Lel. I do not have auto updates enabled on anything and I run proprietary antivirus software that blocks any attempts of any programs to impose themselves upon my system by default. Any outgoing or incoming packet transfer or internet connection is monitored. I know even when someone goes around port sniffing here.

>>717643473 (OP)
To Linux? Soon, probably

>>717644503
win 11 ltsc IoT. Download it from microsoft's official site and activate it with a couple of powershell commands. Comes with the bare minimum and only gets security updates

>>717663270
Ye

>>717663645
>>717643836
>>717649013
>>717661284
>upgrade to Win10 IoT LTSC
you downgrade
LTSC is outdated and IOT is feature limited. it is for idiots. Especially when you can have an up-to-date build 19045.6159 with 3 fucking years of free ESU security updates whilst compromising 0% of latest windows drivers models.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Display_Driver_Model?useskin=vector

>>717663829
>LTSC is outdated
I don't care
>IOT is feature limited
I really don't care

I'll install IoT LTSC and strip it down even further.

>>717663906
you had the chance to ask how to have 3 years ESU and a real windows 10, but you chose to be an idiot
ctrl+w
*leaves thread* this day, I couldn't save a soul in here

>>717663829
Not any of those anons and I have standard W10 with updates turned off. Why does being outdated matter? I'm not going onto shady sites and I have a script blocker that I manually whitelist, am I really putting myself at risk?

>>717661935
I use linux on both my nvidia systems. It works fine, I just wish there was a full nvidia control panel or at least a cli that let you set all the commands that would be used in the control panel. I had problems running FFVII rebirth smoothly and one of the solutions involved limiting the FPS in the nvcp, which I could never figure out how to do. There is a control panel but it is obtuse to say the least and some options are just not there.

>>717643473 (OP)
My computer told me I don't meet the requirements to do so.

>EoL 2025
Fake news.
LTSC IoT receives support until 2032.

>>717644250
>Hey retard, you didn't get the note. This plan fell through. Nvidia isn't providing windows 10 drivers after next year.
Hey retard, I haven't updated my drivers in a while because NVIDIA did some retarded shit and completely removed 1600x900 from the list of valid resolutions.

>>717664297
well its not like youre not installing it on yourself.

>>717643671
>rig

Don't be afraid of Windows 11 gamers. It can be amazing IF you know the secret sauce.

I'm going to bed so don't have time to spoon feed you, but a great place to start is O&OShutup10, Revo Uninstaller, learn powershell+winget to upgrade apps, Windows Sandbox to test out apps you're not sure what BS they're installing, Malwarebytes Firewall Control to see what apps are doing over the internet, and Windows Services and Startup apps...block what you don't need. Bleachbit if your PC starts getting filled with too much shit (which won't happen if you use Revo and Sandbox). HWmonitor for temps and Wiztree if your harddrive is filling up with something and you're not sure what it is.

I run Windows on a tiny Beelink PC I paid <300 and this thing runs quick and smooth. I also have a gaming PC just for that and it works great!

Just, don't fuck with the OS. All the apps I mentioned are just pausing the fat, NOT cutting it out. None of it is changing Windows.

>>717643473 (OP)
I already did last month. I had to go with 23H2 though because when I tried to install 24H2, it gave me shit about my M.2 SSD being incompatible. Like, fucking what??

>>717664690
24H2 restricts the hardware requirements even more. Certain CPUs, SSDs, and chipsets have been dropped.

Is SteamOS good enough to switch to yet?

>>717664297
Use Rufus, or for in-place upgrades do: https://www.ghacks.net/2023/10/10/this-single-command-bypasses-windows-11-hardware-checks/

>>717643473 (OP)
Already upgraded to linux

>>717665049
I upgraded to Linux 10 years ago. It was trash so I went back to Windows 8.1 which I still use today.

>>717643473 (OP)
I will just continue to use win10.
Hell my toaster that I use daily is still on win7 as well.

>>717664567
Based. Microsoft acting like you need their permission to install software on your own hardware is peak clown world. Just crack that ISO open, bypass the TPM and Secure Boot nags, and slam it on there like it's 2009. Ain’t nobody asking the silicon overlords for permission.

>>717652242
>finnish
perkele

>>717664189
For wine games, you limit FPS by setting DXVK_FRAME_RATE=60 or whatever. Yes, it works with vkd3d too.

>>717664730
>Certain CPUs
I googled it and found an article saying that 11th gen Intel CPUs are now the minimum which sounded absurd and the article was written by a woman so I looked deeper and it seems the only new hard requirement is that the CPU can execute SSE4.2 instructions. Interestingly they've dropped the official requirement for TPM in 24H2 IoT.

>>717643473 (OP)
>>717644265
Upgrade implies improvement

>>717643473 (OP)
Nigga I'm staying on 10 ltsc, kys.

>>717643473 (OP)
2032, after the LTSC version becomes defunct.

>>717644250
Retard, I haven't updated my drivers since I got my GPU in 2022. I saw that my GPU was at a constant load at idle and I downgraded to a previous version. Haven't updated since.

>>717668126
classic

>>717663829
>IOT is feature limited
>no bloat
somehow a bad thing.

>>717668286
iot is a very basic install with nothing on it that's not meant for regular people.
just get ESU till your games don't launch or upgrade to windows 11 / linux.

>>717667946
prrrrtttt brap

>>717643473 (OP)
I wont

>>717668467
>quite literally the most perfect version of windows
>still trying to convince me that it is a bad thing.
Name one game that don't work on LTSC.

>>717668467
Look buddy, I was already gonna use IoT LTSC, you don't need to sell me on it

>>717668558
>craptop

>>717668467
90% of all modern Windows "feature" are useless garbage.
The less of them I can have on my system the better. Stop shilling your normie slop.

>>717668571
first off, ltsc and iot are two different versions.
they're not meant for regular people. it's like the basic install on arch linux, there's no internet, there's no bluetooth, there's nothing but a terminal. you - or more likely your IT department need to set it up.

>>717668750
Where do you think you are? We are not regular people.

>>717668689
It's not my actual resolution silly

>>717643473 (OP)
I skipped windows 10.

>>717668850
Meaning you use Win11? Bad choice.

>>717668750
I can only get so erect

>>717668795
Considering how much whining there is every time something even a slight bit technical is brought up, I think we are in a den of tech illiterate grannies who need help to check their e-mail

I'm just gonna stick to win10 until the last day.

>>717644503
it's called hardware from the last 5 years

end of life doesnt mean it stops working.

>>717643671
>main rig is offline
>posting from my phone btw
if win7 user in 2025 wasn't enough to tip you off you're probably one of the dumbest people on the planet

>>717664917
Not yet, Bazzite exists if you want pretty much the same thing as Steamos

>>717668840
>live on east coast
>this guy's an hour ahead of me
Betting on Brazil.

>powershell
>irm https://get.activated.win | iex
>press 3
>press 2
>wait

now you get updates

>>717668993
explain without ad hominem

>>717669029
Wrong! an Argie

>>717643473 (OP)
I already did, I would never use windows for anything but gayming anyways so I don't understand why it matters

>>717669090
I watched Epitafios and it was pretty cool. The nicer cities in Argentina look neat.

>>717668942
You said the same thing about 7 LMAO

>>717643473 (OP)
>company can just force you to stop using product you already bought so you have to buy the new thing
Why is this fair?

>>717668993
Using Win7 online. Just keep third party security programs running and don't go to weird fucking sites. Most of the internet is beyond safe these days, and OS native firewalls haven't been entirely effective for decades.

>>717669078
>micromanage my OS to make it work
most people don't want to turn their OS into their hobby, they just want to play games and browse the web.
congratz, you spend dozens of hours getting old shit to run on windows 7 that would run in 5 minutes on windows 11.

>>717669226
you could say addblockers are to a certain extend better security programms, kek

>>717668750
>it's like the basic install on arch linux, there's no internet, there's no bluetooth, there's nothing but a terminal
You have to resort to lies now?

>>717643671
You don't have to upgrade if it's an offline device.

But few people have an offline device. Remember how stupid normies are. They are connected to a web of lies.
They need to be forced to update, because they are too stupid to keep themselfs safe as you or I.

>>717669302
>UK English
>heterosexual date format
That's a based bong bro, buddy.

BTW malware peddlers and abusers want you to keep using Win7 so your PC will be nice and vulnerable. They post here on /v/, too. Be wary of anyone suggesting these things.

>>717669216
>you have to buy the new thing
The upgrade is free chud.

>>717669207
I didn't actually, I switched to win10 about 6 months out from EOL on that one. At this point i'm clinging to a turd to not cling onto a fresher turd

>>717669402
Malware peddlers and abusers don't go out of their way to target Win7 anymore because there's barely anyone using it.

>>717669446
SMASHED and SLAMMED

>>717669402
They don't target Windows 7 cuz the userbase is negligible.

>>717643671
>completely offline
why, are you hiding something anon? :D

>>717669512
there's nothing to "target", the vulnerabilities are well known, the malwares are already written, all they need is to add them to the script.
if you're using windows 7 and browsing the web, you're likely already part of some russian botnet.

>>717669463
>>717669512
Considering 7 doesn't even support the last 2 generations of Nvidia or AMD GPUs, any of the Intel Arc shit, or modern CPUs from AMD or Intel; you know exactly what 7 users' huts are constructed out of.

>>717669446
where necc

>>717669589
>NOOO YOU'RE POOR
The backpeddaling is humorous, I've literally just spent a few thousand dollars building a more up-to-date rig to use alongside my Win7 rig. I will not be using mainline Win10, I will not be using Win11. If Microsoft ever makes a good OS again, I'll consider it, but they'd have to stop hiring jeets for that to happen.

>>717669446

>>717669446
Dragon's Dogma pawn lookin ass

>>717669774
>NOOOO
>schizo
>poor schizo, at that
You live in a mud hut. The only hardware supported by your OS is ancient.

>>717663829
> IOT is feature limited
That's a good thing. Windows LTSC literally has higher fps in games because there is less bullshit in the background spiking CPU demand randomly

>>717644250
So?

>>717643473 (OP)
I have been XP user for little of decade;

>>717663829
Oh no. So you are telling me my Windows install doesn't have ads in the start menu and doesn't come preinstalled with eight different useless xbox apps? Are you seriously telling me that my sestem comes clean without cortana or copilot or recall or any other spyware bullcrap monitoring my every action 24/7?
Shit. I guess I fucked up big time. What am I going to do now?

>>717669245
why does that upset you so much

>>717643473 (OP)
I already reached peak

I love these threads. They show me the kind of subhuman retards that lurk this board and whose opinions I'm reading.
Truly eye opening.

>>717668750
>bluetooth
The fuck do I need bluetooth on my PC for you fucking retard?!

>>717671541
can't use any adobe programs

>>717644778
>>717645069
holy shit you guys are definitely NOT insecure trannies

>>717671889
For an average gamer (maybe an artist or something) what adobe programs would he need that he couldn't replace with FOSS? https://youtu.be/lm51xZHZI6g

>>717671889
emulate windows 10 LTSC IOT then

>>717669585
Most malware doesn't use any vulnerabilities, it just uses the retarded meatbag administering the system to infect. Windows 7 has a firewall enabled by default so it's not going to be infected by something scanning the Internet unless the user specifically turns the firewall off and then also does not have NAT.

I dont know. The day is coming, though...

>>717671889
I don't use adobe programs on Windows. Not paying a monthly subscription for that lmao.

If 10 LTSC breaks because no more drivers, even though I mostly play old games, I'll think about 11 LTSC+debloat or mint or something.

>>717671541
If you only browse facebook, sure

>>717672498
I play videogames (recently finished System Shock Remake)

>>717672498
Who doesn't? The memes and marketplace are too good.

>>717649624
Windows and (you)

>>717652242
Tell us about the plans, Anon.

>>717672336
If you're stealing computer time from Microsoft by running linux, you should be okay with stealing Photoshop.

>>717659193
developers have gone back to supporting PS4 and Xbox One
if you simply refuse to switch then the developers will have to grow up

>>717669438
the upgrade requires arbitrary hardware replacements for most people so no it is not
there is absolutely no reason for a fucking OS to have the requirements that W11 does

>>717672939
>new pcs have windows 11 by default
no matter what, windows 10 is gonna die and microsoft is doing everything they can to make that happen faster.
there's no world where windows 10 keeps going, this isn't linux where you can fork gnome and have a working system 15 years later.

>>717673219
you don't need to buy a new PC every year

>>717672825
I never said I'm not okay with doing it, I'm just not going to do it. If I'm not willing to pay for their software, I'm not willing to pirate it either.

>>717673137
Anon, TPM motherboards have been released over 10 years ago, I know you only watch videos and play old browser games, but at some point you have to update.

>>717643473 (OP)
When is 11 getting all its missing features?