>"Prepare yourself, Anon, for my undodgeable attack that always hits the heart and kills you! GAE BOLG!"

Heart? I want his gae bulg to hit my prostate

>>717649747 (OP)
So I just need to take some of my heart cells and have them posted on a wall. My heart and living heart cells are indistinguishable after all.

>>717649747 (OP)
nah, I'd dodge

>>717649747 (OP)
My treasure let's be become a copy of the person who kills me, meaning you'll kill yourself!

>>717649747 (OP)
Nasu is such a hack, holy shit. It's like he just writes shit that sounds cool and doesn't really think about it would work in his own story.

>>717649747 (OP)
>Include him in the FSN collab event in honkers starrail but only as a guest and not a playable character

>>717649889
Its not hard to process, anon. The first magic is making fairy tales real. Gae bulg distorts and rewrites reality to make gae bulg hit the heart, because the mythical gae bulg is an attack that always hits the heart. It happens.

>>717649889
Keep reading his stuff and you'll see it only gets worse.

Nasu should've died after Kara no Kyoukai 5, he never managed to make a good plot after that

>>717649747 (OP)
>>717649889
How the fuck did FATE get so popular? It's complete dogshit drivel

>>717649747 (OP)
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/G%C3%A1e_Bolg
This is Ulillillia tier shlock. You /jp/ tourists actually read this?

>>717649992
And then it never works because then Lancer wins against everyone and that's the story.

>gae bolg
More like gay bulge, why would anyone give a shit about faggot characters in fate with all the cute girls around?

it's SUPPOSED to be retarded, that's why it's good.

>>717649806
Archer...
>>717650017
Cute waifus. Archer being GAR. Best boy Kotomine. Shirou being clinically insane.Epic heroes from history and myth fighting is a nice setup to point we have copies of this like Petals of Reincarnation. Nice music in both the VN and the DEEN adaptation.

>>717650061
It works fine, it just so happens that plot contrivances always force lancer to use it on people who can tank a spear through the heart, because it would be a very boring story otherwise.

>>717649747 (OP)
I saw art of this dude in a school shirt and plaid skirt acting girly and it confused the fuck out of my dick. Couldn't even rewatch fate normally. Wasn't even a trap and I got hard

>>717650017
It's cool, it's one of the first really notable VNs to ever get translated. Before we got jack shit.

>undodgeable
>Never kills
>Is dodgeable
Lancer is fraud

>>717650227
That connfused you huh? How about this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/1ml7ipm/i_male_cosplayed_blond_rin/

>>717650195
I'm glad you agree.

>>717649889
>It's like he just writes shit that sounds cool
based

>>717649889
>he just writes shit that sounds cool
B A S E D

Guys Gae Bolg, actually worked one time.

>>717649747 (OP)
>Has a oneshot special attack (in theory)
>Has to say "I'M GAY" every time he wants to use it

>>717649747 (OP)
>prepare yourself
>FOR MY COCK

>>717650465
>>717650537
the jingling keys approach to YA writing

>>717650554
It's kind of galling that the only time it ever works is against a human mage and not a servant. And even then it's only because her luck of the Irish is just as shit as his.

>>717650283
It's only dodgeable if you have a sufficient Luck stat. Which might as well be your ability to bullshit.

>>717650006
I don't see how anyone who thought KnK was good would hate Tsukihime, they're more or less interchangeable and not just because the MCs have the same name and power.

>>717650283
>has the strongest arsenal that counters most possible servants
>has insane stats far beyond reason, even for a servant
>has a totally-a-sword that can return things to nothingness or something
>still loses to a high school kid who copies his basic swords
I won't pretend to know the lore enough to say if it makes sense, but stuff does often feel like an asspull in the franchise.

>>717650746
what's even worse is her best ability is only a counterattack. she was cooked.

>>717649747 (OP)
*yoink!*

>>717649889
He was hard carried by others on his team.

>>717650862
Obviously meant to post Gilgamesh.

>>717650862
>>717650975
It's not an ass pull. Gilgamesh should and can easily stomp Shirou, but that would mean recognizing this mongrel as a worthy opponent, which is so far beneath him that it's not even a conceivable option. The moment he considers Shirou a worthy opponent is the moment he gets overwhelmed, and at that point Shirou slices off his arm that's pulling out Ea. And Shirou only has the power to do this thanks to merge fuckery with another Heroic Servant, and the only reason he keeps getting up is because of Avalon making him literally immortal, and the only reason that's happening is because Saber is observing the battle, so it's not even strictly a 1v1.

>>717650874
It's a shame because Bazett as a concept (and indeed as depicted in, say, Prillya) is really fucking awesome by mage standards. She deserved to be in something like Case Files or some other largely street level scenario, being a jobber against servants is kind of a waste.

>>717650746
if it works on masters then it should be an easy win for the HGW. Lancer just wasn't even trying.

>>717651104
If it were ever that simple Assassin would win every time, but obviously that's not the case.

Even I could dodge Gae Bolg. It's the most worthless NP I've ever seen

>>717649747 (OP)
The only good thing that has came from fate is the see you next semester mike, yuri illya magical girl spinoff and sakura's huge honkers

>>717651104
If it worked like that Lancer would be unbeatable since he could merc every master to death by spamming Gay bolg however, canon says otherwise.

>>717651104
It's not that Lancer isn't trying, he's doing what Kirei wants.

>>717651237
>sakura's huge honkers
Rider is hotter and is right next to her.

>>717651104
Had Kirei not killed Bazett, Cu and Bazett would actually do pretty well in a Grail War. They're toughest fights would be against Bererker with Illya, and Caster with Kuzuki and Assassin. Kuzuki's fighting style is tricky so he if Bazett is not careful, she can die on the first encounter. However, if she learns the trick than she win as Nasu said.

>>717651093
That's kinda my point. Just because the attacks and abilities have seemingly impossible to counter descriptions or capabilities doesn't necessarily mean they can't be beaten in the context of the story, it kinda feels like the battles are just logic debates half the time.

>crits God

>>717651104
If it sounds easy then his Luck stat would defy it. Him being summoned then immediately yoinked by Kirei is his Luck stat at play.

>>717650017
>mythology
>hot chicks
>rpg mechanics
>puddle deep philosophical dialogue
Shit is crack to 12-17 year olds.
It's crack to 13-17 year olds.

>>717651093
>which is so far beneath him that it's not even a conceivable option.
Yeah, that's why he got killed like a bitch by that mongrel. Exactly what one would expect from such godlike being.

>>717651380
So LCK is the most powerful stat in fate universe?
Does the people die when they are killed guy have highest luck and every other stat 0?

>>717651363
The entire point of Gil's character is that he's the ultimate in everything and that includes hubris. I don't disagree that it's more founded in an analysis of his character but it wouldn't be fitting for Gilgamesh to use Ea on Shirou. He says that himself and every time he busts out Ea he makes a clear point of displaying that his opponent has earned the right to see it. That's just the way he thinks. I can understand how that's not satisfying since in a straight-forward one-on-one fight, Gilgamesh should win every time, but it's consistent with his characterization for sure; Gilgamesh doesn't do straight-forward one-on-one fights unless he respects you.

>>717651237
Sakura also has a nice ass.

>>717651374
This guy and Shiva pretty much carried my endgame in SMT II. I don't think him critting YHVH mattered as much as Shiva's one spell that does 1/4 damage of his health, mostly because he's such a fucking disgusting damage sponge.

>>717650017
It's fun. Historical figures and kick ass fights are dopamine to my forever 15 year old brain.

Ahem
Tohsaka's anus.

>>717651408
He sure is a retard. Pride's rarely a good thing.

>bring guns to the holy gril war
>almost managed to 1v7 all by himself

>>717651492
Eh, if I had to fuck someone who'd been sacked more times than ancient Rome, I'd rather Fujino or Kohaku. Mostly because I prefer dandere and fake genki girls over fake demure girls.

>>717649747 (OP)
you mixed up assassins noble phantasm you idiot

>>717651652
>shoots people with bullets embedded with bone carvings from his ribs
>makes them explode internally

>first fight in the vn
>"here is my undodgeable attack"
>"dodges it"
Zero internal consistency. No point in engaging in powerscaling discussions because the author is a retard who contradicts absolutes for no reason.

>>717649747 (OP)
MY GAY BULGES

>>717651726
She still gets hit by it, it just doesn't hit her heart.

>>717651652
Magus are just retards who tricked themselves into believing that cheating ceremony had some kind of rules of engagement.

>>717649747 (OP)
The strongest Servant class...Sabe-ACK!

>>717651652
Could if you imagine if Kerry got the Hundred Face Hassan instead of Kirie? He could give them all sniper rifles and all sorts of shit to easily kill each master.

>>717651652
I mean it wasn't really the guns alone, his origin bullets and tactics were what made the difference. Even an arrogant bitch like Fastwheels handled all of his ordinance up until the circuit frying bullets. If he'd been up against a mage who actually knew how to fight and didn't give a fuck about decorum like, say, Touko or Araya, then he'd be kind of fucked.

>>717651824
The Hasans would finally get a master that understands how to Assassin. That'd be nice.

>>717651836
His Magus Code is strong too. He fought Kayneth the way he did because he had a psychological read on Kayneth, a prominent figure in the Mage world that would be easy to get information on. He knew Kayneth would judge him as a lowly Magus and everything he did was to bait Kayneth into the one moment where he could get a clean Origin Bullet shot. He'd change his tactics against other opponents, though I don't know if he'd win.

To me some of the funniest Fate lore comes from Apocrypha backstory stuff.
>Amakusa got adopted by Kirei's father, so they are brothers. Amakusa is aware of the distortion in Kirei, so he stays the hell away from him so he doesn't get killed
>Sakura got adopted by Luvia's family and they became sisters. Sakura and Rin fight over Shirou who hasn't been mindbroken by the fire
>In Sub Grail Wars, Hassan Assassin servants were the meta, and kept killing all the other masters. People teamed up to make a grail war wiki to learn all the Hassan's secrets, and immediately team up to take out Hassans
>Heracles was broken as fuck and got banned in Greece. Then people went with Achilles

>>717651940
That's kind of what I mean though, Fastwheels was a really easy target for someone who operates like Kerry does. Someone who's cautious and ruthless like the ones I mentioned would be very difficult to prep for and even harder to actually take down without getting iced first.

Is there any reason you couldn't just summon worst (best) girl and have her casually kill every master with her A++ Espionage that doesn't even let you see her as an enemy?

>>717652103
He beats Kirei who is an accomplished Executor, wasn't that also with the Command Seals from his father, I can't remember. Anyway, I think he has a shot at beating other strong people. Kirei is quite strong as far as humans go.

>>717649747 (OP)
>calls you gay
>stabs your servant
>leaves

>My lance never misses
>Misses because ???
>Didn't try and stab again because ???

>>717650195
>it just so happens that
See that's the problem. It's the same with saber being the ultimate servant when she's mediocre.
You can tell me all about how great and awesome this thing is but all I see is failure I'm not going to take it seriously. It literally does not matter what excuses you come up with. Wobbly fists is the perfect example. You can have every gay excuse in the world you want, it's still a middle aged japanese teacher easily beating the fuck out of the world's strongest hero and knight in all of history and making her drool and piss herself.
>but he's buffed
>but it's magic
>but it's (excuse excuse)
If all you want me to believe it reverses reality to always hit every single time then fucking show it happening at least once instead of just asking me to trust you on it

>>717652141
>At a rank of A++, unless her own allies expose her, it's impossible to realize that she's the enemy.
With her shit D rank Luck this is just what would happen and then you die

>>717652253
>doesn't refuse to elaborate
Your undoing.

>>717652180
He beat Kirei (barely, mind you) but that's mostly because he fights like an Executioner and not like a mage which made it possible for Kerry to outmaneuvour him with his time magecraft. With someone like Touko he'd be at a massive disadvantage since she's the kind of person who lays traps wherever she goes, would incinerate his heart from the inside at 500 feet and probably can't be put down even with Origin bullets because of her spare bodies.

>>717652341
>Didn't try and stab again because ???
I mean in FSN it's because Kirei explicitly commanded him to disengage if that happened. GB has pretty low mana cost by NP standards, IIRC, so under different cirumstances he might be able to just spam it until it works.

>>717651652
It probably helped most of the mages he fought were weakshit AND too stuck up to perceive the idea of a normal human fighting, if he fought a mage who wasn't afraid to use modern tactics and weapons like him, he's boned

>>717652253
GAY

>Sneaks into your house and poisons your food

It really is that simple

>>717652376
>See that's the problem. It's the same with saber being the ultimate servant when she's mediocre.
Saber is the ultimate Servant when she's powered by a proper mage. Shirou's just not a proper mage. She still beats Gilgamesh down in Fate route anyway.

>>717652616
This is why the smart TM mages think like Discworld wizards and just assume everyone is trying to kill them at all times.

>>717652529
>under different cirumstances he might be able to just spam it until it works
Infinite Gae-Bolg Works?

>>717652896
>run away from Gae Bolg at the same speed as Gae Bolg forever
I call this the Quantum Bolg. It's a bit different from normal Quantum states, since the only thing it can do is miss, but at least in this timeline it could possibly hit.

One thing not talked about is for both of his Gae Bolg moves, Lancer can raise the Ranks using Runes.

>>717652896
>Infinite Gae-Bolg Works?
That's kind of how the thrown version works, really. His mistake of using it against Archer was not being able to predict he could just pull someone else's anti-projectile shield out of his ass, I'm pretty sure if he'd just used the regular thrusting version Archer would've been fucked.

>>717649747 (OP)
more like gay balls

>>717653107
Just ... pick up your lance and throw again?

>>717653107
Nasu acknowledges that. He said that Archer would just stay out of range for the instant death one.

>>717653083
To be fair, there's fairly limited reason or application for him to do so. About the only obvious one is to bypass God Hand and that's about it really.

>>717653150
It's pretty obvious that he could've actually done that, especially as Archer was pretty badly fucked up even with Rho Aias taking most of the damage. But considering he was just there as a distraction so that Rin and Shirou could get to Caster he didn't have much of a reason to keep fighting.

>>717653246
Bro the holy grail war literally only ends when every servant's dead, how is there not a reason to keep fighting and finish Archer off.

I knew it was overrated but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad. Genuinely one of the worst visual novels I've ever read. I felt like I got bamboozled about half the time I spent reading it.

>>717653226
>Archer keeps widening the distance to stay away from GB
>But Lancer won't back down because Protection From Arrows means Archer can't hit him, probably not even if he goes all out with UBW since he fended off Gilgamesh for fucking hours
Yeah that'd be a pointless fight that never goes anywhere.

>>717653297
Lancer was trying to help Rin get Archer back as well as fight Caster. Once he realized Archer's plan, he let him go. He didn't know Archer was gonna later kidnap Rin for his suicide plan though.

>>717653297
Because Lancer knows he could kill Archer, while letting Archer heel turn on Caster is massively in his favor because Caster with Assassin and Saber is a much bigger problem.

>>717653383
>>717653472
Alright I forgot the plot of UBW. It has been like 15 years since I read that shit. Sorry about it. my bad.

>>717653567
It happens to everyone, don't worry about it. At least we're not arguing about shit that ends up being retconned by fucking FGO lore or some garbage because fuck if I have time for that shit.

>>717653348
You had to be there

WHat went so wrong?

There were some good moments but it sucked ass

>>717649889
The gae bulga is a spear from Celtic mythology that skewers whoever it hits from the inside retard he didn't make it up

>>717653976
I thought it was fine. It portrayed the fights I wanted to see animated really well like Herc vs. Salter. There weren't any glaring issues with the adaptation, it's more that Fate is an introspective series so without character thoughts you lose out on a lot of it.

>>717653976
>That part where they turned Saber Alter overpowering Berserker with a single Excaliblast into completely outmatching him in every way
>Even though her Agility actually drops to complete shit as Alter and the idea that she could keep pace much less outpace him is laughable
Ufotable really peaked with KnK 1-7, nothing but all downhill after that.

>>717654297
retarded powerscaler

>>717654053
The thrown version also borrows from Odin's Gungnir, which IIRC is actually mentioned in the VN.

>>717654313
I mean I could've just gone with
>They completely botched the adaptation to make flashy slop for easily pleased morons
and left it at that, the fact that they didn't pay attention to the fine details of the characters is just a pet peeve of mine.

>>717654410
please quit being retarded

>>717654490
Not an argument.

>>717650379
nah this doesn't do anything for me, my dick can tell by the legs that it's not a girl.

>>717654575
I don't argue with CUM DROOLING RETARDS

Is there a way to know which servant you would get in a holy grail war scenario?

Sex with Jack and Abby

Trying to get a servant is like rolling from a gacha. Using a catalyst is essentially a rate up. Even if you did someone the right person, it might not come in the class you expected.

>>717653976
Unironically the best adaptation if you read the vn.
I'm thoroughly convinced that people who dislike the movies are simply secondaries who don't get how subtle and kino it truly is.

>>717654645
If you summon without a catalyst then it's either random or personality matching.

"Please don't rape again, Morgan!"

>>717649889
>think about it
See that's your problem. You really shouldn't be thinking about it either. You'd enjoy it a lot more if you didn't.

>>717655227
>"What rape?"
>Proceeds to hypnotize him again

>>717653348
Filtered

>>717654645
Do you have an item/piece/something related to servant you want to summon?
>yes
very high possibility you get who you want
>no
RNG+increase chance of servant who is close to your nature
>inb4 Diogenes servant who tells you to fuck off, goes to a trash pile and wank all day everyday

>>717655130
There's a nice frame of a rabbit with its guts having a bunch of worms in it while Sakura is having a schizo moment. There are a lot of good subtle details like that.

>>717651435
Luck in fate isn't luck as we normally think of it. It's defined as the ability to defy fate. Cu's spear is fated to always strike the heart, the effect is already decided the moment he uses it, and reality will just twist and warp itself to make that happen. But if one has a high enough luck stat they can defy that fate and potentially dodge the undodgable spear.

Fate makes more sense when you realize the servant system works like a video game. It takes the legends of these heros and translates them into game mechanics or skills. So if someone defied fate in their legend, the grail will realize this as a high luck stat. If someone had a grand last stand, the grail will give them the guts skill. If it doesn't have an appropriate skill for something it'll edit an existing one or create a new skill entirely, and then use that skill in future summonings. So if you think of it like a video game his gae bolg would work like a special move that says "if LCK<B hit rate 100%". Saber had both the necessary luck and enough speed and reaction time to dodge the hit thanks to her instinct skill.

>>717654053
going by folklore he throws it with his feet and it explodes into shrapnel in their chest. He also has 7 pupils in each eye and 7 fingers.