Thread 717655932

Based + keep the brown cheaters out + not a problem on console

>>717656134
cheaters are making it through secureboot anyway lol

Console chads stay winning.

those things have existed for 10+ years and literally nobody complained

>shit gets worse for paying and legit custemers
>meanwhile cheaters and pirates are doing their shit uncontested anyway
quitting mp games is the best decision of my life

>>717656134
>keep the brown cheaters out
cheaters hacked it in less than a day

>>717656160
Real cheaters don't even buy these games.

>>717656160
>>717656230
Like I said not a problem on console once you turn crossplay off

>>717655932 (OP)
IT'S SO FUCKING OVER!
TIME TO CANCEL OUR PREORDER BFSISSIES!

>>717656219
>we've been eating shit and drinking cow piss for thousands of years, why stop now? praise vishnu!

>>717656267
>anti-battlefield trolls are anti-indian racists
Imagine my shock.

>>717655932 (OP)
how does secure boot even effect performance if it's just checking whatever you boot with?
it doesn't run any extra stuff during runtime?

>>717656579
Pretty obvious why TPM would affect things if you think about it

>>717656642
does it? I spent 20 minutes googling this morning and all I found is its cryptography that verify your PC booted without anything non-approved.
it doesn't run anything extra or verify every CPU execution or anything like that, it's just a checkbox devs can look at that says "this PC didn't start with weird kernal rootkit shit running"
WITHOUT secureboot anyone could run any number of kernal level shit on your PC.

>>717656134
>consolenigger with autoaim complains about cheaters

>>717655932 (OP)
>3 milliseconds difference
woah... oh my god... the lag... is insane....

>>717656259
>I hate cheaters but I will never ever ever hate aimbot assist

>>717655932 (OP)
>paintshop
lel

>>717655932 (OP)
>being told time and time again to not buy modernslop 3A games
>keep buying it anyway because apparently /v/ is contrarian board with zero good opinion oalgo
>now this
AAAslurper never learn a single damn thing in their lives.
>inb4 some browns will reply to this post as 'poorfag' or something like that

>>717656829
>>717657054
It quite literally does not have auto-aim lmao. You can even plug in a m+kb if you want

>>717656758
>WITHOUT secureboot anyone could run any number of kernal level shit on your PC.
alright, go ahead and run kernal (sic) shit on my PC

>>717657550
>Listen guys it's not cheating if it's sanctioned by the devs because... Because it's just not okay?!?

>>717655932 (OP)
oh no no no

DONT BE POOR ITS TIME TO UPGRADE

>>717658945
COPE

>>717655932 (OP)
Wew, 3 milliseconds. Literally nothing,seen as everyone who is playing BF6 also has 3 milliseconds more latency then it doesn't even matter.

Blame the cheaters not the devs trying to prevent cheating scum.

>>717655932 (OP)
Buy an ad.

BFaggots eat whatever shit the devs blast in their mouths, these threads are pointless

>>717657047
For a millennial like you it does not matter due your natural delay, but for us young people it makes a huge difference.

who gives a fuck who plays these games anyways? People who deserve to be fucked. Enable TPM and secure boot and get cucked bucko

>>717656579
>>717656758
I came across this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/zsmieo/tpm_upgrade_fixed_2_years_of_stuttering/
This guy switched from a fTPM (TPM implemented within the CPU/firmware) to a dTPM on the motherboard. This must mean there's a design flaw with the fTPM implementation, which could be the same for the benchmark posted by OP.

fuck yes I can't wait for Razer to release the first batch of LED Gaming TPM chips

>Steam-indians seething because they can't cheat as easily
kek

>>717661729
the game is already hacked despite all the jewish spyware

>mfw I dont know if the anti-secureboot peeps are poor 3rd worlders or heroic opsec chads
>mfw I highly suspect that the pro-secureboot are just shills and bootlickers, but I just can't prove it

>>717663192
Turning secure boot off is bad opsec. You should only do it if your OS doesn't support it.

>>717660812
There was a problem with fTPM and the AMD security coprocessor which caused CPU scheduling issues, resulting in stutter in time-sensitive contexts like games. Afaik AMD eventually resolved that with Agesa firmware updates.

>>717662832
>>717656230
is this seriously what modern games look like now? its looks like fucking counterstrike did over 10 years ago

>>717663358
>>Turning secure boot off is bad opsec
Hmmmmm I see. Guess I should research it more b4 making dichotomous statements

>>717655932 (OP)
why are pc faggots so insufferable?

>>717663769
It's basically just confirming that boot files are untainted from a signature. It's not supar robust, but it's still a measure of protection against rootkits that would be silly to turn off.

>>717663825
Console shitters use chronos

>>717664101
>yes goy just make sure you can only run shit signed by microshaft, shilltel, jewmd, etc.
secure boot is a blight on computers
and you disingenuous cunts also gloss over the fact that the anticheat also mandates the use of a TPM, which is a jewish DRM chip with the same objective as TrustZone (what play integrity and banking apps rely, on for its jewish remote attestation checks)
you cunts should burn in hell

>>717655932 (OP)
Where is the benchmark for BF6, or "every game"? All I see here is a Paintshop. I'm sure with something so factual and definitely real and wide spread you'll have easy gaming benchmark evidence to provide

>>717663192
retarded AI pajeet

>>717664397
wow you sound so sane and well adjusted and totally not off your meds or anything

>>717657891
Does this work with mouse, or is it just for the controller?

>>717663664
The polycount is multiple orders of magnitude higher now though. Instead of normal maps, you have fully modeled cracks on brick walls.

>>717663385
>Afaik AMD eventually resolved that with Agesa firmware updates.
That solves the mystery since no one ever updates their BIOS

>>717664397
>can be turned off
>verifying signatures as an option is bad
Why do you schizos lie?
As for the anticheat, who cares? You don't play games anyway.

>>717664597
I am sane
I can't say the same for cucks like (You) who consent to getting raped in the ass by spyware rootkit anticheats to play aaa multiplayer garbage online

>>717663385
>Afaik AMD eventually resolved that with Agesa firmware updates.
Yes, they did. AGESA 1.2.0.7

>>717664984
>turn on option to prevent rootkits
>YOU GON' GET ROOTKITTENED 4 DEWn DAT LAWL

>>717663664
It’s the depressing brown gritty realism. Battlefield 3 and 4 looked better by having more colour and contrast.

your source is an indian video which doesn't even mention secure boot? are you fucking retarded?

does enabling TPM actually cause fucking 3ms lag system wide? wtf? are there other benchmarks of this?

>>717664895
it literally says
>secure boot and TPM 2.0 are required to play the game
ea isn't sending its brightest pajeets

>>717665084
Note the screencap was in Swedish, which means OP is likely Indian.
>>717665117
Oh, so you're required to play the game. Considering you don't play games and you phonepost, that's going to make it difficult for you.

Why are secure boot and TPM le bad?

>muh 3ms lag
.

>>717665060
>prevent rootkits
it prevents any unapproved bootloader or OS from booting ranjit
yiu can see the harms brought on by secure boot on mobile, where you can't run root your phone or install custom ROMs with updates after your phone goes EoL

>>717655932 (OP)
Gaslighting pdfs ITT.

>>717665236
>yeees goy just turn on the DRM chip on your computer that locks out 99% of linux distros and custom kernels
>the same DRM that causes banking apps to refuse to work if you're rooted (i.e. have admin access)
your propaganda is not gonna work here rajesh

>>717665314
>HERP DE DERP I WON'T ADMIT IT CAN BE TURNED OFF FOR TERRORIST OSES EVEN THOUGH TERRORIST OSES LIKE UBUNTU AND KWAMEBUTUHAMAS4LIFENIX SUPPORT IT

reminder that any device or measure that helps anti-cheat companies is also aimed at stopping mods and piracy

>>717663664
Graphics peaked with Alien Isolation and that was 11 years ago

>>717665632
I own that game and I'll never play it because you keep shilling it.

>>717665473
The absolute state

>>717665774
But...you've already bought it

>>717665870
And I won't play it. I technically have 2 copies because my brother has it as well.

Why do we care about 4ms

>>717665917
Then my shilling has worked...you spent the money anon

>>717655932 (OP)

Kek, no TPM and Secure boot for the Arch chads. I don't need Battlefield 6. Not my problem.

>>717655932 (OP)
>Look up video
>Over a year ago
>Literally has nothing to do with tpm or secure boot
Ah, how I love falseflag niggers

>>717666075
low iq retard

>>717666562
>Looking up facts
>Low IQ
Kill yourself falseflag nigger

>>717663358
I'll bite. Can you say beyond doubt Windows couldn't pull some shit through SecureBoot and/or TPM where it could check stuff like pirated games etc. to see they're no-no files and block you from accessing them or worse?

>>717664670
For what purpose?

>>717664481
It's measuring systemwide lstency numbnuts

>>717668282
The only way they could do anti-piracy measures is by enforcing the MS Store only, and they realized that would be death (and another round of antitrust suits). It would require every application to be signed by developers, and it would prevent you from compiling your own programs in Visual Studio, as you'd have to get them signed to run. Patches would be delayed until signatures could be obtained. That doesn't even count the whole fake Pluton image meme that linux fats post all the time, where they claim a movie was prevented from playing because it was a pirated copy.
It's more trouble than it's worth. It doesn't benefit MS, and only harms them. MS wants you to run Windows. They give it away for free now. Locking it down with draconian shit like that not only will get them back in court defending themselves, but it'll cause a major drop in their install base.

>>717665471
Gaslighting jew

>>717665481
Hows the weather in Tel Aviv?

>>717667093
Your mother didn't breastfeed you, did she

>>717668594
I can almost guarantee you're not American. Most of you /pol/ faggots aren't.

>>717668643
I know for a fact tha5 you're either jewish or a goy that has been completely mindraped. Terrorist operating systems, linux? Fascist retard.

>>717668727
>I know for a fact tha5 you're either jewish or a goy
>I know for a fact that this roulette wheel will either land on red, black, or green
>runs linux
You poor, nigga.

>>717668771
I use windows, low iq idiot.

>>717668838
why do wintards always sign their posts

>>717656267
>anon taking this opportunity to tell the class about his scat fetish

>>717656579
>>717656758
It doesn't. You're right for not being a schizo. The cheating industry makes a lot of money, enough to make it worth spreading FUD over security measures that will make creating cheats harder.

>>717657550
That guy just instagram posts himself smoking cigars constantly but his reviews are shit, he fucking pisses me off but there just aren't many places to talk cigars.

>>717669053
Game got hacked in less than a day dude

>>717669672
link

>>717662832
You expect the anti cheat to see in the future to detect all cheats?

>>717664652
Only controller but you can spoof your kb&m to be seen as a controller.

>>717673863
why do they turn it off for kb&m? they say it'a not cheating so it should be available for all control schemes

>>717656230
>Linux user
EA will just drop support for Linux

Problem solved

>>717674761
That's windows, Ranjeesh. The game already doesn't support linux.

I disabled secure boot
t. Linux Chad

>>717673714
I expect it to be better than existing anti cheats If it's going to ask for concessions on my part. Only honest players are being negatively affected

>>717675230
Only cheaters would complain about anti-cheat. You're not a dirty cheater, are you?

>>717655932 (OP)
Just fucking turn on secure boot. If not for yourself, for the kids so they don't get traumatized. Have a fucking heart.

>>717663192
just ask yourself what do you have to gain from enabling secuck boot

>>717659929
Do you have any idea how fast 3ms are there is not s chance you could notice the difference

>>717676116
You retards used to not even notice vsync lag (over 30ms) before someone told you about it

>>717655932 (OP)
>kernel level anything
nah bitch I'm cool

>>717655932 (OP)
bricking your rig for strong wimin battletroon slop that will be dead in 6 months. have we hit rock bottom yet in gaymer iq?

>>717676476
>bricking
>I got an error message, so I threw out my PC and got a new grape one

Why do big cuck corpos insist on matchmaking and invasive anti cheat arms race when we could just have community servers
It's literally cheaper for them

>>717665065
>Battlefield 3
>more colour and contrast

>>717656259
Plugs in XIM

>>717665473
You know whether or not Linux kernels will boot with secure boot on depends entirely on whether you signed your kernel?
Linux users and not knowing how their own system works, name a better combo.

>>717665065
>Battlefield 3 and 4 looked better by having more colour and contrast.
What the FUCK are you talking about man BF3 and BF4 were smothered in endless filters and ruined by them.
The people on this website really spout the most retarded woman tier shit because of old good new bad don't they?

>>717678716
>whether you signed your kernel?
the corpos will not accept just any signature
you also need to sign all modules, so say goodbye to dkms

>>717655932 (OP)
>channel about tech
>can't even make a proper graph
Where are the units? What is it comparing 8 vs 12.4 oranges?

>>717665065
>BF3
>a game with a color palette composed entire of shades of blue
>more color and contrast
classic failed normalfag thinking the slop of 2011 is any different from the slop of 2025

>>717655932 (OP)
>these 3 milliseconds are why I'm shit at the game

>>717678981
>sign the modules
>keep using dkms

to all the linux user, please support operation harsh doorstop it doesnt require kernel malware and you can host your own servers with mods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUR9L29yvq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1d5WhfCKyY

>>717655932 (OP)
how the fuck does secureboot add more latency? i thought it its just a way for you to not dualboot linux

>>717656134
>>717656202
>retards think you cant cheat on console
kek

>>717682570
dual purpose malware

>>717682570
Enabling secure boot in Windows also enables some core/memory isolation features.
It's kind of like when there were those patches to address the CPU speculative execution bugs, suddenly every OS was slower unless you disabled the patches.

>>717679114
>complains while he is not even able to read
Classic

hey look, so basically i'm just not gonna enable TPM or secure boot
haha just not gonna do it. i'm sorry!!! i know i know hahaha...
ugh just not gonna use it at all... HAHAHAHAHA

PS5 and Xbox series X don’t have this problem

>>717655932 (OP)
>Decide to might as well try the open beta
>Secure boot required
>Okay then, I enable Secure Boot in the BIOS and restart the PC
>...
>Motherboard starts beeping at me and the monitor gets no signal, likely a conflict with the GPU
>Can't even see the BIOS to disable Secure Boot.
>CMOS reset didn't work
>My CPU lacks integrated graphics, so I can't try my motherboard HDMI slot.
Welp...I know that I can only blame myself for being a casual retard, but still...what the fuck?
Are they really requiring their normie customers to change their BIOS setting, potentially bricking their system, just to play a fucking game?

I think I'll have to buy a cheap CPU that has integrated graphics, just so that I could potetially access the BIOS.

>>717680682
>implying corpos are gonna accept signatures from nobodies
it defeats the entire purpose of DRM and anti-cheat if cheaters can sign their own drivers you stupid retard

>>717686965
bro i can't believe u actually trusted the shills
In case u were unaware bf6 hype is all manufactured

>>717656134
Based remember people against secure boot are like niggers against metal detectors

>>717686965
>Are they really requiring their normie customers to change their BIOS setting
No, if you have Windows 11, Secure Boot is a requirement to install it. This is only affecting windows 10 retards who refuse to upgrade or those who tried to hack their OS to make it more "private".

>>717687586
And cheaters lets not forget that. >>717687478 /v/ is brown enough to use aimbots

>>717680682
>>717687303
>warning: replacing the PK (platform keys) with your own can end up bricking hardware on some machines, including laptops, making it impossible to get into the UEFI/BIOS settings to rectify the situation. This is due to the fact that some devices (e.g. GPU) firmware (OpROMs), that gey executed during boot, are signed using Microsoft's key
secure boot might as well be malware at this point

>>717658945
Correct

>>717687303
Wow, someone should tell Microsoft that Windows should only accept things signed with the MS keys and not MOKs.

>>717687478
>yeeees goy support the DRM that blocks competing operating systems and unapproved drivers
>just keep enabling all those settings that allow our privileged anti-cheat rootkit to run unimpeded and prevent you from even checking what it does

>>717663358
Your shit is compromised 6 ways to Sunday no matter what.
>>717663664
BF1 looks and plays better than 6 I just played them back to back

>>717687882
>Sir niggers keep stealing from the store, can you please empty your pockets?
Sure no problem
Only a faggot or nigger would be upset

>>717687882
just read your loli rape doujins on another pc lil bro

>>717687845
if you don't control the platform key then you're a fucking cuck
stop telling people to accept getting cucked you mentally ill sick degenerate

>>717687368
>bf6 hype is all manufactured
this

>>717663664
This is the result of outsourcing "talent" to the third world.

>>717688041
K... KEEP ME POSTED

>>717687986
>comparing a person's computer to a store owned by someone else
>random theft analogy which has nothing to do with playing a game
you have the deductice skills of a toddler

>>717688041
How about no keys?
Secure boot has no place in a computer.
If you need security you can just encrypt your SSD

>>717688359
Whatever you say nigger. Maybe get another pc and use DMA cheats like an adult

>>717688502
*rootkits your UEFI while you're shopping*

>>717688061
This thread is honestly insane.

>"WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT THIS? ONLY A CHEATER CRIMINAL SCUM WOULD CARE"

Coincidentally they all jump on that same narrative.

>>717656160
Signed drivers and dma cards work for any cheat scenario. When the driver is signed it's part of the OS. There's nothing what these corporations can do about it.

>>717687478
>bootlicking secureboot supporter also loves security theatre bullshit IRL
you faggots are insufferable

>>717663192
They're almost definitely shills.

>>717689001
Exactly. Which honestly blows ass if you're a pc player. The platform is fucked however the secure boot requirement stops 95% of other cheats and broke niggas who can't afford another pc for dma setup.
People bitching about secure boot is both a cheater and poor.

>>717655932 (OP)
That would explain the weird phantom movements I was getting in the game that I thought was the (already atrocious) netcode/"lag."

LMAO, what a shitshow. Doesn't stop cheaters, adds input lag. Good thing I'm going Linux so I'm not buying this shit anyway.

>>717689174
I don't even play multiplayer games

>>717656259
>he thinks consoles don't have hacks
OH NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>717663664
stfu, poorfag

>>717689386
Oh so it is a shill

>>717655932 (OP)
>year of our Lord 2025
>caring for EA shit

>>717687986
>Sir niggers keep stealing from the store, can you please let us install a camera in your home and give us root access to all your hardware?

>>717689435
don't worry, tranny
later they will add tranime characters for you to shill and goon

>>717687986
They're paying marketers to say this kind of stuff now?

>just install the kernel level cheat
Nah

>>717688801
that's what anti-cheat does though?

>>717689659
That rootkits Windows, not your motherboard.

>>717687478
>inject overlay from another machine
>???
>profit

>TPM
>degrades performance
>input lag
>"it'll stop cheaters!"
>cheats out day 1
>performance and input are still worse
>people are still cheating
God damn it feels good to be such an oldfag modern Battlefield is just cawwadooty (big maps).

>>717678879
Isn't left actually BF4? Right was BF3 because it had that blue filter on everything even in the beta IIRC. But BF4 turned off the filter and had slightly warmer colors.

>>717681742
>Project Reality: Squad: Discount version.
No thank you. I want an arcade shooter, not community autism.

Didn't notice any difference in other FPS game I play regularly.

If you want to cheat you disconnect from network THEN boot the game. This still requires you paypig or know what to do with structs and offsets to actually have something to play with. Battlefield is always blighted by cheats both at launch and years in.

>>717655932 (OP)
>3ms differential
literal nothingburger

>>717689659
Anti-cheat is supposed to prevent cheating, not act like spyware with a badge. There’s a difference between scanning memory for aimbot signatures and embedding yourself deeper than most rootkits. Players didn't ask for a glorified NSA intern living rent-free in their kernel space just to maybe stop some guy using a pixel color bot.

>>717655932 (OP)
I was doing some latency testing (button to photon with a high FPS camera) between Windows and Linux because I wanted to make sure by moving to Linux I wasn't getting a worse experience. Windows had secure boot with TPM enabled and Linux had no secure boot at all.
The results between Windows and Linux with a below refresh rate frame cap to stay in VRR window were identical.
Average over 10 tests:
Overwatch 2
>Linux: 11.9ms
>Windows: 12.8ms
Quake 3 Arena (ioquake3)
>Linux: 16.4ms
>Windows: 17.3ms
ULTRAKILL
>Linux: 7.4ms
>Windows 8.1ms
Basically, there was no meaningful difference across the 3 games I tested.

>>717689749
>"upgrade" PC

>it actually just gets worse performance, less responsive each time

PC gaming in 2025

>>717690527
Windows 10 or 11?

>>717689386
genuinely funny as fuck that this image was posted thinking its an epic own

>>717690527
>10% is "no meaningful difference"

>>717690619
Windows 11 Pro
>>717690621
Using percentage differences for values so imperceptibly small has no value.

Incel brownoid poorfag esl indian cope thread

>just turn on tpm bro
>it's shit

>>717691104
Esl poorfag your brown your brown cope cope seethe

>>717691038
Holy buzzwords batman

>>717691038
Not buying your shit game. Should have not lost the battlefield 1 team and double done on woke dipshit.

>>717655932 (OP)
lol
lmao

>>717691289
Bot

>>717682984
It's much harder and more rare

>>717664670
>The polycount is multiple orders of magnitude higher now though.
Ok, and?

>>717691613
Anything past 6000 is just subdivided and smoothed you imbecile. No wonder there is no additional detail if you don't add it.

>>717691038
It's the EA shill defense force trying to cover this up. Secure boot needs to go.

>>717693027
>t. malding cheater tranny

>>717693564
Not buying your game

>rent free trannies seething thread
kek

>>717694005
Cool bots bro. Now post the real numbers

>>717694312
Steam charts says 476k playing atm
You lost
You got raped

>expecting me to fuck with my BIOS settings and risk bricking my $1000+ rig with security/performance issues for something as trivial as fucking battlefield 6 because the devs are incompetent at stopping hackers
Eat shit, EA.

>>717691343
>Should have not lost the battlefield 1 team and double done on woke dipshit.
It was the opposite. EA fired the woke SJW director for the PR disaster that was wokefield 5. He and a ragtag band of cucks went on to make the finals

my pc is fairly new (bought a year ago), if secureboot is so important why isn't it on by default?