This is what your male insecurity caused

good

the only males in gacha games should be rapists, because im not a self inserting faggot

>>717656881 (OP)
mildly based but I'm still not playing it

That's a very good thing but I'm still not playing a gacha

goin' full yuri huh? hmm.. well, if thats where the money is, not getting a cent from me tho

>>717656881 (OP)

>>717656881 (OP)
Damn, might actually play now.

>>717656881 (OP)
Is this a situation where omnipandering actually HURT their bottom line?

>>717656881 (OP)
Wait it has males? Also sauce me up

>>717656881 (OP)
give me linux version or at least put it on steam so i can use proton

>>717657801
Probably dishonest coomers being too vocal though they should have gone full waifu since the beginning desu, it's the worst of both worlds to start mixed then choose a side later

>>717658157
>so i can use proton
Dumbfuck. Lol.

>>717656881 (OP)
Nikke should follow suit and make the commander a woman. Self inserters can get fucked.

>>717658550
Kys yuritroon

>>717656881 (OP)
This is just made up speculation based on a option from a recent survey.
Also on a past survey was gender bent skins. Never happened along with countless other things.

>>717656881 (OP)
Based. Yuri is the best thing that happened to video games after all.

>>717656881 (OP)
I don't get it, why do people dislike males in gacha?

>>717658709
I think trannies are too vocal

>>717658709
Insane incels who need to completely self insert and any males talking to girls in their mind is akin to being cucked.

>>717656881 (OP)
The only male in a gacha game should be the generic looking player character who doesn't speak

>>717656881 (OP)
Never played, the only male i know of is the player character from people posting the cutscenes here, but if there were npc males then im not surprised they are removing them, players don't care for them at all seeing as these games are pure gooner slop.

I don't understand why there'd be guys in these kinds of games in the girst place. Literally the entire appeal is the girls. In what context would there even be a male character?

>>717658852
The game in question launched with multiple female characters being in relationships with male characters aside from the player character.

>>717658709
Gacha players have a high incidence rate of being waifufags, and will throw a shitfit if any 'competition' to their completely fictional girlfriend exists.
At least Arknights didn't fall for that shit...

>>717656881 (OP)
This game had males?

>>717658709
>waifu collecting game
>add extra males
use your brain.

>>717658709
Gay shippers and lesbians.

>>717656881 (OP)
Wait they're actually gonna do it? why couldn't them said something about it in the anniversary? when i wanted to install it, and saw all the males bricking the banners

>>717658981
For some reason fgo and arknights managed to avoid the autism, like they said it's likely some organized raids made by trooncels trying to blackmail companies to remove males for gachas that didn't even start as harem. Everytime they infiltrate some gacha they try to twist it to pander to them instead of just choose a different gacha with females only kek

I assume that monstershit also gets shoah'd?

All i know is that i want to suck the Brown Dust out of her brapper if you catch my drift.

>>717658976
Incorrect

>>717659131
>arknights
Maybe cause fandom is full of wamen who want pretty boys, aka GenShit situation

>>717658269
Didn't the game launch with actual couples that have sex like Grey and Lia?

It's been 5 years and Genshin still solos all gachas.

>>717659257
No. Lia likes Grey and Grey didn't like her back. And lia was never seen again

>>717658709
If a man shows up at a casino, and gambles large sums of money regularly, the casino does its best to make the man enjoy himself, and be comfortable. To a rich whale, every woman is THEIRS to collect. And they are for THEM. No man should fuck their wife. After all, they paid for them.

>>717656881 (OP)
Is that a bad thing?

>>717659226
>Maybe cause fandom is full of wamen who want pretty boys
Nope

>>717659131
>like they said it's likely some organized raids made by trooncels trying to blackmail companies to remove males for gachas that didn't even start as harem. Everytime they infiltrate some gacha they try to twist it to pander to them instead of just choose a different gacha with females only kek
Literally the opposite, we used to be happy with our Azur Lanes and Girls Frontlines, meanwhile Girls Frontline 2 triied and failed to get into shipping and Azur Promalia got caught trying to get into shipping.

>>717659554
Who are the 21% men that play Infinity Nikki?
That has to all be desperate sexpests hoping to get with one of the female players.

>>717659226
You do realize a lot of men are ok with cool males right

>>717659613
Gay men

>>717656881 (OP)
Based

>>717659651
Not everyone feels gay everytime they see a male you shut in

>>717657801
It happens more often than you think. WuWa started off as omnipandering and they had a shitton of people quit when they rolled a male character. Genshin also had its worst sales during their omnipandering era in Sumeru.

>>717659613
>cool males
Okay, post examples

>>717659613
I'm White and have a gf so this is true for me, looking forward to Flins and Varka in Genshin.
The "people" constantly seething about males are all dysgenic ricecels.

>>717656881 (OP)
Is this frame part of a gif or series of images?

>>717659131
FGO is probably old enough to avoid the new wave of gachaspergs and Arknights never really focused on (You) pandering which helps deters the megasperg at the gate
>>717659590
they might just wanna dress up cute girls
I'm more surprised by the 11% on Love and Deepspace, thats shit is a pure woman game

>>717659613
>>717659742
That's because those are casual players who don't overthink shit, a lot of companies want these because they want the genshin money but as soon as they fail they larp as "ackshtually we were always hecking fellow coomers"
Kuro still tried to stealthy pander to women by paying arknights artists to make wuwa fanarts, then you have shits like love and ddeep space being even more popular than HoK at some point

>>717659131
FGO is 10 years old, by that point coomers were able to tell fiction from real life and understood FGO wanted to have a good long VN part where your hysterical figures constantly interact between them, without that they would fall to even lower standards.
>>717659885
Women are the ones who draw fanarts the most. It's basically free marketing.

>>717659590
Probably pooners, flamboyant gay men/drag queen, and chads who just enjoy cute things.

>>717659613
Maybe as npcs, but i don't want to expend my sheckels in a slot machine for it to give me unwanted moids

>>717659590
Same ss PTN

>>717656881 (OP)
As in it's like nikke with a self insert guy as MC that fucks the girls or turning it into a yuri game?

>>717660268
the former

>>717660268
The latter.
>how do they reproduce?
magic

>>717660268
>nikke
>former commander has fucked the most popular squad
lmao

>>717660313
Futa magic

>>717658709
>why do people dislike males in gacha?
Male characters attract an audience type you don't want because the game's direction can be affected by these types of terminally online social media brained outrage gooners.

im still waiting for the dickgirl on female gacha

>>717659727
My FUARKING Hero...

The problem with mixed toiled gacha is that you share the community with women. Just look up the QueensOfGacha subreddit aka r/gcj but for mobage and see how absolutelt spiteful and petty they are for straight males having any kind of pandering.

>>717660413
Is not from a gacha originally, doesn't count

>>717660413
But that's Archer from popular Visual Novel Fate Stay/Night and not some random gacha male that only panders to women?

>>717660413
I dont mind fgo males because they already have established irl myths and most of them are cool. Males in chink gacha always reek of yume pandering.

Males in gacha are only ok if they are for (you) as well. Something like your best friend who is also gay for you. And a femboy/trap.

>>717660426
aren't femcels just mirror copies of incels?

>>717658709
I'm not gay.

>>717659719
just let people chose wich gender they ant to roll

>>717660401
>>717660508
We get it, cocksucker, you're gay and an attention whore and possibly a closet tranny
Now go play Love and Deepspace, a perfect game for a homo like you

>>717660590
>femcel pandering gacha
ew

>>717660268
except none of these self inserts have fucked the girls.

>>717660590
ywnhgf

>>717660508
FGO has tons of males that aren't for you, and in fact, has multiple married couples (Sigurd and Brynhild, Siegfried and Kriemhild, Consort Yu and Xiang Yu etc.) and characters with existing relationships that prevent them from being 'for (you)' (Circe being attracted to Odysseus, Xu Fu being attracted to Consort Yu etc.). In most of these cases they're both separately playable units and everything.

It works out fine as long as your audience isn't autistic (enough).

>>717660660
SKK has had consensual sex or been raped by a number of nikkes at this point.

>717660590
electiontourist meltyyy :3

>>717658709
It attracts cancer fanbase
The only gacha games that should have male characters are 1v1 PvP gacha like Epic Seven, where the aspect of 1v1 PvP and the thought of opponents spamming ras laugh at you when you make stupid play automatically filter out those kind of people

>>717658709
Haremfags are so insecure they see the when any of the girls interact with male NPC, even if they're family members or colleagues.

>>717660381
This is the real reason. "Hot" male characters attract psychotic women and fags, they cause tons of trouble in the community, will openly harass the devs and other players, and are far more likely to shit up the place then hop over to the next game.
The trend of gachas dropping all male units for an all-female cast is moreso devs wanting to avoid that social minefield while also attracting the stable straight male audience that just wants to collect waifus, will cause almost no trouble, and will stick with the game for years.

>>717658550
I unironically dropped Nikkei because no lesbian commander option

>>717660497
Yeah, imagine they design a male character straight out of xianxia novels. Hell, now I imagine a xianxia gacha instead. China got cool shits like that lying around but most of their high budget games are just uninspired copy of Japan's.

>>717660872
See >>717660790 and dbz gacha
You can filter out those type of people without the need of only releasing waifu characters

>>717660881
Good, you are a minority and as soon as you get into something you scare the rest of the fans away

I saw they're thinking about gender bending some male characters, but wouldn't it be like putting trons in the game? instead they should change them into cutie patootie femboys

>>717658709
>roll banner for waifu
>see legendary drop
>card flips
>its a obese bara man shitting his pants
>stop playing game

>>717660872
But then they should remove the femc too since that attracts the tranny audience (that almost murdered ba)

>>717660707
>gay gets called out
>starts to throw femcel insults
Like I said, a cocksucker and an attention whore

>>717659727

>>717658709
they are deranged

>>717660872
Then go back to making cool male characters and not blatant fags meant to appease women and gay men, you fucking retard. Why is this such a hard concept? If you're going to commit male erasure then don't even bother having a story

The only time I'm okay with male characters in a gacha is if they're big wolf dudes like in Horizon Walker but even in that the rare ones let you turn them into women and grope their tits when you massage them.

>>717659719
>Genshin also had its worst sales during their omnipandering era in Sumeru.
That's just not true.
>Sumeru wasn't an "omnipandering region", the whole game always had mixed banners. Sumeru had primarily male character banners, period. And was followed by primarily female banners for 2+ years
>it didn't have the lowest sales, that's Natlan, because the game is just old

>717660775
>tranny calling anyone tourist

>>717659727
Dude in the middle is consistently one of the strongest fighters in the game. He stands there reading his paper until he's told to do something, at which point he starts clearing half the screen. Also has a sweet Polish accent.

>>717661015
There shouldnt be an avatar at all. Old gacha had the female characters stare directly at the screen because they were supposed to be talking to the person beyond the screen, (You).

>>717659742
Literally me, word for word.

>>717661073
He has cute ears and tails
Can I touch them?

>>717660268
Both, but add some male npcs who ask the girls to meet them in private while they blush

>>717658709
Consider the evolution of the genre

>Genre has a focus on appealing characters, which often means sexy designs
>The more you try to appeal to one gender, especially if you lean into sexiness, the more likely you are to scare off the other side
>as a result the 'sexier' gacha games become primary focused on appealing to one gender (LADS to appeal to women, Nikke, Brown Dust, Azur Lane for men etc.)
>since they're fairly unashamed about appealing to one gender they lean more and more into that
>eventually the games to appeal to men have no male characters
>playerbase gets used to this
>grows an autistic subgroup of people who become bothered an time males are involved in the story
>games now actively have to consider whether they should include men interacting with the characters at all

>>717659131
FGO and Arknights exist on their own merit and have built up their own world and never chose to appeal too heavily in just one direction (they might have some lean but yeah). And once you're established and have an audience, any sperg is just gonna get told to fuck off.

I always wonder, what is it with male playerbase that none of the games have anti-shipping rules like Love and Deepspace
Is it insecurity? Or yuritroon is actually a higher portion of male playerbase compared to fujo in female playerbase

>>717661157
>Consider the evolution of the genre
No, it's just Genshin being the towering World of Warcraft of modern gachashit and hanging like a spectre above it all. Genuine girlfriend casino simulators have always existed, it isn't a modern phenomenon, but they were low effort and had a niche audience.
The allure of Genshin tier revenue and popularity is too strong, but it's hard to maintain a mixed gender game that is more than a relationship sim without attracting schizophrenics from all sides.

>>717658976
The game in question almost died after launch because shipfags bought nothing. No shit they pander to those who pay the bills.

>>717661325
It died because the name is retarded and also had a "2" making people think they need to play a first game
Imagine if Genshin was called "Honkai Part 2"

>>717656881 (OP)
It's too late. Way too late. They need to end BD2 and make a new game. People don't want to pick up a gacha that's 2+ years old. That's the double-edged sword of gacha. You make a lot of money off FOMO but that FOMO simultaneously destroys your prospects of long term growth.

>>717661228
Based of them really, has a game ever told yurifags to fuck off?

>>717661397
They should have made this a new game instead of a prequel/sequel. They should also have chosen a side since the beginning since males are still there, you please no one

>>717661228
Check out dungeon meshin fandom and fanarts dying off quickly since Yuri trannies harassed all the artists that drew the guy with a woman.
Also having old men thinking they are women constantly talking about how queer everything is make people leave

>>717661263
Nta but befor Genshin, FGO already proved that mixed gender gacha with no particular romantic pandering was extremely profitable.
Most chinese gacha however were by far girlfriend sims. Some like Azur Lane were satisfied in staying in their lane and remain niche, but the allure of money and fame was too irresistible for other chink devs

>>717661397
>mfw Brown Dust 3 gets excreted

>>717658709
Because gacha males are "husbandos" designed exclusively to appeal to women and faggots. People also don't want their waifus to be romantically and/or sexually be involved with a male characters.
No one would have issues with male characters that are made to be cool and badass to appeal to normal men as long as there is no shipping in the story but that doesn't really exist in gacha.
Why doesn't Love and Deepsace have gacha waifus that are shipped with the husbandos?

>>717661517
But isn't fgo full of pairings? A lot of the servants had a husband/wife or even flirt between them

>>717661228
Snowbreak has, actually a group of shipfags and yurifags got banned from the official discord for it and expend months planning to take control of it and ban everyone like some cartoon villain, and ridiculously it worked

>>717656881 (OP)
Didn't they already stop making banner males? The story was okay when I was playing though, it was cool when the MC went edgelord mode for a chapter

>>717661571
I mean between the characters and the player.

>>717661395
Why did it revive with the mention of no more releasing of all male characters from now on then?
People with all these mental gymnastic should just ask themselves 2 simple questions:
1. What kind of people who spend $1k+ on 3d models?
2. How is a business relying on those kind of people sustainable?

>>717661395
Yet none of that stopped the people who currently pay the bills. I wonder who the devs care about. Now keep crying like it’ll change anything after all these threads are the only pastime you got,

>yuricuck game
troon grim is the protagonist male at least?

>>717661616
>>717661630
So how come it's still low in the charts?

>>717661517
>FGO already proved that mixed gender gacha with no particular romantic pandering was extremely profitable.
The thing with FGO was that servants were "allowed" to interact with each other, SOME had canon relationships with each other, and SOME were MC pandering, hence the Master Love term.
The thing is with modern chinkcels and gookcels is that they demand ALL characters are EXACTLY like this in every game, ALL must be obsessed virgins for the MC's harem, even when it was explicitly not advertised as that on the box.

>>717659727
Pic related made himself a mpd schizo because he cannot forget anything and felt four personalities could find the meaning of life faster. Bro gets a chapter to himself in a predominantly women gacha and is his own bossfight. Gameplay wise his ult is a turnrepeat

>>717656881 (OP)
Wait is she straight up eating the other girl’s pussy?

>>717659131
FGO is from Fate, an established IP with an established fanbase and girls in AK are so lacking in sex appeal that the game never attracted waifufags in the first place. It's not rocket science. If you make a game like BD2 and make a bunch of sexy female characters, don't get surprised when people play it wanting the game to ONLY be that.

>>717661683
It's extremely hilarious with wuwa where characters barely even interact between themselves kek Most old anime wouldn't survive with the new gen

Is Limbus Company the only gacha game that gets away with having males?

>>717661683
>even when it was explicitly not advertised as that on the box.
Like what?

>>717661682
Love and Deepspace is constantly top 3 revenue every month though
Or using your logic, are female audience more desperate for parasocial relationship than male audience?

>>717661735
>FGO is from Fate, an established IP with an established fanbase
This

>>717661683
They're going to retcon the milf sexo out of Alice so chinkcels don't skin cats, and I'm going to be sad.

>>717660381
Honestly this. I generally don't mind male characters but I'll have all of them removed entirely if it means getting rid of the mentally ill freaks the fanbase becomes infested with by allowing them. ZZZ focuses on it's waifufag audience and has by far the best fanbase of any Mihoyo game. It just works that way.

>>717661756
I mean Limbus isn't exactly a romance pandering game is it? I never got that vibe to begin with

>>717661696
Surprised people are okay with men in reverse1999, but my guess it's because that game is technically FGO where you go to other Eras/places and recruit people with magical power, even Verin organization is basically just FGO organization.
I think as long as you make the story interesting you get less autistic people in your fandom

>>717661696
It's a shame this game went full femcel pandering. It launched with a nice roster of classy and sexy women but then they kept making broken husbando after broken husbando while they completely desexualized all the women.

>>717661756
No, but it’s one of few

>>717661830
Have you seen the community for 1999? It's mostly women. Of course they'd love for male characters.

>>717661760
>download game with male characters in it
>seethe that male characters exist
>have thermonuclear meltdowns if one exists in the same room as your jade like beauty virgin hebe gf because your brain just generates imaginary NTR 24/7

Just make MC an actual character

>>717661517
FGO will always be the exception to the rule. It's the Pokemon of gacha games thriving entirely on pure brand loyalty and 0% on any actual intrinsic merit. Everyone who isn't deranged agrees it's one of the worst gacha in existence.

>meanwhile the most profitable and oldest games have both or just men on the top charts
lmao, know they can't compete so pander to Free to Pagjeets and yuritroons

>>717661879
Are you talking about star rail or something?

>>717661885
Can't have that thanks to selfinserters since a lot of trannies choose to be a girl and can't stand seeing their selfinsert interacting with a male in the story, which is why TB is so irrelevant in hsr now

Maybe the key to all of this, is to make an actual game(or VN) first and then make gacha

>>717661885
This is suicide for Gacha

>>717661821
It has some romance, just not involving Dante so far.

Males are precious

>>717661885
>>717661941
The problem for that is if the MC is too cool, I really don't see myself farming for other characters. Because why would I want random nobodies to outshine my avatar?

>>717661804
Now if only the obnoxious yurifags in the fanbase would fuck off then it would be perfect.

>>717661885
>>717661926
>>717661941
People who say shit like this are usually retards who never actually play pandering focused gacha and just like to make up weird strawman in their heads. People love sensei in Blue Archive and SKK in Nikke BECUASE they act like established characters and not blank self inserts.

>>717661975
As a man, I am indeed precious

>>717661985
This.

>>717661395
Wait, you don't have to? that's one of the biggest reasons of why never bothered trying it or GFL2

Using Love and Deepspace as an example, the correct way to make gacha in current year is to pander to 1 gender only
So either release on male characters or female characters

>>717661735
But even then they would have called fsn NTR since you have Caster being banged by an old guy

>>717662040
No, it's a prequel

>>717662053
Nigger have you ever read FSN? The game is full of NTR bait.

>>717662040
No you don't, bd2 is a prequel and the first game was closed, it was still retarded to add the 2 since it made a lot of people don't bother.
A shame because bd2 mogged bd1 in story and gameplay, they should have just rebooted it and ignore the first game, even Priconne did something similar instead of calling it Princess Connect 2

NTR gacha when?

>>717659727

>>717662104
Gil is literally the stereotypical NTR VN villain

>>717662040
I dropped GFL2 cause of how heavily the story relies on you being aware of the events of GFL1.

>>717662053
Saber, Rin and Sakura, especially sakura, get raped in their routes. That's just how VNs work. With Fate, you already have an audience that is accustomed to that shit so nobody is going to have chimpouts hence everybody just making fun of Mash being wed to some Lion furfag

>>717662063
>>717662127
Would've made more sense to call it Browndust Zero then, imo

>>717661735
AK has plenty of waifufags
>>717661821
i mean the only romance i can even remember is Heathcliffs terminal oneitis so yeah, not really a romance panderer

>>717662104
Yeah but nobody tries to murder Nasu nor take it so fucking seriously while now writers need to walk in some landmine

>>717662213
AK has waifufags in the normalfag way where they don't actually care that much and aren't really waifufags.

>>717662213
Fake and gay. AK is pure

>>717662146
Surprised they never made Sherlock a loli

Ricecels need to have sex.

>>717656881 (OP)
I kind of understand self inserts I mean, If the game let you choose the name of the character, makes the story following you aroud, make you interact with other characters then why are you gonna insert other dude who steals your spotlight?. You should have told the story as third person from the beginning instead of trying to make you believe you are the MC.

>>717662159
>just making fun of Mash being wed to some Lion furfag
What is this revisionism? Mash getting knotted was a massive fucking shitstorm.

Sex with Surtr!

>>717662256
It's the transparency I guess. Right out of the bat, fate tells you that this character had some relationships in the past because they're based on an irl character or legend.
In chink gacha, it flip flops where a character shows interest in (You) then an out of context scene happens where she's alone with a guy having fun and people interpret it as her fucking someone else behind your back.

>>717662256
Damn, it's almost as if the issue is established expectations and not anything wrong with the substance itself.

After the gayshit, bunch of tourists invade gacha space and demand every game to be mixed toilet
They become significantly louder after Gayshit "go back to the root" and release 1 male in 2 years
To deal with them, easily, just mention love and deepspace and how successful it was as a game pandering to 1 gender

>>717661735
It's important to note that AK is also practically non-existent outside of China. AK has no real Global and JP presence.

>>717658709
because they keep making male characters look fucking gay and shirtless

>>717662384
In Japan at least? I don't recall the shitstorm there but global was definitely pissed about it.

esau

>>717662431
But you can't force mixed gacha to pander one side neither

>>717661843
Anon they still release classy women. none of the broken characters are men besides maybe 6 and thats because 6 is a truelimited.
Shamane got powercrept hard and Aleph while fun is one of the weaker impromptu members.
If anything the game went yuribait with picrelated being thirsted on by multiple npcs, while the ruski cinnamon roll cosmonaut gets to have a lilo n stitch friendship with Voyager.

>>717661830
They dont have many and any new guys are ones who were relevant to the plot and mostly good people.

>>717662409
With gacha specifically whenever you see an example of a female character interacting with some male completely out of nowhere with the scene having literally no reason to exist it's actually usually done by some femcel writer adding it out of spite. Why Chink gacha hire woman writers for their male self insert pandering in the first place is beyond me though.

>>717662438
I think Chink AKfags are the kind of purityfags that would be mad at a female character getting a slightly revealing swimsuit so it makes sense nobody gets mad at AK given how insanely sexless it is. AK might honestly be the least fanservice gacha of any of the popular ones it's so lacking in sex appeal.

>>717662286
the guys i follow who relentlessly obsess over Sexas and Blemi say otherwise

>>717661878
Reverse1999 is pretty much fated to pull a reverse Brown Dust 2 at the rate it is going with its audience. Gacha games as a whole will end up specializing for their niches. People keep bringing up FGO, pretending that ANYTHING could have that kind of longterm money if they do everything that does, forgetting that they can just play FGO.

A gacha game that is for general audiences that don't want to just buy a real game already exists for those people. There's not a lot of good reasons to do such, especially in this blatant bubble era where at least 7 go EOS a MONTH.

>>717656881 (OP)
>Nigger asses
More like sad news, brown dust players are... brown

>>717656881 (OP)
Male characters on waifu collectors are not the problem, the "fans" the mere existence of one other than the MC brings are.
They always foul up the fandom, bring an obscene amount of hatred towards the protagonist and at times cause the direction of the game to change.
Just look at Nikke, the game once what people called a Chad of a protagonist, someone who would have enough balls to punch the shit out of a literal murder machine, now is an incompetent coward who knocks himself out running away in fear as everyone makes fun of him.

>>717662627
Hey this summer event was complete dog shit and potentially the worst event the game has ever had but the new story chapters are pretty good at least and have some kino SKK moments.

>>717662485
>>717662409
Oh my god that yoimiya and childe scene in genshit was fucking hilarious
>yoimiya and childe having a heart to heart dialog
>not even a casual discussion in town or at the market no
>but in the middle of a forest under the moon
>tabibito is watching them from afar just standing there like a cuck

>>717662627
See >>717660790
I think it is because the lack of PvP gacha that people have this perspective
1v1 PvP filter out those people really fast

>>717662689
Yeah it's so obviously done intentionally to give that impression. Like nobody actually cares about characters having casual conversation. It's when there's shit like this that is so obviously done to be ship bait. The wanderer/Nahida shit was worse.

>>717662689
>tabibito
who?

>>717662751
Traveler.

>>717662751
Japanese word for traveller. E.I. (you)

>>717662740
Scara/Nahida wasn't shipbait you retard, she was a motherly figure to him.

>>717662740
>The wanderer/Nahida shit was worse.
This was never a thing. It was just a bunch of Nahida waifufag schizos losing their shit that a female was interacting with Wanderer who is the most hated male in the game with male players. They did the same thing when he interacted with Nilou.

>>717662796
(you)

>>717662879
Well obviously everyone hating Wanderer anyway(for good reason) is part of it but the writing was the problem. Nilou shit was fine cause he spent most of that event acting like a shipper. It never gave the impression he was being shipped with Nilou by the writing. That's why the Nahida shit caused a way bigger meltdown.

>>717662796
>>717662879
>>717662740
I think the funniest thing about that is thousands, if not tens of thousands of men just outright admitting that they're jealous than a little female child is not their potential romance option.

>>717662970
Literally only 5 foot small chinkcels had a meltdown about scara, in the west literally nothing happened.

>>717662879
It doesnt matter what the truth was, what matter is that after that, less than a year later started the female characters spam and "back to the roots"
Gacha is a hyper capitalist genre where your voice is only worth as much as the amount of money you spend
There is a reason rest of /v/ look at gacha genre like walking garbage

>>717662603
Forced meme by Nintendo marketers btw

>>717656881 (OP)
There's gacha games without a single woman (think love in deep space) what's the problem with gacha with no men??

>>717662546
AK wasn't always sexless dogshit and it even had lolis but then the women got desexualized as it always happens with omni-pandering chink garbage.

>>717663087
>meme
lol

>>717662689
Holy shit you faggots are mentally ill

>>717663097
Its removing content and retconning instead of having no men from the start

>>717662796
This, but try to explain that to schizos kek

>>717662970
>It never gave the impression he was being shipped with Nilou by the writing
The Chinese schizos were losing their shit

>>717663125

>>717658550
T. Subhuman agp troon

>>717663043
The western fanbase is a non entity. It's just normalfags and woman. That's why the game makes fuck all from the west and all the money is Japan and China.

>>717662627
The more prominent Nikkes in that game are now recognizable enough that Shift Up isn't going to devalue its mascots by having the self-insert fuck them. That ship has sailed, and no amount of bitching from the their least profitable region is going to change that

>>717663165
They're doing that obviously because they see that the only players left playing their game are coomers who only want females. Surveys exist for this very reason.
Devs do read those you know.

>>717663125
You literally spent years praising Nintendo for pandering to big asses till the competition started doing the same

>>717663113
>Ch'en Alter
I actually remember there being controversy over her design being too "sexy".

>why are men against omnipandering I don't get it

>>717663252
Emma is one of the most recognisable characters in the game and she literally just got an alt where she gets dicked in her bond. That was YESTERDAY. Please stop talking about things you're clearly ignorant about.

>>717662970
I quit this dogshit game after they paired nahida with that faggot. Im never playing unfinished game ever again so they can just butcher and add shit to my waifu.

>>717662796
>>717662879
You can't reason with chinkcels

>>717663324
>Foids have it easy in irl
>men are constantly kicked down by those same foids
And after all this they dare invade OUR spaces, i hate them all and i wish bite their throats out of their pathetic weak bodies in gta v

>>717662879
Chinks are so insecure they are trying to make Justia to be born by some fruit or some shit and requesting to remove her father, that's right, they insecure about her fucking father KEK

>>717663312
Chink AK fans are completely mentally ill and were proto-lefties. They were partly responsible for the heavy censorship in gacha today. They first started with GFL1 then Azur Lane. They perceived every other gacha having a sexy character and the audience celebrating about it as a direct attack against them so they would mass report these gacha to the CCP and get them censored. At least back then the censorships only affected the CN servers like with Azur Lane. Now most chink devs just do self censorship before the CCP forces them to.

>>717663064
>There is a reason rest of /v/ look at gacha genre like walking garbage
/v/ look at normal games like they are ready to don their klansmen hoods and set up burning crosses on their porches. Most of the opinions are not worth talking.

>>717662689
>>717663147
I have no stake in Genshin ship drama or the like, I don't play it (I'm a FE Heroes player). I do think the NTR watchdogging in the gacha space, especially among CN communities is strange. It's a strange purity culture intertwining with (you)-bait and it is kind of distressing, especially for games with no marriage/promise-esque mechanics.
That said, you gotta admit that it is kind of a weird scene. Even in context, why is the Traveller just...there?

>censorship
Is it? Everytime coomers claim for more fanservice they just ignore those games. There is a reason coomer games are so niche
Remember the bikini schizo? He didn't even support Edens zero with all the lolis and bikinis
More like tame designs attract more cosplayers and casual players

>>717662559
>Nasu: What can I say, CBC is always a special challenge to the writer. "Do your best, but you get no map, limited assets, and can only use the people picked for this banner. Good luck!" (laughs).
>Takeuchi: I considered having that as a costume, but it was so well-drawn that it got me thinking the Lip fans deserved better than giving them only a Spiritron Dress and calling it a day. I refused the costume so we could release her as her own Servant.
Even FGO treat girls like second class citizens no matter how hard people try to cope and act like it's somewhat balanced.
*CBC is their yearly White Day's event.

>>717663481
Nigga you play FE aka an ip where you need to ship women with other men

>>717662140
genshin

>>717663441
In case you havent noticed, most normal people dont spend $1k+ on 2d/3d models
The entire gacha genre is an exploration of mentally ill people
The debate is about which kind of mental ill have the most money to exploit

>>717663481
>>717662689
That scene was a wink to Rawfler, a youtuber that makes a lot of exe with mihoyo (and other gachas too), someone in Mihoyo loved his videos and one of his videos lore was Childe bullying and Yoimiya being cucked by having to compete against Raiden, so both become friends or some shit, no shipping, people takes everything too seriously, it's like feeling cucked because females are interacting with Dante and Vergil in pgr now kek

Okay saars quick lesson, how can we tell if this is a reddit thread?
Simple just look at all the foids and faggots crying about le "chinks" being insecure and shiii nigguh

Fucking normalfaggots just go back where you came from

I just want to explore in Genshin with my gf, leave them fuck alone chink schizos goddamn.

>>717663064
Let's not pretend like this board has anything resembling good taste.

>>717663125
portugal nooooooooo

>>717659590
I play Snowbreak and Infinity Nikki. One has cute girls, the other has a cute girl I can dress up and take photos with. Just have fun.

>>717663125
>>717663238
>brown people like blacked and big asses
Thanks for the heads up

>>717663717
*leave me the fuck alone

>>717662384
Was it? I fucking hate Mash because she's a boring piece of shit. I'm sure most people didn't care

>>717656881 (OP)
>remove males
I will believe it when I see it
>devs promise no males ever again
>repeat the same line for months and months
>new collab
>hey guys guess what! new male collab!
>devs even talk about wanting more male collabs like the witcher series
not to mention all girls in the story sucking Gray's dick.

>>717663848
>he hates Geralt
brown

>ITT resetrannies seething that men want male spaces

>>717663848
Isnt shart dust a literal ntrshit, i heard you pair (your) waifus with random men, this cant get any gayer i feel dirty typing this shit out.

>>717663848
>all girls in the story sucking Gray's dick.
>t. retard that doesn't play the game

>>717663924
Why would anyone play your ntr humilation ritual besides few mentally ill cucks like you.

>>717656881 (OP)
>makes all the characters girls
>sudden trans influx

>>717663924
>>717663914
Yeah BD2 has literally never been a waifu gacha game. It's a coomer gacha game.

>>717663924
yes yes dont make me take out screenshots of every single girl in arcs 1-14 lusting over his cock, you ntr slurping retard

>>717663598
Guilty as charged. Didn't said I wasn't a goofy-ass shipper.
Just that, even with knowing the context of gacha gamers as a whole and how pandering makes cash, the weird nature of anti-NTR rangers and them being EVERYWHERE otaku-adjacent is exhausting, even if I was 100% against cross-gender interactions.

>>717663685
That answers one question, but not why is the Traveller just sort of hanging around there.

>>717663848
Glad at least one person this thread pointed out this is old as hell news. Hell, no one even pointed out the survey post where one of the options was gender-bending the two main male MCs.
It's amazing for as blatant and doormattish the BD devs are, they are also insanely cowardly.

>>717663924
Not him but I (and most others) dropped this dogshit game on launch because of the rampant shipfaggotry.

>>717664014
At least you admit you're talking out of your ass

>>717658709
I don't play gachashit, but I imagine when you're whaling for waifus you don't want to be throwing money at some pretty boy faggot for fujos.

>>717661073
Surprising that they didn't give him a sabre as a weapon

>>717664050
>why is the Traveller just sort of hanging around there.
Because chinks are lazy to animate

>>717657027
This but the opposite.
The only males should be rapist since I am a self inserting faggot

>>717664034
No matter how much you sugercoat it its still game for cucks

>>717661498
>since Yuri trannies harassed all the artists that drew the guy with a woman.
Did that actually happen?

How do we purge foids from our hobby once and for all?

Hey maybe if all of you pro-homo fags actually opened your wallet instead crying about chinks and self-insertfags you wouldn't lose all of your games.

>>717664169
I wasn't sugar coating it. Nor was I ever disagreeing with you. There's no waifufagging hence why the players are willing to put up with blatant cuck shit so long as there's jiggling ass and tits in their face.

>>717663326
>one of the most recognisable characters in the game
sureee super recognizable right after Rappi, Marian, Anise, Neon, Scarlet, Redhood, Rapunzel, Dorothy, Cinderellas, Grave, Little Mermaid, Crown, Leviathan, Behemoth, and Modernia. Might've been recognizable back in 2022 when they were going for the harem angle and first had the players fuck her, but she's barely a blip in Nikke marketing in that region if you've paying attention

>>717664208
How am I supposed to know what this chart means?

>>717664208
So how come lads and mixed gacha are still the most popular

>>717656881 (OP)
So it's just yuri now?
Picked up.
If it's just harem, then.. that's good too but might as well play an eroge instead

>>717664230
Valid nigga

>>717664293
LaDs only panders to 1 gender tho
See >>717661228

>>717664309
Hows your agp going ?

>>717664293
lads isn't mixed you stupid nigger.

>>717664351
>>717664385
NTA but he's obviously talking about two different categories here you stupid fucks
>LADS (focused on women)
>mixed (focus on everyone)
To mean that the one category not listed (focused on men) is the lowest.

>>717659590
i'm more concerned about the males playing love & deepspace

>>717664458
Because that isn't true?

>>717664503
I don't care if it's true or not, I'm just passing the message.

>>717664458
The one he quotes is about self-insertters
And LaD is the ultimate self-insert game, being otome dating sim and all that

>>717664458
There's no LADS equivalent for men, not that it would be allowed to exist

>>717656881 (OP)
I will honestly drop it if it happens I like Lathel

>>717664208
So adding naked women improve sales, where's the part that the sales improved thanks to removing couples and males from story? None. Because it didn't happen yet.
Your theory falls apart like the self confidence of a purity nigger when you see a male

>>717664183
Exaggeration, but not by much. Definitely remember a strong influx of western troons after the anime dropped and them harassing a lot of the Laius x Marcille fags out of the sphere, calling them homophobic for not believing in Falon x Marcille more.
There was a clear shift in the fandom as the anime progressed and people getting absolutely obsessed with Farcille, to the detriment of literally everything else.

>>717664293
Going by last month's Sensor Tower results (if you believe such and not treat it as fake numbers), the Top 10 games are L&D (single gender), Genshin, Honkai, Uma Musume (single gender), NIKKE (single gender) Shadowverse, and the rest being IP gachas. So while it is a healthy mix between mixed gender and single ones, I suspect they are more popular for specific appeals in their respective genre niches or brands over gender-biases.

>>717664293
>So how come lads
LaDS is literally male Snowbreak/ Nikke.

>>717664765
You either never played LaDS or Snowbreak/Nikke

>>717664765
Nikke has 0 actual romance.

>>717664719
>Uma Musume (single gender)
pretty sure you can choose your own gender in this unless they took it out for the globo release for some reason

>>717664802
Crude example sure but I meant mono-gender self-insert game with player pandering focus. I'm a Zaynefag and Calebfag in LaDS, and a Fennyfag and Katyafag in Snobble. Quit Nikke when they started going back and forth and wishy washy during events, and the Crown bond fiasco.

>>717664547
you mean something extremely corny and focused on romance? it probably doesn't exist because there isn't a demand. men are culturally more interested in having boobs and asses shoved in their face than face-zoom and flirting

>>717665013
>it probably doesn't exist because there isn't a demand
Women literally Snowbreak be banned for the scenes of the player putting a wedding ring on a woman's finger.

>>717659590
I'm one of them, me and my male friend share our Nikki looks with each other all the time.

>>717665013
That's not true at all. People hate the new Nikke event despite it being insanely full of sex appeal because there's no romance progression. People don't just want sex appeal, they want romance as well.

>>717664925
In nikke when you go interact/advice your waifus some random faggot from past starts interacting with your waifus(redhood anni thing if you know you know), when usually its just (you) and the girl you advice.
I used to cope and not think about this but not for long, HOW do nikke faggots tolerate this shit or its not a joke that koreans are literal cucks.

>>717656881 (OP)
test

>>717664932
I'm only going by the actual units than the MC, else that would make L&D mixed.

>>717665013
I mean, that stuff does exist. That is just the archetypical dating sim ala Tokemeki Memorial and LovePlus. Plenty of gachas from Blue Archive to Horizon Walker blatantly have romance mechanics inherited from those games (though no risk of getting social pipebombs in your mailbox for daring to talk with another girl) I just think males value "gameplay" more, a way to past the time alongside the romance. They want the feeling of earning bread on the table for these girls, over the raw emotional connections themselves. Hence gameplay in quotes, no one is playing these games for engaging mechanics...

>>717659554
lmao that sounds like bullshit, how is 40% of honor of kings female? it's literally just mobile phone league of legends

>>717659554
Reverse 1999 bros....

>>717665013
Except anytime we get things like that, femoids go nuclear. Localizers barely even localize male-oriented dating sims. Look at the PSP/ Vita. For every one male dating sim, they would localize ten otome dating sims.

>>717665013
You're incredibly out of touch if you don't think there's a very large subset of the male population that wouldn't spend ungodly amounts of money in a LaDS version with cute girls, especially in today's dating climate. The only reason it will never happen it's because feminazi groups will be on it like hyenas.

Do feminists really have that much power in asia? Why?

>>717665013
Anon, Chinese and Korean women are literally trying to get jobs in Snowbreak's dev team to sabotage it. A few months ago a woman got hired, and snuck a Tiananmen Square reference in the game and reported it to the CCP.
You want to know why we can't get male romance games? This shit is the reason.

>>717664719
This chart is fucking retarded because it combines all revenues.
Libtards keep using Love and Deepspace as ammo against waifu games but that game is a colossal fucking flop outside of China. Literally like 98% of its revenue is from China and what you need to understand is that China has an unusually large fujofemcel market. China is not indicative of the rest of the world.

>>717665258
>I just think males value "gameplay" more, a way to past the time alongside the romance.
you do realize lads has combat where you kill shit with your husbando, right?

>>717659554
Is the female fanbase of r1999 normal or mentally ill though

>>717665429
>wanting games to cater to men alone instead of catering to both men and women is feminism

>>717665484
LaDS isn't fujo, the guys don't interact with each other outside of very rarely passing each other. LaDS is a romance game with a female-only MC and all interactions are 1-on-1 between FemC and the love interests.

>>717656881 (OP)
when was the last time there was a male amyway

>>717665546
Women HAVE their games though. But women demand that male-only games should be banned, Why should women have the authority to ban a genre?
I don't like gay games, can I have those banned?

>>717665547
Fujo is a derogatory term for femcels invading video games and anime.
>b-b-b-b-b-but that's not the origin of the word!!!
Shut the fuck up fujonigger and fuck off back to the kitchen.

>>717665484
Doesn't the revenue chart website literally artificially inflate numbers from every Chinese gacha too?

>>717659719
>omnipandering era in Sumeru
Disingenuous as fuck. Sumeru was a region of males. There was a period of time where the game went for more than a year with only a single female banner and she was intentionally designed to be bad on top of being censored. That's not omnipandering, that's being fucking retarded.

>>717656881 (OP)
Made for BWC

Male characters in Hoyo games are funny.
>this character has 20 hours of story exposure where he becomes the main character and hijacks the plot and the plot is about how awesome he is and he's actually god of the setting and he has the most meta skillset in the game and the next 1-2 years the combat will be around him
Zhongli and Phainon and Nuevi and more.

>>717665695
Because a lot of people chose the female mc and they don't want their selfinsert to interact with a male in the story

>love and deep space has better marriage system than all of gachas. Even Azur Lane's Oath system btfo by a fujoshitter game by a million miles
Why can't we get a good marriage system on our gacha, bros? The femoids are eating good with this one.

>>717665429
They're weirdly well-organized in the stories I've read. There was one about some event with anime goods being sold in KR, and all they all started spamming nearby police stations to report the event for selling obscene goods or something. And there was that time in China when they reported some gacha game for being vulgar and had it censored.
Basically seems like old pol raids from the stories I read

>>717665013
I would whale so god damn hard for a gacha that goes all in on self insert romance, not just look she points her feet at the camera or jiggles her tits some times trash but like point of view bonding scenes with ASMR quality whispers saying she loves >(me) with kisses kind of deal.

>>717665625

>>717658852
Fujo freak. Thank God trannys are destroying your spaces.

>>717661228
>4. BL content associated with the game prohibited
Huh. If only there was such rules in gacha games that have a male audience. No Yuri rule would be nice.

>>717659554
What is path to Nowhere?

>>717656881 (OP)
meanwhile we, yurichads love males in our yuri games!

>>717665625
No it isn't you fucking retard. A fujo is a yaoi shipper. Someone who likes men on men. LADS is literally the OPPOSITE of a Fujo game. Call them femcels like everyone else you retard.

>>717658709
Because the market is what it is and you're retarded for trying to force anything else
Even if you look at fgo, it has plenty of male characters, even plenty in canonical relationships with other female characters, but the bottom line is people STILL do not want to pull males unless they are extremely meta and broken, and in that situation they still don't want them they just feel obligated. It's that simple
Every single player of any game who is like "oooh male character gimme" "oooh male swimsuits gimme" is a retard that the playerbase in general hates, it is the same kind of person constantly bitching and making 3 page posts about how it's awful that the game doesn't support gays or doesn't treat its gay and female players well enough blahblah.
No game community wants these people, they want them excluded if anything.
Your job as a developer is to evoke x/y/z feeling in the consumer so they have a good time and want to keep playing. Your male characters do not evoke any positive feelings, they almost entirely evoke no feelings whatsoever, pure indifference, or negative feelings when you get these shitters instead of cute girls and have to listen to them
Gfl2 is the peak design, every male in the game is nothing but an npc who take up 2% of the screentime, every doll is a cute girl who is hyper devoted to the commander. Design is win win all around

>>717659727

>>717659719
>WuWa started off as omnipandering and they had a shitton of people quit when they rolled a male character
Slightly different issue, Lingyang isn't hated because just because he's male, he's hated due to being a garbage character in the beta that existed to spite self-insertfags, and the hatred for him carried over. He's a shitty shota and unlikeable too, so people would dislike him anyway.
But the seething hatred comes from his role in the beta where his entire role was to shit on the player super hard. WuWa's whole CBT did that with characters trying to murder the main character even after proving his innocence like with Sanhua, but Awuu/Lingyang was so spiteful (and he's a guy) so any attempt at redemption failed. They even replaced his backstory, design and more and it did no good, people were too angry.

>>717665812
Shut the fuck up fujonigger and fuck off back to the kitchen.

>>717665786
how do you even enforce that

>>717665625
your retard ass using the word in the wrong context w/o knowing the actual meaning doesn't suddenly redefine it

>>717665761
Good Eroge vns already do that, minus the gambling

>>717665834
Yeah, every time people point of FGO for a male character selling it's literally one of the hyperlimited hypermeta characters that the entire plot is centered around for that chapter.

>>717662159
Saber and Rin don't get raped lol

>>717665898
Shut the fuck up fujonigger and fuck off back to the kitchen.

>>717656881 (OP)
Picked the fuck up

>>717665669
I think that was more like the start of fontaine, partly the end of sumeru though, and cause so many male players to leave that dawei went on stage to cry and beg for them to come back, since then it's been a 8 female 2 male release schedule, as it should be, sumeru in general I feel like was a pretty even split

>>717665429
Asia as a whole, no.
China, that's just more the CCP getting in the way. Less any one socjus group, moreso the state wanting to flex its control over people. See their mandatory game review program.
South Korea? Explaining the gender politics that goes in that hellhole would require far more time and multiple threads. Everything about that country is a fucking parody of a western nation, so naturally the gender wars is some insane shit. Like a feminist cult grooming one of their president for decades.

TL;DR: never support a porn ban

>>717665484
Again, Sensor Tower tends to be fake as hell, but given how there's good way to visualize the monetary success of gachas, we take what we can get. I rather have bad data than no data or people just talking out their ass at what works.

>>717665502
Misspoke some. Wasn't trying to talk down to L&D, moreso saying males like to crunch the fake RPG stats and spreadsheets alongside being ASMR'd by their waifus.

>>717665429
Did you miss the part where feminists were caught having connections to the government in Korea and the ability to censor games in China? It's ludicrous.
And the entire Korean game censorship board got fired on corruption charges in the end.

>>717665931
They do both get molested tho.

>>717665802
Context?

>>717658709
This doesn't have anything to do with gacha itself. The issue is the presentation of the medium along with monetization methods target very specific types of people.

Self-inserters are typically very pathetic, lonely and mentally ill but they're also typically the ones who are willing to drop the most money on the product. This is why it's not uncommon to see massive backlash from these people when the character they like gets a little too close to another character. It threatens their self-insert. This is the same reason why it's such a taboo in the idol industry to be in a relationship. This is why the biggest paypigs for streamers/OF girls/whatever are always the pathetic parasocial freaks who feel the need to dump their personal life in donation messages as if anybody gives a shit. Self-inserters are, simply put, less than human and easily exploited. That's why it's so easy to get them to part with their money.

>>717657027
Addendum: Male rapist monsters are fine. Like goblins and orcs and that sort of thing.

>>717656881 (OP)
is this that cuck game mc's girls fuck other men in different timelines?

>>717665968
>sumeru in general I feel like was a pretty even split
Sumeru is a funny case where I think it was rewritten, during Fontaine's time, the guy voiced by Sasuke was shilled super hard and even had official art of him being romantic with the shark tribal girl. And then it came out and they barely interact and he barely has a role in the plot.

>>717658709
Anime Males are unrelatable fagboys and take away from the main appeal

>>717666020
Heaven Burns Red is an ACTUAL yuritranny game (not a waifu game with no males) but then they introduced that male character.

>>717665968
nta but is that the time when they released a bunch of male characters in a row, teased a new character wearing garterbelt that got everyone excited for a female character, but it ended up being a male wearing a garterbelt?

>>717666089
Yup.

>>717665695
I give Zhongli a pass because he kind of make mc grow a bit in character but Kazuha was an attempt to replace traveler

>>717664952
Pretty based.
I would quite willingly give LaDS a try if it had a male character option...

>>717665968
>I think that was more like the start of fontaine
It started with Sumeru and bled into Fontaine. The start of Sumeru was fine but after Nahida it was a sea of males with the only female release being an intentionally gimped and censored failure.

>>717666020
Yuri game added a guy, he died immediately.

>>717666096
>the guy voiced by Sasuke was shilled super hard and even had official art of him being romantic with the shark tribal girl
Things that never happened, they showed up together in some art because they were the first two banners of Natlan and they're supposed to be friends thats it. Of course schizos gonna schizo. He wasn't even shilled more than other characters, meanwhile Mualani got an animation.

>>717666165
Wait he died?

>>717666089
My favourite is the gacha animation where you watch the waifu you just pulled get fucked behind your cuck window.

>>717662295
They made newton a cute girl but never sherlock

>Every male character in gacha games is fujobait or a twink
Wake me up when there's a gacha that lets me roll male characters that look like this

>>717665801
Arknights clone, replace cute kemonomimi guys and girls with menhara prisoners and slavery aesthetics.

>>717666089
No, this whole drama is because the devs don't want the self-insert to be able to cuck shipfags so self-insertfags want to get rid of all males to be able to fuck any girl they want

>>717666123
everyone was aware that lyney was a guy, I don't think that in particular was ever a controversy, aside from people saying that a fuckboy in garterbelt is pretty gay, but there was a year where they only released males, and dehya who had (and has) an absolute dogshit useless kit and they censored her ass too, the next female character was furina, but that along with the wormvilette shilling made a lot of people quit, and then natlan was very clearly a dogeza from mihoyo begging male players to come back, with only releasing 1 male five star and 6 female 5 stars while killing off one of the male characters in the story that people were expecting to be playable, nod krai likely will have a few more male 5 stars, but still 80% will be females

>>717658709
Gachas are often marketed as hot sexy waifu gooner games while slowly reducing the amount of female characters to make male ones. It is a vessel to appeal to the wider audience (female) to earn more money while reducing the amount of female chracters to push weeb's tolerance to male characters.

>>717665761
>trashu

>>717659719
Oh brother, look at Natlan. The Archon's rerun -- the most shilled and busted character to date -- was one of their worst selling banners ever.

>>717666162
I don't have the exact time in my head but for me it felt like it started at the end of sumeru and persisted through most of fontaine, but maybe that's just because I wasn't really paying attention at the end of sumeru and I was looking forward to fontain so I remember being mad at fontaine more than ignoring the end of sumeru

>>717665896
Fuck if i know.

>>717658550
Based. the more girls the better

>>717665761
Fgo got lucky they paired the mc and mash immediately, that make them avoid the whole waifu collector drama

>>717666341
thanks anon

>>717666242
>waifu
God, i hate you fags, using the word waifu like that.

>>717666391
It was just the first pic I found that looked sort of relevant to what I was trying to get across.

>>717666540
Don't tell them to stop it's a good identifier for nornalfags

>>717666540
maybe his waifu is a whore?

>>717666306
so the game has self insert mc and other males characters who have romance with girls? why even have self insert character in the first place?

>>717666541
semi-related, I know I got really giddy hearing Arona say your username out loud. Smart play giving that power to an AI girl, but I do wish more games capitalize on that.

>>717666625
It was added a year later due to demands from the Asians, the game originally didn't have one, they also toned down and even removed some of the shipshit after said addition

Which gacha had the main girl screw some other random guy and the asians went bananas?

>>717666283
in brown dust 2 there this guy but he is low rarity

>>717666756
GFL?

>>717665896
something ip law brand damage
just do what disney and nintendo are doing

>>717656881 (OP)
So /v/ lied to me when they said it's only for survey?

mental health welfare for gacha addicts doko

>>717666756
half of them in the entire gacha market

>>717666541
But did you have that trash picture anyway? There are so many good female Fate characters and you choose the worst!
>Kayoko
I forgive you

>>717661228
>BL content associated with the game is prohibited
Holy fucking based, Fujo get fucked lmao.
t.yuribro

>>717666816
No, OP is the liar.

I self insert as Balrog cat fucking the Almighty banner women

>>717666756
FGO Mash got fucked by a lion

>>717666924
So? Saiba fucked a dog.

>>717666283
There was one. It EOSed.

>>717666906
Damn, I didn’t do the survey so I wasn’t aware. So they want to add Justia and Sherezade

>>717666391
Is she talking about (you) or Mash?

>>717666756
cuck grand order for sure

>>717666906
too late op version is the truth now

>>717656881 (OP)
>That
>[Sad News]
You're gay

>>717667160
The story rewrite part is true at least.

>>717667087
Retard

>>717666283
I'm not fat or bald so I wouldn't whale

>>717658709
I don't mind them so much because they give me time to save as I don't roll them. Usually the male characters are lame looking to me. Look at Varka from genshit. I thought he was gonna be a cool old dude but he ended up another pretty boy. I like a lot of male anime characters, yu yu hakusho is one of my favorites and that has mostly male focus but Kurama probably looks more manly than 99% of gacha male twinks.

>>717666924
>>717666391

>hate males and gacha that have them
>cuck fetishist
seajeets

>>717666283
Play FGO

>>717667328
What are you trying to say, ESL?

>give her the coolest or sexy design possible
>not for you
>ugly Takao servant
>For you
Thanks, I hate it

>>717659554
>HOK that balanced
is it good for a mobile moba? I've tried mlbb and LoL, the former is just 1v5 op shit and the latter well... lol

>>717667398
The sexiest design is very for (you) though

/v/ lost

But all the coolest looking gacha characters are men.

>>717665013
holy fuck I didn't know you could be this out of touch

>>717667507
is that her clitty?

>>717667507
True, when are we going to replace Trashu with Kuro or any of the good ones?

>>717659554
No one has pointed out the source is literally Chinese Tiktok...

>>717667328
SEAs are the biggest self inserters. Just look at reddit that's full of SEAs pretending to be mutts or euros

>>717665695
A big part of this is that Hoyo games don't make the MC awesome in gameplay because the unit is free while the FOTM male is shilled super hard. It's on the devs themselves imo. If you are gonna have males; you have to make sure they do not outshine your self insert protag

>>717667572
It's literally there on the pic

>>717667261
Kek, just like that doujin with Gil

>>717656881 (OP)
malebros...

>>717667635
And no one bothered to point this out. The data is completely irrelevant to this thread.

>>717667643
why are all fate mcs cucks?

>>717667261
hot

>>717667693
*cuckbros

>>717656881 (OP)
Anyway, how far does this game get in terms of nudity and camel toes? And in what context?

>>717659554
Based on tick tock accounts lamo

>>717667746
Game?

>>717667746
Still below LO but maybe it will get there... maybe

>>717665834
The only male I swiped for in FGO is Oberon. You have to make them that tier of good to sell em.

>>717658550
BASED
GENTIANNE IS GREAT

>>717667713
I don’t remember the Extra/Stella mc being a cuck, dont know about remnant game

>>717667746
What game

>>717667818
LO?

Is there any gacha or anime vidya with confirmed genuine het romance between in-universe characters? Ideally, normally written, without ntr-bait.

>>717656881 (OP)
Lmao isn't this that NTR game? Glad I stick with Wuwa

>>717667869
Your servant fucks rin/rani while you watch.

>>717667918
No.

>>717667943
Holy kuro marketer

>>717667869
>I don’t remember the Extra/Stella mc being a cuck
There is a mandatory NTR scene in EXTRA.

>>717667907
LastOrigin

>>717665968
>>717666341
So that's what happened....they must have been insane to betray their player base like that

>>717667853
Oberon is based

>>717667943
no lil bro thinks wuwa is better

>>717667713
Nasu is a self-admitted cuck. It's also why FSN was originally going to be an otome reverse harem game.

>>717667981
Cope shill

All gachas would benefit from an Oberon-like character being added

>>717665509
Any gacha fan base is me tally I'll
R1999 is no different

>>717667954
>>717668001
Shit, I never played extra because hardware limitation (didn’t have a psp), only extella so kind thought it was the same

>>717656881 (OP)
>no males
based af. Gushing over Magical Girls Gacha when?

>>717668048
it was more like a gradual creep, they were aware of their playerbase at first, then gradually started leaning more and more towards fujo shit, until it reached at boiling point at fontaine which caused a massive loss of trust from the male playerbase who left in droves, people were unsure what direction natlan will be so most people stayed hands off, then now that it's over it's clear that it was a dogeza from them begging male players to come back so there's a bit more trust now that they won't backstab the male playerbase again but it's still not back at 100%, natlan was a sacrificial lamb to show that they repented and fixed their ways, now some people will come back for nod krai but then if they spit male players in the face again there'll be no second chance no matter how much they beg

>>717667818
I need to know if there scenes where the characters are actually naked, maybe covering themselves with an arm or towel and if the context of the scene is sexual

Also I need to see all camel toes scenes

Don't ask why, but I need the information

>>717666393
That's because Natlan's gay traversal gimmick is dogshit and no character, no matter their design, is ever going to be worth pulling when they're built around it. I have never hated Genshin more than when I played Natlan, and I fucking despised Fontaine.

>>717666026
Imo; it's precisely this lack of respect that causes the problem. Companies love the money brought by self-inserters but plenty of chucklefucks like this guy see them as less than human. The moment one of the devs think like that and start subtly/openly screwing over the self-inserting in the game is when the trouble begins. Companies should respect their customer; not just love their money.

>>717665834
FGO is also the only gacha game where SSRs get their own banner. Don't want Gilgamesh? Then don't roll on his banner, roll on Scathach's instead. Every other gacha just has Gilgamesh and Scat share the same banner.

>>717668473
???
All hoyo games do this too

>>717668080
>Says the kuro marketer

>>717668345
Closest we have is Onsen Ventana and Liberta. Check the mega link in the /vg/ OP.

>>717668473
lmao what, every gacha game that I ever tried had characters with their own banners, what kind of delusion is this, and fgo is the worst because it doesn't have a pity system, you can roll 400 times and not get the character on the banner if you're unlucly, in most gacha games you have a pity where you're guaranteed the character on the banner at 150-200 rolls

>>717668473
FGO is worst because they put the 5star craft essence in the servant banner instead of being separate

>>717666495
The founders and their top writers loves making couples in the game. And they make so much money isn't an issue anymore so they don't have any incentive to please the purity schizos

>>717668596
FGO does have a pity system now and has for a few years on both NA on JP. The pity system is just utter shit because it follows the old Japanese standards for pity aka 330 rolls for a one time guarantee. There is also no carry over so it's 330 all or nothing.

>>717668590
Ok, thanks

>>717668473
Putting aside shipfaggotry and the fact that 9/10 omni-pandering games censor their female characters to appeal to the female playerbase, my main issue with faggy husbandos in my gacha games is the team-building aspect of gacha games.
>oh you don't want this faggy twink? that's okay but he just so happens to be a create support for that waifu you love so much... would be a shame to skip him and make your waifu 5 times worse as a result
If you didn't have to build a team, there wasn't shipfaggotry and female characters weren't getting censored as a result of omni-pandering, I would even welcome faggy husbandos because that would just let me save money and rolls.

>>717668698
I guess that's better than nothing lol but still in hoyo games soft pity is at 70 rolls and then it's a coinflip, so at worst you'll have to pull around 140 times for a guaranteed pity, and the pity carries over, so if you spent 100 rolls and didn't get the character on the banner then you can just roll 40 on the next and you'll guaranteed get the next character, I don't know in what world did someone think that character banners only exist in fgo, especially when it has the stingiest gacha system on the market

>>717667869
>I don’t remember the Extra/Stella mc being a cuck

>>717668283
Reception for Nod Krai seems to be quite good (at least from the perspective of a westerner, idk what Asia/CN is thinking) and the first time since... 1.0 maybe the male characters, Flins and Varka actually look like cool dudes that male players might actually like without them being fujobait. We'll see though if that ends up being the case, could be like an Alhaitham situation where he had universal appeal until literally the end of the Sumeru story when they revealed his faggoty roommate made only for ship bait.

>>717668663
I see that a failsafe, you can develop multiple relationships for example Nikke with Milk, Pepper, etc but eventually if you want to move on those character you already have one designated love interest

>>717666924
Mash explicitly rejects the lion in the story though...

Can't they just make a gacha where if you pick a male character its het and if you pick female its yuri?
Is that so fucking hard?

>>717657801
It's more about them starting off normal and then going the hypercoomer route once they realized that was giving them a shitload more money because before the game was kind of generic, but now it's a paradise for the degenerates, so they're adjusting to their new normal in order to keep milking that cashcow.

And hey, if it works, it works. If you can successfully pivot from one thing to another, more power to you.

>has men
>They're all robots or animals
>Troons can't shit post ntr without resorting to beastiality which they hate or robot fucking which is stupid
>Get best of both worlds and degenerate zoo lolifags can still make the girls fuck dogs, everyone wins
Did they do it best?

>>717669312
You're making two different games at that point so you'd be better off just... making two different games.

>>717658709
Why would you want to see another man fuck a girl?

>>717669312
No, fuck off with your omnipandering dogshit. People are sick and tired of it. People want games made for men and men alone.

>>717669416
God, Biribiri looks so shit in that style.

>>717668283
I started Genshin with Natlan and I'm happy with my harem so far. It was a great experience imo. I probably would have dropped after the fujo pandering if I had started earlier though as I am a self inserter. I'll see where this leads I guess. I think Nod Krai looks good but I am not excited about the dudes.

>>717669315
This
story started with you being an observer and nothing more but the animation, their fem designs it was a no brainer not milking that. One of the reason the gluppi dinner was created, you can everyone there for example bunny morphea is not the same one of main storyline so it make sense what they want get with the survey.

>>717669550
>omnipandering
? Yuri IS for men

>>717669000
they're putting lauma's huge honkers and damselette in the center light so that's a pretty clear sign that they're trying to please male players, nicole and nefer are pretty random but they're cute too so it's fine, now the question is what will they do with alice, they might want to appeal to male players by getting the cold feet and making it so klee is her clone or something instead of being an actual daughter, that she gave birth to, after getting impregnated by a dude, but I think a lot of people are asking to just keep her as klee's mom instead of some lame retconning, I don't think male players will be particularly outraged if they just released a playable single mom, because at least everyone is aware of that alice is supposed to be klee's mom, at least it's not some rugpull where they release a virgin waifu and then it turns out later that actually she has been getting dicked down, but we'll see, I'd still bet my money on retconning and making some shit up about how klee is not her actual daughter but like a clone or made with magic or something

>>717669664

>>717669715
Oh it's this trad again..

>>717669715
>guy sees two cute girls together
>starts thinking about trannies
what causes this? Why are you so obsessed with seeing another man fuck girls?

>>717669312
An interesting idea would be gender bender every character according to the gender you pick.

>>717669664
I have a penis abd want to fuck anime girls, fuck off. Not see two of them act like femoids

>>717669769
>trad
*tard

>>717669664
I despise lesbians, they are always mentally ill. One of the girl in a lesbian couple is always masculine. There's zero chance they'll ever go out with the self-insert character

>>717669625
yeah I think people who started with natlan had a good time, if you started in fontaine it would be fucking grim, but dawei crying on stage wasn't enough for people to come back, people wanted some proof that they'll really pander to male players again, and now natlan showed that, at least for now, the start of nod krai looks promising so unless they pull a bait and switch in the second half it should be fine

>>717669840
I also have a penis and want to fuck anime girls, I also want to see them make out, fuck off

>>717669840
So you have a penis... and therefor you want to see another man fuck an anime girl?

>>717669891
>I despise lesbians, they are always mentally ill.
Stop talking about irl

>>717669695
Klee already has a voiceline that mentions her mom and dad so if they retcon it, they'll have to change this voiceline. My bet is just that they'll never mention Klee's dad at all ever and it'll just be one of those random loose ends that will never be addressed, much like every Teyvat Travel Guide after Inazuma or where the Gourmet Supremos went.

Yuritranny shipfags and hetero shipfags are both mentally ill and need to be purged.

>>717668463
Don't shoot the messenger, he's just saying what everyone thinks.
And yeah, the companies should make the hardest effort to keep their whales trapped in their Skinner box as happy as they can. That doesn't mean every other human has to respect whales at all.
And you can argue that everyone has questionable hobbies you can make fun of, but when yours is spending thousands of dollars on softcore porn, then you're on the lower end of that totem pole.

>>717670020
Find a girlfriend and stop fantasizing about having a pure harem in game

>>717670020
You can pinpoint when this brown underaged retard woke up, lmao

>>717656881 (OP)
I will now play your game

>>717670020
I implore you to stop getting involved in shit that doesn't matter to you

>>717670067
Find a girlfriend or boyfriend and stop trying to live vicariously through fictional relationships of fictional characters. :)

>>717669508
Is this an actual porn game?

>>717670007
anything can be retconned if they want to, her "dad" could also just be some dodoco plushie, it's just a matter of whether they're scared of releasing a canon non virgin playable character or will try to keep the lore consistent

>>717669975
He's into that shit

>>717670161
Now you're projecting. You just leak your own reason about why you dislike seeing your waifu talking to another man

>>717656881 (OP)
Is this real? I can't imagine the game without Lathel and Gray

>>717662327
bd2's story is told in 3rd person, you're watching characters (yuti, lathel, shera and gray) deal with shit, there is no (you) in the main story. also, this thread is kind of misleading, no one (outside of faggots) wants male characters on banners, the problem is that the devs are considering rewriting the story to remove the already established male characters, or not including male characrers in the future story, which is retarded, the characters having relationships and potentially romances makes them more interesting, and there's also the fact that they released the mother of one of the 2 MCs (fmc, yuti) as a playable character, and in her story chapter, she, obviously, has a husband, that's where i think all the sperging is coming from, since there's also another part of the game (glupy diner), where some girls will be introduced and the stories there are self-insert stories, where you interact with the girls, but the devs don't want to add girls with canonical relationships in that mode, so some people are sperging over male characters (in the story).

>>717670267
They'll get turned into girls buhihihi

>>717669896
Yeah I had a wonderful time. I love my Xilonen. Really loved the Citlali waifu pandering scenes. I love Mavuika's cleavage and fat ass. I noticed a lot of older characters do not have sex appeal or are too covered up so I'm not really interested...

I wanted Ganyu, Eula, Shenhe and Hu Tao but they are either powercrept to hell and back or censored in Shenhe case or off model from fanart in Ganyu case...

Old Genshin probably wasn't for me. I am quite happy with Lauma's design. It's looking good so far. I also love that all the Shades are hot women and Ronova in particular looks great.

If they ever slide a knife in my back and ruin all the hot women; I will just fall back on ZZZ or WuWa instead...

Hahaha it's looking good. Golden age of self-insert waifu pandering!

>>717670267
It's real, go in the game and fill in the survey. A purity schizo infiltrated their company and is pushing them to pander to schizos

>>717670451
More girls is good

>>717670352
Fucking based devs

>>717670491
Kill all males is bad
Except the ML fans

>>717670375
I was thinking the other day that if I started playing in natlan instead of at release then I probably would've made mualani my main waifu and invested a lot of resources in her, but I already have so many characters that I invested in that I just couldn't be bothered at this point, I do wonder whether they'll make the shades playable or not, or at least ronova, the powerlevel difference between little child who collects herbs in the mountain and the GOD OF DEATH among playable characters would be pretty wild, granted there's already a big powerlevel difference with mauvika and ei being playable beside yaoyao or fucking diona

>>717670648
Whats ML

>>717670648
Turning the male characters into cute girls is better tho

>>717661005
fgo is still going great though

>>717670352
not enough agp content

>>717670875
It's fate.

You know as someone who don't really play much gacha I have no skin to lose in this game but wouldn't it have been better if the male character is well liked enough by the male fanbase that they still rolled for them. Like I noticed Oberon was super well received by both male and female player with the latter getting a little bit of yume pandering and the former because he's really well written and cool looking.

>>717670796
Master love

>>717670025
The argument then is it ethical for society to allow addicts to be exploited? Its one thing for tobacco and alcohol to be allowed but its also another when Elden Ring on its launch year, in total sales, made less money than Genshin Impact that same year, also less than what FIFA Ultimate Team makes every year for the past 4 years.

>>717670025
I disagree. Why should it be any more targeted by scorn than "accepted hobbies"? I love the idea of a self insert harem fantasy. If devs pander to me then I am happy to support them, if not then I take my money elsewhere. That's economy at work. If you offer me what I believe to be a good product; then of course I will buy lol.

>>717670163
No

>>717671078
no cap, nust let me be a childless wierdo like other folks in other hobbies.
Whybis my pandering gambling worse than another?

>>717671078
What is the market for these self-insert-harem gatcha? Indonesia? Because its not Japan, least not anymore.

>>717670918
The staff did not understand male lovers. FGO has writers and artists who know how to make a successful male character and they're passionate about it. You gotta have yume fans in the staff in order to pander to yume fans

>>717671198
China

>>717670721
I wanted Mualani but I grabbed Raiden instead. I became interested in Genshin in the first place because the Raiden Character AI chatbot was one of the top popular characters.

I would love playable shades but Lauma is already super hot so I guess it's okay even if it takes years for them to be implemented. I'm happy so long as I get more waifus for (Me) with sexy designs.

ZZZ and WuWa also are going in that direction so it's pretty great. It's only HSR that is omni pandering but that's a weird autofest game anyway.

>>717671196
>no cap
go back

>>717671409
You drive away the youth you'll get your bot boosted dead site unc

>>717671602
The site is already 90% Israel posters/bots, we dont need zoomer vomit on top of it

>>717671198
It's everywhere retardbro. Mostly concentrated in China and I would say Japan as well has many no matter how disingenuous you may be about it. There is a reason Blue Archive is so successful over there.

>>717671196
You don't even have to be a childless weirdo to be into this stuff. Having a haem of pretty girls you are loyal to (You) and only want (You) is the fantasy of every hot blooded man ever. This has been the case for all of history.

It's perfectly normal to indulge in the fantasy of such things with the interactive medium of video games. Femcels and Puritans weirdos just don't want you to have this pleasure so that demonise it is all.

>>717671381
true, I like raiden too and I invested a lot into her when she was released, but granted she was really strong at that time, by the time mualani came out I think raiden was already powercreeped, and while I like raiden I think mualani's design is a lot more sexy and in general gives better girlfriend vibes than raiden, and of course mualani is a lot stronger as a main dps than raiden, and when I first start playing a game I invest into main dps first, raiden is a lot more flexible as a support but I don't think I'd invest hard into more of a support type character that's 2 tiers below mualani in dps output

>>717670352
>>717670451
I really liked that character pack with Lathel and Lecliss...
This world is so fucking gay.

>>717671871
>likes men
>not gay
pick one

>>717671786
Let me guess, you seethe at yuri

>>717670352
Holy shit tranny game

>>717671871
it will be yurikino now

The older I get, the more cringe harem gacha feels. I like good VNs with many characters. Gachas are just soulless money printers that force you to get hyped for the next unit.

>>717672125
Gachas in general are dogshit anti-videogames and dont belong on /v/. only retarded zoomers push them

>>717671828
I don't really invest; I just pull the character and I'm using Battle Pass weapons to cope for lack of gacha weapons lol. I can clear Abyss 12 by doing this but not Theater because I don't have a bazillion built characters lol.

When I started it was a little different from me as I wanted to increase my wold level ASAP to be able to get mats efficiently but I didn't have the mats necessary to build a team that could let me beat high world level on the first place....I was able to get around this problem by building Hyperbloom with Raiden as the driver since HB is only reliant on a single strong character.

This worked and I got to high world level and built up my chars so Raiden ended up being a good decision early on desu. Nowadays I just use her as sub-dps. I use Mavuika and Skirk as my main dps. They are too busted for older characters to compare to....I might grab Mualani since a rerun is coming soon but it's gonna be a dickroll if it happens.

I think Mualani design is beautiful but Raiden is awesome as well. I'm really glad that this game became bold enough to have open cleavage and fat ass now.

Lauma looks really good...

>>717672076
>Oh god no! n-not more women!
Gay

>>717656881 (OP)
Lol, lmao even

>>717672331
>That were men before

>>717670352
Self-insertfag to troon pipeline is very real

>>717672125
I'm half and half on this, I realized that alot of bitching and moaning against harem come from woman and faggots that was using criticism against a rather low brow genre to worms their way in the hobby, I still think this is slop but sometimes pigging out on mcdonald is just fun for the soul.

>>717672331
I bet you choose the femc because you are unable to accept women simping for you, tranny

>>717672357
Its changing the canon, it's not tranny shit retard

>>717670352
Literally why not just make a new gacha? Make bd2 offline version then some new gacha with the females only

>>717670350
I was talking in a more general way. I saw the survey and I can get it were are they are going. They definitely want to put justia over there specially after her premium skin

>>717672259
I played nikke for a while but it got too embarrassing to play.
>a ton of these super hot women want you and only you and only you can save the world retard kun
But it isnt me in the story. I just want cool characters. Tits are nice but this all female stuff is boring eventually. Call me gay but gacha is just boring.

>>717672425
I choose femc becasue Anime boys are faggy looking twinks

>>717672436
Ok tranny

>>717672357
Retroactive gender bending, its the new way company can act like they always want that primo virgin money and not some omni pandering garbage.

>>717672532
Seethe more, brownoid, go jerk it to your femboy trash

>>717672519
Ywnbaw

>>717672058
It can be okay when done right. I'm okay with the Astra - Evelyn relationship in ZZZ.

That's because I love both characters though. And they are written in such a way that (You) do not feel like a 3rd wheel.

But yes generally, yuri is a turn off. Ideally, I want to be the number one special person for a waifu that I am pulling for, like Morgan in FGO calling me her husband. Spending my hard earned gems on female characters that would place me at number 2 or below is foolish to me. Why would I do that when I could spend them for a woman would places me at the 1st place of her life? It's all just a lovely fantasy in the end. I want a harem fantasy experience where all the girls love (Me) and are crazy for (Me).

>>717672591
Thank god, but YWNBAM

>>717672583
Are you saying you don't want to imagine those women fucking you?

>>717672402
Im not gay or a woman. But eventually I just started craving something more substantial. Junk food is probably apt. I dont get how people can obsess over it 24/7.

>>717672674
Porn pics can do that, self insert in-game bullshit is fucking cringe

>>717670991
Never said it was ethical, don't get it twisted. Alcoholics and tobacco addicts are as low as gacha coomers are on the totem pole. Ultimate Team spenders are even lower that that for me.
>>717671078
You're free to waste your money on whatever you like, man. That's what it is for. Just don't be surprised nobody's praising you for said purchases and actively make fun of it.
If it makes you happy, that's already fine.

>>717656881 (OP)
Already uninstalled the game, really disappointed with this decision...

>>717672757
You yuritards selfinsert as a girl though

>>717672791
Lol fag

>>717672609
There is not (You) in ZZZ. The player character isnt the player.

I'm a white transbian woman

>>717672757
Based truthpost

>>717672058
I respect the NAP, I will not go into the signalis thread or mahoako to bitch about yuri, I dearly wished that yuritroon don't go into my thread to bitch about how my game is a incel pandering coomer game and I should go outside and touched some grass.

>>717672832
Self inserting is cringe period and yuri was always for men, cry about you puritan faggot

>>717672791
Same

>>717672943
Yuri is a tranny gender, don't try to fit in you disgusting freak lmao

>>717672969
>ESL is seething
lol

/v/ lost
Reddit won
US won

>>717672943
T. Agp troon

>>717672943
What's wrong with you misandrist cucks

>>717672783
Eh I don't mind random nobodies making fun of me but it becomes a problem when it's the devs themselves doing it. It's when I take my money elsewhere.

Also; I will take this opportunity to call out some normalfag hypocrisy. I have seen a lot of "normal well-adjusted persons" shitting on self insert harem gacha as "cringe" and "pathetic" but these same people will then go on to indulge in alcohol/smoking/drugs and call that a hobby.

I will say this; gacha is superior to destroying your own body with retarded addictions like that. We are just....better!

>>717672940
>I will not go into the signalis thread or mahoako to bitch about yuri
Too bad about the rest of you then, you reap what you sow

>>717672851
Cringe headcanon, retardbro. No more replies from me.

>>717673125
>Says you when yurifags threatens artists and constantly bitch about hetfags

>>717673069
Misandrist?? Seeing a male fuck my waifu is cuck shit, why are you such a cuck faggot

>>717672943
This is what you yurifag look like to me.

>>717673167
Your Twittertroon boogyman doesnt post on 4chan retard-bro

>>717673209
>Unable to accept women fucking (you)
Kek, typical Yuri troon

>>717673292
>Guy taking up 50% of the image
>not cuck shit
lol, typical brownoid

>>717673209
Your waifu is literally cucking you with a woman dude

>>717672943
This you?

>>717673357
>Tranny still unable to fantasize about women fucking him
Makes sense since you cut your tiny dick

>>717673361
>Girls making out
Hot

>>717673404
Ah, the average self-inserter

>>717673459
>Girls can't drool for you
Cuck

>>717673404
No thats the average gacha player

>>717673357
I noticed only ugly bastard or ntr doujin does this, the stuff I read the dude is basically manequin with an average size dong that is barely out of view.

>>717673439
>Tranny self-inserter thinks his waifu fucking another guy is actually her fucking him
lol cuck cope is real

>>717673459
Selfinsert is the real men genre, not tranny cuck shit

Yuritroon fantasizes about jerking off in the corner but calls others cucks lmfao

>>717673604
Self insert is gay af cope lmao

>>717673209
It's funny how this sentence just describes the mentality of most yuritroon, cant self-insert so they see (You) character as cucking them, but another female character fucking your character somehow doesnt count as cuck
This just shows they view women as below them in their own subconscious without realizing it, which means they are in such culture, which usually are brown countries

>>717673553
>the protagonist is literally me!!

>>717673459
Mhmm