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Anonymous No.717671926 [Report] >>717672224 >>717672497 >>717672780 >>717673696 >>717674671 >>717675790 >>717677021 >>717677662 >>717679508 >>717679648 >>717682441 >>717688036 >>717695328 >>717696052 >>717700323
Is Ken Levine /v/ approved?
Anonymous No.717672224 [Report] >>717672521 >>717701401
>>717671926 (OP)
lmao no
Anonymous No.717672497 [Report] >>717672743
>>717671926 (OP)
Greetest filosofer of our thyme
Anonymous No.717672521 [Report] >>717676048 >>717680830
>>717672224
Why?
Tell me it isn't because you saw one video essay on Youtube whrn you werr a teenager?
Anonymous No.717672743 [Report] >>717673036 >>717673159 >>717674173 >>717675795 >>717676365
>>717672497
>transhumanism le bad
>AI le bad
>Free market le bad
>atheism le bad
>christianity le baf
>no blacks or irish

I can't decide if he is a midwit or not. His games play really nicely and his characters are fun, but I worry the meta narrative of Judas will be
>technology le bad
Anonymous No.717672754 [Report] >>717673090 >>717683840 >>717688795 >>717692103 >>717695897
Is my wife Elizabeth /v/-approved?
Anonymous No.717672780 [Report] >>717673171 >>717675757 >>717675986 >>717676432
>>717671926 (OP)
The writing was pretty good in Infinite. The many worlds and the quantum physics side of it was pretty accurate from a theoretical perspective anyway
Anonymous No.717672831 [Report] >>717689475
Obligatory Levine takedown:
https://odysee.com/$/playlist/90c807764318bb931ad3074fbd7eaee3912ad5a1
Anonymous No.717672960 [Report] >>717673320
I'll never forgive him for turning Bioshock into a multiversal shitfest because he couldn't greenlight it without attaching it to an existing IP
Anonymous No.717673036 [Report]
>>717672743
>technology le bad
Columbus is built using technology. Technology and science are one of the main themes. The religious and political stuff is no different than outside of Columbia, which is the irony of it because Columbia was built to create a free society away from the one outside of it but ended up a parody of it.
Anonymous No.717673090 [Report]
>>717672754
Yes but desu her monozygotial sisters/cousins/alts-of-her are hotter
Anonymous No.717673159 [Report] >>717673557 >>717676259 >>717688706
>>717672743
>I can't decide if he is a midwit or not
You can't? Even after his insane misunderstanding of the multiverse and dimensional travel?
Anonymous No.717673171 [Report] >>717673304
>>717672780
It was groovy. Have you ppayed the others in the series?
Anonymous No.717673304 [Report] >>717673640
>>717673171
Yes, played 1 which I thought was pretty mid. Playing 2 at the moment which is better than 1.

Not a fan of the setting though, Columbia was better than Rapture.
Anonymous No.717673320 [Report]
>>717672960
Well I mean, if you want to keep writing for a character like Shodan but don't have the rights because IP licensing is fucked, what else csn you do?
Anonymous No.717673557 [Report] >>717673760
>>717673159
....he wasn't musing about THE multiverse dude. He waa going autistic over HIS multiverse so he could get around IP licenses fucking with his series
Anonymous No.717673640 [Report] >>717673864
>>717673304
...and the other 3? (Well, two and a bit)
Anonymous No.717673696 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
no, that would be hamburgler
Anonymous No.717673760 [Report] >>717674167
>>717673557
Him thinking Booker could complete a deal with another universe's Vox Populi is all the proof you need that he's an idiot
Anonymous No.717673864 [Report] >>717674480
>>717673640
The dlc? Yes, Burial at sea part 1 was good but I didn't think part 2 was as good because Elizabeth as a playable character was shit.
Anonymous No.717674167 [Report] >>717674428 >>717674451 >>717687150
>>717673760
Wait I don't remember that.
Booker made a deal with one Lighthouse's Vox Populi, but I don't recall him then going to another Lighthouse where that deal was somehow still valid.
But I will be honest, Infinite is a,little....overcooked.
"Booker" in the first and third games just does whatever the voice in his comm tells him.
Columbia Booker had too much "character" imo. Too many lines. Should have stayed mute.
Anonymous No.717674173 [Report] >>717674836 >>717676259
>>717672743
>I don't understand the basics of a multiverse setting but it sounded cool so I just stuck it in the game
>there are infinite worlds with infinite possibilities but killing (You) will kill all the bad versions of yourself because lol
>also there are ghosts
Anonymous No.717674428 [Report] >>717674896
>>717674167
>Booker made a deal with one Lighthouse's Vox Populi, but I don't recall him then going to another Lighthouse where that deal was somehow still valid.
It was when they find the weapons or whatever. They can't escape so Elizabeth opens a tear. There's even a "point of no return" thing on the screen
Anonymous No.717674451 [Report]
>>717674167
NTA but there are like 3 or 4 different timeliness in the game. After you make the deal with Vox to get the weapons made you go to a different timeline.
Anonymous No.717674480 [Report] >>717674576 >>717693450
>>717673864
No dude the other games. System Shock 1, 2, and the remake.
Goggles is in the OP ffs
They are a shitload of fun if you haven't played them
Anonymous No.717674576 [Report] >>717675071 >>717675367 >>717677732 >>717678147
>>717674480
No I've not played the Systemshock games. Is Bioshock a spiritual successor to those games or are they actually connected?
Anonymous No.717674671 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
Wait a second...
Anonymous No.717674836 [Report] >>717674935
>>717674173
No no its
>every Lighthouse is built around the Seed of the Prophet
>in every Lighthouse Booker gives the Seed to the Prophet
>so if every Booker dies, every Lighthouse undoes and, as the song in the game asks; the circle is btoken. The whole point was "will rhe circle be unbtoken" = "will the infinitely repeating zprophecy end?"
Anonymous No.717674896 [Report]
>>717674428
Oh shit yeah. I guess they got lucku but yhat is pretty contrivrd.
Anonymous No.717674935 [Report]
>>717674836
absolutely retarded.
Anonymous No.717675071 [Report] >>717675304 >>717675985 >>717678256
>>717674576
Actually connected. But the imsimm purists (newfags) seethe about it.
Anonymous No.717675304 [Report] >>717675439
>>717675071
>facebookfag calling anyone else a newfag
Anonymous No.717675340 [Report] >>717675454 >>717675553 >>717682323
>"We will give you back the airship we have taken by the force from you if you bring us the guns"
>The guns are inside a warehouse and can't be brought out
>"Let's jump to another universe were we have alredy brought them the guns lol"
Why didn't they just jump to another universe were there wasn't a civil war raging on and just depart to Paris instead?
Anonymous No.717675367 [Report] >>717679651
>>717674576
For story playthroughs the best order is
Infinite
System Shock Remake
System Shock 2
Bioshock 2
Minerva's Den
Bioshock 1
Burial at Sea
Anonymous No.717675439 [Report] >>717675613
>>717675304
Nigger I am not using discord sugg my nuggs
Anonymous No.717675454 [Report] >>717675890 >>717676008
>>717675340
That doesn't make sense. The promise needed to be fufilled because it was a constant, not a variable.
Anonymous No.717675553 [Report]
>>717675340
Because video game lol
Anonymous No.717675613 [Report] >>717681662
>>717675439
vent still works
Anonymous No.717675757 [Report] >>717676767
>>717672780
I'm tired of baits and marketing ploys kys
Anonymous No.717675790 [Report] >>717678650 >>717678782
>>717671926 (OP)
There is a criminal lack of Elizabeths itt.
Rectify immediately.
Anonymous No.717675795 [Report] >>717675956
>>717672743
>transhumanism le bad
This is true though.
Anonymous No.717675890 [Report] >>717676134
>>717675454
Just jump to another universe and ignore Doctor Who shenanigans. If Elizabeth can lose her head as a baby and a Cornstock can avoid dying when all the others die in the final solution to the Cornstock problem, and nothing happens, I don't see how constants are definitive
Anonymous No.717675956 [Report]
>>717675795
Well yeah but he was a bit on the nose
>hey guys look her implants are making her cry! Get it!?
But don't ask me about The Many. No fucking clue what that was about.
Anonymous No.717675985 [Report] >>717676396
>>717675071
any retard can make a new game and claim it's connected to old ones. Also almost none of the original SS devs worked on BioShock sequels
Anonymous No.717675986 [Report] >>717676115 >>717676259 >>717676967
>>717672780
lol
Levine admitted in some reddit post that he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Anonymous No.717676008 [Report]
>>717675454
The only constants are a man, a city, and a lighthouse and in the end they kill the man
Anonymous No.717676048 [Report] >>717677312
>>717672521
Because Bioshock Infinite has terrible writing
Anonymous No.717676115 [Report] >>717676257
>>717675986
That doesn't necessarily mean the writing is bad.
Anonymous No.717676134 [Report]
>>717675890
>liz no head dead
Wait shit isn't that a plot hole? She is one of the core constants so wouldn't the Lighthouse she came from cease to exist once she dird???
Anonymous No.717676257 [Report] >>717676401 >>717676562
>>717676115
so the writing is okay despite the INACCURACY of the "many worlds and the quantum physics side"? more personal opinion bullshit? sasuga
Anonymous No.717676259 [Report] >>717676370 >>717676640 >>717676865
>>717673159
>>717674173
>>717675986
He literally said he included it in the game BECAUSE he didn't understand it. Like he thought it was really cool that he couldn't get his head around it so included it as a central element in the story. This is like someone deciding to smith their own canons for a ship BECAUSE they have no idea how metallurgy works, and then acting surprised when people criticize their work because the canons fucking explode from poor tensile strength when they're attempted to be fired.

It's baffling. Genuinely baffling. A lot of writers include elements they don't fully understand because they think they understand something better than they actually do, this is the only instance I've ever heard of where a writer goes "Yeah I included it because I know fuckall about it, also stop criticizing it."
Anonymous No.717676269 [Report]
LOL, you faggots already forgot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swst7QI8YfQ
Anonymous No.717676365 [Report] >>717676783
>>717672743
The message of the original Bioshock is that jews are awesome and that goyim suck and destroy everything jews build. It's a complete inversion created by a deranged jew. The game itself is pretty good though.
Anonymous No.717676370 [Report] >>717688794
>>717676259
uppity narcissistic longnose, more news at 12
Anonymous No.717676396 [Report] >>717676507 >>717677110
>>717675985
>Ken Levine, Jonathan Chey, and Robert Fermier were instrumental in SystemShock2 and remained key figures through BioShock , as well as many of the over 100 employees that worked on System Shock 2.
Also
>any retard
We aren't talking about some random on reddit. We are talking about the lead writer of the whole series
Anonymous No.717676401 [Report] >>717676432
>>717676257
Yes?
Anonymous No.717676432 [Report] >>717677039
>>717672780
>>717676401
Less than an hour to contradict yourself. Speedran that shit.
Anonymous No.717676507 [Report]
>>717676396
>not just any retard
>there's 3!
kek
Anonymous No.717676562 [Report] >>717676745 >>717676807
>>717676257
Bro. Listen. He wasn't trying to be a quantam physician, he was trying to link his games. Are you jumping up DC's ass over their multiverse?
Anonymous No.717676589 [Report] >>717676942
The guy rides almost entirely on his games aesthetics which he likely has snt even that involved in. Ye seven the early shock games
Anonymous No.717676640 [Report]
>>717676259
>he couldn't get his head around it
how do you not get your head around it? Futurama literally explained it in the simplest way possible

>you did thing but in another universe you did other thing
Anonymous No.717676745 [Report]
>>717676562
Bro. Listen. The fag's entire justification and reasoning for "the writing being good" was the (inaccurate and false) "many worlds and quantum bullshit". Now it has devolved into his personal opinion.
Anonymous No.717676767 [Report] >>717677443
>>717675757
>muh shills
Why would anyone shill the Bioshock games? Bioshock infinite was released in 2013.
Anonymous No.717676783 [Report] >>717677583
>>717676365
You saw one video essay when you were a teenager.
This theory only works if
>you didn't read the book
>didn't play the games
Tennenbaum worked at Auschwitz as a eugrnicist and her main criticsm of the znazis was that they didn't go far rnough
Anonymous No.717676807 [Report]
>>717676562
>Are you jumping up DC's ass over their multiverse?
DC understands its multiverse means some things happened and some things didn't like Batman's parents
Anonymous No.717676865 [Report] >>717677136 >>717677262 >>717677520
>>717676259
To be fair "write what you know" isn't a rule, "write what you want to know" is just as valid. As a writer you can have a character build a canon out of popsicle sticks and it still works. Specially for something as abstract as multiverse every writer comes up with their own ideas on how it works. Unless they claim THIS IS HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS IN REAL LIFE, which is like trying to do real life time travel, then it's fine to just do what you want with it.
Levine just did a really stupid job at it because he wanted to do a repeat meta commentary like with 1's would you kindly. Maybe because the game was a development mess that got stitched together in 6 months but still.
Anonymous No.717676942 [Report]
>>717676589
But they are really nice aesrhetics tho
Anonymous No.717676967 [Report] >>717677039 >>717679546
>>717675986
I'm not an expert on quantum physics but I've read a watched quite a lot about quantum physics, the many worlds interpretation and other particle physics theories. From what I know about quantum physics the writing is pretty accurate and no different from the other things I've read and watched about it and the many worlds theory.
Anonymous No.717677021 [Report] >>717677125
>>717671926 (OP)
No, this game is peak loxism.
Anonymous No.717677039 [Report]
>>717676432
Second post isn't even me anon.
Also
>>717676967
Anonymous No.717677110 [Report] >>717677260 >>717678624
>>717676396
you listed 1 programmer that was involved in SS1, with no influence on narrative.
Doug Church, Austin Grossman, Warren Spector, Harvey Smith, Paul Neurath, etc - people who actually influenced the core gameplay and narrative, weren't involved with BioShock.
Anonymous No.717677125 [Report]
>>717677021
You saw one video essay when you were a teenager.
Also SS2 is in OP's pic. Is that Loxist? Your video essay didn't cover it.
Anonymous No.717677136 [Report] >>717677735
>>717676865
>As a writer you can have a character build a canon out of popsicle sticks and it still works.
the majority of the time this only works because the writer knows how things actually work and then stresses those points. whether it be an extreme exaggeration of reality or a focus on the nitty gritty.
Anonymous No.717677260 [Report] >>717677425
>>717677110
You know Levine asked Warren for permission right? You know they are friends right? You know he had Warren check his writing of Shodan, right?
Anonymous No.717677262 [Report] >>717677735
>>717676865
It's fine not knowing everything about what you write about, but when you know next to nothing and attempt to make it the core plot element of your story it kind of falls apart.
Anonymous No.717677312 [Report] >>717677387 >>717677452 >>717677514 >>717677913
>>717676048
>one of the highest rated games of all time
>terrible writing
Let me guess, you think the Last of Us, Baldur's Gate 3, Disco Elysium, and Expedition 33 have terrible writing too?
Anonymous No.717677387 [Report]
>>717677312
>highest rated
oh so you're one of those
Anonymous No.717677425 [Report] >>717677652 >>717677846
>>717677260
what does any of that have to do with Bioshock?
Anonymous No.717677443 [Report] >>717677570
>>717676767
There is a new Bioshock game coming out at some point. Technically two. Take Two insists on throwing money at it for some reason.
Anonymous No.717677452 [Report]
>>717677312
NTA but Telltale's TWD mogs the shit ouyt of TLOU
Anonymous No.717677514 [Report] >>717692927
>>717677312
I don't know where you've been for the last decade but multiple reviewers have outright stated they regret rating Infinite so highly on release.
Anonymous No.717677520 [Report]
>>717676865
>"write what you want to know" is just as valid
usually when people do that they RESEARCH what they want to know so they can understand it enough to write it not just shove it in and hope for the best
Anonymous No.717677570 [Report] >>717677804
>>717677443
Both got csncelled earlier this week where were you?
Anonymous No.717677583 [Report] >>717678001
>>717676783
Actually the book reinforces it, the case is actually weaker without the book. Every bad guy in the story is a goy and every good guy is a jew. Tenenbaum is literally your main ally in the game. She's portrayed as a flawed hero, brainraped by evil goyim.
Anonymous No.717677652 [Report] >>717677985
>>717677425
Same series, different Lighthouses, IP license from hell,
Keep up
Anonymous No.717677662 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
>Gets outdone by some random Ausfags
>Kills his series with multiverse faggotry
Bravo.
Anonymous No.717677732 [Report]
>>717674576
Not connected. Levine had nothing to do with System Shock 1. He directed System Shock 2 thoughever.
Anonymous No.717677735 [Report] >>717678151
>>717677136
Or they just write "and then he took all the leftover popsicle sticks and made a cannon". This example is obviously more comedic than anything but the point stands that within fiction you can do whatever you want. What's more important is being consistent with your own rules. Which Levine didn't really do well with Infinite.
>>717677262
It's like how every time travel story establishes it own rules and pitfalls to avoid. It's fine to setup some multiverse story and just make up your own rules. I was watching an American Dad episode recently that had a multiverse and their rule for how it worked is that every universe needed a Shaggy, the musician. If one died all the universes would collapse.
Anonymous No.717677804 [Report]
>>717677570
They did? Looking them up only shows results saying the exact opposite.
Anonymous No.717677846 [Report] >>717678183
>>717677425
Absolutely nothing. Bioshock isn't even an imsim. It's a first person shooter. A very good one though.
Anonymous No.717677913 [Report]
>>717677312
>makes his bait obvious 2 posts in
Anonymous No.717677985 [Report] >>717678256
>>717677652
and no original devs. but keep up the fanfic retcon
Anonymous No.717678001 [Report] >>717678778
>>717677583
>Tenenbaum
Literally participated in the holocaust
>Bill
Moral centre of the story. The only good guy, is Ryan's bestie, and is a Goy
>Ryan
Unambigiously evil at the end. He becomes as bad as Fontaine. Ryan also causes Rapture's collapse
>Porter
One of Rapture's greatest minds, good terms with Ryan, is literally a sub saharan goy.

I can go on.

(Also Tenenbaum regularly fucks Fontaine)
Anonymous No.717678147 [Report] >>717678395
>>717674576
Spiritually connected in that they follow similar themes, game design, and some staff members. But to my knowledge there isn't any sort of lore in Bioshock that specifically name drops SS, presumably because for a long time no one even knew who owned the IP anymore. System Shock Remake might make some reference but presumably it's just a reference, not intended as some deep lore thing.
Anonymous No.717678151 [Report] >>717678521
>>717677735
>Or they just write "and then he took all the leftover popsicle sticks and made a cannon".
then you're just writing a bad comedy which is completely different from what the goal with infinite was.
Anonymous No.717678183 [Report] >>717679156
>>717677846
He was right. Imsim purist. SS1 wasnt even an imsim dude
Anonymous No.717678256 [Report] >>717678624
>>717677985
See>>717675071
Anonymous No.717678395 [Report] >>717678646
>>717678147
Citadel Station was in the Sea of Lighthouses and can still be found with dev tools. It got cut because the System Shock licrnse is fucked
Anonymous No.717678521 [Report] >>717680053
>>717678151
Yes, I acknowledged the example was comedic. The point is that Infinite falls on a lot of things, Levine learning about multiverses and wanting to play around with the idea is perfectly fine. I don't think they needed Albert Einstein to write Back to the Future.
Anonymous No.717678624 [Report] >>717678828
>>717678256
see>>717677110
Anonymous No.717678646 [Report] >>717678904
>>717678395
I think it's better to keep them separated. How does Citadel Station even work within the context of "there's always a lighthouse".
Anonymous No.717678650 [Report] >>717683840
>>717675790
Anonymous No.717678778 [Report] >>717679058 >>717681112 >>717681198
>>717678001
>Unambigiously evil at the end. He becomes as bad as Fontaine. Ryan also causes Rapture's collapse
Not at all. If anything, Ryan's slowness to act what was allowed the evil goy so called Fontaine to destroy Rapture. But you ignored what I said about Tenenenbaum, and you clearly haven't even watched the video essay (by american krogan) that you are attacking, so you're arguing in bad faith. Good bye.
Anonymous No.717678782 [Report]
>>717675790
Anonymous No.717678828 [Report] >>717679509
>>717678624
>name devs!
>noo not like that!!!
>warren giving ken permission and supervising his writing doesn't count!!!!
Just admit it. You hate Bioshock and you're just working backwards from there.
Anonymous No.717678904 [Report] >>717679182
>>717678646
Its a lighthouse class starbase
Anonymous No.717679058 [Report] >>717679425
>>717678778
BILL.
THE GOOD GUY.
IS SHOT DEAD IN FRONT OF HIS WIFE AND CHILD BECAUSE RYAN WENT INSANE.
YOU FAGGOT.
Anonymous No.717679156 [Report] >>717679597
>>717678183
Yes it is
Anonymous No.717679182 [Report]
>>717678904
That's what I mean. If you have to be this abstract about what counts as a lighthouse than the whole idea falls apart. It's fine to have all the Bioshock games in some way connect to a lighthouse as a central motif, trying to drag another series just because that's where Levine made a name for himself is retarded.
It'd be like trying to drag GTA into the mix just because it's also Take Two owned.
Anonymous No.717679425 [Report] >>717679931
>>717679058
>As the situation in Rapture worsened, McDonagh realized that the Civil War would not end until Ryan was dead. In order to save his beloved city he decided to kill Ryan.[10]Ultimately, he was unsuccessful. Bill McDonagh was killed and his body was impaled on a pillar outside of Andrew Ryan's office inRapture Central Controlafter he turned on Ryan in an attempt to prevent the chaos from growing worse.

Ryan killed him in self defense
Anonymous No.717679508 [Report] >>717679627
>>717671926 (OP)
Kai Leng is in Bioshock?
Anonymous No.717679509 [Report]
>>717678828
Warren reading over Levine's Shodan dialogue in SS2 has literally nothing to do with Bioshock
Anonymous No.717679546 [Report] >>717685273
>>717676967
>the writing is pretty accurate
Until you get to the ending where it shits the bed:
>"I'll just kill Booker before he turns evil and I'll do it in every universe, despite there being an infinite number of universes."
Anonymous No.717679597 [Report] >>717679693 >>717680072 >>717680812
>>717679156
>system shock 1
>zero rpg elements
>was literally called a doom clone
Anonymous No.717679627 [Report]
>>717679508
This is Infinite Shock
Anonymous No.717679648 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
>wmbf chad
of course
Anonymous No.717679651 [Report]
>>717675367
Nice jest
Anonymous No.717679693 [Report] >>717680119 >>717680812
>>717679597
Have you even played it? Nobody thinks system shock is a doom clone
Anonymous No.717679931 [Report] >>717681381
>>717679425
Bill was fleeing to a bathosphere amd ryan had his enforcer do it actually. But ypu didn't read the book.
Bill was going to kill h in his office but chickened out because he still saw ryam as a friend.
Anonymous No.717680053 [Report] >>717680441
>>717678521
>The point is that Infinite falls on a lot of things
fails*
and no one is expecting devs to get the brightest minds available to write their story for them, but if they're centering a story around a central premise of a theory most people will generally expect them to have a grasp on the basics. you don't need newton on staff to make a game about gravity and understand that when you drop something it goes down.
Anonymous No.717680072 [Report]
>>717679597
Every FPS was called a doom clone back then. Not as a dismissive criticism, more like we call games soulslike or metroidvanias. They hadn't yet thought of a better name to describe being in first person.
Anonymous No.717680119 [Report]
>>717679693
Nice jump hacker
God the title suits me well
Fuck cybersoace
Laser rapier for dayz


Yes i have played it
Anonymous No.717680441 [Report] >>717682448 >>717686312
>>717680053
I think people make too big a deal about that one quote considering his multiverse isn't any more stupid than every other multiverse in existence. That's why multiverses and time travel are the point that seems the writer has lost all control of the plot since anything that happens can just be undone. Fucking Half-Life.
Anonymous No.717680812 [Report]
>>717679597
>>717679693
System Shock is more of a dungeon crawler fps than anything else. Ultima Underworld in space. Ken Levine forgot the appeal of giving players the freedom to explore big environments on their own time. Best parts of Bioshock and Infinite were not the big bombastic scripted fights and scenes but the moments when the player had the freedom to explore a branching path.
Anonymous No.717680830 [Report]
>>717672521
I played the game when I was teenager and it was so disappointing because I overhyped it.
Since then, I'll never forgive Ken Levine for what he did to gamers and his employees...
Anonymous No.717681112 [Report] >>717681381
>>717678778
Shame he deleted everything. that fallout grounded commonwealth mod was pretty dumb looking back tho
Anonymous No.717681198 [Report] >>717681381 >>717681483
>>717678778
>Ryan's slowness to act what was allowed the evil goy so called Fontaine to destroy Rapture.
The fact that he acted at all turned him into a hypocrite. He was comfortable in his libertarian utopia as long as he was in charge. But the moment he got serious competition from someone else, he started breaking his own rules of no rules.
Anonymous No.717681381 [Report] >>717681593 >>717682279
>>717679931
>>717681112
Why did he delete everything?

>>717681198
Wrong. Fontaine was literally a murderer, kidnapper, extortioner and so on and so forth. Literally a terrorist. Stopping criminals is not against his ideology.
>y-you cant be libertarian and want to stop ISIS, hypocritr!!1!
Anonymous No.717681483 [Report] >>717681593
>>717681198
Not to mention fontaine broke the one clear rule ryan ha detailed, and that was that no one was to sneak into or out of rapture. So he broke Ryans clearly stated law even with his very presence
Anonymous No.717681593 [Report] >>717682369
>>717681381
>Fontaine was literally a murderer, kidnapper, extortioner
And so was Ryan.
>>717681483
>Not to mention fontaine broke the one clear rule ryan ha detailed, and that was that no one was to sneak into or out of rapture.
And he didn't have any problems with that until Fontaines Plasmid business became too big and Ryan started losing money.
Anonymous No.717681662 [Report]
>>717675613
Get off my vent or I will have you bent
Anonymous No.717681694 [Report]
I don't remember Bill
Anonymous No.717681892 [Report]
>2guns
Sorry but I'm just not going to ever give infinite even the most minor of attempts haha, it's trash!
Anonymous No.717682178 [Report]
>717680441
people are fine with BS so long as it isn't retarded enough to force you to question it, or if you have an elaborate enough explanation rooted in some truth. anything short of that just feels lazy and like the writer didn't even bother thinking about it longer than it took them to write the script.
Anonymous No.717682279 [Report] >>717682456
>>717681381
>why did he delete everything
I think it was because he couldn't really maintain his channels anymore. (bitchute, odyssey and w/e else he had)
Theres still archives on there tho
I did find a xitter guy claiming to be (formerly) AK, tho
Anonymous No.717682323 [Report]
>>717675340
The final product was frankensteined together from rough draft concepts and assets and they couldn't figure out how to salvage the game's story so they just wen with multiverse nonsense and pretended it made sense.
The writers banked (correctly) on the normalfag audience being too dumb to notice and willing to convince themselves that the game was "smart" because of technobabble and spectacle.
Anonymous No.717682369 [Report]
>>717681593
>And so was Ryan
No he wasnt

>And he didn't have any problems with that until Fontaines Plasmid business became too big and Ryan started losing money.
He didnt know it. Fontaine isn't even his real name, you know that. All Ryan's paranoia of foreign goyim spies was "justified", this dude breaks into Rapture, steals the identity of Fontaine, and destroys everything

Literally the timeline is that Ryan did not do anything to Fontaine whatsoever until he was caught illegally smuggling things in and out of Rapture. Fontaine then resisted arrest and started blasting, and then he faked his own death.

Months later Fontaine literally starts comitting terrorist attacks and blowing up restaurants, and orders his fake conned "peoples rebellion" to start a civil war. The whole time, from the moment he came to rapture, his sole goal was do a coup and become the dictator
Anonymous No.717682441 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
No, he's a douche nugget.
Anonymous No.717682448 [Report] >>717683046
>>717680441
people are fine with BS so long as it isn't retarded enough to force you to question it, or if you have an elaborate enough explanation rooted in some truth. anything short of that just feels lazy and like the writer didn't even bother thinking about it longer than it took them to write the script.
Anonymous No.717682456 [Report]
>>717682279
Mate what there is nothing to maintain its not like you need to indefinitely patch your essay
Anonymous No.717683046 [Report] >>717683207
>>717682448
I agree but it's not like a single line of dialogue wouldn't fix some of its problems, like how people complain the ending doesn't make any sense since how is Elizabeth supposed to kill all the Bookers across infinite universes. Easy, those Bookers are other players hence they'll all be killed by their respective Elizabeths, not this singular Elizabeth.
Honestly it's been a long time since I last played so maybe the writing is far worse than I remember.
Anonymous No.717683107 [Report] >>717685221
I think Ken Levine should kill himself.
Anonymous No.717683207 [Report]
>>717683046
>but it's not like a single line of dialogue wouldn't fix some of its problems
I think that's exactly what they tried with the whole variables think and it didn't work.
Anonymous No.717683840 [Report] >>717685565 >>717686879
>>717678650
>>717672754
shota pov, btw
Anonymous No.717685221 [Report]
>>717683107
I think we can all agree on that
Anonymous No.717685273 [Report]
>>717679546
Yes that is the one part I didn't understand either where they killed the comstock line which isn't possible under the many worlds 'laws'.

There was some dialogue from the Lutece's about collapsing a quantum super position but that doesn't apply to many worlds seen as each universe has it's own infinite number of super positions and all the other infinite universes created from them.
Anonymous No.717685565 [Report]
>>717683840
That's this.
Anonymous No.717686072 [Report]
Propaganda is the control of speech. Using your control of speech to undermine my ancestors' existence undermines MY existence as their descendant. Bioshock Infinite is an unironic declaration by Ken Levine that he wants me dead, my family dead, my friends dead, and my children dead.
This is why they freak out about any criticism of the show-ah. They understand that their existence is undermined by pointing out they're liars and parasites. They understand the power of language and narrative. G_ys are fucking one-shotted by high-verbal-IQs. "duhhh... I see it on the bideo game and it uses big boy words... it must be true"
Anonymous No.717686312 [Report] >>717686840
>>717680441
Half-Life isn't confirmed to work exactly as the "many worlds theory" posits.
Also, only the main antagonist seems to have any power over time travel. There is no Rick and Morty "portal gun"
Anonymous No.717686840 [Report]
>>717686312
This would be its own thread but it's still fucking retarded to undo one of the more meaningful moments in the series after over a decade just to revive a character who only existed as a reverse princess to be rescued. Even if only G-man can use it it means anything that happens can just as quickly be undone. The damage is done, like any other story that suddenly introduces multiverse, timelines or time travel because they couldn't be bothered to stick with the current direction. It's beyond stupid just because they didn't want to commit to the Borealis plot so now the whole series is thrown out of wack.
Anonymous No.717686879 [Report]
>>717683840
imagine the BMI of this poster
Anonymous No.717687150 [Report] >>717688962
>>717674167
It's was something more like;
>Vox steals blimp from Booker and makes deal to give it back in exchange for weapons
>Booker and Liz go to weaponmaker to find he's dead
>so they hop to a reality where weaponmaker isn't dead, but unfortunately all his tools are locked up so you need to get him his tools
>you get to police Impound and realize there's no fucking way Booker and Elizabeth can carry all this shit back to him
>they jump through yet another dimension where the tools aren't at the impound and assume they have to be back with the weaponsmith
>they go back and he's dead and the Vox got their weapons anyways

So yeah, this Infinite is full of shit writing and Ken Levine is nothing but a big picture "ideas" guy. He's on record saying he hates releasing games and would rather just perpetually develop instead. But all that would have been forgiven if he just left Bioshock 1 alone. His stupid fanfic tier DLC story was clearly made because he has a boner for Elizabeth, and once again flexes his horrible writing.
>ending of infinite concludes that Comstock will now never exist because he was drowned in the baptism
>....except for DLC Booker who is actually a Comstock who exists for some reason, did a bad thing, and isolated himself to Rapture?

Ken Levine retconned Infinites story in the very first story-focused DLC and there are people who are actually hyped for Judas. Enjoy your pretentious garbage with ass writing.
Anonymous No.717688036 [Report] >>717688095 >>717688532 >>717688686
>>717671926 (OP)
>lol no, BioShock 2 is the only good game in the series cause it isn't written by the jew hack ken levine. Conically BioShock 2 is the one that jews want to claim doesn't exist
Anonymous No.717688095 [Report]
>>717688036
didn't mean to green arrow
Anonymous No.717688532 [Report] >>717688632
>>717688036
I like both 1 and 2.
Anonymous No.717688632 [Report] >>717688746 >>717689053
>>717688532
1 and 2 are great. I think everyone agrees on that. it's Infinite that shit the bed
Anonymous No.717688686 [Report] >>717688818
>>717688036
2's story sucks
Anonymous No.717688706 [Report] >>717688808 >>717689590
>>717673159
>misunderstanding of the multiverse and dimensional travel?
How can you misunderstand shit that doesnt exist
Anonymous No.717688746 [Report] >>717688957 >>717689053
>>717688632
nah it's better than 1, though only slightly
Anonymous No.717688794 [Report]
>>717676370
That's literally the opposite of narcissistic behavior. A narcissist would claim they understood it despite not
Anonymous No.717688795 [Report] >>717695241 >>717697664
>>717672754
Cannot overemphasize the dozens of times I've cum to Fair Market Value. Ahhh SFM...it was a more innocent time...
Anonymous No.717688808 [Report]
>>717688706
that's what I want to know.
Anonymous No.717688818 [Report] >>717689732
>>717688686
you will never have kids commie faggot dyke
Anonymous No.717688957 [Report] >>717689801
>>717688746
it's only better in terms of combat, everything else is a downgrade
Anonymous No.717688962 [Report]
>>717687150
>he has a boner for Elizabeth
I defy you to find a straight man who doesn't.
Anonymous No.717689053 [Report]
>>717688632
No game has left me as speechless from retardation like Infinite.

>>717688746
>can't drill Sofia in cold blood
Anonymous No.717689475 [Report]
>>717672831
Based American Krogan enjoyer
Anonymous No.717689590 [Report]
>>717688706
Because you can establish rules for a thing that doesn't exist and follow those rules consistently to make an interesting story, 80iq anon-kun.
Anonymous No.717689732 [Report]
>>717688818
No need to talk about 2's antagonist like that
Anonymous No.717689801 [Report] >>717691162
>>717688957
well it's a shooter, and bio1 has terrible shooting
Anonymous No.717691162 [Report] >>717691530
>>717689801
Bioshock 1 has good shooting. Certainly better than any half life game. I assume you played the original version, it has horrific mouse smoothing that cant be turned off, it makes the shooting feel horrible. The remaster finally fixed it
Anonymous No.717691530 [Report]
>>717691162
I played it on a console like a white man
Anonymous No.717692103 [Report] >>717695241
>>717672754
she is /h/+/d/ approved
Anonymous No.717692927 [Report]
>>717677514
such as?
Anonymous No.717693450 [Report]
>>717674480
What schizophrenic shit is this?
Anonymous No.717695241 [Report] >>717695849
>>717688795
What's your favorite part?
>>717692103
>elizabeth_the_smut_princess.jpg
That's the wife I know and love.
Anonymous No.717695328 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
He's a jew who hates White people, so nu/v/ aka Mumbai probably loves him.
Anonymous No.717695849 [Report]
>>717695241
elizabeth is the daughter we all know and love deeply
the wife is the smut queen alice
>but elizabeth is older
alice came out first and she gets to be my wife
Anonymous No.717695897 [Report] >>717696098
>>717672754
>me when garter belts
Anonymous No.717696052 [Report] >>717696894
>>717671926 (OP)
>Ken Levine

In the interview he did with Skill Up he said he "wrote himself into a corner" with Bioshock Infinite while addressing criticism of the game. He said it was hard to write Combstock and defend/relate to him and his society because white society is just a terrible society

LOL kike nigger says the reason his game was shit is because of white people
Anonymous No.717696098 [Report]
>>717695897
Anonymous No.717696894 [Report] >>717697660
>>717696052
>evil whitey makes a sky-utopia out of robots
>and then invites a bunch of irish and browns to act as servants for some reason because otherwise the whole of it is too perfect
Anonymous No.717696975 [Report] >>717697149
Bioshock is dead.
/bsg/ is dead.
Liz is dead.
Anonymous No.717697149 [Report] >>717697186
>>717696975
>Liz is dead.
Not if I (her husband) have anything to say about it.
Anonymous No.717697186 [Report] >>717697347
>>717697149
You (her husband) (horse) can't even read or write.
Anonymous No.717697347 [Report]
>>717697186
I'm her adult human husband, actually.
Anonymous No.717697660 [Report] >>717698005
>>717696894
Jews have twisted, inverted fallacy brains. Boomers have been mind raped by jews the most. And Ken Levine is both of those things. His games are to inconsistant. Ken Levine also lacks good moraels. For Bioshock 1 they used multiple disfigured, injured World War 1 veterans. One of them had been burned alive and they named that character in game "toasty?

If a game ever comes along and uses malnourished, starving jews as enemies and names one of them "hungry" or "boney" I dont want to hear a word out of these kikes.
Anonymous No.717697664 [Report] >>717701316
>>717688795
I liked bioshag better myself
Anonymous No.717698005 [Report] >>717698713
>>717697660
>pot calls kettle black
rude? true, but funny nonetheless
nearly everyone on this website does rude things to everyone else cause its funny. thats what being a troll means. doing it for the funny.
Anonymous No.717698713 [Report] >>717698875
>>717698005
what?
Anonymous No.717698875 [Report] >>717698990
>>717698713
he was trolling the ww1 vet.
sure the ratio of funny to rude was heavily skewed in rude's favor compared to the usual trolling happening on here but my point still stands.
you shouldnt blame him for partaking in age old gaming tradition of trolling others
Anonymous No.717698990 [Report]
>>717698875
Oh got it
Yeah. But also TKD
Anonymous No.717700323 [Report]
>>717671926 (OP)
I found this mod fascinating and even kind of impressive. When it wasn't breaking every five minutes.
Anonymous No.717701316 [Report]
>>717697664
personally , the first part was the best of the whole video
Anonymous No.717701401 [Report]
>>717672224
Holy FPBP
Anonymous No.717702246 [Report] >>717702582
I just jacked it to Elizabeth fucking a dog
Anonymous No.717702582 [Report] >>717702821
>>717702246
Nice! Which video/image was it?
Anonymous No.717702821 [Report] >>717703407
>>717702582
THe most recent noname55 one
https://e621.net/posts/5726810?q=elizabeth_%28bioshock_infinite%29
Anonymous No.717703407 [Report]
>>717702821
Good one, I hope vids like that are all glowinglightdude needs for Knotty Confessions part 2. It's been so long since part 1.
https://rule34video.com/video/3523077/knotty-confessions-elizabeth-part-1/
Anonymous No.717704209 [Report]
>the jeets posting bestiality got banned again
jej
jeets are a disease