Thread 717672223

So what did we think?

>>717672223 (OP)
12k players
>poe2
8k players
hmmmm

Rather play BG3 since it's actually a good game.

>>717672801
>BG3
>good game
reddit is back the other way, anon. go there instead.

kept crashing for me

>>717672801
No thanks, I'm heterosexual.

Is Storm + Earth actually good? I remember it being underwhelming in the first game

>>717672223 (OP)
started to play it. early on rebound keys and played with settings to get it how I wanted. then I couldn't progress to get to the gryphon because I rebound left alt to something else.
I didn't feel like making left alt its default function so I quit

>>717672801
LEL
Go back

>>717672952
No use storm+rogue
rogue gives insane DPS to any build.

I guess it's good thread to ask then - is game expected to be played like first TQ aka one active skill, rest into passives and hold L/RMB?

>>717673059
You can do that but there are many utility skills.

>>717672862
>>717672945
>>717672968
Trying too hard

Is the game finished? Like can you play through it from beginning to end

>>717673298
No its 1 act no idea when next is out

It's okay.

Very obviously early access though. Balance is all over the place. Ice Shards is hilariously busted with little to no investment. Rogue can basically have 100% crit within an hour or two as Ranged, but melee struggles. A bunch of Rogue skills have "Shadow" in their name but don't get the Shadow Tag so they don't benefit from half of the Shadow related passives.
Vitality Damage is hilariously shit. I made a Warfare / Rogue (Reaver) and took every single node into Vitality Damage on both trees. It took me until level 28 to see some proper fucking life leech actually occur. I basically didn't see any level of "survivability" until around level 20 and I'm pretty sure that was ENTIRELY because I was too powerful for everything by that point. Even with spending gold to increase difficulty. And my damage suffered a lot because I had to invest so heavily into Life Leech and Vitality damage. At level 28, I only had 600 DPS on my main skill. Which is fucking stupidly weak and I managed to get that much around level 10 on a full Ranged Rogue and again on a Lightning Caster around level 13.

Other than that - I do NOT like the Story. In Titan Quest 1, I'm just a traveler who stops by to help. In Titan Quest 2, I am some kind of chosen hero, prophesized bullshit. I don't like that Gods are involved in us right from the very beginning. It doesn't feel like a cool Greek story of a guy rising to the occasion. It feels like Hollywood sloppa.

>>717672223 (OP)
I am about to to defeat the Griffon and I have magma balls and that's it, the fissure skill sort of looks like it's meant for melee so I haven't picked it up.

Also, this game feels comfier than POE2 so far, but I sort of fail to see how this game is different from other ARPGs? What makes Titan Quest different? Anyways, I'm enjoying myself, Music is nice too

>>717673502
>ice shards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSl3cxU64pk

>>717673502
Oh - and Shields fucking suck. I hate it. I really hope they look into Shields, because they are complete and utter dog shit. You give up so much to use them and they offer nothing in return. I wanted to be some cool Greek Hero with my xiphos and shield or spear and shield. Instead I ended up using some retarded looking club because putting on a shield and sword cut my DPS by over half.

>>717673410
Alright thanks. Then not gonna bother until it's ready

>>717673772
Yes, I mentioned that too. Read one sentence longer.

I feel like an arpg but realistically how long does it take to get through the current amount of content? I saw one guy say he finished the game in a fucking hour
Either gonna hop back into Last Epoch or try this but I don't want to get into it and then 10 minutes later the game is over

>>717673879
I have 0.7 hours on the game and I haven't defeated the first boss

>>717673879
if the sale has ended just wait

>>717673691
The class system, mostly. That and that it tends to deal with Ancient Greece and other Ancient empires and their system of gods and fantastical elements. In Titan Quest 1 we went to China, Egypt, etc. etc.
But you won't really deal with any of that in a Early Access.

On a side note, I think their movement system needs a tiny bit of work. If you play with WASD, you could make the mouse and movement work in the same way it works in POE2. The way your character moves and reacts with which direction you're looking makes the animations considerably more fluid. Right now my character is extremely janky with WASD movement.

>>717673879
100% exploration and all quests was about... 5-10 hours depending on the build.
Play something busted? 5 hours.
Play something normal? 10 hours.
Unless you just go straight to the end. Then maybe 2 hours with a busted build. 3 or 4 with something else.

>>717673691
Taiga sexo

>>717673879
Took me 10 hours to do main quest and all side quests available.

I hope the rest of the masteries aren't just copy pasted ones from the first game

>>717674427
I hope they are I want my Nature Dryad back

>>717673775
>Shields fucking suck
They really do and it annoys the hell out of me.

>>717674650
>>717673775
>Shields suck
RIP
Gonna return the game. I just bought it thankfully.

Last Epoch is getting a new patch in a week or two. Does that game have fun shield builds? What about POE2?

>>717672223 (OP)

Why are you playing as a woman you troon?
Even games with isometric view where you can't even "stare at your character's ass" you guys use to pretend you're women lmaoooo

>>717676190
its not a girl its a 1000 year old dragon

>>717672223 (OP)
Bad performance, bad combat and skill variety. Terrible dialogue/voice acting. Really old feeling game that pales in comparison to its' predecessor

You have to spend way too many points into an ability before it becomes interesting to use, and most of them are really bad and can't be specialized in. Theres entire trees for basic attack, dodge, barrier, etc., but they are all basically useless. Same thing for the vast majority of the passive skills. The entire skill system seems like a hastily put together imitation of an arpg system because so much of it is for appearances only and has no substance. Lack of synergy between classes unlike grim dawn which had tons of skill morphs that allowed even seeming dissimilar things to synergize.

>>717673059
Yes. They added utility skills but they're basically all trash and you're incentivized to pump points into one skill because of how their skill system works

>>717672223 (OP)
On the off chance there is a dev here;
>Story sucks - go back to TQ 1 where you're just some guy. This chosen one bullshit is extremely gay.
>Balance sucks - this is actually fair since it's early access, but it's still kinda annoying. Shields are useless. A lot of Warfare skills require too big an investment while Rogue is crazy strong. Also defensive skills and passives suck and are basically worthless. Why is defense so shit? Also life leech is really shit. Insanely shit.
>Animations - if you're gonna have WASD movement, you should make your character react to mouse movement. Without it the animations are not fluid at all.
Honestly - if you can fix these, it'll probably be one of my favorite ARPGs. But right now it's kinda lame.

>>717673059
>>717673059
Pretty much. It's giving me flashbacks to basically autoattacking through the game as Warfare + Dream.

I do not want to go back to those days.

>>717678254
Also I wish your mentor was some badass guy that didn't really say a lot but just trained you. You know, the silent cool guy. "Good, you got your blessing. However, I need to leave, something is amiss. I'm leaving the Griffon to you, let's meet up later."

>>717672223 (OP)
Slow, boring, poorly balanced and poorly optimized. In other words, it's just like TQ1.

>>717678254
>Story sucks - go back to TQ 1 where you're just some guy. This chosen one bullshit is extremely gay.
BASED. are you me?

>>717678370
It also makes no sense Nemesis spears her in the back and kills her but doesn't do the same to the player? unless its some god decree that "if you kill charname you kill yourself"

literally fell asleep playing tq1
don't have high expectations with 2

>>717674720
>Last Epoch
lemayo. Does he know?

Sorry I don't play early access slop. Call me when the game actually releases.

>>717674720
I have like 250 hours in last epoch and I don't remember using a shield once. In Grim Dawn I had a retaliation + shield throw build using dual wielded shields. It was incredibly strong able to solo gladiator level crucible becuase certain skills can scale off your retaliation but obscure as fuck, extremely gear dependant and impossible to start the game with

>>717680407
ok gimme ur number

>>717678745
>literally fell asleep playing tq1
zoom zoom

>>717680906
I could be your father, retard
tq1 is extremely boring and slow and ugly

>>717681356
maybe you could adopt him

>>717681356
>called zoomer
>takes it as an insult and spergs out
as I said, zoom zoom

>>717681412
I don't know anon... raising a mentally damaged kid breaks my heart

>>717672223 (OP)
>shotgun-like attack or ability
>hits beyond the first do 80% less damage
why do games do this? Why is my reward for getting myself in a position as a caster to land up to 18 shots that my damage ceiling goes from the deserved 3294 to a measly 805?

>>717681670
because 18 hits at that damage would 1 shot a boss

>>717678297
>>717677813
Bummer. TQ combat was vastly improved in Grim Dawn so I hoped that TQ2 will be likewise more varied.

>Name character
>wonder if you can name another character the same name
>you can

>>717680906
But TQ1 is pretty boring. You are not even expected to use mor than one skill, just pump it, pump passives, go forward and hold mouse button over enemy whole healing in meantime. Every single fucking game from the genre have more engaging gameplay - even Dungeon Siege 2, which pretty much WAS all about holding LMB.

>>717682038
*more and *while

I absolutely "love" how autocorrect "fixes" words after you finish sentence, it's like a game at this point. "Oh, you are looking away? Perfect moment to change that word!".

>>717682038
I liked TQ 1, the fights had a weight to them I only found more of in Dungeon Siege 1 and in the 1st Sacred. It had a slower pace, however it did not bore me, I liked the world, the level design and the artistic choice. I'm sure these helped. I prefer it over the faster paced ones usually taking my time with every random satyr mob. I get swarmed enough to press more buttons but this is just one type of gameplay style which I just like. Although DS 2 since you mentioned it, is an exception to my rule, it's an awesome experience! I called out the zoomer for exaggerating as the sperg he is, quickly demonstrated in his reply. "Falling asleep" gtfo boi lmao

>>717682038
I dunno ring of flame+eruption+stoneform was a fun build

>>717682634
DS2 is my guilty pleasure - everyone around, especially editors in various "recalling" articles keep calling it bad and "nowhere near as perfect as first Dungeon Siege" while I disliked first and loved second. Probably because of much faster tempo.

i am playing the slormancer right now

>>717683697
I like it as well. I remember seeing the trailer back in the day and went apeshit with my buddies. When it finally came out, it was the first game that made me upgrade my pc's specs from 256 ram to 512 because it was a slideshow otherwise. Man I had so much fun with it, it was insane! Glad to see another fan of it!

TQ1 no expansions (not even IT) was peak kino

magma balls my beloved

>>717684220
I'd be surprised if you managed to die as Nature/Anything.