I don't see any discussion. The game fell off fast also. A smite clone when smite exists it's just not interesting. I lost interest when I realized how long it takes to kill stuff

>>717673908 (OP)
>A smite clone
retard

>>717673908 (OP)
Hmm, I have started to play the game again. Viper is okay but what I don't like about Deadlock and Dota 2 are the items. They're confusing and difficult to use. I just wish they were static changes and more emphasis was put on your character skills than the extra item abilities

>>717673969
How is it not? Exactly the same concept of a moba with fps elements, even down to the nexus attacking

>>717674473
Smite has 0 verticality and minimal aiming, Deadlock actually leans into the whole shooter idea

>>717674473
Smite's camera is a gimmick, it's functionally no different from a standard MOBA. Deadlock is designed around free aim and verticality

>>717674906
So ... The worst part of smite lol. Yeah this what made it a boring moba. Moba players don't want to deal with aiming at people while they run. It's a game for fucking no one because fps players don't like mobs elements and the hero shooter crowd has no interest in either. Then of course there's smite lmao

>>717673908 (OP)
mobas are garbage and only enjoyed by the lowest of the low retarded niggers
making a moba into an fps doesn't change that

Is crow Vindicta still good?

>>717673969
>>717674473
Spoken like someone that never played either game. And I don't even like deadlock, I'm a dotard.

>>717675219
You didn't say it was better or worse, just that it was the exact same. It's not.
Also it's better, for the record

>>717673908 (OP)
Wait... this isnt right
Its an ivy thread what do you mean ?
No no, didn't we do this already ???

>>717674906
>LOL is not a dota clone because there's no creeps deny in it
That's how retarded you sound

>>717675802
NTA but you're monumentally dumb. Creep denying is a feature Dota has, but Deadlock's mobility is its entire identity, it's an irreplaceable part of its gameplay. Saying
>oh deadlock is like smite if it had no verticality or movement tech
is meaningless.

>/v/ collapses so far into delusion that it convinces itself that a closed beta is the full release

>>717673908 (OP)
Just notes? They took the whole artist.

>>717673908 (OP)
From the perspective of a pure game development, this seems to be a very competently made game.
The problem is that it's not worth playing.
>Extremely complex - full complexity of dota 2 multiplied to a shooter with advanced movement mechanics. Potentially, one of highest skill ceiling games ever made.
>Zero sum pvp game
>Team game where your success mostly depends on matchmaking
>Moba-specific constant tension over the course of a match
Seems to be the new world record holder in terms of how much stress it can inflict on a player.
I will play it if it would be myu full time job with a very high pay. But playing that shit for free as an entertainment? You can't be serious.

Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

>>717674473
>>717673908 (OP)
if this is bait to get people to reply to your thread, then well done. if youre being serious then you need to be banned from posting vee because this is insane retardation.

Flopping tranny deadcock.

>>717675456
Except dota is a good moba
>>717675528
Anon being better than smite isn't a flex.

>>717674906
totally unwatchable gameplay a hundred times worse than overwatch
why are the retards at valve giving so much respect to frogcunt? he didnt even make dota, only took over managment after it already took off. hes a fucking FRAUD! its obvious after making this shitshow slop of a game.

>>717673908 (OP)
>What the fuck are you doing? I'm jerking my balls over here, and this fucking moron's playing Dreamworks?
>I was just trying to update the desi--
>Why? Why now?
>I don't know, it was just...
>Leave the fucking Ivy model, alright? I love fucking scrunkly uglies on my screen. I steal motherfucking totem staves in Oblivion so I can watch warring goblin titties in the morning! Alright? So leave the fucking cocksucking gargoyle how she is! Now why don't you go fix a fucking Fortnite or whatever you do?

>>717676302
>totally unwatchable
>NOOOOOOO THINK OF THE HECKIN E-SPORT SPECTATORINOS......
/v/ used to be about playing games, not watching them

If deadlock was more shooter than moba I'd keep playing it. Should've been more like Monday night combat desu, fuck all this running to the store to buy a 10% increase to my gun mag size and fire rate, pointless gameplay

>>717673908 (OP)
>discussion
What's to discuss?
Lady D?
Bowsette?

Just another FOTM cumbrain meme
It passed, like all cumbrain shit passed
In a year or two you'll be asking "why does no one post umesume horse girls anymore"
cumbrains

>>717676364
kek based

>>717673908 (OP)
THEY RUINED HER
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>717676207
>Except dota is a good moba
Not disagreeing with you here.

>deadwoke

>>717676394
think about people watching the game and then wanting to play it? i dont give a fuck about esports. nobody will want to play this game if they for instance watch a clip of it on tiktok. this shit stinks so bad only tf2tards valve fanboys play it

>>717676662
back in the day we just played video games

you have to know every hero, ability and how fights play out to know what your team is doing because it is impossible to keep track of that during a fight.
same problems as smite but amplified by the map being a huge maze and all the different elevations, movement tech and autistic practiced tricks for each specific building or area

>>717673908 (OP)
Deadlock failed because it doesn't respect the players time. No multiplayer match in any game should be longer than 12 minutes, I'm an adult and I have shit to do and my back hurts if I sit for more than half an hour without going for a walk.

>>717676702
this game was made available basically open beta, every single streamer and gamer played it and then dropped it within a week when they realized it wasnt fun. this shit is DOA if they release it, at best it might get like 100k players and then go back to 10-15k after a month

>>717676949
>streamer
Who?
>muh player counts
What?

Sorry man I just play video games

>>717673908 (OP)
its DOA. irredeemable dogshit.

>>717677086
it's good

it'd shit

>>717676949
keep the suicide hotline handy, tortanicfag.

it's okay

>>717673908 (OP)
It'll prob have its stable european/SA playbase like dota come full release, but i stopped playing when they changed the map to 3 lanes and teleporters. Rotating and ganking felt really fluid when there were 4 and having actual solo lanes was nice.

I went back when they did the shop update but my stack's MMR was too high from before they added ranks so we were just getting shit stomped by people that kept playing in the 6~ month break we took.

>>717677497
>and having actual solo lanes was nice
AHAHAHAHHA, spoken like someone who didn't play on solo lane. Everyone who ended up there always pleaded to be swapped to duo lane and just hope for laining phase to end quickly to play with other people. Playerbase absolutely hated solo lanes which is why they were removed

Where is the redesign before/after OP

As always, lying mouth full of cocks

>>717673908 (OP)
>Moba but with cheaters

>>717673908 (OP)
Game is way too complicated to be fun. It's a moba and a hero shooter combined. If you're making a shooter then most people just want to jump in and shoot shit, they don't want to worry about builds and leveling up.

I enjoy it a lot but it was made for me (10k dotard).

>>717677795
its really not that complicated. follow a build guide. most items are super simple. most items are just basic stuff like bullet resist more damage

I hope the roll back some of the changes to Ivy's face. I like her as a gremlin. The fact she looks like an actual goddam gargoyle that got up and walked off one day is like half her charm.

>>717677651
Yeah its almost like some characters functioned better than others solo? Thats why you could do this cool thing called swapping lanes. I bet people are still crying about trying to get confirming and denying souls out of the game totally too

>>717678289
>Thats why you could do this cool thing called swapping lanes
BUT NONE WANTED TO PLAY THERE YOU FUCKING RETARD. IF FUCKING 12 PEOPLE IN MATCH WANT TO SWAP TO DUO LANE IT MEANS SOLO LANE IDEA FAILED

>>717678289
>>717677497
its so funnyn. i knew people were going to do this shit. just like you have people cry about changes made to dota 15 years ago, you now have people crying about deadlock changes made in a public test. the four lanes was never a fixed gameplay element. nothing about the game a year ago or even today is final product but niggas will cry about a tested feature from invite only alpha and then say the game was good until x y z change and the game was better when it was a half baked idea

>>717677758
the fact people actually believe this retard doesn't use cheats is beyond me
zero personality
zero charisma

>>717678289
>get Mo
>forced to solo against Haze
>nobody wants to swap lanes
>this was before the soul orbs had that short buffer that gave the securer a slight advantage over the denier
>get every single creep denied because Mo's projectile speed is much slower
>get shit on by her just spraying me the entire lane from a safe distance
it's no wonder solo lanes were removed.

>>717678749
he looks like the boss from the Incredibles

>>717677758
cheaters in deadlock are weakest among FPSes and mobas, though.
moba cheaters can nullify every strategic element to the game and evade 99% of projectiles thrown at them.
a FPS cheater can annihilate your entire team in the blink of an eye without you ever seeing them, or even only seeing them for a fraction of a second.
a deadlock cheater has a much less effective strategic awareness, and at best only has optimal DPS uptime, which is something even mere humans can easily manage during moments like a dynamo/mo&krill/holliday ultimate holding them still.

>>717678985
shut up pussy people maphack in dota all the time to boost accounts to sell

>>717675802
isn't there creep denying in deadlock? I haven't booted it up in a long time but anything that dies shoots out these bubbles either team can shoot for resources, and you can deny those from the opposing team. Sure mechanically it's a different version but it's absolutely still denying resources from the enemy team through some skill check

>>717673908 (OP)
Blizzard's fucked cuz they don't have Warcraft III models to rip off, and kimahri.

>>717679079
They've changed it so the team securing the souls gets like an extra 150ms to secure the last hit before the enemy team is allowed to deny it. You basically can't get any of your souls denied unless you're not making any attempt to secure them. It's a pretty irrelevant feature at this point.

>>717679050
what do you even mean by this post? i literally said dota hackers are more impactful than deadlock hackers BECAUSE they do shit like that.
deadlock hacks are just aimbot and walls, but the guns don't do instant kill damage and the map is so huge that wallhacks don't give you super great strategic information

They removed basically all the movement. I won't be playing the game until I can zoom around with 7 stamina bars as the game was intended for. Imagine making a game based off movement, slides walljumps floats H melee tech all for you to kill stamina
Fuck Yoshi and fuck everyone who still plays.

>>717673908 (OP)
looks bad now
>>717674906
i think it's hilarious how these people playing deadlock alone in 2025 are posting webms like anyone is impressed by any of the shit they're doing

show me max range predict hooks into fog

show me 5 man black holes

show me literally anything skillful

>>717679427
autoattacking in dota takes 0 skill, hitting left clicks on deadlock takes skill and aim, what makes you think cheating in deadlock is less impactful than scripting/maphacking in dota?

>>717679702
Said it right here
>the map is so huge wallhacks don't give you super great strategic information
try reading next time

yeah dude nice strategy let me just 100% headshot you with all bullet items

>>717680042
*disarms you*

>>717679702
perfectly CSing in deadlock is inherent, and denies are heavily biased towards the defender; you cannot deny an orb someone is attempting to secure unless they completely fuck up. scripted CSing in dota is completely uncontestable. your income will completely be starved out.
deadlock gun carries, unless given an absurd gold lead, do not instantly win teamfights just by having perfect aim. in fact, in team fights, most gun carries will achieve quite good results due to characters like dynamo, mo and krill, holliday, and lash delivering them immobilized targets. in these cases, the aimbotter and the normal player are literally doing the exact same damage output.
in dota, the objective progress is largely obscured from the team that would seek to interrupt it being taken. this, along with mechanics like smoke of deceit and general ambushing from the fog is completely gone against the cheater. in deadlock, all of the objectives nearly instantly warn the opposing team they are being touched, and the fog of war doesn't even exist. even just getting jumped from a rooftop would still require the cheater to have the presence of mind to turn their camera occasionally and look at potential areas of danger to see if someone is hiding there.

>>717676896
It was mostly because it discourages fighting the enemy.

>>717678090
how the fuck does dynamo drink his tea

>>717680343
Very carefully

Yamato now is a school girl with huge bandangadonkers btw.

>>717680572
The lighting looked better back then wtf

>>717680572
god this UI is a fucking mess

>>717679225
oh that's stupid, may as well not be in the game anymore

>>717678749
Does Valorant even have cheaters with that kernal level cheat detection?

>>717681060
yes

>>717680789
It only does to people who don't know what information is important

>>717680789
It's a Dota clone, a lot of that info is necessary.
I would remove the tower health bars and status effect indicators.
Also the net worth and kill stats shit, put that on a tab menu, and scale everything smaller.

>>717681060
of course

>>717673908 (OP)
It's Icefrog trying to appeal to the TF2 crowd with the DOTA formula. It doesn't work, because no one in their right mind would stick with that format once they know exactly how every game goes. It isn't about your skill with the character, it's about how well you conform to the meta game, and how consistent you can be in doing that. (Which only slightly applied to the Medic in TF2.) There's no room to just fuck around and have fun with no goal in mind in Deadlock, so it doesn't matter how fun or quirky the characters are, it doesn't matter how stylish they are.
If winning depends on absolutely everyone on your team playing competently, and no one can pick up the slack for the others, and if that community will get pissy with you for actually experimenting and trying different strategies, there's no reason to play the game. It's made for a really small niche of people no one wants to play video games with.

>>717681929
>trying to appeal to the TF2 crowd
lol no, you don't appeal to casuals with the most testicle crushing competitive game format you could have possibly come up with. This whole game is an experiment to make the highest ceiling multiplayer game possible it seems.

>>717681658
Any particular reason you picked Dark Willow for this screenshot?

Its been a year and you stupid fucking fags keep having the same stupid fucking conversations about the same stupd fucking game holy shit

>>717682132
Been spamming pos 4 recently

>>717676949
They hate you because you're honest. Never stop, anon.

>>717677758
>Cheating in a tranny chink ripoff of CS
Cheating is for faggots but this might be the worst of the worst

Safe to say this won't hold players even at launch that dude is right, it only held 100k for a very very very short time.

I liked it better with 4 lanes.

>making a MOBA
>in 2025

i liked it better when the development priority wasn't trying to polymorph the game into 3rd person shooter dota

rip bozo

BattleGOD won.
DICE won.
CHADbite won.
Deadslop lost.
SOIce 2 lost.
Gayben lost.

hiring the risk of rain 2 devs was probably the worst thing to happen to this game.

>>717676493
The one time the players actually want an "ugly" female character and the devs cuteify her

>>717685447
can't wait for the overwhelmingly negative reviews

>>717685791
>players
you are a loud minority at best

>>717684568
and when was that?

>>717685907
>implying being part of the masses who need all designs to look like a Disney character is good.

>>717680572
Those VFX are vomit inducing.

>>717681184
>implying there's information there that isn't important
Hence why it's a mess.

>>717681184
this shit should not be on screen bro. it should be a tiny healthbar on the minimap or something

>>717685791
99% of the art even before the rework was her getting cutified and that was even on /v/ threads even when deadlock was just leaked by uncle dane and the threads were invide begging and TF2fags sperging out

>>717686514
>the progress bar for the final victory condition of the game should be confined to a tiny corner of the screen

>>717686538
>99% of the art even before the rework was her getting cutified and that was even on /v/ threads even when deadlock was just leaked
You exaggerate, sir.

>Valve realized that they needed to appeal to China
>suddenly every new hero is now white and all the older designs got less westernized

Apologize to the chinks.

>>717675923
Anyone who wants to play can and already has.

>>717676949
i still play it because i have fun
my only gripe with it is that it almost feels like they purposefully make balance changes shit on purpose, and that they are taking a while to ship updates but that's a given considering it's you know valve

>>717686931
the worst thing about pandering to china is that they ONLY want humans and don't like any unique freaks

>>717686931
post their names bro

>me getting an invite and immediately seeing this game was going to have limited appeal
>me going on deadlock threads during the height of the "muh secret club" mentality and telling people that
>the absolute mass delusion as they all refused to believe I had access, all drunk on the belief it was going to be the next big and any dislike was from people butthurt they didn't get an invite
>that one ivyfag who tried arguing with me that hour long games you can't leave is totally a good way of designing a shooter

I wonder where they all are now. Now that even they've seems to have lost interest in the game themselves. Did any of them realise in hindsight that I did have access now that they know playing the game doesn't magically make people love it?

why did they turn abrams gay?

>>717687350
I'm just waiting for the 1.0 release desu.

>>717673908 (OP)
That usually happens when everyone is forced to play the shit version while the super "secret" version with the content is streamer only access

>>717682132

>>717687309
>not wanting to play subhumans
They need their escapism.

>>717674473
already has more players than smite without public access or marketing lol

>>717686931

I love Priest so fucking much

>>717687510
How the FUCK did they screw up Smite 2 so much?
Hirez actually fucking killed every single one of their IPs it is insane.

>>717687612
I am still mad about Tribes 3.

>>717686931
RELEASE DOORMAN ALREADY

>>717687612
How are you suprised when it happens every time?

>>717673908 (OP)
I don't have the will to learn another bing bing wahoo.
t. dota player for 14 years

>>717687350
Early deadlock threads were genuinely one of the most delusional places in this website. Even pol wasnt that bad.

>>717674473
smite is honestly more fun and has the best game mode ever, arena

>>717687776
>Early deadlock threads
You mean threads after your favorite eceleb streamnigger was allowed to talk about the "new Valve thing" last August. The original early Deadlock threads were spring 2024 and you weren't there.

>>717687612
>we're ending support for all of our other games
>as an act of goodwill, all the skins you bought on smite 1 will be converted into gems that you can redeem for a 50% discount!
>most of the roster from the first game will never get in
>also we're using the worst game engine in the world

>>717686004
normal people like cute characters, yeah

>>717673908 (OP)
Assembly line job game.

>>717688258
>normal people like cute characters
Here you can find attached two characters from Dota.
Try to guess who is considered one of the best of Valve's original heroes fitting with the world, and who is out of place Pixarshit

>>717688650
do people (not russians) consider marci one of the best original heroes? I know she's popular with waifufags but my friends mostly like ringmaster because of john de lancie, not sure which you're trying to infer is shit.

>>717688650
Upper hero is appealing to look at, he's cool. Ivy isn't.

>>717688650
Do people play Marci? I don't really follow DotA that closely but I pretty much never see her in the meme vids I still catch on occasion.

>>717687346
doormanchads rise up

>>717687935
No I mean the early deadlock threads

>>717687346
we don't know their names bro, the only one who might have kept the same name is drifter

>>717673908 (OP)
>Letting trannies dictate and change your game

Never works out good.

>>717688939
Yes but she's better as a carry or offlaner now, and people are leeey about it because she used to be primarily a support.

>>717689187
True, streamers have done irreparable damage to gaming as a whole
Crazy how theres two classes of gamers now

>>717688650
>submissive waifu character
this is how you appeal to low iq brownoids which is 99% of the dota 2 playerbase

>>717673908 (OP)
isnt it still in alpha?

>Make same retard ass thread every single day
>GUISE GAME IS DEAD SEE SEEE VALVO SHOULD BE WORKIN ON TF INSTEAD!!!111111

>>717689648
>He wants the woman in charge
Jesus, go get your test levels checked and drop the onions

>>717691543
>tf2fags out of nowhere
obsessed and also we're getting mvm update soon so Valve still cares about us

>>717687346
I really don't like that Infernus, he was perfect
Wtf is that hair

>>717691760
this is such an embarrassing post

>>717691760 I wouldn't get so cocky, seeing how poorly the matchmaking system was during the summer update, and since the mvm update isn't supposed to interfere w/ the halloween update the matchmaking system might straight up break on us with so many maps

>>717676493
this was made well before the rework too.

ugly gargoyle ivy can't animate well, it's the same reason why nintendo re-did DK's OG rare look

>>717687346
They really went all "We want the Cowboy Bebop" audience with Pocket. Viscous' hat seems out of place

>>717693448
pocket's face is still too soft to pass as spike. they need to sharpen his eyes a bit, little too over feminine.

>>717673908 (OP)
its problem is that it doesn't stand out and it will never leave early development

>>717693856
believe it or not thats desirable in live service games

>>717673908 (OP)
Fell off because their logic was
>"let's create a game that appeals to dora 2 fans and overwatch/tf2 fans!"
Which resulted in a game that both fanbases hate
Dota 2 players hate the aiming for headshots and movement shit
OW/TF2 players hate creeping and building their chars

sex with holiday

>>717692798
>12k of subhuman russians playing deadslop
>subhuman frogposter
kek, like clockwork

>>717673908 (OP)
LOL, just lmao

>>717673908 (OP)
>>717676493
If Valve is smart, which I know they are.
And listened to fans, which it seems they do.
They'd release original Ivy as a free skin day 1.
So you can have both versions of Ivy.

>>717676364

>>717687350
>You're still thinking about it and seething about it
>They've completely forgotten and moved on with their lives
Damn.

>>717688650
>>717689648
Unironically not wrong. Of all the new heroes Marci has 10x the amount of fan created content compared to the rest, and she's literally just the most generic anime girl possible.
You can rave about how cool Ringmaster is but the truth is that he has like 10 pieces of art and 1 SFM video he starts in while Marci has hundreds and dozens.

Low effort reaps higher rewards. This is why every gacha is just filling their games with copypasted multi-colored hair sluts.

>>717686931

WHEN IS THE UPDATE

>>717689268
>>717689187
>Valve lets in streamers and 'content creators' to the Artifact alpha
>Gives them a month of free reign and privliges, lets them balance the game
>Game comes out
>Fucking shit
>Dies

>Valve opens Deadlock secret play test to streamers and 'content creators'
>Gives them free reign to balance the game
>Game goes to shit quickly
>Dies

Why do they do this shit.

>>717687612
There is no point in playing HiRez live service games.
Paladins just died overnight because they laid off ALL devs.

>>717677024
>game shuts down because it's not profitable due to low player count
oops

>>717695817
Bro they still havent made money from deadlock

My friend had a Garterbelt skin commissioned but I don't like it, the face and facial hair are totally wrong.

>>717696113
Who invited hog rider brother to deadlock lmao

>>717695918
And they never will
It will be even worse than artifact
because artifact was at least cheap to make
not that money is a problem to valve, but years of dev work lost certainly is

>>717682132
Because I love her

>>717697227
>years of dev work lost
>a problem for valve
lol

>>717678835
>losing lane as MO
>Against fucking Haze
Just get in there you pussy bitch.

>>717698251
Retard that can't read.

>>717687346
What is the source of this image?

>ASSFAGGOTS but Valve
shant be playing

>>717698408
Mo wins the 1v1 basically for free if you can fucking aim anon. Especially that far back in updates where you could still melee bait parries.

>>717698746
newfag

I was having a bunch of fun, but the hype died down and the updates stopped, so I stopped playing. I think this is for the best, looking forward to a full release a long time from now

>>717698850
He doesn't, I checked.

>>717699538
skill issue

>>717673908 (OP)
>A smite clone
You can't be serious with this shit.

>But it has shooting and over the shoulder view.
Just like MNC and Gigantic.

>>717674906
>design TF2, the simplest most visually cohesive FPS ever
>retain none of that
>make Smite-League-Dota #23243

>tf2 trannies seething about deadlock thread#664567

>>717694498
this is why everygame has 1 turbo feed giganigger and 1 mouth breather that goes 0/12/2
Is the "engineer" a poo? has to be

>>717695102
>seething about being right all along

My two problems with the game:

1. Visual style. Going for this whole 19-20 century occultism and demonology theme is genius but they need to push it harder and lean into Hellboy/The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen character stylization. Right now there are like 4-5 characters who fit into it, mainly Abrams, Infernus, Lash and Geist. Others looks completely random and out of place ruining the theme.

2. Characters kits and gameplay flow. Icefraud approaches hero's kit the same way as in dota with no regard for the "feel" of the kit which is important in a full 3d action game unlike in dota. And what I mean is how hero's abillities feel and play when you use them and chain them into one after another. For example Lash and Beebop (not counting his ult) feel great, Nutty Professor feels awful.

>>717699793
>design TF2, videogame for everyone with practically no barrier to entry since they gave it away in sales/orange box before it became free
>People play and move on or put 2k hours in over 10 years
>design Deadlock, game very specifically not for everyone
>People dump a thousand hours into a closed and "open" beta over one year and become turbo addicts

Hmmm, curious.

>>717700368
>People dump a thousand hours into a closed and "open" beta over one year and become turbo addicts
That's precisely what hasn't happened though.

>>717700561

>>717700368
Deadlock lost like 50% of its playerbase immediately and keeps fracturing that with continually closed alpha-beta bullshit

>>717680841
To be fair, people do get cocky and refuse to secure or deny orbs if they are low on ammo and think you will fall for it.

>>717700368
it's been over a year, if people weren't addicted the numbers would drop to triple digits yet it's still getting 10k+ CCU

>>717674906
That looks fucking awful.

>>717675728
>'THIS IS YOUR FAULT GOD DAMN IT!'
>'Stop right there Lugo!'
>'THEY TURNED IVY, INTO A NON UGLY CUTE THING!'

>>717700368
The average TF2 player's hours are closer to 10k and that game still gets updates solely because the community makes stuff for it. Deadlock wishes it had something like TF2 did. KWAB

>>717694498
>>717700013
The article is bullshit, because I went and saw the original xweet, there was no "codebase from chatgpt"
>hey chatgpt, I want to implement a matchmaking algorithm in my game with [requirements, conditions, things to take into account], any suggestions?
>you should try the [lists algorithms that already exist]
Then he picked one, and studied it and implemented in himself, it was just encyclopedia lookup/.

>>717701067
Game's widely acknowledged to have fallen off in activity. Even the one guy in the steam friends list who was constantly playing has now stopped.

>>717701618
>'Deadlock wishes it had 20 years of fan content!'
No shit

>>717701618
>20 years old game have more contents than a game thats not even out yet
shocking

>>717701618
>game that has been out 18 years has more player time and content than game that has had a closed beta for one year
What a powerful anecdote.
I don't think the average TF2 player has 10k hours, either.

>>717701618
>TF2 is 20 years older and has more fan content
Would you like to know more on this topic?

>>717701618
>hat cave older than zipline cave
u am stumpid

>>717701618
masterclass bait

>>717700363
Mirage is literally captain Nemo from your pic.

>>717701618
>20 tf2
>deadlock 2
AAARGGGH AACK ARRG AAAGGUGGU

>Total in-game player(s) 15,362 players
>Bots in empty servers 2,889 bots
>Bots in occupied servers 1,944 bots
>Continent with most bots Europe (1559 bots)
OHNONONONO AHAHAHAHA

>>717701850
>>717702270
>>717702318
Maybe not a samefag but it's weird you're all spouting the same incorrect number and talking about TF2's content when the anon wasn't really talking about that.

My bait thread is still up and active? God damn

>>717702770
Discordlock likes to run damage control

STOP POSTING TWITTER OR I WILL RAPE YOU

>>717695351
>I can't coom to ringmaster so he's not popular
You an amateur. A true coomer can coom to Pudge

>>717695351
>>717702949

>>717673908 (OP)
cumbrains have a short attention span

>>717673908 (OP)
This will be the first Valve game that is genuinely bad

>>717703453
objectively already better than artifact, underlords, and ricochet
subjectively better than counter-strike 2, which killed all the fun alternate gamemodes to focus completely on aimbotters raging at eachother

>>717681929
>once they know exactly how every game goes
only the people with adderall ridden autistic brain power can retain the entire shopping list of items and their counters while being able to apply it will still be playing the game a year from now

>>717703880
You mean like people do for a million other games? Maybe making this shit necessary to win is part of the problem.

>>717674906
first frame best frame

>>717674473
Retard.

deadlock is fun

>>717703880
Yeah, and they'll bitch and moan at their own teams for not conforming to the meta. Or if they're all on one team, they'll stomp the shit out of the casual players to the point it isn't even fun for either side. That's the problem.

Tryhards in TF2 didn't matter, because there was nothing at stake. There were no permanent consequences for winning or losing games. They'd pubstomp, or enjoy the challenge of trying to carry a shitty team. And everyone else would be able to keep having fun. Their enjoyment of the game wasn't contingent on winning. When matchmaking is the only way to play the game, and the consequences of losing are to get relegated into playing with people who don't know their asses from their elbows and can't communicate, that means everyone suffers.
The tryhard isn't playing the game he wants to, and the casuals are getting bitched at for not being optimal by the tryhards. The whole experience falls apart. Especially in such a technical game

>>717686931
>this is a bad thing achtually

>>717697227
>Valve
>losing money
LOL
LMAO even

>>717704839
5 star post

stopped playing after I ran into two of those in a row
Valve needs to learn from Riot, kernel-level anticheat is a must. Kneel and beg to license Vanguard out if you lack the talent to make your own.

>>717705696
nah, valve is pro-linux

>>717705696
>valve
>having a functional anti cheat system

>>717705696
you clearly just got outskilled *raughs*

>>717687346
I don't appreciate these designs. the men all look faggy, while the women look like dykes and burnt-out feminists.

>>717703453
Artifact was an actually bad game. And this is someone who bought a beta key for 50 bucks. I was so hyped for it. Then I played it and realized the entire gameplay system was fundamentally broken.
I'll never understand how the whole 'arrow of attack' concept made it past even the first fucking draft. Baffling.

>>717708406
You're actually coombrained if you think Vindicta, Geist, and Bookworm aren't conventionally attractive designs.

>mostly play vindicta
>take a break from the game
>come back
>snipeghost meta is just throwing circles on the floor and melting people with DoTs
wtf happened?

>>717709894
they made crow give a bunch of resist melt, you're still going to be sniping people if you're effective
https://files.catbox.moe/uf425b.mp4

>>717709262
>burnt-out feminist hags
>problem glasses
no, I really don't appreciate those designs. I don't want play as any of these. too homosexual for my taste.

>>717710717
>nerd with glasses, big tits and a sweater
>homosexual
you might be the faggiest faggot that has ever cursed this plane of existence

>>717710717
but vindicta is a hebe ghost
sure she's been a ghost for about 200 years, but those years don't count. ghosts don't physically age.

>>717687346
Why is McGinnis not a burly Irishman?
Why is Pocket not a Lord Byron-esque Englishman, and instead some kind of chink?
Why is Wraith a nigger lady, and not something actually era-appropriate?
Why does Bookworm look fucking stupid?
Why does Punkgoat look and sound fucking stupid?

>>717710969
sorry to break it to you man, but if you are into chicks with problem glasses (surrounded by nothing but homosexual men on top of that), you are a fag, plain and simple
>>717710994
cool, still don't like the ugly designs.

>>717711074
>sound fucking stupid
entire final row is temp names for characters that have not yet been implemented
>>717686931

>drifter has bloodseeker passive
>some fucking retard is going to refuse to buy any regen on my team and lane at 50% hp permanently
>i'll have to lane against a drifter with permanent +50 gun damage or some shit
oh fucking boy i can't wait

>>717679692
>show me max range predict hooks into fog
>show me 5 man black holes
>show me literally anything skillful

>implying literally both of those things don't depend on your enemies being retarded more than you being skilful
Retard

>>717673908 (OP)
What the FUCK did they do to my girl

>>717680343
He doesn't, he just ordered it to feel like he was still fitting in

>>717681060
Probably the least amount of any comp game, but still some.

>>717678985
>>717705696

>>717691543
He's keeping the mindshare of the game alive until it fully releases. He's a good unintentional shill.

>>717679692
>show me fake skill nonsense to impress me

>>717677758
>>717678749
he heard them bro

>>717711638
ain't no way you just replied to a 20 hour old post

The real reason Deadlock fell off is because they released absolutely retarded pants on head updates and rightfully got called stupid for doing them.
This caused the devs to seethe so hard that they stopped updating the beta and the hero testing labs and made a super secret beta of nothing but ball suckers, no i'm not making this up.
Right now the beta you can get access too by a friend inviting you hasn't been updated since the beginning of the year and the super secret beta for streamers and such has like 12 new characters and changes lmao.

>>717712076
>ain't no way ye ye ahh blud ass post

Feeble-minded zoomoid

>>717712064
t. guardian 3

>>717694498
That's 100% Hoopo

>>717693331
original DK animated fine, nu-tendo just's retarded

>>717712401
i don't even play deadlock nephew it's an aimlet game

>>717712707
Was talking about dota retard LMAO no wonder you have no clue

>>717712801
>dude you are a retard for not knowing dota ranks in a deadlock thread
aimlet get ye gone

>717713023
my initial post was about dota as well, dumbass

>>717713158
nohands noobs need not apply

>>717705696
Valorant had their own word.exe too and couldn't detect it. definitely not as widespread as valve but Riot utterly refuse to implement their spectating client specifically so that people can't figure out if they played against closet cheaters or not

Ex Valve dev makes fun of Deadlock flopping in beta
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YuaxcntlfLY

>>717673908 (OP)
fuckable

>>717688650
i was disappointed with the dota tv show

>>717673908 (OP)
valve are hacks and scammers. you purchase cosmetics to support them they break the cosmetics and don't fix them for years. when you send in a ticket to steam 6 months after it's broken they tell you to go beg on reddit for upvotes and maybe the developer will fix it. years after stuff breaks it's not fixed and that's stuff you pay for.

valve games are filled to the brim with bots not just bots to increase the "player activity" but trying to earn pennies to make money off steam. they just released an update to invite 200-300k more bots into dota but all they could get is 150k bots and even then they'll only do it for a couple weeks then leave.

developers who only think about trying to scam you are always shit developers without any real passion or creativity. that's why deadflop is just random trash combined together and fails so hard.

the most hilarious post i saw some deadflop tranny saying it's just in closed beta and once valve release cosmetics it's going to get popular. even deadflop trannies know their game doesn't hold value in being a game instead they think once valve invites all the bots to farm pennies the number will go up

>>717712625
nintendo probably didn't want half of his emotes to be eyes popping out of his skull

>>717715875
>betting on battlefield
>betting on EA battlefield

yea nah

Will Ivy ever get a decent job?

>>717717472
bullshit. I'm playing the new dk game at the moment. they do the eyes popping out thing quite a bit

>>717673908 (OP)
can i see this bitch's asshole pleaseeeee???~~

>>717715875
>valve ex-writer can't tell the differente between a promotional beta for a pre-order bonus vs game that got leaked

it's a good game I think people are generally just tired of MOBAS and how you never seem to get better no matter how much you play

>>717712083
Constant balance changes really threw off a lot of people too. You can't even fucking find out if something was balanced or not. Devs just make arbitrary changes with little vision. As expected of modern valve.

>>717718481
>valve developers don't need to fix cosmetics people buy from them
>people need to respect valve developers pronouns it's "closed alpha" not "open beta"
>even though valve has sent out over 1 million invites

>>717717648
Being a waitress is a decent position for a gargoyle...

>>717712083
nu-valve gets more and more pathetic
>>717718570
they're the typical trash developers with their head up their own ass. they actually think they balance the game instead getting the players find the actual balancer.

>>717718570
Continuing this a lot of additions are "What if we added wall jumps, wouldn't it be cool?" tier. The sort of pitfalls a kid making his first warcraft 3 custom map would do. And these designers are getting paid 7 figures for coming up with this shit. I said come up but they are actually copy pasting from other games they saw it from. Just like how they copy pasted the entire item stuff from dota 2 which was copied from warcraft 3 custom map. COPY COPY COPY, but 0 vision.
Fuck this industry, fuck valve, fuck steam.

>>717715875
Chet lost his mind a long time ago, ironically just like his pfp.

I really wanted to like this game but it's fucking garbage, I'd unironically rather play Overwatch

>>717674906
this looks like complete aids to follow

>>717673908 (OP)
I couldn't for the life of me get into this game.

Played like five bot matches and got bored.

>>717675802