Thread 717690058

Yawnfail didn't just kill the game, it killed the entire company

>>717690058 (OP)
Let's see how the community is reacting to this news

>>717690058 (OP)
>The only reason they care is because, in their own words, they need XIV to do well just to fund their countless otherflops

SE camt die soon enough

fire kate and hiroi.

you know what? fire that stealth mission guy too just because its unnecessary padding most of the time and give the fps blowdart guy a promotion.

Wait until the mobile game chud

XIV should have gone maintenance mode after Endwalker. Make a new service game that's more in line with what consumers actually want these days (hop in and out lobbies and fun to replay content with score/time leaderboards).

>>717690058 (OP)
>activist funding
what?

>>717690109
ah yes, its 100% worth it listening to people like the bottom guy if you want to make money
>>717690565
there is no way SE is okay with the state ffxiv is in without secretly working on a new mmo, right?....right?

It's ok, a few more Forspokens and we'll be good

>>717690683
This is also baffling to me. Because ive been told for YEARS that activist groups buying up shares in game companies to force faggotry down my throat was just "an incel chud conspiracy that has no grounding go touch grass UwU". But now they are just admitting it out loud apparently.

>>717691383
>must increase sales to keep relevant
>to do so must implement things that go against activist investors that are pulling the profits down
>but to go against them means to lose your funding

what can square do?

>>717690058 (OP)
>>717690109
I can't believe Baldy killed FFXIV. Why did he do this?

>dumpy making a seethe thread because he got roundly btfo last thread
many such cases

>>717690109
>I'd rather have ffXIV die than let you animals have a say.
Then die.

>>717690109
>Anti-woke
Or as I call them, normal people.

We're going man-mode!
That's right MAN MODE
When you play with me there is only one mode MAN MODE. I don't care if you're watching a cutscene your not entitled to that cutscene when playing with others. I don't need your dps because I'm already doing more than you. I don't need your heals because I'm a WARRIOR MAIN!

woke lemut killed the game

>>717690565
It takes a lot more time and resources to make a new game compared to an expansion. They should have kept working on expansions, but just done a better job. They could have worked on the the new game at the same time while testing out new systems in FFXIV.
You already have an audience to test new ideas on, so you shouldn't even be surprised by reception on release.

>>717690683
>the investor has consistently shown an “aggressive” attitude towards its Japanese investees, making demands for large-scale business reforms, requesting executive resignations and placement of external directors, and publicly criticizing poor management decisions.
Singaporean investment firm that has taken up a large position in SQEX stock in the last year.

>>717690109
>the inclusive and accepting community
>I disagree with yo--
>DIE DIE DIE!!!
Rinse and repeat until these types of "people" infect another game

>>717690683
>>717691383
>>717691473
It's just economic lingo for an investment firm that will buy up companies when their stock is in the toilet in the hopes that they can get a change of leadership going and make it do better in the future. It doesn't necessarily mean the group has globohomo politics.
But who knows.

>>717691604
FUUUUARK DOOD I TOOK BIG DICK DAMAGE TODAY FROM BEING DPEE'D IN MY ESS

>>717691683
I know it would have taken at least five years to come out, if not more, but I think XIV is a lost cause. People just don't want the WoW game model anymore.

>>717691738
I wonder where the roaches will scurry off to when their Second Life-replacement inevitably dies?

qrd on what made dawntrail bad, i havent played since wrapping up endwalker

>square schizo having a melty
>post literally who twitter trying to disprove her information

do people actually play XIV with the english dub?

>>717691884
main story bad
took until 7.2 and 7.3 to improve
a lot of people will check out if the main story isn't good (like with stormblood)

>>717691084
>there is no way SE is okay with the state ffxiv is in without secretly working on a new mmo, right?....right?
FF16 was basically an offline MMO. Maybe FF17 will be another MMO.
It'd set a pattern if we got a new MMO every 3rd mainline game. FF11->FF14->FF17.

>>717691864
That's the thing this game is containment for them. They'll only fuck off when mod support dies for this game which would be never.

Wasn't the MMO the only thing turning a profit? how the hell did they kill their golden goose

>>717691884
Imagine Stormblood except Lyse is there the whole time and she's Naruto and everyone is constantly jerking her off because the player has no reason to give a shit.

Maybe if those assholes didn't drain all the sub/mogstore money from the fucking game and expanded the team we wouldn't have this garbage. SE deserve to eat the chocolate gun.

Dumpy, dumpy, dumpy...

Eh.
They might salvage the company, but XIV is undoubtedly unfixable without an ARR tier revamp and they've already admitted to lack of funding so that might be out of the question. The best case scenario is to coast by with damage control until maint mode

>>717691739
>>717691817
>>717691875
>>717691951
>>717692024
>Lonely autistic Japanese Christmas Cake obsessed with fujo games
No shit

>>717690109
>FFXIV having an unironically trash story arc on top of the endgame loop being stagnant since SB
>FFXI just shuffling FFXIV players into the game out of protest or shilling
>DQX is already too niche even in Japan and gaijins need to set up dqxClarity for translations
Yeah the anti-woke crowd in their head is the problem

>>717691473
tell the investors to fuck off, buy back their company and stop being shit.
videogames fucking PRINT money, you don't need investors.
also why is there someone spamming some homo gacha game shit in here?

>>717692101
square schizo is having a melty, ignore

>>717690058 (OP)
Maybe they should have thought about that before diverting all funds and talent from their golden goose and using it to train interns.

>>717690109
Why would well written characters make you be subscribed longer? Makes no sense. In the end its all about the content.

>FF14 thread
>Love and Deepspace being spammed for some reason
???
Did a bot break?

>>717692101
>fujo

>>717690058 (OP)
>ONE game released almost 20 years ago is responsible for more than 45% of the company's profits
What the FUCK, is the entirety of Squeal Linux funded by FINAL FANTASY XIV: A REALM REBORN?

>>717692184
Yeah I will, thanks for the heads up though.

>>717691993
DEItrail
go woke go broke

>>717692168
I still can't believe they made DQX Offline just to act as a recap and sucker people into buying a sub.

Like for fucks sake. At least let the West have that one.

>>717690058 (OP)
>your dumbfuck company is being kept afloat by a singular MMO
>dedicate 0 budget to that MMO just to pinch as many pennies as possible while you spend a shitload of money on abysmal dogshit
>be surprised when the MMO is struggling to retain its players because of its decrepit engine that the team doesn't have the budget to fix
Square-Enix is the Ubisoft of Japan, genuinely one of the most retardedly run companies in the industry

>>717690058 (OP)
I remember when an anon last week straight up said "the game is growing"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>717691773
pretty sure Singapore is very conservative generally speaking so if anything they might actually force some sense into SQEX management

>>717692234
Literally all their money comes from 14, remakes, and gacha slop. Everything else they've made in the last couple decades has been a massive flop.

>>717692234
The worst part is they take all the money from FFXIV and use it to fund their other failed games. So now that their cash cow is failing things are getting froggy.

>>717692295
>expecting logic from tranny second life cultists

square died after X-2, it was only downhill from there

>>717692216
folder dumpy crashing out

>>717692295
Kek I remember that, some people truly are deluded. I remember people telling him that the game has been downtrending all expansion and he wouldn't have it.

>>717690058 (OP)
Get wo-Get AIDS, die.

>>717690109
The story was shit, in fact it started to be this shit with the Post-endwalker main scenario quests, no one liked the story there and no one likes Zero for her character and everyone was talking about how bad it was, but for some reason no one talks about that and assumes that when people shit on the current state of the game and the story it has to always be about the fucking transgender voicing a stupid character that most players play on japanese, it just became worse with Dawntrail and fucking Poochie, she just sucks dick, I hope she fucking dies in the updates at least, if they have any decency.

>>717691884
The story sucked. The actual mechanical and content problems have been in the game for years but without MSQ propping the whole thing up it just became more obvious to retards

Why couldnt be Wuk Lamat like this?

>>717690058 (OP)
You have been saying the game is dying for years

>>717691584
based

Soon ai will give me my dream mmo. Fuck trannys

Honestly though, I think some people forget that Dawntrail legitimately has become a permanent barrier to entry in XIV.
Not only do you have to play through a massive MSQ story that takes you through all the other expansions just to get to current player content, which is already a big ask, you have to play through fucking Dawntrail.
It's a permanent stain on the MSQ that can only be resolved through buying a skip or the devs deciding otherwise allowing you to skip.
We already know existing players hate this shit, but how on earth are new players going to survive it?

>>717692295
I remember when one anon said he'd give me 100 grand.

>>717692717
They aren't. Also, remember that they intended for the new player skip to start with the 6.x patches. That's why they added that recap journal and re-introduce a couple scions per patch. So no only does a potential new player have to slog through DT, they have to deal with the Zero shit too.

>>717692216
Some poor attempt of square Enix vs gacha again I guess

>Lightning defeats theoretical creator
>Wuk is killing her actual creator in real life
THE MOST POWERFUL FF CHARACTER

>>717692717
New players won't survive it.
The game is cooked.

>>717692627
>Why couldnt be Wuk Lamat like this?

The whole character is absolute dogshit voiced by a mentally ill tranny, you can't salvage that by making her hot unless you're a coomer with terminal brainrot.

>>717690058 (OP)
they committed suicide by adding a tranny... how very on point

>>717691993
they kept pulling resources from it including the actual fucking people who make it and extended their dev cycle to twice as long while delivering half the content with negative innovation

why didn't wuk get her own card in the MtG set?

>>717692717
The same way they survive stormblood and heavensward.
By basing their entire opinion of the expansion on 3.1-3.5 and 4.3-4.5.

>>717692893
Why not? It helps many other characters like yugiri and yshtola.

>>717690058 (OP)
shouldnt have made wuk lamat and then made it even worse hiring a tranny to voice it, 14 will never see a penny from me again

FFXIV will never die. Just look at FFXI, still charging a sub to this day.
Even at the most basic of maintenance modes, lots of deranged RPs will stick with it, keeping it afloat. Just accept this and move on.

>>717692717
Yeah back in endwalker the story from the latest expansion at the time felt like a victory lap. Now you got a huge piece of turd waiting for you.
Yoshi-P is fucking retarded, now the Zod x Hid arc is over. Make that shit optional and let players go start with the new expansion instead of going through 500+ hours of fucking slog.
Dawntrail should had been like a reset from everything but they pussied out at everything. Not letting the Scions take a break, not starting from a new place and let the players enjoy their new start. Shoving Wuk Lamat when no one asked for that shit turning our character into a secondary part of the story.

>>717692717
The EW story skip is the 7th best selling item on the store. So you'll unironically have a lot of new players defending the level of slop in DT going forward without realizing just how good things once were.

>>717693016
please tell me sphene got one

>>717691884
Story bad
Even beyond the terrible character the devs foist on you constantly, the story has zero internal consistency. The writers just forget plot points and events as frequently as they introduce new ones.
Just as a simple example that doesn't generally get a lot of emphasis,
>Godzilla-tier monster gets loosed because of reasons
>This monster is purposefully established as having elemental powers that exert permanent effects; fire that never stops burning, ice that never thaws, etc, unless acted on by a real giganigga's own magical powers
>Godzilla burninates a bunch of plebs as it rampages around the countryside
>Game specifically tells you that their burning wounds were cured by random non-giganiggas
It's just such a simple thing that, if they had simply not established any one thing in this event chain, could have been completely glossed over. But instead they establish a fairly unique elemental power from this monster and immediately ignore the consequences of such power. It's baffling and can only be explained by writing team that not only split the writing up to different members within the same event thread, but also can only occur when none of those writers talk to eachother. So you either have a literal schizo retard of a writer or a team of writers that are all off doing their own thing. It's a total failure of leadership at a foundational level.

>>717693034
Those were the best Expansions.
But a shadowbringers secondary like you wouldn't know lol

>>717693101
FFXIV might not die in the current way it operates but the leeches attached to its body are getting heavier and heavier.

>>717693118
so the only way DT is going to be considered bad is if recency bias is kicking in really hard

>>717693101
XI even fucking itself with post 75 content, is still to this day a better game than XIV ever was and will be

>>717691997
>Lyse
People only hated Lyse because the tumblrites were crying about "white savior complex" because Ala Mhigans were dark-skinned.

As a 1.0 player I hope they burn

>>717693125
Stop skipping cutscenes lol

>>717693121
No DT characters made it in.

>>717693267
This whole thread is cutscene skippers, Youtuber mouthpieces and an insane schizoid folder dumper who was getting lolcow farmed in a previous FFXIV thread.

>>717692717
>some people forget that Dawntrail legitimately has become a permanent barrier to entry

They've been told for years. We thought they would have taken advantage of Endwalker closing up the main storyline as a way to soft-reset the MSQ and let new people start from the "next expansion" but Yoshida is ultimately a Japanese and you can't make them lift a hand to change something until the whole fucking house is burning down. So now they're stuck with a 300 hours entry barrier that ends with a massive turd so there's no one that even dare trying to convince anyone that's worth it. And ti's just going to get worse, I really can't fathom how they can be so fucking stupid.

>>717693267
Name the cutscene that explains it if you aren't shitposting (you are)

>>717693267
>You don't understand you have to eat the poop with me!
>If you don't like eating poop leave!

>>717690262
Sad part is if they invested back into XIV and not use its profits to fund their other fuck ups Dawntrails probably be doing better.

This Graphic from the latest Lucky Bancho is also interesting:

>Total: 878,336 players.

>Active/Returning: NA has the most returning and active players.

>Gold-Clear: Players who finished the main quest.

>Gold-EA/CE: Players who paid for the pre-order bonuses.

>Conclusion: NA has the most returning players, but JP has the largest player base overall.

>>717692101
>fujo
Learn what a fujo is you fucking retard

>cost by for years on the fact your mmo is your biggest money maker
>botch it

>>717691921
do people actually pay attention to a "go fetch 3 wolf pelts" "story"

>>717693379
>JP has the largest playerbase
>301k vs shy of 397k
what

>>717693405
learn what gacha fujo mean you fucking retard

>>717693379
We're going back to comfy niche JP game bros. Fuck yeah.

>>717693189
Yeah. But nothing will come of it.
Only thing that would kill XIV is the death of SE itself, and that just won't happen. They're too big to fail.
>>717693241
Irrelevant to what I said. I'm not saying XI is bad, but it's been in maintenance mode for ages.

>>717693379
NA will always hold the most active playerbase because of mods. If mods were destroyed NA playerbase would be cut in half.

>>717693365
yoshida cites their current workplace lack as in manpower not in money
money does not actually make employees appear when he snaps his fingers
this game won't ever go AAA, no MMO will if it values its own profitability

>>717693172
People made fun of the story as it came out. You'd know if you actually played.

>>717692295
remember when the q1 2025 luckybancho results during q1 2025 were way lower than during q2 2025?
i member

>>717690058 (OP)
legacy player, took the out at the end of EW. never looked back. I'm never coming back SE. kys

>>717693260
Fuck you.
I hate Lyse because she's a boring crybaby loser and a complete retard who accomplishes fuckall. Should have been Raubahn's expansion if you needed a lead Mhigger.

>>717693172
>Those were the best Expansions.
not for story
and if we're not talking about story, then dawntrail is good

>>717693635
you're going to see fino fanto threads and SE stockholder threads completely LOSE their FUCKING MINDS when dawntrail gets its typical 0.4 to 0.5 player climb

>>717693379
Lmao how is Crystal still larger than Aether. The power of coom is strong.

>>717693172
what are you a fucking arr secondary?

>>717692295
uh oh dumpy having another meltdown? stop posting this fake chart dumpyfag

>>717693546
You are correct, my previous summary was wrong. NA's total character count (396,765) is higher than Japan's (301,076). However, Japan has more active (29,319) and returning (28,918) players than NA.

>>717693725
>completely LOSE their FUCKING MINDS
I'm already seeing that and it's just 7.3.

Flops that have been released during the time XIV was feeding SE:
>Balan Wonderland
>Foamstars
>XVI
>Dissidia NT (Why oh why make it an arcade focussed 3v3 you fucking idiots)
>Left Alive
>Babylon's fall
>Forespoken
>FFVII Battle Royale
>Kingdome Hearts Pokemon Go Clone
>So, so many mobile FF games that go axed
>(still in production) Their Amongus clone
>VIIr did not qualify as return of invest

Those are all that come to mind, feel free to add more.

>>717693816
>Imagine if they used that money to hire more people for SE team and improved the entire game.

>>717693725
Even if 0.4 or 0.5 climb again, the overall loss is absolutely staggering.

>>717692234
If it hasn't been obvious up until now, SE is run by incompetent buffoons.

>>717693727
There's more Aether players in Balmung's Ul'dah than Balmung players themselves. The entire reputation of 'Balmungers' has been dead for years and is entirely upheld by deflection of . I know more Balmungers that stay on Mateus now because there's actual RP there.

>"HD" game sales
high definition? or is it something else?

>>717693429
common /v/ myth

>>717690058 (OP)
>let's completely take over everything about this game and push larry fink's agenda!!!
>Noooooooooo where are the prayers?

>>717692387
Why would they do that? The point of a gaas is to earn a revenue stream to fund other projects.

>>717693901
what loss? MMOs would KILL to have even ziv's current "tumbling" population

>>717693961
nah HD Stands for games that arent mobile

>>717693967
>revenue

>>717693961
HD is literally just console games.

>>717690058 (OP)
>particularly the MMO division
Troon so powerful, he 41%s the game he appears in

>>717694052
GW2, SWToR, GW2, TESO and WoW are all doing better
And that's not getting into the gacha games hard-mogging ziv.

>>717694137
gw2 is such a sequel you listed it twice
>TESO
automatic "i am an autistic golem obsessed with numbers" choice of MMO, what a completely miserable game to play

>>717693347
*casually ignores ur post for the rest of the thread*
Nuffin personnel chud

>>717693101
FFXI is only alive because it piggybacks off XIV's servers and it cost them pennies to run. They have no reason to kill it until everyone quits.

>>717693321
Why reply to your own post?

>>717694347
even then they might genuinely forget the servers are still up and just let it linger ad infinitum

>>717693741
I'm a 2.1 secondary

>>717692295
will someone explain one day what the green, red, and blue portions of the bar represent??

Asmongold talked about your game, he shat on your game.

>>717690058 (OP)
So will they actually fire Kate for this blunder? She's obviously big part of the issues.

thank god they hired kate so retards can flail at her all day

>>717690109
FF had the most toxic and fake community I've ever seen. They got labeled as "the nice online community" and then took that shit to the extreme by trying to enforce some kind of social code. The worst part is that the moderation enabled them and the community recognized it, so they started wielding it as a weapon. I am so glad that now that they are reaping the consequences of their shitty behaviour they all throw a tantrum with their impotent rage.

>>717691993
>how the hell did they kill their golden goose
Because their golden goose was held together with duct tape, popsicle sticks, and prayers. And made no attempt to re-invest in it beyond the bare minimum.

>>717690109
Assmongoloid and his entire class of contemporaries (funny face streaming) are just stupid. That's why I don't think of him 99% of the time The 1% happens when I come across the contingent of rabid leftists who think he's the devil in the flesh hell-bent on destroying their latest pet cause.

>>717692168
The 24 man is making me interested in unsubbing and subbing to FFXI not going to lie.

>>717694584
just wait for the new expansion media tour to see if she's still translating for yoshida.
that's when you decide if SE gets your money or not.

>>717691921
I'm used to the English voices, but next time I have a sub I'm going to switch, just to try it out.

>STILL no fanfest announcements
They're either cooking the biggest comeback the MMO industry has ever seen (after 1.0) or they're truly DONE.

>>717694705
Funny enough he saved your game

>>717690109
>le wholesome chungus leftie tranny turns out to be the most spiteful and hateful person
like poetry

so kirin mentions having shed mortal form. does that mean alxaal is the warrior of the crystal player character in the small amount of time he's a creator god in ff11?

i'm also pretty sure ealdnarche is addressing the player in his phase change

I'm a legacy player and I quit because it was so bad. Its unlikey they will ever do the things needed to fix it enough for me to resub. Feels bad man. 458 days of playtime gone

>tfw miss 2010s FFXIV because the second lifers / troons had yet to hit critical mass
>tfw miss rping as a racist ishgardian with a bunch of other likeminded people

>>717694808
why the hell would it matter
they don't need to announce fanfest during a live letter or have the same set amount of time between fanfest announcements and fanfest being held

>>717692213
Because whether you like it or not, the cement that binds everything together is the MSQ. If the msq is shit everything will fall appart. Dawntrail has had some of the best designed fights in a long while, whether it's dungeons, trials or raids. And yet, that expansion killed the will to play for so many people. People may mention the stupid patch cycle length, the delays, and many other things, and they are right these need to be fixed, but the msq being shit is the big fucking nail in the coffin.

>>717694919
Holy Terror?

>>717694489
Blue is new character that got a cheevo beyond the free trial
Red is active character that got the cheevo for finishing the current patch
Green is active character who either hasn't finished the current patch, or has their cheevos hidden on the lodestone.

>>717694919
>racist ishgardian
Not outside of Ishgard, I hope? because that'd be like coming to Africa and complaining that there's niggers everywhere.

>>717694859
>458 days
anon, that' just 15 months of sub if you really started at 1.0 that's nothing

>>717692717
>Dawntrail legitimately has become a permanent barrier to entry in XIV.
My guy there's already a fucking barrier to entry with FFXIV. It's called the 200 hours of MSQ it takes to even get to DT. And you can't even play with friends. Unless you don't mind doing dungeons with them.

>>717693379
>>Total: 878,336 players.
CHARACTERS... not players

>>717695163
It's a LARPer. I'm at 960 days and I've taken numerous breaks and have played since 2.0

>>717695252
if thats are just characters.. oh god this is bad.. this is really bad...

>>717695129
But that's the fun part.

>>717693625
anons will ignore this post when its 100% correct, they simply do not have enough people to do more and they're in a fucked situation where any potential new hire has to
>know Japanese
>be willing to work on a decade old MMO
>have the skills to work on an mmo
>be willing to work for SE

First one is obvious which also makes it really hard to get people because if you're someone that has the skills to work on an mmo you're not gonna actually want to work on an mmo because they are kinda career deadends, and really if you're someone that could work for SE you'd rather just try and work for Nintendo or any other Japanese gaming company.
And outsourcing is out of the question because of the communication aspect and the sheer amount of interconnected stuff in the game not to mention their very tight schedule, people say new major patch every 4 months is long but it really isn't in the grand scheme of things, and on top of the patch work they have to start working on the next expansion as soon as the current one is out of the door, a bit of a pickle.

>>717695239
>Buying an MMO and paying for all the expansions just to pay again to skip the content
Imagine doing that

>>717695026
I really felt like we got a monkey's paw with DT.
>I want a gameplay experience that outshines the MSQ for once!

>>717695163
458 days of play time is 11 thousand hours.
that could be a very long time depending on how many hours a day you play.
>>717695239
they should really rename these things to just "story skip boost" so retards can actually find it.

>>717695448
okay anon but I want to make an alt on another region to play with a friend and I have a job so I'm not replaying all of the MSQ again even if I do like it.

>>717695318
If we assume an average of 2.5 characters per player, the estimated number of accounts would be roughly 351,334 (from 878.336 Characters)

Could be this Number be correct?

>>717695359
You'd just make yourself look like an obnoxious idiot.

>>717690058 (OP)
literally all they had to do was kill off cuck lemutt and fire kate. those were the two (2) (ni) things they had to do, and they couldn't even do one (1) (ichi).
i'm done with tab targetting mmos anyway. there aren't any good ones left.
>b-but wow--
blizzgroids don't respond to me

>>717693267
You first, because everything he said is accurate. Valigarmanda's flames are eternal. Even after he dies, the flames he inflicted on the countryside 80 years before are still burning. This is actually a plot point in one of the sidequest chains, so it's not simply visuals they forgot to remove. Yet all the Yok Huy that were burned when he broke out of his seal are all just perfectly fine afterwards.

>>717695534
I have 2 active characters. And everyone I know has also 2-3 active characters.

>>717695534
every player has at least 5 alts however
it's even worse

>>717695534
>an average of 2.5 characters per player
Most people do not play more than one character.

>>717693379
Has Bancho ever surveyed KR/CN datacentres?
It's funny that there's a big XIV population there but everyone just ignores it because there's a 3rd party publisher or something

>>717695458
I have 465 days and I started in Stormblood, yes I played a lot because I was unemployed but I've also taken breaks, you'd think someone that has played since 1.0 would have more hours than me.

>>717695642
Cope. Most players have multiple characters.

>>717695569
I'm just gonna keep playing BDO until Aion 2 comes out and see if that will be any good.

>>717693627
I know who this is

>>717695381
Complaining about 4 months between patches always struck me as scraping the bottom of the barrel for shit to complain about. ZIV's update schedule is fucking break-neck compared to basically any MMO that's actually survived over the years and the devs tell you to drop it until you see something you want to do if you're bored, or even drop it for super long periods and then come back when you feel there's enough to warrant coming back for. It's just a very strange complaint.

>>717695182
>>717695239
i kinda wish to get into ff14, is the free tiral enough to keep me entertained? are there any people doing old content or can i do it solo?

I'm so glad this woke expansion is a dumpster disaster. They'll never hire another tranny again hopefully.

>>717695748
We just need more shit to grind
Most players play for 5 hours on patch day and that's it.
Content has no longevity.

>>717695643
wtf, i thought fujoshitas were all fat?! at least the ones i knew were flat and ugly

>>717695129
>coming to africa
>coming to
Shouldn't you be stabbing white farm owners in the kidneys, boy?

>>717695708
Cope about what? You making shit up? FFXIV is extremely alt unfriendly, there's zero reason to have more than one character unless you're some sort of a super roleplayer.

>>717695569
Playing devil's advocate here, but wuk is more or less "dead" now. The "Lyse-ifying" of the character is finally done. But they have also shown that the next big bads are STILL Ascians so story might get EVEN WORSE than it is right now.

>>717695816
you can solo everything, and the game is designed so that people still do old content (there are duty roulettes that reward people for queueing)

>>717695748
but it was 3.5 before when we had half the dialogue and VA in a patch that extra half is a world of difference reeee

>>717688068
kinda forgot about my post but if you're here and feel like taking a crack
I know it's bad just didn't think it's grey bad
https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/a:Qpw36qTkfC4JMzXg/5/16

>>717695914
Eorzea is the Africa of Eitherys.

>>717695916
EVERYONE has at least 3 alts you cultist. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

>>717695534
why would we assume that? most do not even play with an alt, and if they do the alt is usually not at the same level or even the same expansion as their main and Luckybancho specifically ignores everyone who isn't in dawntrail which just makes his numbers extremely biased and unreliable because tons of people play this game but just aren't at Dawntrail yet

>>717695816
Free trial's an insane amount of stuff to do, every single expansion was at one point The Entire Game and you get three of them to explore and play through totally at your leisure.

Plenty of people do old content because of the way daily roulettes work but you'll probably struggle if you want to look at old Savage instances because you don't have access to the Party Finder as a free trial member. You'll also struggle with things that require gatherers/crafters or materia because you don't have Market Board access, which means you'll be forced to level those jobs up yourself and grind out the materia yourself, which adds an enormous timesink to things that are already a timesink.

>>717693287
>Zodiark
>umbral

>>717696026
I don't drink or smell slop, thank you very much. Do you have any evidence backing your claims or was it revealed to you in a dream?

>>717695681
let's not get into a dick measuring contest.
the company should be seeing people like this quitting as a tragedy, 11 thousand hours is long enough to become a master at several skills.
if you worked even a shitty job that's enough time to buy a house or something. it's a visible percentage of a human lifespan and your company lost their grip over it.

>>717696026
>has at least 3 alts
...to do what with?

>>717693967
The MMO division is almost entirely XIV whereas the other divisions are many different games which have a shorter lifetime. XIV is far from the majority of the company revenue but it is consistent and cheap (highly profitable) which makes it the financial backbone of the company.

>>717695547
>t. l*l*

>>717695745
I don't think you do, but if you do what's up.

>>717696141
You can't be this desperate. It's time to stop deluding yourself.
It's fucking over. The glory days of the game cam and went, and the sooner you accept that we're just sliding down into mediocrity more and more with each patch, the happier you'll be.

>>717696169
No, you insufferable cretin.

>>717695816
Just don't make your character on the Dynamis datacenter and you'll be fine.

>>717696027
Playing with friends on different data centers.

Bypassing raid loot lockouts.

Having a separate character for role-playing.

Re-experiencing the main story with a new character.

Trying a new look before using a Fantasia.

Imagine having XIV nostalgia. Game is 10 years old wtf.

>>717690109
>I'm going to join this MMORPG, and turn it into an MORPG, because I can't stop being a fag

>>717695748
it's really just a point only makes sense if you're a neet that nolifes ffxiv or a youtuber thats desperate to get content more often to make videos on, which if you're a neet you have literally so many games you can play why are you nolifing fucking ffxiv and if you're a ffxiv only youtuber you only got yourself to blame.
meanwhile I feel its good to have 4 months, I can do what I want at a regular pace and still have time to play other stuff.
>>717695845
>We just need more shit to grind
this really is the easiest solution to please everyone, I personally think the relic needs to be in x.1 in the future even if its just something as simple as grinding atmas again, nerf it later for people with lives.

>>717694854
Alxaal won't be the player character because they're not going to canonize a random OC as THE Warrior of Crystal. But I think he's an actual player from the real world. In FFXI there's a scene where Kam'lanaut also looks directly at the camera and realizes that the player has arrived to fight him.

>>717696239
Holy shit, is that the man himself, the hater of bleating she-goats?

>>717695239
>$60 for base game plus expansions till DT
>have to either pay ANOTHER $30 to skip poochies origin story or it becomes a race against time to catch up
>>717695748
>drops a patch that barely has 1 days worth of content on launch
>next actual piece of content doesn't even drop for another 2.5 months
>yoshitpee tells you to take a break from ziv if you're bored
>"oh but don't unsub! Just stop playing! that way you can come back anytime!"
gee I wonder why
>>717696026
unironically alts in this game are the biggest waste of time imaginable. why the FUCK would you need an alt for

>>717696331
The week 1 demiatma bitching though.

>>717691473
Shouldn't have betrayed Nintendo.

I warned all of you.

>>717693816
>Dissidia NT
I'm still mad

>>717692295
I saw this expansion being shit a mile away and noped the fuck out of my subscription during EW. I left behind two M plots too.

>>717690109
People like that are genuinely going to be the reason why humanity eventually dies off
Contrarianism to the end

Dumpy must've breathed a sigh of relief when this report came out.
His reprieve from 7.3 being well received.

>>717696459
Everyone is, anon.

>>717696407
>drops a patch that barely has 1 days worth of content on launch
Like 6 hours of story developed for four months is exceptionally good for game dev all things considered. Think of the dev time for the average 20-40 hour game.

>>717690109
based
where's that trans coded MMO tho

>>717696287
You don't play the game.

>>717696514
he shouldn't unclench just yet, the quarter was still listed as profitable overall

>>717695925
>but wuk is more or less "dead" now
like 3 decimal patches too late brother

>>717693816
Oh hey, it's that reddittor
You forgot to mention Rebirth aka Ubisoftbirth aka Stillbirth aka Redditbirth that sold 2x LESS than XVI

>>717696501
>Contrarianism to the end
It just keeps happening.

>>717690109
holy projection batman

>>717696364
The comparison never actually occurred to me, but now that someone points it out, it's spot on.

>>717696578
yes i did i had alone for rp so many different characters

>>717696287
>Playing with friends on different data centers.
ok yes but thats very niche and only worth it for different regions now
>Bypassing raid loot lockouts.
extremely niche and only turbo autistic raiders do this or people with 2 groups, so again turbo autistic raiders.
>Having a separate character for role-playing.
again not everyone roleplays this is not a majority
>Re-experiencing the main story with a new character.
cool, we got NG+ now and again a lot of people dont do these
>Trying a new look before using a Fantasia.
ok but this goes back to the fact that Luckybancho does not count this because its not a lvl 90+ character, and the need for it has drastically dropped with all the free fantas and them lasting an hour now

Like all of these are valid-ish reasons but they're not something majority of people do, most do just play on one character and half of these are ignored by lucky anyways so you cant use it to try and assume most people have 2.5 characters.

>>717696287
>Re-experiencing the dogshit main story with a new character.
its insane to me that people willingly do this

>>717696412
>"we want grinds!"
>adds atma grind
>"We want less grinds!"

>>717696602
Eh, let him have his cope.
Barring them really shitting the bed, the usual upswing is ahead of us. FanFest, the content patches, finale of the raid series, the buildup to 8.0, etc.

>>717696634
That screencap is cope. You can hate gays and have a pretty exciting life.

>>717696670
DC travel exists now and you can use fantasia without spending it and preview any changes with an active Fantasia. Or just install Glamourer.

>muh HOMOgenization

always a shitter take with these ones.

>>717696119
He's not on the 1st anon.

>>717696837
>people who play the game want grinds
>people who hate playing the game want to get their glowshit and hurry back to Limsa
Woooowwwww

>>717696837
"its too rng i want to be able to get the relic within a day this is bullshit rng is da poop :((("

So what do you think how many active Subs does FF14 have? More than 1 Mio or less than that?

>>717695381
AI can solve a lot of their problems. Except 8.0 to be 90% AI generated on the code side and a massive improvement. The dialogue, translation, and everything else will be bigger and better than before.

>>717696904
They're not swapped on the First, lorelet. What's different on the First is the terminology. I honestly don't get how this is confusing for so many.

>>717696823
it's not that different from replaying any other Final Fantasy and for some its a decent way to use your sub very late into an expansion, but it is pretty useless nowadays with NG+ unless you really want to have the experience of leveling up and getting gear again. and some do it with an alt they plan to do other things with, but it sure as fuck isnt common

>>717696943
Less than 1m.
During a fully healthy expansion I assume that it bounces between 900k and 1.2m.

>>717696213
Yea I do you play on Primal and main RDM.

>>717695968
Suzakus a weird fight in general. You need to hold your burst for when the boss comes back at the start.
Outside of that just follow what the analysis is telling you and make sure you're fitting all the correct GCDs under your buff.
I assume you're just dropping GCDs by not pressing them on CD which is important for re-lining up your burst which is why it becomes awkward.
Just focus on uptime and doing your burst properly.

>>717691084
Did you play FF16? It was a piece of SHIT.
Of course they are fine with it.
JRPGS have not changed in 30 years and people are FUCKING SICK OF THIS SHIT
If they dont do something different (AND GOOD) then its over and I say good riddance
I was a big FF fan as a youth, but not now. Not this GAY SHIT.

>>717696607
They literally couldn't do otherwise most likely, they wrote from 7.0 to 7.3 in one block beforehand. What they could have done is not writing such a shit character and story to begin with.

>>717696665
>saaar I rolplayeded needfully with a lot of players saar

>>717690109
notice how he didnt deny any of the stated claims

>>717696994
You're the one upset about the card set on the source using the source's terminology bro.

>>717696331
>>717696412
I don't even bother making glowy relics anymore. What the fuck is the point?
Occult Crescent I would have done more of but there was fuck all for rewards and no normal Forked Tower, so I played that for a day and logged off.

>Game is literally dying
>I-I-I-ITS ASMONGOLDS FAULT!!!!!
Holy kek cope

>>717696521
>6 hours of story developed for four months
anon chink casinos pump out a better 5 hour story alongside more content that mogs ff14 every month.

>>717697115
It's not Source's terminology. In the Source's terminology, he is Astrally-aspected. In the First's terminology, he would be Dark-aspected. That is the difference between the two worlds, bro. Stop speedreading.

>>717697026
I really get tripped up when oGCDs start not quite aligning with GCD and I need to clip etc.
But yeah I did slip up badly in there just didn't think that badly. Never got a decent parse doing EX in EW either (well did get some green stuff), although for whatever reason I was at least blue with 6.0 PLD.

>>717696880
>DC travel exists now
not between regions (yet) so an alt is needed for that, they've said its very possible but they've not done it because of "culture clashing" basically they know JP would get invaded by the worst of westerners and Oceania would probably actually die.
>>717696880
>you can use fantasia without spending it and preview any changes with an active Fantasia.
really? I dont use fantas so didnt know that.
>Or just install Glamourer.
yeah well true but I kept mods and third party stuff out of it just to show the average nonmodding player has little reasons to make an alt.

>>717697035
You definitely didn't. XVI was great

>>717697202
Retard.

>>717697298
maehiro slop

>>717697176
Post the content.

>>717696837
I wanted the atma grind for each weapon, enough with the stupid one time steps.

>>717697176
>chink casinos pump out a better 5 hour story
No they don't

>>717697327
Better than DEIbirth

>>717697117
>What the fuck is the point?
to look good.

>>717697024
I played RDM for a single patch in Shadowbringers for a casual group that didn't make it past the 2nd turn, that's also an alt character.
So unless you were in that group I'm prolly not your guy.

we have any sippers in here?

>>717697317
That's what I thought, lorelet bitch. Sit the fuck down.

>>717696239
>self-hating elezen
Cringe.

>>717690058 (OP)
Not even to say the game is in a crazy good state or whatever but this isn't actually that crazy. 7.2-7.25 is all that's included in Q1 and it's still among their highest earning quarters ever even accounting for the weakened yen. im sure they'll want to increase the trend no doubt but it's honestly not that crazy desu the Q1 post endwalker drop had a similar dip. All said and done I would guess FY2026 will be like the 5th or 6th best earning year for the game, lowest post covid era ShB but still good and profitable nonetheless.

>>717695534
I'd assume 1.3 or 1.5

>>717697340
never ask a gachaddict to post gameplay

>>717697176
Here's your content bro

>>717697216
Yeah just practice hitting on a dummy for a bit and get comfortable with how things line up.
Like the analysis says though that's mostly just an always be hitting the boss issue so your stuff lines up later.

>>717697397
Glowshit has almost never looked good, since the particle effects always override whatever mesh or texture work the items have. Majority of those items would have looked much better without the stupid glow.

>>717697514
No, I'm curious now. I wanna see what vaunted content they have that mogs XIV so hard.

>>717697176
hahahahaha. I fucking love visiting these threads for the certified gold retard shit you schizos come up with.

>>717690058 (OP)
>an entire community of cheaters
Nothing of value was lost. Hopefully XIV classic will have anti cheat and won't be shackled to a 12 year old console.

>>717697454
>being an obnoxious idiot that roleplays his character as a joke is self-hating

>>717697467
it really is just all about perspective but also the fact people online just cannot actually read these numbers

>>717697467
>>717697672
Less players, as shown by LB = less money.
Shove your perspective up yo bussy, playa.

>>717697486
1.5= ≈585.557
1.3= ≈675.643

if i would be Yoshi-P i would try it to keep it up over 675.000

>>717697436
You realize you just proved him right right?

I should probably sub and play trough shadowbringers before they shut down the servers.

>>717697917
>before they shut down the servers.
not happening anytime soon

>FF14 is one of the only things keeping SE alive
>"Let's ignore it while it's at the height of it's popularity and divert all funds from the game into other projects that immediately flop"
>"Great idea CEO-san! It's never worked before but maybe the 100th time will bring dividends!"
>"Uh-oh it didn't work and errr, we also neglected FF14 for too long, we made it boring and shit with a tranny VA in the West so get this, I, that is YoshiP told our paying subscribers if they didn't like the game to go play something else"
>"Ok, that sounds retarded please tell me they didn't listen to you"
>"Well...err you see, they kinda did CEO-san they left FF14 and stopped subscribing, you see I didn't tell them to unsub I mean for them to quit while keeping their sub so you can't blame me, it's not my fault!".

How bad is the voice compared to other languages?

>>717698105
eh, personally, after interphos, i've not been too bothered

>>717698029
you ever wonder why yoshida's only ever complained about not having enough employees, and never complained about not having enough money

money's not a problem. pushing more money into FFXIV won't do anything for it but allocate more funds for server upgrades and bullshit like that

>>717690058 (OP)
Kate status?

>>717698105
honestly just fine mainly because Wuk doesn't actually get to say much and very little of what she gets to say actually requires much emoting, sena will still sound like a generic shounen protag when screaming but thats like 1 scene so whatever.

>>717690058 (OP)
Maybe they'll try to make good games now.

>>717697765
Yeah no shit? I didn't say otherwise, I'm just saying I doubt Square is in high alert over making 20 million in OI off a subpatch. If it were say like an expansion or something pulling those numbers I would say there's cause for concern.

>>717690683
>>717691383
newfags.
this is what gamergate was about. it was found out that "activist funding" was heavily pushing a cultural narrative in games. the marxists financiers are heavily using games to influence culture in children.

>>717698189
>More money won't hire better and more talented writers
Then it's a problem with the management.

>>717690058 (OP)
>>>>>>>>Shareholder Yuzu
>The stealing emulator team
That's what these snoyfags get for siding with no good thieves abd cheaters

>>717698349
no, try again

hint: it is related to the fact it is an MMO

>>717697625
Glory to Ishgard, should have never rejoined the Eorzean Alliance. Now we have Mhiggers walking around like they own the place.

The lesson to learn from all this is that you never go against WoW. It's bad omen. It's protected by higher powers way beyond your underarstanding.
Look at all the tragedies that befell those that dared to make such a foolish mistake.
WoW is king.

>>717698105
The american VAs stand out quite a bit. Like, you have one of the legacy VAs doing their bong thing sounding all eloquent and shit, and then here comes american white woman doing generic anime voice.
And also the tranny is still, of course, a tranny.

>>717698543
So true, lmao. Remember back in 2021 when these fags got all cocky even though even then WoW had like 5x more subs than XIV.
And WoW has gotten like 3x the subs it had then while XIV is down to 10x the subs it had then.
Completely mogged to the grave and back. Good riddance. /spit

>>717698112
gulool ja is a shitty character.

>>717698543
The lesson is, you don't gut the team behind your most successful cash cow.

>>717698458
You don't need knowledge of 10 year old equipment to understand centering the story around your all new OC no one likes and people have told you they don't like is a terrible idea.

don't you get bored of doing this day in day out dude?

>>717690058 (OP)
I bet that, even with this, there will be people saying that FFVII Rebirth wasn't a failure.

>>717698669
WoW has been dead for years.
There are more people playing XIV and OSRS.

i'm currently subbed to XIV
but everytime Square suffers i rejoice regardless

>>717696538
>where's that trans coded MMO tho
Right here

>>717698760
no not until yoshitta resigns

>>717698669
wow completely deserved it thoever.
the only difference between wow then and xiv now is, SE isn't going to clean house in an attempt to get xiv back on course.

>>717698760
Do you?

>>717698809
How will shitposting on 4chan help that goal?

>>717698731
>but the MSQ!
no, try again. that's not why yoshida has problems getting staff. we were talking about cash influx into FFXIV and why that won't change its staffing situation with is where the problem has lain since ARR

>>717698768
We've redirected all blame away from the Ubisoft clone please don't mention it again unless it's a positive statement
t. Nomura cultist

>>717698682
no he's a good boy

>>717698607
>Buying an account
lmao
I'm at 3750 days subscribed and I didn't play the entirety of endwalker.

>>717690058 (OP)
>HD game sales
What year is this?

>>717698607
Nice try, but I think I got you beat there.

>>717698607
I can also edit the html

>>717695569
Hiroi is still the lead writer. Even without Wuk, he'll just introduce another shitty character to take the spotlight. He'll still write one-dimensional characters going from plot beat to plot beat with zero development. He does it EVERY time.

>>717698813
>the only difference between wow then and xiv now is, SE isn't going to clean house in an attempt to get xiv back on course.
did wow?

>>717699017
HD games is just the term they use for console games, pretty much every JP company uses it

>>717699175
i wonder if his japanese plays are out there on the internet.

>>717699175
Maybe he's been shitcanned alongside Kate

>7.3
>wasting voiced dialogue and characterization on literal who npcs we'll never see again

jesus christ. oblivion is trash.

>>717699097
I see you took the Endlesspill.

>let's put our golden cashcow in the hands of filler content makers and western dangerhairs
>what could POSSIBLY go wrong?

>>717699175
>ruins your game
can we get rid of the theater kid please?

>>717698882
>No no no it's not actually the thing every ones complaining about
>They can't just hire better writers
Yes they can, it's a problem with management. Having an obviously sub-par writer deciding to kill pivotal plot characters off screen is inexcusable.

There’s always lost ark and throne and liberty…

>>717699097
Hmm yes very good; however.

>>717696521
>Like 6 hours of story developed for four months is exceptionally good for game dev
nigger, this is an mmo. 90% of the story length is padded by go here, collect 3 eggs go there exhaust this dialog box, repeat. it is such a low quality experience compared to normal games

>>717699310
>wasting voiced dialogue and characterization on literal who npcs we'll never see again
Isn't that good?

>>717690109
lmao what a fucking sperg

>>717699310
We're probably seeing Sphene in 7.4 and 7.5 again, and at least now we have a better tural leader to turn to instead of having to revisit Wuk Lamat

>>717699190
Yes. Did you forget all the articles about people getting laid off after the microsoft deal went through?

>>717699405
>[Important] Penis
I shed a tear.

>>717690058 (OP)
At least she's happy

>>717699097
>>717699151
>fags so jealous they do this
man
hows it feel knowing i have what you will never have no matter how long you play and paypig for yoshida, and I'm throwing it away. Permanent discount, legacy tat and chocobo, legacy goober etc

>>717690109
>I'd rather let FFXIV die than have the content be for normal people
Well he got his wish kek

>>717699510
So Blizzard no longer has tranny developers putting tranny shit in the game?

>>717698760
defending SE from any and all criticism every second of every day is the life I chose and I have no regrets, especially when I see how my hard work is paying off. do you really think that stock value would be going up without me crushing all SE negativity on 4chan?

what's so bad about wuk lamat

>>717699606
awfully written. rewrites form consultation company. just shitty story.

>>717690058 (OP)
I made this happen by flooding threads with the same images for month.

>>717695643
this is so sad

>estinien, urianger, thancred, krile just off screen doing fuck all in 7.3

loooooool what the fuck man.

>>717699606
just kinda bland, not really interesting but is in the MSQ so god damn much she becomes actually annoying and you feel like Homer Simpson was in the room telling the writers whenever Wuk isn't on screen the other characters should ask wheres Wuk Lamat. which literally fucking happens btw.

>>717697821
You realize you can't read, right?

>>717699591
no, it does. I'm saying they took steps to try and improve the quality of the game.
On the other hand, I don't expect SE to do anything. Actually, they have done something. They circled the wagons to protect the shitters that are killing their golden goose. They said they'll sue anyone that "attacks" their devs, and every round of interviews yoshida does since DT released has been an apology tour where he tries to justify the state of the game.

>>717699849
KEEEEK

>>717699541
is that a dude

>>717699834
>krile
>offscreen
stop skipping cutscenes.

>>717699606
Writer's Mary Sue OC that takes over the plot and character direction and the writing is half glazing her and half everything else. If she was attractive and likeable, it wouldn't be so bad, but she's ugly and genuinely retarded. A bad attempt at a Naruto-esque character that comes off as someone trying to write a shonen protagonist without ever actually seen a shonen anime. You can see here that she has a disproportionate amount of lines compared to characters that have been in the game for a decade.

>>717695026
>Dawntrail has had some of the best designed fights in a long while, whether it's dungeons, trials or raids.
Pure delusion. It was the same hallway dungeon with 2 pulls in between bosses slop that it has been since Stormblood.

>>717699874
>no, it does
Then it didn't get better.

I don't think they do any of this.

>>717699541
I fucking hate trannies and western white women so much, it's (unreal)

>>717698694
SE really took the success of this game for granted. They were asleep at the wheel for so long they drove off a cliff.

>>717699923
yes, kate hired a troon to play the most voiced role in the expac because he was her nepobuddy and dangerhair ally. a pasty white man pretending to be a woman who then pretends to be a furry woman pretending to be a latina

>>717699937
she didnt do anything.

>>717699874
>I don't expect SE to do anything.
they literally added in the ability to make 24man premades to make it easier to get Forked Tower runs going on patch later, they're actively doing things to improve the game they just only have so much man power to do things

>>717699380
>Having an obviously sub-par writer deciding to kill pivotal plot characters off screen is inexcusable
I checked out of the story when the exact opposite thing happened during shb and after all the setup and emotional impact to sacrifice g’raha tia, they said haha just kidding, not only is he fine but now he’s a permanent addition to your team. arent you happy? we instantly turned him from an interesting and mysterious character into an annoying faggot tag along. now you get to watch him eat all the tacos he wants. do you rike it???

>>717699606
to make it short: She got the most voiced lines of every Character that exists since ARR and she was present in almost every Quest since 7.0

>>717690109
@grok is this true

>>717695129
>that'd be like coming to Africa and complaining that there's niggers everywhere.
>that'd be like going to the garden of eden and complaining there's weeds everywhere

Right
And somebody should clean those weeds up and put that garden to use

>>717699992
>lore checks

MY FUCKING ASS THEY DO THAT.

Endless 7.0 "discussion" that plays out the same way every time? Hyperfixating on Sena Bryer's cock? Why... it's almost like a time loop... One that took place in Elpis... perchance...

>>717700049
again stop skipping cutscenes

>MSQ is the worst it's ever been, ever.
>FUCKING MSQ ANDIES!
We told you raid fags for years this game could lose it's entire raider population and it wouldn't bat an eyelid but you fuck around with the story and the game is in trouble
>MSQ DOESN'T MATTER
The Financial report says otherwise.

I think the worst part about it all is that there's no chance for Koji Fox and Ishikawa to come back, because they're moving onto new projects. We're going to be stuck with Kate and Hiroi pozzing up FFXIV until it fucking goes into maintenance mode all while Yoshitpiss throws up his hands in the air as he gets demoted again

>>717700031
They thought they could peel talent off from the xiv team to put them on other projects. Except those other project failed and now xiv is in the hands of incompetents, not to mention people like kate weaseled their way onto the team to push their bullshit, as they so often do.

>>717699962
Nah, he's right.

Play dofus or ragnarok Online

>>717699541
wonder what Sena is gonna do now that the FFXIV gig is over.

>>717696142
>11 thousand hours is long enough to become a master at several skills
Not gonna lie, I genuinely felt a little weak reading this whole post. Maybe I should stick to singleplayer games or even touch grass

>>717700061
The story was never as great as people claim.
But if the people who like the game for your story tell you they don't like a character, you shouldn't double down and give them the most lines out of any character in any expansion.
You should get fired and they should hire a different writer.

>>717699948
kek

>>717700109
>phaiinon_HStar
Isn't Phainon a Honkai Star Rail character? I assume so given the HStar part.
If so, does a Honkai Star Rail fag really wish to talk about trans & gay activists?

>>717696271
why?:

>>717700270
if you don't have precognition that a bunch of ragetubers and 4chanoids won't like your character you shouldn't write it in the first place???

>>717700192
It's a retarded decision by YoshiP and yes it is YoshiP who made that decision because both Ishikawa and Koji still work for Creative Studio 3 and YoshiP is head of not only FF14 as Producer and Director but he is studio head of CS3 and the decision to move them off the project is his to make.

>>717700340
dynamis has always been dead people say it is hard to get queues so they all go to other data centers

it's honestly impressive how every modern MMO is imploding, no wonder Riot quietly canceled theirs

>>717700056
I'm not paying these retards $15 a month so they can put out half assed content every six month that needs to be fixed a couple months later because no one on the retarded team had enough braincells to just take what they had done previously and improve on it.
This reminds me of an even worse warframe situation where the devs put out half baked content and then the playerbase has to tell them what to fix to make it playable.

>>717699992
why de fuck do every single japanese person use the same stock drawings

>>717699606
The base plot of the expansion is the player character following her around helping her achieve her goals. This isn't necessarily a bad thing by itself and has been done before in XIV but the particulars of the narrative get to be fucking ridiculous
She's the princess of the nation who doesn't know the first thing about the various areas she inhabits, she goes from getting kidnapped by random bandits to being able to fight her foster father (who united the entire continent with his sheer strength of arms) with no actual in-story reason for her power-up, and she even crashes the final boss fight in a cutscene so embarrassing they actually re-recorded it and patched it.

>>717700270
I agree but I also saw the writing on the wall and I guess you didn’t. That makes you the faggot.

>>717700451
its their clipart and its cute

>>717700315
star rail was their top money maker until they got their own chinese hiroi lmao.

>>717700451
globohomo(yes it's what it's called) but japan

>>717700454
But i thought shadowbringers proved that they had a competent writing team. What went wrong?

>>717700504
Didn't they have the sense to fire that person though?

>>717700509
nta but the art doesn't disgust me on a deep level so it can't be globohomo.

>>717700454
>to being able to fight her foster father (who united the entire continent with his sheer strength of arms) with no actual in-story reason for her power-up
what?
she fought bakool ja ja
the only time she fights gulool ja ja was his shade and it was in a group

>>717700360
>Patch 6.5 drops
>Hmm I find this new character very annoying and unfunny
Meanwhile
>We should make JarJar Binks have the most lines in the game

>>717700478
I saw the writing on the wall when they switched the poison with the sultana and then again when they throw mega nukes into a hole for the ascians to have it next patch.
Again it's full of plotholes but people like it and tell you what they like. Stop letting peoples egos ruin your game.

>>717700360
you shouldn’t write poochie unironically because no one will like it. faggots on 4chan are not the reason the game is dying

>>717700509
This man lacks whimsy, point and laugh at him.
>>717700451
https://www.irasutoya.com/ Royalty-free and they're cute, that's about it.

>>717700618
Sorry but if you think they didn't already have a bunch of the Dawntrail story locked in by the time 6.55 rolled around, then.... grim.

>>717700618
>and then again when they throw mega nukes into a hole for the ascians to have it next patch.
The mega nukes in a hole filled with a 24/7 ice calamity that no living thing could ever get to
>spooky undead plot ghosts pick them up later
FUCKING MAEHIRO

>>717700594
They cannibalized that writing team to work on other projects like XVI and in case of Matsuno who wrote the Bozja storyline in Shadowbringers, shitcanned them.

>tfw want to love the game more than anything and wish it was good
>It's been shit since 6.x
Fug.

>>717700192
Yoshi P got demoted? Who replaced him as director of the game? Is he good?

>>717700618
>throw mega nukes into a hole for the ascians to have it next patch
The only thing wrong with that is they didn't get across that the area under the bridge is like a toilet that's always flushing, and the water is aether that will kill you. They didn't just throw the eyes down a hole.

>>717700692
""""""Royalty-free""""""

>>717700749
>over three years of shit
It's no wonder the game is dying.

How long until folder dump.

>>717700598
hes a core guy.

>>717696634
I don't understand this image. 4chan posters aren't really evil and that guy posted this on 4chan himself.

>>717700119
They do have lore checks. Guess who does lore consultation.

>>717700695
They could still rework some of the story and swap characters like they did with killing off Papylamo instead of Y'shtola. Instead they gave the character the most lines in any expansion.
She has the 3rd most lines compared to characters that have existed since 2.0

>>717700782
>※集英社様の許可を得て掲載しているイラストです。作品のイメージを傷つけないよう注意してご利用ください。
Yeah, it's royalty-free.

>>717700446
>"THEY DONT DO ANYTHING"
>"they did fix a thing a patch later"
>"WELL I'M NOT PAYING MONEY FOR IT!"
well be a little bitch then

>>717700119
>>717700847

>>717700786
I spent Endwalker post patches coping hard that Dawntrail was going to be a return to form and that 6.x was just a blip.
Then I spent 7.0 coping hard that the story is shit because they had things to set up but even then I couldn't make myself play it over 2-3 days like I normally would a new expansion launch, it took me a month to get through 7.0.
The experience soured me so much that I unsubbed and haven't played it since but watched it on stream every so often in the hope the game would improve.
It has not.

>>717700758
No, but his seat is getting hot since he's the only thing keeping the company afloat. He was on the SE board of directors and got kicked off after FF16 flopped.

>>717700778
>Magic enemies that you know can just be wherever they want have it next patch
You literally saw Ascians just appearing in front of you when they felt like it on top of possessing people and making them teleport and shit. You know what they're capable of by that point.
It's a huge plothole.

>>717700934
They didn't do anything. They had to be told what to do because they're too incompetent to do it themselves.

>>717700965
>kathryn
I can smell the landwhale rainbow hair

>>717696848
I don't think that's the point the screencap is making though, it's just referring to the general psychology and mentality of an evolutionary dead end, which doesn't necessarily describe all of 4chan but you'd be kidding yourself if you said that misanthropic mindset doesn't fit a lot of 4chan's populace.

>>717700996
*Restructured after Rebirth flopped

>>717700996
>FF16 flopped
I thought that game made back it's money, it flopped? What a shame, it was a good game

>>717701036
>They didn't do anything.
they literally did bitch

>>717690058 (OP)
Release the game in Spanish! WOW did it and even in Latin American Spanish and Spanish Castilian.
You have a whole continent that would love to play the game.

>>717701025
>You literally saw Ascians just appearing in front of you
What part of "a toilet that's always flushing, and the water is aether that will kill you" did you not understand? Asscians can teleport but they're not made of intangible magic, nigga. They teleport down there and they get flushed.
>well how did the WoD get the eyes then?
I don't know, that shit was years ago. Probably something to do with them not having actual bodies.

>>717701153
Hues need to fuck off, this is a white mans game.

>>717701138
it didn't flop, it made back its money and more, SE just has retardly high expectations and profits were still down overall because of the failure of forspoken

>>717700965
Grim

>>717691997
I'm replaying SB on an alt right now and don't you dare compare Lyse to Woke Lmao. Lyse is a million times better and, at the very least, is always nice to look at.

>>717700965
i wonder if Kathryn Cwynar isnt trying everything so that Sena can still voice Wuk lamat and Wuk Lamat stays relevant

>>717701152
They didn't do shit. They put out half assed content and the playerbase had to tell them how to fix it.

>>717701216
Correct. Rebirth flopped bigly however

>>717701025
So, what, do nothing? That's not an option either because they'll just graft into your body or clothes like they did Estinien. It's not a plothole that they did the smartest thing in the immediate short-term for objects that had no true solution. Can't destroy them, they'll explode and wipe out everything in the immediate vicinity because dragon eyes are spicy pillows. Can't hang onto them, they'll possess you. So what are you supposed to do that's not a plothole?

I want to resub but all my friend quit and trying to make new friends without having mare installed is literally impossible. Everyone is so self-absorbed nowadays, and impatient, unable to wait to see something grow and develop. No longer the days of slowly getting to know someone through trickle conversations throughout the seasons. Now it is to wear your entire personality and gimmick on a sleeve. That "personality" is now mare and if you don't have it you're being soft-locked.

>>717700618
>>717700702
>estinien pops them later no big deal later

lmao such a stupid dogshit plot because maehiros a faggot.

>>717690683
Dei gives money but has to put in woke nonsense. Otherwise they will pull funding and they have a right to do so. Very Yiddish behavior.

>>717701138
>it was a good game

Every single quest was run to waypoint, fight a wave of enemies, large enemy spawns (1 out of about 10 different types), another wave of enemies

It was complete slop outside of the eikon fights which were basically glorified QTE cutscenes.

>>717701153
the idea of having to translate all of ARR to DT into spanish terrifies even me, not to mention getting voice actors to voice everything

>>717690058 (OP)
Just make a new mmo?

>>717693816
crazy that you guys don't remember Outriders

>>717701216
That makes more sense, I wish anons would stop using flop to describe everything

>>717691084
Next game needs to be granblue relink combat fuck tab targeting

Come home white man

>>717701362
/v/ only knows goty or flop

>>717699606
She's not a very compelling character, she's ugly, she is voiced by a troon, and they never stop forcing her onto you for even a moment in an MSQ that lasts for around 40 hours.

>>717697052
>They literally couldn't do otherwise most likely, they wrote from 7.0 to 7.3 in one block beforehand
its just fucking text
rewrite it
now they have dead game forever instead

>>717698341
>this is what gamergate was about
It was about ethics in game journalism

WoW is about to kick FFXIV square in the balls with their housing update.
FFXIV has had literally a decade to solve their housing problems and their solutions have been: Lottery System (sucks), and Nothing (sucks).
Story was the other thing FFZIV used to excel at and DT was so terrible I literally didnt finish. My options were Speak to Wuk Lamat Again or Unsubscribe...so I unsubscribed. Boring, often nonsensical plot, endless 20 minute long UNSKIPPABLE cutscenes reiterating what had already been said, Wuk Lamat ad nauseum (read: immediately). Just a huge bomb.

Honestly, those internal numbers must be having them freaked out, no wonder they're trying to court the E33 devs so hard.

>>717695163
some people don't leave their character logged in idling in the background you fucking fat ass faggot retard tranny

>>717701431
>now they have dead game forever instead
2 more weeks for real this time

>>717690683
>>717691383
>>717698341
>>717701298
Activist funding in a company refers to investments made by activist investors—individuals or groups (like hedge funds or private equity firms) who buy a significant stake in a company to influence its management, strategy, or operations. These investors typically push for changes they believe will increase the company's value, such as restructuring, cost-cutting, leadership changes, or asset sales. Unlike passive investors, activist investors actively engage with the company, often through board representation or public campaigns, to drive their agenda

>>717701412
Cool world, Artifact Armors don't really fit in the artstyle, miserable to actually play

>>717701461
>all that money and the best they have is a cardboard cut out
lmao

>doing the dumb regulartor quests in 7.3
>next quest is wuk lamat with icon over her head
>no speak to wuk lamat prompt

THEY SEE THE MEMES AND COMPLAINTS LMAO.

>>717700934
>sell you a car
>it's a broken down piece of shit that doesn't drive
>"I-I'll fix it later I swear just give me more money first"
>'WELL CMON ANON HE SAID HE'S FIX IT LATER'
kys

>>717701412
Gimme the XI pill, all I know about it is the memes about Absolute Virtue and Pandemonium Warden as well as Cloud of Darkness being the final boss of the story I hear? Plus that one crossover gal who gave some nice armor.

>>717701279
>mare
the fuck is this, some crystal goon shit? try playing on a less faggot datacenter

>>717701579
an mmo isn't a car dumbass, the important part is they did add the feature really fast

>>717700692
Kek they have some for gachafags

>>717701673
retard

>>717701437
I sound like that

>>717701412
Can I go through all the story solo? Side content?

>>717701583
don't bother. the magic was playing with other people and that's gone
>have 1000 days of game time from 2002-2011, came back to finish RoV

>>717701286
They had been completely spent of aether in the summoning of Shinryu. There was nothing to explode anymore. If they were popped on the bridge then everyone would have died.

>>717701279
first off you can stop and try befriend erpers or worse fucking xivg anons and instead go and try make friends through actual content, check out the discords of different type of content and join in there or just talk with people it's easy to make new friends.

>>717701412
I'd rather wait for blue protocol: chink edition

>let in diversity consulting company
>it destroys your game overnight

Let this be a lesson to all of them. Should have given us the actual colonial experience we deserved. Finding an actual city of gold, a bunch of "human" aztecs or whatever, and going through their culture and politics. Would have been kino. But instead, they gave us the safest Disney land expansion ever with NPCs I give little care about.

>>717691383
>company admits it has investors

>>717701583
There's a reason why people post more about FFXI than actually playing it.

>>717701412
I did.

>>717701727
You can do most of the story. You can reach the real finale, but then they recently added a post-game storyline that's much harder and requires you to grind your ass off and make friends. All the side content is accessible.

>>717701647
>the important part is they did add the feature really fast
xiv's update cadence is really fucking slow, bruddah.

>>717701754
>niddhogg spending all his power to fight and dying
>theyre totally filled with aether bro.
>OH SHINRYUU TOTALLY SPENT ALL THE AETHER THIS IS DIFFERENT

holy fucking coparino.

>>717701443
People will attack you for this but you're not wrong. A lot of people play FFXIV just for the housing aspect and now that WoW is adding housing and a better one at that I could see a good portion of people playing WoW for a bit just to dabble in the housing. We already saw how many people let their houses demolish - 15k!

can i find a cute animefag to have sex in FF14?

>>717695880
fujos come in all shapes and sizes. but they're all crazy.

>>717695715
stop posting in this thread, Squall.

>>717701889
14 housing is complete dogshit

>>717701854
it really isn't, get a job.

>>717701884
dragon eyes are batteries, not power sources

>>717701798
>JUST KIDDING WE DONT SPEAK BROKEN EORZEAN BECAUSE IT WAS ALL ONE BIG JOKE ON YOUR PEOPLE AND YOUR MAGIC TRANSLATION POWERS NOT BECAUSE THE LOCALIZER IS A HACK AND LAZY first 4 mins in the game.

Holy shit you just reminded me of that again. im mad.

>>717701884
>niddhogg spending all his power to fight and dying
That's not what happened and that's not how dragons work. A dragon's life is in its eyes, so when Estinien killed Nidhogg's flesh, he wasn't actually dead. That's why Nidhogg could possess his body through his eyes.
You don't burn Nidhogg's lifeforce out in your fight with him. Instead, you rip the eyes off Estinien. They're still brimming with aether, which is why they were able to be used to summon Shinryu in the first place.
You're simply retarded.

>>717701567
That is really embarrassing isn't it? You go to other game studios and they have full 3D scale models of their most marketable characters but SE being the Ubisoft of Japan couldn't even be bothered to do more than print off some paper of Cloud and stick it behind some plastic glass/ resin.

>>717701461
It's funny listening to YoshiP try not to be sour grapes and failing when they directly proved him wrong. He's 100% going to be eating crow if SE hires the E33 team to make FF17 or something.

>>717701889
I feel like WoW's housing artstyle won't attract the same people that XIV's does

>>717701916
>cute
probably not but there are plenty of fags playing 14. actually i'm not sure i ever encountered another straight person when i played

>>717701993
I don't recall Yoshida saying anything about RPGs or E33.

>>717690058 (OP)
Hmm. I know!
Maybe they should give FFXIV even LESS budget AND focus more on wokeness? Yes nobody liked Wuk Lamat but those are the chuds who are supposed to be ignored.
The game should have more trans voice actors and even trans characters. All voice actors should also be American because it's the America expansion. Toss in another scene of Ghraha Tia deepthroating an icecream cone and I can guarantee FFXIV will have the highest numbers ever.

>>717701993
>hiring the french to make the next game in their flagship series
they'd rather die than doing that, they might get the E33 team to make maybe a spinoff, but most likely something original if they do hire them

>>717693816
The Quiet Man, the biggest pile of shit since the founding of the video game industry as a whole

>>717702056
YoshiP was directly asked about E33

>>717702079
I mean, it's Final Fantasy, those games can literally be about anything.

>>717702065
based burn-everything-to-the-ground anon

>>717702148
Watch it, when you prove homestuck wrong he goes nuclear.

>>717702148
I don't hang on his every word so I wouldn't know.

>>717702065
>they should give FFXIV even LESS budget AND focus more on wokeness?
you mean like blizzard did with WoW?

>>717701993
>He's 100% going to be eating crow if SE hires the E33 team to make FF17 or something.
Now we have a thread for it. >>717702225

fire kate and hiroi and try again.

>>717702148
Yoship is so fucking obnoxious.
>Hey, you said before that turn-based RPGs are no longer in vogue, but E33 was a success, do you think FF17 will do that?
>ERM WELL ACKSHUALLY y-you're just referring to the battle system, m-my definition of turn-based is when it's in the game design and gameplay feel! I am totally not mad about FF17 being handed to someone else!

>>717702254
Then why did you try to act like a smug faggot about what he has or hasn't said?

>Anons ITT are STILL coping
>STILL trying to pin all the Negativity right now on s single boogieman
How? HOW? Even 7.3 was terrible, they had to drudge up a dead villain as a break-in-case-of-emergency button (apparently the writers can't cone up with a new villain group that's remotely as compelling as the Ass Men). Like holt fuck, give up you pathetic white knights, it's over. Maybe if you stopped coping things could actually get better, but you just won't. Even reddit, the mainsub, is dooming right now.

>>717702458
You are retarded. SE wanted action games not Yoshida. The man prefers Tactics for fuck's sake.

>ff14 has over 700 cash shop exclusive items
>still cant make money
lmao

>>717702458
Yoship never should have been habdling XVI to begin with. He has a game already, a game that's been neglected for years. Unfuck XIV then worry about other things.

>>717702148
They put yoshi pee back into the mmo mines

8.0 HYPE

>>717702364
>>717702547
>>717702560
google doccy

Don't care. Got me my Big Black Male Roegadyn cocks. Game still good. Simple as.

>>717701430
This scene in particular convinced me that the devs are completely tone deaf and things will never improve.
>Erenville going through genuine emotional turmoil as he tries to bond with the chatGPT version of his mother while simultaneously knowing he has to delete her
>Wuk Lmao inserts herself into the scene while those two are having a moment while WoL watches and opens with this fucking line
How does this happen? Genuinely and honestly I want to know what the fuck they were thinking. It wasn't a joke and it wasn't played off as a joke. They seriously thought this was the moment to have Wuk Lmao reinserted into the scene. This shit was storyboarded, written, and inserted into the game, all under the watch of leadership.
How?

>>717702547
damn dude you didn't have to murder him like that

At this point, I'm convinced the posters here still defending the game are paid Square Enix shills.

>>717700965
>cwynar
Fake name alert
Probably an actual CIA plant

>>717700454
>and she even crashes the final boss fight in a cutscene so embarrassing they actually re-recorded it and patched it.
Is this real? No fucking way they did it lmao

>>717702678
Kate was forcing it

>>717702723
it's polish

>>717702786
>SPEEEEEEEEN
that's where that meme comes from

>>717702678
>Wuk spends 40 hours blabbering about how much she loves learning about cultures
>get to Krile's parents and learn about Krile's culture
>suddenly Wuk starts complaining about how bored she is and how she wants to move on

>>717702634
When will you finally post BBC roegadyn cocks?

>>717690058 (OP)
Xiv general Troon thread

>>717702694
How did that feel up you? I enjoyed cooming inside your bum

>>717702702
its yoship himself

>>717702678
>i know we have a time limit but i want to know and understand these people
>ah okay i understand the game needs me to explore and shit whatever sure kinda dumb though
>as soon as we get to kriles shit
>IM BORED HERE LETS GO

holy fucking shit what a rewritten mess of an msq.

>>717702560
Stop posting Ryne again you faggot.

>>717702830
I know, I mean the part where they recorded it again and patched it in.

>>717702832
>>717702907
im glad im not the only one that noticed that.

>>717702832
>preachy sjw game that implies the audience is toxic
>game actually demonstrates the main character of the story is a toxic mega villain by accident
it was funny when dustborn did this too

>>717702952
they didn't actually record anything again they used an alt take

>>717702907
This happens if a troon like Kate and a bad writer like Hiori can do everything like they want

>>717702881
samir listen to me. samir you are breaking the thread

Come on dump the folders already I know you wanna.

>>717702832
How did she transform herself into a progressive icon into a trad wife sucking off every alt-right influencer?

>>717702702
Sphene x Ala Mhigans

>>717702560
Sex with Ryne

>>717703102
He's gotta have the same conversations about 7.0 with himself for the 500th time and feign surprise at the same old bullshit for the 500th time.

>>717702678
wuk lamat being socially retarded has been a meme for awhile, maybe the devs are poking fun at that?

>>717702678
it's clearly meant to be a joke to break the tension and bring some levity, but the issue is Wuk has been in the game for so god damn much this just comes off as annoying.

>>717703159
I have no idea who that bitch is, I just got the reaction image on /tv/.

>>717703071
Check your bootyhole

>>717703356
Someone just has to push his buttons a bit more so he drops the mask.

>>717703356
I'm him.

>>717703420
the king

>>717703420
looking at it closer it becomes clear he is slamming his dick into her metal staff and not her

I want to go back

>>717703578
14fags really are the unfunniest people around

>>717703472
Which Dawntrail race is this?

>>717701412
Already did the main storylines, no real interest in playing a stagnant grindy out the ass MMO.

>>717703674
duskwight

>everyone always bragging about how good the main story is in FFXIV
>main story is something most players got excited about
>all presented with talented voice actors from the first expansion onward
>even won awards
>decide to introduce Wuk Lamat in the new expansion
>friendship through tacos
>hire cheap American VAs
>hire American VAs from X (formerly known as Twitter)
>have Wuk Lamat shoved into every scene, every dialogue, everywhere
>have her cuck you out of being the main character completely obliterating whatever power fantasy was left
>and just for laughs give Wuk Lamat, who has the most dialogue out of anyone ever, the worst voice actor too
>SpeEn ListEn to mE

What in the FUCK were they unironically THINKING?

>>717701709
Gomennasai...

>>717703674
Keeper of the Moon

>>717703467
He's already dazed and confused enough he started bitching about Dawntrail MSQ in a thread he ostensibly started to bitch about Square Enix's financials

>>717699754
Here's your award!

>>717703814
All of it is literally the fault of the faggot all the fujos cream over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyJ7fxN5YQ0

He was right all along

>>717704059
After all the pranks Azem subjected him to, it was Emet who yanked the final chain.

>>717695880
>>717701938
Do you retards think that fujo is Japanese for female nerd? Fucking monkeys.

>>717704059
So in the end, all the in-game cities will end up empty just like his was.

>>717693550
You are wrong and retarded.

>>717704220
Western tards ruined the term already

>>717692216
There is some schizo who is obsessed with that gacha for some reason. I think he believes that he is making some big society changing statement by spamming screenshots of twinks.