Thread 717702368

Post your controversial gaming opinions here.

new games... good

Fallout 1 and 2 are way worse than the modern games. Sure the writing is good, but the games are ass to play.
In general no combat should just be 'percent chance to hit' that's a terrible mechanic

>>717702368 (OP)
Gta 5 is good

We need more cute black girls in vidya.
We need more cute girls in general tho.

Short games are good

Ico is trash. Dark Souls 2 is the best Dark Souls.

>>717702534
>cute black
oxymoron

>the horizon games are great
>Mario 64 sucks although the soundtrack is fantastic
>oot and mm are so much better than every other zelda game, they might as well be from a different franchise
>dmc3 is the only worthwhile game in the series
>the only re games worth playing are 4, the remake of 2, the remake of 4, and 7
>gta is awful and red dead redemption 2 is a movie game. Rockstar is the most overrated developer ever
>fear 2>1
>dark souls and its spinoffs are bad games people pretend to enjoy because it's a male bonding thing. It's the equivalent of watching NBA or NFL for nerds.
>halo infinite is fun albeit nowhere near any of the bungie games.
>Kojima is a bad writer and a worse game designer
>Mario world>3
>yoshi's island sucks except for the graphics
>cs and Dota are anti fun and helped ruin valve
>fighting games, mobas and mmos are second jobs you have to pay for

I find RE6 a average/good game
Chris campaign is meh

It's mechanics would be very suitable for a Dino Crisis remake

>>717702641
okay fag

>>717703006
Kill yourself

mobile games are what the masses want now. i don't like it, and (You) probably don't either, but that's the way it is now.

FPS games are not good.
All of them.

>>717702804
>the horizon games are great
>Mario 64 sucks although the soundtrack is fantastic
>fear 2>1
You are genuinely insane
Everything else you said besides those three is correct though

>>717703660
what even is a mobile game anymore? fortnite is on mobile/pc/console and its unreal engine 5

>>717702368 (OP)
If there isn't a capable developer who's interested in an IP, the IP should stay dead

>>717702525
>but the games are ass to play.

>>717703749
This but MOBAs and MMORPGs

>>717702534
i agree. give me more of that forspoken girl but in an actual good game

FF8 Is the best game ever made

Triggers are dogshit for the vast majority of games. Controllers were better when L2/LT were just buttons.

>>717702368 (OP)
Dragon's Dogma has never been good.
The 3D fallouts are unplayably boring. All of them.
Skyrim with mods is the best adventure RPG yet.

>>717703006
>perferraly
holy fuck, I don't think I've seen a worse misspelling in my entire life

Rockstar, Bungie, and Team Ninja have never made a good game and never will.

>>717703749
I don't understand why "boomer shooters" are so idolized.

All of the Metroid games are complete shit except for Zero Mission which is 1/4th shit.

>>717702368 (OP)
Vidya is a fun time waster but I wish I had more socially impressive hobbies like playing the guitar

>>717702368 (OP)
I play games to determine their quality. If a game doesn’t look like something I’ll enjoy I don’t play it but I don’t talk shit about it either. I also like discussing games with people even if our opinions differ (i.e I like it but they don’t or vice versa)

>>717704543
Then start playing guitar? What's the issue here? You can do both.

>>717703006

Who is this?

>>717702368 (OP)
The only games worth playing are the small percentage of games that are arcade compatible.

Rhythm, shmup, beatemup,
*gap*
Fighting, racing sim, puzzle,

*big gap*

2D arcade platformer, light gun shooter, sports.

*massive uncrossable chasm*

Everything else (everything not listed above is a walking sim or movie game)

Multiplayer takes less skill because it is graded on a curve. You are compared to the retards around you instead of the edge of human capability.

>>717704543
Playing the guitar isn't even that impressive unless you're in an actual band or running some big youtube music channel.

Sexy female characters is all that matters in vidya, and games like The First Descendant are the highest form of art

>>717704686
It's too over for me.
I'm basically at death's door (29)

>>717704543
It doesnt matter. Everything is about sex appeal. If you're a sexy rhythm game god you're cooler than the incel guitarist

Video game RPGs are nothing but fidget toys for the mentally handicapped. They have not evolved for three decades because retards think being able to deal damage with a yellow beam of light instead of a red beam of light makes a game replayable.

>>717704864
Muh build variety fags are indeed the worst.

a hat in time was boring as fuck

>>717704864
THANK YOU. I would go one step further and say the RPGfication of every game is why contemporary games are way less fun. The developers are lazy and timid so they make the player go on wikipedia instead of giving us set limitations and designing the game around us dealing with it via our skill

>>717702368 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with characters not being fuckable. You can dislike overall designs, but the characters not being fuckable should not be its only disqualifying point.

MMO's are sort of entirely different than other games, and should be viewed as differently as irl tabletop games are to a standard vidya like Mario
They are more like a social club, that year over year disbands or returns with new members.

>>717704807
Nah, you just want garbage slop that plays like shit.

>>717702368 (OP)
If a certain "type" of game has been made already and you copy it without adding major, fundamental changes to the gameplay you deserve to be hanged publicly.
Souls"like" is not a genre, you're just copying Dark Souls.
Metroidvenia is not a genre, you're just copying Metroid and castlevenia (or Hollow knight if the devs are zoomers or mentally ill).
SciFi fps games aren't a genre, you're just copying either Halo, CoD, or Doom.
All those fast paced, dynamic, 3rd person action games with primarily melee combat that rely on dodging and parrying are all just copying Devil May Cry.
You're not original and no one cares about your "unique spin" on an already established idea. Hotline Miami is the perfect example of what a completely original game should look like.
Come up with your own game you creatively bankrupt faggot.

>>717702368 (OP)
90%+ of games play better on arcade stick. Every game that doesnt use both analog sticks should be played on arcade stick. A little known secret is that the only reason dpads and analog sticks exist is because they are cheaper to produce than arcade levers. A dpad costs a couple of cents in the production phase but a good arcade lever costs more than $10 to the manufacturer. So the majority of gamers are spending hundreds of dollars trying to collect the perfect controllers when the best solution, and one that's cheaper if you have some brains, is to build your own arcade stick using the lever and buttons that you prefer. If you use a standard controller you're basically admitting that you're niggercattle.

>>717705478
>All those fast paced, dynamic, 3rd person action games
Yeah, all of those from 20 years ago? They don't make them anymore because of the RPGfication of gaming causing them to devolve into "soulslikes"

>>717704807
Nope, you're just a porn addict that can't get laid, so you have to resort to looking at pixels on your screen
>>717705580
The only good opinion ITT
>>717705478
Forgot to add that every ImSim just copies Thief, DeusEx, and Dishonored

>>717704838
faggot worldview

Controversial takes don't exist anymore

>>717705580
>90%+ of games play better on arcade stick
Who is disagreeing with this?
>So the majority of gamers are spending hundreds of dollars trying to collect the perfect controllers when the best solution
I think you mean
>A majority of gamers don't give a shit so they spend $20 on a 360 controller.

>>717706280
non-white people should be completely removed from every video game ever made. Same applies for irl, but none of you blue-board cucks are ready for that discussion.

>>717706656
We have controller threads here all the time. Arcade stick is NEVER brought up. It's always retards and shills circlejerking their 8bitdo or gamesir or 360 controllers

>>717705126
>A white supremacist opinion on a site that says nigger every few posts
So brave.

>>717702368 (OP)
"Gatekeeping" is synonymous with censorship, and that's a good thing. Gamers lost 11 years ago because we failed to gatekeep (censor) oikophobic ideologues out of the hobby, and you'll lose again for much the same reason.
"If your principles cause you to lose, your principles are shit, get better principles."

>>717707204
I think you're retarded and don't know how to read.

>>717707159
Cool. Who is explicitly disagreeing that arcade sticks are better than dpads or analog?
Again
>I think you mean a majority of gamers don't give a shit so they spend $20 on a 360 controller.

>>717707209
Tbh, we didn't fail anything
GG was the more popular side and the numbers clearly proved it.
The powers that be just conspired to subvert things behind the scenes.

>>717707356
I simply replied to the wrong post, but yes I'm a retard.

>>717703006
>perferraly

All voice acting is a waste of time.
Boss fights overstay their welcome 90% of the time

>>717707413
>GG was the more popular side
And what did it accomplish?
>The powers that be just conspired to subvert things
Exactly.

>>717707720
>And what did it accomplish?
Nothing
>Exactly
My point is that one couldn't gatekeep because the customers weren't the true gatekeepers

Deltatraveler was more entertaining than Deltarune Ch. 3+4

>>717702368 (OP)
I like remakes

>>717707796
>the customers weren't the true gatekeepers
Ah, so there goes the "free market" most of you chimp out about whenever the concept of "censorship" comes up...

Skyrim is better than Morrowind. Both vanilla and modded versions.
Inventory weight and weapon durability are neat mechanics.
Stealth games should force ghosting at the highest difficulty
Racing games are all shit
Every RPG would better without wasting resources on romance garbage
The only good Zelda game is Twilight Princess
Elden Ring's open-world is no better than the average Ubisoft open-world
Every modern MMO would be a better game if they stopped pretending to be MMOs.
PvP should not be a toggle in MMORPGs
Server wide auction houses are a net negative in MMORPGs
You should lose EXP for dying in MMORPGs again
MMORPGs should not have instancing
MMORPGs should have external services (server transfer, name change etc)
Kill raidfaggotry in MMORPGs
Ass >>>> Tits
JRPGs are an inherently shit genre

>>717707718
Games overstay their welcome 90% of the time.

>>717708090
>MMORPGs should have external services (server transfer, name change etc
should not*

>>717707954
Remakes and remasters can definitely be good and the only people who think otherwise are idiots who don't play video games to begin with anyway.

>>717704103
retarded complaint

>>717702368 (OP)
Pokemon Colosseum is not a good game, I know pokemon fans have godawful standards but even so I just can't wrap my head around someone picking up this game today and thinking its anything better than mediocre at best. It only makes sense if they played it 20 years ago and are just speaking off nostalgia without remembering what a slog it is.

>>717708079
Yes the Free Market doesn't exist
Elites deciding what the push to the stupid populace does.

>>717708283
>download a Rui LoRA right now
Good advice Anon, thanks.

Already posted this in another thread >>717708651
To reiterate
>crouch = toggle
>sprint = held
End of story.

>>717702368 (OP)
UE5, raytracing, and ai niggery like dlss and framegen are good things.
>>717703006
You've never seen a black woman in real life

>>717702368 (OP)
Halo Infinite is the best Halo game (for multiplayer)

There is no good reason, other than button scarcity, to have dodge and run on one shared button in souls games. Let me assign the two functions separately if my controller has enough buttons for it.

>>717702368 (OP)
This dogshit right here is the most overrated game of all time

>>717702465
>>717702524
Both based right off the bat.

>>717708376
Do the elites run indie? Did the elites make Undertale?

>>717702368 (OP)
Kirby peaked at DL3 and Dream Course
the rest is dogshit
specially the RtD rehashes

>>717702368 (OP)
Pokemon Gen 5 is vastly overrated.

>>717702368 (OP)
indies are proof that corpos alone cannot be blamed for soulless games

>>717702641
Counterpoint

>>717702368 (OP)
Retail wow is 100% unsalvageable and classic + is WoW’s only hope.

Blizzard needs to take a page from what Marvel is doing (resetting the MCU with Secret Wars) and do a cinematic that un-does every expansion after classic wow.

>>717709919
You just proved his point...
to anyone that doesn't have an ape fetish anyway

I am the antichrist

>>717710246
silent hill 1 is being remade bro

>>717709919
Looks disgusting

>>717709925
And what makes you think Classic+ wouldn't just end up as retail 2.0. Season of Discovery was a Classic+-lite and that shit turned into retail 1.5 pretty damn quickly and died pretty fast.

Turn-based combat is enjoyable as it is, most people who hate it have a chip on their shoulder about it more than they have an argument.
Choice only holds meaning when you can't say "yes to all". All these games that offer me the freedom to "choose" what content to engage in at any given time by making it all freely available just make the content worse.

>>717710346
>”we are getting rid of addons! (Pwease come back)”
>see? We are making it more like classic wow!
>retail on sale for the 9362567472th time
Anything is better than the current state of retail.

>>717710336
>>717709980
If you're gay, just say so. I don't judge.

>>717710856
>>717709919
What part of that is cute?

>>717709742
Why is the market shaped by games that flop in sales over and over by being products nobody wants to buy? It is because it is not a free market.

>>717711623
And even indie, which is arguably a "free market," has ideologically-subversive nonsense like Undertale and ENA: Dream BBQ. Explain that.

>>717710785
WoW is a poisoned well, and Blizzard is the poison. They simply incapable of making WoW good again or building off of Classic's base in a meaningful way.

I think an MMORPG's story and single player experience should be almost number 1 priority if companies want to make the next big MMORPG. Nobody wants to play a shitty game for 100 hours only to get into the repetitive end game grind, and sandbox MMORPGs feel lazy and always fucking die because community led content always suck.

Make the game good from the first hour, make a compelling story, world, and characters, that is the only thing that will keep casuals playing your game, and maybe when they reach the end they will just stay for the grind. Right now it feels like MMORPGs are for people that just want to waste time doing repetitive tasks or ERPing.

I remember that Ghostcrawler specifically said that if you wanted to play an MMORPG as a single player game that the new Riot games MMORPG was not going to be for you, at that point I already knew the game was going to flop. Thankfully they got rid of the boomer just wanting to make a wow clone with a lol skin and are remaking the project.

>>717712124
Time for the obvious question. Why even bother making the fucking game an MMORPG in the first place then/

>>717704824
Nigger you can start now and be adequate in a year or two with consistent practice
>the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now

>>717712293
Because you want to make a live service RPG? Right now the genre is not working as is. Other games are able to have a good single player experience and some MMO elements like being able to see other players in real time and co-op with them, but as soon as you get to MMORPGs they all suck as a single player game.

new vegas is overrated

>>717702368 (OP)
Korean and Chinese games are nothing but fake games made for twatter and grifter engagement.
Localization is good but weebs and hacks have given it a bad name.
While Bananza is great, Nintendo is losing its edge and is getting to cushy for its own good.

>>717702368 (OP)
Good and bad is irrelevant. The only thing that matters with a game is that you have fun.

>>717708283
Most people enjoy that it leans towards being more difficult, but it also tends to be an extremely slow game and the TM distribution is ass. Plus there aren't a large number of ways to make a team that synergizes super well off one another, outside the basic magnitude/earthquake while you have a mom with levitate or flying, sunny day use, etc.

>>717711480
Straight men just get it. If you don't, that's fine.

metal gear rising would have been better if you played as a futa muscle mommy dismembering people in slomo with giant swings of your monster dong

>>717702804
>the horizon games are great
>gta is awful and red dead redemption 2 is a movie game. Rockstar is the most overrated developer ever
>fear 2>1
>dark souls and its spinoffs are bad games
>Kojima is a bad writer and a worse game designer
>cs and Dota are anti fun and helped ruin valve
garbage takes

>>717702525
Nah 1 and 2 had the best gameplay in the series. Yes I am dead serious.
I've replayed them and played mods solely because of the gameplay.

>>717702569
I loved My Friend Pedro, which literally only lasted me a session, like 2 hours or so. More games should be like that, densely designed arcade-style games.

MMOs that are overwhelmingly about endlessly upgrading loot from instanced, holy-trinity-combat dungeons and raids, in which everyone repeats scripted mechanics as if they're at some sort of dance, need to go away. Players should be building ships to go explore procedurally generated islands and building mansions and taming dragons and shit like that.

>>717702526
it has hints of greatness but I feel that in the end the main story was such a let and a massive detriment to the overall experience.
never played online if thats the part of which you consider good.

>>717703004
its a fun game. if it wasnt called resident evil it would have been another massively successful capcom zombie game (which RE6 already is lol!)

>>717702368 (OP)
Gaming as an adult is fine as long it's multiplayer, and it being competitive is a plus. However, playing single player games is akin to an adult playing with toys by himself and is gay af

>>717702368 (OP)
>playing fps with a controller (flickstick + gyro) is actually comfy
Too bad it's not precise enough for competitive fps

>>717702368 (OP)
Games shouldn't have an exit or quit button. But rather a dedicated suicide button where if you push it your character kills themselves and then the application closes. I think it would be more immersive that way.

A 10/10 game does not equal a perfect game. It's simply one that has gone above and beyond in most of its aspects and deserves the score. There's still going to be bugs, there's still going to be some issues with the gameplay. A ten is when those aspects are so minor that they don't affect the score. When the gameplay, control, sound design, music, graphics, every fucking thing comes together. And even better, it's arguably something you can come back to multiple times, and you still consider it a ten. Not a speed runner amount of times, but something you can still come back to a decade later and still love all over again.

>>717703006
>Preferably the first one
>Holding a game cube controller
If she wants to play the first one we would need a N64 controller.

>>717702368 (OP)
Botw is a fucking awful game and it ruined zelda.
Mario galaxy is a fucking awful game only liked by zoomers who grew up with it
Pokemon peaked with Johto and the Johto remake.
Metroid was never really good outside of Prime 1 and 2.
MGS1 is the weakest Metal Gear game including the MSX ones.
Chris is a much better protagonist than Leon.
RE7 is a fucking awful game that ruined the franchise.
Classic Sonic is dogshit. Classic Mario is infinitely better. Sonic was only good for the two Adventure games.
Last of Us is boring overrated shit.
System Shock 1 is better than 2.
Invisible War isn’t a bad game.
BioShock is a bad game.
Crash and Spyro were never good.

Morrowind = Skyrim > oblivion

Street Fighter 6 fucking sucks and I can't believe so many people are playing that garbage. Drive Impact and Drive Rush make the game dumb as fuck.

>>717708090
>Skyrim is better than Morrowind. Both vanilla and modded versions.
Elder Scrolls is a bad game series so this take doesn't matter
>Inventory weight and weapon durability are neat mechanics.
Agreed but they can still be handled poorly (and are most of the time)
>Stealth games should force ghosting at the highest difficulty
Agreed
>Racing games are all shit
Bad take but most racing games nowadays are shit
>Every RPG would better without wasting resources on romance garbage
Another bad take but understandable since most handle romance poorly
>The only good Zelda game is Twilight Princess
Disagree
>Elden Ring's open-world is no better than the average Ubisoft open-world
Agree
>Every modern MMO would be a better game if they stopped pretending to be MMOs.
Agree
>PvP should not be a toggle in MMORPGs
Agree, make your game with PvP in mind or not, don't ruin your game by being a fence sitter
>Server wide auction houses are a net negative in MMORPGs
50-50, depends on the game and how they handle it
>You should lose EXP for dying in MMORPGs again
Agree
>MMORPGs should not have instancing
Depends on the game and how they handle their multiplayer
MMORPGs should not have external services (server transfer, name change etc)
Disagree on the server transfer but agree with the name change
Kill raidfaggotry in MMORPGs
Hard agree
Ass >>>> Tits
Agree
JRPGs are an inherently shit genre
Disagree but most JRPGs are lackluster

>>717702368 (OP)
Devil May Cry starts at 3. The only reason 1 isn't the worst game in the series is because 2 exists.

>>717713691
People forget review scores are recommendations, not test scores, and some of those who forgot are among the people making the reviews. A 10/10 is not a flawless game, but a game so well-made and enjoyable that it can be recommended to anybody regardless of genre preference and they should have a good time with it (maybe not the best time, but the hitrate of enjoyment is near 100%). Many 9/10s are considered 10s to the people who play them, because they fit perfectly into their tastes, but maybe it doesn't have the universal appeal of a true 10/10. This obviously means that review scores from any given reviewer could skew one point in either direction if you're not perfectly in-tune with them, which is why you need to self-curate a selection of reviewers that align with you instead of taking one person's opinion as gospel or believing that a huge aggregate like Metacritic is worth a damn besides gauging broad sentiment.

>>717714257
TES is great because it circumvents the fact that video game devs can’t write for shit by underpinning the stories with cool metaphysics and unreliable narrators

Video games as a medium need to move away from the mass appeal of movies and more towards emergent narratives like rimworld, kenshi, dwarf fortress and CCDDA.
AI could be an asset to this but it isn't an end all be all. I want totally unique experiences but I want them to still be of quality, games that prioritize intrigue over narrative.

>>717713032
man you can see her scalp, her legs might be sexy and all but not cute.

>ITT
>white bois who think black people are lesser than them but crave their features on flat white women
Kek

Optional romance mechanics make RPGs better overall. It creates more of an opportunity to define your character, flesh out their personality through who they choose/how they interact with a partner, helps the player invest more into the world/story, and endears a player to the companions way quicker. It also allows devs to use that connection in creative ways, like having your partner get abducted by an antagonist, tying endings into who you chose, and even motivating the player to take certain moral decisions because it supports their relationship/what the companion wants.

While it's not a replacement for an outright good story/well written characters, allowing the player to form a connection with a companion adds an immense amount to the overall experience. Lot of people get annoyed by RPGs that have optional romance, yet those are often the ones with the most success and discussion that actually lasts.

we should have had another 2D/sprite focused gen instead of rushing half-baked 3D with the PS1/64.
Videogames never really evolved past the PS2/GC era in general, almost all gameplay styles were explored with this gen, after that things just scaled up with hardware, but the gameplay styles are basically the same.

cp2077 campaign was kino of the highest order and I'm tired of shitting on it

>>717702368 (OP)
I'm actually excited for Ghost of Yotei.

"Wokeness" isn't a problem as people think it is as most "anti-woke" people are just bigoted versions of CinemaSins, stupid, angry and often just comes down to knitpicking. When you see "wokeness" it's because the game itself has failed to captivate you or create interesting characters or gameplay or plot so you resort to knitpicking.

>Black Fatigue
Either you are racist and/or you are sick of POORLY WRITTEN black characters. This is a writing issue not a political issue. The same applies to other poorly written characters who happen to be minorities. Barret Wallace is likable and well written with an awesome character design despite being black. Jill Valentine, Laura Croft, and Samus are all awesome female characters. Sadly a lot of minoirty characters are tokens even if they're the main character and horribly written so you just pay attention to them more than if it was a white man who was horribly written.

>Forced Performative Politics
Writing issue and / or often corporate meddling. A good writer would be able explain politics in an interesting and entertaining way or not make them so obvious (Metal Gear Solid, Deus Ex, etc). The issue isn't that it's "woke" it's that it has shit writing. The problem isn't the politics it's that it has shit writing. And like for all the bitching and complaing about left wing politics, most game devs are liberals, moderates and leftists. A lot of right-wingers focus more on hunting and shit rather than pursuing video game creation and don't go into coding. I personally play indie games where it's people's actual opinions rather than games made by dumb nepo-babies, the out of touch and the corpos.

It's never "go woke go broke" it's almost always been "go broke go woke."

Dreamcast was the last good console. Everything went downhill from there.

>>717714530
Or just be like Shadow of Mordor/War and somehow do both.

Zoomers/Alphas have superior coomer bait in video games. I say this as someone who grew up in Pokemania and convinced my first girlfriend to cosplay as Misty when losing our virginities in middle school. Fortnite's RTL and Meowskulls get priority when I'm on the prowl fiending for some erp.

>>717714423
I remember 6/10 games in magazines felt like a "niche game that only a certain group would like" score. i think that's a fair way of assessing it. A 5/10 would be something so average or basic, and the lower scores from there are the actual bad quality games that tend to have aspects that they fail at.

>>717714702
>you can see her scalp
Braids expose the scalp, retard.

>>717702368 (OP)
Dawntrail is better than heavensward

>>717702368 (OP)
Johto pokemon games are objectively awful

>>717702368 (OP)
arena shooters died because zoomers are retarded, they will spend thousands of hours in aim trainers trying to perfect their DM only to turn around and play utterly shallow games like valorant which solely take their mechanical complexity from raw ability bloat.

RTS games died for the same reason and even the same formula with mobas being the dumbed-down and objectively inferior version.

>>717715096
Its unironically a masterpiece and anyone who disagrees are wrong faggots

>>717715601
Apex Legends is the only modern arena shooter-like rn, and it sucks cause it's a BR. Still fun tho (for me)

>>717715173
>Dreamcast was the last good console. Everything went downhill from there.
To build off of that. The Dreamcast failing told the gaming industry that being experimental and unique was a bad idea, so pump out the same slop over and over.

>>717715096
I'm kinda mad Never Fade Away cockblocked by "muh I wanna be in your house" the pure cancer shitty zoomerass 'music'

I'd be completely okay with 80 or 90 dollar games, even 100 dollar games. For the amount of time I get from games, this is actually dead cheap value per hour compared to many other hobbies. Price increases are necessary to keep the industry sustainable, since game development is becoming more and more expensive as expectations rise for new games and inflation causes salaries to necessarily increase to retain talent. Companies like Ubisoft tried to outsource to low CPI countries like India and it didn't work.

The price of games didn't keep up with inflation because the market was growing quickly enough to make up for it. That growth has since slowed, so something else needs to give now.

People whining about price increases being "anti-consumer" (retarded take) should instead be whining about actual anti-consumer practices like selling added cosmetics and content in full-price games and supporting developers that don't ever do that (Nintendo).

>>717715909
>Apex Legends
only became popular to zoomers after the devs removed almost all of the kino movement tech from the objectively superior Titanfall 2.

Have you ever seen montages/clips from Titanfall 2 compared to Apex? Nothing shows how much they dumbed it down more than that.

also Apex was an industry leader for helping popularize cross platform games with the now industry standard over-the-top controller >aim-assist so I will always have disdain against Apex for that too.

>>717709980
>implying humans aren't just another brand of apes
So what are you fucking? Dogs?

Games that require any amount of investment whether it be time or effort is no longer popular or in demand.

The audience for games these days are now people that have little to no attention span. Everyone else who played video games in the past are now older, they don't have the time to play games anymore or no longer have the capacity to do so. I know for a fact I'm not as sharp with my reaction times as I used to be.

People only want instant gratification and results, people don't want to work towards to completing a game or grinding out a reward.

zoomers killed gaming and the site

Battlefield Hardline was the only good Battlefield game after 2

>>717716604
Y'know I agree with you and really liked TF2, but I'm personally tired of the cope. I played TF2 pretty regularly up til a few years ago to get my "sanic fast gameplay" itch in, and the multiplayer was just dead. I'm saying requeueing hours with the same exact lobby dead. I feel like everybody who invokes TF2 is all talk, otherwise the multiplayer would be alive rn. And perhaps therein lies an objective point to be made about the replayability between COD-style death matches vs time-investment battle royales. I simply just want everything to be populated and alive to play, from quake to TF2.

Yeah. Aim assist is cancer. Slam dunk rollerfags head first onto the concrete.

Apex has a brand new game mode as of this week. It introduces respawns and movement devices everywhere on the map, it's hella fun. Very sanic

>>717715096
it was too short

Trannies ruined the video game industry in the west.

>>717702526
Definitely a step down from GTA IV, but it is still a pretty good game.

>>717702368 (OP)
Bioshock: Infinite is a good game because of what it says about America - not racism specifically, where it's the facile platitudes of a white Jewish dude, but in what it communicates about the... communication of ideals, across generations and a population with ends that are often at odds with each other.

>>717717598
Infinite is just a shitty anti christian sloppa

>>717702368 (OP)
The motif of people arguing for games to be considerd art is that they want to disguise the fact they are consuming entertainment products by dressing it up as some intellectual endeavor.
This is similar to wine connaisseurs just wanting to get drunk and feel smart about it or e-thots claiming they needed the money when they just wanted to show of their bodies to strangers.

>>717702534
Nobody's against that they're against the fugly bitches that get shoved into western garbage.

>>717702368 (OP)
I hate digital and I hate people who support it and I wish more people would appreciate owning something physical

I think umamusume sucks and so does the anime
t. guy who likes anime

>>717717904
This isn't controversial at all.

>>717702368 (OP)
eliminate AAA games, studios and corporations from gaming

>>717712659
>MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE
It's in the name retard. The genre is the most solo and story focused it's ever been. Coincidentally, the genre is in it's worst state right now

>>717718023
digital sales are like 80% because its supposedly more "convenient"

>>717702368 (OP)
I think mobas and mousous are shit.

>>717702368 (OP)
Banjo was never good.

>>717702641
Its rare but they do exist

>>717718249
Musou. And that's not a controversial opinion.

>>717702534
>all black females are 6 foot tall disco queens that refer to the protagonist as "Sugah"

>>717715180
>Or just be like Shadow of Mordor/War
Can't. Nemesis system is copyrighted.

>>717717567
Zoomer culture btw

>>717717773
art doesnt have to be an intellectual endeavor or particularly profound. something being for entertainment doesn't preclude it from being art. there is essentially no criteria for something being art, so it's a stupid debate to begin with.

>>717702368 (OP)
Video games are fun

>>717718326
thats just a jap with a tan

>>717717710
Well, at least I can say I'm on-topic.

>>717717159
you're just fishing

>>717702368 (OP)
I don't understand why Mouthwashing was some god tier game. It's just another depression simulator part interactive novel that inspired a weird ass obsession's with depression and rape which just felt like people projecting there own desires or fetish. It's not a game.

>>717718807
My post isn't about wether or not video games are art. It's about why some "gamers" are so keen on arguing for it being art.
Specifically them wanting to selfishly evangelize the way they spend their time since they cannot admit they just do it for primitive reasons like just wanting to have fun.

>There should be games that require some higher level of knowledge of the medium instead of every game being made for a beginner.

>most if not all RPGs should focus on making the gameplay better than the story.

> platformers and other action games should have more/better stories and lore, or at least themes and ideas it wants to share

>Sonic 2 is the worst out of the trilogy.

>final fantasy 1 is one of the better FF games in the series.

>>717702368 (OP)
FFXVI wasn't actually that bad of a game. If anything, its the closest the FF brand has come to feeling like it belongs to PS1 Square since FF12.

From Software games (Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring) literally don't have a story.

>>717702368 (OP)
gamers care more about videogame porn than their rights of ownership.

JRPG's that use frame based animation windows are mechanically identical to fishing or golfing minigames

>>717702368 (OP)
Rune Factory 5 was good actually

Chrono Cross is better than Chrono
Trigger and is what elevates the latter

There are no bad Zelda games

Trails NPC dialogue is overrated and NPC dialogue from GameArts games like Grandia and Lunar absolutely mog it because they not only have changing dialogue but let your party talk back and respond

>>717707102
That's a pol opinion though, and /v/ is a pol adjacent board.

>>717716006
>Never Fade Away
I know, it was a thing of beauty

>>717707102
>non-white people should be completely removed from every video game ever made.
So no more weeb games?

Based af!

>>717719308
Don’t let Barry see this

>>717702368 (OP)
Vanilla WoW is still the best videogame ever made

I do not care for 2.5D FPS games because they always revolve around bumbling through a series of similar looking environments until you get the 3 key cards.

>>717715108
>I'm actually excited for Ghost of Yotei.
I personaly don't care because Jinn was the best part of GoT and the female protag will never really hit that same samurai male story itch that GoT did.

>>717721205
no, sukhdeep subhumanan, he meant IRL disabled NPCs
koreans and japanese have pale skin
epstein yourself with a back flip

>>717724651
>Muh Honorary Aryans meme
Pale skinned Asians are unironically less white (i.e. Caucasoid) then brown skinned Arabs.

Turn based combat is ass and gay and boring.

>>717702368 (OP)
Fallout 4 is the best in series

>>717702368 (OP)
Collective Shout is right for going after weeb slop pedo “games.”

>>717717582
reasonable take

>>717726425
It's rare to see an ounce of sanity in these threads, so yeah, credit where it's due. Still doesn't change the fact that the average “reasonable take” here gets buried under 50 layers of bait, console war screeching, and people arguing over whether anime girls are too adult or not adult enough.

>>717728431
too true

>>717702368 (OP)
Most of the twisted metal games are borderline unplayable. Even by the standards of the 2000s

>>717702368 (OP)
Arbitrary inputs to increase speed is bad game design

>>717718369
God, I wish

Sekiro was an incredible combat system with a game that failed hard to take advantage of it, and in my eyes was eclipsed entirely by Lies of P
>ME3 is better than ME1 by virtue of having good gameplay
Back 4 Blood unironically a great 4-man premade coop game on release, one of the most fun coop games I've played. Unplayable casual experience though.
>Rollslop and parryslop is fun
Overwatch wasn't mishandled, shields and the poor map design were present and noticed and ruining the game on Day 1 and when Overwatch 'died' it was because those two problems finally caught up with it
>Diablo 4's gameplay on launch was excellent and people complaining about builder-spender missed the forest for the trees in terms of what D4's core problems were (and are)
Mortal Kombat hate is entirely animetroon seethe that "pure" fighting games like GG and SF will never eclipse MK's cultural popularity in the West
>KOTOR 2 isn't just better than KOTOR 1, it embarrasses it (with TSLRCM)

>>717702368 (OP)
Genshin sucks, I have never even installed it.

>>717715108
>When you see "wokeness" it's because the game itself has failed to captivate you or create interesting characters or gameplay or plot
you are so much closer to seeing the issue with wokeness than you think you are, but your worldview prevents you from making that final concession to finally see the fucking problem

>>717702368 (OP)
Uma Musume is not a real game. If you have no control of the actual gameplay, there is no game. May as well play one of those DVD Movie 'games'.

>>717709919
Built for bwc

>>717730743
Man has yearned to fuck horses for longer than there has been written language. Maybe longer than spoken language.

This is just the latest iteration.

>>717702368 (OP)
Arpg and RTS are not game genres. They were only made because of the hardware limitations at that time. Nobody has ever advertised their game as an isometric masterpiece.

>>717702368 (OP)
video games should never have been playable at home. they should have stayed as arcade machines. if you wanted to play a video game, you had to get your ass outside and go somewhere that has one. you had to sacrifice money to play it. but not anymore. today we have multiple generations who grew up being perfectly content staying inside the house all day every day playing video games instead of touching grass, socializing, doing physical activities, etc. it has rotted young people and birthed a horrid new kind of loser, one that grows in percentage with every new generation

>>717702368 (OP)
"mobile graphics" with hand painted warcraft like textures and low poly models are 1000x better than Unreal Engine slop.

>>717702525
>In general no combat should just be 'percent chance to hit' that's a terrible mechanic
This for kotor and I played both of them the day they came out and have played them nearly a hundred times since then. Fuck dice roll games.

most games have a terrible gameplay loop

Collective Shout is just simply helping to save the white race by encouraging white men to stop acting like pansy forever alone incels and actually Have Sex rather than gooning it to fictional porn while allowing themselves to get cucked by black and brown men in the process.

>>717730823
If I wanted to fuck a horse, I'd get a horse. Who the fuck pretends to be fucking genderbent horses only to immediately cuck themselves through the mechanic known is "legacies"?
>I didn't say-
You're the one who brought up sex.

>>717731371
>instead of this playing this mom raping game
>actually rape your mom
T-thanks collective shout.. saving the white race.....

>>717731496
So they really are just banning incest and loli games rather than all porn games?