fuuuuuuck you

>pajeet
>tech illiterate pctroon
>can't take a screenshot
I beg you to never purchase a console because I don't want to share my elite platform with mouthbreathing pcbrownoids

>>717712118 (OP)
just enable it, its not like it does anything bad

>>717712250
why mad pstroon

At least there are no hackers or aimbotters thanks to this

r-right guys?

Have you tried just... like... not cheating? Loooolllll

not turning on secure boot or tpm
still not using windows 11

>>717712341
It makes it so you can't dual boot Linux (aside of exclusively a couple big corpo ones with signed kernels)

>but I don't le care :)

It's a hindrance for Linux adoption in general.

>>717712513
>It makes it so you can't dual boot Linux (aside of exclusively a couple big corpo ones with signed kernels)
wrong

>>717712403
>pcjeet recoils immediately
kek

>>717712513
I'm a Linux user but Linux fags trying to shit on every Windows gimmick that doesn't fully work with Linux is getting ridiculous. We're like 2% of the total PC userbase, why should little Timmy on windows 10 avoid the secure boot shit just because it inconveniences me?

>>717712118 (OP)
the consolidation of power rears its ugly head, that's terror

>>717712610
Because if it becomes the norm for games to require secure boot from here on out, that is a major hindrance to Linux adoption (and thus, digital freedom for the world)

>>717712550
Are you implying that setting up your own keys and signing your own kernels is something anyone just switching to Linux is going to do?

>>717713187
>can't
wrong

>>717712118 (OP)
I really don't get some of you niggers.
Don't you even do one Google search of the requirements of a game before installing it?

>>717713187
Secure boot works fine on all mainstream distros. Why do you retards want the TSA, the Russians, Chinese, etc to have the ability to add a rootkit to your system undetected?

>>717712610
they catered to troons for years now and they’re even less than 2% of users

>>717712118 (OP)
I ended up enabling this and I just feel raped in a way, like I was forced to lower myself to such standards and mess with my bios just to play a beta
Fuck you EA

>>717713394
either a game runs, or it doesn't because your computer isn't strong enough, that's all that's needed
having this shit is invasive and will get even worse if we allow it

>>717713510
EA cummed in all your dirty holes and violated you like a slut, there is no going back

>>717713609
Get yourself a console, retard.

The only time I enabled secure boot, my gpu stop working, my pc gave me a black screen because I don't have an igpu. So I couldn't disable secure boot, had to ask a friend for his ryzen with igpu so I could access the bios and disable secure boot. If you don't have a igpu don't do it. It's retarded anyway, force you to go into your bios and enable a feature that can literally make your gpu stopped being recognized by your motherboard. Even riot, with their kernel level anticheat, lets you play their game without activating secure boot, you can literally play the game with that amd bullshit thats kinda like secure boot.

>>717713735
>get yourself a completely locked and controlled system

>>717713815
That's apparently what you want.

>>717712118 (OP)
the game needs hypervisor access retard

it runs your operating system in a virtual envirionment so it can see everything your computer is doing, even the kernel

yes it opens up the possibility for undectable spying and telemetry, even when the game is not running, but its worth it

>>717713187
>that is a major hindrance to Linux adoption
KEK NO ONE IS ADOPTED LINUX STFU

>>717713884
I'm here to shit on EA.

>>717712118 (OP)
Yeah I saw this and I uninstalled immediately, I'm not doing tech support to try this EA shit.

>>717713931
Then do it for actual reasons, like the lack of server browser.
Not because you can Google search shit.

>>717713735
there's already cheaters on your rootkit game, lmao
https://archive.is/CVXmt

>>717713395
because i have my pc only for gaming and want to see cheater-asses raped
cheaters are scum

>>717713609
I agree, fuck them, if it was at the very least a game that was worth the hassle, but no.

>>717713906
lolmao

>yeah I have social media accounts
>yeah my email account is google, microsoft, proton, or yahoo
>yeah I have a smartphone
>yeah I run windows (it's okay I ran a debloater script)
>yeah my mobo has a management engine chip (so what)
>yeah I play games with kernel anti cheat
>secure boot? fuck that jewish spyware

>successfully filtered all mentally ill autistic retards and poor neets/3rd world subhumans
All games should do this autistic mentally ill subhumans dont deserve games and should all be lobotomized.

it's ok just like, go play a different game :)

>>717712341
then i dont need it on

>>717714334
Has this rhetoric ever convinced anyone? It seems to be used every time they want you to accept some new dystopic technology, or bigger prices, or gacha elements or whatever. I wonder if someone looks at it and goes like "you know what? You're right, I'm gonna fall for it again"

>>717712118 (OP)

That takes all of about 1 minute and 30 seconds to fix in your BIOS

>forced female soldiers
I wouldn’t play this shit regardless

>>717714657
I just find it funny that 30 years ago people got mad about Sony installing a rootkit on people's computer, and now it's 30 years later and now people are pissed at EA for making sure their players CANT get a rootkit on their computer.

>>717714736
Why should I have to go into my BIOS to play a fucking beta?

>>717714657
I'm not here to convince you, just to laugh at your pretense of having principles, as well as your tech illteracy

>>717714819

You don’t have to, go play COD with the other retards

>>717714813
these rage memes are so quaint now, the internet was such a innocent place just 15+ years ago

>>717714886
>my actual flawed argument wasn't an argument at all
>I'm just having fun I swear
oh okay carry on anon

>>717714334
>>yeah I have social media accounts

I don't

>>yeah I have a smartphone

iPhone used solely for texting and calling.

>>yeah I run windows

I don't

>>yeah my mobo has a management engine chip (so what)

Intel ME and AMD PSP don't do anything you can prove it because they make no network connections

>>yeah I play games with kernel anti cheat

I don't

>>717712118 (OP)
I couldn't boot with this and I have no idea why, my windows installatlion is UEFI, my hard drive is GPT, I tried a bunch of troubleshooting but windows would simply not boot with this on and i'd get a black screen that i'd have to power off and on again to go back to bios and turn it off for windows to boot. I'll worry about it in october. Only thing I can think of is my MSI Bios is a factory default 2020 version.

>>717716105
>>>yeah I run windows
>I don't
Great! Then you wouldn't have any interest in Battlefield anyway. ;)

>>717714549
/thread and checkmate EA pajeets

>>717714736
Not if you need to reformat your windows drive

>>717716219
I had to help my nephew with it and he had to update his bios, then enable UEFI (not legacy), turn off CSM, enable platform keys, and then restart it and then he was finally able to enable secure boot

>jump through all these hoops to play the latest murder simulator from EA
lol you people are pathetic

>>717713187
>setting up your own keys and signing your own kernels is something anyone just switching to Linux is going to do?
why are you using Linux or even making an argument for it if you are a tech illiterate?

Why do trannies hate Windows 11 so much?

>>717716949
>jump through all these hoops
Or just set up your PC to be secure from day one lmao

I tried to swap to secure boot and after turning it on my PC wouldnt even post anything to a monitor, I had to take the battery out of my mobo to reset the settings.

this makes makes my 9800x3d run hot. first time I seen it do 70c in a game. most of the time its 50s.

>doesnt even know how to take a screenshot, took a photo instead
lol actual dark black nigger tier

>>717717073
let me guess, some ancient ass graphics card or 7th gen i5

>>717717127
I have a 5800x and 3090 you nigger, this retarded shit just didnt work

>>717717049
>protecting the Windows kernel
>by giving EA access to it

>>717716949
But I like shooting people.

>>717713609
>will get even worse if we allow it
you're crying over something that's been in wide use since the early 10s.

>>717717231
>I've been letting dicks in my ass for 15 years, so you should too
Nah bro, I'm good

>>717712494
trustedinstaller is fine its wuauclt that needs to go

>>717717164
and yet you're somehow so tech illiterate that you can't even enable secure boot
fucking kek
there should be an IQ test to be a PC gamer.

>>717717231
Obviously not or else this wouldn't be a problem for the majority of people.

>>717717164
Then how did secure boot brick your PC?

EA's error message should just say "[Error Code: id10t] Please go buy a console."

What if i want secure shoe instead?

>>717717546
that's what velcro strap shoes are for, so easy to put on even a retard like you can handle it

>>717717546
you can do that with the correct settings in the bootstrapper

>>717717491
>bruh if you don't want to give EA access to your computer just buy a console fr fr
retarded zoomer

>>717717421
>or else this wouldn't be a problem for the majority of people.
It's not a problem for the majority of people though. The open beta just peaked at 521k concurrent players today, and it might even reach +600k tomorrow.

This whole secure boot is damn pointless, there is already hackers/cheaters in the beta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lA9etRbc84
There has never been a solution to cheaters in every fucking game I've played online, I don't understand why EA thinks that this is a solution.

>>717717698
It would be more than double that without this requirement. Bet.

>xe doesn't have Secure Launch
>xe doesn't have Virtualization-based security
>xe doesn't have DMA Protection
>xe doesn't have UEFI Code Read-Only
>xe doesn't have Kernel-mode Hardware-enforced stack protection
>xe doesn't have Mode Based Execution Control
>xe doesn't have Memory Integrity
>xe doesn't have Firmware Protection
>xe doesn't have LSASS protection
>xe doesn't have MVDB enabled
>xe doesn't have randomized memory allocation
>xe doesn't have heap integrity
lmao we need to get these tech illiterate consolebrains off PC, can't even imagine the amount of rootkits and trojans they have

>>717717698
>500k during a free beta
>when they expected 100 million paid players
on release it won't reach 300k, at least maybe they'll finally kill the franchise after this flop

>>717718003
>I don't understand why EA thinks that this is a solution
They don't. It's just a way to slow down most cheating. Paid cheats that are updated daily/weekly are obviously always going to exist and will always get through.

They just said today that they have already stopped 330k attempts to cheat, and that's just in 2-3 days. So while it is not stopping 100% of cheating, it is obviously doing a lot still.

>>717718121
>>when they expected 100 million paid players
They have never expected 100 million paid players. They said that their goal is 100 million for BF6's lifetime and that includes the F2P BR mode.

>>717718149
>try to open game
>"WHOOPS NO SECURE BOOT DETECTED CHUD GO AWAY"
>they mark this as a "cheating attempt"
>retards eat up their fake numbers
good job

>this unprecedented level of jeetseethe/bugseethe due to secure boot requirement
you love to see it

>>717717421
>this wouldn't be a problem for the majority of people
it's not lol
you are screeching like a retard over something only schizophrenic people care about

>>717717698
They're including the number of people who tried to start it but couldn't launch due to no secure boot lmao. This game is going to be dead as fuck on PC, I promise.

>>717717698
>>717718471
i forgot to mention I have an i5-2500k and a GTX 670 btw

how is /vg/ the most tech illiterate board on this website lol
gamers are dumb as fuck man, i don't get it

>>717718598
you're on /v/ sis

>>717718654
same shit my nigga

>>717712118 (OP)
>fuck around in my bios to switch on a feature that’s already been circumvented, while breaking a bunch of my older games and blocking the dx driver level dll injectors I use for modding singleplayer and vr stuff
uh, no?

>>717718739
>dx driver level dll injectors I use for modding
you're a cheater, gotcha

>>717718791
if i was I wouldn't worry about secure boot, since it doesn't stop shit

I haven't played a battlefield game since 1943. I don't particularly care to give it another try

>>717718149
Don't know about those numbers but EA shouldn't be doing this kind of shit having the user tinker around their hardware.
Hackers will always find a way no matter how tough the security system is, in my experience the best way to deal with this is dedicated servers that have a voting/kick player out as an option.

>>717712118 (OP)
In less than a year you won't be able to log onto the internet without secureboot.
Your TPM module won't let you

>>717718963
>mfw the PAE extensions block the code cave and I can't run my ASLR any more

>>717712118 (OP)
people complain about this but i bet their Windows privacy settings look like this

>>717712250
fippy bippy as always

>>717718963
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.

>>717718915
>Don't know about those numbers but EA shouldn't be doing this kind of shit having the user tinker around their hardware.
It's very likely going to be the future for multiplayer games, whether we like it or not. LoL, Valorant, Fortnite(tournament mode), CoD BLOPS 6, The Finals, CS2 FaceIt, etc. already require it and now we have BF6, CoD BLOPS 7, and Arc Raiders coming up which will also require it.

>>717719116
hehe

>>717714402
>All games should do this
All games WILL do this. Game companies have been wanting to deal with cheaters for good for a long time and this will make it much easier to permanently ban all cheaters going forward. Wait until they add this to single player games.

>>717717164
Windows 11 needs secure boot to even install, don't tell me you changed registry settings to bypass it like an idiot.

>>717712118 (OP)
Do they say this before you buy the game?
I'd refund it if they just have some random requirement after I've installed it.

>>717713394
All requirements and conditions must be visible before purchase in short list format.

>windows auto updates are annoy-ACK!

FUCKING GET OUT, I WANT TO PLAY.

WASN'T THIS SECURE BOOT SHIT STOPPING EVERYONE? I'VE BEEN SITTING ON QUEUE FOR 20 MINUTES, FUCK OFF

>>717715015
Kids don't know what they have lost. Especially soon when you have to tie your real ID to most things online.
For your own protection, of course.

>>717712118 (OP)
Does Battlefield have a ranked mode? Isn't it just a huge team vs team free for all?

>>717717049
Ring0 driver from Microsoft flagged as malware by Microsoft.
Secure boot preventing you to tinker.
Win11 screenshoting your screen for the AI.

Nice future we have, hope there's nothing ulterior happening.

>>717712118 (OP)
there might be a hamas member hiding in your boot sequence, activate secure boot

>>717713187
Someone should check if self-signed secure boot breaks battleshitfield. It probably requires the Microshart PK/KEK.

>717717189
You do realize ea can access it without secure boot, right?

>>717720607
>Ring0 driver from Microsoft flagged as malware by Microsoft.
use secure signed drivers rather than some chinese rootkit slop you found on github
>Secure boot preventing you to tinker.
Secure boot can be disabled and you can also roll your own keys
>Win11 screenshoting your screen for the AI.
Not an issue on my PC, stop using Home editions of Windows for the unwashed plebs

>>717712118 (OP)
/v/ jeets not understanding the difference between being unable to do something and being unwilling. I REFUSE to do the work of the faggot dev jannies at DICE.

>>717713918
i have like 17 years of history of hating but using linux. for normal people it is already ****ready**** for as long as they do not need some specific software. old games mostly work and software that is more special usually can has his functionality emulated via sh scripts and a lot of tinkering. However, a normal person can already use linux as a daily driver.
I really blame Microsoft for them not making Windows 11 good, but ultra shit


>>717716992
the idea is that more people should have a freedom of choice. I personally cannot use Linux for everything but it does make for a good dev mashine and a good gaming Steam Deck. If all you do on your PC is use a browser and play basic bitch Steam games Linux is already good enough

>>717721845
>muh jeets
But we all know at least 80% of shitskin esls like you are beaners, 10% are chinks, 5% are seamonkeys, and 5% jeets
and clealry favelamonkey is the worst kind of shitkin of all

Anyone here playing this on Xbox?

I downloaded the game the other day but it said it all the game modes were locked because I didn't have game pass. However this was on the 8th and apparently the beta was only open on the 9th and 10th.

Maybe I was locked out because it wasn't open? Can any bros confirm if I can redownload and play right now without game pass?

>>717712118 (OP)
Congratulations, your computer saved you from playing FIFA with guns.

>>717722663
TVTH NVKE

>>717712118 (OP)
>EA
There's your fucking problem, you are playing trash.

>>717722956
you can play the game now, Early Access was on 7th and 8th for the people who buy the overprice super mega edition, beta weekend is this weekend, and a second one starting thursday

It's the monster hunter problem. Try buying a pc made within the last 10 years.

>>717712118 (OP)
unless you're trying to play on an ancient computer i can't actually see this being an issue

>>717712513
>It makes it so you can't dual boot Linux (aside of exclusively a couple big corpo ones with signed kernels)
most of the relevant linux distros are signed, plus
1. it can be easily toggled at any time in the exceptional circumstance that you actually will be dual booting unusual linux distributions on a regular basis (rare)
2. many secure boot implementations let you manually whitelist a bootloader if for some reason it's not already on the approved list
3. even if that's not the case, there are shims and bootloaders that are signed for secure boot out there that you can just use to chainload whatever the fuck you want

meanwhile, not using secure boot means that malware can easily mitm the boot process and you'd be none the wiser

the only valid reason not to use secure boot is if you're on a board that doesn't support it (~2011 or earlier) or if purely for convenience's sake you're temporarily turning it off for i.e. loading a linux rescue drive as a one-time thing

>>717723251
But specifically can I play it without Xbox live/game pass?

I downloaded it the other day and it had the game modes locked and said it was because I didnt have Xbox live, only let me into the firing range mode.

>>717717231
>its okay we bend over and take the dick in the ass!!!
kill yourself, like, right now do it

>>717723459
Yeah, pre-beta you could only get into the firing range
you should be able to play it now
but bear in mind if you're an Xbox gamer, it's online play so you will need your Xbox gold or whatever the fuck it is

>change secure boot on
>black screen
>uh oh
>actually, super easy to fix. just popped my cmos battery
>apparently it was even easier. I just had to plug my video cable into mobo. all that happen was some setting needed to be toggled beforehand and my gpu wasn't being seen
>change that setting first. intel something
>return on secure boot
>it works fine
and i'm sure im in the minority that had an issue, and it was that easier
there's no excuse

>>717720607
>Win11 screenshoting your screen for the AI.
It only does this if you specifically enable Copilot and tick a bunch of boxes. I'm all for ragging on Microsoft for this because it's extremely stupid, but it's something you have to opt into and basically every debloater under the sun removes Copilot entirely.

EA games are all shit anyway, battlefield hasn't been good since 2142

>>717720345
you can usually dial this in without third party tools via group policy if you want. you can set them to not auto-downlaod or install, or if you want minor updates but not major ones you can set a target major and minor version so it never tries to push feature upgrades. there's some other stuff in there that's useful too.

>playing games made after 2010
lol

>>717723893
shhh shhh it's a tech illiterate from south america, don't spoonfeed it, if it's driven off the internet, then it's good for us.

Linux troons lost.

>>717723750
The excuse is they want to cheat
Once you understand most aimbots and esp shit require secure boot off so they can run undetected by games. You'll understand why the brown people here hate it being on

>>717724080
i can't imagine secure boot having any effect either way on aimbots. secure boot just blocks unsigned boot payloads. maybe i'm wrong and i'm just out of touch but i can't imagine a ton of cheat programs that are hijacking the boot process in order to work, that seems like crazy levels of overkill. i'm guessing it's more just cheats not being readily available for whatever EA's current anticheat system is.

>>717724080
marking your connection as metered and disabling auto-update so you never get interrupted is the cheat code to a happy life.
Optionally, disable optional updates or make them opt in, disable preview builds and CFRs, and defer updates for 35 days so that you only get them when Microsoft has done their beta test on the unwashed masses and you get the update with the bugs fixed

>>717718471
>They're including the number of people who tried to start it but couldn't launch due to no secure boot lmao.
they wouldn't be included in steam charts

>>717724246
Secure Boot blocks any boot-level component that is unsigned. This includes unsigned kernel drivers and bootkits which cheats can use to masquerade as the operating system.

>>717713510
now you know how women feel when 1000 men cummed in them.

>>717712118 (OP)
Cope.

>>717713906
>your system is now a whore for EA
>its worth it

For the retards who TRULY dont understand
It isnt about solving cheating once and for all. Its about making cheating as inaccessible as possible for the majority of users. Yes there will always be cheaters using
Hardware Spoofing
Custom EFI
DMA
AHK
Dedicated Hardware Pixel Bots
Its about pricing out the majority of cheaters and all thats left are the ones with money who can afford to buy all the hardware needed to cheat.
How can you faggots not understand that. These pathetic faggots pay HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to get a kill in a video game. You might be just as stupid as them for not understanding why some anti cheat is better than no anti cheat.

>>717713906
>the game needs hypervisor access retard
>
>it runs your operating system in a virtual envirionment so it can see everything your computer is doing, even the kernel
holy fucking tech illiteracy
you have no idea how the hypervisor works in windows and it shows

>>717712118 (OP)
My hot take, if you are not using any other operating system besides windows there is no reason to have secure boot disabled. However it does not make your computer any safer. Windows routine fails integrity checks if you are infected with malware at the root level even with it enabled so it is fucking useless as feature.

>>717724850
>Windows routine fails
Ok Ranjit, none of what you said is true at all, and you won't provide a source either.

Came here to post this. I have a CPU from 2015. I'm not installing using your shitty TPM and Secureboot that is already full of CVE.
>You're too poor to buy a g
I am waiting on a 5070 TI super and to see if the 12VHPR connector is an issue at 350w. I don't want to turn my room into even more of a space heater. Go back to 150w TDP cards and sub 90w TDP cpus. Fuck off. The graphics aren't even good.

>>717724929
https://www.techspot.com/news/103999-secure-boot-rendered-useless-over-200-pc-models.html

>>717724531
There's easier and non invasive ways to achieve the same results, but that would require servers hosted by actual gamers and not held hostage to the EA overlords.

>>717712118 (OP)
Wintoddlers BTFO

>>717720341

>>717721167
>Someone should check if self-signed secure boot breaks battleshitfield.
it doesn't
>It probably requires the Microshart PK/KEK.
right, windows will not use your own keys, you have to have both for dual booting

>>717725131
>a leaked cryptographic key
>an employee posted source code containing the encrypted platform key to a public GitHub repo. They protected it with a laughably weak 4-character password that was easily cracked.
So not an exploit, but a leaked key, that has already been revoked and only affects third worlders with ancient hardware and/or don't update their system.

Keep coping ranjit

>>717725237
Look at where you are. Most of /v/ is Brazilian/Indian/Polish. The board should be called वीडियो गेम.

>>717725309
it's hilarious how they go straight to Google or ChatGPT, find the first result with a headline that seems to agree with them, don't read the article, then post it here.
I could not imagine living a life ruled by headlines kek

>>717723893
"It is ok because I can say no for now."
That's totally a mindset that will lead to a better future.

>>717721423
>use secure signed drivers
It's literally bundled with windows you brainlet. Ring0 driver in system32 is by Microsoft.
>can be disabled
If you want to miss out on some games.
>on my PC
What a dumb thing to say to defend a bad practice.

>>717725954
It's not okay, but you have to literally download Copilot, go into its settings, and manually enable it to do so because the entire purpose of the thing is to specifically tell you what is going on on your screen. You intentionally want to use that feature.

still don't know what secure boot is. it never asked me about it. do new motherboards just come with that shit enabled.

>>717724535
name one thing wrong that i said

>>717726171
It's off by default in the USA, but people outside claim it's on in certain countries. If you turn it on, it does signature verification on boot. Any files that don't match the signature, and it refuses to boot. It's to prevent some types of rootkits from being bootstrapped.

Have you ever cheated in a game /v/?

One time I botted RuneScape to fish for me, I got on the leaderboards and everything. It was warranted tho those kinda time draining games are categorically evil.

*ahem*
WORKS ON MY PC

>>717726214
Secure Boot does not run the OS in a Hypervisor retard, that would be HVCI aka Hypervisor-Enforced Code Integrity, which is a completely separate component from Secure Boot.
You can enable Secure Boot without ever needing HVCI.
Secure Boot does not use the Windows Hypervisor Platform.

Now kys for being so tech illiterate

>>717725237
No one updates their bios at the risk of bricking their PC unless they absolutely have to. No one should be expected to either due to potential instability (everything from bugs to RAM compatibility), and most not having dual bios anymore if you can even downgrade at all.
>but muh EzFlash/QFlash
It's shit
>>717726171
It's basically the lowest layer of the onion working outward. It starts with a chip on your motherboard checking if it has a secret code in its encrypted database at which point it hands it off to bunch of other shit in a chain. If one of the chains it doesn't boot. So Jeetware theoretically can't be installed below it if they don't have a goodboy key set in the lowest level chip. Linux people turn it off because they don't get goodboy keys, only Windows and some other institutional spookware.

>>717713809
>amd

figures

>>717726373
Next you'll tell me that Windows Media Player doesn't use AI to take screenshots of my PC.

>>717726169
2028: MS makes it default.
You: I could never have seen this coming! Or more likely you will never realize and keep saying that it's opt-in because you don't know better.

>forcing the average COD mouthbreather have to go into their BIOS and make changes

How exactly is this shit panning out right now? I honestly can't even imagine it.

>>717723918
every single thing i tried before using that app never fucking worked, i haven't updated in over a year and only updated last year so i could fucking play rift apart because it required it for some fucking reason

>>717726394
>No one updates their bios at the risk of bricking their PC unless they absolutely have to.
Completely incorrect, especially in the OEM world. UEFI updates come straight down either through Windows Update or the OEMs update tool. Enterprises also have access to tools for remote deployment across their environment.
>Next you'll tell me that Windows Media Player doesn't use AI to take screenshots of my PC.
Considering Windows Media Player is a component that has not received any feature updates since Windows 8.1 with WMP12, I can tell you straight up it doesn't.
Moron

>>717726589
second half meant for >>717726527

>>717726171
>still don't know what secure boot is. it never asked me about it. do new motherboards just come with that shit enabled.
In laymen's terms:

When you turn on your computer, first your motherboard loads (this is the bios)
Then, your motherboard reads your hard drive to boot your operating system (the OS, this is windows)
However, there's some software that loads between these two steps. As in, after the bios but before your OS.
Most of this software is legitimate, but some viruses and malware use this window because launching before your OS can make it so they're invisible to the OS. In the context of video games, you could install hacks that boot before your OS, and in that case, literally no anticheat can ever detect it preemptively.

Secure Boot makes it so NOTHING can boot before your OS. This helps a videogame's anticheat detect hacks better, because now nothing can hide from it outside of the OS.

>does secure boot hurt my computer?
If you have to ask, 100% no. You can leave it on forever and never notice.
>then why does anyone care
1% of posts have legitimate software that can't run with secure boot enabled, so switching it on and off to play one video game is annoying.
99% of posts care more about reliving the tortanic than having legitimate discussion. This is unfortunately modern /v/ culture and we can't go back. Expect to see this thread daily for the next decade.

>>717726589
Yeah, okay. I heard from my very reputable friends Rajesh and Sameer on /v/ that I need to upgrade to linux and buy a RX580 so Notepad doesn't install rootkits.

>>717726740
You should only use AMD FX processor as well sir to avoid the Microsoft Plutonium or however the masala is pooped in

>>717726693
the thumbnail of this looks like you fucked up some AMD Threadrippers with thermal paste

>secure boot
what a retarded meme. yeah im sure jamal is going to break into your house with a usb stick to compromise your bootloader.

>>717726987
>confuses physical security with digital security because he's tech illiterate
G
M
S

>>717726931
I'd fuck up their threadrippers with my thermal paste, if you know what I mean

>>717726169
Users have turned it on by mistake, MS removed it last year and brought it back now, it is supposed to crop out sensitive stuff but doesn't. But you can totally trust it to be off guys.

>>717727107
what did he mean by this

>>717712118 (OP)
My friend can't even enable it on his computer without reinstalling Windows since he installed with CSM (default on his BIOS) and enabling it just stops the system from booting.

>>717727190
>he installed with CSM
kek self inflicted

>>717727190
>CSM
More like CSAM, amirite folks?

>>717717231
>early 10s
No one was using secure boot before 10 released, which was in 2015. And no one was using 10 in 2015.

>>717727190
Your friend sounds like a retard KEK

>>717712250
>elite platform
paying monthly for online and getting your account suspended for nono words, truly the patrician gaming platform.

>>717727268
Completely false, new Windows 8 PCs came with Secure Boot enabled by default as per the terms of the OEM license agreement, and I was using it on an ASUS M5A99X Evo in 2013

>>717727230
>>717727253
>>717727353
He's a tech illiterate. Tried to help him but he doesn't want to format his shit just for a game.

>>717727406
>Windows 8 PCs
aka laptops no one bought

>>717727410
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/mbr-to-gpt
>converts without data loss
>reboot
>enable UEFI and secure boot

>>717725132
??? How would that help

>>717713187
>Are you implying that setting up your own keys and signing your own kernels
Maybe they find it fun to brick their own PC for security theater.

>>717727469
>converts without data loss
good one microsoft

>enable secure boot
>windows shits itself for no reason on an update
>can't boot from a usb stick to fix it because it's not microsissy approved
Enjoy your cuck cage

>>717712118 (OP)
I enabled it to play the beta but I'm not buying the game just to spite on them. It doesn't even look or play better than BF1, and the engineer is an annoying whore, so triple fuck EA.

>>717727458
>aka laptops no one bought
Except they did buy them, many people in business just took advantage of the downgrade rights for business PCs. Windows 8 had 40m license activations in its first month. Windows has also supported UEFI boot since Vista.
Interestingly enough, at the end of ESU, Windows 7 got Secure Boot support as well.

>>717727621
It's not because windows 10 is good. it's that Windows 11 is worse.

>>717727637
Can’t you just turn it off

>>717712513
YWNBAW, troonix lol

>>717727583
>good one microsoft
good one rajesh

>>717727659
It isn't. And 10 wasn't worse than 7 and 8. Some of you guys just hate change, even changes for the better.

I’m buying a new gaming PC this fall, does Windows 11 come with secure boot enabled by default?

>>717727621
In 2015 I was using Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell.
Windows 7 babyduck memes don't work on me sis.
>>717727637
>turns off Secure Boot temporarily
>do what I need to do with Hiren's Boot CD or whatever
>turn it back on
wow, so hard.

>a-at least when someone has physical or root access to my machine my boot partition won't be hacked
Ok but you're still in a botnet and ivan is encrypting all your files and you need 0.5btc to get them back.

>>717724246
Anything it doesn't affect is very trivial to detect.

>>717727796
Depends, if you're buying it from an OEM, yes. It's required by Microsoft for OEM licensing and has been since Windows 8.
If you're building it yourself, you'll need to check the UEFI on your motherboard.

>>717727813
>if something happens that's completely unrelated to Secure Boot, then botnet ivan bitcoin encryption
is this really the best they're sending

>>717727410
He should format anyway because CSM is dog shit and using it is a mistake. Regardless of whether he enables secure boot or not.

>>717727985
I bet his favelafriend put in a 3TB hard drive and was like
>what da fuck ese, why I can only use 2TB

>>717727985
>CSM caca perro
ok microjeet

I want to talk about how shit the beta is, but half of /v/ are luddites that want to complain about irrelevant shit like secureboot.

>>717728028
I don't use any ms software.

>>717727764
sir please do the secure boot tpm for copilot security thanks kind sir

>>717727621
I would still be using 7 if it wasn't phased out. 10 had 0 usability improvements whatsoever. They just added more bloat and spyware. 11 is just 10 up to 11

>>717728129
>true Indian
>doesn't know what any of those things are and merges them in his "mind" (vindaloo and shit sloshing around in his skull)

What's the point of all of this shit if it doesn't prevent what it is setting out to prevent?

>>717714549

Why does a game need to know how my computer boots?

>>717729058
It's just one line of defense. It's like not using a condom because they can fail in some circumstances.
>welp, it's not 100%, so raw dog time
>why do I have 43 kids?

>>717729058
legal access to all your data and everything you have ever done.

>>717729290
>totally unrelated
>but schizos gonna schizo

>>717729282
But it's not even discouraging cheating at all, nor does it target cheating that is using external computer hardware. Cloud cheating is an actual thing.

>>717712118 (OP)
I don't care about the secure boot aspect, its gay but whatever. My complaint is needing to have the latest Njudea drivers, said drivers just so happen to suck ass for me and break a bunch of other games. I decided to just uninstall the beta and opt to redownload BF4 instead after a few hours. Sure there's less people to play with, but I'd rather play a game that doesn't force me to download buggy "game-ready" drivers just to try it out.

>>717729329
It's one avenue that can be blocked, and it's still one that's used heavily. Even if cheating is still rampant, you've killed a sizable percentage of methods by forcing secure boot. There's literally no reason to not use it other than:
>you dual boot something that doesn't support secure boot
>you don't have hardware that supports it
For the first scenario, that's annoying and it sucks to be in that situation.
For the second, upgrade your potato. TPM 2.0 has been standard for 9 years.

>>717729058
It DOES help.
The thing with cheats is that it's a never-ending game of cat and mouse. The only way for a game to be 100% hacker free is for it to be so unpopular for anyone to bother making new ones.

Personally, I think it was better when community servers did their thing and moderated people.

>>717714549
So you would need it if it did bad things to your pc? That's kind of a weird reply.

>>717729893
Can't really do that anymore, unfortunately. It only really worked back when the internet was mostly "US"-only.

>>717730037
But the British invented the internet in 1989, 20 years after the internet launched in California!

>>717727621
>>717728182
I would STILL be on Win XP if I hadn't been forced

>>717732158
Because you remember the good times but not the bad times.

the game is shit anyway

>>717733039
I never used those. I found it was much simpler to just not get viruses.

>>717712118 (OP)
this came out at a good time when i needed to upgrade to Windows 11 for something and had to reconfigure a lot of shit in my bios to upgrade. glad i did, games are running better and i like the feel of Windows 11 a bit more than 10

>>717714813
games will still install signed rootkits

>>717712118 (OP)
worst game ever

>>717729058
yeah we might as well just not have border control at all since a couple of them got through anyway

>>717712341
It keeps you from using hacks but you can still buy the EA approved hacks like you can for every online game

>>717734017
They made that argument against the wall.

Im more annoyed that the game forces you to update to the most current video drivers, it doesn't just ask you to it won't let you play the fucking game without them

>>717713735
There are tons of console cheaters who think they are slick. It’s called buying or modding your console, not to mention the controller aimbot faggotry

Why a fucking Video game need access to my BIOS configuration

>>717720476
Who cares, turn off the screens and go outside. People will do anything to romanticize the past.

lol gamers once again eating shit and loving it, all to play DoD funded junk from fucking EA.

>>717712118 (OP)
>unfocused foto of a a screen

>>717736487
How else am I supposed to post a picture? They don't have internet on computers yet (maybe Apples, because they invented it).

There’s too many games to play to allow them that kind of access to your machine, way too many

Good thing I stopped playing this slop series when I was 25. That was 15 years ago btw.

How many classes are black women?

>>717727392
>paying monthly for online
fast queue times and no cheaters, I will take that over the PCtroongaming experience
>getting your account suspended for nono words
why are you pretending that the same doesn't happen on pc?
>truly the patrician gaming platform.
it really is, keep seething

>>717714657
It worked for steps 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
You're insane for thinking consumer indifference won't work for steps 7, 8, 9 and 10.
You already lost little guy.

for those of you all concerned about your privacy and security because of secure boot, i have but one question: do any of you own a smartphone?

>>717712118 (OP)
Oh
And nothing of value was lost

>>717740057

>>717712118 (OP)
His silence is deafening

>enable the securejew goy!
Fuck off
https://secret.club/2021/06/28/windows11-tpms.html

>>717740057
No.
What now, retard?

>>717740057

Computers were designed to be as free as a piece of hardware can be. The fact that a software application of any kind tries enforce BIOS control over the system is pure bullshit. It's like the Valorant Rootkit that demands kernel access under the false pretense of enforcing security.

This is another attempt to take control of people's machines and no matter the angle the shills are going to try to pull on this one, this is abusive unnecessary trash.

>This thread
Boiling the frog works, huh?

>trannyfield
that was your first mistake
the second I saw my normie steam friends playing this, when they’ve never played another battlefield, it knew it was casual CoD-chasing garbage

>>717740625
In 20 years, my current day PC will be one of the last bastions of digital freedom until it finally croaks

1. Open Battlefield 6
2. Unplug ethernet
3. Wait for it to get to the main menu
4. replug Ethernet
5. play the game without needing secureboot

>>717740057
IPHONE VENEZULA LMAO

>>717712250
Good morning sir.

>>717713187
>Are you implying that setting up your own keys and signing your own kernels is something anyone just switching to Linux is going to do?
CatchyOS has a 5 min guide already on their website.

>This is another attempt to take control of people's machines
You do know that one of the biggest problems FOSS/Loonix has right now is schitzo politcal devs who sabotarge, backdoor and supplychain attack things because they are ass hurt Trump won and lose internet debates and arguments right?
When has Bill Gates ever retaliated against a user of Windows, when they say Fuck Microsoft?

>>717743096
>You do know that one of the biggest problems FOSS/Loonix has right now is schitzo politcal devs who sabotarge, backdoor and supplychain attack things because they are ass hurt Trump won and lose internet debates and arguments right?
Name five times this happened.

My PlayStation© 5 Professional does not have this problem.

>>717727392
>paying monthly for online
I play on the ps3

Linux is basically an anti-virus these days for games containing malware.

>>717712118 (OP)
I thought secureboot and tpm were enabled by default on modern systems
poo in the loo

So with Empire State being the infantry only slop map we get next week, is Manhattan Bridge going to be the big ass city map? I just want a Siege of Shanghai-like.
They don't know how cool that was still. BF urban maps were always european or middle eastern shitholes and then all of a sudden there's Shanghai. I just want tall buildings and helicopters and tanks rolling through streets.
Empire State makes the map sound a lot more grand than a fucking Nuketown-like.

>>717743662
Xlibire attacks
The supply chain attack on node.js
GraphenOS dev thinking Luis Rossmann is out to kill him with a youtube comment.
The CoC being pushed in to software and the resulting cancellation attempts on people with right wing views.
Sabotarge and shit like this is a very big problem in FOSS.
Asai "Lina" Power Word:Hector Martin's faggotry and sabotage attempts in the Kernel, forcing Linus himself to tell him to fuck off.
With Windows, you aint going to get a spiteful sperg trying to ruin your life or upload malware to your computer, if you talk about Bill Gates negatively. With Linux and FOSS, you never no what kind of unstable spiteful manchild has write access to packages and what small event will set him off on a spiteful crusade to get "even" with internet "enemy's".
You don't have any freedom in FOSS, you have a domestic abuser in charge instead.

>>717719260

>>717727775
>It isn't
It absolutely is and if they hadn't artificially dropped support for new CPUs on Win7 I would still be using it.

>Either have to trust Rajesh who got hired last week on minimum wage or trust Lilith that recently put a CoC into "her" repos
Modern computing is grim.

>>717746347
>trust a closed source project by a company that only wishes to exploit you, openly, while working with Microjews to erode your freedoms
or
>trust some mentally ill coder tranny whose code is open source and other than what they are there's nothing wrong with the situation
I know which I'll choose

>>717747027
>Its open source so its always safe
LMFAO
You can always tell the computer midwits.
Do you know how much malicious code is on github right now?

Haven't met anyone suspicious. I'm not saying there are no cheaters, but it's definitely not a big deal, at least on Yuropean servers.

>>717747445
>>Its open source so its always safe
try
>it's open source so I can look if it's safe
you fucking tech-illiterate boomer

>>717747445
a utility i used to use to make dyson sphere program run better was mysteriously changed to an .exe that does all kinds of talking to servers. no update notes, just a half dozen angry posts from users about the mod being gone and replaced with an indian scam. i hate upgrading my PC because shit i used to use no longer works/exists, but it's looking more and more like my toaster is being deliberately phased out wherever possible

>>717712118 (OP)
>play for 20 minutes
>get bored
>go back to bf4
not my problem

>>717714549

>>717712341
>appeal to triviality
if it does nothing, why have it

>>717730014

>>717712118 (OP)
Windows 11 itself already requires TPM and secure boot unless you specifically create a boot disk that disables the requirement using a 3rd party tool.

>does stop cheaters
>doesn't protect your PC
waow amahzing

>>717726171
third world (south america, southeast asia, east europe, india) who post on /vg/, /v/, Reddit are unable to find SecureBoot in the BIOS because they have PC Vegan builds from 2011. A modern CPU from the last 8 years with have SecureBoot ready CPUs, but third world PC fanboys who brag about piracy cannot even upgrade to Windows 11 which requires SecureBoot.

It's true it's disabled by default in most 8 year old PCs. Even if they can turn it on, VRAM lacking PC builds can't play anyhow. Those 8gb vram master race PC builds, lol.

>>717722956
Yes, I was happily playing last night on the Xbox.

>>717747492
>He thinks anyone truly looks
LMFAO

>>717747492
>>it's open source so I can look if it's safe
lol things like this is so based on wishful thinking and groupthink.
Linux almost got majorly backdoored last year because of a random github was compromised and people only noticed because the compiled code made another program 2ms longer in executing. None of the malicious code was found by someone reading commits to the github you massive fag.
In fact it lead to the "more eyes on the code" shit being dispoven.

>>717717214
sir this is a real life

>>717724531
You can get a Cronus Zen for less than 100€

>>717744742
>GraphenOS dev thinking Luis Rossmann is out to kill him with a youtube comment.
Lmao how did I miss this

>>717712118 (OP)
i played the "beta", it's good. but i won't play it anymore because it's just that, a demo. nothing sticks. i am also not suffering from fomo so those challenge rewards can go f*ck themselves

>>717736186
people will do anything to romantize the outside.

>>717733039
I think I got a virus maybe once, and even then it wasn't bbad
Maybe don't download porn from shady ad's websites

>all these normie /v/tards chomping at the bit and doing anything and everything to defend EA's caustic choices just to play the latest botnet goyslop that's going to spit in the face of players and og battlefield enjoyers
not fucking with this shit, enjoy selling your soul for that one bit of misdirected escapism.

>>717757237
>normie
Anyway, sorry about your schizophrenia, nigger

>>717712513
>can't dual boot linux
works on my machine

>>717712118 (OP)
this should be on by default on most systems. it's typically not a problem unless you dual boot (why tf would you want to do this) or went in and manually turned it off for whatever reason.

secure boot protects against boot/root kits so i dunno why you'd want it disabled anyways

>>717757973
sorry about your psychopath spectrum, autist

>>717757973
consolefag mobileposter

Sometimes I hit a tank with my rocket for 25 damage and other times 75. Why?

>>717748352
Have you been asleep? Half the /v/ thread catalog are third world (South America, India, Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe) bragging about being on Windows 10. The super majority of /v Valve Vegan/ PC fanboys cannot upgrade to Windows 11 due to not meeting TPM 2.0 or SecureBoot standards on the CPU side. And their GPUs are all 8GB shitstains that aren't even capable of 1080p for modern games anymore. PC gaming master race lol, 800 dollars for GPUs and 400 dollars CPUs nowadays.

>>717712250
FPBP pc gayamers in shambles.

>>717712118 (OP)
the type of "person" that will support this is the type of "person" that took the jab

>>717762835
I'm a luddite, what is the downside of enabling secure boot?

>>717763082
>>717763082
A computer program has no business taking control of your BIOS configuration.

>>717712118 (OP)
>learn how to use secure boot retard

>>717757237
Third worlders (Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, South America, India) with 2010 CPUs and GTX 750 3GB cry out in pain knowing that modern CPU upgrade is 400 dollars, 400 dollars again for 8GB VRAM (worthless) or 800 dollars for 16GB VRAM GPU. When can you upgrade to Windows 11? Oh, need to buy that new motherboard too with TPM support. How much are we spending so far on 3 PC components, up to middle of 1,400 dollars give or take?

lolc PC vegans are crazy.

you don't have it disabled
you just don't have the option

>don't upgrade pc
>still complain
You asked for this

Is the SecureBoot requirement the newest "this game is shit, don't bother" red flag?

>>717724531
Who do you think is seething about it? The priced out cheaters, lol

>>717712513
>It's a hindrance for Linux adoption in general.
Holy based. Turning it on right now.

>>717712118 (OP)
works on my machine

>>717739967
>no cheaters

>>717739967
>no cheaters
>

>>717767498
>>717712513

GNU Linux is currently the last bastion of Freedom.

With all this secure boot and whatever the fuck else
Can we talk about how fucking the game is $70???
Who the fuck is unironically going to buy a game that is $70 that only has multiplayer? Wasn't the entire point of multiplayer games only being half price of normal games?
I agree the secure boot is retarded solely because of the privacy issues, but wouldn't the price tag be the most important thing? Why is everyone just letting that go?

>>717768582
>freedom
>can't use the programs you like
>can't play the games you want
>forced to use amd
yeah, nice freedom

>>717768968
>Can we talk about how fucking the game is $70???
you are 5 years too late

>>717717049
>core isolation
Enjoy losing 10+% performance for a security feature that is irrelevant for 99% of users. Retard.