Thread 717725501

This is the single biggest upgrade you can make to a gaming PC since the SSD.

>>717725501 (OP)
*burns in*

>>717725651
>he cant afford an $800 yearly qd-oled subscription

>>717725501 (OP)
>motion blur as bad as lcd's unless you get a 480hz panel and combine it with an experimental crt beam simulator shader, which only works on specific emulators and nothing else
>abl can't be disabled
>vrr flickers like a motherfucker
>burn in
>blue diodes burn out faster than the red/green ones
>absurd cost
>12 month lifespan then you have to buy a new one
Honestly i'll stick with my plasma because it has none of those problems.

>>717725947
>>motion blur as bad as lcd's unless you get a 480hz panel
240hz is enough, even 32" does 240 these days

My 4K 27" 240hz QD OLED screen is great, been using it for 4 months or so.

>>717725501 (OP)
when will the miniLED monitors become widely available? Aren't they like, oled, but without burn ins?

>>717725501 (OP)
Agreed, bought one for Christmas and replayed Deus Ex on it, has never looked better

>>717727953
They're already out
You're thinking of microLED which will never happen for normal people.

>>717725501 (OP)
Try using a projector

>>717727953
You can buy miniled monitors with 1152 dimming zones & HDR1000 at 1440p for as low as like $300 now.
OP is right in that at least for me its been a far more meaningful upgrade since I cant really justify buying a new GPU when the value isnt there and my 3090 runs everything

>>717729419
>You're thinking of microLED which will never happen for normal people.
That's what they said about OLED 20 years ago. MicroLED 2045 LET'S GO

>>717730303
MicroLED can't be shrunk down to monitor sizes. You will see some TVs, but that's it.
QDEL is more efficient, easier to make, and already exists.

>>717725501 (OP)
>vrr flicker
>burn in
For PC use? Fuck no. Too many static elements.
OLED is for watching movies and shows with some occasional gaming on a big ass tv screen.

>>717730374
When is the burn-in supposed to start?

>>717730354
>MicroLED can't be shrunk down to monitor sizes.

>>717725947
>a bunch of petty shit I wont even notice unless you brought it up

>>717725501 (OP)
QD-OLEDs suck, buy a WOLED monitor

>>717730568
That's QDEL masquerading as microLED.
Go look at every real world microLED display that's been shown off at trade shows, they are minimum 70"+

>>717730708
WOLED is worse in every single metric other than white brightness levels. Color brightness is worse than QD-OLED

>>717730354
>5 years ago a uLED TV was 292"
>3 years ago they got it down to 146"
>last year samsung put an 89" TV on sale
>couple months ago they announced a monolithic 65" display
They're rapidly coming down in size.

>>717731251
And they will cost more than QDEL while doing it.

>>717725501 (OP)
>costs less than the GPU
>GPU still can't power it in anything released within the last 10 years
>expires in 2 years

>>717731197
>they are minimum 70"+

>>717725947
OLED is such a meme display tech and people keep shilling it lmao.
and it's not just CRTrannies coping, I'd rather have a TN panel over OLED or IPS any day.

>>717731415
What's wrong with IPS
It actually works and used by actual gamers not secondaries here

>>717731283
>292" TV was $1m
>89" TV is $100,000
They're rapidly coming down in price.

>>717725651
Your shit is only gonna get burn-ins if you literally never do pixel cleaning and let it sit on the same fucking static screen for hours on end.

>>717731457
they all have motion blur, but the only people still making TN panels are super marked up esports 1080p displays pushing 600hz. zowie is the only people making them now.

>>717731369
That's rebranded QDEL

>>717731489
QDEL will be under $1000 faster than microLED possibly can.

>>717731367
Nothing released in the last 10 years is worth playing other than Elden Ring, and that's hard locked at 60fps and isn't hard to run

>>717731415
Yeah that's why ever phone has one now and it's considered unacceptable if it doesn't have one

>>717731553
what are the benefits of this compared to OLED?

>>717731415
You are extremely retarded lmao

>>717731613
then you don't actually play any old games at high resolution because they didn't program the UI correctly to scale up to higher resolutions in the vast majority of the games.

Why exactly do oledkeks get mad when I tell them I'm happy with my ips monitor?

>>717731618
phones are built to last 2 years maximum.
what's the lifespan of an OLED display?

>>717731624
It's literally microLED but done with quantum dots rather than LEDs.
Some companies call it "nanoLED". You can literally print the quantum dots with an inkjet style printer, but connecting those quantum dots to wires is hard to do.

>>717731683
Maybe if you're playing games from the late 90s early 2000s. Everything after about 2003 has UIs that scale up fine.

>>717731713
No one is mad that you like slop.

>>717731624
If they can get it up and running without its tons of issues it has at the moment, including not being able to function on monitors larger than 18 inches it would potentially be OLED with way higher color accuracy and a longer lifespan.

>>717731672
>no arguements
Eat shit and neck yourself.

any monitor industry heads know whats going on with pholed or that tandem shit? also why do those dual 240hz/480hz monitors can only do two resolutions? i want a letterboxed 1600p pushed to as high hz (kill chroma subsampling or anything non essential to get there)

>>717731738
lotro released 2007, still gets updated, still doesn't scale to 2160 correctly.
titan quest, 2006, got a new expansion in 2021, added some UI size increase but still smaller than is comfortable at 2160.
lots of games have this issue. plus there's desktop OS DPI scaling issues.

>>717730708
i love my glossy WOLED so fucking much

>>717731738
>>717731796
ok but does it solve any of the issues with OLED, primarily the burn-in, but also the flickering and motion blur?

>>717731869
you had no argument to begin with you brain damaged broke fuck. why the hell would he have posted an argument to your nonsensical povertybabble?

>>717727953
You would have to be extremely aggressive with static content and pretty much refuse to use certain settings that help mitigate issues, in order for you to see burn ins within a year of purchase.

>>717731713
no one is mad, dipshit. the only angry people in oled threads are crtrannies, poors, and retards who were psyopped by crtrannies and poors
oledGODS literally have no reason to be upset

if you havent bought one until now, which you shouldnt these are horrible devices.
then wait abit more for qdel screens, look better than odel, a fraction of the cost to make with no burn in so bo need to let it cool down and stop playing like with odel.
expected to start releasing screens by end of the year i hope.

>>717732109
>>717732031
someone's bootyblasted. lol

>>717725501 (OP)
I think I'm gonna buy an 1440p OLED ultrawide while I wait for 5k2k OLEDs to get cheaper.

>>717732186
why would I be angry? I enjoy my video games on either my OLED monitor or OLED TV depending on my mood. feels good man. I don't give anything even remotely resembling a fuck what you coping faggots use

>>717732209
bro 5090s can't even keep a stable 144 fps at 4k, and you need to use OS scaling to use the desktop, losing all the extra screen real estate you're supposed to gain from increasing your resolution, why would you want 5k?

>>717732413
I love technology. It's really that simple.

>>717731526
I dont notice any motion blur, but I do notice the shit colors on TN

>>717725947
my panny plasma is approaching 20 years old. I dont know what ill do when it dies

>>717732019
It won't burn in.
You could make them have no motion blur or flickering, but that would require firmware level controls. You could flicker at 1000hz like a plasma, but if plain old sample and hold is used then it will have motion blur.

>>717731929
Morrowind does not have this problem.

>>717731502
What about like the task bar? Does that still happen?

>>717732109

FUCK OFF. OLEDs Suck. Want proof. The high end mastering monitors from Dolby, Sony and Canon ALL use LCDs. OLED was created to suck you dumbass consumers cucks dry.

Not even FULL RGB OLEDs can match the picture quality of a mastering ultra high end LCD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7BCqdpdj2Q&t=25s

OLED fanboys are cucks that like to piss away their money.

>>717733275
I do not care about the argument you are having but please know that regardless of what you're saying there is nothing on this earth that could make me willingly click on a video with this in the thumbnail.

>>717733416

That's because you want to hide from the truth that OLED is a scam.

>>717733101
what an ignorant motherfucker, lmao. that's like saying the best mastering headphones are the best quality for home use. stupid fuck.

>>717733471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRqPRw9Zziw&t=31s

>>717733621
not clicking. keep crying broke faggot

>>717733468
No I had the wonderful pleasure of viewing that giant blister of a lip on my lovely IPS monitor.
I am going to close this thread now so that you may no longer sully its screen.

>>717732637
Become one with the Plasma screen?

>>717730354
They have been able to shrink down MicroLED and OLED so much so that they have been creating monitor sizes like this just last year.

>>717733663
>Broke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMc_wG2dqSk

I wonder why Canon doesn't use OLED in their $40,000 mastering displays?

24" 240hz OLED when?

>>717730374
you forgot oled monitors need to rest every 4hours, they gets very tired
>>717730514
right after your warranty expires

>>717734191
>right after your warranty expires
3 years with no burn in would be great. Regular LCD's from the start have bleeding that's worse than normal burn in.

>>717733275
Stop posting this faggot chink here

Is there such thing as matte OLED? I fucking hate reflective screen.

>>717734374
There is

>>717733275
No matter how much bullshit you spew you will never get a better picture on current monitors than on an OLED.
Something like a BenQ MOBIUZ EX321UX would be a good second pic and cheaper as well, but it's not gonna be as good. Especially not if you want HDR, which is becoming ever more relevant

>>717727953
they're coming later this year or next year but the prices don't seem all that competitive with oleds from what I've seen at computex/CES and that was before all the tariff autism

>>717731929
Just use lossless scaling instead

>>717728326
Play Doom 3 next, not the BFG edition tho.

>>717734014
retarded frog
just get 27" 4K at this point

>>717725651
fpbp

>>717730374
>vrr flicker
literally just turn VRR off, it's pointless

>>717737607
OLED copes are so funny

>>717737417
27" requires eye travel. 24" is the perfect size for a desktop monitor.

>>717737678
stop drinking so much soda you're getting glaucoma

>>717725501 (OP)
t. have a alienware 27 inch qd oled 1440p monitor
kill yourself it adds almost nothing
upgrading to 4k is the next level up

>>717737678
Get better eyes.

>>717734374
most oled monitors (like 90%+) are matte. I had to go out of my way to get a glossy, I got it 1 year ago and it was literally one of the if not the only glossy model on the market

>>717737861
People with bad eyes need a bigger screen.

OLE OLE

>>717738032
If your eyes weren't bad you could simply sit 5" further from the screen.

OLED today is like 1080p was in 2009; absolutely pointless for current and future uses that is imperceptible to the human eye.

>>717725501 (OP)
Response time? Refresh rates?

>>717738227
Most anons sit the wrong distance from their screen anyway.

https://carltonbale.com/home-theater/home-theater-calculator/
https://www.ecoustics.com/articles/optimal-hdtv-size-viewing-distances/

Funnily enough this is why 8k adoption stalled as people just can't see the benefits of the resolution.

>>717738323
All worse on oled than a high quality lcd. Do not be memed to death.

>>717738343
It depends what are you doing.
For FPS games you will sit closer to the screen than when you are playing something more comfy.
It's rather large difference for me, I'm using 27" 1440p.
It goes from 40cm for some FPS games to 60cm for shitposting and games played with the controller.

>>717738712
It really doesn't anon.

>>717738227
Then what's the difference? Get a smaller screen and save space and money too.

>>717725501 (OP)
>turns all your dark scenes into flickering messes
I thought these were supposed to be good with dark scenes bros?

>>717738825
It does because you focus on the smaller parts of the screen.

>>717725501 (OP)
>buy a 1.5k QD-OLED monitor
>27", 4k, 240hz
>now it has become the "normal"
>whenever I drag a window over to my old IPS I notice how shit it looks
>I will never be able to go back to anything less than OLED for my main display now

>>717731502
>same fucking static screen for hours
So like almost everything people do on PC beside gaming.

>>717738904
Except you can't buy your imaginary 24" OLED in the first place.
Not that those would be cheaper than 27" anyway.

/v/ hates oleds because they aren't affordable in romania, brazil, india and argentina.

>>717739319
I hate OLED because i had to experience numerous ones flickering on me. If you had actually used gsync and played any dark games you may have noticed it. And if i had to experience that shit on a VA panel I'd have returned that shit too. But I've had no such experiences on an IPS.

I'd like to have a 4k OLED, but at current prices I'm not willing to deal with any compromises, of which there seem to be many.

>>717739526
The only compromise is that it will eventually burn in, but you have a 3 year warranty on that so they're confident it will take at least 3 years, probably closer to 4-5 (they're not gonna risk replacing a $1k+ monitor if they can).

i've been using a pg279qm for a few years now and i like it
>1440
>240hz
>IPS
>g-sync module

>>717739736
>The only compromise is that it will eventually burn in
No there's not only that. You can't use gsync in dark scenes without seeing flickering if any frametime variances occur. Which is impossible to mitigate sometimes. Some people falsely associate it with big framerate swings when they don't need to be that large for it to be visible, it only needs to be small variances. It will indeed be more visible if the framerate takes plunges, but it's not always the root cause. The biggest shill of the technology in the PC gaming space has never addressed it as an issue. So burn in is something where people debate how long these monitors will last, but one issue that is present day one is that they can't handle dark scenes with VRR.

>>717725501 (OP)
QD OLED seems to be the best for monitor compared to regular OLED
Might snatch one at some point

>>717739526
If the 32" 4k 240Hz models were ~700€ I would buy one right now, but at 1000€ it's not worth it.

>>717725501 (OP)
none of you know what you're talking about yet pretend to be experts

>>717730568
>>717731197
I can't fucking WAIT for QuanDEL to BTFO all other technologies

>>717731502
>buy screen
>use it
>money stolen

>>717741158
Just 2 more years!

>>717725501 (OP)
i would never go back
LG CX6 for couch gaming and movies
Aorus Fo32 for desktop use

feels good

>>717725651
>third year of using an c2 for 14h daily as a pc monitor
>0 shizo burn in

>>717741492
same been using my cx exclusively hooked up to a pc, including browsing or watching streams hours on end and there's not a hint of burn in yet.
had it since 2021

>>717731502
>let it sit on the same fucking static screen for hours on end
AKA browsing 4chins on fullscreen shilling planned obsolescence oled tech.

>>717731502
>pixel cleaning
>let me highjack your monitor every 4h real quick so I can dim all pixels uniform... I mean refresh them

Fuck that noise ho,ly shit
Oled belongs on TVs (I own one) until a better alternative is found

I'm so behind on technology that I'm still using a plasma TV. What are the best TV's for being a console pleb at the moment? I'll have to upgrade eventually.