Why are fighting games currently considered more popular than ever and so extremely based for filtering out swathes of retards that are incapable of learning how to play a video game?

I don't wanna play fighting games anymore

I wanna play fighting games

>>717727241 (OP)
I'm neutral towards fighting games

>>717727407
Which ones

>>717727241 (OP)
>more popular that ever
>Fatal Flop
Why are SNKfags so delusional?

>>717727552
you do know terry and ken are in street fighter 6, right?

>>717727552
It's SF6 Terry, you retard

>>717727552
CotW is part of the based fighting game group that filters out retards.
>source?
see >>717724920

how many years til SF7? i pray they only support this one for another year or two at most, i dropped it years ago and dont ever want to touch it again

>>717727552
I'd rather have a less popular Fatal Fury over it turning into whatever monstrosity Street Fighter and Guilty Gear turned became for the sake of popularity.

>>717727685
2029 at best

>classic fighter
>use super, it hit hard, does half their health

>modern fighter
>use super, cutscene begins to play removing all control until the explosion of a dying star finishes melting my enemy to dust, does half their health

I hate this

>>717727720
i will be almost 40 by then. i guess i'm officially too old for fighting games now, its over

>>717727241 (OP)
fighting games are meant for combo videos

>>717727552
>hurr everybody is a game warring brand loyalist hat-wearing retard pledging allegiance to a company like I am
spotted the nintendork

>>717727814
nah, GO1 will still be winning at 41, you can do it too!
and there will be other fighting games released
you can also play older ones to find one you really mesh with

>>717727824
Alright, that's pretty sexy stuff

How come neither /v/ or /vm/ ever has a consistent SF6 lobby open or something? I wanna watch faggots brawl.

>>717727685
why do you think sf7 will appeal to you

>>717727552
Why did you bring up SNK? Those are two Street Fighter 6 characters

>>717727783
>does half their health
Only if you include it at the end of a 15 second long combo maybe.

>>717727552
Whenever I see SNKfags shill their game, they talk about how good and fun it is.
Whenever I see Capcomfags shill their game, they talk about playercount numbers and post alt costumes that cost as much as a character.

got capcom collection
pick my darkstalker

>>717728086
bruce lee

>>717728086
green wife

>>717728086
Sabrewulf

>>717728086

>>717727241 (OP)
>Why are fighting games currently considered more popular than ever
street fighter 6 is the only popular fighting game
even tekken has less than 10000 players

Outside of Fightcade, I've been playing KOF 02UM on a few occasions. So far, I've met two kinds of players:
1. The poor guy who's kinda lost and relies mostly on specials.
2. The vet who knows how to pressure, wins air-to-air exchanges constantly and rarely messes up when punishing.
Does anyone else experience something similar in other games?

>twnba 2D fighting game where you and the opponent upload an mp3 before the match starts and your special move properties like hitbox size, speed and range change based on the music intensity
>the closest thing in existence is Def Jam Icon
why subsist

>>717728086
Lord Rapter, of course.

>>717729092
based chad

>>717727241 (OP)
>Why are fighting games currently considered more popular than ever
is cotw really that popular considering the amount of dqs and canceled tournaments it got

>>717727695
COTW added the obligatory safe on block advancing armored move that gives a crumple, railroaded and state-based moves with too designated of a purpose to allow for player expression, braindead easy overlong combos that are the same at any point in the match, and makes the entire game based around this new meter. It's not quite as bad as SF6 or Strive, but its the same modern fighter deal as those two. Really a side by side of MOTW and COTW pretty much puts the difference between old school and new school in a nutshell.

>>717729926
>It's not quite as bad as SF6 or Strive
Strive's is not even close to being relevant, what the fuck are you on about
>Just use 50% of the single most important gauge you have that fills twice at best throughout the set bro

>>717727783
I think an understated problem with cinematic supers is that taking things away from the normal angle makes it feel less like you are attacking your opponent and more just watching somebody attack some other person; even autocombo ssuperslike the ranbus in KOF still feel immersion in a way that post-SF4 supers don't. Xrd had the the right idea by doing a cool little 3D pan during the flash then bringing it back to the normal view for the actual attack.

are you a "showa-chic" fighting game fan who talks down on other people or fail your way to the top

>>717729926
>safe on block advancing armored move that gives a crumple
You can only use it when in SPG mode which telegraphs it more and it only cause crumple on counter hit. Plus you don't get punished for blocking it.
>braindead easy overlong combos that are the same at any point in the match
Depends on what your rev gauge is at when you start a combo.
>and makes the entire game based around this new meter
The only things you do with the rev gauge is EX moves, Rev Guard, Rev Blow and Rev Accel. If you overheat it isn't a checkmate like it is in SF6 and the mechanic also doesn't cause shit like throwloops to exist.

>>717728519
I think KOF in particular is susceptible to this since the couple of tools you need to play The Real Game are kind of unintuitive and guides tend to do a bad job explaining them.
>jCDs
Dandy J's tutorial did a good job of talking about the various hops, but neglected this altogether, and noobs tend to overlook it because it's series-specific and a button combo so easy to forget, but it's essential for covering movement, and movement is the defining feature of KOF
>light chains
Every clueless would-be mentor says that KOF combos are close heavy>cmd normal>special which is only part of the picture. It's tough for newbies to find opportunities to land a proximity mid, meanwhile while learning I found it much easier to focus on chaining off of low lights and leaving clC's for hard punishes, then eventually working my way up to hopping into the big damage starters. Chains in KOF aren't really like chains in anime or any other sort of game though, the rhythm is a little different and you usually have to do 2B into a cancelable 2A and people just don't know that. Out of all the guides I've read/watched, only one of them mentioned this.

>>717729926
Rev homogenizes the gameplay, but it's nowhere near the same univers of awfully bullshit that's SF6 Drive Gauge.
Until CotW introduces a universal neutral skip button that assassinates neutral you can't compare the two.

Rev Blow sucks but it's the only mechanic in CotW that I really dislike. I do think the system mechanics do homogenise the characters to some degree, but I don't mind it too much because they're fun to use. And I'm kind of used to that being the case with KoF as well.

>>717730341
>If you overheat it isn't a checkmate
eeeeh
it's a terrible situation to be in and it lasts super long

>>717730005
I meant in terms of how the direction of the series went from earlier entries to the most recent release. Just because I began the post talking about the safe on block armored move doesn't mean that's what the entire thing was about.
>>717730341
It's still an endemic modern FG-ism and it's still there
Just about any time somebody finds a hit they're going to do the same combo with 2-3 EXs and a brake with very few exceptions, and you don't have to build meter to do it so early, mid, and late game it's the same shit
The game is only nominally similar to MOTW. MOTW was largely about building and finding opportunities to spend meter and frequently about application of brake moves, while brakes in COTW are just combo extenders/anti-air starters and the game mostly centers around looking for an opportunity to start an EX move combo.
>If you overheat it isn't a checkmate like it is in SF6 and the mechanic also doesn't cause shit like throwloops to exist.
I said COTW didn't wind up as bad, just that it is modernizing a classic series to the detriment of its quality as the other two did.

>>717730559
>Until CotW introduces a universal neutral skip button that assassinates neutral you can't compare the two.
/v/ just sees a meter and the color green and assumes the two systems are anywhere close to comparable.

>>717730559
>Until CotW introduces a universal neutral skip button that assassinates neutral you can't compare the two
lol

>>717730867
>I meant in terms of how the direction of the series went from earlier entries to the most recent release.
????????????
Did you miss the last entry straight up having a 25 meter option that froze you so you could skip neutral and defense at the same time???????? Strive is unironically saner

>>717727241 (OP)
Thats not a question you esl faggot.
Youre just making some insecure statment

>>717729926
I said in the other thread but CotW is basically every bad element of modern fighting game design crammed into one game.

>>717731194
And it was a retarded thing to say in the other thread too.

>>717730949
>Did you miss the last entry straight up having a 25 meter option that froze you so you could skip neutral and defense at the same time????????
I kinda did actually, I barely messed with Xrd and mostly just played +R when I was into anime fighters

Set play characters do not belong in non-anime or non-MK games.

>>717730263
I think the bigger problem is that nobody there is motivated to actually make a good game because, presumably, the leadership in charge of production is really bad and the guys running the company blow money instead of using it for production.

>>717730440
A big part of the problem is that hops in KoF should be the default jump option. Switch hop/jump around and you've fixed one of the big skill floor issues. Rev button in CotW hopping is kind of a halfway point but hop should just be the default at this point.

>press up to hop
>hold up to jump
Seems like a basic and easy change.

Anyone want to play some +R?

>>717731194
I don't know how you can say that when SF6 and Tekken 8 are sitting right there and putting on master classes on how to ruin your game with modern fighting game design.
Rev isn't even close.

>>717731950
Sure, I haven't touched it in at least a year so I'm extremely rusty and was never good in the first place, give me a minute to fuck around in the lab and I'd join a room

>>717727315
fpbp

>>717733378
Password is HHHHHH whenever you want to join

>>717734000
I forgot half of Dizzy's inputs are reversed from Xrd, this is going to be painful

>>717727685
Whatever you dislike about SF6 will be multiplied by 10 in SF7.
You think SF6 is fucking hideous? You think it's casual and hyper aggressive as shit? You haven't seen anything.

>>717728734
I mean... mugen exists? I could see some autist making a fork and adding online to it, and having it load the other person's character. It would take 170 years though because they'd get bullied into doing rollback code before anything.

>>717730862
It's a disadvantage, but not an overwhelming one.

>>717735101
>>717728734
Okay scratch that. Googled it out of curiosity, and I guess it's dead. Everyone migrated to offshoots like IkemenGo

>>717735174
I don't think you're much better off than getting burned out in SF6 honestly. Depending on the character you can lose access to most of your damage, pressure and mixups entirely. Then there's the fact that you can't air block, so approaching the opponent is riskier. Your defensive options are much more limited too and you eventually get guard broken. All this for a pretty long time. It's pretty rough to win from that situation.

Combos should not exceed single digits.

In your experience, are fighting game enthusiasts actually decent people? I very rarely hear people say they're just okay, either they're all lovely people or total irredeemable assholes.

>>717735871
Back when I played fighting games offline, before online was even a real option, I played with a group of... about 15 people or so?
2 of them were assholes sometimes but still otherwise tolerable. That's a pretty good percentage of decent people I think.

>>717735871
People who are into hobbies like this are more likely to be socially awkward or straight up autistic, but other than that it's just like any other area of life. Good people and assholes, just depends. My local scene is very cool and nice, the worst we get is a few nerds who seem to mistakenly think it's still cool after high school to be cynical and negative about everything. I've also seen some other scenes that were really cliquey and a lot of the people seemed really unpleasant.

SF6 is too annoying for me to play. I came back to play Sagat and I remember why I uninstalled the game.

>>717731475
But that's... how it already works. Tap to hop, hold for jump. The window to return to neutral before the hop becomes a jump might be arguably kind of short, I guess, though I don't think you could really extend the window much more since the hop and jump trajectories are different almost right from the start. Plus you'd also have to account for hyperhops and superjumps for inputs.

Hell, how about a KOF with double jumps? But each jump has hop height. That's be something to try out.

>>717734061
GGs, you're really good for you to not have played it recently.

>>717727685
Sf6 is both a total success and very well liked by Japan unlike that piece of shit you posted so uh 2031 minimum

>>717736384
Japs are retarded and have chronically shit taste.

>>717736384
SFV is better than 6 in literally every way except netcode.

>>717736331
Thanks, that was fun despite the Zappa nonsense, I should play this game more. Way more Xrd Dizzy transferred than I expected, I was pretty much entirely just doing Xrd shit and seeing if it worked.
The fish not going away on his is even more broken than I remember it being, but god I hate not having a real f.S in +r, and I tried to Ice Spike YRC constantly

>>717735871
clayton says that most of them are scumbags

>>717737271
Who?

>>717736731
nta but maaannnnnnn +R training mode hypnosis is strong in this title

>>717737318
the hunter from tarzan

>>717727902
99.8% of /v/ doesn't play fighting games, they just talk(complain) about them. Also
>Playing SF6

>>717727407
spbp

>>717738713
We could play fighting games right now, I just don't trust my internet at the moment to not get choppy, so I don't actively seek out players in the thread right now.

What causes people to t-bag n' shit when they're clowning on a random opponent that clearly hasn't learned the game/their character in full yet. Like I can understand putting the spice on when you actually beat someone, but this isn't an beating, it's a squishing.

>>717727462
I'm skipping neutral in fighting games

I'm plus on blocking games.

Play Granblue

>>717739667
>Battle designer: Pachi
Yikes

>>717739667
I play a lot of Granblue. I recommend that others don't play it.

>>717739667
ok

>>717739667
The last time I played Granpoo was before Rising came out and I remember it being Super Babby Street Fighter: Anime Edition.
Is it a good fighting game now?

>>717740384
There's more interesting things to do with your character. But, if you play too much of it you'll realize all those new mechanics were designed by morons and they want the game to be played this way.

>>717740384
They started adding EX characters with new movesets and now they are getting weird with shit. They are designed to be balanced not boss characters so they are adding 4 characters when every other fighting game is adding one.

There's like a 90% chance they turn Katalina into a puppet character next patch.

>>717728086
The Canadian.

Fightcade is a godsend and we should forever be grateful that it exists and I'm tired of pretending that we shouldn't.

>>717740945
>puppet character
Making her Identity armor stand do the big attacks after a delay? Would main Kata-Orie.

>>717740945
Blazblue unlimited characters but ranked legal?

>>717740807
>>717740945
Well at least they're adding significantly to it even if it still doesn't sound like my thing. Maybe if I can find a character similar to one of my mains from other fighters I'll give it another go one day.

>>717727783
>super fully plays ON WHIFF
were they thinking?

I'm playing mvc arcade collection and did those games always had braindead push one button to perform supermove button? My gamer brain isn't gonna allow me to ignore it.

>>717741463
nta but theyre fully alternate movesets. narmaya doesnt have stance switching, mixes normals from both stances and has entirely new specials. in exchange shes way easier to play and sacrifices mixups for better combos

>>717740945
I really hope they do EX Characters for Strive
Give me EX Nagoriyuki with permanent Blood Level 3
Give me EX Chipp with a teleport
Give me EX Ky with roundstart Dragon Install

>>717727241 (OP)
they need to make games where you can team up with your friends where you can tag them in or something.

>>717730090
Moreso than the cinematic, the problem with supers for pretty much their entire existence is that almost all of them have no utility.
For every super that provides some setplay or can be used as a neutral tool*, another 99% of them are just an invincible-on-startup small hitbox right in front of you, a lunge or a big projectile that you're only going to do in place of a DP or to close a round, and are super unsafe on block to further reinforce they have no other purpose.

*Same shit for EX moves. Slightly more EX moves have some interesting uses, but most of them are just combo extenders and invincible reversals.
Fuck meters.

>>717727685
Anon, the next SF will be far closer to 6 than 4 or 5. Move on already. Find another fighting game series, another genre, or a hobby.

>>717727241 (OP)
bro fighting games has infinite amounts if dope as fuck art and you choose to start your thread with this gay as fuck tranny fan art.
kill yourself you dumb faggot.

>>717743919
FighterZ did that and I'm pretty sure Strive has that now too.

>>717740384
No lol
Don't listen to honeydicking grubblers speaking to you

>>717740384
Yes, it's the best fighting game right now.

>>717737271
I don't watch the dude anymore but if he hates them so much why does he continue to make a youtube post about every single perceived slight against him? Just chillax and cope with whatever super cancer illness you have (I forgot what it was)

can I get one fightan game without autistic special resource management? drive bar this, purple roman that, heat this, spd that. I just want a 1v1 with supers or none.

>>717746428
Play super turbo and then lose because balrog touched you once and now you are in permanent throw loop or zangief touches you once and then it's spd into knockdown and he can just get you in proximity guard and spd or fei long or bison dizzying you from anything and 2 touching you or vega claw dive

>>717740384
don't listen to grubblue players, they shill full time. It is indeed baby anime street fighter with no reason to use special inputs and nigh-identical combo structure across almost the entire cast. If you want a fighting game minus the sauce it exists

>>717727685
SF7 could very well have forced modern inputs.

>>717736470
I wonder what kind of loser is hidden behind your screen.

>>717746428
play this bitch
she gets extra damage/defense/speed for sitting on 50/100 meter, as well as starting to do chip damage

>>717740384
Listen to Grubblers

>>717746428
Just play Virtua Fighter. No meter, no obtuse damage scaling, no supers. Everybody just beats the hell out of each other.

I miss sprite fighters. 3D is nice, but there's a smooth kinetic-ness that they haven't done in 3D compared to sprites. Doesn't help that every super is now a cinematic instead of a fast and fluid motion

>>717748290
plenty of characters still get non-cinematic supers, like unika from strive's practical super is just a big launching explosion

>>717748432
yeah but strive is basically an antichrist and needs to die

>>717748432
I get that, but it's not JUST about cinematics. It's the kinetic-ness, the fluidity of the movement. It's why I still like SNKs 3D game supers, because they don't remove from the pace of the match, even if they fall into category of "single big blast" or "10+ hit combo super"

>>717740945
>and now they are getting weird with shit
No they aren't. They still play like any old Granblue character.

>>717747260
it is still better to spend, especially with how easy it is to get it back

>>717743919
Didn't MK9 have a 4 player 2v2 tag mode?

>>717746428
Killer Instinct (dead game)
One meter for EX Specials that fills up fast by attacking so it's not a hassle to manage.
Second meter that fills up by taking damage, lets you buff yourself for a little while and extend a combo.
No other quirky resource management nor multiple system gimmicks to use those meters on. Use them for the one thing they're made for, all other mechanics are available at all times.

DNF Duel (dead game)
The only meter is your MP. MP is for doing your stronger set of specials, MP regenerates passively and recovers by attacking.
The only other thing MP is used for is to alpha counter and push the opponent away while you're blocking.
There is a Guard meter, but it's just to limit you blocking nonstop.

Virtua Fighter 5 (almost dead game)
No meters.

Virtually any other fighting game in the past 15+ years has one or more meters, gauges, resources and cooldowns that are spent on a half dozen different things.

>>717747260
Gio's dog should've been able to bite opponents and steal their metre

I reached Master Rank in SF6 and I still can't react to fucking anything, I can't reverse-DI, I can't whiff punish, I constantly fuck up my cancels. I can stay calm enough to remember frame data in the moment, and when I do my reactions are slow enough to where I can't capitalize on it. I've been playing fighting games since vanilla SF4 and I have never been able to improve past the level of skill that I feel that I am still locked into, the only reason I've reached Master is because SF6 is a casino game that floats any and all comers up the ranks so even me making it to Master feels like the equivalent of imposter syndrome.

>>717743919
SFxT did that

>>717748938
>Killer Instinct
depending on the character you use you're absolutely getting extra/unique meter fuckery to deal with

I play SF6 with modern controls and love the seethe of classic cucks

>>717749016
That's a shit female dog, the (Brazilian) white woman can't even ride on top of it.

>>717748801
True but Gio's really fucking good for people who underspend meter
I think the defense boost is underestimated too, she gets heavyweight HP at 100 Tension, while also being one of the fastest characters in the game
The chip damage is also really silly

>>717749016
As a command grab it would be stupid since her strike/throw is one of the best in the game
As a special, I don't know if it would make a lot of sense, there's a big rabbithole people haven't explored much, which is routing to build the least meter, especially on a wallbreak
Jonathan Tene made a really good video on this https://youtu.be/025K4swSKZk?t=501

That said, I wonder if Lucy is going to be able to do it, given one of her quickhacks is called "Energy Siphon"
The particles on hit are green though, which makes me think more about a HP steal effect, or it might just give her back Cyberdeck Ram which is definitely going to be her unique resource

>>717746428
Hyper Fighting. No resources but lose 95% or more of your lifebar because you threw a fireball at the wrong time

>>717750220
No I meant as a hit grab, similar to Terumi's from BBCF.

>>717750592
Terumi was entirely thought around being able to steal meter

Tacking it on Giovanna would either make her broken (eg. looping meter drain combos in the corner before getting super wallbreak on someone who's forced to have 0 tension), or it wouldn't matter because the meter drain would be negligible compared to the combo's meter build

remedial genre

>>717746428
No. (except for VF iirc)
Even Fight Night games have a stamina meter for you to manage.

>>717727685
SF7 will be F2P with no classic inputs, screencap this

>>717746428
Karnov's Revenge
World Heroes 1

>>717727783
Whenever I use or get hit by a Lvl3 in SF6, I put my controller down and stand up to get the blood flowing. Maybe have a sip of water, check my messages. It's not worth my life force to watch for the 1,000th time. It's so fucking dull. They somehow missed that Ultras being cinematic was hype because most of them are difficult to connect, whereas Lvl 3's can be confirmed off any fucking hit in this game.

>>717752997
>most of them are difficult to connect
I don't remember it being most, and the ones that were more difficult to use were never used.

That's it.
I'm gonna do it!
I'm gonna play fighting games!

now what?

>>717753903
join the 'cord to find matches and remember to follow the rules uwu

>>717739006
Fatherless behavior

>>717753443
Maybe I was just scrubby back then, but I felt like there was only a handful that were easy to connect across the cast in SF4

>>717753903
You purchase or pirate a fighting game.
Then you play the fighting game.

>>717727241 (OP)
Placed in my first tourney for 3S recently, I’m happy

I can't apply my character's gameplan during actual matches.
I can't hit confirm.
I can't do long combos.
I can't do delays.
I can't do micro walks.
I can't anti air consistently.
I can't frametrap.
I can't whiff punish.
I can't condition my opponents to do something I want.
I can't fucking read my opponents at all.
I'm so fucking trash it fucking hurts. I just wanna kill myself.

>>717727241 (OP)
I don't play fighting games but yesterday I saw a post that said "why are fighting games dying?", so who should I trust?

>>717746428
Virtua Fighter

>>717755867
Are you me?

>>717749216
Because the game is literally designed for you to rank up even having a sub 50% win rate, but when you get to masters you have to face the reality of the situation as the rank handholding ends right there.

>>717756129
There are no supers in Virtua Fighter.

>>717746428
Dead or Alive 5 LR

>Yeah I play fighting games
>Look at his library
>He's a Striver
everytime man.

>>717755867
same but I win anyways lol

>>717750154
>I play the game with training wheels

they say your main says a lot about you, as a person

>>717755418
that's too much work... can't I just complain instead?

>>717756706
What fighting games are you playing?

>>717756858
I don't play a set archetype across my fighting games. I just go with attacks, voice lines, and combos I think look cool.
Because doing cool shit is why I play.

>>717756858
What is your process for picking a main?

>>717756858
This is my main

>>717757017
big damage

>>717756286
he said "with supers or none"

>>717756879

>>717757096
She’s gonna be so cute in SF6, she’ll literally make me buy and learn that game kyaaaaaaaah

>>717757017
The cutest girl of course

>>717755867
Maybe you're playing people better than you. Find some scrubs

>>717756879
Strive 2.0

>>717757518
this
you'll never learn by playing against someone that completely stomps you, despite what some people say
gotta play someone at your level or slightly higher

>>717746428
You will lose all the same even when you don't have to manage shit.

>>717756858
In another 6-7 months I'm making the switch to Alex, but until then I'll be throwing out booms like nobody's business.

Is the Anon who said that he'd play SoulCalibur over the weekend here by any chance? Does anyone else want to play?

>>717757953
What an absolute kusoge.

>>717756875
Then don't have an opinion about fighting games besides how much the girls make your dick hard.

>>717757096
cute grandma

>>717739667
It's so fucking boring though. God, all of the current fighters are. The only interesting games lately have been the classic re-releases.

>>717739667
I tried the free version and it wasn't for me. I know Rising made it more hectic and damaging but I don't jive with the game at a fundamental level.

>>717757953
Drive rush dont cost only 1 bar

drive rush is just fadc

>>717757017
>Start fightan game
>Go to character select
>"This character looks cool."
>Go into training mode with them
>"This character seems to be an archetype that I enjoy."
>Do some matches against the AI
>"This seems like someone I don't suck absolute cocks with."

Pass those three checks, and congrats, you're now in my ever growing mains club. Unfortunately, I'm not as good at detecting who's actually good or not and I have a weird tendency to end up liking characters that are either shit, or they're OP at launch get nerfed to the dumpster not too long after I start using them, very little in between.

>>717761679
Controversial opinion on 4chan here, but I don't think that Drive is INHERENTLY toxic as a concept. The problem is the same problem that is getting forced into all of the new mainline fighting games, which is you get a full bar of meter to be a complete fucking gorilla with at round start every round. Same with Heat that is fucking up Tekken, same with Rev letting you be a complete degenerate in Fatal Fury.
If they hybridized your drive gauge and super gauge and made you have to actually earn meter it would be fine. The problem is that they would have to rebalance every single normal in the game because they made the genius idea to gate 99% of plusframes with having access to Drive Rush at all times in mind.

>>717762112
More offense is always better than more defense.

drive gauge is good
every drive mechanic is bad

>>717761891
post 30 seconds of you playing any of those characters

Is there any /v/ fightan discord ?
I have no friends and I would enjoy playing against people my level (plat-diamond)

>>717763167
Fuck no. I understand wanting a community, but its been proven time and time again 4chan and discords do not mix. Best we got are lobbies here.

>>717763167
just ask for games here no need for 'cord

this is our war
street fighter four

>>717763167
I remember joining one, but it died after I played with two out of six people in total.

>>717768169
this is our jive
street fighter five

>>717757415
now post her ingame model

>>717763167
Just play the weekend /v/ UNI and Blazblue lobbies if you want a sense of community.

Which of the modern fgs is the best option for a complete and absolute retard who never played them before?
I dont like tag fighters nor airdashers.

>>717771023
granblue

>>717771023
Samurai Shodown (2019) will teach you the basic mechanics you need in every modern fighting game.

>>717739667
I played the beta of vanilla Granblue and it was so unbelievably boring that I decided to never play any iteration of it ever again. That move sending you all the way to the wall is funny though.

>>717771023
SF6 with Modern controls.

>>717771023
Granblue Versus Rising, Street Fighter 6, Fatal Fury City of the Wolves and Tekken 8

>>717740384
Vanillafags fucking HATE Rising and they don't even consider it the same game. I've seen gameplay of it and I understand why; Rising is still not anime fighter territory but it's definitely not Street Fighter anymore.
For the record, I am comparing it to Street Fighter V and below, I've never played 6 so I can't compare it to that.

>>717768618
these are our dix
street fighter six

>>717771023
SF6, Tekken8, or Strive are the only games where you can easily play against other beginners

>>717757313
>She’s gonna be so cute in SF6
...literally why would you think this?
Ingrid is the most anime character ever put in a Street Fighter game, and anime characters rendered realistically look like shit.
They have made one (1) cute character model in SF6 so far. That's not an encouraging track record.

>>717771559
It's more like Street Fighter Alpha now (even has Alpha Counter). Most people are also turned off by new raging strike and ultimate skills as well as dash attacks.

CotW would've been better if they committed to lane switching.

>>717772165
To be fair, there was no lane switching in Mark of the Wolves either. Which is why I wish we had gotten a Real Bout sequel instead.

>>717758321
I'm playing single player but I have no idea how to actually do decently in this game, I may as well just be mashing.

sf6 is ugly, can't believe people gaslight others into believing it looks good
butchers so many characters

>>717772140
Yeah, I guess that comparison makes sense, kinda.
Ultimate skills are a good concept; EX-moves are a fairly standard thing after all. Now, getting part of your meter back for hitting raw ultimate skills? THAT is fucking stupid.

>>717772267
That doesn't mean they had to stick with it. It's just weird that they have unique animations and mechanics for this one mode that no one uses. Even weirder that it's locked to a single stage and isn't even used in single player.
Right now, CotW feels like a watered down KoF. It really needed something else to make it stand out and lane switching could've been that.

>>717772553
But Anon, the models have SO MANY polygons and they look so detailed. More details = better.
Things like Ryu's bloodshot eyes and female characters' skin having dirt, grime and pimples really bring the whole game to life.

>>717762398
I don't usually record clips of myself playing, but I did find this really fuckin old clip of me back when I was first messing around with Vanessa. Don't know why I still have it, but it's neat that it's there, even has my old horrible PSN profile name in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDrhZvOv8LU

blazbluebros, explanation?

>>717776235
HIS (carl prohibido) game
fenrich is washed unc
that hazama player in finals literaly choked few times and that was on him

>>717776612
>that hazama player in finals literaly choked few times and that was on him
Sounds like J-Anson alright

fighting game characters for this feel?

>>717778605
Anyone in Heritage for the Future other than young Joseph

>>717778605
Leroy Smith

>>717778605
Jamie

>>717772553
Looks miles better than all the tranime fighters you faget are playing.

>>717778605
JUST PICK LEROY

>>717780287
>zoomers cum buckets to this face

>>717780287
HAI NIPPON ICHI

>>717778605
>stop mashing, bro

>>717781010
fucking waifufag characters, always gotta be top tier so the gooners buy more skins

>>717739667
Granblue fucking sucks because it's a mashfest at the end of the day.
>triple normal
>special ender or brave chain/special link to repeat
>SBA if applicable or when you're bored
That's it. That's every Granblue combo ever at their most abstract. No natural links like SF or other grounded 2d games but no dopamine-giving high execution like UNI and the airdashers. I tried Belial once in the free version and one of his most advanced trials was
>Brave chain
>3x heavy
>heavy vortex fireball
>3x heavy again
>heavy ender
Strive has more depth in its routes than that game. Fucking S T R I V E.

>>717781010
>grappler just grabs me again on wake up
This is bullshit...

>>717780287
>posts literally the only character who looks good in that ugly shit game
At least you have some self awareness kek
You are still a faggot tourist and you will never fit in.

>>717781010
DOSUKOI

>>717773235
>CotW feels like a watered down KoF
No? It’s completely different and much deeper than KOF.

>>717730263
fucking hell if i was in charge i would fire people who are too embarrassed to be in the game credits, if you cant own your own project and be proud of it go away.

>>717781153
strive is on the same level as other gg games

>>717739667
Is this character actually good?
I figured having no 66L would make him miserable to play and have more than a few terrible matchups.

>>717781010
this is what getting thrown in VF feels like

>>717756879
>What fighting games are you playing?

>>717783424
He's in a strong place against most of the cast with good normals and frame data as well as insane damage, mixups and stupid strong options like 66L invalidating normal 66Ls

>>717783424
They gave him a guilty gear 6p instead that deletes projectiles. He's super fucking strong unless he's fighting a pure zoner. His moves have a really high clash priority so he just deletes anyone trying to trade with him since he also has the highest damage in the game by a massive margin.

>>717739667
Granblue's a fine enough entry point, but the more I play it, the more I hate certain parts of it mechanically. I still love it, especially for it's ease of access which got me to participate more online, but it's flaws make me wish it was designed better.

It is really funny how much people hate it though, just vitriolic hatred for a fine game that isn't even the most popular.

>>717728041
When SNKfags talk about how fun their game is, they're lying and desperate.
When capcomfags talk about their game's popularity, it's because the game can speak for itself.

>>717727241 (OP)
I like watching fighting games but I have no interest in playing them.

I was going to practice a new combo today when I suddenly had a thought that I am wasting my time and doing anything else, even playing a different game, would be better. Am I getting old?

>>717783483
CunnyBlasterZ!

>>717783828
>When capcomfags talk about their game's popularity, it's because the game can speak for itself.
kek
Sure, let's go with that.

>>717783424
Every time Arcsys puts some kind of Slayer function in their game, he can do some fucking bullshit
see also: Azrael

>>717783827
>just vitriolic hatred for a fine game that isn't even the most popular.

Strive players are literally having a meltdown about people complaining about new Jam and says anyone that thinks old Jam is better is a pedophile rapist. Retarded hatred makes perfect sense in this community.

>>717784276
*secondaries that spend their days posting on twitter
People that actually play strive are having a meltdown having to wait until the end of the month to see Potemkin get deleted from the game

>>717740945
>another wall stunlock fighting game
pass

>>717784276
I feel for older GG players. Just an entire new community of moralfags moaning about Jam when they've literally never played her, saying she's a racist stereotype and such.

That said, nu-GG really normalized the designs. It's like each characters outfit was based on a casual clothes advertisement than a fighting game. It's the retarded final fantasy belt debacle, but instead Daisuke can't not make a character look popular for the terminally online fanbase.

>>717784541
>I feel for older GG players
dont they were prime posers and they can play r+ any time they want anyway

>>717784414
really odd design decision having the visible wall on the corner. It doesn't break, so what's the point of having it visible? It's just there to tell you it's the corner, when the corner already existed.

I'm enjoying more fighting games as of late, but dear lord the objetification of women is really gross and tiring, my eyes hurt from all the eye rolling. Even the discourse can be about TnA, it's such a boys club.
Recently got into Granblue Versus ... so much cleavege, the new DLC grappler "grabs" you by putting her crotch on your face and her super positions the camera so you see her double Ds jiggle cause ... reasons. Her trailer is... ehhh

>>717784678
It's really awful. Just look at this alt costume she looks like a cheap prostitute not that prostitution is bad though her body her choice

>>717784678
This is my favorite Granblue related image
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4741513?q=parent%3A4741513

>>717784787
fat piggus

>>717784795
>the fucking kot on the stick

>>717784795
didn't read but AWOOOOOGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ARFARFARF OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH BABAYY

>>717784787
yup, fighting games are saved

>>717784787
They look fine when you can't see their goblina faces.

>>717785060
It must pay for its crimes

>>717728086
go for the 'squatch

>>717735334
mugen still works but you can tell it's a good 10 years older than the average /v/tard so a lot of people are moving over to ikemen because it can do a lot of cool shit mugen can't handle, like true 3d stages and such
i can't wait to see what the hyper dragon ball z team does with that engine because those people were already fucking wizards when it came to mugen, that 6.0 build from last week fucks crazy style

>>717728086
bat boy

name more posercore game than darkstalkers

Strivers are right. Old jam was just a random girl in a qipao. The new design has belts and random bullshit written everywhere as per gg tradition. It's way more gg and rock than she has ever been. I just don't like the earrings
Another design that always sucked is millia, from generic fitness trainer to woman in a coat

>>717786179
3S

>>717786179
Mark of the Wolves.

>>717786179
GG:XRD

Which game is the labubu of fighting games

>>717786602
Mortal Kombat

>>717786179
MVC2

>>717781695
>The tranime cuck cries in pain while trying to convince (You) that a fucking cartoon is better than a 3d character
KeK

>>717787675
Nevermind, I was wrong about the self awareness part.

>>717786179
>>717786226
Lol, this is your mind on Street Fighter Shits. Vsav and 3S are two of the greatest fighting games ever made, you morons.

>>717786179
Guilty Gear is the biggest posercore franchise
Everyone's saying XX or Xrd is the greatest fighting game ever, nobody's actually playing them

5 or 0 decide which fighting game do i play

>>717788931
Granblue Fantasy Versus...
...
...Rising

>>717788931
Project Justice

>>717788931
Under Night In-Birth 2 Sys Celes

>>717788931
Them’s fighting herds.

>>717788931
DNF Duel

>>717788931
Es Laf ++

>>717788931
Samurai Shodown II

>>717788931
Masters of Teras Kasi

>>717788931
Arcana Heart 3 Sixstars Extend

>>717788931
demon slayer 2

>>717788931
xrd

>>717788931
virtua fighter 5 revo world stage

>>717788931
Vampire Savior

>>717788931
shitty of the wolves

>>717788931
blazblue

>>717727902
ever since SF6s release I have only been able to get two shit talking faggots on here to match, funny enough both time they were platinum game. the second guy was so fucking shit and in the end hit me with the “well I dont even play this game anway” lol.
ask anyone here to show their accounts, they wont.

>>717788931
SNK Heroines Tag Team Frenzy

>>717788931
KoF XV

>>717789632
>>717789567
guess im not fucking playing anything today
>>717788982

>>717789895
just play SF6 you dumb ass. its the best fighter ever by a large margin.

>>717789895
5 confirms you're not playing shit

>>717788931
Koihime Enbu Ryo Rai Rai

>>717727902
The usual answer to that is "w-well, it is SO popular that you don't need lobbies! t-that's for dead games..." but maybe in truth people just don't want to play it?

>>717788931
Street Fighter 6

>>717789895
Mega unfortunate that not a single one was 0 or 5, they all got so close

>>717789895
>5
kek
You posted a Dragon Ball gif so go play some DBFZ I guess.

>>717790090
>>717789895
>5,0 posts are about not playing
kino

>>717789895
Kasumi Rebirth

>>717788931
Street Fighter The Movie The Game

>>717788931
Survival Arts

>>717788931
gundam battle assault 2

>>717788931
Vsav

>>717791040
>>717791080
both good choices

>>717788931
Ultra Fight Da Kyanta 2

>>717788731
I play +R all the time

>>717791353
Host.

im playing KOFXV
I will never get gud

>>717792110
It's not about getting gud
It's about having fun!

>>717757953
Guile have a touch of death combo against Akuma from midscreen. Don't know if season 3 changed that.

Just saw a clip of DNF Duel and man that game got done dirty. What the fuck was even the problem with it?

>>717793763
everything is +999999999 on block

>>717793763
Launch was super broken and they didnt do anything for 6 months.

What's your biggest contrarian opinion?

Mine is that Kenji is actually fucking awesome and I sincerely wish that he could've been the Capcom ninja that appears in all the crossovers and not Strider.

>>717793763
No idea, i still play it sometimes with my frens, at my place during weekends

>>717794357
Holy...

>>717791698
I looked away, I can host now if you want

>>717794357
>spoiler

I wish I had that. It would be perfect

I lost 60 times today ask me anything

>>717794867
against the same person?

>>717794867
What game? Have you learned anything?

>>717794867
ITS LIKE I GIVE PEOPLE WINS DUU

I like SF6.

>>717793763
It fucking sucks ass dude. It feels worse than literally anything else to play made before or after it released due to it's brainseadness and combination of shitty ideas so everyone from all playerbases hated that shit. Only good thing it did was warn me that modern 8ing is completely not worth a damn and that 2xko isn't either with a game designer for it being a dnf duel/xrd tranny.

>>717795038
nah like 5 people. Lost 60 games in total

>>717795041
+R. I'd have to look at my replays to learn cuz I definitely don't know what I did wrong during the matches. I'll have to take a look at Baiken's chain attack

>>717795073
idk what you are on about

>>717794867
It happens, I lost to someone 70 times once
He quit after 1 loss

>>717793763
Really bad balance on Day 1 (and up to like Month 8).
Defensive mechanics were extremely limited, costly and risky versus overwhelming pressure. It was very unfun.
Nexon abandoned the game before it even launched, booted nearly all the devs, they had to bring back people to fix it and make a character DLC posthumously. Too little too late. It might have had some legs if it released in its current state and improved from there.

i lost 100 times today i mog you

Losing 10 times in a row is my limit

>unironically losing

>>717795764
>ironically losing

>ironically winning

Only losers win.

>Marvel Tokon has simple inputs
>2XKO has simple inputs
>Invincible VS has simple inputs
I think getting rid of execution in fighting games is a fucking retarded idea, it's giving me the same uneasy feeling when aim assist started to become prevalent in FPS games

>>717780287
You got anymore of this classic Mai outfit?

>>717796229
I think so too but I'm aware that ship has sailed.
I am OK with simple inputs when they have a damage penalty, or some other kind of detriment but we are very, very clearly headed towards fighting games designed for simple inputs first and foremost, which fucking sucks because that means they will design the characters and the moves themselves with that in mind, fucking up the balance.

>>717796229
Simple Inputs and them being games designed for the "modern audience" is lame but I'm more upset about
>tag fighter
>tag fighter
>tag fighter
I guess I can't complain too much since I got a good 1v1 game in CotW this year, but unless Virtua Fighter comes out in 2026, it's looking like that year is going to have nothing for me.

All anime games are just party mashers where you can be randomed out by any flojo

should I look at my replays

hop on power stone

>>717797116
>watching you losing
Beta mentality

>>717797116
It can be frustrating and embarrassing to see yourself fall for obvious shit, dropping combos or whatever but it can also be insightful, yeah.
Personally I only look at my replays when I truly do not understand how my opponent beat me.

>>717797231
>mind IMMEDIATELY went to losing matches
Found the beta

>>717797307
It was me (alpha male) sensing from your beta male aura that you wanted to look at the losing matches

>>717797382
Sure thing loser.

>>717796229
Seeing that the KI devs are working on some shit looking tag fighter for a fotm show instead of KI2 killed me inside.
I really just want KI2 (or would it be KI4?).

>>717796845
>we are very, very clearly headed towards fighting games designed for simple inputs first and foremost
I want this to happen so people can finally see clear as day that inputs were never the primary reason for fighting games' severe lack of player retention.

>>717796229
I think they're targeting the wrong thing to simplify.
Motion inputs are not the "execution" they should be doing away with; It's the link-based combos.
The shit I see newbies struggle with more than anything execution-wise is trying to get combos to work if there are any links that don't have a massively generous window. They are constantly dropping them because they're always pressing far too early, then they mash in frustration which often skips over the window.

>>717798040
Games with gatlings/beats/what-have-you have existed for eons though. Since Darkstalkers.

>>717798040
Bold of you to assume that they can even get combos started half the time. In the matches that I've played against scrubs, you can really tell that a lot of them just sat in training mode practicing combos and not how to actually move, open up a live target or hit confirm.

>>717797964
I don't know m8, an admittedly big "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO" moment is not worth entire games being designed with a shit philosophy.

>>717798382
I'm not talking about the scrubs who have 100 hours in Training doing that one optimal corner combo but are still Gold rank because they don't block.
I mean the brand new players in Bronze who ironically will eventually learn more fundamental neutral play because they jump right into fights, but they're just landing single hits, maybe following up with whatever may smoothly cancel from it. They won't ever get down how to do the most basic links like Ryu Heavy Punch into crouching Medium Punch simply because "2MP doesn't come out even though I pressed the button."
For first impressions to a -newbie- It comes off as very unintuitive and has the same negative "it ate my inputs" feedback that a lot of people claim happens when the opponent does Drive Rush.

the biggest reason I stopped using stick is because I can play more comfortably on my bed with a pad

>>717797714
According to Max, around 2019-20 Microsoft did actually try to get a sequel to KI '13 off the ground but it was dropped when they couldn't find anyone to do it. Iron Galaxy were either unavailable or unwilling, so they went around pitching it to various developers, including Bandai Namco bizarrely, but no one was game to pick it up.

buy cotw or do I finally learn +r/bbcf?

>>717799384
why not do both?

>>717799384
yes

>>717799384
CotW is on sale right now and you can get the other two dirt cheap most of the time, so now would be the time to learn all 3.

>>717799384
I'm wondering if I should get COTW as well but I plan on playing strive and sf6 again soon
I don't think I can juggle 4 fighting games

My brain keeps reading CotW as "Circle of the Wolves"

>>717796562
A lot more, but it's something for another thread (good night!)

Why does air throwing people make them rage quit?

>>717799675
>I don't think I can juggle 4 fighting games
You can do it anon, playing multiple fighting games really isn't as hard as some make it out to be.

>>717800653
How?

>>717800981
Not that guy but wouldn't -some- of your KoF skills transfer to CotW and vice versa?
Strive would be the outlier here; I have not played SF6 so I don't know how much of what you do there helps you play other games but in the end it would still be like... playing 3.5 games instead of 4
Manageable.

>>717800981
simply just play them
But if you want more specifics, it helps if you just stick to one fighter a day. Like play a little SF6 today, a little Strive tommorrow, a little KOFXV the day after then CotW before repeating. You're not going to forget how to play a fighter if you haven't played it for a couple of days and the downtime before picking one up again will allow your brain to kind of reset so that you don't end up having a situation where you play KOFXV then CotW immediately after and then try to activate Max Mode in CotW because muscle memory is still lingering.

That's what I do anyways.

How important is "having something else to do" in fighting games for you? Lets assume the ranked mode is perfect and there's enough characters. Would you want some kind of side mode? Or are you content with matches letting you grind towards something, even if it's as boring as more titles for your ID card nobody looks at? Is just "number go up" in terms of "matches played with character" enough for you?

>>717800981
Game compilations are my best friend

>>717727241 (OP)
i unironically can't play fighting games because of how addicting they are
i'd need to be retired to comfortably enjoy one
once i start playing, the only thing i think about is improving
very dangerous

>>717802186
>How important is "having something else to do" in fighting games for you?
Very. It's one of the benefits of fighting games going from arcades to consoles/PC.

>>717800178
What thread? Don't do this to me.

>>717802186
I personally don't give a shit about that. I play a fighting game for the fighting, if I wanted to play a beat em up or whatever other side mode I'd just play a game from that genre. They're nice distractions, but it would be like caring a lot about whether or not a JRPG has a fishing mini-game, if I wanted it that bad I'd just play a fishing game.

>>717802186
As far as pure gameplay, I literally don't need anything more than Online/Ranked mode and a Training mode. However, Granblue has character levels that allow you to unlock trophies, title cards, alt colors, weapons and shit like that and I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy those things quite a bit.

>>717802186
Depends on what you mean by that.
>Fighting game that has all the fixings like a proper training mode, combo trials, arcade mode, survival, time attack, etc.
Yeah, I think all fighting games need this.

>Fighting game that spends half of the budget on some big ass campaign mode that plays nothing like the actual fighting game
Fuck off with this, but I know this is going to become the norm now which upsets me. I'd rather have the devs put those resources into making more characters, stages, costumes, etc.

>>717727241 (OP)
no one gives a FUCK about fighting games.

and no. /v/ threads with cammy and chun li r34 do not count as discussion threads,

>>717803936
I do.

>>717803964
What a coincidence, I do too.

>>717803890
>some big ass campaign mode that plays nothing like the actual fighting game
What games do this? Most of them just give you a big story mode with lots of cutscenes but you do end up fighting lots of 1v1 fights in between. Grubble has the "beat-em-up" mode but even there it's mostly a VN and the major fights are 1v1.

>>717805287
Dix has a pseudo Shemue mode that I'm like 90% sure is what Anon is referencing. Apparently it has stages where you fight roombas, or 3 opponents at once or some shit like that.
It is also likely part of the reason the actual game gets 4 characters per season pass.

just bought plus R as my first guilty gear game
what characters are the easiest to start with?
also some beginner advice?

>>717805451
Oh yeah that shit is pretty gay. IIRC it adds like 40gb to the install too, and keeps growing with more characters. It was a fun little distraction but not if its eating into character DLC and making SF6 a 100gb game.

https://rumble.com/v6xf3qs-come-watch-me-destroy-this-duuu-live-dale-restream.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_a
Come watch dale lose

>>717805543
Anji, Jam, Faust, Kliff, Ky and Justice are probably the easiest characters.
you should play whoever will motivate you to keep playing though, depending on how much other experience you have with older and/or anime games it is going to be a bit rough no matter who you pick, starting on an "easy" character you aren't even that invested in just makes it feel worse when you can't get something down because they're supposed to be easy.
https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGACR/Getting_Started

Every fighting game should feature at least one character (preferably more) wearing a thong leotard.