What killed online interraction?
Private chat apps and people using public chats being subhuman.
>>717737135 (OP)i muted auto-muted everyone back then. The only thing that changed is that i no longer have to do that since no one speaks either way
>>717737135 (OP)Content that doesn't require communication and coordination. Besides high end stuff where people hang out in private chats.
>>717737135 (OP)>can't even say knight now without a fucking censor in 99% of gamesWhy would I interact with anyone when there's a chance I could be banned for some vague shit I said in party or guild chat that some retard took offense to?
>>717737135 (OP)Power tripping draconian moderation plus the emergence of external VOIP services.
no camaraderie because any interaction becomes content for hit tweet or youtube compilation and you either get cancelled or your account reported, also lots of underage normalfags who jumped to the game thanks to some e-celeb and wants you to treat it like it was some daycare. Also let's not forget the power tripping moderation which is hard to measure what causes a ban because it's always some powertripping trannyfur with unbalanced hormones misjudging you
>>717737135 (OP)Threadly reminder: if you're the kind of person that will dehumanize others that are actively doing an activity with you, and call them "like bots" just because they're not actively chatting with you, then that's a good sign you're also the kind of person that nobody WANTS to talk to.
>>717737135 (OP)Zoomers that are incapable of communicating and looking to report anyone they can if they step out of line
>>717737135 (OP)Demoralization post
Never be afraid to be the first person to speak. Worst case scenario, you give a bit of a human element to the people you're playing with.
Maybe other people were just too nervous to speak up at first. Nowadays everyone's really anxious about making themselves stand out, but you can give them the courage they need.
>>717737135 (OP)Chilling effect from metoo
I'm NOT kidding
>>717737135 (OP)Why has no one made a follow up where she gets savagely gangbanged by her next group she randomly ques into at the end of the raid? What a total fucking waste of potential.
>>717737135 (OP)Faggots like the wannabe woman in your image. Not being allowed to call them a faggot for acting like a faggot because they'd cry to their mother and hecking report you for hurting it's retarded feelings.
>>717737372>--Your message contains a offensive word!--Trying to say some simple shit only to get cucked by the wordfilter and having to otherwise speak using only complete babby-tier words makes it a fucking chore trying to communicate.
I'm not doing it.
And I'm not listening to it either.
Shove it up your ass.
>We have received reports of you using offensive language and your account has been chat-muted for 7 days.
>>717737135 (OP)>you can't talk>people stop to talkwho could have seen it coming ?
>>717737135 (OP)The report button.
People will report for anything nowadays and the ban bot will do its work, I would rather stay silent and play the game than talk and risk getting banned.
It's not even about saying the nigger or faggot word, some retard could die 10 times and you would write "great" and he'll report you because his feeling was hurt.
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?leftism and all that comes with it
>>717739604I go on long rants in the area chat of WoW and I've never been banned, is this an FFXIV thing?
>>717737135 (OP)if i wanted to interact with other people i would interact with the people in my clan's teamspeak/mumble/discord/whatever not the rando mouthbreather who likely can't even play his fucking class
>>717739719good for you, no one will care enough to even try to gauge the retarded mod and bot, and you get OP pic
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?rightards and all that comes with it
>>717737135 (OP)matchmaking and party finders did
you don't need to meet people and add them to a contact list anymore, just get in the queue and your party fills up automatically. after you get in the dungeon it's just a matter of efficiency, typing takes time and time spend typing is time spent not clearing the dungeon which is time spent not being in the queue for the next one
>>717737135 (OP)mmos started catering to anti social solo players for some reason. every aspect in modern mmos is designed in such way that you dont have to interact with anyone
>>717739912I don't get it
>>717737135 (OP)normalcattle and advertisers invading the internet in 2007
your average fellow player wasn't a nerd with a passion for the game's IP anymore, it was a normie who just wants to blogpost about his family or job or some other dumbfuck activity. and as a normie his attention is fleeting, one day he might quit the game because the wind changed direction or some shit
>>717737135 (OP)Well you see, I play video games to decompress and get away from your pissing contests. Once pvp stopped being mandatory, wow got better.
>>717737135 (OP)The gamers wanting social interaction play VR. Mostly VRChat, VR shooters, and VR racing simulations.
>>717740124>maze+ becomes mandatory insteadhaha...
>>717737135 (OP)DRG you'd get pretty soulless lobbies like this.
games like SCP, gmod, barotrauama, arma, you get way more interesting player interactions.
kinda sucks for introvert fags. you guys have no idea how fun online vidya is when you talk to people.
>>717739846unironically this, by allowing people to avoid talking, we stopped teaching people HOW to talk
i recently played a load of classic wow, and until i hit 50 i literally didn't say a word in chat, despite tanking dungeons from 20-50
just mark targets with skulls and moons. ijust queue into the groupfinder as a solo tank, get an instant invite to whatever you queued for.
meanwhile, playing on a private wow server without groupfinder, im talking the shit with EVERY party, because you kind of have to talk to form groups, and the changed content means people need to ask questions, or tell you they need a ssecond to rebuff, or just kill some time while the healer pees.
shit dude, retail is so bad that you can queue for a dungeon, load in, set yourself to follow the healer and AFK, and no-one will say a thing.
>>717739740you were this person at one time, and might still be
>>717739740those guys will disappear one day and you are gonna shit your pants when you realize you have to make new friends over time and get out of your comfort zone.
>>717740319your projection means nothing to me, friendless, clanless loser.
>then
>say word
>server has good laugh, back to playing
>now
>say word
>money stolen
>doxxed
>fired from work
>swatted
>get shot in prison
>>717740417i've been playing with this group and talking with them nearly every day since 2010, even playing other games with them
>just two more weeks and you'll be a friendless loser like me sis
>>717740431yup, you are that guy 200%, you can still change your ways lel
>>717737135 (OP)>why doesnt anyone wanna be my friend???Tranny thread
>>717737135 (OP)No matter what you say you'll piss someone off and then it'll somehow get politcal
>>717740518>i've been playing with this group and talking with them nearly every day since 2010, even playing other games with themand i still kick it with my roommates from college 10 years later. wedding and everything.
anon. please go outside and make friends.
you do not make meaningful relationships with people on discord servers playing video games.
>>717737135 (OP)Moderation.
Unironically being unable to say nigger has really hampered online interaction.
Nowadays talking in an online game is like tippingtoeing around a minefield hoping you dont say the wrong word to someone.
>>717739502>and having to otherwise speak using only complete babby-tier words makes it a fucking chore trying to communicate.bro wants to talk about pdfs and how Jeffrey Epstein didn't commit sewer slide in the new Battlefield game where you unalive the enemy team
>>717740692>internet friends aren't real friends>you can't be friends with people unless you go have lunch or dinner together or go to the movies or some other vapid normalfag activityshut the fuck up boomer
matchmaking
moderation
discord
normies and third worlders on the internet
>>717737135 (OP)everyone is too obsessed with loot and dailies. o time to chat with others. but what is the point of multiplayer games if you only play for some reward and not fun
>thread is full of anons giving unhinged answers and saying that they can't hold any conversation without saying something that could possibly get them banned
>"wtf why does nobody want to talk to me"
I wouldn't want to talk to a /v/ anon either.
>>717739224Of course not, you're just stupid for thinking that
>>717740809People don't express the same vocal range across a microphone as they do in real life, you can't smell them, touch them or look them in the eye over the internet. You're not getting the full experience
>>717740904I might be stupid, but at least I'm not dumb.
>i can't say bad words so i won't say anything at all :(
kindergardener tantrum-like behavior.
if you are an unironic socially challenged retard who cannot adapt yourself to different social settings you should not wear your 4chan mask as your main mask
it's literally that easy.
>>717740809kek. i've struck a chord eh? im gonna give you a redpill man.
discord circlejerks are an inherent safespace. i get it, no judgements, lots of moderation too, maybe your a fat fuck? or some very unhygenic guy with hippie hair? discord masks all that. thats why i think people need to go the fuck outside and not talk to internet strangers for 15 years.
>>717740943>smell them, touch themyeah i can tell you're a professional at this friendship business, freak
xbox party chat creating cliques and nowadays everyone is afraid to forge new connections because we became highly individualistic, views, tastes, personality, back then people were simpler and easier to approach.
>>717740998i bet you smell like shit and are like 250lbs. i have no idea why you are so offended at the truth
>>717740809Didn't boomer have pen pals?
>>717740820How are you this bad at reading words on a screen?
>>717740980>moderationyou think this is a public child grooming server or some shit, friendless faggot? this is a private server we use just for the free voice chat service, randoms don't come in, we don't need janitors
>>717740980NTA but it's "you're" and genuinely, whenever someone makes an easy mistake like this, you just appear to be an idiot whose post isn't worth anything.
For your own sake, learn to use the correct "your". It's very easy and people will stop ignoring everything you say if you fix this. It matters more than you think.
>>717741027Damn you really like projection
>>717741097>diverts to grammar nazi argumentsi accept your concession. KEK
>>717740820I too think it's a strange answer, like, way to out yourself.
These thread always come up with the same set of answers to this same question, by now i could write an exhaustive list which i won't do.
My favorite answer is the content answer. People will interact with one another if the game requires it, our internet world today is extremely social, people talk like crazy, way more than back then.
The answer i've experienced the most is the one where people are just busy running daily tasks or doing their evening routine and they have other shit to do than talking with anybody.
>>717740980this post has triggered people huh
>>717741029those are a minority and they're not considered normies either. most boomers are obsessed with seeing and smelling and touching everyone they interact with, which is why you can't have a fucking voice chat call at your job with people older than you without the retard activating their camera. and then their shitty connection lags them the fuck out and they just close the call instead of disabling the video feed. an entire generation of fucking retards.
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>>717741164Also, "NTA" means "not that anon", in other words, I am a different person. The person you were talking to is most likely this guy, who posted within 30 seconds of me and therefore can't be me.
I'm starting to think my words aren't getting through and I should give up. I'mma do that.
>>717737135 (OP)Sometimes I don't feel like talking, other times I do.
Don't try to force an interaction.
>>717741078>friendless faggotthere you go again. can you please try to respond with an actual argument? quit trying to move goalposts. im not talking about moderation, im talking about your little internet circlejerk and how you should go outside for once. like
>>717740943 has said. but you shitpost out of insecurity for some reason.
>>717739502No MMORPG fo that last one.
>>717741318nah im just really stoned and didnt see NTA.
mb homie you know we are bros.
>>717737135 (OP)Dogs barking and babies as background noise
>>717741327i choose to call you pathetic over quoting yourself in third person because there's no way there's a second idiot here who thinks you can only be friends with people you touch and smell
>>717741164Your line of thinking is of no consequence to anybody else. I come in, i see you, i call your shoes ugly. I'm not doing your argument. Not interested in constructing a discussion with you just go kill yourself. Goodbye and good riddance.
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>>717741357Alright then, we cool.
>>717741357>dudeweedlmaoer giving people speeches about true friendship
>join mythic clearing wow guild
>every raid goes off without any issues
>open guild chat
>entire days without a word being posted
This is success according to the modern gaming climate.
>>717740820You got shitpost answers but really outside of HAHA FUNNY I SAID NIGGER it's really still interesting to see the first reason that came to their minds is they aren't allowed to say nigger.
>>717741527>people only clock in to do their job, then clock off>they cease to exist outside the clockjob-tier environment
>>717737135 (OP)I genuinely and unironically pity the fucking retards who weren't in their teens while internet and MMOs were a novelty.
>>717739846>talk to people>they dont reply cause they're in a discord with 50 other people
>>717741616this is agreeing with me though
you don't need to expand your contact list if you have an entire discord on hand
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>>717740820>I wouldn't want to talk to a /v/ anon either.
>>717740820/v/ is merely pretending to be extremely unhinged
The truth is that the average /v/ poster is only heavily unhinged.
iho
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people get their social interaction from other online spaces such as discord/twitter/posts on reddit/etc so when people play games (with randoms) it's almost purely because they just want to play and nothing else
Besides that, there's also the ease of finding information by yourself now. Global/region/guild chat in older mmo's used to be an almost constant scroll of questions relating to the game, but now everyone knows how to easily obtain that information themselves through wiki's or youtube guides.
>>717738710>seething so hard he starts talking like a twitter tard
Why is the argument against online socializing always that you can't touch, feel, smell, or taste your partner?
>>717741921because /v/'s current (You) harvesting meta is ragebaiting and i'm sure most of us have heard their boomer parents say something among those lines at some point
>>717741534How are you this bad at reading words on a screen?
>>717740943NTA but nigga we are adults and have other shit to do
all of my friends have known each other for almost 15 years from when we went to school together
we don't all live in the same place anymore and primarily communicate via text and voice, meeting up for a meal once in a while
i don't see any reason to believe anon's online friends are going to stop talking to each other just because
>>717737135 (OP)this comic is about tree of savior
tree of savior had shitty interactions because all the servers were a mangle of people who couldn't talk to eachother in the same language
also the game was shit
other than that, there's nothing wrong with social interactions
you can still get them easily as long as you aren't a 20+ year old SPERG
hell, children make best friends over random public pvp minecraft servers and roblox still to this day
>>717741813The granularisation of communities via the internet (either internet communities or real life ones due to the existence of the internet) has been a disaster for the human race
>>717741964It's the literal truth, interacting with people IRL is a much richer experience than chatting over the internet. Listen to your fucking parents.
>>717737135 (OP)Special snowflakes offended by absolutely everything.
>>717742090CITY sighted
AotS
>>717737135 (OP)dunno it's a mystery and so on it but it definitely couldn't be the devs literally deleting chat and replacing it with emojis because *people* on reddit got pissy over something someone said or whatever
>>717742113so what should be done? work on getting IRL friends and then, if you do, abandon your online ones like some kind of sociopath?
>>717739740People like you tend to be the biggest shitters..
As they say the smallest dog barks the loudest.
>>717741471yes. say what you want about weedbros but they are the best friends you will meet.
>>717742090>a mangle of people who couldn't talk to eachother in the same languageso the anons who said it was third worlders invading the internet were right
>>717742207...and other copes you tell yourself to avoid personal responsibility.
>>717737135 (OP)Retard chat filters
Dungeon finders
Report happy culture
>>717740943>>717742113>smell them, touch them or look them in the eye This is a lot of words and posts to say the anon saying it was normalcattle invading the internet was right.
>>717742201You'll be so amazed at the bonds you form with your IRL buddies that you'll forget about your computer all together, next thing you know you're waking up with two bitches in your bed.
>>717742297I love how saying common sense things on /v/ is like speaking an alien language
>>717742201when you get RL friends you'll realize your online "friends" aren't friends at all so you won't feel bad about moving on.
remember: your friends group only has 4 people in it because the game(s) you are playing requires you to have 4 people.
>>717737135 (OP)I think it's multi-faceted.
On one hand it's the popular argument of
>say word, money stolenWhere people became hypersensitive and will report even the slightest affront and automated bots issue temporary or even permanent bans like there's no tomorrow.
As a result, not using chat is the safest option and thus stifled interaction.
On the other hand, it's just as much the fault of
>"""quality of life""" changessuch as group finders that does the work for you, drawing in an ever larger mainstream audience to the genre that are not actually interested in being part of an online community.
Mainstream normalfags hate the "tedium" associated with social interactions in older MMOs. So the interactivity in the genre is drowned out by a larger crowd that isn't interested in socializing.
>>717742438if /v/ had common sense they wouldn't be on /v/
most of these people are autists and telling them to look people is the equivalent of showing a vampire a cross
forced matchmaking with strangers in competitive multiplayer games
>>717742480>for whatever fucking reason20+ years of sunk cost subscriptions + xpacs + collected MOUNTSMOGSPETSCHEEVOS will do that to you
>>717742512Who are you and why do you spend so much time on a board you hate?
>>717739502>Trying to say some simple shit only to get cucked by the wordfilter and having to otherwise speak using only complete babby-tier words makes it a fucking chore trying to communicate.but enough about 4chan
>>717740240Classic WoW doesn't interest me, but the idea of a private server where you have to interact with other players to do shit does. What private server is this?
>>717742523i've made many friends from league
the trick is to be good at video games
>>717742586i am a good samaritan who saw another thread about autists crying that nobody wants to talk to them and i came here to deliver some harsh truths instead of letting another autist safespace continue unchecked.
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?Duty finder, quick play and matchmaking. Why would I interact with a random person I get queued with that I'll probably never ever see again.
>>717737135 (OP)Social Media in 2007
*leaves thread*
>>717742676Spend a lot of your time sperging out in threads you don't like do you
>>717742480>And instead of just banning these aimbots, the developers started "catering" to this demographicAnon was just probably making a wild metaphor with the FPS genre but this actually became the norm all across the genre.
>>717742687>shorthand for familysenpai
>soรญlentonions
>to be honestdesu
>gb2rpost blocked entirely
REALLY make you think doesn't it
>>717742462>you'll realize your online "friends" aren't friends at all so you won't feel bad about moving on.i think it's pretty psychotic behavior to just dump people you might have spent hundreds of hours talking to and playing games with
>>717742752have consoletards ever refuted this webm or do we just post this in the hopes that they do?
>>717742787who cares what an autistic freak thinks
>>717742787It is normal to abandon your crackhead addict "friends" when you decide to improve your life and stop consuming crack.
>>717742830if consoletards were capable of thought they wouldn't be playing FPS games on consoles in the first place
>>717742847>>717742852i really don't know why you expect anybody to follow this advice
>>717742886i'm not expecting anything, addicts only quit when they are forced to.
>>717742886there's a lot you don't know you autistic incel.
>>717742752I noticed already when Blizzard tried their hands at a FPS where the majority of classes/heroes did not require any aiming whatsoever to do well with.
>>717742946are you actually on the video games board of 4chan trying to get people to quit playing video games lol
and with promises of social interaction? you're trying to lure flies with vinegar
>>717742113>Listen to your fucking parents.I do and jerk off to it. What's your point?
>>717743068one day you will realize the errors of your ways and by then it will be too late
>>717739740this except its people i know irl because im shy
>>717738710This. The people who complain about this shit are always extremely obnoxious yanks who will just come into the lobby and starting screaming at the top of their lungs and then get angry when no one wants to chat. Like yeah if you come across like a schizo retard I'm not talking to you.
>>717737135 (OP)Things work in different order. You used to play games to find people, now you socialize first and then play together.
Most importantly, you want to find someone who plays just like you, so a tryhard if you're a tryhard, or a fellow comfyfag, or whatever, because different kinds of players can no longer get along on the same server, it just doesn't worn and it's not worth trying to make it work.
>>717737135 (OP)Matchmaking, and especially the kind that's so obsessed with muh sbmm that it re-shuffles players between every match.
On community servers you have actual regulars and different servers have different feels and "cultures". Even matchmaking games used to keep people in the same lobby, so you could banter and get to know some dude while playing with and against him for hours at times, I'm sure lots of people have found fun people this way.
But now? Game over sweatie, gotta bring in new players because your mmr went up by +27 points. So much less of a point talking to people you'll likely never see again. Only constants are people you party with, and then it's easy to end up using out of game chatting options.
>>717737135 (OP)the last time I saw unmoderated online interaction was the first two or three months in Mordhau. It was really fun but if you checked any discussion it was all about muh toxicity.
>>717742113>Listen to your fucking parents.Yes. Listen to the generation who grew up in a world that ceased to exist before you were even born. Listen to the generation that still struggles to use a phone. Listen to the generation who went outside and hanged out in public parks before every public space got turned into a parking lot. Listen to the generation that monetized existing outside your house. Listen to the generation who was brainwashed and fearmongered into not letting hang out because the idiot box (aka a TV) they consume so much. Listen to the generation who then justified all the fearmongering by letting infinity third-worlders into your country.
They know better.
>>717737135 (OP)what an annoying party member, just shut up and do your job
>>717740820Yeah getting banned for speech in any online game I've played means that you've had to be a complete raging cunt to achieve it. Game bans aren't just handed out casually and if you log-in just to abuse people then it's good you got banned. Fuck out my games.
>>717737135 (OP)Moderation. It's not worth it to say anything to anyone in game when you can risk your years long account with all the investment in the world just to say someone is doing bad DPS or have a heated gamer moment.
MMOs used to be used like chatrooms to socialize in but now everyone does their online socialization on social media and in discord.
>>717743473>Boo-hoo look how bad my life is!Shitlennials... when will they learn?
>>717741534I mean that word should be free for everyone to use and restricting it to just one race has been a complete fucking disaster. I do generally agree though.
It's because modern games and the people who play them are too obsessed with farming the feel good chemicals.
In old Maplestory, the grind was so slow that you would not mind spending some time just chatting, and the game also had plenty of mechanics that incentivized you to do so, like having to spend real time just sitting around in an airship to move between places or having to wait for some sections in party quests.
Now everything is made so line goes up nonstop, you need to do all your dailies and weeklies, party quests are all focused on killing things and bosses with barely any pause, etc. You have no reason to chat and stopping to do so is a significant loss in progression so nobody does it anymore.
>>717737135 (OP)Time and matchmaking. Why be friendly with people when the game will dump you with three new randoms every 15 minutes. Don't even need to bring up server lists or have to deal with rowdies, just hop on in and dip back out. Unless you have friends anyway, but even then I'd say that's still too controlled now compared to how things used to be.
>>717743435I've never played Mordhau but interestingly the last similarly free interaction I saw was with ForHonor.
Perhaps there is some overlap in said communities?
>>717743473If your generation is so much better then why is everything constantly getting worse as you grow up?
>>717743723because the previous generation is the real cancer and they're the ones holding power in a vicegrip, milking everything they can before they pass on
retard?
>>717742113>Listen to your fucking parents.
>>717741097Based standards enforcement anon.
If you fuck up any of these as a native speaker you should not be taken seriously ever:
>There/their/they're>your/you're>could have becoming could of and its variants>loose instead of lose (this one should carry the death penalty for native speakers, it conclusively proves that you've never read a book cover to cover and you aren't intelligent enough to contribute to society beyond some simple labouring.)
>>717737135 (OP)Hue hue hue br be gib money plz
>>717737975>2018-12 Yes, this seems like a very reliable source.
>>717737135 (OP)Match making. People actually talk in groups you have to find and make yourself.
>>717743473My parents did give me some great advice on how to succeed as a young man in the 1980's. Only problem is it's 30 years out of date and they basically withdrew from wider society when they had kids.
>>717743790How long are you gonna carry that victim complex? Once we're all retired or in the grave you'll be running the show, everything will keep getting worse until one day you're just like me, ranting at some young retard on the internet.
>>717743837Be a better kid and next time maintain the supposed 'superior' status quo of old. Also please ignore the fact that economy and overall world situation was deteriorating since 70s
>>717737975Hostile reminder that currently only 56% of india has internet access.
>>717743676I didn't play For Honor likewise but I'd assume there are some similarities. Mordhau got ruined by the sweats insisting on their clowning even though the idea of the game was to get away from Chivs crap.
>>717737135 (OP)Matchmaking and chat police
>>717743995>you'll be running the showwe'll be lucky if sharia law isn't implemented by then thanks to you sellout boomers
>>717737176Fpbp. WoW cross realm had you reading short stories in Monkey languages and these nigger cretins actually thought people wanted to join their macaco guilds and were always terrible players who said weird shit
>>717743964i had to switch jobs not too long ago and my mother kept calling me lazy because it took me more than a month to find a second one, and kept telling me to "simply walk into their building, ask to see the boss, give him a firm handshake and ask for a job"
real helpful coming from a stay at home mother who hasn't worked a day in her life, something completely unheard of in my generation
are there actually any good games that basically force social interaction? when the squid game ripoff came out and it had proximity chat everyone was screaming nigger and bing chilling and it was super funny
>>717743997>spoilerFunny you should mention the economy in the 70s.
I wonder if people arguing that it's the same prices but just "inflated" have taken into account the stagnant average of wages.
>>717743903That's year-month retard-kun
>>717744076Boomers are the ones agains this shit, your generation is welcoming them with open arms. You're not exactly the status quo of your generation
Advertisers and normies wanted to get rid of the "toxicity" and they succeed
Simple as
>>717744479Holy shit the delusions you entertain.
>>717737135 (OP)My humor is heavily 4chan-coded so every time I talk to someone on an MMO they think I'm a weirdo soon after. So I've learned to just keep my mouth shut.
>>717744293are we pretending that the 70s stagflation didn't happen
>>717742598its private, not to be gatekeepy, but if you don't know it, i kinda don't want you in it.
turtle got fucked over by letting in too many of the wrong people, aeon got fucked over by being too open, valanoir is mostly hues now, ascension is full of people who just want to play singleplayer.
if you just want to play close to classic wow, with people who talk, then go turtle wow, they added extra quests so people have to chat since a lot of the info isn't fully wiki'd, but be aware that you can and will be forced to see ERP in almost every tavern, because it turns out that when you get a load of people willing to chat, they chat about too fucking much out in the open.
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?It's not new and exciting anymore unc.
You don't walk around and try to talk to random people on the street do you? So why would you in an online game?
It's like trying to start a conversation in a movie theatre.
>You dude you enjoying the movie WOOAAHHH THIS PART IS SO COOLPeople will just find you pedantic and annoying and wish you would leave without saying it.
>millenials get into the gaming development scene
>games become shit
>"this is the fault of the boomers and zoomers"
>>717744704>you can and will be forced to see ERP in almost every taverni have never seen this happen
>>717744479At times I wonder if you people get paid to pretend to do charity life lessons on an imageboard. Someone who spends their time chanting borderline delusional gospel in /v/ of all places certainly is no guru of friendship, so I can only draw blanks as of what's your purpose. The whole idea of "real friendship" is non-existent even for the older generation adults, but you wouldn't know that I suppose. True ride-or-die friendships are one in a hundred, regardless of what originated it, be it online or in person.
>>717744810Just so we understand each other
If you're in your 20s
You're a Zoomer
At the absolute latest, at 29, you were born in 1996 and are in gen z
>>717737135 (OP)Serious answer: megaservers, lfg tools, matchmaking. You don't play with a small community where you get to know everyone at some point, you play with unknown people for a 20minutes time span and never see them again, what's the point of socializing then?
>>717744810Late boomers and GenX made all the classics and a shit ton of shovelware
>millenials and zoomersHave nothing to show for, despite being in work force for years
>>717744550In my country we have a tiny group of anti-immigrant boomers gathering together every couple of months to rally. No more than 4-5 people talking while thousands of young people take a day off school to protest it. This tiny group of boomers need a massive barrier of riot police to ward off against the rabid crowd of screaming zoomers. I'm only telling it like it is.
>>717744974you forgot a critical modern reason for remaining silent
>say 'gg'>banned for 2 weeks
>>717745015cool story bro
please give us more details about where it happened and how this isn't an extremely specific scenario that isn't an exception
>>717737135 (OP)Overpolicies and the opposite of fun being rewarded
>>717745379There's even a documentary about it called Democrazy
>>717737135 (OP)I don't know how to socialize with others. Every interaction I have in my job is already stressful enough, so when I game I don't want to talk to others.
>>717744952stop making up new definitions. zoomer is someone under 20
>>717745015interesting, very nice.
but now who programmed the algorithm for social media that brainwashed all these children with leftist slop again?
>>717737135 (OP)the skin color of the people online now
>>717745086>developer for a game I used to play releases a really fucking retarded patch that fucks up tons of shit for no reason for the majority of the playerbase>never post on their forums outside of maybe bug reports sometimes>this shit pissed me off so much so I actually posted something else for the first time>say that they must just be dumb if they think that this is the best way of implementing this change>get a month long forum ban over calling people dumb>stopped playing the game afterwardsAnd people wonder why no one ever says anything.
>>717744974For me I think its that and game speed.
You play FF11 and attacking + resting after fights takes ages, giving you beyond plenty of time to type. You play FF14 and you are far too busy constantly spamming AOEs in dungeons every second and moving off orange circles in trials.
>>717737135 (OP)they have been updated in such a way to that damages these aspects
>buying/sellingautomated
>bossessingle player focused or
if not that then then autofinders
>game knowledge and strategysimplified and much more info is given to you may have pointers and shit telling you exactly where and how to do stuff
>travelingincrease in teleports to move faster to more locations
>difficultygenerally more forgiving, less penalties for failing
all of these used to be different
>>717737135 (OP)All the people who want to socialize left to play hang out games like VR Chat and Roblox. Follow them
>>717737135 (OP)I can give you lot a clear answer but you won't listen. So have this video instead. Maybe you people are smart enough to figure it out:
https://youtu.be/lkaPEfq0cfM
>>717737135 (OP)People have interactions online, we just don't want to interact with dogshit players.
You aren't being interacted with because you are not only an incredibly obnoxious low to no functioning aspie, but also, fucking DOGSHIT at the game.
>>717745721i'm too old to get groomed though
I have a nice voice and personality so nothing really killed it. I go on a game, I talk, people talk back. It's THAT simple.
>>717740964you're not adapting to different social settings, you're adapting to jews, corporations and leftists who push for this shit despite not even playing the game
custom servers had custom social settings, this is pure corpocuckoldry and you're defending it, the only child here is you, and very often abused it seems
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?Incels
Most gamers are nazi incel virgins
But as soon as a girl joins the guild they will simp and would kill themselves if she told them to
>>717745916just don't say nigger. it's that easy.
>>717745721>want to socializeno, the people you were socializing with were ones who didn't actively seek out to socialize yet did so anyway
>Muh matchmaking and similar shit
Hey, nothing stops you or anyone else from playing old mmos where such things are non-existent
>>717746112they're all shit though
>>717746081I got a 7 day vacation for telling someone to love himself.
>>717742149There's a list of players interactions to be reviewed on the janny's side with a window open awaiting input regarding potential ban ( ban player: Y/N? ), he was leaning on the side to get some hot pocket from the fridge and used his keyboard as support not to fall, long pressing the Y button in the process.
>NoOOoOoOoO it's just LE BAN WAVEno such thing. Why wouldn't they continuously ban people instead, doing it in giant batches makes no sense.
>>717746081>say 'knight'>get banned because it contains 'nig' despite knight being normal wordI'll say whatever the fuck I want, you're free to not read it or you can continue to cry that nobody is talking to you in videogames it's that easy
>>717738710But you're not human. A simple script could replace you.
>>717737135 (OP)moderators
there is nothing wrong with children flinging slurs at me
>>717746309>game has an automatic word filter>type in "assassinate that guy">chat says "buttbuttinate that guy"
>>717742149David Cage deserved that ban.
>>717743846All those are piss easy I say and I'm not a native speaker. What I struggle with are possessive S or S indicating plurality. Because everyone else is also doing it at random I also cannot get a clear direction and I'm TOO LAZY to go forth and check on school books.
>>717745561Sure some, maybe even most of the blame is on the prior generation for creating an environment where this sort of behavior gets to manifest. But if there's some truth to what that anon said about the zoomer generation waking up from their brainwashing thanks to the diversity of digital media then we should see some result of that. Instead we seem to experience the opposite of that, young people appear to be more uniform and trend-following than ever before. Everyone is afraid to speak their mind without putting on a layer of irony, everyone needs to have an Iphone and a PS5, spend most of their waking hours browsing social media and linking each other funny instagram videos or else you're socially excluded. Never mind having even an slightly controversial opinion, that's basically death.
>>717737135 (OP)If I say anything online I'll get banned so I don't buy multiplayer games anymore
>>717746445belonging rituals have always existed and failures were always excluded for refusing/failing to participate. it is no different than you getting bullied for not being good at sports
>>717746563Yes, that's what I wrote.
>>717746393Reminds me of that guy named Nasser playing TW Warhammer and the ass getting censored in his name makes it much worse
>>717746438>possessives to indicate pluralityIt's that student's handbag.
It's the teachers' monthly meeting.
This is the child's ball.
This is the children's ball.
>>717746560Seeing the contrasts between the way it was back when I was young and what young people go through today is quite different, kids are getting burnt out and exhausted now because so much is expected of them. I had a lot more leeway to fuck around and be a kid, say stupid shit, make mistakes. I didn't have to worry about it being recorded and have it sent around the school and be ridiculed for months. I didn't have to converse with 20 people on a phone 24/7, I don't envy you at all.
>>717747020this, being under constant survelliance really takes the child out of childhood
Genuinely
Not having irl friends is damaging to your soul. Look at covid zoomers and how parasocial they've become due to being locked inside for 2 years.
Online friends aren't real friends.
>>717746874Fine I'll screenshot this
>>717747324I don't have online friends. Only 4chan retards and bots I call names. How bleak is it?
>>717747406You can join the millennials and start collection funko pops.
>>717747315It takes the grownup out of adulthood too, surveillance is just generally awful.
>>717744241Yeah I don't know any girl my age who has been able to be a stay at home mom. The only way would be some kind of concubine/sugar daddy situation. Meanwhile my mum didn't have to work for most of her life and when she did, it was just secretarial work which she literally couldn't fail at with no consequences for anything whatsoever.
>>717737135 (OP)I can't stand normiespeak and having to tip toe around conversations with mentally ill people on the other side.
>>717744479Ehh. Bleeding heart retards exist on all parts of the age-spectrum.
>>717746438Also remember that plurals ending in 's' should always have an apostrophe at the end. I honestly think most natives don't know this one based on my experience but it's good to remember if you want to be educated.
>It's Myles' birthday today>The treesโ leaves fell in autumn.>The playersโ uniforms were muddy after the game.
>>717742149If someone annoys me and there is even a slight chance he might get a ban if I report him, I do it. Don't like how I play? At least I am able to play lmao
>>717748393>t. got banned for being toxicKEK
>>717737135 (OP)Why do /v/troons cry about how nobody talks in online games but never tries talking to people in online games?
Rulers know any social cohesion will lead to resistance.
Any groups must be destroyed.
Any communication must be disrupted.
>>717748423small price to pay for calling someone a nigger
>>717748485why?
best case scenario, they don't talk back
worst case scenario, you get kicked for being a chatty faggot
>>717748639Because I have experienced years of /v/troons crying that nobody talks in games ever but turns out they don't talk because they are insecure trannies like you.
>>717737135 (OP)Playing mmos solo is a massive red flag and an ick. You just know that furfag is an insufferable cunt and is friendless for a REASON
>>717737135 (OP)Troons, redditors, and snowflakes.
>>717737135 (OP)there's no point socializing with people who I will never, ever be matched with ever again
>>717737975even excluding the racism here, the sheer numbers mean the odds are virtually nil that you'll ever run into a random dungeon teammate a second time
no one expects you to make friends with people who you sit next to on the airplane for *the exact same reason*
>>717748728Why do /v/troons post like this?
>>717748728>solo>doing a dungeon with 4 people
>>717737135 (OP)>retards leaving voice on and hearing every fucking thing in background>some incel complaing that jews and multi color races are reason they can't get out of their mum's basement and their tendie diet.>weed bro>annoying faggot whose balls haven't dropped>woke fucktard who wants to report to jannies over any remark>neo nazi rejects>person over compensating by getting sweaty over gameYea no shit I'm not talking to randies.
>>717737135 (OP)Asking random party members unsolicited personal questions like where are you from is an actual microaggression, like wtf have some manners dude
>>717737975A shit ton of those numbers for China, India, and third worlds is coming from mobile users on phones. Turn off crossplay and you'll be safe. Said big countries also tend to box off their population so they aren't hitting your servers in waves unless it is a shit game to begin with.
>>717737135 (OP)average mmo player is a brainless monkey
you have to prove you are a human before i entertain the idea of talking to you
>>717741169>people talk like crazyWhere?
>>717748297I'm sure your mother is very proud of you.
>>717740240Private is miles different from public.
Game chat/online NEVER taught people to chat unless you were in what would be considered a draconian chat room/voice server by 4C standards. Your private wow server is just extension of this.
If anything online talking made people worse because it let people think they could say any shit they wanted and go on rants because nobody was in person to smack their shit in or intimidate them with how pathetic they were. This is why guilds in wow felt like breath of fresh air because leaders could filter the glue lickers out.
>>717737135 (OP)unironically discord
i went back to wow to try a new expantion a few years back shadowlands - worst decision of my life so far and unironically it was like op pic
What's with people and trying to force friendships everywhere instead of just playing the game.
Happens on recurrent threads too, I've added people from here and after some time they unpromptedly start to vent about their lives or how depressed they are.
I don't remember people being this parasocial before, what happened with leaving your life behind once you are on the computer?
>>717749545Life and computer used to be separate, being at the computer IS life now there's no separation.
>>717737135 (OP)Modern life, where people dont get to have as much free time as they would like.
>>717749229in his head, he's a schizo discord tranny
what he means with people talk like crazy is
people in his little clique circlejirk for hours everyday while """gaming"""
>>717749545>What's with people and trying to force friendships everywhereSocial crisis.
>>717749602I fucking hate it, the worst part is how people get mad like hell when you politely point this out.
>>717745732Didn't come itt for the feels
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>>717737135 (OP)draconic chat moderation has to be one of the reasons for sure
>>717744810Anon who do you think owns the means of production and wants to see numbers go up? Most part those leashes are still controlled by Boomers. X is only now starting to get in more as Boomers die and some Y. However people at those levels have fully accepted number goes up and will break shit/optimize for capitalism over fun.
It is why the indie scene is exploding with games that are fun first and break even to trend setter first. Meanwhile top developers like capcom, sega, nintendo, etc struggle to even release small team shit that doesn't heed to big numbers formula like mega man, sonic mania, f-zero.
>>717745732No wtf does this have to do with it?
>>717737135 (OP)>Hi guys>Fucking kill yourself >Nigger nigger nigger>Mexican with parents fighting in the background>12yo with a broken mic>Dude that burps on micYeah no thanks, I'll play with my friends
>>717750232can't even handle a little banter. what a woman (male)
>>717750232Which server? Sounds comfy
>>717749947>>717750029I swear /v/'s IQ must be in the 60
>>717750675Explain or I'm assuming your trolling.
>>717750718This is unreal you don't see the parallel, is everything on /v/ a bot struggling with human emotions and so ending up fishing for data to give them the much needed context empty husk AI need to visualize anything? I'm not going through the humiliation of laying it down neatly for a string of code made by kikes I'm done with being baited into doing the bidding of some soulless machine. FUCK you. And fuck your maker.
discord has actively isolated vodya interactions online and it's a scourge where everything is done through discord.
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?the stupid EULA that they make me agree to that says they can ban me forever from the game for some words. Better to not speak at all.
>Youtube removed the /v/ CGSO match
>>717747903Sure but consider the fact that boomers actually remember a time before every country were infested with immigrants, zooms born after that have no idea what that was like and why they should return to it.
>>717737135 (OP)no in game chat and no server browser, you always play with random people instead of people you see every day on the server
>>717751192No fucking wa... Wait actually that's to be expected from kiketube. Got any secondary links? It's too popular not to be saved by at least one person.
>>717751056Okay so you are just baiting, got it. Here's your (You) bro if you are so starved for it kek
>>717737135 (OP)>people who played MMOs before WOW exploded in popularityInteraction starved shutins who wants to roleplay.
>people who played MMOs after WOW exploded in popularityInteraction starved shutins who want the internet to be like real life. This leads to two results
>Incredible anxiousnessPeople view it like actual social interactions or online dating and seize up fast.
>Failure to RPExactly as its said.
Really though, this primarily only effects WOW and FFXIV. Probably Runescape too, I wouldn't know, I'm not poor.
>>717748857It's not about playing with the same person, it's about the chance of bring unlucky enough to have to play with subhuman.
>>717737135 (OP)I play to have some me-time, not to socialize
>then don't play online gamesSome games that I like are online only unfortunately, its not my fault there aren't more single player games that interest me
>>717751602This should be a bannable offense, maybe even illegal.
>>717751321Blatant bait but it's pissing me off. Because there's a possible singular asshole not catching up on it. It's about genuineness, insecurity and the like.
Junior's in a position of leader for show, his sense of pride and importance is exacerbated by his humiliating position so he has to tough up through every interactions he has in every episode no matter how small to save appearance: he's hurting himself and loved ones in the process, same chemistry is at play with people online playing an act to defend an internet persona that ain't worth shit in the end.
Junior is always mean and stingy toward Anthony, it became a daily routine. His only way of expressing himself. Same thing was seen in many online players before the great shut down through censorship and bans. Not that I'm saying it was justified but the atmosphere wasn't much better near the end. It's born from the fear of ridicule, the anxiety that rises when confronted to a group and preventing you from loosening to a more palatable level of conversation for others.
The video works for this thread because it illustrates how that fear of letting yourself be vulnerable and genuine make people clamp and retreat in a burrow, even the animal documentary with the prairie dog, prey animals going underground at the first side of danger, is on point.
I mean, everything is crystal clear what do you need an explanation for unless you're clinically retarded or one of those AI indians can't stop bragging about but fail to identify human รฉmotions? This is making me mad. MAD
>>717751602if you play mmos eg wow as a single player game you are autistic
>muh collection>muh exploring the world and lore>muh taking in the environmentstop giving whatever corporation subscription money and either play private servers or even better stop wasting your precious time on meaningless games and play something better
>>717737975Scariest graph you'll ever see
>>717737135 (OP)Don't play with bots and you'll have tons more fun
>>717751826>Junior's in a position of leader for show, his sense of pride and importance is exacerbated by his humiliating position so he has to tough up through every interactions he has in every episode no matter how small to save appearance: he's hurting himself and loved ones in the processAnd how the hell am I supposed to know this from just a three minute clip? Not everyone has watched the show man
>It's born from the fear of ridicule, the anxiety that rises when confronted to a group and preventing you from loosening to a more palatable level of conversation for othersSee? You could have just said this and not sperg out about it
>The video works for this threadNot really when you need to have background information about the show's characters. I watched it and it was just two guys talking about some bullshit
>>717744952As a 96'er, I feel exactly half akin to millennials and half to zoomers. It's a weird kind of feel
>>717752340If you haven't watchated the Sopranos you are excused as long as you sit your ass and watch it now because it's one of the greatest piece of TV television recorded in the history of television.
>>717744241I had to walk my mom through that "just go meet the boss" thing. She kept telling me to deliver the company my resume. I showed her how impossible it is to get through robots and secretaries and callbacks to speak to anyone today, snd she started getting it just a little bit.
Yes I am a schizoid
Yes I play multiplayer games
No I donโt want to play with you and humor lonely failed normalfag freaks
>>717737135 (OP)Kek, everyone put her on ignore immediately. I would too if someone in my dungeon group said that shit.
>>717750232Average TF2 voicechat experience. Well, if you add in the occasional micspammer.
>>717737135 (OP)I think a big reason for this I don't usually see people bring up is the fact MMOs are so grindy. When you're doing the same dungeon over and over, dozens of times a day, several days a week, you're going to start to tune out.
If MMOs made dungeons more of a big investment, like harder fights, longer runs but with a higher chance of rewards so you didnt have to run them as much, people wouldnt go zombie mode
>>717737135 (OP)When I play a multiplayer game it's usually after a 8-10 hour shift of my job which is usually extremely stressful and hard work. When I log on I want to just relax, turn my brain off and not worry about having to play some stupid social game or having to tard wrangle whoever the fake manic pixie girl #194584234762 that in my party.
I find these people to not only be annoying but they actively drag down the whole experience because it's patently obvious that they are using the game as a replacement for socialization rather than actually having a real life and job. It does not have that they will intentionally be both loud and obnoxious to make it that harder to ignore them.
And while I would like to say this is only a female thing in the past 6-8 years I've seen a rise of men doing this to which is even more cringe and annoying. These people should unironically go outside and touch grass rather than forcing random strangers on the internet to cater to their autistic and selfish desires of friendships because they're too mentally ill or lazy to just go the fuck outside.
I literally had to stop playing Foxhole because these exact kind of retards were non-stop spamming the global chat 24/7. I'd ask if they have any self-awareness at all but most of them don't and genuinely think they're being funny, just as the comic in the OP implies. You people are miserable to be around.
>playing OSRS
>shitposting in the zezima friendchat
>some guy is saying god isn't real
>reply to him "are you retarded?"
>automatically banned for 10 days for typing le r-slur
wow lol
>>717752757This is true, it's hard to remain enthusiastic about something you've been doing for 20 years.
>>717737135 (OP)>play a team based game>teammates won't listen or respond>I'm just increasing my chances of getting suspended by the draconian and easily abusable report system
>>717752841You should have said "you're so redundant" instead
>>717737135 (OP)>browns>spiritually browns>autist spergs (you)>normal normalfags that aren't insane leaving because of the above>stinky failed normiefags, browns and autist spergs (you) are the only that remain>being unable to tell off browns and normieniggers without risking a ban>external chat programs where you can pick and chose whom to interact with without the dangers of getting bannedWoW was at its best Vanilla to BC and it was 100% because well adjusted people were the majority playing it.
>>717743514Counterpoint: nigger
>>717753034Playing competitive team-based games with randoms is a surefire way to become miserable, you're better off banned.
>>717741757I think people ITT are just kinda taking refuge in audacity. They construct a world view where it doesn't even make sense to try, and by not having to try they get to protect their ego. Many of them probably fell behind in terms of ability to socialize a long time ago, so catching up could be a painful experience of getting clowned on.
Especially if you suspect that the chatroom's gonna be a bucket of crabs like this site where you fuck up once and immediately get sniped by people treasuring evidence to reinforce their own world view.
>>717737135 (OP)I choose to interpret these two lines as some sort of bandeau so when I see this thread every fucking week I jack off to the cute skimpily dressed catgirl and close the retarded bait thread
>>717753771Thanks for your valuable input
>>717740692you don't belong here
>>717753719Wait, you're ITT. Does that mean you're projecting?
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>Join dungeon
>Healer immediately hits us with a faggy chat bind
>Is always accompanied by :3 or <3
>Can't call them a faggot
>Can't tell them to shut up
>Can't even ask "please be quiet"
>Because it's "harassment"
>if they cry enough you could get banned
>Just mute them and continue
Gee I fucking wonder why noone talks to the wannabe cheerleader/mascot that won't shut up.
>>717737135 (OP)Why do you fags cry about the lack of interaction but never talk to people?
>>717737135 (OP)In a matchmaking system every player starts with negative investment in the outcome, because they didn't choose or contribute to the outcome.
Making the act of specifically choosing a server or party composition mandatory creates an environment where positive investment is 100% included.
Matchmaking systems don't respect your time, fun or investment, and since the company monetizing the game typically wants full control over all 3 that's fine with them.
They would much rather have investment be informed by habit-forming behaviors and sunk costs, rather than personal choice, because personal choice may lead to you playing a different game or even modding their game into a competing product.
>>717754890that is harassment though
>>717754968You need reasons to talk to people in MMOs, that's what interaction is for.
>>717737135 (OP)>Talk >Money stolenThat's pretty much the reason, this isn't a problem in TF2 at least and it shows, people talk all the time and you can still make friends while playing it, as long as you don't play in retarded servers at least.
>>717756587I want to make a game and put the actual backbone that the shit you hear and see from online interactions is on you, not the game. Idk when the big push for companies to shoulder the burden of what people seeing/hearing is their fault if its by someone else, but its been a big proponent in sapping fun out.
>try to teach raids in D2
>shitty mics everywhere
>(smoke detector beep)
>people with no mics expecting a carry
>"I just started the game last week and I want to try this endgame activity"
>one guy yapping away constantly
>that one scrub with no discernible skill dragging the entire team down
>(smoke detector beep)
>"Huh? Sorry, was watching Tik-Tok"
>after a team wipe: "So... any questions?" (silence)
I just want to teach a raid, man.
>>717737316The only correct answer in this thread.
>>717756853The thing you want is not what they crave, but to invade and destroy all that is good and just in this world.
>>717737135 (OP)I want to fuck that imaginary girl until she is saciated of human interaction
>>717754243I report you! Huehue hue hue
>>717737975>ESLs now learn from other ESLscrazy
>>717748297back when i was still enslaved in the moba mines, valve reworked the reputation system in dota 2 and i started reporting everyone in every match
then i received notifications that action was taken against these random people and i was rewarded with more reports to dish out, continuing the cycle
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>>717737135 (OP)Everyone is too "mature" and jaded to unironically engage in honest conversation or have fun, because it would be deemed as cringe.
>OMG did you use some emoticon? Are you some kind of leftist???The future of multiplayer was not more human interactions, but rather PvP rage queues and MMO skinner boxes that are only multiplayer to show off skins.
Discord without question killed this shit.
every clan guild etc.. gives you a ducking discord link when first joining now. Everyone stands in place and talks on discord in towns and shit. This killed the mmo genre.
Honestly only a few places
>Shout out to ul' dah in balmung
still have the level of chaos and dick head shit that old mmos used to have.
>>717737975Then
>Make spelling/grammar mistake, assume it was just fast typing or not paying attention>Someone says something stupid, assuming they're just trolling>Creative thread pops up with interesting info, hits bump limit in half an hourNow
>Someone writes perfect English sentence and some retarded thirdie calls them an ESL>Someone says something stupid, they actually mean it because they have an uninformed world view and argue it to death>Twitter screencap thread repeating opinion of some literal who hits bump limit in 30m
>>717757516The report system is funny but Iโm pretty sure it ends up putting you in a shadow queue
That said I will never stop reporting Turks and Russians who go 5/18, because they report the entire lobby every game for no reason
>>717737135 (OP)Has anyone made art of this faggot getting gangbanged?
>>717757993I look like this but I donโt say this.
>>717748639>you get kicked for being a chatty faggotI think you mean reported and banned from playing the game for 7 business days.
>>717748639>>717758196That chatty fag shit is a symptom of mods being losers OR you being an autistic fuck. Either way someone's gay
>>717737135 (OP)Pussy children crying to Karen mom's who then complain to companies.
>>717737135 (OP)Guys in catgirl avatars that wont shut up.
>>717737135 (OP)Trannies and third worlders. I don't want to interact with them ever.
>>717740820Zoomie, calling people faggots was completely normal and expected behavior 20 years ago. Banter didn't get your money stolen. You just grew up in a sissified and draconian social media bubble. 4chan is not some unhinged crazy shitposting website, its just how unfiltered people talk
>>717737135 (OP)Gaming used to be White men only.
>>717737135 (OP)there should be a follow up comic from the other 4 members point of view where they're all in a discord call having a great time until this weirdo rp sperg shows up
It's the downtime, and the continuity. Everything's optimized to give you nonstop action. It used to be that games had rough edges. You'd have to manually find groups to do dungeons. You had to walk or hitch a ride to where people were getting shot.
You'd wait 15 seconds to respawn, during which you might say something. But here's the crazy part, they'd be people who didn't just forcibly vanish once the round ended, so you would be subjected to simple tit for tat in social interactions. If you'd be a raging autist in the chat, eventually people would learn to avoid interacting with you. Rub elbows with the same people enough times and you eventually find friends that will last you years.
But anyway that ain't profitable so we just don't do it anymore.
>>717737135 (OP)The death of forums
>>717757986>>717757538This is revisionist cope.
It was WoW basically killing any interesting social dynamic in an MMO after being too successful for its own good, as well as the discovery of PvP monetization splitting funding away from coop or PvE.
There is literally fuck all reason for a bean counter to fund a genuinely social or unique experience when the proven industry successes are basically isolated skinner boxes. Hell, you see gacha games basically take the MMO format, make it singleplayer, and had it work better than most MMOs.
tl;dr: success is the worst teacher
>>717743917Matchmaking itself isn't inherently a problem, it's that modern matchmaking systems are often designed to 'increase engagement' and part of that is throwing every player back to the menu at the end of every match so the matchmaking system can better manipulate a user's experience with the game. Back in the day matchmade lobbies didn't end with each match, any players who didn't manually exit the lobby would be kept together and the matchmaker dropped players in to fill any gaps. It was entirely possible (and not super uncommon) for people to spend hours playing with and talking to the same group of matchmade strangers.
>>717738249Anything will turn unfun when you make it a job instead of a hobby
>What killed online interraction?
Matchmaking and discord
>>717737975What the fuck happened to 2008-2017?
The gradual shift from those who genuinely enjoy the game being in the majority to those who either just want to stand around jerking it to a hypersexualized dress up doll or optimize the fun out of playing. Before those two subsections of communities would mostly keep to themselves, now theyโre fucking everywhere.
The blackpill is that WoW always sucked ass at a design level and that PSO1 was the objectively better multiplayer RPG.
>>717740820nth post best post
>>717760343ironically gacha have very social and active communities, the interactions just take place out-of-game
>>717746214Bustin Jieber?
>>717760706even before discord there was steam voice chat, and party chat on consoles.
when people started being able to hang out with their friends even while playing online games, the public chat channels dried up FAST
>>717761191>even before discord there was steam voice chat, and party chat on consoles.which nobody fucking used because
1. the audio quality was dogshit
2. they didn't have forum features
>able to easily make friends online circa 2008-2010
>haven't made a single online friend since turning 18
I'm 31 now. Something must have happened aside from getting older.
>>717737135 (OP)A cute...
Where can I find genki peopls to play vidya with...
>>717761036>PSO is now effectively dead>after getting mugged and raped by Monster Hunter>which is now also petering out thanks to Wilds' shameful display and people waking up to the fact the grindslop formula is akin to digital wageslaveryHaha
>>717737975Anyone else notice the massive uptick of cheaters in recent years? Like it always existed but when you have three layers of anti cheat for BF6 and EA claims they've already banned 300k accounts ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE FUCKING BETA you know it's actually fucking over.
>>717737135 (OP)Iron grip TOS that will nuke your account and game license if you get reported
>inb4 just don't say niggerI got an account warning from SNOY replying to someone who sent me mail first whining after a match. I called them a crybaby then got hit with that when I logged back in. I've had my PSN since 2009.
>>717761285Yeah, neuroticism.
And, of course, living in the online age where our digital footprint can never be erased.
>>717761372>petering outMore like anyone who still likes the series has retreated to the older games.
ANYONE know where I can like... idk, find people to play vidya with
I checked out /soc/, but even the gaming thread feels sexually charged.
>>717761109Gacha games tend to go for premises that filter out most of the drama starved chimpanzees, leaving you with deeply unserious people, as the internet should be.
It basically filters out professional yappers like Asmongold because it's anime and they're slaves to Blizzslop. It also filters out toddlers on Twitter complaining about sex appeal.
Literally the secret to creating a good community is just have a cute anime girl. Easy. I just wish the games were good.
>>717738710You could be replaced easily, you soulless automaton.
>>717761267>which nobody fucking used becausei used that shit every day. you think me and my friends were gonna gonna pay for a fuckin vent server?
>>717761372Don't remind me Monster Hunter Wilds exists man :(
>>717761372MH died with World and all of it's 'QOL' bullshit.
>inb4 best selling game in capcom history excuse
>>717761571>It also filters out toddlers on Twitter complaining about sex appeal.As long as the game has a unified vision, yeah. I nooticed that all-girls and all-guys games tend to have far better communities than omnipandering ones (even if it tried to correct course later like ZZZ) where niggerfaggots will fight each other like apes whenever [thing they don't like] is added
Still better than the average MMO community sadly
>>717737135 (OP)The way you played online games back in the day was full screen, with nothing running in parallel because alt tabbing was slow as sin and second monitors were not a thing. This resulted in secondary entertainment coming from interacting within the game instead of having a video/stream on a second monitor, or having a third party messenger application open.
>>717756853Never teach the free raids. It always fucking sucks.
>>717761571The Girls' Frontline community is the only one I can stomach seeing outside of 4chan. Them shitting on anti0gun fags by flooding them with pictures of their Raifu always put a smile on my face
>>717761647>i used that shit every dayyou are an outlier
>you think me and my friends were gonna gonna pay for a fuckin vent server?what was stopping you from using skype, msn, aim, free ts/mumble servers, etc etc
>>717737135 (OP)Games with faster and more engaging gameplay, speaking with other people online is no longer a novelty, socialization happens on other platforms (Discord) rather than on the game itself.
>>717762080skype was dogshit, and why would i wanna be in some public free server and talk with random assholes instead of my friends
aim is like 2 generations older than real time voip calls being feasible. it was already boomer shit when i was in high school.
msn... never even heard it had a messenger or a voice call app
>>717737135 (OP)companies being liable for online interactions now.
>>717761430>since 2009LMAOOOOOOO OLD ASS NIGGA AHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>717762290still other options like xfire or oovoo.
>why would i wanna be in some public free server and talk with random assholes instead of my friendsthere were lots of servers that offered free private channels or you could rent a server for a short time
>>717762408Don't forget you're here forever
I don't want to talk to people outside of my country
>>717762426>rent a server for a short timewe were playing together every night after school, you really think we were gonna scrape up enough allowance to pay for that shit every day?
>ctrl+f : zoom
>13 results
>ctrl+f : boom
>15 results
the state of this board lmao
>>717737135 (OP)Not being able to call a person like this artist a faggot along wth matchmaking creating an environment where it's in your best interest to make as as few waves as possible since any wrong move can result in you being put in time out, either indirectly by getting bumped back into a queue or being punished directly.
>>717737135 (OP)i get my online interaction from talking to my two friends on discord and people in chat when i stream on twitch
>>717762643renting was free you just had a time limit on how long you can use it. usually 12-24 hours.
>>717762757see
>>717751826>posts a tv show clip>no elaboration>anon says please elaborate>you're low iq,shill or indian!>dumps a reddit textwall scene analysisthese are schizos that bump every rage bait thread
>>717737135 (OP)Auto-moderation, auto word filtering/censoring, fags reporting instead of muting, even bigger fags as GMs responding to the reports. Even if everyone wasn't burrowed into some discord's asshole, nobody will speak except in the most generic terms for fear of being banned.
>>717737135 (OP)People do not like me so I rather be alone.
>>717737135 (OP)The more people spend time together, the more they talk. For the example in the image, the process of gathering a group, getting to the dungeon, and actually fighting through the dungeon has been streamlined so much that there's no time nor reason to communicate. If you go play a server-based game and join a long-lasting server with regulars you'll hear them talk all day.
>>717737135 (OP)payers on consoles, skype/discord/etc, companies making chat messages not highly visible and fading away quickly (they dont want you to actually chat)
>>717737975Fake stats, the Chinese are not connected to Internet
>>717763303https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M
>>717761536what vidya do you play
sometimes steam friends threads pop up here and on /vm/ but i reckon it's mostly friend collectors and erpers
The average person is a retard and will see an arrow and follow it, they do not have any time for you because their here to play a game, you are playing the role of an NPC in their game and thats it.
>this thread again
You already got the right answer long time ago.
>>717738710this is about runescape isn't it
>>717737135 (OP)>Play Tera Classic>Global chat, LFG and even the trade chat are very active and isn't just RMT bots ads spam>People stay around the campfire to get buffs, ask for Priest or Mystic buffs>Game had like 600 players but felt 100x more active and alive than anything I've played in the past 10 years
>>717751885Want something scarier?
Every minute, 3 more Indians log on internet for the first time.
The real answer is the combination of Discord and the rise of esports competitive sweatlord culture that turns gaming into a hardcore grind rather than a medium to hang out and socialize with others.
>>717761414Range ban China
>>717744014>Only 700 million Indians
>>717763168Even without context you don't need to be Einstein to figure out the message on a less deeper level. Fucking retards. All of you.
>>717737135 (OP)You not finding the active communities on discord because you think it's gay and embarrassing to join people having fun.
>>717765718>Play RDR2 Online>No chat
>>717737135 (OP)I probably enjoyed your presence but because I didn't want to talk, you can't know that.
These moments are nice but I don't care enough to actually say something back to give conversational feedback.
That and if you portray yourself to be part of a community I'm not in I don't want to say anything since I don't want to make it awkward by not understand your jokes or references.
I'll text chat somewhat to acknowledge you but not much more. This is the internet after all, I brush against hundreds to thousands of people that I ignore daily.
>>717746251They ban cheaters in batches so cheaters don't exactly know what got them banned, they just have the same system for all types of bans, it's also a good moral tactic while demoralizing rule-breakers and making players think they're doing alot.
>>717737135 (OP)>can't freely express yourself anymore and are constantly walking on eggshells to not get reported and banned>I don't get why people don't want to interact with random players anymore
>>717767172Thread's at the end so you hopefully won't catch the retards who always say that you just want to shout nigger in chat instead of just being able to shoot the shit or talk trash with randoms anymore
>>717767341>nstead of just being able to shoot the shit or talk trash with randoms anymoreWhich usually devolves into some retard actually getting upset and going "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" then going
>WAOW HOW DID I GET BANNED I WAS DOING LE EPIC TRASH TALKINGIt's just like that anon that posted his guilds epic WoW bants that just consisted of
>You're not white you're a NIGGER>Oh yeah well you're 500% NIGGER>NUH UH IM WHITE UR A NIGGER
>>717767798Dudes typing nigger in /allchat after getting rolled in BF2 was still pretty funny. I dunno devs shouldn't police their users' speech that hard. Just ban cheaters/RMTbots
>>717767798you sound like you suffer from anal leakage
>>717768563Hey, you're just mad I'll be able to do something with my guitar and hands you'll never be able to do. So yeah, you're gay.
*Plays a guitar riff that Metallica stole from me to make Enter Sandman*
>>717766992That's dumb, they know why they got banned. Because the janny was resting his fat finger sausage hand on the keyboard like I said.
>>717737135 (OP)Matchmaking over persistent player-hosted servers.
>>717737135 (OP)This is simply another facet of the erosion of social trust in the post-9/11 Earth.
You can no longer trust people to keep the contents of your conversation just between you. Step out of line and you will get banned for perhaps maybe offending someone.
No one wants to say the quiet part out loud, but hear me out. Free speech isnโt a hall pass to wreck your life with zero accountability. Self-censoring online and IRL ainโt a betrayal of your โprinciplesโ itโs just comon sense. Think about it for one fucking second
Words have teeth one dumb tweet or drunken rant can cost you your job, your rep, even your senpai. You think youโre immune just cuz youโre โAnonโ? Servers donโt care about your fedora collection. Better to filter yourself than wake up to a termination email or worse.
Credibility > Edgelord points
Want people to take you seriously on here or on LinkedIn? Spamming conspiracies and slurs every five seconds just makes you look like a clown. Self censoring means you pick your battles and your words. Thatโs how you gain real influence instead of racking up ignore lists.
Protect yourself and Others
Casual hate speech and half-baked conspiracies arenโt harmless memes. They fuel real world violence, get you trawled by feds, and suck in vulnerable normies who actually believe your garbage. Anon, anonymity isnโt magic. Data gets handed over when things go sideways.
IRL etiquette Matters Too
Same rules apply at Thanksgiving or the bar. Ranting about replacement theories or how โZOGโ controls everything will get you ghosted at best. Keep it chill or get shown the door, maybe even a patrol car if you push it.
Even the UK Is locking people Up for praying. Yeah I know, sounds tinfoil, but UK cops are cuffin folks for prayin in public and banning literature they donโt like. Itโs fucked up but proves the point: no speech is โsafe.โ Better to self-police than let them throw you in the slammer for thoughtcrime. If you disagree just fuck off
So yeah, self-censoring sucks if youโre all about โmuh purityโ, but itโs the only way to stay free and get shit done. Take control of your own filter, or watch some suit or officer build it for you.
This canโt be argued with.
>>717769005Lemme be more specific Anon. Cheaters as in cheat developers.
It's not the cheat as a whole that gets a cheater banned, it's usually one thing they toggled or tried that tripped the anti-cheat.
Knowing exactly what part of your cheat tripped the anti-cheat lets you circumvent it and improve the cheat.
It's like knowing what part of code caused a crash, if you don't know exactly what caused the crash, it's alot harder to fix it.
>>717761414Because modern FPS is trying it's best to be asocial. Cheating effectively had consequences that would actually sting if you started hanging around a server and making acquaintances. Now you can hack your dong off and socially it doesn't matter as you'll probably never see those 9 other assholes ever again.
>>717769321>muh consequencesIf you get offended over words it's your fault and you should be shunned for it.
In the case of MMOS they made 99% of content way too easy, like brainless faceroll tier.
If they bought back some of the old school design, where everything was at least somewhat dangerous and there was a real punishment for dying you would see people talking all the time.
This is never happening again though, because mmos need to appeal to the worst possible players, because they're too expensive to develop and need to capture as wide an audience as possible.
TRUKE: Just don't play multiplayer games. It's that easy.
>>717737135 (OP)Assholes and bad sportsmanship. Ironically what many retards on this site support and think should not be a bannable offense. For example screaming the n word into a mic.
>>717760706>24/7 server not falling into a single mapGood joke
>>717743997>Also please ignore the fact that economy and overall world situation was deteriorating since 70sEastern European Jews moved into the country around the turn of the century. I have no idea why people these days think the problems the west faces is anything new other than simple lack of historical knowledge.
>>717770179Those are different servers.
>>717770020That almost never happens
>>717749790>Umamusume player liked the game so much they bought a real race horseHoly shit, that's just impressive as hell.
probably cheaper too than dumping thousands of dollars on that game
Godspeed to that horse guy.
>>717737135 (OP)Censorship.
Why talk if it means your game and money can be stolen?
>>717737135 (OP)>people overly worried about getting banned for saying something slightly offensive>people overly worried about someone being insanely offensive>clash of people taking the game way too seriously and people that are fucking around>popularity of 5v5/6v6 games that make that clash even harder>never get to stay with the same people long enough to break through all these mental barriers>games with daily/weekly challenges that put people into a "gotta get my job done" mode
>>717770829Hope he doesn't fuck it
>>717746081Nah, whos putting more work? Guy who calls you bad word or someone intentionally being a nigger.
Thought so, get a job nigger
>>717738710If you can't handle someone that dehumanizes you at their worst, then you don't deserve them at their best.
Extroverts, ironically.
You don't need to talk to randos when you have a group of friends to play with. And because they now make up the bulk of multiplayer game communities, most people are just not going to respond to you when you talk to them discouraging interaction even more.
>>717767798Maybe because that's what people want. People interacted with each other online, even the introverted ones, because online you got to be yourself. You didn't have to put on a mask to be socially acceptable. Then reddit faggots like you turned online environments into the same clown show real life is so is it really any wonder that people started avoiding interactions with random people online like they do in real life?
I'm a GIRL GAMER roasties being told to shut the fuck up got put in charge of that stuff.
>>717737135 (OP)I know Overwatch isn't somewthing worth playing but regardles, I play it.
This fucking game will chatban you for saying Tank Diff or DPS diff because kids don't like being criticised in 2025. You can get banned for teabagged. You can get banned for not fucking switching characters when someone demands it. You can get banned for saying faggot in chat but little faggots can spam at you all day and seemingly not get banned.
Chatbans dont' mean you're banned from chat and still can play, that'd make sense. You're banned from the WHOLE GAME. for a fucking MONTH.
I've been banned for a month for the 4th time now and I 100% know my new account will be permantnly banned soon the way my original account was.
Overwatch 1 never did aaaaaany of this shit. You could get chatbanned max. I haven't felt more censored in a long time.
Typical Overwatch chat goes something like
>anon: dumb fucking tank doesn't know how to tank>anon: yeah fucking tank learn your role you dumb shit you can't do shit as Rein>Me: Fuck you bothTHIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED
Fuck Blizzard I hope they are burnt down.
>>717761414non-Whites do not respect rules. They are taught to cheat to win. You can never have an environment designed by Whites which requires trust because non-Whites will cheat. There is no such a thing as honor in their societies.
Sadly this is how our society is exploited as a whole too
>>717743357>schizo retardlittle faggots call anyone a schizo that talks back to them lol. just like women calling their ex narcissist.
>>717769321You're coming at the topic from a practical perspective. Other Anons are coming at it from a moral perspective.
You're not clever for noticing you can avoid punishment by avoiding the no-no words, you're just a castrated beta male.
>>717737135 (OP)pic related this is why gaming interaction is dead
>>717771727My true self isn't an unaware clown.
Look at how much trash talking gets posted because it's so pathetic and funny.
Imagine having such an insignificant life you have nothing better to do than to try to make some retard online feel bad and just make yourself look like a blatant retard which is why they resort to just shouting nigger.
ps. ur gay
>>717737135 (OP)overprotective moderation + discord
>>717747324All my friends vanished after high school. I've tried to find new ones, but no luck.
>NEET nuclear meltdown thread
>>717742220degenerates do not make good friends
>>717737176Russians too
>>717737975>top 5 countries are all third world Grim
>>717773642This post made me realize we haven't had fresh stuff for hatemail threads since the 360/PS3 era
>>717737975>500,000 is only 36% of their populationPull the plug
>>717776452we need the mgsv tongue disease that kills anyone speaking hindu
People in general are more stressed out and less social nowadays, which makes things difficult for the people who do want to socialize.
>>717737135 (OP)I'm just trying to get my daily done.
>>717761414This is due to multiple factors
>Chinese, Russians love cheating>cheating is a way for people to earn money, people just like breaking shit in general>more overall players means more overall cheaters>back in the very late 90s/2000s developers could play their own games online and were "part of the community">now due to the sheer size of population, its impossible to moderate on an individual basis unless you hand over control to community servers>FPS genre has always been one of the easiest to cheat in>FPS franchises (battlefield, call of duty) have moved into live services or simply ignore the userbase/cheaters on older gamesA massive reason as to why BF6 had cheats working on Day 1 was because PC BF since BF4/1 (1 is when it got really bad) has been largely ignored when DICE stops developing anything for them. 2042's engine is 6's engine, so cheaters from 2042 had the advantage on vulnerabilities and knowing how to inject properly. It's been horrendously bad since 1, 4 luckily has a dedicated amount of community servers unlike 1, 5 and 2042.
CoD literally runs everything on the same engine now, when in the past Sledgehammer games used their own heavily changed IW engine, with Treyarch doing the same depending on the tech needed. Cheaters now just have to figure out one game and they'll have a great foundation for the next 3-4 titles.
>>717740518to be fair heโs just warning you to avoid becoming a victim of aging out of relationships and having nobody else with time invested together when that happens
most people become more and more insular lazy secluding their lifestyle of socializing to only the most convenient situations youโll statistically experience at least half of your closest friends doing this to you unless you live right nearby work together etc
>>717779513Thank you Arnold
>>717737135 (OP)>What killed online interraction?your unwillingness to find people to play with and talk to in and outside the game
>>717737975brown hand posted this btw
>>717749447you never spent any time in the barrens in the early 2000s did you?
the gluesnifers DID say dumb shit, and they were ridiculed for it relentlessly for their entire 15-30 leveling time, shit there was this one guy who was really into power rangers that had to join the alliance because his way of typing was so recognizable that even his alts would be spotted, recognized, and called out.
>>717737975When we win, heavily firewalled intranets will replace the internet. Cant shitskins and bots ruining everything.
>>717737975The internet used to be such a paradise
>>717772402Why are men incapable of being nontoxic?
>>717783750Men are able to do this thing called banter
>>717737135 (OP)overly zealous moderation of in-game chat
3rd party chat programs
>>717783784Also known as "being a dick". Men just don't know how to interact without hostility, real or feigned.
Anything else is "fag talk".
>>717771956>chatban you for saying Tank Diff or DPS diffthe reason people started saying diff is because it isnt bannable
>You can get banned for teabaggedim going to assume you mean teabagging, esl, and no it isnt bannable by itself
>not fucking switching characters when someone demands itoutright false
>You can get banned for saying faggot in chat but little faggots can spam at you all day and seemingly not get banned.because they dont call people faggots, retard
the reason (You) are getting banned is because youre getting mass reported by people who dont like you, make less enemies and youll be able to keep your account. blizzard has been banning based off of amount of reports for fucking ever
t. talked shit since '21 without a single ban
>>717784349The only significant male conversation you had was when your dad said he was disappointed with you
>>717784581You're only strengthening my argument.
>>717737135 (OP)I don't mind helping people but I hate sma talks, shit feels forced and shallow
>>717784673I have no obligation to be nice to you
i have been on the internet wasting time as a degenerate basement dweller long before any of you. the internet is shit now for the same reason the real world is shit: it's populated by (You)
>>717784879See, this is why game chat is always toxic.
Here's a good metaphor
You go to the park and it's full of litter. When you ask how this happened, everyone responds, "Clean it up janny, lol, not my problem." And that's why nobody goes to the park anymore.
If you want a civilization you have to be civil. You have to take care of common spaces, not take a shit in the middle of the street.
>>717785245Online internet isn't real life
Why can't anyone grow a brain cell and be able to tell fiction from reality?
Like no shit I'm not going to behave the same at work or a DOTA 2 match
But you fucktards are losers with no life so the internet is everything.
And honestly with all the online ID shit going on right now, I think I'm better off starting to seriously consider doing more innawoods hobbies or just being outside.
>>717784941The normies ruined the internet. When we were young the normies barely used the internet. But when the internet started working on smartphones they were suddenly everywhere. All the boomers infested everything and ruined it, like your parents joining facebook. Everything became about politics and money. The advertisers had a field day because normies are sheep. They never learned to protect their personal information, and they actually buy things from ads. And it all went to shit.