What went wrong???

ray tracing doesn't sell

no mick gordon because of bruised bethesda manager egos

>>717738680 (OP)
>shit music
>even normies noticed the gameplay is just red light, green light
>massively higher spec requirements
>Story no one gives a shit about forced in your face
Nothing went right.

Are people getting sick of shooters?

it could be worse you know...

>>717739907
Didn't Yakuza always have a super niche audience?

>>717738680 (OP)
Parried away a playerbase

>>717738680 (OP)
>DOOM 2016
>Releases in a time where 99% of FPS were cover based shooters a la Cawodoody
>Game is daring, a "classic" FPS experience and gameplay but with an AAA shine on it
>Ushers a new era of Boomshoots
>Then Comes DOOM Eternal
>Takes DOOM 2016 core gameplay, and iterates on it, adds new things, rebalances others
>Is still the only AAA fast paced shooter since then
>Game is considered one of the best shooters of all times, revigorates the Boomshoot genre even more
>Then comes DOOM The Dark Ages
>Complete regression on every front
>Instead of being daring and having its one unique proposition, it takes inspiration in some of the worst gaming trends, mainly the infamous Parryslop
>Instead of just being a shooter where you shoot things in tight levels, you get boring "open" levels with barely anything to shoot at, and you also have mandatory dragon, mech, and turret sections that belongs to the PS2 era
>Plot, as unimportant as it is in a DOOM game, takes itself way too seriously compared to 2016 and even Eternal, which still had that whacky over the top boomshoot feel
>Doomguy feels like a side character and an errand boy in this story, meanwhile in the two previous games, the story was driven by Doomguy's actions entirely
>Music is the blandest corpo metal shit ever, which is no surprise considering Mick Gordon doesn't work with those faggots anymore, they couldn't even get Hulshult and Levy, who both did a great job in Eternal's DLCs
Truly the Dark Ages of DOOM

>>717738680 (OP)
>Couldn't even reach DOOM 2016's peak
This is one of the worst flops ever

>>717738680 (OP)
>single player game
>people play it
>people finish it
>people no longer play it

>>717739883
gachanig cope

>100 bucks
>gamepass day 1
>runs like doody

>>717743172
nobody played it

Necromunda is the superior DOOM

>>717738680 (OP)
>New Doom games started deviating from the controllerslop that has been ruining FPS games since the 2000s
>Bethesda gets acquired by Microsoft and Doom the Dark Ages goes right back to catering to controllerslop
Literally just that. The Xbox (and to a lesser extent, the Playstation) was an unmitigated disaster for FPS games and Microsoft still has a vested interest in their controllers remaining the lowest common denominator in spite of them being unable to play FPS games without massive compromises.

>>717739907
>asset flip spinoff
People pretending that budgets aren't real is annoying. You might be dumb, but you're not that stupid.

>>717738680 (OP)
Game Pass, retard.

>>717739907
Meanwhile the mainline game is still beating Doom LMAO

>>717739170
Marty Stratton is a massive faggot for denying us another Mick Gordon soundtrack

>>717739170
>>717746589
How they treated Mick is the main reason I paid absolutely no attention to this dumpster fire, fuck those bastards

>>717746185
Cope retard

bodes well for TES VI lol

>>717738680 (OP)
didn't like the previews one and the moment I saw her girlboss face I stopped following all news on the newest game

>>717738680 (OP)
the spic dev kinda mocked fans in an interview with the whole "doom the woke ages" controversy.
bad idea.

>>717738680 (OP)
seems it was a case of the devs getting restless and not wanting to make the same type of game again despite it being pretty clear the market just wanted more rip and tear

>>717746692
He never even bothered to refute Mick, which means Mick was telling the truth, what a shitstain. Corporates always find a way to ruin everything good

>>717738680 (OP)
They jumped the shark while going full retard.

>>717738680 (OP)
Its because of the forced raytracing. The vast, vast majority of Steam users play on a toaster incapable of meeting the 3080 minimum spec required to even run the game

>>717738680 (OP)
>Parryslop
>Ultra shit metal music right after the controversy with Mick, plus not even bothering to get Hushult
>Game looks like some mega hackneyed pseudo-medieval """""""edgy""""""" setting which shares zero similarities and as such none of the charm of 2016, Eternal, or even the classics
>Demons have become even more Lovecraftian bullshit, Cthulhu is a literal enemy in the game, that's how unoriginal they are
>Environments are dull plains and duller buildings , yet apparently you need the newest overpriced NVIDIA card because retard devs can't LIGHT MAPS (what game devs have been doing for all of history LMAOOOO) and rely on NVIDIA AI and raytracing to do the job they were hired to do
>Story is even more boring than in previous games and DEBRA WILSON is in it for some fucking reason as a major black girlboss character for brownie points (so much for Eternal mocking wokies kek)
>Giant mech levels feel even less like Doom and are boring as shit

Fuck everything about this game

>>717738680 (OP)
IT'S FUCKING SHIT! ETERNAL WAS SHIT AND THIS IS SHIT. YOU ARE SHIT. IT'S ALL JUST SHIT!

>>717747247
You can really feel the corporate squeeze, probably whoever made the jokes about demons being 'mortally challenged' got fired on release

>>717738680 (OP)
Probably because you need like a fucking 4080 to have am enjoyable experience

>>717738829
I thought nuDOOM was renowned for being extremely optimized and running well on anything.
Why then move to forced raytracing?

>>717738680 (OP)
Doom has become Marvel slop at this point

i paid 2 dollars to play it on gamepass

>>717747535
I already said why. Modern DEItard devs are literally incapable of putting a sun entity and tweaking it, so they use NVIDIA AI to accelerate everything.

The funniest part is the lead devs trying to genuinely convince people that BAKING LIGHTS takes YEARS. As if this were fucking 1999 with Toy Story and they need Silicon Graphics PCs kekekek

>>717747070
>it's a toaster because it can't run modern bloatware

i saw a 3min dark ages cutscene that i initally assumed was from the newest dragon age translop. nothing on-screen indicated i was viewing DOOM content.

>>717747853
The nu designs are absolute ass

>>717747070
>it's the customer's fault that we made a game they couldn't run

it looked shit and trying to turn doom into a marvel slop universe with other characters and shit is retarded

>>717748067
even with designs aside, no DOOM game i've ever played has had a group of people stand around and jaw

I enjoy the game, though I see why a bunch didn't. I had to increase the game speed, activate autorun, skip every cutscene and take out the slowdown as soon as I was able to hit that sweet spot. Add to that, the game's expensive, requires a beefy setup due to raytracing, some fans are still mad over the Mick Gordon situation and the bright green projectiles that scream PARRY THESE, NIGGA are off-putting. It didn't improve upon Eternal in a way that fans of that game would absolutely feel the need to play it.

>>717738680 (OP)

not enough epic slaya moments

>>717748417
All they had to do besides not fuck over Mick Gordon was have you kick open your sarcophagus in a Gothic tomb and immediately go to town
No cutscenes, no bullshit, just raw unfiltered rip and tear

>>717747247

Debra Wilson plays the white girl macguffin

On the subject of Eternal, the recent update removed my progress so I started the campaign over. Fuck me, I forgot how much of a slog it is when you haven't got your upgrades.

>>717748684
Still generic wokie points. Also she looks black in a ton of cutscenes but that's probably just a showcase of how shit the lighting is even in cutscenes

>>717748226
Who is blaming the customer? I am saying the developers were absolutely insane for spending hundreds of millions making a game anyone who has looked at the Steam Survey in the past 5 years would know almost nobody in their target demographic has the hardware to run. It's a guaranteed way to make a commercial failure

>>717747535
attempt to sell gpus

>shield must remain on screen for the entire game
The premise of this game is a non-started. The seed from which this game grew is flawed, leading to corrupt fruit. When I play DOOM, I want to RIP AND TEAR. There could not be anything more antithetical to the thesis of rip and tear than a fucking shield I'm supposed to hide behind for the entire game. Might as well have called it doom: fag edition.

>>717749114
But dood! The shield has a chainsaw!!!

>>717749114
JUST LIKE MY CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE

I had fun enough for 3 whole playthroughs
shooting's still fun, but I disliked how slow the shield would sometimes come up, and absolutely hated the slow weapon switch speed, basically made you stick to one weapon as much as possible
but yeah, 16 and Eternal are better

>>717747686
This is the most retarded shit I’ve ever read, what the fuck is wrong with modern gamedev

>>717747686
>saving hours
>while all they did was just firing lighting artists and relied on Nvidias AI so fags did that in same timeframe but without having to pay lighting artists
lol. its funny how certain roles are being completly phased out due to rtx shit and no one says anything.

>>717750628
you don't know anything about game development and it shows
just think about the poor multimillion dollar company..

>>717747247
>pseudo-medieval """""""edgy""""""" setting which shares zero similarities and as such none of the charm of 2016, Eternal, or even the classics
>Demons have become even more Lovecraftian bullshit, Cthulhu is a literal enemy in the game, that's how unoriginal they are
I'm 99% sure that they were trying to do a Quake reboot and then they got told to pivot and make it Doom instead.

>>717750270
DEI hires. Modern devs aren't like old devs. Devs behind games like Half-Life 2 spent years reading photography, lighting, design and similar books while heavily experimenting with new tech and doing as much as possible to make games very easy to run and also look great and play great. New devs are just nobodies who can't do shit without even asking ChatGPT to tell them how to do it

>>717750706
No, it was always meant to be a DOOM game, the bethesda leaked schedule during the FTC trial from before 2020 reflects that

Too expensive, waiting for the complete edition at 50% off.

>f3 "covid"
>no results
eternal haters be slacking frfr

>>717750834
tortanic faggots lost and got raped

>>717750787
Huh. Well that's just confusing. A bunch of the decisions they made that are really awkward and inconsistent for Doom would've been great for Quake.

Why not just make nuHexen/Heretic if they want dark medieval fps?

>>717739170
But mick gordon was an open satanist. Maybe it was better for the franchise to get rid of a demonically possessed person. There are probably members on the dev team that want nothing to do with that shit

Gamepass, and also mandatory rtx. It's a great game though, you'll see in ten years once it's no longer popular.

>>717751386
True, and his music was definitely very "random garbled noises". But the new composers also suck tons of ass, they need to get another Bobby Prince on board

>>717750894
Anon, 2016 and especially Eternal were already Quake and not Doom. This is bad even for Quake.

Doom's last game was Doom 64, and even that was somewhat questionable. Stop playing nu-Doom and go mod classic Doom

>>717751386
>>717752837
Hey there Marty
Still buttmad that you got raped in public by Mick?

>>717747535
Microsoft deal with nvidia to sell gpus

>>717747686
This corpo's pr talk is completely ass backwards. Lightmaps and whatever else were always used as an optimization because it's faster in the end. Besides, with modern hardware baking in shit doesn't even take that long when you compare this to some 1995 hardware. Literally every shitty multicore desktop is a literal supercomputer when compared to those times...
It's obvious that nvidia is pulling the strings in the background.

>>717753067
Fucking retard
Marti would never hire a Bobby Prince type guy, he'll hire the cheapest and most generic "metal" bands possible because he's an unoriginal piece of shit

>>717738680 (OP)
Look at this flopograph.

>>717740050
Yakuza is normalfag tier since Y0.

>>717738680 (OP)
I'm not spending 70 bong bucks on a prequel with gameplay I don't like.

>>717754938
My brother bought a 5080 which came with a free copy. I installed it from his Steam library, played it for a few minutes, it was gay, and I uninstalled.

>>717738680 (OP)
because its gayslop