So how can FFXVI be saved?

>7.4 and 7.5 should be merged and integrated into 8.0.
>The development of 8.0 must be prioritized.
>A release of 8.0 must be targeted for Q3 2026 at the latest.
>Kate Cwynar and Daichi Hiori should be transferred/fired.

blow up the planet again
make it ffxi-2

>>717741034 (OP)
Honestly the only way it gets saved is if they admit they screwed up and do a full tonal course correction. The world feels sterile, pacing is busted, and the RPG systems are shallow. Merge 7.4 and 7.5? Sure, but only if they actually trim the bloat and not just stack more padding. And firing Cwynar/Hiori might help, but this is a leadership problem at the top. Yoshi-P looks tired, and the team clearly has no unified vision post-launch. Either make a bold return to the high fantasy roots or lean ALL the way into the political grimdark-but stop trying to blend it awkwardly.

love speen

let this farting retard join you again

nobody cares
>>>/vg/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/trash/

>>717741034 (OP)
They can do a few things.
>make new mmo when dt concludes
>they can remake ff11
>cut 7.0 short and just go all in with 8.0

>>717743005
If we are getting a weird goth girl in the party it needs to be Gaia

>>717743005
he wrote her

>>717743025
Janitor applications are closed

>>717743235
I love him then. The fart scene however was obviously thinly veiled fetish slop.

did you need to make 2 concurrent seethe threads?

>>717743235
Oh hey is that the guy who was like wretching into a puke tray, depressed, dying of cancer in the hospital? He wrote the emotionally painful song the game has to offer. It was either him or the guy who wrote shadowbringers.

>>717743412
soken makes music, not story

>>717743005
I kinda want Zero to meet Calyx

>>717743412
you mean him

>>717743460
He kinda looks like her.
>>717743457
That was Soken and yeah it's great, he was supposed to die and it shows in shadowbringer's music. Emotional and powerful as fuck.

>>717741034 (OP)
>liking Sphene
dogshit taste, you're on the same level as Wuk Lamat enjoyers who do it unironically

>>717743412
>Yoshi P got choked up and cried when he told his story
Bring that level of passion back to this game.

>>717743460
Jesus christ no.

>>717741034 (OP)
There's no saving this shitshow.
Over the years virtually every aspect has gone to complete shit and the last thing keeping most people hooked was the MSQ.
Even if the next MSQ is good, the damage is already done.
>msq dam protecting village.jpg

I still wonder what happened within CBU3 during this process with MSQ and DT? Were they all high, or did Sweet Baby Inc have a lot of influence back then?

Guys I was asleep. How many threads did this raving retard make and how hard did he get his ass blasted in them for him to spam the catalogue with them?

>>717743889
This one at least has room for discussion even if it is or will devolve into "game dead" the others one are low effort
>ffxivsissies in free fall
slop.

holy fuck dude how many times are you going to make these threads

>>717743889
I think he's mad because most people I've seen are positive about 7.3 and the jannies are finally doing something about his image dumps, so he's trying hard to regain control of the narrative.

>>717743889
just this one. the other thread is still in teh 400s

>>717744235
Oh jesus fuck there is another one.
There's this one as well >>717740481

I want to come back really bad but i'm in a strange predicament.
>started playing during the chocobo cosplaying a dragon minion new years event
>my old outdated alienware could handle it
>graphics overhaul comes out
>struggle running it
>buy a ps5 and ffxiv
>realize after a few months I prefer xbox
>trade ps5 for xbox
>now I have to buy it yet again for the 3rd time

>>>/vg/
Fuck off back to your containment board and stay there.

Everyone's playing runescape...

>>717744363
lol what a crazy person.

>>717741237
Welcoming*
*If you'll indulge our delusions and never disagree with us about anything meaningful

>>717744363
the ole make a bunch of threads and the fat jannies will prune the ones will actual discussion

>>717744509
Nah some of us aren't zoomers playing fotm slop.

When is something going to be done about the smaller than a handful of posters posting all the same shit constantly every day in the same way with identical samefag responses pretending to have a conversation

>>717744932
Unfortunately the nature of anonymity means there is no real solution. Jannies who understand what is happening would be nice to at least inconvenience them with the 10 minute post time.

>>717744932
Never.

>>717741034 (OP)
>>The development of 8.0 must be prioritized.
>>A release of 8.0 must be targeted for Q3 2026 at the latest.
over a year of no patches will surely save the game.

>>717744932
We need IP counts back, I'm convinced these threads don't have more than 10 different posters

>>717745048
Same. I feel like if they suddenly turned on UIDs for /v/, you'd see like an insane amount of samefagging.

>>717745048
>posters
You mean bots.

>>717744932
When Square Enix pays its protection money like the other companies.

>>717745048
>me, the only true anon
>the avatarfag
>the dumper
>the other dumper
>the 2 guys that argue about lore
>the legacyfag
I think that covers everyone

I see a thread of 400--700 replies, and I wonder just how much of it comes from a singular person.

>>717743235
And he did a fine job of it and everything else in your image, Dawntrail is Yoshi's fault.

how do you save a sinking ship when the passengers are okay with the big gaping hole letting water in because it was part of the ship's design to deteriorate mid-voyage

>>717745491
why are you so obsessed with it?

>>717743235
Don't forget, he wrote

>>717743074
>make new mmo when dt concludes
If they were to make a new MMO I wonder how many classes it would have, the current devs would clearly prefer to have only one class per role but would DPS be 1 DPS class, 1 ranged and 1 melee or 1 ranged, 1 melee and 1 magic

>>717742690
>Yoshi-P looks tired, and the team clearly has no unified vision post-launch.
It really feels like Endwalker was supposed to be the grand finale. It wasn't, official speaking, but it's like most of the team subconsciously felt "Good, our job is finally done after ten years" and gave in to the sweet call of oblivion. Yoship hasn't played the game in several months, the jobs feel all the same, the dungeons always use the same formula, with just a few variations with the bosses like we saw in this patch, the plot is a mess, the lore and localization are barely checked to make sure everything is alright. The only thing that has remained consistently good is the music.

If the house isn't burning then why is it on fire and everyone is running out of it?

>>717743865
Nothing happened drastically different the problem is Yoshida and Ishikawa both agreed and approved Hiroi's writing.

>>717745608
>why do you think the notion of a bump limit hitting thread being overwhelmingly filled by posts from a single person might be bad
I don't know. I guess that's just how it should be, huh.

>>717743412
>It was either him or the guy who wrote shadowbringers.
When did Ishikawa transition?

>>717743005
I like Zero, but god, the signs were already all there. We should have known Dawntrail couldn't come out good if this was the premise.

>perfect Mary Sue everyone adores
>powerful as fuck
>must have at least one motion tic (tipping her hat) to make her more relatable and funny
>has a literal shojo girl transformation
>deals the big bad guy the final blow while you're there watching

>>717745924
durante was being a jackass and had it coming

>>717745924
Agreed, she was proto-Wuk.

I just dont get why dawntrail a boring utopia americas and focused on a single insipid catwoman whos character trails are liking people and tacos


would it be too much to ask for the people of the americas to hate each other or not be happy to solve everything with a taco?

>>717746080
maybe Daichi used Zero as a Red hering

Why is every last discussion surrounding this game steeped in so much melodrama and neuroticism?

I wonder how much MSQ affects production. If we had an expansion without MSQ, would that mean we would have 16 dungeons and 6 trials at launch, for example?

>>717746140
>deals the big bad guy the final blow while you're there watching
I'm a Hiroi apologist but he also did something along the lines of this way back in the 3.0 alliance raids so you might actually be onto a pattern here.

>>717745924
And the signs were from the getgo, I’m so proud I saved this anon’s post mentioning it early on.

>>717745924
>deals the big bad guy the final blow while you're there watching
I'm a Hiroi apologist but he also did something along the lines of this way back in the 3.0 alliance raids so you might actually be onto a pattern here.

>>717745024
Jannies are just lazy, could easily fix it by having thread ids

>>717746434
Was it the first time that someone other than the Wol was given powers that no one else had or understood or could counter and came out of nowhere?
The literal fedora tipping was the icing on the cake whoever came up with that...it was Hiroi wasn't it? Needs their cock kicked.

>>717746474
I have a feeling the reason why IP count was hidden is so the valuation of the site is made higher to advertisers. Their claims of how many views are actually unique probably wasn’t actually matching up, so on certain boards they lie about it.

we need canon on-screen sex with lyse and a timeskip to her having babies

>>717746140
Apparently it has something to do with the external DEI advisors they hired. They told the team not to show the Scions as a foreign group coming to teach the "Americas" how to behave and be respectful to each other, but simply focus on Wuk Lamat's rite of succession while she (a native) took care of her people's problems in her own way (talking, offering food, preaching love and peace for everyone). It's also the reason why there is very little focus on the Miqote tribe based on Native Americans and the Blue Mages (also based on Natives) are relegated to the fisher quests. There are hints in additional dialogues/non-mandatory quests that show Tural has a bloody past, but except for the Mamool Ja, they didn't show shit to avoid any offense.

>>717746559
A fairly good chance of that.

I thought for sure wuk was gonna be an azem shard, maybe metem

>>717746584
there is r34 of her being fucked in Rhalgrs Reach by the Wol

>>717746676
They don't need consultants to tell them that Yoshi is himself a progressive, consultants are just the expert progressives who make sure the devs didn't miss anything

FF14 is dying and Wuk Lamat killed the game.
But seriously, the damage of Dawntrail is immense nothing short of them pulling off almost a 2.0 rescue will save this game at this point.

>>717746702
>There's r34 of (character)!
I would berate you on being this oblivious, but then again the ffxiv community is an ocean of shitty OCs and crappy futa sex or whatever fetish as off model as they can get.
it's like they hate the game and want to play farmville on top of its corpse.
how do you even have less than 2000 pics of venat on r34
even y'shtola suffers from this
what the fuck

>>717746846
yoshitpiss even at this point has only used up 10% of the goodwill with se bigwigs.
hell be making even more aaa vanity flops for the next decade

>>717746467
He loves his OCs. It's evident he wants them to be in the spotlight, especially considering the WoL isn't really a fixed character, but the players' own creation. Maybe he has less emotional ties to the WoL for this reason, while Ishikawa tended to make everything about them, thus greatly pleasing the player base (you're the Warrior of Darkness whom the Exarch has been trying to summon for years, you were Emet's best friend in another life, you were also Azem, one of the most influential characters in the whole game, and so their super useful crystal is rightfully yours, the Dark Knight quests all revolve around you and your love for yourself etc.)

>>717746876
XIV doesn't get as much art because there's g-pose.
Just as WoW gets a lot of aislop now instead of real art.

>>717747042
>you were also Azem
I thought the point of the arc was you aren't azem, you just inherited part of his soul but you're your own person

Can i get the same Stuff that Square Enix is smoking?

>>717746349
No answers?

owari da

>>717747352
Is this the same fag that lied about things the last time?

>>717747450
these are the newest numbers

>>717741034 (OP)
Destroy all of Turalyol
If players still want to farm bicolor FATE gems or maps then they just do a blue quest in Ultima Thule where the civilization of Turalyol is recreated as an illusory memory of a fallen world.

I don't know how Ultima Thule works.

>>717747330
Well, you are "sundered Azem". You possess a part of his soul, just like Ardbert did etc. If you were to rejoin with all your sundered parts, you would have Azem's full soul. What ShB and EW make clear, as you said, is that the past is gone, the world of the Ancient can't be brought back anymore, and so you're the inheritor of Azem's crystal and possess his same characteristics (love for adventure and travels, willing to help everyone, super strong, always finding the right solution etc.), but you aren't *him* anymore. It's also telling how the game nor the other characters even point this out. No Scions ever told us "Damn, your past self surely knew how to make things interesting" or "So you were part of the Convocation in your Ancient's life". It's the elephant in the room that's never addressed.

Make final fantasy 17 online, but all the scions are cute girls who love (you) and atleast 2 of them fight over you constantly without your character realizing
You get hagged as part of the story atleast once

>>717746876
What?

>>717747352
He is 100% correct, but the faithful don't care about figures and hard data because they 'believe' there's no talking to them so my advice is to ignore them and let them reap what they're sowing by pretending everything is fine and dandy, that the game isn't in trouble, that thinking the devs are made of glass and need protecting. Them being vehement sycophants for the current state of the game and shitting on the people not who made it that way but the people who 'noticed'.

>>717748059
Lakshimi didn't win and we didn't fuck Lyse and Raubahn on the spot and we're all suffering from it

>>717747680
Honestly? That’s already a more elegant solution than anything in Dawntrail. You destroy the continent in lore, chalk it up to some tragic calamity or metaphysical collapse, and then pivot to the “remembrance zone” meme like they already did in Thule. Perfect excuse to keep content farms for FATEs, maps, and lorehounds, without being shackled to the disaster-tier writing and tonal whiplash of Tural.

and I don't think the writers know how Ultima Thule works either

>>717748359
What the fuck are you talking about? I said simply there is some porn of Lyse and you went into some autistic spiel in response.

If lakshmi won we'd all be sucking on colossal snek tits right now
You cannot handle that much milk, no matter how powerful you are

>>717746701
Her name means Venus so if anything she''d be connected to Venat.

>>717743162
why not both

>>717746701
She is from the Source, so she can't be an Azem's shard, we are. If you're looking for the shard from the Ninth, then it's definitely the researcher called Eosphor mentioned in the puzzle lab. The name means "bringer of dawn" and they were tasked with studying the key. They acted suspicious at the same time as Krile's parents did, so they probably were the one who helped them steal the key and escape.

>>717746876
>how do you even have less than 2000 pics of venat on r34
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I really wish you stupid motherfuckers would learn to use pixiv. Hell, or even Japanese twitter.

>>717745924
You know at least zero was
>zenos's void avatar
>never said to be a weak little bitch who suddenly surpassed you in power without training
>had a void specific ability to seal voidsent in crystals as a hax ability instead of a raw power ability
>was more appealing to look at and less awful to talk to than wuk lamat
>was only around for patch quests
>has room to be written well if somebody else does it when she returns during the void expansion

>>717747835
this sounds so dumb that I would actually try it

>>717747745
But when you rejoined with Ardbert the first thing Emet says is "No, it can't be you" referring to Azem as he sees Azem standing there. So even the lore doesn't know what the fuck is going on with the WoL/Azem thing.

>>717747835
Straight men don't play final fantasy so who would this appeal to?

>>717749674
Thats just because he recognizes the soul colour right? in EW he pretty clearly doesn't think you are azem

>>717749789
Because Azem is still around during EW, so they think you're one of Azem's creations instead.

>removed 90% of the homos and attractive males
>expansion flops
What did the fans means by this?

>>717749674
Yes, Emet sees Azem (as a full fledged Ancient) for a second and that's why he says "It can't be" (not "It can't be you"), because by all accounts your soul should still be too sundered for you to look like Azem again. That was probably some poetic choice by the devs to show that we're getting powerful as fuck, edging closer to our full Amaurotine self the more soul shards we get. But our soul is definitely the same, even Hythlodaeus recognizes it and calls us "our new old friend".

I might take a break from /v/.
Tired of every xiv thread (and honestly every /v/ thread, even about other games) being "le sky falling everything is over" garbage ad infinitum. What even is the point of discussing video games if it's always all the same armchair shareholder sports team nonsense.

>>717749789
Isn't WoL's soul color similar but not the same as Azem's? I think it was Hythlodaeus that mentioned it when he was still in mystery nigga mode.

>>717749962
Instead of crying like a bitch why don't you just talk about what you want to talk about in the thread?

>>717749890
God imagine being an Erenville girly. This cute chocolate bunny boy with an accent suddenly becomes a massive breakout character that invites you to another expansion. Then you get to that expansion and the bunny boy is completely silent and passive while a man pretending to be a woman yaps at you.

>>717749875
This, even though they go beyond it and say you look like azems clone but with giraffe/potato proportions/cat/lizard tail/bunny ears

>>717749582
You think these retards know anything? When I seen that one retard said ffxiv rarely get any art I fucking knew he was lying or don’t follow any artists. I seen a ton of ffxiv fan art daily

>>717750054
My headcanon is my WoL has the same color eyes as Azem. As luck would have it, I picked orange because I'm a blind retard that doesn't know what gold looks like, and Azem's crystal is orange.

>>717749890
>no hot guys for the fujos to thirst over
>no hot girls for the incels to thirst over
>the WoL put in the background for most of the MSQ
>terrible voice acting and direction
>shitty MSQ
Let's be honest, Dawntrail never had any hope to succeed.

>>717749776
Straight men, the real audience this game needs

>>717749983
>そんな不思議な色の魂は うん、いくつに分かたれていても、間違えようがない
He calls it an oddly coloured soul, one that he could never fail to recognise even though it is shattered. I think that means azems soul looked rather distinct.

>>717750310
yet it got the green light by Yoshi-P

this game was never worth subbing for more than one month per expansions and yet it's still the best mmo on the market

btqw if anyone criticizes this game it means they're all the person samefagging, the subscriber base plummeting is purely coincidental.

>>717750480
fair
I intend on resubbing for 7.55 to try shit out but not for the monthly drip feed anymore

>>717750041
>shelved Urianger
>shelved Thancred
>shelved Estienien
>shelved Erenville
I just don't understand what the the fuck Hiroi was thinking when he pulled this shit. I'm assuming at some point Ishikawa threatened him at knife point which is the only reason G'raha is in the expansion.

>>717750525
I know you're mad that you get outed every thread, but even your brainlet self has to realize that you are only recognizable not because you critique XIV or Dawntrail, but because you post all the same shit, the exact same way every day with the exact same images.
You're just trying to obfuscate it.

>>717750731
This is my first post in the thread, thanks for confirming my statement.

>no hot guys
Can tell you guys don’t talk to any females, DT has 4 dudes they wanted to fuck Erenville, Koana, Zoraal Ja, and Bakool Ja Ja. Especially Bakool Ja Ja and how they talk about him having two dicks

>>717750797
>I am just playing defense for a thread spammer

>>717742690
> RPG systems are shallow
Understatement of the century. Even current WoW after 2 decades of "streamlining" has more depth as an RPG than XIV at this point.

>>717750224
It's just insane how they can go 'there's no porn of the characters, only OCs', meanwhile I managed to find an artist that is obsessed with drawing porn of that one random ass NPC that followed Fourchenault around. So there ain't no way they can't find porn of the major characters.

>>717750803
Wanting to fuck lizards is a meme, and the cat and the rabbit barely show up in scenes. At best you got that one section with Erenville where a whole bunch of nothing happened. Now compare that to interactions with Ardbert or Emet or G'raha.

>>717750858
one button combat lol

>>717750835
Your schizo boogeymen will always exist, whether people have something nice or bad to say about the game. I get why you're seething, a game that you've invested a lot of time in, or identity with (for some cringe reason) is dying, so you think defending it on 4chan will save it or keep people from quitting, but no one makes a decision on whether or not play or not play by reading one of these threads.

>>717751020
>Your schizo boogeymen
>literal months of flooding on record

>>717751065
When you imply that everyone is him, yes, "your schizo boogeyman".

>>717751116
Oh, you're doing it again.
Why are you so desperate to defend this guy you tacitly admit is flooding threads to shit them up?

>>717751179
Since criticism of 14 is clearly mindbreaking you, you need to go back to l*ddit. You'll never be able to stop people who have already stopped playing this trash from coming to these threads because 1. it's not against the rules, and 2. you will never be a janny.

>>717750951
>Wanting to fuck lizards is a meme
Factually incorrect, being a monster fucker is pretty fucking normal anon, you need to get out more. Also the cat boy and rabbit boy show up enough for women to want to still fuck them. Again you clearly don’t talk to enough females for me to take your posts into consideration

>>717751316
>unrelated flailing
Strange.

>krile gets a moment to reminisce about her parents at the volcano terminal
>same for erenville but at the forest terminal
>wuk goes to the castle one and has nothing shown
>graha goes to the watertown instead where wuk separated with her nanny
not a wuk lmao fan but I think it would have been cleaner if she actually went to the water town and speen went to the castle terminal, instead of graha.

>>717741034 (OP)
>XVI

>>717751353
>addressing the reason you're actually seething about these threads, because you can't stand seeing a negative narrative and claim it's all 1 deranged guy
>"unrelated"
Mindbroken, like I said.

>>717742938
This looks retarded. Did she flash freeze only her jeans shorts or something?

>>717751525
Someone is indeed mindbroken here, and I'm not sure it's me.

FF16's Rising tide is proof to me that CS3 are capable of making a FF game or property, but they ham strung themselves so much in Dawntrail and wanted some gritty dark fantasy in the main game of FF16, the only part I'm sad on for FF16's Rising tide is so few people have played it, experienced it and they'll never know how great it is.
The ost, the world, the people and characters all are peak FF, the only thing that brings it down it's still tide to FF16's main game systems which of course still no party system but Clive's friends are along with him almost the entire time unlike the main game where he's mostly alone.

I really wish Rising Tide was Dawntrail instead and they built Dawntrail around the story of that instead of what we got for FF14.
The music alone is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xb6ybA1e9Y
https://youtu.be/cfzep6kRSWs?si=Cy0b7Syzx89McDGY

But don't take my word for it, please listen if you like FF music, or watch a stream of the Rising Tide dlc if you like the best parts of FF14, it's up there with Heavensward and Shadowbringers, well not as good but it's up there with how good it is, it's a shame it's so short and again locked to FF16.

this shit is sadly too trannified now. i'm going to play wow

>>717750310
>Devs are completely dumbfounded as to why people like the idiot cartoon kids show villain lizard turned friend more than the rest of the characters.

Oh yea it’s gamer time and it took less than million for penta 4 pieces

>>717744509
Did they add some big new thing to OSRS? Even wow is coping with no one playing classic mists by saying everyone is busy with OSRS

>>717752068
No? I don’t think so just “content” creators players looking to leech onto something new. Tbh I wish wow didn’t go to shit and had all the faggots move to ffxiv, they are a cancer

>>717751556
Nta but sadly posing clothing sucks because there are no bones on the pieces, I think the person just spawned a clone of Sphene with invisible skin and rotated so the shorts would be upside down. What is worse to me in that pic are the Miqote eyes and tail.

Ok lads just done my upper body work out and now my arms, I can barely lift them so give me something good to watch while I recover, any FF14 videos that are good entertainment which have come out recently?

I'm a little worried that Katie is gonna try to turn Meracydia into an aboriginal worshipping woke zone.

>>717752375

>>717741034 (OP)
Patch development is gonna be delayed even further due to the quarter financials as they will have to cut down on devs in order to appease their shareholders so that they may get their cut Even though theyre still " up ", you know how it works in the current day and age, after all, the numbers must go up.
Have a nice day.

>>717752640
What's guaranteed is that other projects will suffer in order to ensure that the 4 hacks of SE gets to continue unabated.

>>717752375
>Alphinaud: we need the help of these people but no one wants to talk to us!
>Alisaie: I know exactly who can help!
>*new quest jingle*
>Speak with Wuk Lamat
I'll chargeback the expansion if this happens

in the part where spleen is healing lightning kid's mom WoL also helps heal if you are a healer, that's cool

>>717752823
Yea they are starting to add more of the wol doing stuff instead of us just sitting there like a frog on a log

>>717752068
nah, it's just the new game to shill like xiv in shb/ew

>>717752823
8 years later they remembered what they said about Stormblood.

>>717752823
Not a new thing, but glad they're bringing it back. Sometimes they just neglect it.

>>717752375
I hope so. The only value remaining in this game is as a containment pen from the rest of the internet. The more woke it gets, the better.

Stuck with this nerd until at minimum 7.55

>>717750803
It's because the lizards, especially Bakool Ja Ja, were the only interesting male characters they could latch onto. Had Erenville been more interesting or had there been a new hot guy from another race, they would have obsessed over him. Monsterfucking is popular, but it's always the last resort: if there are "normal" humanoid characters available, fujos will always go for those first, because it activates their "I wish a man like him existed in my life" part of the brain.

>>717753016
Asahi was a true hater, especially because he thought we were "distracting" his beloved Zenos and ruining his plans. He was a petty jealous bitch. Calyx instead seems scared, kind of like Thordan was: he underestimated us, he doesn't fully understand what we are anymore, and he is probably afraid of meeting us again because we showed him that we can beat him and his masterplans.

>>717743412
take your meds

>>717753275
t. Asahi

>>717753016
probably into 8.0
he's probably who's going to lead us to the winterer fags

>>717743865
When DT was being made the woke shit was at it's peak and Square still was very close to Sony. It was obvious that after EW they would push this crap as far as they could.
Also CBU3 was busy making FF16 and are also in charge of making the new Main FF, the main team that worked on 14 are not working in DT anymore.

>>717753767
We probably get to see who the robed fuck is aswell, only like two left we don’t know if they dead or not. Old image but guessing it’s Pashtarot

7.3 was back to how stuff used to be for the most part and there was more effort put into the actual way it was presented. Lots of new songs, Wuk seemingly shelved at the end.
Dungeon and trial taking the first steps at shaking some of the combat formula up.
I can believe they're working on making things better.

>>717743865
>>717754000
After seeing the current backlash to woke culture and how poorly 7.0 was received, they'd have to be retarded to double down. Or strongarmed by SE higherups.

>>717754117
>We probably get to see who the robed fuck is aswell
Here is your little bundle of chaos.

I still disagree with the sundering

>>717754183
Maybe its CHAOS

I really hope the entire cast who has ties to Dawntrail will be shelved as 'local' NPCs. Wuk, Erenville, Sphene, Krile, all of Tuliyolla and Alexandria... I want it all gone. I never want to talk about tacos, see these fucking S9 neon lights again. I don't want to hear about Krile's parents or any other Milala shit ever again. We completely memory hole whatever happened and start anew.

>>717754183
You can't tell me this isn't just a mod

>>717743235
I hope he gets another life-changing event soon.

>>717754465
It's the NPC data for the Ascian in the cutscene.
Probably not final design. It's fairly basic/default customization. But it is curious that is is an au ra.
(Usually, it's a hyur)

>>717754302
Fuck you you fucking piece of shit retard for even bringing up something good in a conversation about this piece of shit trash videogame

>>717754465
It isn’t, friend also looked to see what they looked like

I wonder why they put the glitch cubes over its face.
She.. he.. it.. Necron's face looks good.

>>717754836
for her i would turn evil and the world of sunder in CHAOS

>>717754836
>>717754183
>another anime tier teenage villain
Can we stop this shit already?

>>717754889
Is that the Alexandrian statue in Living Memory's face?

>>717754889
I'm sad that they turned Necron's awesome tits into rock-hard pecs.
And no, you can't tell me those aren't supposed to be tits, because they 100% look like tits.

>>717754967
Yea.

>>717755073
Genuinely, I had no idea Necron had tits until now.

>>717754915
Pretty sure it’s just filler anon, when have their masked versions ever looked like their real selves?

>>717755206
Still some what the same

>>717755230
True, but there must be a reason they used an F AuRa for that, which tells us at least that the villains needs to be the most dainty possible female body type.

>>717743235
>OH PLEASE ASK ME ABOUT THE LIFE CHANGING EVENT :) :) :)

I hate this fucker so much. Completely ruined the game with his failed theatre kid ass.

>>717741034 (OP)
they're still insisting on wuk lamat huh good thing i stopped playing at the end of DT

>>717753275
There is absolutely no reason to be afraid of the WoL from Calyx's point of view. Yeah, WoL took the final plunge (or shot) at the database, but if it wasn't for Sphene doing the pep talk to the Alexandrians, everyone would have been dead. After that, it was Wuk who broke the fucking shield and it was Y'shtola who suggested her to do that. And Alisaie was the one who put the final blow to Necron after it was weakened. I honestly don't even know what the WoL was doing during that entire altercation other than blocking one of the primals arms alongside Wuk.
It would have been legit better if it was the WoL who got their hands bloody while trying to crack the shield.

>>717755731
Funny how we continue to have the glory stolen by the retard cat

>>717754915
My money is on it's fake
At no point in the entire game's history have they used the real model for a new character during their reveal. When Wuk was first introduced we only got to see her lower half, which people extracted and saw that the model was literally just the bottom half from the waist down and no upper body
I forget what other character it was but definitely an ascian. When they introduced them people again extracted the model and it was the default human male model

>>717755731
>>717755861
>make WoL destroy the shield and Wuk the core
>"wtf why did the retarded tranny cat steal the kill didnt square learn???"
>"wtf why is calyx afraid of wuk they really have no remorse about yawntrail"

>>717755861
Nah, the custscene very much set out to make the WoL be the hero by them being the only one to not suffer the purple grape gas and be the one to deliver the finishing blow. It is just like modern action slop movies: Once you stop and think for a moment it makes no sense. I don't know what the WoL did during any of that other than standing around.
>>717755994
Yeah of course people would have complained endlessly about that. But even if you go by the Calyx got PTSD angle, imagine a completely enraged WoL just bashing against your door, so far that their hands are bloody for a minute or so leaves so much more an impression than the guy who took the final shot.

I know why they did the cutscene the way they did, but like everything in DT it makes 0 sense and is shit drama.

>Yoshida during EW: The Ascians aren't gonna be involved anymore because the Hydaelyn-Zodiark arc is over. They may turn up in raid content though.
>Fast forward to 7.3: *Ascians were behind Calyx's bullshit and he may be an Ascian himself*

>>717756189
I agree. The Yoshida inside of my head also said Ascians would never again be relevant.

>>717756189
>Yoshida during EW: The Ascians aren't gonna be involved anymore
He never said this btw.

>>717755731
Calyx is a fucking retard with a huge ego, anyone smart should have been very wary of the person that saved like 5 nations and the whole universe

>>717755731
>There is absolutely no reason to be afraid of the WoL from Calyx's point of view
Really? Calyx watched WoL shrug off a concentrated blast of pure lighting aether that was drawn from the entirety of Solution 9 and then spied on him after 7.2. I think he knows that WoL is the last line of defence and knows that if WoL gets serious, he's fucked. That's why he shits his pants.

>>717756189
Anon, Yoshida literally said before DT dropped that we need to remember the names of the 14 seats and the Ascians that remain.
Everyone before 7.0 was saying Sphene was probably going to be Altima due to the symbols.
Everyone after 7.0 was saying Ascians were definitely involved somehow with the Storm Surge, the Endless (pseudo-Ascians), etc.

Why have they kept all the robots around after multiple instances of them going around killing people

>>717755731
>There is absolutely no reason to be afraid of the WoL from Calyx's point of view.
Besides the "would 100% have killed me in a way I cannot recover from because I don't even have a soul" thing, and the "destroyed my flawlessly designed primal through his help eliminating its source of worship, even then could probably have theoretically fought it until the Ninth was drained dry" part

>>717756187
>I don't know what the WoL did during any of that other than standing around.
My wol was gathering his strength after fighting necron so we can do the final blow. Aka aura farming

>>717745924
I should have seen the writing on the wall in every patch with her and fuckstick faggot dragon boy and his, by all metrics, non issues.

>>717756446
He said that their past shenanigans will get revealed along with the consequences. Not that they'd once again be the main baddies.

>>717756189
>just making up shit
Even did he even say this? Pretty sure he said the zodiark vs hydaelyn story was over

>>717750683
>left shtola out of 90% of the expansion
>turned the remaining scions into wuk cheerleaders
Nobody got off scott-free in Dawntrail.

>>717756575
it's pretty obvious they're the main baddies alongside the winterers
more ascians was already foreshadowed with fandaniel, makes no sense he'd be the only mystery nigga with his own motives

>>717756626
It's pretty by-the-books "I believed Yoshida in an interview implicitly and then got mad when he went against it later or it wasn't true" stuff even if he did say it.

>>717756659
tbf that's business as usual for Y'shtola
Writers HATE her

>>717752375
She literally can't cause the Aboriginal council can't agree on anything except "fuck whitey, gitoffmaland". She's gonna botch it and Australia's gonna sue another big gaming company and win.

>>717756575
Did he? All he said was to remember their names and which of them would likely still be around.
And there's honestly nothing wrong with Ascian baddies as there's nothing really separating them from regular baddies other than their knowledge of the past and the structure of the world.
It would be a problem if these were Zodiark adherents still trying to make the rejoining happen for Zodiark/the Ancients.

>>717756757
What'd she do to them. Be desirable?

>>717756575
>Not that they'd once again be the main baddies.
He neither said if they would be or not, so it's weird that people would draw that conclusion

>>717756940
Think back to when Island Sanctuary was at absolutely no point implied to be Mini Harvest Moon and Yoshida said "curb your expectations" and then people got mad it wasn't the thing it wasn't stated to be anywhere

The only thing I know for sure that YoshiP has said is that he cries when fans say thank you and he cries when he sees cross-dressing high school boys crossing zebra stripes.

>>717756757
I can already see the discussions
>Hiroi: "And then we find out that Krile is actually from the 9th and has been brought here by her parents and adopted by her Grandpa. Her real name is Maya."
>whoever the fuck is at the story meeting: "Very good story! Much like FFV, we like!"
>that one fuck that wrote 6.1 and made her bikini in his off time: "Y'shtola can see aether and the souls of other reflections have a different density..."
>Hiroi: "Fakku this catto!!! My brilliant plot. Can we just kill her for the expansion?"
>Hasegawa from the Merchanside department just points at the merch sales of the character.
>Hiroi: "Fakku this haggu! Fine, so Kriles parents were ORIGINALLY from the source, then went to the ninth and then returned Krile."
Her having actually useful and plot relevant powers keeps her out of the plot.

>>717745491
I have probably made upwards of 50+ posts in a thread before probably due to responding to people when having a debate or something. Like Dark Souls 2 threads are usually me with my 500IQ intellect having to school all the retards who say the game is good actually.

>>717756935
Unironically yes. She is an attractive female character that men like. Thus, she must be sidelined.

>>717756940
He cheekily refrained from commenting either way.
Mainly because he doesn't want to tacitly confirm things about a story that at the time had yet to be released.

>>717757070
guy who thinks often about cross-dressing high school boys

>>717757291
i still need to do the raid

>>717757339
It’s very fun

>>717742938
The difference in texture quality between different objects in this game is so fucking bizarre. I mean yes I understand the game is over a decade old but even in the newest content some of the brand new stuff has nice smooth competent texture work and then other stuff looks like upsized native PlayStation 2 textures.

>>717741034 (OP)
Step 1: ban all the cheaters
Step 2: ????
Step 3: kys

>>717757471
cheater talk in this game is funny
only places it would theoretically matter are ranked pvp (bragging rights) and ultimate raids (bragging rights)

>>717757384
Is it harder than the first part?

>>717741034 (OP)
By leaving it on its current course and letting it return to a chill niche MMO with low but steady player numbers like it was back in the pre-Stormblood days.

Every single problem with the game being complained about in this thread is a direct result of mass normie adoption and demand.

>>717757572
Yea it really doesn’t matter for a majority not players

>>717757653
Yes, raid wides fucking hurt especially on the 3rd boss but if you have gamers it should be easy

>>717757754
Fug.
Well, should be fun. But I'll probably eat curb because I'm a casual fag.

>>717757653
noticeably so

>>717757674
gatherbots have ruined the entire game's useless economy

>>717757471
What is there even to cheat at in FFXIV?

>>717756935
this looks awful what the hell

>>717757825
Ah shit I'm gonna get my ass whipped. Thanks.

>>717757847
Gil really doesn’t matter in this game anon, unless you want to buy a house. It’s really just to make crafting easier, buy dyes, and buy outfits.

>>717757847
Even before proliferation of gatherbots your only real major sources of profit are
>crafted gear
>raid food/tinctures-potions
>glamour sets
>raw materials for other crafters
With the vast majority of potential profit being made within the first weeks of expansion launches and patches that add items

>>717757653
Honestly it's hard enough that I'm surprised it's normal content. It's not quite savage tier but it's harder than any other normal raid in the game, alliance or other wise.

That being said I recommend running it before they nerf the difficulty because I'm 95% confident that they will after enough casualfags bitch about the difficulty and how they can't clear it and get their weekly gear coin.

>>717741034 (OP)
Dawntrail killed 40% of 14's players was it? I find it hard to believe that Hiroi is still lead writer.

>>717754117
I'm gonna go ahead and call that image bullshit given that it's claiming Giaus killed fandaniel

>>717758072
>I'm 95% confident that they will after enough casualfags bitch about the difficulty and how they can't clear it and get their weekly gear coin.
Unironically I don't think they're gonna nerf anything instance-wise for the foreseeable future since they talked about wanting to "reintroduce friction" and people complained the Twelve were too easy as an alliance raid after supposedly modeling its difficulty on launch Ivalice (and they were right, Myths of the Twelve was easy)

>>717757967
>gil doesn't matter except if you want a house, or if you engage in crafting or buy dyes and buy outfits.

>>717758072
Nah, power creep will kill the difficulty just like it does in all of FFXIV's normal content. Ask anyone who was there when the other alliance raids were new and the difficulty was similar, hell I'd argue that the ShB/Nier alliance raids were harder when they were new.

The only exception was Endwalker's alliance raids. Those were always piss easy.

>>717758072
The fuck are you talking about? The third boss is hard for exactly one reason and that is because he sneaks the half room cleave on you. Don't try to make an orbonne monastery out of that, none of the mechanics are remotely close.

>>717749629
>was more appealing to look at and less awful to talk to than wuk lamat

well, yeah, her character was as shit as Wuk Lamat but at least she can look good while giving you a blowjob. I think that's the problem with wuk lamat character

>>717758475
He keeps murdering most of the alliances with that. Its funny.

>>717758331
I still see wipes fairly regularly in Dun Scaith and The Puppet's Bunker lol.

>look up San d'Oria on Youtube
>Ronfaure starts playing
Kino
I am a giga secondary that only knows this song and this song alone because of Theatrhythm

>>717758936
People will never be good at Dun Scaith's first boss or last one.

>>717758721
I was bored so...
>krile mayer baldesion (ff14)
>zero (ffxiv) 81
>wuk lamat 110
>yugiri mistwalker 173
>lyse hext 324
>alisaie leveilleur 910
>y'shtola_rhul 3048

>urianger augurelt 23
>estinien varlineau 30
>zenos yae galvus 46
>thancred waters 56
>emet-selch 70
>g'raha tia 143
>alphinaud leveilleur 386

>>717754183
>Hiroi gets rid of one shitty forced waifu to introduce another shitty forced waifu
Fake or not. You just know this is going to be the case.

Every day I think if I should resub or not.
Every day I remember I don't like the gameplay anymore or care about the current plot.
Maybe I'll just emulate some older jrpg.

>>717759183
>krile mayer baldesion (ff14) 30*

>>717759210
better not bank too hard on that before it doesn't happen and you look silly on the internet

>>717758072
I'll try it out soon. Given that I'm not really anyone who does harder than normal raid stuff, lol, really.

>>717759249
just play Chrono Trigger

>>717759183
Who is drawing wuk porn. I thought furries disliked her

>>717759343
that's the thing
4chan is anonymous so if you say something dumb and insist on it and it never happens, you can just memory hole it and not be laughed at because you can just never mention it again.
If you end up being right, you can however ride it for the next 10 years.

>>717758157
The image was made before the Elidibus fight and Fandaniel's appearance.
But also there's a fair chance that none of the Ascians that Gaius collected masks from were actually permakilled since he had neither a means to trap them nor to generate an aetheric "blade of light" to finish off their soulform. Plus anyone that we killed before Emet-Selch and Elidibus were gone could theoretically have been re-raised by them from another reflection.

>>717759817
knowing that gaius tussled with fandaniel makes me wonder
what did he behave like at that time? just a regular ascian mook? did he hide his powerlevel entirely until elidibus bit it?

>>717754183
Definitely a placeholder. But
>The Blindfrost is a body of water to the north of Othard in the Far East and extends to the shores of Ilsabard
Winterer and she looks likes a Jap?

>>717754828
if it were that bad jack would be beating you senseless for going anywhere near it

They need to rework the jobs and go and more tune older content for proper progression again. Trusts is no excuse to have utter faceroll dungeons and the reason people whine about any sort of challenge is because they don't progress the difficulty at all anymore.
It used to be, back in ARR, that the dungeons added new challenges and AV was the true gated test of knowledge and skill. Normal primals were easy, hard added and expanded, and extremes added further in a fair way.
Doesn't help they design savage/extreme first, so you get really wonky design in current fights sometimes. Like p11s and p11n being basically different fights entirely.

>>717759183
Surprised its so little fujo porn. Also, Y'shtola has more than the rest combined.

>>717752068
Yearly end-game content just dropped, otherwise no. Sailing in a couple of months, but why would anyone outside the existing OSRS community care?

>>717760293
If thats r34 men don't add the fujo porn

>>717760129
Yeah, I don't think anyone believes it's a final design, but the choice of Au Ra alone for the body does make one think.

>>717760225
>proper progression again
>faceroll dungeons
Lad... the dungeons and trials were always facerolls before Hard and EX introduced
Devs even joked about Ultima Weapon Unreal being the first time most of its mechanics were seen normally because they undertuned the hell out of it

>>717752068
OSRS is where the revolving door of WoW streamers has been going because one MMO can't actually sustain a streamer's career

im unironically just watching MSQ shit on youtube and buying the story skip next expansion
that is if the new expansion is actually promising
on that note, anyone know when the story skips go up on the shop during an expansion launch? im already dreading the huge delay in delivery but its worth it to not have to deal with tulalololol a second longer than i have to

>>717752460
>760mb
That's smalltime.

>>717761252
maidenless behavior

>>717761313
Anon, you're small time

>>717761348
Oooh-pfhahahah.
Writhe in my thread of shitposts, my friend.

>>717760369
Nah. If you think it was always the case, you were not here in the ARR or HW days.

Actually really looking forward to 7.4 and 7.5 MSQ to see where they're going with it. How they'll build up to 8.0 and fill the gap between. Especially now we don't have a trial series but trials are still expected.

>>717741034 (OP)
Just make a new game, XIV has had its time in the sun. I hate raid finder, I hate WoW MMO model faggotry, kick all those players who enjoy bad things the fuck out and make a new MMO more like XI. It will never make the money XIV did because the WoW model is so lucrative, so just scale back production. I don't need amazing graphics in an MMO, I want a world that feels lived in and going back to overworld leveling as the primary way to level up instead of instanced dungeons, the most homosexual way to grind.

>>717747450
>>717747493
Which are vastly over the real amount now that we can compare to previous LB and PlayerScope numbers. If LB is counting 870k chances are it's probably half that.

>>717761569
everybody being worse at the game =/= stuff was harder back then, this is easy to fact-check with minimum item-level runs on dungeons or MINE on EX trials; even accounting for some nuke jobs like RDM that ARR wasn't balanced for, they wouldn't completely trivialize something like shiva EX or ramuh EX with over-potency

>>717759210
If they learned their lesson, Hiroi will be soon locked away in a basement to do menial tasks until he willingly resigns. No way in hell they will keep him as the main writer, dude almost killed the game with his shitty writing and Mary Sues.

>>717761751
man we're gonna be beating the hiroi dead horse until 8.3 at this rate

>>717761569
The hardest thing about EX content in ARR was the servers were so shit you had very little room for error. Once they got servers that weren't run on hamster wheels and potatoes it was simple. It was so funny having a Brazilian in my ARR static who kept getting owned by Titan Landslides, then the day they got real servers we did it and he didn't hit a single one. I thought he was going to cry over mumble because of how relieved he was that he wasn't (that) bad.

>>717759210
She can't possibly be worse than Wuk. We can only improve from here. R-Right?

>>717758475
Nigger have you even played Orbonne recently, it's not even that hard.

>>717761806
Well yeah until there is a new lead writer confirmed people will blame him for the bad writing.

>>717761569
>ARR or HW
You have to be retarded if you think Dungeons had any kind of proper progression during either of those fucking eras of the game. Barring maybe the launch of ARR when most of the newer 2.0 gear was still being farmed on non-legacy the majority of dungeon gear was useless. The Tome system was already well underway and the CT 24man series provided decent gear barring CoB. What fucking progression did something like Keeper, Satasha Hard or Amdpapor Hard offer on their release? The only time dungeons offered progression were doing 1.0 with its version of Cutter's Cry, Aurum Vale and Dzemael.

>>717761806
try 10.3

>>717758164
It’s only used for crafting if your lazy and don’t want to be a Omni crafter

>>717762019
eventually even the people sqwacking about hiroi for months will get tired of themselves as it drags on into years. they might be forced to put up or shut up about leaving the game lest they're rooted out of it and chased off like mrhappy back in HW or SB

>>717761806
And why shouldn't we? Dawntrail has twice the cutscene runtime of Heavensward and it manages to tell nothing during them. And Woke Lemutt has more spoken dialogue than most npc's combined in the entire fucking expansion. No other expansion had an imbalance that severe. No other expansion had been that poorly written, whatever failings they might have had, it had never reached such apocalyptic Dawntrail proportions, that the game is now dipping beneath Stormblood sub levels.

>>717759210

>>717762095
>i'll never forgive hiroi for how he wrote 7.0. when are they going to retcon it?
>grandpa we've been in westwolves for a year now, it's patch 11.25

>>717754889
They're there in place of the original's rorschach-like dots obscuring its face. I kinda like it.

>>717762068
>The only time dungeons offered progression were doing 1.0 with its version of Cutter's Cry, Aurum Vale and Dzemael.
As I recall it gave you better loot to just sprint past every monster and force your way to the end in 1.X too

>>717761806
All they need to do is ask Nomura to make concept art for another character so all writing complaints can shift to him.

>>717761569
Also, on your mention of ultima, the issue there was mostly that it was tuned for having i40 to i45 gear, mainly leveling crap and your artifact gear.
The ilvl sync was like 70 or some shit.
>>717761698
>worse at the game
Anon, stop pretending that everyone playing ARR was new to mmos. If anything, the average player has gotten worse these days. Just look at any time something remotely punishing slips into "casual" content and how fast people cry.
Like that one EW story duty that only expected a smidge of careful play, but retards didn't learn from the one required fight at the start that you could not just unga it.
>MINE
Not applicable. Between all the adjustments to numbers (like the big stat crunch) and job changes over the years, you're not getting the legitimate experience.
>>717761828
I'm not even talking about them being exceptionally hard, but that they were a natural progression step up.
Going from hard to extreme took learning, but it wasn't a massive mechanical change to most of the fight.
>>717762068
Please read what I posted. I was not talking about gear at all. Because, yes, the gear system has always been shit (but still somehow got worse)

>>717762157
>why shouldn't we be insufferable twats for years
>woke
>the numbers, jerry
Average Twitter checkmark

>>717761920

Only time will tell. However, for SE and FFXIV's sake, I hope so. This game won't survive another Wuk Lamat.

>>717762342
>MINE
>Not applicable. Between all the adjustments to numbers (like the big stat crunch) and job changes over the years
Stat crunch did little or nothing for ARR/HW content
Most jobs still have similar potency values as their available skills did back in the day because you don't have most of the skill/spell mastery traits that buff them yet
MINE it, pussy

>>717762201
>Westwolves in 11.0
POGGGGG

>>717758157
We thought it was Fandaniel at the time because one of the masks is shaped like a lion's face and Fandaniel represents Leo. But we were told much later that Gaius had Deudalaphon and Altima's masks.

>>717762347
They hired SweetBaby and Geogrify and as a result Tural had been completely infantilized. Enjoying those rubber bullets?

>>717762119
brother zodiark trancers have been crying about venat for 3 years now
xivfags have been making dragoon floor tank jokes and other shit for 10 years now

>>717762342
>Also, on your mention of ultima, the issue there was mostly that it was tuned for having i40 to i45 gear, mainly leveling crap and your artifact gear.
It wasn't hard even on-ilevel, which is why Yoshida and Foxclon joked about it.

>>717741034 (OP)
It's just the inevitable downfall. No game can last forever. It's been 12 years, pretty decent run, but it's over.

>>717762601
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO UR BARRY UR BARRY SAMEFAGGING

>>717762285
You had to kill the mobs still aside from a couple times you could cheese zoning, but you only got the speedrun chest with a Darklight piece if you made it in like 20 min, which took the whole crew in pentamelded near or at BiS. Aurum Vale was fun because you'd go as a normal party until Coincounter, then everyone job changed to Monk for the last push because Hundred Fist melted the malboro. 1.0 was shit overall but I do miss some ideas they had.

>>717762239
ooh, fair point
still a shame that it kinda covers up the meso terminal face features

>>717762601
Two more weeks.

>>717762479
No anon, it really did change a lot. MINE CT still skips most mechanics and the proof exists.
>>717762575
True, they really didn't handle the whole thing well at all. 8 man dungeon was cool, but it was too long and boring (and awkward for newbies)

>>717762570
oh i'm aware. even zodiark trancers got tired of themselves for the most part. the names you see on twitter that have been bleating about it since endwalker are reviled even in their own circles as mentally ill broken records. it's why athenaareia got clocked instantly by the reddits he tries to establish himself in and his ~2,000 subscriber count is only translating to 500-750 views per video he may genuinely get more attention from /v/ reposts than from his actual intended audience

jokes are jokes, complaints are complaints, people get tired of the same complaint on endless loop much faster than the same joke brought up when appropriate

>>717762601
Pretty much this, every MMO I played in my youth is dead now. Only Blizz can keep a game going for long cause they put like 80% of their company into WoW.

>>717754889
>tags: breast_squish, string_bikini

>>717762632
what?

>>717762846
BASED

>>717762756
I guess so, but if something is clear to me, it's that FFXIV fags really, really don't let things go. Whether it's positive or negative.
Not Haurchefant, not Lyse.

>>717762767
That is a good point as well. FFXIV has been disengaged by the company itself. They are not reinvesting back into the game, and have the "A" team of business unit 3 working on other projects.

>>717760129
>Aerslaent
>Ilsabard
>Hokkaido
Winterwolves...

>>717745924
Zero was fucking terrible. Every single patch she learned that friendship was a thing all over again and reacted the same way "huh le friendship??? what is that?" She did this for atleast 3 fucking patches, her character progression reset each time. I don't get why everyone ignores this dogshit.

>>717763403
I didn't ignore it but I got called a trancer and had gibberish spammed at me every time I tried to talk about how retarded that whole storyline was.

>>717763403
cause she's hot to someone.

>>717759210
Its funny gooners keep saying this is a fujo game and keep begging for more female characters but the moment we get them (Zero, Wuk) its NOO

>>717763583
>Wuk

>>717751398
How would sphene go to the castle town you fucking retard? Real Sphene wasn't with us and AI Sphene was the villian, what the fuck are you talking about. Your post reads like you learned the story by skimming these threads but were too retarded to actually string it together.

>>717763490
doubt it unless you were using some specific keywords and handshakes that gave off the same smell

>>717763403

Be kind to Zero, she's slow.

i haven't played since early HW
what did i miss
is now a good time to hop back in

>>717747352
It's called "Blackrock Money".

>>717764076
yeah great time to hop in.

>>717753378
wtf dont open my locker

>>717764076
>what did i miss
samurai, red mage, dancer, gunbreaker (ff8 gunblades), reaper (scythes), sage (gundam lasers), viper (twin swords + twinblades), pictomancer (paint brushes)
a big WoW migration from some key streamers which destroyed some of their careers because they couldn't be normal
total garlemald death
some absolute kinography from garleaboos turned ascianboos having years long sustained meltdowns at how the story panned out
some of the best shitposting 4chan has ever experienced
surprisingly high number of QoL updates
raids got boring and stale, then got better again
they're promising a focus on job design quality for next expansion
TP and accuracy are gone

>>717764340
>they're promising a focus on job design quality for next expansion
They've literally never said that. It was a mistranslation you coping faggots have been clinging on to for over a year now.

>>717764340
Man this is some optimism right here especially when PlayerScope last revealed the game was at 560k remaining paying players and revenue dropping by 45%

>>717764449
You're thinking of Eksu Plosion reading off a mistranslated article and saying the job reworks were coming in 7.2, that was clarified in a 7.0 or 7.1 live letter to my memory.

>>717764449
It's funny because they probably won't do anything and it will totally kill the game unless the story is literally immaculate.

>>717763763
Said keywords and handshakes being "criticize EW at all".

>>717764340
>calling other people WoW migrants while you reveal yourself to be from /wowg/
Really an incredible lack of self awareness from our favorite little buddy, but that's par for the course.

>>717764565
>completely neutral read-off of shit that's happened since early HW
>wow you think this DEAD GAME is doing great huh???
angelica pickles and famitsu eric threads had a fucking baby on this one

>>717764806
Lmao.

>>717764773
Tbf most ARRfags are just WoWfags and even if XIV is their first MMO for all intents and purposes their attitudes/behaviors are pretty just WoWfag attitudes/behaviors. Legacy players are the only ones where this doesn't apply.

>>717764883
Careful, friend, that's somebody that failed to make it big as an /xivg/ thread ebin you're talking to.

>Get rid of garbage item mall monetization dependency. Make repeating holiday items available in game when their holiday comes up.
>Minimize or eliminate tedious grind, add QoL, especially for now outdated content which only grants aesthetic benefits. Return most items no longer available for one reason or another to the game somehow; a big part of a long term MMO is getting away from FOMO shit which keeps more players from coming back than it does retain old ones.
>Add depth and variation to the classes, story, and mechanics.
>Fix shit like the cumbersome older systems like glamour to an account wide "acquire it and check off what you have into a database, now you can apply/summon/use etc...it again"
There's a lot of little ways to make the game better

>>717764119
i trust you
>>717764340
that's a lot
i guess it has been a decade
>TP and accuracy are gone
wack
but also good

>>717762119
>ARISE TARNISHED
>YE DEAD THAT YET LIVE

>>717764883
True
>>717764935
I've never been to /vg/, but I can post some screencaps of you defending /xivg/ if you'd like.

>>717764976
but anon, if you take away all the holiday and pvp FOMO rewards the money will be sad!

>>717764976
>make what is essentially a brand new game and remove kikery from a game that lost about half its profits
I'm sure SE loves this idea for XIV

>>717765095
>I've never been to /vg/, but I keep receipts on "you" (wink wink) like a failed /vg/ ebin
Fascinating.

>>717764976
>Fix shit like the cumbersome older systems like glamour to an account wide
they would never. it is literally impossible to do for them

>>717744932
I cant believe the threads resemble the game, who could have predicted this

>>717762119
>they might be forced to put up or shut up about leaving the game lest they're rooted out of it and chased off like mrhappy back in HW or SB
I love when you try to throw random trivia in to make it appear like you know something and you get it completely wrong because you learned it through a decade-long game of telephone. It's always good comedy.

>>717764976
>remove grind
Fuck right off. Old relics and shit are already vastly easier than they were prior. Those weapons maintain their appeal because they take effort.
>depth and variation to jobs
Yes, 110%. If they don't start doing this, the game is going to bleed out players.
>fix glamour
Also a big yes.

>>717764076
>is now a good time to hop back in
Majority of the playerbase has unsubbed and quit cause of this expansion. What do you fucking think?

Ugh, this demiatma farm is bullshit.
When are they gonna learn that this shit doesn't respect our time?

>>717765192
What a bizarre and inconsequential thing to get upset about. I sure hope you're not that Techopse lunatic found last night.

>>717745457
I'm actually the artbook dumper, one of the lorefags, and the legacyfag (actually there are two of us that post frequently here).
There are probably only 5 or 6 posters in these threads on average.

>>717765210
>game is going to bleed out players
Nigga the game is nearing sub 500k. We already know LB is vastly overcounting cause of the stalker addon. It's hemorrhaging players. Also what depth and variation at this point? Any meaningful changes to jobs would require reworking all existing content.

>>717745457
which one of these is likeliest to go on a screaming tantrum when they get banned for spamming?

>>717765303
Laughing at you being a retard doesn't mean I'm upset. Tell your fellow blueskyfags to get a new cope.

>>717765317
thoughts on current lore situation? I feel like EW killed all the mysteries of the world by overexplaining everything and making the Ancients the answer to all that exists currently
also post more speen

>>717745457
I'm one of the lorefags and an OC whiner

>>717765396
Probably the dude who dumps his image folders and then replies to himself defending the game while never actually talking about the game. He tends to get mad if you try and move the conversation away from him.

>>717765380
>We already know LB is vastly overcounting cause of the stalker addon.
The stalker addon got an official Cease & Desist, and I'm not sure it works anymore.

>>717765227
i think that i have plenty of time to catch up on content before their panicked attempt at course correction for the next expac
and also that i have been wanting to get back into an mmo

>>717765492
found him

>>717764076
Ehhh. If you want to see how the Ascian saga ends, finish Endwalker and then stop. That was the game's unofficial true ending anyway. They're trying to build up a new saga, but Dawntrail literally killed any hype and hopes the players had and it's clear as day that the devs, YoshiP included, aren't as heavily involved in the game as before. I get it, they've been working on the same shit for ten years, so it's normal to be tired and fed up with the whole cycle. If 8.0 doesn't deliver, it's over, and keep in mind that ShB's success cannot be replicated, no matter how much Square tries. There is no Covid or mass exodus bringing the player count to 1M this time.

>>717764883
My first MMO was Mu Online. Your move.

>>717765410
Having to announce you're upset means you are. You threw out Bluesky as a boogeyman website. Settle down.

>>717765673
Oops, minor grammatical error. Announcing you're not upset. I've lost forever and I'm gay.

>>717765514
Then why ask if your mind is set?

>>717765380
And it'll get way worse. That's my point.

>>717764976
>minimize grind
Actually kill yourself, what we need is more grind but not complete rng grind like the current relics. I did eureka late and it was one of the most fun things I did in this game.
KYS if you are someone who thinks mmos should have no grind.

>>717765497
They shelved the source code and won't update it further. Anyone that still has it is free to still work on it but yeah SE C&D'd that thing cause it leaked the actual numbers due to their need to broadcast all UIDs currently active on their servers.

>>717765461
I think EW and DT were both disasters for the lore in their respective ways, but while DT was more damaging to the overall atmosphere of the world and writing, EW definitely did more damage to the central lore. I'm glad primals are back and I'm cautiously optimistic about Calyx and the Winterwolves.
I don't have a lot of speen but I thought that expression was too cute not to capture.

>>717765380
If they can rework existing content to appeal to braindead niggers and their cancer of a trust system, they can rework it to make it more fun or revert the abysmal changes.

>>717765673
>Having to announce you're upset means you are.
I'm calling you a retard for coping about how people laughing at you are actually totally mad grrrrr!
>You threw out Bluesky as a boogeyman website.
lol you just tried this bullshit where you called me some random twitter freak you pulled out of a hat. Get some self awareness you dog raping freak.

>>717743005
>>717743302
>farting
what the fuck are you on about?

>>717766167
>no i'm still not upset i'm in control actually lol lmao freak
you lost

>>717765246
>I have to play the game!?
S T F U
T
F
U

>>717766230
>STOP LAUGHING AT ME LAUGHING AT ME MEANS YOU'RE MAD!!!!!!!!
Member when you thought this was Midna because you don't actually play the game? LMAOOO

>>717763583
>Wuk
Yeah I'm not attracted to animals that's why.
Also I had a waifu in real Sphene and they have taken her away from me so what now?

>>717766084
The amount of damage endwalker did by handwaving away a lot of major problems and giving us a fucking elevator to the afterlife can't be overstated. Offscreen'd the empire threw away zodiark after 10 years of build-up to make space for last moment le depressed man and his le depressed bird. It also introduced yet another form of time travel with a different ruleset compared to the one the crystal exarch does, and it also fucking ruined a bunch of other lore stuff I can't currently remember.
God I hate endwalker.

>>717766357
>threw away zodiark after 10 years of build-up
Once again you killed his brain in 5.3

>>717766357
>It also introduced yet another form of time travel with a different ruleset compared to the one the crystal exarch does
It's Alexander's ruleset, it's not new, G'raha's circumstances were said to be impossible and he fully expected to fade and die because his timeline shouldn't exist anymore.

>>717765582
i barely even remember who the ascians are. they're the shadow niggas or whatever who are basically anti-scions or something right?
>>717765872
i don't think my mind is set, ffxiv is just the mmo i'm most familiar with outside of runescape, but osrs doesn't really capture what RS used to be like
i just wanted to hear if the content between when i quit and the this expac (which people seem to dislike) is cool to help me decide what mmo to play

>>717766357
Zodiark already got the greatest send-off in the entire game in 5.3. The one on the moon was just an empty shell after you killed the actual central core, Elidibus. And that was the peak of the game. I agree with pretty much everything else though.

>>717764340
forgot to mention: completely gutted jobs, all tanks play the same and healers are 1 button machines
enjoy

>>717766423
Yes and his body was still sitting on the moon as the strongest weapon in the universe with a bunch of people who would like to use it as such. Making him the lvl 93 trial el rotador was disappointing. Would have unironically preferred Zodiark going apeshit since it no longer had a clear force driving it.

>>717766423
anyone else could take over as his brain, they could've done a lot better with it in general, maybe by not shoving two expansions into one to shit out endwalker and let Zodiark be the ending of an expac

>>717766523
ShB time travel is the outlier here but because ShB is the golden child, it's okay that it asspulled its own time travel rules and just handwaved it.

>>717766612
But if they didn't do that we wouldn't be playing Dawntrail, the greatest expansion of all time, right now.

>>717766523
No? The exarch time travels to another timeline, you time travel back in your own timeline and create a loop.

Okay I'm leaving that in because halfway through typing that I realized it's similar to the one in the alexander raids. I'm still mad about 2 forms of time travel but now at ShB instead of endwalker. (time travel sucks at it's core anways)

>>717766554
>completely gutted jobs
*scholar's healing offload to the fairies got folded back into itself with the ACN skill removals, astrologian's buffs were dead for a long time but are semi back again, dark knight still can't figure out what it wants to be
>all tanks play the same
nah this ain't true, xenosys_vex crashes out every day that warrior and dark knight are the only two tanks that kinda play like eachother
>healers are 1 button machines
always were, there are healers that aren't prerework scholar you know

>>717766720
haha imagine hahah...

>>717766735
SEEK THE PEACE OF REASON YOU COCKSUCKER

>>717766357
the worst fucking part is the even the fucking twelve were reduced to more ancient wank

>>717766036
If you don't understand the difference between tedium "grind" and actual goals to accomplish, you're part of the problem. How did WildStar work out for as it shit itself into oblivion over retaining "grind". Eureka had more thought put into it and it its core design can be viable , but just like the skyforging/rebuilding , Bozja, various old Relic weapons (who's paths haven't changed since the old days when there was less content) and other content can be tweaked significantly to cut down on the RNG and other factors in deference that these no longer grant best in slot gear for its time and the game has moved on.

Performative bullshit about
>WE NEED HARDCORE MORE GRIND MAKE CONTENT ONLY 1.5% OF THE RAIDERS SHOULD SEE
or similar drives away potential players who feel they are only being kept around to ooh and ahh at the whales, or the raiders, or the rated PVPers or whatever the fuck else. Content that feels meaningful , challenging, enjoyable, and rewarding is far more important than grindy tedium.

>>717766735
You should be mad at ShB time travel.
>i should've disappeared and the summoning worn off but i am still here so i guess i carved my place into this new time teehee

>>717766754
>nah this ain't true
you can cope as much as you want but you can't deny reality
>always were
no, if you had played back in HW you'd know, see above

>>717766523
His timeline does exist based on the short story they released where midgardsormr wakes. There are still ascians, hydaelyn and meteion presumably in a doomed world and universe.

>>717766423
I don't get this argument, why is the body not important?

>>717764883
Think my first mmo was maplestory or mabinogi and I been playing since 2.0

>>717767029
the body is just a braindead meat mech
and in endwalker it was piloted by a suicidal maniac that wanted it to be destroyed

>>717766735
https://youtu.be/G3W8akmMC30?si=lDCWgkzGvj9vQXE8&t=1018
this is how the next time travel sequence should go down

>>717767029
The body is important as a lore entity, but it's not like that IS Zodiark. Elidibus was Zodiark's heart, mind, and soul. He was actually THE Zodiark, and he was given all the respect and kino that Zodiark deserved.

>>717766907
God forbid we have anything mysterious that isn't related to ascians. The devs' obsession with tying every plot point back into the same origin is genuine fucking cancer. Let things originate from different places and have different rules. The twelve raids series is a travesty.
also
>introduce 12 characters
>people like them
>kill off 11 of them instantly
>keep the one people gave the least amount of shit about
bravo
oh and
>people are now praying to a machine and the entire belief system of eorzea is completely fucked

>>717767029
How important is Shiva without Ysayle? How important is Hydaelyn without Venat?

>>717767140
>>717767126
So Fandaniel just gained power out of his own ass when he piloted Zodiark? Shut the fuck up you retards.

>>717766907
People thought the Twelve were gonna be super important some day? Or, like, relevant ever? I'm still surprised they got a whole alliance raid, even knowing it only exists because Endwalker was obsessed with bringing the larger setting to every possible endpoint.

I finally got my pc working long enough to log in. My house is demolished, I am free from digital rent. I am unconvinced to finish 7.0. I have canceled my subscription.

>>717767214
He gained the power of Zodiark (some of it), but that's just Zodiark's power as a lore entity. It's not like the real Zodiark was just casually tossed away as a leveling trial. The real Zodiark was the final boss of a whole expansion as mankind's first hero.

>>717767245
NTA but I’m pretty sure most people didn’t even think about them at all other than a starting option at the start of the game

Unnecessarily argumentative behavior.

>>717767308
Please never work as a writer for anything anyone cares about.

>>717767245
>>717767369
This is what endbryos actually believe.

>>717767383
Yea someone is being obtuse just for attention, it’s pretty easy to tell he is just being a faggot

Honestly, the worst part of FFXIV is easily the fanbase.

>>717767245
They shouldn't have, they could have been and should have been kept as beings we are not really sure about if they exist or not. Maybe small hints at most here and there. Making them real and just ascian jackoff was the worst possible route.

>>717767210
More like Shinryu without Zenos

I do wonder if they just don't want mindless monsters as trials, even Valigarmanda talked

>>717766735
i feel like time travel only works if you specifically design the story around it or you aren't taking the story seriously
sort of like >>717767137 or EDF6 going into competitive glue eating across time

>>717767573
Yeah, the ideal would have been to do what they were doing in the earlier game, where there are various hints to several possible origins. You don't even have to give them all the same origin
>some hints that one of them is an Ancient
>one is a misremembered Ascian
>one is an ancient primal whose worship evolved and carried into the modern day
>one is a deified Warrior of Light
>etc
>at most, hard confirm one or two if there's an interesting story to be told

>>717767369
Yeah I haven't thought about them whatsoever since those PvP sets themed after the Twelve. I thought it was kinda neat that the Twelve tend to use those weapons from those sets, or Althyk has a silver dyed Ragnarok relic weapon.
>>717767573
I feel the Twelve being potentially real deities or otherwise left as a question mark on their legitimacy isn't a good move either, it would defeat quite a lot of the setting to answer "yes" to their true divinity.

>>717767680
But mindless monsters can be cool with good setup. Zodiark going haywire without Elidibus would have been kino and much better than the final days "If you are sad you die" thing.
Wasn't Zenos' initial plan to just release Zodiark anyways? Or was it to use his power himself I don't exactly remember his main reason for going to the moon.

>>717749789
>>717749674
Emet recognizes you as Azem the moment he first sees you when you're running from Poojeet in Lakeland you fucking retards. None Emet's actions or dialogue make any sense if he figues it out at the very end. Seeing Azem just means that he sees you as an equal.

>>717767821
Zenos was going to control Zodiark like he did Shinryu, Fandaniel just beat him to it.

>>717767704
Yeah, you can't just insert time travel in the middle of a story, it always ruins it.

>>717767909
I imagine the setup might have been that Zenos was going to try to eat Hydaelyn to piece in on those themes of Light equaling stagnation and stasis from Shadowbringers, but lol WoW migrants speedrun the story to the end.

>>717767963

>>717767996
Yeah, eating Hydaelyn makes way more sense for him. WoL going to the moon and getting Zodiark's power to save Hydaelyn from him would have been kino.

>>717764076
Just play through EW and then stop.

Retcon Shadowbringers onward
Keep the time dilation so we can get back to kicking Garlemald's ass
Have the first climax of the story end with Zodiark's defeat
Save the Ancient, Twelve, and Endsinger for the actual climax of the game's story
Put the check in the mail AFTER I've saved ffxiv

>>717768070
It comes out of nowhere just to have repeat bosses so yea, it's not great

>>717768212
No.

>>717768212
Can we actually defeat Garlemald in this AU? I hated having to baby them and feed them in EW.

>>717767863
he recognizes the soul but doesn't think you are azem. You just have the shattered remnant of his friends soul

>>717768168
I don't think he'd have gotten Zodiark's power in turn, personally, I think killing Zodiark outright would have always been the plan, fits in better with the "WALK, NIGGER" themes and not crutching on the past

>>717766612
I do not get why they did that.
>6.0 is kicking garlean fucks in the dick
>Ends with Zodiark, and then you get a nice creepy "WHAT IS THAT?!?" to the patches featuring foreboding omens, ending with the "but the world refused to change' vibe when Meteion's voiceover happens
>7.0 is Sharlayan and Ancient world expansion. Sharlayan having the end of days experience really hits us harder than some random new country because of our connection to it via the scions.

People would be mad at more ancientwank but I'd take that a thousand times over compared to what DT was and the ancients are good just being overused now

>>717767245
Killing em off was dumb. Though to be frank I'd have not made them ancients at all. Or while people can mock the idea of 'something more ancient than the ancients' I don't think it's a bad idea - it's the equivalent of having a buncha medieval fucks hear about the ancient bible or greece and rome and then discovering a world so ancient it was old when Greece and Rome didn't even exist.

>>717768286
Black Rose got introduced in Stormblood so Varis was always gonna have a rage-out "neener neener i win no matter what" button that would need addressed

>>717756189
come on bro it was obvious an Ashartian was involved from the start due to the very nature of how part of Alexandria was fused into Yyasulani. youre not going to have interdimensional travel between the source and it's reflections without an Ascian involved

dead game lol

He kept up safe this thread. Thank you, Steve.
Also, pentamelding the crafting gear, wasn't as bad as I thought this time. Just have a few tools to do and I'm set for the next year or two.

>>717768445
I was leaning on this theory.
>Sun + Moon = Platinum
>inheriting the hopes and dreams of the Ancients
>the first hero granting power to the last
>all those who gave their lives to create a future finally ultimately fulfilling that dream by saving the here and now

>>717768796

>>717768745
This looks like the kind of thing you'd find scrawled across asylum walls.

>>717769025

>>717768575
It was going to be an issue only with the influx of Aether from The First. Normally, Black Rose is just nerve gas that can be filtered out via basic protective gear that the Eorzean Alliance had. Without it, it wouldn't turn into an Aether-eating-soul shattering plague that morphed into a Grey Goo scenario where it continued to make more of itself as it rampaged across the planet.

Are they seriously pulling the Ascian card again? Couldn't go ONE expansion before doing so?

>>717769025
>>717769107
gets me every fucking time

>>717767369
I did, but also this is probably at least partially a Legacy boomer thing. One of the last story quests for 1.23 was going around the game world to each statue of the Twelve to /pray at it and offer aether or whatever, which is why that magic circle in the End of an Era trailer tries to reseal Bahamut. So there was never a question in my mind that they exist in some form, you literally pray to them and offer a gift and are granted power in return. I figured they were probably Primals and that mostly was true but they had to have some significance. The alliance raid series was pretty weak though.

>>717769128
They are in dire straits right now.

>>717768796
Is Steve our version of Zodiark?

>>717769171
emil namazu is fucking haunting

>>717769128
We don't know, because they had Calyx clearly mention a "Winterer" group, so it could be a third party separate from Preservation and the remaining Ascians.

>>717769186
That prayer was part of a primal summoning ritual though, and primals are never genuine gods. So the existence of primals of the Twelve doesn't actually confirm or deny any existence of actual Twelve.
And in actuality, revealing that the genuine Twelve have actually been soaking up all their own worship means that a primal summoning shouldn't have been possible at all. So EW is in conflict with what happened at Carteneau.

>>717766849
kek

>>717769290
"Winterer peers"
So I assume it's not all Ascians. Might all be faggots trying to puppet all of their respective doomed shards, with an ascian connecting them.

>>717768212
>muh garlemald expac
i now what you are

>>717769128
I'm just confused as to why nobody mentioned Ascians being involved, Alisaie jokes about the gate being Allagans again, but no one thought Electrope was suspicious?

>>717769445
The Scions turned retarded in DT. It takes Calyx doing a primal summoning for Y'shtola to figure it out. Even using Ascian terminology to refer to his world as the Ninth reflection only made Krile go "huh... that's weird..."

>>717769445
At least they said it this patch.
>Whenever Primals are involved, Ascians are never far.
I also assume Y'shtola had her assumptions already.

>>717769317
>soaking up all their own worship means that a primal summoning shouldn't have been possible at all
Why? Where is that stated? Worship is only a part of the primal summoning. You also need a considerable amount of aether crystals. I see nothing that could stand in the way of Louisoix and his attempt at sealing Bahamut here, it looks like you're grasping at straws.

>>717769107
Lol saved

>>717741034 (OP)
>Erenville
Legit, how do you not come out fucking traumatized after what this dude was put through. Outside of the obvious plot convenience.

>>717769107
One day, he will succeed.
And we WILL like Final Fantasy 15.

>>717769445
Nobody in-universe had any immediate evidence it was Ascians until WoL had a "Skylar White, yo" eyebrow-raise hearing Calyx refer to his world as a reflection

>>717769635
Just don't be sad. It's that easy.

>>717769713
>Skylar White, yo" eyebrow-raise
Lmao.

>>717769635
He very clearly is traumatized, but being traumatized does not equate to being rendered non-functional. WoL is also traumatized.

>>717769590
>Why? Where is that stated?
Because if worship of the Twelve is being directed at the real Twelve, it can't be directed at a primal summoning. The actual Twelve were already acting as magnets for that faith. And yeah faith is actually a tangible energy flow that can be followed (dynamis) since Elidibus sniffed it out and followed it to the FF1 Azem.

>>717769762
>WoL is also traumatized.
Just don't offer me drinks and I'm fine.

>>717769635
Did anything bad actually happen to him? He's essentially a warehouse worker in the most peaceful city in the world that had to cram a few extra hours during the apocalypse

>>717747493
>>717761627
Damn osrs mogs this slop

>>717769373
It'd be repetition (not like that stopped them before) but could be the other surviving shards are
>Fuck these sourciggers we're going to get them before they get us
Kinda feels like an easy Ascian ploy to, warriors of darkness style, turn the shards against the source. Or real cliche given it's basically amaurotines all over again, but have some ark of survivors of the various calamities working to try and conquer/unjoin the source. Which would be a repeat of the original ascian plot but reversed into anti-rejoiners wanting now to rob the source of its aether.

Honestly given how japanese creativity (or lack thereof) is I kinda can see this happening now that I say it. If not lightning-world scheme of jumping into the source itself then survivors of the calamities wanting to de-rejoin the source.

>>717769854
His mom suddenly died when he was on his way to visit her, but I wouldn't call that traumatizing.

>>717769832
>it can't be directed at a primal summoning.
Why not? A primal is not the real deal, just the mental image + faith empowered by the crystals. Just because they acted as magnets for faith doesn't mean that faith or ability to envision an idea is some sort of a finite resource, even if tangible.

Don't you think it's pretty weak that the people on the First are 1/14th of a soul and they're still pretty much just as capable as those on the Source with several rejoinings?

>>717769850
I love how even in the latest patch he STILL won't drink something offered by someone else unless you want to as a player. I did pour one in honor of Geode, he died like a champ.

>>717770097
Dynamis!

>>717770064
>Fuck these sourciggers we're going to get them before they get us
That'd be fucking hilarious.
"These rejoinings? That's the evil Source villains trying to use you as fuel. You have to stop them."
And then the Ascian just turns around and snickers.

>>717770097
It's not about the size of the soul but how you use it ;)

>>717770103
I don't know why our character wasn't seen drinking anything this time. The animations are there.
Hell, they've added a drinking emote in 7.3 from the Christmas event.

>>717770089
I am convinced with that bunnymonster from 7.1 they intended for her to have a much more horrible fate but they pussypulled their punches because this is the SMILE expansion. It had the same trappings of a Tesleen or blasphemy kid who kills his dad in Thavnair. And the hair bit feels far too chekov's gun. I think Cacoochie was also cagey about why/when/how she died. And it'd jive with Zoraalja (and make him more of a bastard) that someone high up who tried to fuck with him gets turned into a la creatura instead of just 'lol I'll stab you'.

>>717770097
This is Source propaganda
They want to keep the shards weak dont fall for it

>>717770172
He wouldn't even be wrong, all the shards naturally drift towards rejoining the source. Just by its existence, The Source is a constant threat to other reflections, unless barricaded off. Obviously destroying it is not an option, since that would destroy the reflections.

>>717770232
Because they can't show the player drinking alcohol. That's why in the dwarf quests they make you ask for juice.

>>717770232
unironically your character still holds onto trust issues regarding drinks

>>717770291
Oh.
Of course. Jesus christ.

Has there ever been someone more shattered than that in all of XIV?

>>717770290
It is technically true.
But also the guy (Ascian) in this case turning them against the Source is part of the crew that instigated the rejoinings.

>>717770343
Why does Y'shtola look like a dude there?

>>717770343
Valens in his final moments is a good contender. Dude was trying to look up fight strats against Gaius moments before he had his top popped.

>>717769854
>Mom dies from an interdimensional nuke
>Have to hang out with a floating screen that assures you it's her
>Learn that she did actually die
>You have been hanging out with an ai replica of her
>You are forced to keep hanging out with the ai replica
I'd say it's pretty bad.

>>717770097
It was your first clue that the Ascians are totally fucking full of shit when they equate soul density or soul completeness to power and greatness

It also makes perfect logical sense with how enchantments (almost all gear you can get your hands on or craft is enchanted as background lore) and the higher echelons of magic (using external aether and not internal so your own magical density or capacity wouldn't matter anyways) is stated to work, and Emet fails to make the argument that any of the shard dwellers are dumber or less capable than the unsundered, in fact torpedoes his own argument by not drawing red mask Ascians exclusively from the Source which have higher reflection counts, he'll pull from the shards for uplifting to keep their numbers topped off if a Source version isn't available

>>717770465
Drawn by a twitter user.

>>717770343
Calyx lul.

>>717770471
Varis remains my primary example
He heard "Garlemald is a sockpuppet nation founded by shadow wizards and serves literally zero global purpose past destabilization and Calamity fodder" and understood "GARLEMALD IS THE CHOSEN NATION"

>>717769854
He's (supposedly) Wuk's childhood friend

>>717770623
He was right only about one thing, that the ascians should not have underestimated humanity. It kind of sucks how much of an idiot he ended up being, he seemed different in Stormblood.

>>717770623
That's not actually what he said at all.

>>717770343
I'd like to point out that that womans standards are so fucking sky high, it seems only someone who slays gods, wrestles with primals and saved the universe twice over *might* be good enough.

>>717770810
Magnai is also a giant loser

>>717770810
Less her standards are high and more she's an autistic NEET who didn't have any friends before the Scions, also Chad Dominus strolled into her life and literally nobody will ever compare

>>717770810
Magnai literally has women lined up and denies them in their face. The shit about him being a bitch made incel is endbryo twitter user stupidity. It's not that he's not meeting anyone's standards, it's that his own standards are too high.

>>717770810
*mans
Respect his gender

>>717770810
Obviously. If they weren't she wouldn't be a wine aunt with dried up eggs.

>>717770914
I hate the fact that Magnai just became "lul little sun" memes. It's so weak.

>>717769032
social media is where the west put all the people they previously would have put in asylums.

>>717770914
t. Magnai

>>717770810
She seems like the type that is so withdrawn and disinterested in the notion of romance that she would never have sex/reproduce or marry unless she met someone who made her ovulate on the spot.

>>717770810
she got railed by a catboy functionary. not even one of the good catboys.

>>717741034 (OP)
to save xiv make classic servers. game looked better and played better than it's current state

>>717770978
I never cared much for Magnai, but a similar thing happened to post Heavensward Estinien. One of the strongest, most competent fighters and a battle-buddy of WoL was turned into comic relief.

>>717770810
It is a little on brand for her to just go for the very best and nothing else.

>>717770980
I hate that we will never get another side quest like this again

>>717770343
What would happen if the Nunh of the Y Tribe would go after Y'Shtola?

>>717770980
I wish I could laugh at this like it's a joke, but it's genuinely true.
We need mental asylums back and stat.

>>717770810
Only Runar x Y'shtola full penetration can save 8.0

>>717770172
Yeah I gotta admit it's one of those ideas where you say it thinking it'd be stupid but then you go 'wait a second maybe this got legs'.

It relitigates prior plots to be sure, "Save what once was or keep moving forward", the shadowbringers relativity of perspective (They'd do what Emet did in his shoes). But I think it's got potential, whether you make it existing shards (Trying to ward off a future threat), or prior sacrificed shards. The real juicy shit would be to make it unclear IF it would actually cause 'anti calamities' (IE a sudden drought of fire or water or lightning aether) or not. So you have a lot of sourcers going
>Why the fuck should we risk our existence for these fuckers?

If they're sacrificed shards then you can't tell em to fuck off they got nowhere to go, you can't settle them there's too many of them in the source. Thematically it's all very obviously refugee crisis and or Israel/Palestine although the latter is very obviously corvos.

Actually, that'd be the way to consider what future plot beats might be. The past two expansions have had some very contemporary real life themes/vibes going on loosely inspiring elements - loneliness with covid for endwalker, AI-shit for dawntrail. So what the gestalt is in Japanese consciousness being- I guess that means 8.0 will be all about children and having families.

>>717744932
You remind them that E Cocoli blew their ass out so hard they integrated them into the bot-like bitching and moaning that ain't a bot at all. Genuinely no idea why they're so assmad at that one in particular. All that you need to do is remind the handful of people their very cool and original folder dumping has been a dead horse with several redundancies in it for the past few years.

>>717770980
I liked that guy because he was an irredeemable shitbag and enjoyed it, making him fun to watch and hate in cutscenes.

>>717771197
The only thing I dislike about it is that it still throws Ascians back into the whole rejoining business. I suppose the fact that one is involved with the likes of Calyx already does, but I'd really like an ascian that operates entirely on their own and doesn't really give a fuck about the lofty goals of the late Unsundered, nor anything explictly to do with rejoinings or preventing rejoinings or anything at all of that nature.

>>717771197
>that spoiler
Oh my god I don't want them to do that. 14 twitterfags are insufferable already.

>>717771265
COMING IN HOT

>>717771161
I will bed you, Nunh, but only if you can best my mate in combat. *points at WoL and continues to read her book*

>>717771402
I don't know why they hate you so much but clearly you're doing something right since a scroll through these threads ain't complete without that being one of the first posts to herald samefagging.

>>717771319
>back into the whole rejoining business
There's no more point to it. Zodiark has been destroyed. Its pieces scattered across reflections have turned into gigantic clumps of umbral-aspected aether after he died on the Source. Even should the barriers break and all the shards rejoin the Source, the ancients won't be coming back ever again.

>>717771521
>WoL mutely punches own hand

>>717771596
They hate me because of all the fat roegadyn BBC I get!

>>717771596
unfortunately it's dumpy skinwalking again
4chan X is your friend; easy to spot a picture hash for one of the lalafags that's nothing but BBC posts

>>717771649
>gigantic clumps of umbral-aspected aether
Astral

>>717771649
Yeah. Rejoining, or anti-rejoining, calamity or anti-calamity, I'd like an ascian that kind of veers away from it.

Every new day vindicates people like me

Bring back the 1.23c / 2.1 mindset

>>717771717
>dumpy
>doing a minecraft movie reference
You can't even keep your boogeyman bullshit straight.

>>717771596
>I don't know why anons hate avatarfags on an anonymous imageboard

>>717771197
(Samefag) The themes are loose enough to not be so on the nose as an American writer does it, and I am not familiar with Jap culture's specifics but if they went on the partisanship vibe and people being divided with eachother that'd be clearly at play in a Hingashi age of blood msq. Even though the age of blood happened centuries ago Yoshida referenced it as being more recent/contemporary (or time travel lol). Climate change is a vibe I've expected, had expected to be more presence in DT.

>>717771381
It's why as much as I like Corvos as a middle-easternaboo I don't want to really see it, that and because Dawntrail has made me skeptical of them doing 'ethnic fantasy' outside of Japanese stuff. But Corvos is so clearly that it's not even funny it's hilarious since it's the homeland of the Garleans, they got kicked out +1000 years ago, they came back and colonized it and yet now with the end of the empire clearly there's going to be a reckoning. Now I'm imagining all the Garlean-ISIS memery shit we could have and I gotta be honest nigga I kinda want it now.

I guess another 'contemporary theme' they could lean on would be the increasing prevalence of wars. What I WISH A nigga would do because with competent geopolitics writing that's clearly what should happen after the threat of Garlemald is gone. Plus ca change la meme chose and all that - the unity of Eorzea starts to stumble, Ilsabard is awash in conflict. It won't, though.

>>717771758
The firstniggers are wrong, I don't care they got it backwardss. Astral is light, Umbral is dark.

>>717771521
There are unironically so many fun little interactions they could put into dating content...

>>717771897
They didn't get anything backwards, you're just retarded. Astral is the active pole, called Darkness on the First. Umbral is the passive pole, called Light on the First. Zodiark is Astral because he's composed of heavily active Darkness. The unending codex explains it to you right there.

>>717771596
>I don't know why they hate you so much but clearly you're doing something right since a scroll through these threads ain't complete without that being one of the first posts to herald samefagging.
No clue, I think dumpy is just jealous of all the Big Black Roegadyn Cock I get to suck. Dumpy loves BBC, he just can't get any so he's mad, unlike me.

>>717770343
Me when I played Dawntrail.

>>717771759
We had a pair like that with Loghrif and Mitron, no reason why there couldn't be more. In fact, it's entirely possible that some remaining ancients would choose stewardship over whatever reflection they ended up on instead of siding with the Ascians.

>>717772003
DID YOU SAY BIG BLACK ROEGADYN COCK?????? YESSSSSSSSSSS

>>717771897
Umbral is stagnation, astral is activity
Darkness is an overactive element that all other elements turn into by default when overexcited, light is an underactive element when underexcited or completely still

>>717772072
Loghrif and Mitron were actually still doing the bidding of the unsundered.
Mitron just got royally fucked and decided "screw this" and Loghrif became Gaia who didn't know jack shit nor care about Ascian stuff.
Gaia's fun, but I want one who really renounced the Ascian shit and is really only Ascian in name. Maybe even borderline an ally.

Vizex Xene, what ever happened there?

>>717772098
Why are American lalas like this?

Cock

Big Black

Bulging

Roegadyn


COCK

>>717771319
>but I'd really like an ascian that operates entirely on their own and doesn't really give a fuck about the lofty goals of the late Unsundered, nor anything explictly to do with rejoinings or preventing rejoinings or anything at all of that nature.

These Ascians are the sundered ones, people who suddenly were told by three masked freaks that they were their colleagues in a past life and it was their duty to support their crusade to resurrect Zodiark and rejoin all the shards to the Source. Now that Emet & Co. and Zodiark are dead, these Ascians probably have no intention of continuing with the old plan (how could they even do it?) and have decided to turn Full Fandaniel instead. They can use their knowledge and powers to manipulate people and force/convince them to share their goals, whatever those might be.

>>717772167
They were going along with the First rejoining plan only because it gave them the means to save the Thirteenth. Their actual goal was to dump the Light into the Thirteenth. Because that's actually the home world those shards were uplifted from.

It is weird to fantasize about black penises while skinwalking a random lalafell fag.

>>717771831
>dumpy
>doing a minecraft movie reference
He's probably not doing it consciously since he's copying a lalashit post.

>>717772181
>Vizex Xene, what ever happened there?
He developed a terminal fetish for BBC, not sure why he and Cocoli feel the need to share it wuth us every thread. I guess it's just hie lala players are.

>>717772221
>who suddenly were told
Weren't convocation crystals repositories of memory? It'd be pretty easy to convince whatever loser they came across that lives in the gutter of society and fits their criteria of soul awakening by showing him visions of Amaurot that their cause is just and that this world will return if he just gives a few beast tribes some funny instructions and kills a couple people here and there.

>flagrant misspellings
seething or just phoneposting

>posts /pol/ shit about DEI and troons and woke and poz
>also constantly thinks about black dick

>>717772385
>Weren't convocation crystals repositories of memory?
Yes, they're job crystals.

>>717772273
>He's probably not doing it consciously since he's copying a lalashit post.
Nobody is copying the lalas, thats just the real them, Vizex and Cocoli have a long documented obsession with BBC of the Roegadyn variety

>>717772483
stop posting about your bbc fetish while posting pictures of ryne

>>717772423
>Complaining about pol and dei/tranny hate
Outing yourself as a leftoid, Homestuck

Reminder that the goddess Nymeia is a huge brocon

>>717772579
Who is complaining about what? I am saying that it's weird to spend all day raging about everything being woke and DEI and then fantasizing over black cock.
Surely, (You) think that is weird as well, right?

>>717772571
>stop posting about your bbc fetish while posting pictures of ryne
You have your posters mixed up, I'm the one who loves Big Black Roegadyn Cock. Me and Cocoli

>>717772661
All of the Twelve had such cool designs and they completely fucking wasted them.

>>717772221
>an Ascian mentor has been grooming Calyx since he was old enough to understand he was going to die and a physical body was just a hindrance
>the Ascians are the perfect example of Calyx's idea of a perfect existence
>despite this he treats his mentor like shit in those two lines we saw, no respect at all, meaning he doesn't completely agree with them
I think Calyx is gonna be redeemed. In that cutscene where he sweats and shivers thinking about his near-death experience, he not only thinks about the WoL, but remembers the piles of corpses seen in his life. He may have a compassionate side yet.

>>717772483
Yeahhhh I'm not fond of this picture of Ryne always being in the middle of BBC spam and lalafell samefaggotry
There's only ever two hashes for lalashits, yours and the original one
You're too lazy or too stupid to randomize hashes

>>717772690
It's weird to spend all day everyday whiteknighting an expansion of a game you don't even play. Which is what you do.

>>717772701
Are you a jeet? They tend to post about this stuff a lot.

>he became afraid of Steveposting, so he no longer dumps his folder and pretends to be a lalafell instead