Thread 717745307

It's over for COD

Secure Boot will be required for other games too

Just watch

>secure boot will be required for sloppa games
not my problem

>>717745307 (OP)
PC gaming is healing.
We finally ended piracy, we can end cheating as well.

>end piracy
lmao

>>717745431
this. I'm just going to keep playing Xonotic.

>>717745307 (OP)
>play old game
>cheater joins
>server admin kicks/vote to kick started
>everybody goes back to killing each other
>play new game
>cheater joins
>leave or suffer
>oh they found a way to reset your ranks and unlockables (or max out your ranks if your a grinding faggot)
>oh they found a way to have the anti-cheat ban everyone in the server
>*autistic screeching from some retard about "muh K/D"*
Also weird how there's so many more cheaters now than when there used to be... wonder what happened during those past 20 years....

massive kek if true

>>717745307 (OP)
It didn't stop cheaters in BF6
They will be forced to backtrack on Linux eventually when nobody wants to move to 11.

>>717745920
Thank god I'm not addicted to multiplayer and social games, and havben't even cared about them after turning 24 like a decade ago.

>>717746178
From most obvious to least
>Linux will never be relevant
>We're all upgrading to W11
>Cheating can be made so difficult as to become a non-issue

>>717746178
It will never STOP cheaters anon

>>717746062
>if
https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2025/08/call-of-duty-black-ops-6-ricochet-anti-cheat-season-05

its true anon

>>717745307 (OP)
LOL THEY GOING AFTER THE NUKE BOOSTERS

>>717746478
>>717746493
>Sealing and Binding: These functions lock specific data – like login credentials and encryption keys – to your device and its current system state. If the system changes, the data becomes inaccessible.

Jej rip Chinese hack sellers

>>717745307 (OP)
why don't they simply rangeban the regions which contain 90% of the cheaters consistently?
seems like it would be a whole lot easier and less annoying for everyone

>>717746598
>what is vpn

>>717746615
ban those too
you don't need a VPN to play online games

>>717745307 (OP)
Why cut out the date?
>strengthen our anti-cheat
ok so cheats available day1 again?

>>717746646
then ban pron

>>717746537
>change gpu
>game bricked
plz fix

>>717746693
You vill own nothing

>>717746359
>We're all upgrading to W11
>we
>all
>upgrading
>to W11
Hard to imagine a sentence where every meaningful word can be greentexted.

>>717745307 (OP)
Why is that a bad thing?

>>717745307 (OP)
Oh no, i will continue not to play shitty mp games i guess

>>717746825
It's just an arbitrary restriction that has become the new "it will work this time" at the potential expense of the consumer.

>>717746598
That would be racist and discriminatory

>>717746657
nobody cheats at porn

>>717746882
an entire race being able to cheat and place themselves over others is a racial supremacist movement however and that needs to be stopped

>>717746598
Because that region has an extremely large potential playerbase, and if they let them buy the game and then ban them, they might squeeze more than one sale out of each potential consumer.

>>717746865
But maybe it will work this time. lets give them a chance

>>717745307 (OP)
>two big shootan franchises require Secure Boot at the same time
>this while support for Win 10 is ending and Win 11 requires Secure Boot

>>717747023
It's already failed. EA tried this already mutliple times and it failed day 1 in BF6.

>>717745307 (OP)
tpm is a much worse requirement than secure boot here

>>717747053
Stop being antisemitic

just don't have shit pc

>>717746693
Hardware ID is tied to cpu and MB

>>717747053
I wonder if this is somehow related to all the hardware manufacturer losses and tarriffs...

>>717747150
Ok great so I can't upgrade the core components of my computer that I would potentially want to upgrade the most.

>>717745307 (OP)
I think some kind of global digital ID system could fix this.
It could be used to prevent cheating since the cheaters could be easily banned after their first offence.

>>717747239
Oh wow a fucking nigger with a nigger opinion

It's a pretense.

>>717747239
and what is stopping people that break rules from making fake IDs there Agent Smith?

>>717745307 (OP)
Is it even legal to update into something that potentially makes some users unable to play your game?

>>717747341
its legal because nobody can stop them and will cuck to a non-binding statement hidden in their ToS
Devs have been doing it for years already
Witcher 3 and Satisfactory for example both had "next-gen updates" years after they were released and purchasable that effectively made the original games unplayable for anyone that didn't meet the arbitrary new requirements
there should be laws against altering products you already paid for and literally making them unusable years later "just because", its a much more serious issue than what SKG screechers have actually been whining about

>>717747224
Retard

Can a security expert chime in on exactly how secure boot helps prevent cheating?

>>717747613
>>717746478

>>717747547
My 3700x is showing it's age, and at this point I will need a new motherboard. You're asking me to brick my pc.

>>717747239
So there would just be black market for ID resellers. The amount of 80 year old gamers would skyrocket.

>>717747239
>browns traveling into your country illegally? we're all humans. who cares about laws
>somebody cheating at a video game? KILL THEM! PASS GLOBAL LAWS TO PREVENT IT! SHAME SHAME
reddits are like this and deserve to die for it.

you're so fucking stupid you don't get india existing prevents anything like this because there's 2 billion of those motherfuckers and nobody even knows which one is real or not. you'd have to ban all of india, africa, south america, and everywhere else. even then it won't work because western nations are corrupt brown and controlled by women so they'll also be exploitable

>>717747764
get a 5700X3D

>>717746598
>banning all chinks
They would not dare.

>>717747732
Right yeah, anti spoofing. Makes sense.

Should just make Secure Boot required for cross-platform queues. Everyone else on Windows is stuck with the potentially-more-cheaters lobby if they decide to queue PC-only.

>>717747053
stop nooticing things goy

>>717748062
console players are all cheating though

How much longer can this shit go on?

>>717748220
nah consoles are just better hardware

>>717748220
wdym every prebuilt has this shit by default. normies dont have to think about. only third world custom builders

>>717748220
What shit? Do you like cheaters ruining online games? If you disagree with the anti-cheating steps being taken in op then at least provide your own suggestion for a solution.

>>717748205
Nothing stopping PC users from using gamepads for egregious auto-aim/magnetism.

>>717748415
it feels like shit and most people don't actually want to cheat

Isn’t secure boot enabled by default on all modern computers?
Why is this such a big deal?

>>717745307 (OP)
Too little, too late.
BF6 has them scared.

>>717748374
You are fighting the fucking tide. The third world tsunami cannot be stopped, just range ban them all if you want cheating to come down to a level where you can deal with it.

>>717748618
>Isn’t secure boot enabled by default on all modern computers?
Biggest issue with Secure Boot is you have to choose between Secure Boot and Compatibility Support Module.
Several mobo manufacturers have Secure Boot off by default because you never know what kind of hardware or operating system someone might try to stick on it. Anyone putting together their own PC would have to turn it on themselves.
A lot of OEM custom builders that let you pick the components and OS turn Secure Boot off for the sake of maximizing compatibility even if they're certain there aren't any on the rig they built for you.
Anyone buying a laptop or some prebuilt Dell or whatever almost certainly has it on.

>>717746029
>wonder what happened during those past 20 years....
Thirdies getting internet access. You think it's something else?

>>717745307 (OP)
>don't play any of those games
>still have secure boot enabled because I'm not retarded

>>717747053
Secure boot is not exclusive to win 11.

>>717747319
The fact that the ID wouldn't be a handwritten note from your mother.

>>717748220
Until you realize that you are actually not a tech expert and stop listening to outrage porn from schizos.
Or you could listen to even more outrage porn, stop worrying about your PC because now you're scared of your light switch giving you autism.

>>717748618
Cheat makers make a lot of money, so they shitpost against everything that could threaten their business model.

>>717747764
You're a bit of a goofy goober, aren't you? It tracks changes during runtime, if you restart your computer it resets.

>>717745307 (OP)
Require credit card authentication to play, problem solved

>>717750890
>credit card
Not a thing outside burgerland

>>717746029
in 2005 the internet was entirely the US, Western Europe and Australia. Now it's filled with chinks, spics, and jeets.

>>717746029
The multiplayer experience went from a high trust suburban society to a complete urban niggerhole that demands armed cops and cameras everywhere

>>717750952
That just makes it sound even better

>>717750968
Also south east asians, russians, japanese and bots. I miss white-only internet

>>717745431
fat fuck

>>717745307 (OP)
OMG all the normies are gonna freak when they find out!

>>717751083
I'm all in favor of region locks for multiplayer games. Don't get me wrong, but giving any banking information to those retards is asking for trouble.

>>717746029
you're

>>717745307 (OP)
>>717751226
>friend finds out they need secure boot
>cries for an hour that he cant figure it out
>goes into bios
>doesnt follow instructions
>every single problem that happens from now on is because of secure boot
>he never turned it on

we are in for a flood of retarded normies having a hard time doing basic computer shit. half of them couldnt figure out how to update their drivers without games literally telling them.

I had it enabled by default
Thanks for reminding me to disable it

>>717747053
>at the same time as EU mandates phones becoming unrootable and all your correspondence being monitored by AI

>>717752069
I live in the EU and I have no problem with this. I think creating a safer online environment is good for everyone.

>>717752208
I hope this is bait.

>>717745307 (OP)
>Secure Boot will be required for other games too
Cool, i won't play them. Got plenty of older games to have fun with instead.

>>717747106
Retard

>>717751407
you win this round grammar nazi

>>717752243
It was half-bait. I support some modicum of EU online regulations but for different reasons.

>>717748618
It was defaulted off on my mobo when I built this PC a year ago.

>>717746753
All your can as well. You just didn't say anything meaningful, fatty.

>>717752257
If you didn't care why did you come here to announce how much you don't care?
Sounds to me like you care...

>>717745431
Linux fags are worse than normalfags

>>717748374
>If you disagree with the anti-cheating steps being taken in op then at least provide your own suggestion for a solution
Dedicated servers. We already did this song and dance in every other thread.

>>717747053
>>717745307 (OP)
>secure boot and tpm 2.0
>Microsoft owns CoD
>Microsoft wants people to use W11
>They already blocked XB App on 21H2 months ago
How curious indeed...

>>717753968
>wants
yeah man security updates oh god

>>717745307 (OP)
>It's over for COD
More likely it's over for PC fats. Normies will see this shit and say I'll just buy a PS5.

>>717745431
You should be running secure boot on linux retardo.

>>717745307 (OP)
Devs should have been taking advantage of TPM 2.0 like 4 years ago.

>>717753989
Bottom line here is that none of these things are affecting dma cheaters who are using signed drivers and second pc to cheat. I.e. every cod streamer and people who use paid and less known, professional cheat vendors are unaffected.
All these requirements are there to appease retards crying on steam forums. Maybe it prevents script kiddies and cheap or public cheat users from using cheats but faze Swagg and Tim the Ratman are still going to be using their cheats in the public.

>>717754385
they are
cheating is never gonna stop
there's always gonna be retards paying for this shit
there's always a market for this

>>717754113
>ll just buy a PS5.
>he actually thinks consoles have no cheating/hacking
Lmao bro, honest to god Lmao

>>717754186
There's no point running secureboot on Linux unless you're on Fedora or RHEL.

>>717745307 (OP)
the absolute state of Secure Bootlickers...

>>717754459
I think what he means is that normalfags won't risk fucking around in the BIOS and just buy a console instead.

>>717745920
based

>>717754459
VASTLY less people cheating on a console, and it's a hardware ID ban when they're caught with the current setup Sony has, which spoofing doesn't work last I looked into it.

>>717747239
glownigger no one on this site is going to agree with you. go to a site with logins like reddit

>>717746029
>play old game
>cheater joins
>server admin isn't in the server because he's sleeping
>leave or suffer

More like it is over for hackers

>>717746029
More like
>join old game
>cheaters everywhere

>>717750052
>implying it stops cheaters

>>717745307 (OP)
>Secure Boot as anti-cheat
How's that supposed to work? All Secure Boot does is prevent you from booting unsigned .efi images.
If there's any cheat that needs you to boot your own image, you can always sign it so you can boot it under Secure Boot.

>>717748618
Because hackers can't have that. Cheating is a huge market and you bet that cheat producers have their own marketing departments spamming everywhere

/v/ is the only place on the internet where I can't complain about UE5 having shitty performance without being told to stop being poor, while simultaneously the board bitching about Secure Boot cause their 12 year old PCs don't have it or they're scared of bios like they just jumped off the console ship last week.

>>717755514
It limits the vector of cheating methods and making hardware bans actually work

>>717755662
it is almost as if the people telling you to stop being poor are actually impoverished third worlders themselves trying to provoke everyone

>>717755662
You're poor and also the people complaining about secure boot are tech illiterate retards.

>>717755518
>just sign your drivers
kek

There are drivers with faulty code that you can inject your code in but you stand out like a sore thumb when you use those drivers

>>717745307 (OP)
I wish nothing but the worst experience for all who consume multiplayer slop yearly

>>717745307 (OP)
>secure boot has been a thing since 2012
the real question is who is going into their bios and disabling secure boot?

>>717755662
My GNU/Linux gaming machine supports TPU 2.0, it's just that I'm not letting jews get free access to my PC is all hahaha

>>717746029
>play old game
>cheater joins
>server admin kicks/vote to kick started
This never happens. What happens is.
>Play old game
>Cheater joins
>Bans admin from his own server
>Respawns entire server
>Accesses to your PC
>Changes all your passwords
>Changes your wallpapers with unfunny 2010 memes
>Resets your multiplayer progression to 0
Y'all niggas are clueless about old multiplayer games

>>717756505
>What happens is
Does that actually happen?

>>717756601
It was a common occurrence before secure boot.

>>717756601
in the whole 1% chance that the cheater was actually smart enough to creat the cheats himself and not just a fag getting them online, maybe

>>717745307 (OP)
How about using your phone number and text message confirmation to log in?

>>717755317
>Start votekick

>>717756601
stop asking questions!

>>717756805
>play good
>get vote kicked out

>>717746029
>wonder what happened during those past 20 years....
Middleware. Blame Unreal Engine taking Havok and Havok being fussy bitches about people seeing their physics code.

Shit like that is why we no longer have dedicated server files, because hosting your own shit means the engine files are able to be seen.

>>717746359
>We are all upgrading to Win11
Delusional. 11's uptick only started RECENTLY and only BECAUSE WIN10 IS DEADMAN WALKING FOR CONSUMERS IN TWO (2) MONTHS.

For the majority of Win11's LIFETIME (3-4 [three-four] years), it was UNDERWATER in comparison to Win10.

Literally, Win11's lifetime has been until these past two months:

Windows 10: 80-90% of the market.
Windows 11: 10-20% of the market.

NOBODY is willingly using Windows 11. The ones that are are morons that can't handle Linux or multiplayer players that need anti-cheat (which doesn't even fucking work, LMAO) for multiplayer titles.

>>717747764
>You're asking me to brick my pc.
>He thinks hardware changes will brick your PC
Folks that don't know what they're talking about should REALLY shut the fuck up when it comes to Tech. Especially Zoomers like (YOU).

If you change your motherboard, you get a new private key. Simple. It doesn't brick your hardware that you put back onto the motherboard. Be fucking serious and THINK, you retard.

>>717753190
Well, yes: If you're building your own system, YOU'RE the SysAdmin and thus should know to turn it on if you're worried about MitM bootsector security.

>>717745431
You can literally use Secure Boot on Linux.

this will work out great

>>717757224
Bruh what are you on about? Windows 10 is under 40%. Has been for a long time now.

>>717745307 (OP)
arent you too old to be playing COD?

mind explaining what the whole fuss is about when secure boot being on should be the default option anyway, it is in deed the default option in 8 out of 10 motherboards unless you intentionally go in and change it, and and for YEARS since it's been introduced the general consensus in the gaming communitty is that it's best when its on?
>inb4 more input lag with secure boot on
thats cause of anticheats, not a fault of secure boot

The recent obsession over cheaters is an indoctronated fear by the tech industries and game publishers to mine more data from normie gamers in an attempt to tank performance for more hardware sales and to encourage system and cloud rental servies. You will own nothing. Especially not your medical, financial, ad profile, internet usage, and offline patterns are tracked back to the predators. The jews are influencing impressionable anons like (You) into thinking the people who reject these dark patterns are brownoids and poors who want to ruin your gayming experience. When in reality you're just defending these horrific patterns.
Have fun with your drm, kernel level anticheat deceit, Apple shit tier standardization of hardware and software, and botnets. All to play EA's latest attempt to wash away the fact that they were voted the world's worst company in the world.

>>717745307 (OP)
>secure boot
>doesnt stop any cheaters on COD6
so what was the point?

>>717758538
I'm not reading all that
Get help

>>717758482
It's not the default option on most boards. Most boards are in fact running UEFI though, so enabling secure boot is as simple as flipping the option in setup. It has no adverse effects.

>>717747239
isnt this what South Korea does already? why are we looking for solutions that already exist?

>>717758482
>for YEARS since it's been introduced the general consensus in the gaming communitty is that it's best when its on?
most people playing video games won't have known what the fuck secure boot even is before this

>>717755317
imagine not having the server owners phone number do you even pubstar bro

>>717758615
Please continue to participate in /v/ hardware threads and shitpost about chart threads, gacha games, ecelebs, and twittercaps instead of playing different games.

>>717758618
>It's not the default option on most boards
it is, so much so that if you google "secute boot default", most posts are reporting it NOT being on being as an unwanted and unexpected behavior and as an issue to be fixed(aka, it should always be on by default), and this goes as far back as 2013.

>>717758618
>Most boards are in fact running UEFI though
yes, with secure boot being ON by default...

>>717758802
most people playing video games either bought a prebuilt, or have built their own PC without ever changing any option in the BIOS, meaning most people playing video games would have secure boot ON anyway, so again, what's all the fuss about?
"oh no, this game requires this feature to be turned on, which was already on by default"?

>>717758203
Geek Squad will be happy

>>717758942
>schizo projection
Again, get help

>>717746029
>late 90s to early 2010s
>ISPs run gameservers
>hacker man gets reported
>banned from all ISP servers
Good times

>>717755317
>play old game
>kill admin's attentionwhore gf in game
>get kicked

>>717758970
Are you talking about pre-built computers or motherboards that you as the user buy? Your language suggests the latter, but the substance of your statements suggests the former.
Secure boot is enabled on pre-builts like Dells, yes. It is NOT enabled on user purchases standalone motherboards that you have to buy your own CPU and RAM for, at least I've never seen one with it enabled before.

>>717757224
>optin hardware survey
you dumb fucking retard

>>717759217
>Are you talking about pre-built computers or motherboards that you as the user buy?
im talking about BOTH
>It is NOT enabled on user purchases standalone motherboards that you have to buy your own CPU and RAM for, at least I've never seen one with it enabled before.
it is, and i've never seen one with it disabled before
the only times it is disabled is when your boot drive is set to MBR, but even that happens automatically(bios detects MBR boot drive, asks if you want to change it to GPT, and if you select no, it automatically switches secure boot off, which just confirms it was on by default), but that isn't really something anyone does anymore

>>717759508
Then I dunno what the fuck you've been buying. It's 100% disabled on all of the ones I've ever had.
Unless you're suggesting I'm somehow booting into Arch with secure boot enabled despite having never touched the BIOS setting for secure boot or adding any keys to my boot loader.

Sure as hell ain't booting MBR with CSM.

Nintendo wins again

>>717752069
The Chat Control thing hasn't passed. It's up for its ... what? 6th or 7th revote now? come this October, and not a single country has changed their actual position on it. It will fail to pass again. If anything the recently introduced AI Act will mean AI may not be used for broad sweeping detection anymore, making the entire thing 100% unimplementable at scale to begin with.

>>717759823
>remotely bricks your switch 2 because you disabled secure boot to not lick it
winning the race for losing the hardest

>>717759045
Seek help.

>>717759823
>Denuvo

>>717749948
>Secure boot is not exclusive to win 11.
the main thing preventing microsoft from forcing people to ""upgrade"" to win 11 is them not having secure boot enabled
they made bf and cod suddenly require secure boot so people would finally turn it on and therefore meet the win 11 install requirements. these people will probably wake up to their pc installing win 11 on it's own at some point within the next 6 months btw

>>717761147
>Being connected to the Internet or using a pirated cart
Skill issue

>>717761404
>and therefore meet the win 11 install requirements.
except they made it so you don't really need to meet those "requirements" cause they weren't really required, and that change happened almost 1 year ago

>muh secure boot this, secure boot that
guarantee 99.9% of this board has had it ON for a decade

>>717745431
LMAO

>>717761527
I'm sure it's technically possible to install win 11 without secure boot, but ms doesn't try to force you to install win 11 if you don't have it on.
before I turned on secure boot a couple days ago, the only win 11 popups I saw were the occasional "please buy a new pc so you can use win 11" message, but now I have a permanent notification begging me to update to win 11 on my screen 24/7

>>717762023
>goyfield 6 doesn't run on linux
and that's a good thing

>>717747053
W11 doesn't require you to have secure boot on to install and run, it only requires your hardware be secure boot capable.

Most motherboard manufactures default it off incase you manage to botch the OS install and W11 managed to encrypt all your drives with default on bitlocker, among other shenanigans.

>>717747053
I really wonder what their endgame is.

Because it's going to be really REALLY fucking suspicious once they start requiring Secure Boot for singleplayer games, which you know they will.

>>717752069
>at the same time as EU mandates phones becoming unrootable and all your correspondence being monitored by AI
What?
Sauce please

>>717757482
Or at least that's how it should work if the dev isn't working out of a tin hut in Bangalore

>>717745307 (OP)
I don't play live service games.

COD has been dead for decades. Actually still playing it is a failure of your own life decisions.

>>717745307 (OP)
It will be bypassed by cheaters

>>717766282
I love this webm.
Pure "skill".

>>717756505
Tell us ONE TIME that happened and the game
It's amazing how many oldfags talk about how "X totally happened" but it was always to their friends cousin or some shit
Fucking boomer and gen x larpers are fucking pathetic.

>>717745307 (OP)
if you're that worried about cheating, only require the extra intrusive anti-cheats for comptard modes and let everyone play unranked.
if your game only has comptard (ranked) modes or they're the only populated modes then it's a bad game, no value lost by skipping it.

>>717766685
I could take complete control of any Jedi Outcast/Academy server (and Quake 3, RTCW/ET but I didn't play those) that allowed map downloads. We had to disable downloads after the first time someone did it to us (it also took the server provider a few days to restore the game files the hacker casually overwrote)
https://opennet.ru/base/usersoft/1147279184_3982.txt.html

Another exploit in that game, all it could do was crash the server but was much harder to guard against, and trying to get rid of the guy doing it with VPNs was a pain in the fucking ass.
The code to do it?
say aaaaaaaa...(over 1024 a's)
yep that's all this caused a buffer overflow and instantly crashed unmodded servers

>>717746359
>Cheating can be made so difficult as to become a non-issue
delulu

>>717745307 (OP)
they really are preparing for the new world war uh...

>>717747053
>have windows 10
>play bf6 no problem
>friends have windows 11
>one even bricked his pc trying to play it
not seeing the problem here

>>717769051
>bricked his pc
didn't happen

>>717766282
This is not the first time I've seen him accused of cheating and this webm is pretty damning, crazy to think he might have built an entire career off cheating.

>>717745307 (OP)
theres already hacks that work through it anyways whats the point

>>717745431
Based.
Linux does what WinDON'T!

>>717761179
>n-no u

>>717762023
Your gaming experience is now ten times better

>>717770174
>(c) 2001
I cannot imagine using Linux over Windows back then. XP was an excellent OS and Linux was beyond garbage then. It's only just passable today, and that's only because Microsoft ruined a good thing when they released Windows 8.