>Hearthstone is in its worst meta ever
>MTG Arena, Marvel Snap, and Shadowverse 2 are made by kikes to squeeze every single penny out of their whales, playing them as a normal sane person is a miserable experience
>Master Duel is just two dudes jerking off and seeing who performs their OTK first
>the only actually good card games (Gwent, Runeterra) are dead
>indie PvP card games usually get <100 players and die in a week
Is there any hope for the digital card game genre? I swear this shit is even more cursed than fighting games.
This shit is one of the reasons why I've moved onto actual TCG for the most part. Pokรฉmon with a bit of MTG on the side for occasions.
Will try the Digimon equivalent of Master Duel/Arena once it actually releases later this year or so.
Master Duel is really good though. It makes the best of a bad situation, the cancerous new design of card archetypes.
>>717748551 (OP)Digimon Card game is kino
>>717748551 (OP)Duel Links was doing fine until they added Links. Now the game has become even more TCG lite. Pocket TCG seems to be fine.
>>717748551 (OP)Power creep is a feature of the genre OP
>>717749386>maxx "c" legaloh yeah definitely making the best of the situation
My issue with card games is that people have access to all the cards and the internet spreads all the information.
You don't come up with your own strategies anymore and try to make what you have work. You just copy what you see online or lose after 2 turns each time.
>>717755991I come up with some of my own strategies. I'm still fairly new to this though so I really on the internet for help.
>>717755991This, the only value YuGiOh really has is to kids on the playground where you have to piece together the best strat you can from what cards your allowance and trading got you
>>717755991This isnโt as much of an issue with highly draftable games, because you can customize those to make play environments that fit your play group.
>>717753926Maxx C is the least of the issues the current meta has, why is that of all things what you'd immediately complain about lol
>>717759153>>717753926>bro let's get rid of the one card that makes the game fair
>best hours for the two online competitive games that I play are the same
Fuck me
>>717751787Man I miss old Duel Links. I liked the Harpie vs Gate Guardian matchup or the Harpie Relinquished matchup.
>>717759153No, it's still a boring instant win with very little counterplay if it resolves.
>>717760892>go second>opponent drops the roach>don't use my called by on it>winThe CHAD TENPAI way.
I don't get why some effects in Master Duel that [require your oppnent to blindly pick a random card for you out of 3 or whatever cards] make the opponent pick, while others just automatically give you a random one without the opponent's involvement.
It'd be better if all of these effects were automated like the latter case.
>>717761723The ones that automatically pick probably say randomly on them while the other one just says they pick which one.
>>717759306>duels should be decided by who draws this one card
>>717748551 (OP)and pokemon tcg pocket is just whoever goes first loses.
>>717762275>>717759306There's literally not a single feeling worse than going second, staring into a board you know you might be able to break but probably can't otk on and then getting maxx c'd and realizing that even if you break it, because you can't do lethal, they'll just win on the crackback anyways.
>b-but the other happens more if you look at stati-Doesn't matter. It FEELS the worst and when you're playing a game what the players feel matter more than raw data.
>>717748551 (OP)just play eternal card game instead
>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGsoh wait you're a normalfag who licks the ass of megapopular corporations
>>717762397Facts don't care about your feelings.
>>717762489It's a game, sweetie. Not your political slop.
>>717748551 (OP)seeing yugioh cards like this in the anime made me realize something how the fuck does someone know what effects each card has like its just the image, the atk/def points and star level or just magic and trap symbols did they just make shit up for the sake of making shit up or does everyone just magically know what every single card does
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>>717748551 (OP)>Pokemon is in its best meta right now>About to get even better next monthHOLY BASED
>>717762672The just an image thing is only on the English cards. In the actual Japanese version of the anime, they have written text on them.
That said it seems like you aren't allowed to read the other guy's cards in duels.
>>717762672That's only in the dub.
In the original, they have all their effects and stats written on them.
The dub removes them due to American laws basically forbidding putting real "toys" in childrens' shows or something like that.
>>717762489Well, my feelings don't care about your facts, how about it?
>>717762672I mean in the anime no one seems to know what any card outside their own deck does.
>>717762876well thats fucking stupid but now it does make sense whats funny is i watched the subs for gx and i guess my mind was so used to the dubs that i never noticed the text on the cards i mustve glossed over it
>>717762672You are supposed to attend tcg university to study this kid's card game.
>>7177629545Ds was usually pretty good about knowing what cards do, unless it was the retarded kid playing
>>717763026Which four year course you taking?
>>717748551 (OP)>RuneterraI miss that game. It felt like I could get away playing homebrew decks while winning consistently at diamond. I'm playing Shadowverse 2 right now and it feels like I'm gimping myself by not playing one of the three good decks.
>>717748551 (OP)Dont worry digipapu digimon card game is going to fix everything! :3
>>717763252You are supposed to be taking all four of them simultaneously.
>>717759153Maxx C is the major reason modern yugioh is so bullshit. Just like decks started having built in chain blocking and/or set from the deck to get around ash decks also now play better under the roach. They can setup decent boards that have several points of interaction with fewer summons, they have condensed engines so they can run handtraps that help deal with roach or slow down their opponent, or they can just outright pass and continue playing on your turn. This is unhealthy and these bandaid fix cards that make the game "fair" only make it so the next batch if cards are even better than their counters leading to even more egregious powercreep.
>>717763686There is nothing more reddit than homebrew decks.
>>717764097In the show they explicitly don't
Konami's financial results from last week.
https://img.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/meeting/2025/en0731_shyc2k.pdf
https://img.konami.com/ir/en/ir-data/statements/2025/en0731_2yhhmd.pdf
They mention the lore anime releasing, but nothing else, not referred to as a success or anything. It probably flopped.
Fusion decks are cool.
>Proof: Branded
Synchro decks are cool.
>Proof: Red Dragon Archfiend
Link decks are cool.
>Proof: Unchained
Ritual decks are ass.
>Proof: Gishki
Xyz decks are ass.
>Proof: Raidraptors
Pend decks are ass.
>Proof: Pendulum Magician
>>717762746>best metaThe ex era was over two decades ago, anon. Is dusclops still crowding out all 1 prize evolution decks?
>>7177649201 prize decks are for faggots lol
>>717763686Runeterra had a fun PvE system. I wish Eternal had Runeterra's speed.
>>717748551 (OP)When was Hearthstone ever not in it's worst meta ever? Every new expansion they add more and more stupid powerful cards, its a miracle if you even get to 10 mana in ranked anymore, every game ends around turn 8
>>717763690But first they have to fix that damn client before anything.
>>717765809I find it insane that they created the "rotation system" to avoid "powercreep" but then just made increasingly more powerful cards anyways.
>>717763252>Practicing Influencing your DrawsLike stacking the deck?
>>717753926Have you tried not being shit at the game?
I started playing the Onmyoji card game after being fed up with pay2win slop like Marvel Snap and it's actually quite good. It uses the MtG color system but card pools are split into unique "characters" that you draft cards from. For instance, if you want to play Blue, you might have one character with a lot of draw spells, one character with counterspells, one who can mill the opponent's deck, etc and then you build a deck around 4 of these characters and pick and choose cards from each of them.
The balance is good and there's no powercreep, characters from launch sets are still viable. Very f2p friendly as well. It's a shame the game isn't more popular, it deserves to be.
>>717751787>Duel LINKS>No linksHuh?
>>717762746>About to get even better next monthWhy is that?
>>717753926>Maxx-c and mulcharmies legal
>>717751787I really don't like Link Summoning. I mean, I like the idea in theory, but Link monsters are so incredibly powerful and set up graveyard too quickly for how easy they are to summon.
>>717748551 (OP)I'm playing the yu gi oh special edition on the psp
Mtg is alright if you farm out a brawl deck and then only play brawl to farm more brawl decks
Fuck giving wizards of the coast money
>>717763252P-pendulum bros...?
>>717766736No drawing what you want is a skill that can be learned and trained, as per the GX kid that ran off into the wilderness to become a genius of topdecking
>>717751787>Duel LinksI haven't played it in years since the powercreep was getting insane, but they should make that Yugiboomer mode with premade decks and archetype restrictions permanent.
>>717768018That is from the series where they first introduced pendulums, it was invented by magic literally a day prior
>>717748551 (OP)>no mention of PTCGL
>>717766736>He never practiced getting better drawsI bet this guy also FLUNKED Basics of Chain Blocks LOL
>>717766823touch her navel, lick her asshole
>>717768379Nigga that shit sux
>>717748551 (OP)How would you guys fix yugioh?
>>717768379it goes against the narrative of tcgs dying
>>717768421That's not very sanitary!
>>717766823>Touch or lick?Duel
>>717748551 (OP)I always prefered them to be single player. That is why i hate the android duel generation game from before was discontinued. I'm either too dumb to follow meta or it's too boring for me.. Good for learning about the physical games though
>>717768510PTCG Live =/= PTCG Pocket
>>717766460Not sure how modern Hearthstone's gone, but it's pretty much inevitable that if you want to keep adding new things power creep will happen regardless as you run out of ideas of what useful things a card can do at the lowest power levels and have to start exploring more powerful cards and then even the basic already existing sorts of cards will need their stats or whatever bumped up to keep up.
>>717753926>seething at Chadd "C"There's literally nothing wrong about designing the game around one card. You brainlets literally need to git gud.
>>717768379OP has clearly stated that this is about digital
>>717768998>There's literally nothing wrong about designing the game around one cardI don't even play modern ygo but it really must be trash if this is the average player's mentality
>>717748551 (OP)Hearthstone is fine if you play Battlegrounds
>>717762489Feelings determines if people keep playing or quit the game though, and that translates into sales, which are facts, so facts DO in fact care about feelings.
>>717769029PTCGL is digital...
>>717748551 (OP)card games are stupid. get a real skill or learn to draw or something.
>>717768998there's no 'game design' around Maxx C, it just makes duels more sacky and deckbuilding less flexible
>but it keeps combo decks in check!yeah sure, let's check the top meta decks of the past decade in the OCG and MD. oh look it's all combo decks, what a twist
>>717768507add mana costs to every card
>>717760980Is this fucking real
>>717769636Digimon isn't afraid of sexualizing their cards, unlike Pokeshit.
>>717769092Keeping maxx c is the cry of retards being contrarian when their viewpoints have consistantly been proven wrong.
Maxx C only helps combo decks because everyone is forced to run a 8-9 card package solely to out max C, which is a quarter to a sixth of your deck that does jackshit to combo
The only decks that truly benefit off maxx cs existance that arnt combo, are stun, which is a deck nobody wants to exist because its just the quivalent to a sacky omninegatefest combo for brainlets.
nobody can come up with a proper argument on why pot of greed is banned yet this shit is legal and in every deck
>>717769636Digimon has been pandering to the exact same audience for over 20 years. They know that their core audience is over 30.
It would seem they don't care about getting new, younger fans.
Dunno if based or retarded.
>>717770836only 3 of those are played in every deck, and only because Maxx C is legal
>>717770836The idea is that Pot is usable in everything and stacks on top of existing draw power. But I don't really get why we just can't do something like limiting draw power and concepts like that instead of limiting cards themselves.
>>717770836We have, you are just stubborn and retarded.
Pot of greed is unconditional and has no restrictions
>>717771373maxx c is banned in the TCG and ash has always been in every deck
>>717769636Oh please anon, lot of waifumons are older than people posting here.
>>717770527Roach isn't on TCG and exactly same decks top. And now they have fuwa which is exactly same shit.
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>cancer roach has been in the game for longer than it hasn't
bleak
>>717771461that is true. but unlike Pot of Greed, Ash is an interactive card that makes duels more interesting
>>717771461Ash was really meta dependent, lot of decks either sided or ignored on some lists, as now is mandatory again because fuwa alongside usual anti roach techs.
Ash do jackshit against modern decks.
>>717760183Yeah. I miss the good ol days when the game was simple and you actually had a legitimate reason to use certain characters.
>>717770836Do you really need both of those mulcharmy at 3?
Every card game has the same issue where it gets powercrept to shit and you can just compare hands at the start and skip the match.
These games have a limited lifespan due to this.
>>717773879>every deck now spam their own archetype turn 0 shitGuess.
>>717762397It genuinely doesn't matter if the going first player has Maxx C.
If it was any other strong interaction you would also be fucked. It needs to just be a a game rule to making going second tolerable.
>>717773879no. you only main them if you're on a super consistent deck with low engine count. in Bo1, they're dead cards in 50% of duels
>>717774257Digimon immediately ends your turn if you try go giga nigga.
That don't exactly stop big boards either.
>>717748551 (OP)Just buy some force of will
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>>717767836my megawife is releasing and she is broken as hell.
>>717762467How is the meta?
I remember quitting around when they released building Planeswalker.
When your cardgame is all about OTKs...maybe it needs a reboot.
>>717776940it had a reboot. and it's already half a decade old, in fact
>>717776940I'd rather have OTKs than the card games where it's just about smashing creatures together and requires 0 brainpower
>>717777173Good idea, we can just compare our opening hands and save having to play.
>>717762467>>draft against AI or other playersIs this sth like hearthstone's arena mode? I miss that shit
>>717769401Don't mind me, I'm a retard and thought it was the physicial one
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>>717773879Definitely not, Fuwalos is the only one worth playing most of the time. The others are format dependent. And in general only decks that can play enough HTs to begin with.
>>717778219Gotcha, thanks anon
>>717778219The Charmies being legal would be a lot easier to swallow if not for the fact that Maxx C was semi-limited. The Charmie cards are the most obvious "Fixed" version of Maxx C possible and yet they insist on keeping the original problem card legal so you can theoretically engineer a gamestate where a player is drawing 3 cards for each special summon in a game where drawing 2 cards is a bannably strong effect.
>>717778219its still 5 of the same shitty cancer card
roach should be banned
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>>717779284Another example to bring the point home, K9 Vanquish Soul runs a lot amount of HTs so you just see Mulcharmy in the side deck while they main deck the most powerful/versatile HTs.
>>717780018>>717780130Agreed, Maxx-C banned with the Mulcharmies being in the game is fine though I think Fuwalos is still a little too strong.
>>717759306what about maxx c strikes you as fair exactly
>inb4 it stops le combo decks that built huge fuck off negate boardsthose decks can run it too, typically to greater effect than other decks
>it helps older less powerful decks keep upmost of the archetypes/strategies in yugioh lose instantly if maxx c goes off because getting their own board set up gives the opponent too many resources to use against them
>>717768998>There's literally nothing wrong about designing the game around one card.pic related
>>717772724>Roach isn't on TCG and exactly same decks top.two things about this
1. the mulcharmies (not sure if that's how it's spelled) are maxx c analogues and thus are functionally the same, and more importantly
2. the fact that the decks that rule tcg are often just as good in md indicates that roach being legal doesn't do anything to slow them down despite the roach defenders who insist the opposite
the good decks don't need roach to win and the bad decks can't win because roach exists, so at the end of the day it doesn't help anyone
>>717780234The only changes I'd make to the Charmies would be having each individual effect be HOPT so you could apply Purulia and Fuwalos but not 2x Fuwalos. MAYBE they should've made it so Fuwalos was only ED or the deck rather than both. Other than that I'd say they're mostly fair given how many decks can play around/under them. Centurion comes to mind but even otherwise balls to the wall combo decks like White Forest have lower impact boards they can fall back on that don't access the ED as much. I remember I got Charmie'd and so I normal summoned Silvy, searched Woes, then used Diabellstar to set Morrian. Two disruptions and some followup for no draws.
>>717780364MD follow OCG, in fact MD have lot of cards unhit because their stupid ass instance in not hitting decks too hard.
Hence why shit like kitkat is available while terraforming is banned.
>>717748551 (OP)You could always try a Vtuber themed TCG!
https://en.hololive-official-cardgame.com/
>>717748551 (OP)>Hearthstone is in its worst meta everQRD?
>>717781293that's true, though i still figure the metagames of tcg and md are worth comparing since there's a ton of overlap between the two and therefore things like deckbuilding sensibilities are close to identical between the two formats
obviously md decks look different because it's bo1 but the thought processes of players between tcg and md are basically the same
Hurry up with digimon sim, i'm tired of MD.
>>717759306They should just errata maxx c so that it has the "you control no cards" requirement like the multcharmies.
That would instantly improve the game a dozen times over.
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FREE HER
>>717780364Maxx C just adds more variability to games, it doesn't change the meta. Sometimes you just get bullshit non-games where someone resolves Maxx C and then their opponent auto-loses because their choice was between an un-interactable Vanity's Emptiness or giving their opponent 5x Pot of Greed.
The only exception is ironically when Maxx C boosts the power of balls-out combo decks by giving them an additional win condition. Like Tasuku FTKing with PUNK in the MD World Cup because he summoned a bunch of times, or Dark World/Six Sam looping infinite non-OPT special summons to just deck their opponents out. Even from personal experience I have won with Runick Fur Hire just because the combination of 20+ special summons and the Runick banishes let me access the mill win condition in what was actually a mid-tier combo deck compared to actual meta strategies at the time.
>decks are stronger now than ever before but it's HEALTHIER because endboards are weaker
>they are just layered with handtrap, graveyard, trap, spell and monster interactions, unparalleled consistency, turn 1 interaction and infinite recursion
What is with TCG retards? Isn't this much worse than negate slop boards of the past you could 1 shot with specific board breakers
>draw the out becomes win the flip because there are no outs
>>717781459half your matches are vs opponents vomiting out an unremovable murloc board and rolling their face on teh keyboard to win
>>717781781Maxx doesn't change the meta because there are many main deck outs to it. Like the old argument of Heavy Storm discouraging set 5 or backrow spam decks.
Heavy never did that, it was occsionally punished by going against a non-backrow deck like Frognarchs, but for the most part players still set 5 and ran counters because it was protection against OTKs.
Sacking Heavy against a board with no answers and then OTK was much rarer than OTK on an empty field, or OTK with 1 set. 1 set might as well be an open field. And this was an era where backrow was the only viable non engine because HT weren't strong yet.
Maxx actually did its job during the Snake-Eyes Tenpai meta with x3 Maxx and x3 Fuwalos. Snake-Eyes couldn't combo turn 1 in that environment and ran floodgates as cope play. And Tenpai was actually better than Snake-Eyes because it could reliable resolve its combos.
>>717748551 (OP)>Try the new shadowverse 2 draft mode>cost 1000 shekels to try once>Need 5 wins to even get your entry shekels back>2 losses end your run>You can end up with only 1 legendary while some fucker can get up to 4
>>717783016>Isn't this much worse than negate slop boards of the past you could 1 shot with specific board breakersno, "draw the out" is a worse playing experience. if your opponent is playing Maliss and you don't have the handtraps to stop them from going full combo, you can just scoop instantly instead of having to sit and watch them masturbate hoping you'll "draw the out". and depending on your hand, you can win going second with only engine cards as long as you can interrupt some of the opponent's combo with handtraps
>fuwalos is the only worth playing
Actually its looking like purulia might be the worst designed of the bunch, you discard it during your own turn to punish turn 0 interaction from shit like k9, bystial etc. you might as well because you can't use it once you set up.
>>717762397>staring into a board you know you might be able to break but probably can't otkThe fact that you think you need to OTK to win is its own problem
>>717764125>They can setup decent boards that have several points of interaction with fewer summons, they have condensed engines so they can run handtraps that help deal with roach or slow down their opponent, or they can just outright pass and continue playing on your turn.Maxx has existed since 2011 and this design change only began in 2024+. The idea that you could set up a cope board more powerful than endboards of decks in 2020 is unthinkable.
The flip side of the more powerful decks is handtraps are weaker and board breakers completely irrelevant, while floodgate S/T more powerful than ever and floodgate monsters dogshit unless they are also an interruption.
>>717784226if the opponent is holding Maxx C, then you do
>>717748551 (OP)All I remember for Pokรฉmon TCG that ever since 2020, it's been ruined by scalpers and some broken ass Charizard.
Love Lab
https://youtu.be/KDovNlN5tHM
>>717769160Nigger battlegrounds is giga fucked right now because they went full retard with this update.
Do you even play?
>>717783429What dogshit meta are you playing
Murloc Paladins some T3 deck.
Aggro Paladin, Protoss Priest and Hand Buff Hunter are the issue with HS right now.
Pic related is one of the most retarded cards HS has ever printed
>Ahh yes lets give priest absurd hunter aggro cards what could go wrong
>>717776451Why does it only take 1 energy to do a fuck you instakill move?
I haven't played Pokemon TCG since Black and White released. What is going on, here?
>>717785874She gives out 3 prizes so it's a high risk high reward card.
>>717785028yeah that's my screenshot
>>7177860533 prizes, unless it is your last 'mon.
Are there still scoop effects? I imagine this thing is like a turbo-wall that never dies if you keep picking it up and re-placing it. 360 health is fucking ridiculous. Do non-ex cards do ridiculous damage, too?
>>717787015was axed just like that dogshit archetype
>>717787261You must suck ass to hate a "dogshit" archetype
>>717748551 (OP)Marvel Snap is good with probably the best economy out of any of them.
Don't get gaslit by the whales who complain that they have made it too difficult to own literally every card.
>Hungry Burger got an actual deck in rush duels
HOW MANY HANDTRAPS DO I NEED SO I CAN DRAW THEM WHEN GOING SECOND? HALF OF MY FUCKING DECK IS HANDTRAPS AND I NEVER DRAW THEM GOING SECOND SO I JUST INSTA LOSE TO MALISS AND RYZEAL
>>717784226Most decks can't crack a board then set up their own. They'll lose to the crackback 99% of the time.
OTK is much easier
>>717781561Is it an interactive game
>>717789132Better look at my Kitty Pryde too because I love her
>>717788348At first. Currently in the cardboard version? No.
>>717748551 (OP)>MTGjJust play Forge.
>>717778010Do you not know what Drafting is in CCGs? Not trying to sound rude.
>>717748551 (OP)Why would someone use the 4kids editing of the card frames? That's kind of weird.
>>717784447The game design philosophy started to change by 2012/2013 actually. We went from combo decks like infernity, plant synchro, six sams, and chaos dragons dominating to dino rabbit, wind-ups, and inzektors all of which didn't need to summon more than a few times to set up a good board. Which caused maxx c to mainly just be a side deck card.
Of course over time longer combos started to take hold of the game again with them having ways to end on half decent boards in a few summon. Then we hit critcal mass with PoTE and we just been in combo hell since.
We need to go back to an edison-style format again, short combo decks that just went straight to the point were miles better than these modern decks that do a gorillion interactions just to end on the same generic endboard as all modern decks
>>717760980>>717749467reddit says the game needs a LOT of polish before it can be good
given that it's an early beta i wouldn't worry
given that it's bamco
im fucking worrying
>>717794152>reddit says the game needs a LOT of polish before it can be good
Everything I know about digimon I learned from TTS and 2000s renamon flashes. Is this game for me?
>>717793845they just need to make time travel formats a permanent thing in Master Duel
if they design it like Speed Duels where you can only play "2010 ranked" using cards from "2010 packs", but you can also use those cards in regular ranked, it would be a way to give players more ways to play the game while still being financially viable for Konami
imagine if they release unique alt-arts for Chaos Sorc, Dark Armed Dragon, Caius in those specific time-travel packs, don't you think whales would go crazy?
>>717748551 (OP)No, play the classics instead.
>Magic: Shandalar for PC>Pokemon: TCG for Game Boy Color>Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist of the Roses for PlayStation 2
>>717795584>playing against cheating bots
>>717787885It's so fucking OVER
Watched today's Gooner Series episode and decided to remind people of this.
Left is the uncensored Japanese art.
Right is the censored international art.
Kind you find the difference?
Can* you find the difference
>>717796890Still groggy, it seems.
>>717794152bamco most of the time half out source their game, so the quality depend in which company they out sourced to.
The best example is with Gakuen Idolmaster literally rejuvenating the whole im@s series.
Have digimon alysion dev has been known ?
>>717788348Depends what you consider interactive.
>>717796890is it the slightly faded boob window
>>717796890I placed both on top of each other and kept flipping back and forth, and it still took me a good minute to spot it. I was about to call you out for trolling
>Duel Links has a 0-card FTK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f784VyG6F4
>>717787885>Rush Duel gets all the cool cards and no censored cards>but plays like shitFuck man I really want the Hungry Happy Meal deck in regular YGO.
>>717797398I knew where the difference was, but I switched back and forth between them just to make sure, and I couldn't see it at first, even when zoomed. I had to get my face up close to the screen.
The first time I saw it I thought "they put this in the censored section by mistake, this shouldn't be here".
>>717797523Duel links went full playground mode, there is ton of broken ass skills.
>>717798617You need to kill yourself.
>>717797523This is still shit btw, you can't choose going first or second in DL, the current tier 1 deck is despia darklord so masquerade kills this, and we already have handtraps (veiler, pigbiru, D.D. crow) that kill this deck in an instant, despia and shallomdolls are still your only choices for a near 100% consistency deck that doesn't die to one negate
>>717799032what i really need is to Impregnate this sexy furry SLUT!!!
It's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdgfypTOztc
I miss early hearthstone
but most of all I miss beta hearthstone
>play 2 games of Solitaire while my opponent is playing their turn
I don't even have to say which game I'm talking about, you already know.
What's the Digimon beta like?
best loaner 50 synchro summons mission? I can't do it with tenpai
>>717803039Should've built RDA, sister.
Any archtypes with spell/trap negates that works well with dogmatika? I can beat maliss and ryzeal going second since I just use HFD or lightning storm, going first is almost always a death sentence since Maliss in the Mirror and boardbreakers always raped my board
>>717787670Capeslop therefore I don't care and won't play it.
My favorite Yugioh season was GX by the way.
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I hate that Magic has become the Fortnite of TGCs
I hate that the next set that isn't Funkopop-tier slop is in fucking January so I'll have nothing to do until then
I hate that you can't go one second on any website related to it without being bombarded with more upcoming cards or special editions of cards or whatever
I hate that the underpaid skeleton crew of jeets that code this game don't have time to do anything other than add new cards and cosmetics so minor but annoying visual bugs take 3 years to get fixed
But above all else, I fucking love Magic. Most TCG players on /v/ have no fucking clue what they're missing when it comes to drafting. Drafting is love. Drafting is life.
I'm drafting right now, in fact.
Pick one Rust Harvester, pick two Sunstar Chaplain, pick four Oreplate Pangolin and the next two picks are two Starport Securities. This is what it's all about.
>>717797615it's a shame 'cuz nouvellez are super fun and have a neat aesthetic, but, like, i wanna play fast food slop :(
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Pick 8 Terrapact Intimidator. Seven players let this card go by and it landed on my lap. One of the best uncommons on the set and it fits perfectly on my deck. Do any of you have any idea how good this feels?
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Got another Sunstar Chaplain, my deck is lacking in removal but aside from that it's so perfect I could cry.
This card isn't even that good but fuck it, just rare drafting to play with a new card I haven't tried yet. The rest of my deck can support it.
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I had let this spell go for the sake of a more efficient removal spell but it wheels back to me. Is this even good on my deck? I can't not pick it. 5 mana wrath spell. Imagine the dopamine if someone shits out their board and you get them with this. MTG is the best game on the planet.
>>717748551 (OP)No, because the finance bros turned the games into a collecting/stock market simulator. You know its bad when r*ddit has entire subreddits dedicated to buying/selling these cards for money, and dont even play the game.
And of course this then affected pricing models for the digital product... somehow.
Real card game chads play dominion, or mtg forge adventure mode. Everything else is jewish slop
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I wish I could gift a lot of my wildcards to /v/ bros to try to get them to draft MTG Arena. I barely play constructed and what I do play doesn't require nearly this much shit. Brawl alone lets me play for tens of hours with 20 wildcards spent every 6 months at most.
But of course Wizards would never allow that.
>>717753926Maxx C is based for scaring fags from spending 20 minutes comboing turn 1
>>717805358they're more likely to draw an out to Maxx C than you are of drawing Maxx C
>>717805321i'm still new I only have like 100 hours but I have been playing only brawl with a marina vendrell 5 color and a black blue zombie deck standard is way too expensive
>>717805541Until they make Maxx C a game rule or ban called by, that's the best it's going to get.
>>717748551 (OP)>runeterra died because it wasn't jew enoughthis pisses me off so bad , I had like one billion mastery points with lissandra such fun deck
>>717805163>still thinks that a 5 mana wrath isn't too slow for the gamekek
>>717805553Yeah, brawl is the most economic way to play MTG, while draft is the funnest and the one I spend all the gold and gems on. The wildcards just kind of slowly trickle out as a result of those other two. Then occasionally I craft an expensive standard deck and play for a bit, but the metas always get old fast.
>>717805639I did wheel it, after all. My actual pick over it was Cut Propulsion.
But at pick 9, I can't resist.
>>717766823>>717767472>>717768421eating her ass inhaling her pussy
all day
>>717748551 (OP)just a small correction. Hearthstone was never good. Thanks for the updoots
>>717805771it was good from release till ungoro
>Unironically defending Maxx C
>>717805986As opposed to defending it ironically? That's fucking retarded, retard.
>>717805986The numbers don't lie
It makes the game more bearable.
>>717806163duels being decided by the resolution of one card doesn't make for a more bearable dueling experience
>>717806617Correct, but when the entire game is unbearable, you might as well have one that makes going second not a 70% loss since Konami refuses to fix anything.
https://x.com/saltyfish5755/status/1954521387101721084
MD and the TCG/OCG should just adopt the Duel Links ban system, limit 3 all hand traps and engine starters, no need to thank me anons
>>717807052its a cat, and its fine too!
>People keep scooping against Tenpai before I synchro
>keep losing the coinflips if I don't use Tenpai
I JUST WANT THE FUCKING SYNCHRO SUMMON GEMS
>>717807780>expecting people to stay for you to Synchro when they know they're getting OTK'd as soon as Battle Phase beginsYou deserve it.
>>717748551 (OP)I'm playing Warhammer Horus Heresy Legions instead.
>>717753926Stick your 2 million Ash Blossoms up your ass. That card is worse for gimping anything but meta slop. I will bait with mulcharmy and then maxx Cneed.
>>717766736It's the momentum theory kinda like influencing fate
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THIS is what card games should look like
Big battlefields with some big powerful creatures leading the charge
Cool synergies
Counters getting placed everywhere
No retarded "win the game" combos
>>717760183I miss Master of Destiny Desperado
>>717807780Should've played RDA, sister.
>>717809384So, anyway, I tap my dog, put down Omniscience and then make a million meteorites. GG
>>717809384>No retarded "win the game" combos>in the middle of Izzet domination
>>717767746I downloaded the game on Steam and had a horrible experience. Can't full-screen the game, stuck at windowed 1920x1080 max resolution, I can't see card effects because they're cut off
How do you even play the game with this?
Also the whole thing takes 18 GB which is surprising
>jerk off
>blow an amazing load
>log on to Master Duel
>play 1 handed (cum still on my hand)
>lose every coin toss
>win every game
>still haven't washed off the oil nor worn underwear
>>717793845>>717795013An Edison-style format, but they actually address degenerate playstyles like Dragon Turbo or Norleras and that has good consistent rulings would be ideal.
>>717765087Spoken like a true mongoloid, no wonder you think the modern meta is the best state ever. I'd sooner play fucking base-gym hell before touching that shit again. Damn shame too, early SV was actually a reasonably nice meta
What are the upcoming archetypes in the near future?
>>717811717yummy k9 mikanko support, artmagia
>>717811796Yummy next month?
>>717811796I'm still waiting for the dragonmaid cards and the argostars horse
>>717811838god no that's ages away
>>717811717@ignister, Regenesis, Magistus, cyber dragon, live twin, white forest, eldlich, heraldic, mitsurugi, and dragon maid.
>>717811949>@ignister, cyber dragon, live twinWhen can we expect these 3?
>>717811993idk we still have a few things missing from supreme darkness but we should be moving onto alliance insight next.
>finally reached DL.15
shout out to my bff PEP
>>717762876It's funny, the text is written in the original so all the times Judai said his cards had a secret effect he won because his opponents simply did not read the card or forgor
The entire yugioh anime series takes places in bronze 4
>>717811943Don't be mean, they are female MOBA players, what the hell did you expect?
You don't play them because they are good, you play them because they are cute.
COOL NEW ARCHETYPE JUST DROPPED
https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/aug-11-2024/dbpr
What do I use Ogre on against Crystron during the Synchro Cup?
>>717813612looks like it should be punk support
>>717748551 (OP)egyptian slave girls owe me sweaty duels
>>717813612enneacraft lost bigly among the three but i am still going to play it when it comes to MD
>>717814728enneacraft/killertune/hecanto are brotherly archetypes that are releasing on the same package
>Crossover Breakers: Maliss
>Justice Hunters: Yummy
>Phantom Revengers: Hecatoncheire
What about (You)?
>love armpits
>Konami finally makes a card with "armpit" in the name
Armpit bros it's our time
>>717815054>Hecatoncheireis it possible to play this without having to use ch*mera?
>>717813612Looks like a really promising first wave but I fear that the deck itself is pidgeonholed by locking into Tuners, whereas a lot of Synchro decks like being able to dip into a general toolbox, which naturally includes non-tuners. And while the cards themselves are strong with only 3 main deck monsters you'd definitely want another archetype or engine to support it. I do like that it's designed in a way to have extra effects playing into an established board, like Mix being able to get a pop with Playlist/Loudness War or if it's being used for a regular synchro summon.
But ultimately I have to compare it to existing synchro strategies like Centurion or White Forest. And cards like Loudness War that only gain any attack at all going against a Synchro strategy do not stack up nicely compared to Cosmic Blasar or Baronne.
>>717813612> you can Synchro Summon 1 Tuner??
>>717816798All of their archetypal synchros share the gimmick of being Synchro Tuner monsters who's materials require at least two tuners and cannot be made with non-tuners. Every monster in this archetype is a Tuner, they have no non-tuners. Interestingly, though they have no hard Xenolock, the deck is functionally locked to it's archetype as there is only one other Tuner Synchro Monster that doesn't require a non-tuner; Visas Amritara. XX-Saber Gottems also doesn't require a non-tuner, but is not himself a tuner so cannot be summoned by most of the quick synchro effects.
>archetypes so dogshit they killed their story
What did they mean by this?
>>717817547That their archetypes were so dogshit they killed the story. Do try to keep up
>>717817075Interesting, it looks like Vision Resonator is very broken in this deck, almost like a double extender but the payoff is too poor
>>717817547I think they sensed it had a weak reception so rather than stretch it out with another reincarnation cycle like the later cards implied with Visas Samsara, they just decided to let it fade off with the implication that Visas was trapped in a reincarnation cycle but would eventually break out because he was finally altering his strategy (Working with the -hearts rather than defeating them). No need to double down on something that doesn't work and considering the Snake-Eyes story was actually good I much prefer it to sticking to another year or two of "The man with no emotions attempts to synchro summon a personality".
And yeah it didn't help that every Visas archetype was a disaster of card design. Tears are still the most busted deck ever printed, Kashtira and Scareclaw were floodgate turbo, and Mannadium is everything that's wrong with modern Yugioh card design in a single archetype.
>>717817874>"The man with no emotions attempts to synchro summon a personality"lmao
>>717813612Please give it a Link 1 that lets you search the Field Spell, and the requirement is 1 Level 3 or lower Tuner
I would cum so hard
Why did Konami destroy their own card game with power creep? Was it really just to speed up tournaments?
>>717818193>link 1instantly sovless and dishonest
>>717813612>masterduelmetahttps://ygorganization.com/thenkillertunewouldbeplatinum/
I'm shrimply awaiting for grand archive to get an official client
>>717818773The pixiv filename is right there.
https://mega.nz/file/ukVkDKoC#uNOKo-PKnBIvLXw_0BAF8CwSWm6aua2YAXeUP3Mn6pY
>>717821080Fine since you are so needy.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125777462
Make sure to check out the mega video link.
>>717822254>>717822362thanks, saucenao wasn't giving me a pixiv link, that's why i asked.
>>717822598As tip you can open any pixiv link and just replace the number combination at the end with the one from a pixiv filename to bring you to the page of the art.
Spending gemmies on accessories (not packs).
Nothing in the shop for me until Yummy drops.
>>717809661RDA can't go second dingus
>>717823561In most of these (including the 3 most recent ones) I lost the coin toss and went second
>>717811501.
60 cards btw.
>>717748551 (OP)>Master Duel is just two dudes jerking off and seeing who performs their OTK firstQRD ?
>>717823681How did you survive any interruption?
>>717823734Random example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLiiqtankBI
We're probably getting fuckall next month right? Malice into Ryzeal are two heavy hitters, there's no way we're getting anything relevant for a while.
As soon as the next pack gets confirmed I'll probably start building vanquish soul in preparation for when it drops. Selection pack including support for existing archetypes rarely contains the old cards anyway.
>>717823941everything good is probably coming next year. except mitsurugi no idea when that's coming
>>717824073Mitsurugi is weird because it's been out for a while but it's just coming soon on the OCG so unless they want to make a simultaneous release I don't see it coming anytime soon.
>>717815054Ryzeal and ALICE
Yummy
Enercraft and Killer Tune
>>717823797By believing in my dragon.
>>717823561>be OTK Synchro deck>cannot go second
>>717824385>>717824721Literally everything from the start to rising dragon is a choke point
>>717824859https://files.catbox.moe/efb0xf.png
That Exodia deck is fucking cancer.
>hurr durr I topdecked so now I combo every card in my deck and win gg
I fucking hate this game so much man
sex with sexy furry sluts
Just switch to board games. Terraformin Mars and Brass are a good start.
Yu-Gi-Oh is so cool it's really too bad the game fucking sucks
Negates are the worst design choice.
It's basically saying "no" and ending the "discussion", completely shutting down the opponent.
Other forms of disruption are fairer.
Ryzeal's destruction in response to an activation (just the destruction, not things that follow like Aggregator), as an example, is a healthier form of disruption.
My search goes through, but I lose a body. There are concessions being made on both sides.
Negations are just "you get nothing, I keep everything". It's even worse when it's a high chain of negates, because typically one side wins the entire chain, basically going +3 or higher, and the duel becomes even more one-sided.
>>717824965Kill yourself.
>>717813612Finally, some good fucking food. Look at all that tummy, it's glorious.
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>>717828668This is a video game board. See the image in
>>717828641 and then an hero, newfag nigger.
>>717817874>and Mannadium is everything that's wrong with modern Yugioh card design in a single archetype.What's wrong with mannadium?
>>717803039>FIVE(5) EFFECTS >search, put counters, second search, set your entire hand and banish gy >on a single cardthat card has more words on it than some HS decks
>>717829212NTA but Mannadium is generic Level 10 Synchro spam with a searchable Solemn Johnson.
That's about as soulless as you can get with Synchro and other engines can do that but better.
If you run Bystials as an engine is it better to have x3 Lubellion or x2 Lubellion and x1 Talents
>>717764504Of course it flopped. Instead of being an anime normies can watch or at least linked to from master duel, you have to go to their youtube page to get 6 minutes of animation. Nobody except those already consuming the content will even know about it.
>>717764504What exactly wouldn't be considered a flop in this situation? They're just youtube videos you can watch for free. Did they expect that to spike sales or some shit?
The nice thing about playing meta instead of rogue/petdeck is that there aren't retards breathing down your neck about how you """should""" play it, which is basically just telling you to remove the core and replace it with """better""" (meta) cards.
>3 months to watch the equivalent (in length) of 1 anime episode
What kind of moron decided the Chronicles episodes should be 5 minutes, AND released monthly?
>>717773462Fuck off, you fucking dumbass. There was like ONE format where people chose to not play it sometime and it was fucking tears because the deck was simply too op that it didn't do enough
>>717748551 (OP)careful anon, you may be warned and have your thread pruned for creating a thread about video games about card games
>>717771461Crossout also had to be limited despite TCGtroons saying it was bad for 4 years
I only wish OCG would do that with Talents, fuck that card
>>717830995It's probably a budget thing. You look at the episodes and the actual animation is stiff or CGI. Most of the polish is in the key frames and the voice acting.
Konami made these episodes on a shoestring and is spending 0 effort marketing it, so the best way to get it out there is YouTube and hope viral marketing gets it exposure.
>>717831234>took out crossout for more engine at the start of snake-eyes>put it back in>hit by chummies, impulse, purge or droll>run droll and HFD to make crossout more live>never fucking connect on any of themcrossout is a meme
Konami really needs to take Maliss out behind the shed. I am so sick of needing to run Lancea so I don't autolose to it only to have it brick up my hand in every other matchup.
>>717831619On the bright side, Maliss only gets weaker from here on. The @ignister stuff is a psyop, it makes the endboard bigger and more susceptible to something like super poly.
On the other hand it's hard to hit this deck without banning one of the ED monsters, or you have to limit every name, Allure, Gold Sarc and still they can play with Cynet Mining etc. After Apollousa ban I don't know how you hit this.
>>717831619>crying about MโLICE>in Ryzeal metalmao
>>717822016This feels like Dragalia lost concept art
>>717829929>other engines can do that but better.Name 4 other decks whose endboard is 5 Level 10 Synchro monsters
>>717796890What is it? I'm too lazy to go through the hoops like the other anons.
where's the nudefag, were you able to give us the A Bao a QT with no stocking or undershirt
They should make a card that returns an opponents hand, board and graveyard to their deck and has them draw 6 cards, and cannot be negated. A minus one to make the opponent "go second" just to see the seethe.
>>717833202You mean Fiber Jar?
>>717833053>no undershirt?
>>717833202During the Swordsoul format some fag used a counter trap that locked me out of Branded Fusion for the entire duel
I never seethe harder, what a bullshit
>>717832678Oh, I still can't see it, so I thought it was bullshit.