Thread 717760693

So when is Steam going to remove their 15 guideline to enforce censorship for payment processors if the law prohibits it now? What the fuck are they waiting for?

porn games have been banned for years in germany
i'm too cucked to care

>>717760693 (OP)
fell for it again

>>717760693 (OP)
have you called up Steam support and brought the executive order up to them?

>>717760693 (OP)
>blocked by a brown or jew woman judge in sneedville,libturdia
>supreme court said they cant do that
>chad activist judges ignore them
>chad supreme court doesnt give a shit lmao
>entire trump government chooses to stop whatever its doing because of negress and yenta nobodies in random places
KWABOTC

>>717761102
don't think steam has a phone number

>>717761676
>retarded fanfiction
>gets his news from bluesky and reddit headlines
I really shouldn't be surprised but I'm still annoyed.

>>717761676
>activist judges are hecking wholesome ackshually
good, no crying when we arrest obongo and his man-wife then

>>717762510
>>717762707
Seethe. Feelings are irrelevant.
Those who care the most about getting things done are the ones who go most insane when they arent. Nothing worse than cowards, incompetents and more accuratelt snakes at the helm of something you care about. Youre a kid along for the social buzz.

>>717762707
>Judge Negressa DaWashington
>appointed by Onbungus
>strikes down your arrest
sneed., MIGA!

>>717760693 (OP)
An executive order is not law, I'm not American and even I know this. Retard.

>>717760693 (OP)
You need Trump to sue Steam.

>>717760693 (OP)
Banks and whatnot have 6 months make changes, it's not gonna come anytime soon.

>>717763484
I wonder if they’re gonna start trying to aggressively ram through the “muh kids online safety” stuff then

>>717763484
The Executive Order says they have 180 days they could just change it now nor like they need to wait to day 179

>>717763620
Still the same shit, they have to prove it is actual cp or watever to deny you

>>717760693 (OP)
probably waiting for Trump to change his mind in a week or two

>>717760693 (OP)
Payment processors have 180 days to comply with the EO.
The EO doesn't force Steam to allow any games. They could just decide they don't want the controversy anymore.

>>717763913
I doubt visa and mastercard want to rush things and will try everything to wiggle their way out of this.

>>717764249
they'll just send that Wormtongue motherfucker to remind Trump who holds the power

>>717760693 (OP)
It's not gonna happen because the entire argument they're using (as indicated by Master Card's statement) is that this content is illegal
Also banks are not payment processors retard. All the executive order means is that you can't be denied a loan for a house from the bank cause of buying porn, not that visa and master card have to service your payments

>>717764195
What controversy? they ignored those ausies. And woud paint them as censors now. Other thing is that, when Visa and MC update their shit, thoe terms that got games banned wouldn´t exist anymore
>>717764249
And the people affected by that will sue them.

>>717764370
It does affect payment processors but mostly the ones part of federal institutions. If visa and mastercard eventually change their policies, it's because the banks issuing credit cards from them won't be able to enforce those policies and maybe pressure the payment processors into simply removing it.

>>717764370
>is that this content is illegal
Wich content? Could you explain what illegal content was afected?

>>717764707
It´s very easy: You act as an intermediary in any transaction? You cant deny such servce unless it is for something ilegal

Payment processors are so afraid they're now trying to damage control developers like RIOT.

>>717765032
So...censorship?

>>717760693 (OP)
>4. Libelous or defamatory statements
Freedom of speech.

>7. Content that is patently offensive or intended to shock or disgust viewers.
Artistic freedom.

>15. Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam's payment processors and related card network and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.
The rules and stands are already established by the storefront; payment processors should mind their own business.

Shrimple as that

>>717765520
>>717765520
>1st amendment
doesn't protect defamation/libel

>Artistic freedom
Is not absolute. Obscenity prosecutions are a thing.

>>717765150
>Along with that, reports that any chat messages with mention of Mastercard or specific phrases were instantly deleted, with those users being timed out for varying “lengthy” durations. That is only the case on specific streams, however, as the NACL stream on YouTube was flooded with messages about the payment processor, with many viewers actively commenting on gameplay while alluding to Mastercard’s actions against NSFW games.
https://www.si.com/esports/news/riot-games-blocking-mastercard-discourse-in-vct-chat

>>717764937
It's not easy actually because the businesses this indirectly affect, like visa and mastercard, can and will try to have a say in this. They already use intermediaries to do their bidding, I doubt they'll shy away from finding loopholes to enforce their policies one way or another.

>>717765923
>They already use intermediaries to do their bidding
those will be hit first

>>717760693 (OP)
Looks reasonable to me.

>>717760693 (OP)
We need to call out steam on this.

>>717760693 (OP)
these guidelines are just the normal industry standard, why are you whining so much about something everyone is fine with? if anything you got it too good already with all the sick problematic shit out there.

>>717768935
>standard
>literally added 2 weeks ago
retard alert

Businesses are always slow to take stuff back after adding it. There's 180 days to comply and EOs aren't laws, just plans to do shit. There's a lot of room for everyone to sit down and take their time about this and see where they want to go.
>do they want to risk another rape game controversy
>do they want new guidelines written which means the legal team gets involved
>is the revenue from the types of removed games significant in any way
>will payment processors just rebel in some other way to unofficially keep up the guidelines
There's a million retarded steps they could consider. Steam is big and doesn't need porn games and was already hesitant to add them. Now it continues to be a pain in their ass.

>>717770279
>EOs aren't laws
True, but Trump not being the legislature is beyond modern republicans' understanding of how the government works.

>>717763323
might as well be.

>>717760693 (OP)
>fell for it again award

It'll just get shat up by something else anyway

>>717763913
>Bro give up your thing you want right now and don't drag it out
They have literally never done anything like this, they're gonna hire lobbyists and do everything they can in the 180 days to change it.
>>717765923
Of course they'll try to find loopholes, but the executive order is pretty explicit. The question is now just of enforcement.

I've been using my AmEx for everything ever since this shit started. Switched all my auto-pays to AmEx as well. Fuck these people. VISA and MasterCard are not the only game in town.
>American Express
>Discover
>UnionPay
>JCB
>PayPal
>Stripe
>Square
>Apple Pay
etc.

>>717771353
>look up the sites this is going after out of curiosity
>Girls gone wild
Haha what fucking year is it dude

Fell for it again award

I don't know whether it's because of ai agents appearing like people threat or that we will go into a world war soon, but what really peeves me is the absolute secrecy and gaslighting of all major world governments concerning this. They are all in on it. It paints a sinister tyrannical picture.

>>717760919
This

>>717773889
It's very likely a red herring from banks implementing full digital curency like it has been pushed for a while.

>>717774115
>project 2025

steam isnt going to do shit until MC/Visa either consneed or they try some ultra jewish black magic shit to circumvent the executive order

>>717762707
>we
are you also the one importing jeets by the boat full, retard?

>>717765791
This

First amendment doesn't protect all speech, and obscenity is one of the exceptions unfortunately

Also the EO only covers political stuff, and defines unlawful debanking on the basis of disliking the owner or their business activities for political reasons

You share a board with retarded twitch zoomers that saw asmongold's video about this and genuinely thought it was about saving videogames

>>717760693 (OP)
The whole deal with Zion Don is that he is not gonna do anything productive, but he is still gonna pretend to be on your side. If anything the executive order is meant to pacify the people complaining so they can double down on the censorship later on. That's what happened with the Epstein Files, give the influencers crumbs with the hope that people would just shut up about the whole issue.

>>717776230
Wasn't Ashmedai was in favor of Online ID and anti-porn censorship?

>texas doing mid decade redistricting at trump's behest, only possible justification is his fault because he fucked with the census before
>clearly just attempting to take seats for the midterms
>now democrat states like california are gonna follow suit
>this will then escalate into literally every state trying to power grab for their political party
>no matter who wins, we all fucking lose because now playing fair when it comes to redistricting is off the table and nobody will get rid of gerrymandering
i think we're actually fucked this time, guys.

>>717764370
>is that this content is illegal
No the argument is that it damages their brand.

>>717760693 (OP)
Steam has been banning games for years because it hurt their feefees, they always loved doing that why would it change?

>>717770279
>we don't need porn games!
>bans baldur's gate 3
>get sued
>lose 50% of your userbase
sounds like a plan

>>717764610
Those aussies then harassed the payment processors which led to them telling Steam they were breaking Mastercard's rules so now the processors and/or Mastercard need to specify what kind of content is allowed before Steam is willing to relist it. Basically now PPs/Mastercard have to show their ass in regards to what they deem "acceptable" while Steam sits back and lets them be labeled as censors. Trying to censor fiction is always a losing battle/slippery slope.

>>717760693 (OP)
You're a retard. The white house, steam, visa and mastercard, blackrock, and porn companies are all in it together. Now they took away the right to ban anything and (you) anon gave them permission. Get ready for the entire fucking planet to be flooded with so much degenerate that you can never find anything good or beautiful again. Even schools will have porn, it is free unlike everything else after all. And if you say anything against it suddenly you're a totalitarian nazi like visa and mastercard.

>>717778695
Because the heckin' porn got touched!

>>717774215
Great, so when are we banning alcohol?

>>717765032
>>717765818
I like how mastercard was so worried about their brand suffering because of some shitty porn games no one has heard of but now the backlash is so big that it has outweighed whatever outrage those aussie cunts and reddit could muster

>>717780382
You're a fucking moron. The actual slippery slope is outlawing our ability to put restrictions on corporations which is exactly what they're after. Now they can publish as much satanic shit and porn as they want knowing that you fucktards will back them up because youtubers told you censorship is always heckin bad.

Nta btw

>>717780947
>muh degeneracy
yea ok bro, today it's about stopping 'degeneracy', tomorrow it's about stopping wrongthink which is conveniently attached to everyone's online ID

>>717781924
>The actual slippery slope
More than one thing can be a slippery slope. In this case it's the payment processors thinking it'll end with specific content "damaging" them when it's opening the flood gates that's going to do it.