Thread 717762058

CDDA
>Much better and more varied loot
>Better and more varied zombies. Runners, grabbers, exploders, dogs, juggernauts and many more.
>Mutants, evil fungi and aliens
>Can become mutant or cyborg
>More animals, including dogs and cats that can be tamed
>Zombies are tough and deadly, but they do not kill you instantly in one hit unlike Zomboid.
>Better character crustomisation.
>Medieval autism!!! Wear plate armor. Use medieval weapons like swords and maces. Ride a horse.

Project Zomboid
>Action gameplay!!!
>Faster gameplay.
>Much better immersion and sound design.
>Looks much better. Actual 3D envoirements greatly help the immersion.
>Handmade map instead of generic random generation.
>More intuitive and doesn't require reading 10 guides to learn about arcane things as focus, encumbrance, weariness, etc to play.
>Less menu navigation autism.
>Each item has a beautifully made 3D model.

>>717762058 (OP)
>>Faster gameplay.
Not really. When you're confident enough in how things will calculate, you can speed through events and sequences faster in Cataclysm than any animations in Zomboid ever could. It's an advantage of not really doing animations at all. Thus Cataclysm can be a lot faster.
>>Much better immersion and sound design.
Sound design? Sure. But the sim-autism in Cataclysm is super immersive.
>>More intuitive and doesn't require reading 10 guides to learn about arcane things as focus, encumbrance, weariness, etc to play.
All you need to do is to read the game's tooltips though. The tooltips are really good.

>Im a retard, lets equate the inequatable
>*Socrates shakes his head in disgust*
>List of Pros
>One subjective Pro split into 5 bullet points
CDDA and its only little fortnite kids with zero media experience who have allowed the idea that Zomboid is anything but a disastrous YD tier meme to spread. Im not from some discord or reddit, zomboid has always been a complete joke and anyone playing it was basically assuming the Mantle of the Justed and acknowledged that, picrel. CDDA ffs, if you dont like it, good.

>>717762559
Cataclysm takes a lot of reading to be immersed.
You need to read all the zombie and item descriptions so you can imagine the scenario in your head.
Meanwhile, in Somboid you need to just look. This is why I can do 4 days in zomboid for 2 days in CDDA.

I'm a Rogue Survivor man, myself.
Only beat it twice after like the fucking twenty years it's existed.

Haven't played either in ages.
I always liked making some armour-plated RV in CDDA and then go exploring for artifacts.

>unplayable transexual game
>unfinished train wreck game
What a hard choice

>>717763116
Forgot to mention the /pol/itical shit in CDDA.
I usually just burn every tranny item I come accross, but they are still annoying and kinda take you out of the immersion for a short moment. Thankfully, they are pretty rare.

Bright Nights with mods

>>717762694
you're actually too assmad to make any goddamn sense
We get it you don't like zomboid but as for WHY no one has any fucking clue

>>717763517
Im sorry, I cant articulate my opinions with 3d models, and youve already made it clear that every word you read is torture. Your Gen A is terminal, Im afraid.

>CDDA
Just play Bright Nights

>>717762058 (OP)
CDDA crushes Zombioid so hard that it's not even funny.

>>717763941
Bright Nights has less content than CDDA.

I kind of wish there was an autism game like this that had a JRPG style of turn based combat

>>717764180
Elona & Elin are the autism JRPGs.

>>717764095
CDDA went off the deep end on the autistic side, don't like micromanaging my character's vitamin intake or the removal of the futuristic aspect for realism

So how does one get into CDDA/BN? I've tried it a few times but I always fizzle out after an hour or two. Same with Zomboid, for whatever reason. I don't get why, given I typically enjoyed DF's Adventure Mode.

>>717764095
How

>>717762559
This. I can play dwarf fortress (pre-graphic update) and CDDA as fast as i can type.

>>717764095
DDA kneecapped both mutations and cybernetics. And I'm like, what the fuck? That was the most interesting element of the game.
So I gave on on DDA for BN.

CDDA fags have to be some of the most pathetic specimens on v. they cant just enjoy their gay little game. they LWAYS have to bring up zomboid ( a much more popular and enjoyable game).

>>717765241
Gernigg

Zomboid gets boring after the first hour.

>>717764391
Yeah but specifically I want "four niggas in a row" type combat.

>>717766393
Nurse...

>>717766568
Enjoy

>>717766670
Looks interesting thanks

>>717766393
>>717766639
>>717766717
>LE TRANNY ECELEB!!!

>>717764479
You needed to be there when OneFJef was making videos 12 years ago.

>>717767372
>OneFJef
God that takes me back.

>>717767372
God damn it you made me sad remembering him. I know he technically still exists, but he just streams shit now.
Also, the ArmA 3 version of Fallujah or whatever map he played way back in 2 actually put a reference to him in it. That road sign he shop up in one of his clips saying "Look guys, I'm a hick!" is actually filled with bullet holes in the newer version.

>>717767372
Ecelebs are not crucial to enjoying a game.
They only exist to be made fun of and to troll.

>>717762058 (OP)
Zomboid is one of my favorite games but I just can't get into CDDA tried multiple times, it's a struggle to do much of anything and I visually can't tell what is going on or what i'm looking at.
I've tried all kinds of different start scenarios and I always just basically start it up, try to look around to see what is going on and have zombies teleport on top of me and kill me before I can even figure out where I am or what is around me.
I like complex autistic systems but feel like the overall graphics are just below the threshold of what I can tolerate. Wish there was a UI overhaul or something for it.

>>717768009
I'm just saying I found about CDDA through him. I loved his Movies Lp fondly amd the cocaine ninja from cdda ofc. I miss high school.

>>717768313
But, as a based non-zoomer, I enjoy PLAYING the games myself more than watching ecelebs play the game.

>>717768486
I was a kid. Kids learn about games from ecelebs, not from /v/

>>717762058 (OP)
The ultimate problem with Cataclysm is all the forks.

We had just CDDA, but Kevin and his friends are retarded narcissistic unlikable pricks, so a few devs left and made Bright Nights. DDA is still the biggest project, so it attracts passionate devs, who then get run out by the trannies running it and splinter off to make their own forks. Now we have CTLG and CLD and CBN and god knows what else. Which one should you play?? Who cares!! It's the classic open source problem.

You should play Bright Nights instead of DDA because it drops a lot of DDA's autistic unfun simulation fetishism

>>717763116
>>717763364
>retards are too tech-illiterate to just remove them from their copy

>>717768754
It's better to learn about games from fellow passionate gamers like on /v/ but also on Discord, game trailers or even in real life than soulless ecelebs.

>>717765153
I know what they did to cybernetics, but what did they do to mutations?
I had an old project with a fork of the source code where I was fixing shit and I was gonna fix the neutered cybernetics since I could see what was fucked with that.
but what was with mutations?

>>717768915
>It's better to learn about games from fellow passionate gamers like on /v/
And yet you haven't even tried to provide guidance to any of the anons itt that have expressed difficulty getting into this game. It's almost like you're a hypocrite grandstanding on your perceived (and completely non-existent) superiority.
I deem you a jew that wants to dictate people's behavior while not practicing what he preaches.

>>717769152
Ecelebs are soulless kikes who only care about profit.
I would rather interact with gamers on an equal level than worshipping some cunt and the ground they walk on.

>>717769152
>And yet you haven't even tried to provide guidance to any of the anons
not that anon, but aren't you just bitching about the same thing YOU ALSO aren't doing?

>>717768915
Sure thing, but I was like 14 when CDDA came out. 4chan for me was just /b/, a shock site basically. Youtube wasn't as bad back then. AVGN was making that shitty movie, so Motherfucker Mike took over, Awesome Video Games got refurbished into Video Games Awesome, early Yogscast, early PewDiePie. It wasn't all that bad.
There was no Discord before college. All I had was my Minecraft server (KFPMC)'s TeamSpeak.

>>717769365
You don't interact with gamers because you obviously don't play video games. This will be the end of our conversation as you are incapable of discussing video games.
>>717769379
I am one of the anons that can't get into this game. Nice try, shlomo.

>>717768812
Are any of the forks fun and worth playing with unique and interesting enemies, locations, items and mechanics or are they all just worse DDA?

>>717769017
>but what was with mutations?
Modern DDA doesn't really let you stack mutations.
Old DDA and BN kind of let's you stack mutations however far you can take it. Whether that makes you godlike or your character just ceases to function due to negative side effects stacking.

>>717769602
>Made up garbage
Nigger, I played 6 hours of video games just today.
Unlike you who only watches kikes play them.
God I wanna crush your skull and rip out your spine you annoying cunt!

>>717769661
perfect.
if I ever get back into my autism drive that had me try (and technically succeed) to fix their janky electronics (phones and computers) UI and functions and memory transfers I will add that to my list.
always better to talk to people first about how something played (and test) rather than just look at their fucking spaghetti mess.

the camera app on CDDA phones is actually really fucking cool but half the code surrounding that shit is more than 10 years old and had been chopped up and moved around over the years.

>>717762058 (OP)
Love the enemy variety and lore in CDDA but visuals and gameplay has to go to Zomboid so its PZ
If only there was a game that combined the two

>>717769863
interesting thought.
C:DDA, due to the way it works, is forced to be single threaded in order for all the timing stuff to mesh together properly.
but maybe there is a place for higher level graphics to exist on a second thread reading off of what the first thread is displaying

>>717769610
Bright Nights is what CDDA was before they doubled down on faggotry, vitamins and strapped storage while dismissing the cyberpunk 5 minutes into the future setting with present day, present time.

>>717769610
NTA, but it's entirely subjective. CDDA main fork undeniably has the most content but so much of it is questionable factionshit, OC character bullshit, questionably balanced and implemented, autistic nutrient managment, and arbitrary interaction requirements/blocks. It is more but unless you explicitly agree with the vision of the team I wouldn't really call it better than the rest.

The other anon is 100% right though, despite my clear dislike of it I can't really recommend a specific other fork instead because of how fractured the community is now and how much they all step on each others toes.

>>717770373
>>717770451
Yeah, but what are CTLG and CLD?
Do they have cool unique stuff? Are they worth checking out or are they just CDDA but less content?

>>717770603
I will answer and tell you no.
the sad thing is that bright nights is a lot more limited overall, same for any other forks.

>>717770802
I thought there are tons of mods that are compatible with BN, rather than DDA.

>>717770802
It would be cool, for example, to have a medieval fork, an ancient rome fork, a pirate themed fork, etc, like a total concversion mod, even if they had less content than the main game.

CDDA has infinite potential and that's what really matters, as of right now CDDA is still better just for the fact that it has a bazillion of things to see and interact with, for the sandbox game that it is that's a good thing, i'd say the challenge is higher in CDDA too thanks to monster evolution and is especially higher if you are playing CTLG, a fork that reduces item spawns of all kinds

oh wow a standalone CDDA thread
>instantly compare to zomboid
im out, you anons have fun

>>717770938
phew lad.
you are asking for a LOT of work.
remaking the buildings for map generation would be PAINFUL.

>>717770954
CDDA threads will mention Zomboid like Mother threads have to mention Undertale

>>717771098
Why do you think I am not doing it myself?

>>717770954
>everyone stopped talking about it
>random nigger cries about it

>>717770954
CDDA and Zomboid coexisted and competed the entire time. Like Goku and Vegeta, like Minecraft and Terraria.

>CataBN
>Last Flight scenario
>start with gyrocopter
>find a military humvee while flying around
>remove the mounted MG turret
>add the turret to my gyrocopter
>mfw i am now an air-mobile machinegun nest
>mfw gunning down hordes of zombies in the megastore parking lot while perched safely on the roof

>>717771172
because the vast majority of the people who will complain about C:DDA are too tech illiterate to even remove the tranny stuff they complain about.
which is by far one of the easiest things to change about the game since NONE of that is tied to the source code.
its all in javascript files you can edit in notepad.

>>717764479
>Same with Zomboid, for whatever reason.
At least with zombiod I go into the settings change zombie count to max and then turn off respawns. That way I get a ton of zombies but they don't just appear out of thin air (something I hate). They do still wander from place to place though so you are not totally safe just from clearing an area.
At the beginning you basically focus on immediate survival and work with whatever is around you (in a lot of cases that is the most fun part of the game especially if you don't have the map memorized since you get to explore and look for a good defensible location while trying to survive).
Acquire basic weapons, food/water and shelter to make it through the first night.
From there try to get a car of some sort running since it substantially increases your survivability and mobility.
Then acquire more food, gas, generator, skill magazines to craft and repair stuff.
One you've got a sustainable relatively safe base you can start crafting shit, setting up farms, upgrading your vehicle with pristine parts, getting a box truck and trailer to haul large amounts of shit.
Tear down existing houses, upgrade your base, build walls, set up large water containers, refrigeration, etc.
At this point you're probably a good 40 hours in, then you can focus on grinding your characters stats and combat. Since I have respawn off I typically will try to clear out a town which probably takes like 100 hours or so for the smaller ones.
There are also lot of mods that can add more vehicles, weapons, NPCs (but they are kind of shit) etc.

I also generally will backup my saves even though it is against the spirit of the game, I like the grind but not enough to do it from scratch every time.

>>717762058 (OP)
I don't really even consider CDDA to be a proper video game, it's more like a casual time waster like elder scrolls or rpg maker games.

Where do I find good armor?
Is the only way to get good armor early on as a weak character killing a zombie cop and cleaning the armor of the gunk using the washboard?
Running around in a halter top and nanoskirt is nice but they won't save me from the stronger mutated zombies once they start spawning.

>>717767372
>OneFJef
Man won at life, abandoned the internet and became a dad.

>>717771528
CDDA has an easy mode too and the zombies do not respawn if you pulp them after killing them.

>>717771572
pawnshops can give you some interesting finds, sometimes. as can mansions.
survivor zombies are another good find that can sometimes drop nicer gear.

the best armor you can get in C:DDA is most often stuff you make yourself, and its a grind to get there.

>BN removes FILTHY tag and filthy clothing
>Half of the mods are broken

cdda imploded again cuz a dev either got tired of kevin's shit or something
so he released his steam version instead. no idea what are the differences. happened 2 months ago

>>717764479
There are recent tutorials on Youtube that you can look up, there is also a website that will let you check up details about any item/location/monster called Guide to the Cataclysm.

>>717771768
>pawnshops
>mansions
High risk areas! You need armor to get trough these places in the first place unless you cheese with night vision.

>>717762058 (OP)
I don't know, probably the game that doesn't drop ten different flavors of tranny socks in the first hour of gameplay

>>717771902
uh.... no?
no you don't.
sounds more like you suck and/or lack patience.
mansions are done slow and steady, pawnshops are done quietly at night, and you don't need night vision to do it.

>>717772031
Mansions are full of zombies and ferals. Even getting close to it, there will be 10 zombies outside and by the windows.
Can't go in there without a solid weapon and armor. I need to find the armor first, level up my skills, then brave the mansion.

>>717772313
you kite them and lure em one by one, dude.

>>717771768
>play years ago
>get good at melee
>start trying to work towards a diamond katana + finding that one book
>decide to see if i can get lucky and find the book first
>never find it

>>717772313
actually wait, wait.
did you pick a starting fighting style at all?
what fighting skills DO you have?

>>717772445
1 melee.
2 blunt.
1 dodge.
Brawling.
And a hammerhead glued to a long stick.

>>717771806
If you are talking about Cataclysm The Last Generation its a fork focused on rebalancing the game, not necessarily by debloating it but by making the game harder (by making stuff harder to find mostly), reworking mechanics and generally adding more quality than quantity

>>717772313
You are not supposed to get hit ever, that is why armor initially is not that useful, its better to avoid being overburdened and lowering dodge

>>717772603
ok, and how long have you been in the world?
seen any mutant varients of zombies yet? or just stuff like zombie, tough zombie, etc?

because that is good enough to try for it.
another thing you can do, that takes a bit of time, is to get a knife, preferably a scalpel off of a medical zombie, and dissect everything when you have time
EVERYTHING.
it teaches you anatomy, and then weakspots.
weakspot knowledge, as you learn more about each kind of creature, will let you hit where it hurts consistently, and avoid hitting armored spots much more often
it makes you far more dangerous

Project zomboid is only good for multiplayer and the music mod.
CDDA is best for singleplayer
CLG is best after you've played CDDA enough.
CBN is not good.

>>717772734
to be fair, most GOOD armor is based on being light and tough, while not that good against blunt.

>>717772603
another thing, the knowledge you get from dissecting stuff, once you get past anatomy, can also make it harder for them to dodge you.
this specifically affects child zombies, I think.

>>717772734
So train dodge? Dodge is unreliable in my experience because if you get hit once, the pain will cripple your further dodges so it's essentialy one hit and you die even if you dodge the other 95% of hits.

>>717772814
>another thing you can do, that takes a bit of time, is to get a knife, preferably a scalpel off of a medical zombie, and dissect everything when you have time
Thanks, bro. I will try that.

>>717773089
dodge becomes essential over time.
it makes certain fighting styles very powerful because block by default will not stop all damage, unless you have certain weapons.
dodging lets you avoid all damage.
the brawling style you get by default is fairly shit until you just about master it.

>>717771605
Really? It's nice to finally learn he got a happy ending.

Does dissecting help you fight all monsters in a group or only one monster?
Will dissecting oversized wasps help you with giant wasps or dissecting tough zombies help with hulks? Otherwise, dissecting most enemies I can currently kill without risking my life seems pointless.

>>717773089
further more, if you fail to dodge something you can still succeed to block it.
its layers of defense as you get better.

oh, and the dissection thing.
it takes a while so you need to be in a safe spot and be ready to wait.
if you don't have a scalpel I think a butchers knife is the next best thing, but I could be wrong.

>>717773550
it depends.
different monsters give progress towards different "sets" of knowledge.
but oversized wasps and regular wasps would be the same thing.
think of it as a tech tree that goes into branches.
if you are at the bottom and dissecting stuff from something specialized, it starts you with learning the trunk, the foundation.
you will be able to see what stuff you are learning and what it may lead to.
it will help, but more specialized enemies have additional things that require additional knowledge from dissecting them specifically.
going after guys with kevlar is universal knowledge for dealing with armored clothing, I believe.
there is another one for natural armor

>>717773089
Dodge is unreliable but as long as you don't get hit too much it will let you avoid most attacks, its extremely hard to find armor that will let you tank basic monsters hits completely in the beginning of the game, you will at best find armor that is decent but you will still take some damage and you will take it more often since your dodge stat is lower, keeping speed/stamina/dodge high are essential to avoid surprises.

>>717773550
as you progress with dissection, you start with going after everything you can safely kill.
regular zombies and kids are preferred, maybe a dog here and there, etc.
regular zombies are the first to become worthless to dissect, and at THAT point you can start going for specialized knowledge on the side, instead of spending a few days going through EVERYTHING you kill.

CDDAtroons have to cut open their zombies to study their atonomy or else they won't be able to hit them.
Another win for us ZomboidCHADS!

Is there any reason to wear boots? You wild think that in the apocolypse boots would be the best footwera, but they slow you down which is deadly in this game and I think I got only hit in the legs once or twice and the boots do not even have 100% coverage. Sneakers seem like the best choice prior to armor which is really odd.

>>717762058 (OP)
don't forget
>CDDA is literally free

>>717766670
Metal Max is better and I get to kill Trans

>>717767372
>OneFJef
I miss this fucker so much.
>>717771605
Glad to know he is doing good at least.

>>717776328
Both are free if you have at least very basic computer literacy.

Alright, how do I get into CDDA?

>>717768812
BN feels like a massive downgrade when I tried it. Can't even press e on random screens to get item details.

>>717771572
Looting riot gear from zombie swat is probably the easiest way to start with armor.

>>717769863
zed zone kinda scratches that itch

>>717776365
Bias Vlad is a such a cool boss

>>717776620
To fight zombies you need:
Low encumbrance. Unless you have armor, encumbrance is deadly.
No pain. Pain is deadly.
Fresh transition. Once you get to weary, attacks will take 400% as many turns which will obviously kill you.

Good beginner weapons include the quarterstaff, cudgel or wooden spear. The spear can hit from 2 tiles away.

After that, try kiting zombies by getting 2 tiles away, waiting for them to approach, attacking with a fast weapon and getting away again until they die. Anything non-zombie is very deadly unless small harmless animals like geese.

Also to learn skills effectively you will neede high focus. Focus will drain as you level your skills and slowly move towards your morale.

As a beginner, avoid cities and towns like the plague and only loot rural locations. After doing the practice recipees from the crafting menu and crafting a solid beginner weapon, you should be able to handle single zombies and clear out minor areas like light industry, farms (unless there are zombie cows which are deadly) and shacks and sewage treatment plants by pulling single zombies and 1v1ing them but do not overdo it and watch your stamina, pain and transition.

You can turn normal water into clean water by boiling it over a fire in a fireproof container. It will take longer to boil the more water there is. Start a fire in a fireplace or brazier with a flint and steel or match and paper. If you start a fire outside of a fireplace or brazier, it will kill you. I think only wood or gasoline can fuel fire. I tried to fuel a fire with corpses and it did not work.

Early food can just be looted from pre-apocolypse areas like cars, orchards and houses. BVasements provide basic refridgeration.

For an easy start, pick a hunting lodge as a default location, as those have beds, fireplaces, water barrels, bath tubs for storing waret and a basement for storing food.

>>717777336
Finding one will be painful and the armor will probably be damaged but I guess I have a goal now.

>>717777672
Mine entrances are also pretty easy
Normally fenced off so great for pointy stick fighting and you can expect most enemies to be the same type

>>717776620
don't get too attached to your first dozen or so characters, in fact feel free to play like a suicidal retard at first just to test what you can/can't realistically survive and try some of the wackier traits
early game priorities are weapons, tools, clothes esp. a decent backpack, transportation (bikes are often in workable shape, running cars are rare but not impossible to find) and books roughly in that order, with a goal of establishing a base outside of the city ASAP so you can build up your skills and gear in relative safety. Food is everywhere in the early game so don't load yourself up on it. Also be prepared to ditch items before a fight if you can't otherwise avoid it, engaging in melee on a low-skill character with a fully loaded backpack is essentially a death sentence
night raiding is VERY powerful, even if it's a lot less easymode than it used to be. Night Vision trait + a shopping cart can let you strip entire neighborhoods dry in a single night with very little risk
Always remember that CDDA is turnbased and you shouldn't ever feel pressured. Just take your time, play it safe and check your keybinds if you can't remember how to do something

>>717762058 (OP)
>CDDA
Based Kev holding the Thin Red Line

>>717778380
I literally always play as the same guy.

>>717777672
>As a beginner, avoid cities and towns like the plague
nah.
problem is you don't know how to climb.

>>717777881
dunno if its still around but the breacher vest swat zombie and his shotgun is really cool.
its one of the fastest guns in the game to draw (from the vest) and holds more shots than a doublebarrel sawed-off.

>>717762058 (OP)
Soon(tm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6P4my3k8Q

>>717779085
>Climb on building
>Lose your weapon because you need both hands to climb
>You are now stuck on a rooftop with 20 zombies below you waiting for you to climb back down again.
>Climb down again.
>Break your legs.
>Get eaten.

>>717779731
yeah, like I said.
the problem is you don't know how to climb.
save my ass multiple times from zombies.

>>717779731
>Lose your weapon because you need both hands to climb
That happens? Was that a fix against roof cheese so you need a spear strap now?

>>717779797
I guess you can make a spear strap to not lose your weapon when climbing.
But you will still be stuck on a rooftop with aggressive zombies all around, so...

>>717780028
>wear something that can stash weapon
>stash weapon
>climb up pipe
>stash main pack on top of roof
>lure zombies to opposite side by peering over the edge
>sneak back to opposite end
>climb down
>fuck off
>come back at night and retrieve pack

easy.
and unless its a really good spear you can just stash it with the pack or leave it at the bottom.
the ability to leave something and come back for it is more powerful than you think.
I usually use scrap swords anyways starting out so its not hard to have something that fits it, or to just make a new one.

What I really enjoy is kiting enemies into each other and watching them kill each other.
I actually managed to "defeat" a mi-go by kiting him into a horde of zombies. I think he killed 4 zombies but the zombies won in the end.

>>717776620
Well first ignore whatever this >>717777672 and this >>717778380 are saying
Next is to actually fucking download the game
google it if you have to
Then you open the game
open your settings/options and try to memorize ALL THE FUCKING KEYBINDS
then you start the game
???
profit

>>717762058 (OP)
I'm not gonna say CDDA is a better game but all I've seen of Zomboid is nothing but aimless wandering and poking down conga lines of zombies. They talk about farming, crafting, getting a base set up, so I know it exists - I've just never seen anyone do it.

>>717780543
well, some of the shit about boiling water and learning on high focus IS important to think about
same for ditching weight before a fight and going into places at night, same for the early game priorities the other guy listed.

>>717762058 (OP)
i want to make a game with a mix between the ccda autism and zomboid action gameplay with voxelshit graphics
would anon play it?

ignoring op, how do i fix cataclysm with mods? i dont want to burn to death for being next to the fire and freeze to death being one square away. i dont want there to be 1 nail in the hardware store. i dont want micromanage wearing gloves when i cast magic because not wearing gloves will make all my fingers get frostbite and fall off in 75 degree tepratures.

>>717781559
just start with 2 extra points. it does wonders. you don't need anything else. as for nails, just demolish furniture. easy. oh and start in mid to late spring instead of early spring. i hope this helps!

>>717781559
>i dont want to burn to death for being next to the fire and freeze to death being one square away.
Theres no mods to fix this, just stay away or wear proper gear like turnout clothes
>i dont want there to be 1 nail in the hardware store
Not a problem in DDA, its the opposite where 1 store and you have too much. Or don't play with the No Hope mod if you have it on, since it swings super hard in the nerf direction to the point it removes cool stuff like the carrier or military base.
>i dont want micromanage wearing gloves when i cast magic because not wearing gloves will make all my fingers get frostbite and fall off in 75 degree tepratures.
Magiclysm Misc expansion/revamp edition mod which lets you cast with gloves on. Its in Kenans modpack which is easy to find for BN. For DDA, Kenans is maintained by the Japanese and you have to dig through their wiki for it, the Chinese have a recent version that might still work thats easier to find.

>>717783096
this. temperature management isnt fucking hard.