Thread 717765689

you play dogshit games dude

>>717765734
yes i do

>I hate fun
It’s a video game, not religious scripture, accuracy isn’t the goal entertaining the audience is. Japanese versions often have references or wordplay that doesn’t translate to English at all so they have to add something that’s roughly equivalent in our culture in addition to tons of other lines that straight up don’t translate. There’s also the fact Nips talk like fucking robots and it’s boring for English speakers. If you’re going to be maximum level pedantic weeb then play the Japanese version, why are you playing the English version to begin with outside the fact you’re too stupid to speak Japanese?

>>717765689 (OP)
>profit!
It's really fucking hilarious just how easy it is to spot a millennial localizer.

>>717765867
You get what you deserve goyim

>>717766074
Zoomer localizers are going to make them all talk like niggers so I’ll take it

>>717765689 (OP)
Learn Japanese instead of complaining about it.

>>717766074
So what if it's an old meme? You didn't piss and shit your pants because 1990 games had references to pop cultures from the 70-80s

>>717766007
>>717766334
>>717766405
>Immediate reaction from the localizer defense force

>>717765689 (OP)
In Japanese she she probably says something bland and without personality like "Let's proceed to the next race!"

>>717766208
LMAO!! i would rather have nigger talk in video games than the cringe millennial memes with, "i see what you did there!!!" and "EPIC WIN!"

no thanks.

>>717767048
there needs to be a new slur when a localizer takes something and completely changes it because they wanna take over and write something completely different their own instead of just respecting the artists original vision

>>717765734
fpbp

>>717766007
Every single sentence apart from the first one in your post is wrong, you are impressively retarded.

>>717767091
>cringe millennial memes
Those are our memes, retard.

>>717767301
Ah yes, the original artistic vision of the sexy horse girl/idol gacha game must be respected. The original script must truly be on par with Shakespeare.

it has it's moments

>>717765734
FPBP

...I dont get it. It looks just like normalspeak to me.
What should i be mad about here?

>>717767980
if you are too young then don't worry about it.

>>717767301
what- 'rape'? that's what it is.

>>717767775
shut the fuck up, californializer.
people have bitched about your mistranslations regarding everything for a long time.
and then it turned out AI can replace you.

>>717766007
religious scripture has even worse translations
but yes vidya is more important than religion

>>717767810
ngl i kek'd

>>717765689 (OP)
It's called localization, not translation.

>>717767048
>Hello, how are you
ehh too boring
>wazzup my comerade, ugh god am i tired on mondays haha.
heck yes, thank you for spicing up the text I almost couldn't understand it

>>717768136
>complaining about localisers in a 2025 release, but somehow they've all been replaced by AIs

>>717769071
>retarded californizer is actually too stupid to understand the differences between "can" and "have"

the state of education, folks

>>717767091
What the balls? Those memes are still hilarious.

>>717768740
and i hate it
translation > localization

>>717765689 (OP)
>what if we made this game incredibly dated before it even comes out?
The day that AI eliminates 'localizer' jobs can't arrive fast enough.
Yes, I do read MTL light novels. No, I don't give a fuck about the wrong gender being in certain paragraphs.

>>717765689 (OP)
The meme horse has meme lines!!!??
Compare the official wording then retard

>>717766334
i pick the english version because i assume any reasonable person would make it the same thing just in english
>>717766007
i get wordplay but why cultural references? i imagine these are things non japanese speaking people can learn about with time. decreasing their exposure to it by taking it out wont help
>>717767775
yes whatever the horny guy that decided to make horses with tits has to say is more important than whatever the localizer has to say
not to mention its just annoying to see people trying to write in memes even in games that are originally in english

>>717770271
you're a faggot but i too would like to see the original wording

>>717765734
fpbp
this retarded slop is the biggest raid in /v/'s history

it sucks that not enough people are complaining about the bad localization for this game.
i want to see the character that the japanese people loved enough to turn it into a multimillion dollar franchise, not some californian's ability to rewrite characters into a caricature of a saturday morning cartoon character.

>>717770271
im not checking if the original japanese text references an english meme

>>717768136
Two more weeks, two more weeks

>>717770171
>dated
this is a 20 year old meme, i think they're fine

You guys should read what Richard Lattimore wrote in his introduction to his translation to the Illiad, or what Tolkein wrote about translating Sir Gawain and the Green Knight or what Haruki Murakami's translators have said about translating his novels.

Literal translations are shit, learn Japanese if you want that. That isn't to say that localizations don't go too far, but if you're arguing on principal that translations should only ever be the exact literal words devoid of any context, meaning or poetry, then save us all some time and troon out and join the 52% because you're clearly autistic as fuck.

>>717770427
He says about the cartoon meme horse girl

>>717770639
very good point you made there, reductionist.

>>717766208
>mfw my localization choices are obnoxious quirkniggers, actual illiterate niggers or straight up AI translations
naruhodo...

>>717770605
>muh literal translations
no one was asking for those, californializer.
you are a nigger trying to shift the goalposts to cover for your bullshit.

>>717765734
KEK

>>717765734
FPBP. Gachaniggers are subhuman.

is this the thread

>>717766007
I'm done giving translators leeway when many have openly admitted they enjoy fucking with them to make people mad.
>often have references or wordplay that doesn’t translate to English at all so they have to add something that’s roughly equivalent in our culture
No, they don't. You reminded me of Stein's Gate translating @channel memes to fucking reddit memes.

>>717770725
You’re making this point about a literal joke character, dumbfuck

>>717765689 (OP)
Just learn the language

>>717770741
Luckily It'll all be AI translated in a decade.

>>717771207
No, translate it literally instead

>>717771170
Oh god the horror

>>717770605
>Literal translations are shit, learn Japanese if you want that. That isn't to say that localizations don't go too far, but if you're arguing on principal that translations should only ever be the exact literal words devoid of any context, meaning or poetry
the translation for this game went too far.
the characters are saying things that are not even referenced in the original script.
pretty sure most people would be mad if the thing they made got translated like this into a foreign language.

>>717765689 (OP)
reddit localization for reddit gacha

why are canadians complaining about english localization? you already know chinaman kanji, so just learn JP for real
the english script is totally irrelevant to your interests or problems, so stop crying unless somebody out there is paying you to cry
>>717771207

>>717766074
you say that but everytime you see any kind of "do you remember 'x'" you get nothing but larpers. it could be some faggot trying to impress an older generation.

>>717771359
I'm not a total sycophant subhuman like Toby Fox, so I wouldn't give a trillionth of a shit how anything I wrote is translated. English is God's language, sorry.

How does this affect you?

>>717771220
i've played enough eroge to know the evils of MTL

>>717765689 (OP)
>nobody posting the line from the original script
Opinions disregarded

>>717771586
my brother was trampled by a horse

>>717771586
It gives you incorrect impressions of the characters when the translators insert themselves into the script this way. This isn't even Gold Ship's sense of humour.

>>717765734
Holy shit OP, anon got you and me off guard

>>717771376
>translators shouldn't have to do their jobs properly
Imagine if you applied this attitude to translators working at the state level in international diplomacy. It wouldn't be tolerated, and it isn't.

>>717772254
>it isn't
oh gosh...

>>717771205
what if i told you that this bad localization affects every character in the entire game?
the gameplay is not that great so the writing is the game's main selling point; to have it this badly translated IS going to affect the game in the long run.
they fucking localized fried squid into pizza for god's sake.

>>717772254
Funnily enough, I've never gotten an answer for this.

>j-just spend every single day of your life for 3 ~ 5 years just to learn y-your japanese, c-chud!
Yeah nah, YOU are going to translate MY games HOW I WANT. You may not like it, but that's how things are.

>>717772354
>they fucking localized fried squid into pizza
For what purpose?

>>717765734
fpbp, thank you for your service

>>717765689 (OP)
get with the times you old fuck!

>>717765689 (OP)
Okay so what's so bad about this one?

>>717772508
learn the culture retard, it’s not my fault you were placed in special ed.

>>717772326
Why is that an issue?

>>717768972
>>Hello, how are you
>ehh too boring
In the context of a video game or show, yes that does in fact tend to be too boring

>>717772416
And you won't, it's sheer passive aggressiveness to the point it leaks into work. Mentally children for their entire lives.

wish cygames would fire their inhouse localization already.
they were already caught using AI so at this point it's not a stretch to imagine the localizer doesn't even speak japanese. they're using AI translations and then editing the result to their whims, we are actually getting the worst of all worlds.
these clowns already fucked up granblue and relink.

goldship literally talks like that though

>>717772632
Very minimal chance there's a south park reference. Even with South Park being decently popular in Japan. In general these kinds of pop culture references aren't very common in Japan. It's almost like someone on the translation team decided to flex there amateur righting ability, but the only context the only frame work they have for communication is quips and references.

>>717766405
Can you find an example of that please, because I genuinely can't think of one

>>717765734
First post best post

>>717765734
fpbp

>>717773621
>these kinds of pop culture references aren't very common in Japan
yes, japanese media never references pop culture. ever. all buisness all the time.
get real dude

>>717773621
It's a south park reference? Alright I didn't know

>>717765734
holy BASED

>>717773621
>these kinds of pop culture references aren't very common in Japan
This is how you know someone is a tourist

>>717774000
nta but
is it a sign of low IQ or something to hear "X isn't as common" and comprehend "X NEVER HAPPENS"? cause i see it so often on here

>>717774000
ok what if a piece of media makes a pop culture reference to another thing right?
and then you just translate the reference, even if it's possible that someone from a different country won't get it?
i'm sure even natives don't get every reference, even the reference you changed it into is possible to miss for your "target audience". you're just substituting culture at the end of the day.

>>717765734
FIPPY BIPPY

>>717766007
Anons will seethe at this post but it’s true. Japanese is a stilted language and insanely complex dialectically. The amount of random things in any given Jap script could be non translatable to a non Japanese speaking audience. There’s a difference between inserting current year politics into a game vs adding young people sounding dialogue to a character because that’s who they are in Japanese.

Seriously just learn fucking Jap at this point.

>>717774396
>young people sounding dialogue to a character
The character isn't referencing South Park in the original Japanese. It's really odd to act like "young" = "speaks in pop culture references". Hell I'm pretty sure the connotation in the west is that making a lot of references = old person trying to be hip.

>>717774396
Jap is an incredibly simple language because Japs are barely even human. The main complication is Chinese writing that even they struggle with. Their thoughts are limited by their bug speak, but SEA and Koreans will adamantly defend them because they have no ambition but to be them.

>>717766007
>equivalent in our culture
What exactly is "our" culture, since you're apparently an expert on the topic?

>>717765689 (OP)
>i hate localization
and i hate foreignization, nobody wants to read noodles to understand the game faggot

>>717765734
fpbp

>>717774934
>Their thoughts are limited by their bug speak
That's not how language works. There's no evidence to support that the langauge you speak limits your ability to understand concepts. Expression can be limited by language but understanding no.

>>717766007
You'd fail N5, faggot.

>>717775086
Anon...

>>717767775
>appealing to triviality
amazing, you gonna call us virgin losers next?

>>717774024
Yeah the meme of do thing > ??? > profit came from south park, originally
The underpants gnomes episode if you're curious

This thread is fucjing retarded.

>>717774326
if you wanna blow a gasket every time someone substitutes doraemon with mickey mouse and ramen with hamburgers, that's a you-problem
games are at the end of the day a commercial product, not your substitute for a japanese class
if you wanna learn about the language, nut up and learn the damn language

Nobody cares if you hate localization you impotent bitch. Developers and publishers alike only care about getting as many people to buy their shit as possible, and normies and casuals don't want to read stilted literal translations.

>B-B-But the artist's original vision

This isn't the works of Murakami we're talking about here, it's fucking gacha slop. Get over yourself.

If any of this upsets you, stop being a lazy piece of shit and learn Japanese already.

>>717765689 (OP)
WTF Golshi you can't say that!

>>717765689 (OP)
Talking in memes and slangs is just how Golshi is supposed to talk, so I don't see the problem here.

>>717775086
Welcome to English. It's not fun.

>>717775609
ok but why should companies be ok with people not doing their jobs?
and why should consumers be ok with paying for this?

>>717765689 (OP)
What is the original line?

>>717775712
Oh what a prankster

>>717775712
That's my Golshi

>>717775839
"Ikuze~!"

>>717770441
what if it referenced a similar japanese meme

>>717776037
Wtf ARE Japanese memes?

>>717775828
how exactly is "a job not being done" here?
I don't see any japanese characters, nigger

>>717775702
>Original Japanese dialogue
Reddit の観光客は、ゲームの翻訳者の名誉が軽視されていることに激怒しました。

>Localized dialogue
U mad?

>>717776156
In this anon's eyes the script could have all the text removed an that would count as a translation.

>>717776245
You can bitch and moan all you like, fag, but that's not going to make publishers any more interested in creating more "accurate" translations. There's only one solution to this dilemma for you but you don't want to hear it.

Why does /v/ blindly worship localizers now?

500 kids with gold ship

>>717776334
I mean, if the publisher's fine with it...

>>717765734
Holy fpbp

>>717776098
There's a mashup of megalovania and the part of the mario level thme the koopa's dance to. Nokolovania. (NokoNoko is what they call koopa's in JP)

>>717776468
>You can bitch and moan all you like, fag
Or I could laugh, which is what I've been doing.

>>717773670
>what are Woolseyisms

>>717765734
First
Post
Best
Post

>>717765734
Fippy always bippy

>>717771613
You don't like breading your eagle?

>>717765734
fpbp

>>717765689 (OP)
is no one going to post what she says in jap?

can all the people replying to me with "fpbp" tell me what that means?

>>717773670
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Woolsey

Localization used to be fun

>>717777181
first post best post, newcutie

>>717776491
honestly with how rapidly a defense force forms for them you'd think localizers actually post in these threads all day instead of doing their jobs.

>>717777363
and why are they saying that?

>>717770171
>The day that AI eliminates 'localizer' jobs can't arrive fast enough.
The AI will be trained on Millennial localization, and then on second order AI generated Millenial localization. Far from the end, this isn't even the beginning

>>717777419
because it's a good post

>>717777574
i don't get it

>>717766405
Because many of us were younger and didn't know any better. Now a days it's common to be able to freely swap between the JP and ENG interface. Back in the day, you'd need 2 copies of the same game for each region and then you'd need multiple consoles as well because of region locks.

>>717777623
*Disregarding the workarounds for region locks that existed at the time

>>717776491
>Ugh, these fucking asshole I pay to chew up my food for me and spit it into my mouth keep overchewing the food untill all the flavor is gone. God I hate those guys.
>Why don't you just chew your own food...?
>Oh here we go again with the fucking Food Chewers Defense Force. Haven't you got some food you should be chewing?

/v/ if you hate shitty localization (which I do with my entire being), why aren't you learning Japanese? What's your excuse?

>>717777749
>food analogy
It's more like they down a bottle of vinegar, swish it around, and then when you complain that your steak was ruined they tell you the taste of steak can't be transmitted one to one and the vinegar was totally necessary.

>>717778195
And yet the question still remains, why aren't you just eating the steak yourself anon?

>>717778312
because I am autistic and hyperfixiated on bitching about this one topic

>>717778312
the steak is on the other side of the planet.
the company that tried to sell me this steak told me they were importing it and they changed the product instead of doing what they're supposed to.

>>717778417
You can buy the steak as is from the manufacturer in Japan anon. I should know because I do this myself. Why are you purchasing this wonderful Japanese steak from an intermediary that keeps fucking with the product?

>>717778312
Because I'm paying someone to do it for me. And I want my money's worth.

>>717778531
>Because I'm paying someone to do it for me

More fool you

>>717778495
because i live here and i'm not uprooting myself and moving across an entire ocean to eat a steak.
nobody would have any problems if they just imported the damn steak, right?
i know you're just being pragmatic but fuck learning how to read all those damn runes.

>>717778664
>i know you're just being pragmatic
No he's not. You can learn Japanese, play games in Japanese and still bitch about poor localization on principle. The only reason anyone throws out the learn JP excuse is to shut down criticism. Because localizers are so indefensible the only way the industry can persist in it's current state is through ignorance.

>>717779301
>The only reason anyone throws out the learn JP excuse is to shut down criticism.

This is fucking hilarious coming from a person that throws out the "Y-You must be one of them!" shit to shut down criticism of your own position.

>>717779790
I haven't pulled the "you're one of them" card yet.

>>717779301
well, i'm calling it pragmatic in the sense that i know it's probably not going to get any better because most consumers are apathetic on the subject.
japanese companies are never going to know because they are too stupid to know if there's actually a problem or not. they'll see a game sell well despite the bad localization (granblue relink) and just go "yep that worked, keep doing it".
game didn't sell? the consumers just couldn't stomach our culture, hire a better localization team to better focus on the "target audience".
the fact that they didn't expect uma musume to be popular pretty much cements the idea that they don't understand what people want and these games will keep randomly succeeding in spite of the bad localization.

>>717770605
You should read what Tolkien wrote about a person attempting to localise his novels.

>>717779301
The hilarious part is that when actual translators chime in on this topic, they are almost always against the localizers.

>>717765689 (OP)
What does she say in Japanese?

>>717777749
>dude just learn Chinese since they fuck up Chinese games
>dude just learn Korean since they fuck up Korean games
>dude just learn German since they fuck up German games

>>717780209
That's not important just be mad ok

>>717780248
OK

>>717780292
thank

>>717765689 (OP)
Post the Japanese line. Just fucking post it instead of acting like a localization is automatically bad, I'm sick of retards bitching and moaning about every single localized line in vidya ever regardless of the accuracy. If it's actually bad and inaccurate, PROVE IT.

>>717770605
いただきます

literal translations

What you, a retarded faggot, expects
>thank you for allowing me to receive this

What all non retarded faggots expect
>thanks for the meal

>>717780721
いただき depends
>お引き受け頂き
Probably doesn't have anything to do with food. いただき doesn't equal food.

here comes the bad faith literal translation poster.

>>717780908
You're right it clearly means, "In the dark lord's name, thank you."