Thread 717767358

It's pretty insane how videogame quality decreased on all levels over the years and yet there are fags who will pretend everything is fine.

>>717767358 (OP)
Its because good AAA games are shit now.
So only indie with low budgets can actually do anything good (and even so are restricted by their own wallets).

>>717767358 (OP)
Yep. I've spent years being told I'M Schizo for noticing quality dropping

>>717767817
you get called a schizo for blaming it on the lizard jews

>>717768046
Yeah, he's using the wrong JE- word.

>>717767358 (OP)
Nostalgia addict

>>717768771
Oxygen addict hands typed this

>>717768771
B4B was objectively a shit game

>>717767358 (OP)
2006-2012 was peak video games and it has only gotten worse since save a few gems

it coincided directly with the real world economy if you ask me

but gaming is slowly healing as we can see with all the upcoming titles that are going back to their roots

>>717768909
Every game that isn't old janky shit is bad according to you people.

>>717769248
>but gaming is slowly healing as we can see with all the upcoming titles that are going back to their roots
I'd also like to live in that fantasy land of yours.

>>717769248
>2006-2012 was peak video games
Huh?

>>717767358 (OP)
>pre-made canned physics animation with billboarded fire sprites.
Am I supposed to be impressed?

>>717768553
jesuits?

>>717770048
Your bait is bad and you're a niggerfaggot

>>717769248
>but gaming is slowly healing
Oriental slop with giant tits but garbage gameplay is not 'healing' anything.
The West used to produce games that were fun AND had attractive women. Only once we've gone back to that will we have 'healed'.

It's pretty insane how videogame quality decreased on all levels over the last 15 years and yet there are fags who will pretend it's because of Indians

I noticed in 2015

>>717770053
>>717770686
>>717771686
not arguments

>>717770048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdRLNUGmFC8&ab_channel=Crowbcat

how many times do we have to post this

>>717767358 (OP)
>It's pretty insane how
zoom zoom

>>717773423
Anything after 2005 is the cancer-gen casual era, little nunigger.

1995-2005 = THE Golden age of vidya... if not ALL media. Out of those years, 1998 was the absolute, undeniable pinnacle.

>>717773423
you dont even have a good argument, during those years is where the greediness of gaming really ramped up

>>717767358 (OP)
I mean look at the late Roman Empire
While the empire was collapsing and Rome was being literally sacked by barbarians on the regular there were still retards thinking everything was fine and nothing ever happens

>>717771721
It is Indians and your own timeline matches the trend.
https://theoutline.com/post/3087/outsourcing-blockbuster-video-games-made-in-china-horizon-zero-dawn
>A 2001 study found outsourcing contracts were too small and haphazard to measure, but by 2006, 40 percent of game studios were using outsourcers for background or environmental art.
>In 2008, an anonymous poll of 200 major video game studios found that 86 percent relied on outsourcing for some aspect of development.

>>717767358 (OP)
The funniest thing about the modern game industry is their relentless pursuit of better graphics to the point that the hardware is not able to handle it at an acceptable price point, devs are not able to handle the workload and the better graphics they're trying to achieve suffers from it, and consumers really don't give a shit about seeing peach fuzz on a woman's face being correctly backlit.

When quality drops, people stop buying. That hasn't happened.

>>717767358 (OP)
>It's pretty insane how videogame quality decreased on all levels
>posts unimpressive webm

??????

>>717774101
The video game industry approaching 3 straight years of 10k+ layoffs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%932025_video_game_industry_layoffs

Zoomer spending on games dropped by nearly a quarter
https://www.vice.com/en/article/gen-z-is-cutting-back-on-video-game-purchases-like-really-cutting-back/

>>717767358 (OP)
The Source engine was magical.
I'm still made that Valve hasn't released Source 2 to the public. They could dominate the industry.

>>717773902
>outsourcing = India
Yep it's a retard confident in his ignorance

>>717767358 (OP)
see >>717773838 I'd say most only notice things are bad when they knock on their fron door but then again most of them took those things straight in the vein

>>717769248
2010/11 was literally the beginning of the churning out of annual slop, the successful implementation of microtransactions and thus the f2p model, it coincided with the casualization of the internet, and >>717771686 koreans and chinese can't make good games, a couple of pixels in the right direction doesn't make up for the lack of interesting gameplay

>>717771721
>games progressively got worse and worse in the past 15 years
>indians progressively got more and more into western countries/companies
>you can't blame punjabi hustler saar
this is the level of logic you bring kumar, of course everything is in the shitter

>>717773767
Such a jarring contrast when you compare it to today. We are really going to end the year with nothing but E33 and Bananza. The rest don't even deserve a mention.

>>717776043
>>games progressively got worse and worse in the past 15 years
>>indians progressively got more and more into western countries/companies
Yep anon. Zero (0) other factors have occured in the last 15 years. It's the damn Indians!

>>717776043
I never played annual slop, or games with microtransactions so thats a skill issue on your part

some of the best games ever made were in 2010-2012.

>>717774638
What do they expect is going to happen when
>AAA makes the same game every year/2 years
>live service games exist with free content
>economy is in the shitter

>>717773767
skyrim
left4dead 1-2
the last good call of duties
skyrim
dark souls
minecraft

I could go on but 2009-20012 is the ACTUAL end of good video games, everything after is slop

>>717776195
oh yeah you're just a golem for blackrock, maybe if they hired someone competent people would be more willing to accept bullshit, but they are cheap like that

>>717776248
what kind of arguments are those? I don't play that shit either and there were some good released but it has no correlations with those years being the beginning of the end

>>717776337
>skyrim twice
>left 4 dead 2 that could've been just an update for the first
>>>>the last good call of duties
zoom zoom

>>717776643
born in 96

cope unc

>>717776695
oh wow you're legit ignorant.

>>717773767
>it's boomer shit that people like only because of nostalgia

>>717776515
>oh yeah you're just a golem for blackrock, maybe if they hired someone competent people would be more willing to accept bullshit, but they are cheap like that
Meds. 5 days off the internet.

>>717767358 (OP)
This game was made by Americans. That's the difference brown boy.

>>717776337
>skyrim
Utter shit.
Last good TES was Morrowind.
>left4dead 1-2
Wasted potential, and some of the most flat, single-use-only games ever made. I was actually hyped for L4D1, but it ended up being all around worse than Killing Floor (the UT2k4 mod), AND was replaced by the scammy sequel the next year.
>the last good call of duties
Were CoD 1 and 2.
>skyrim
ADHD toddlers also suffer of amnesia?
>dark souls
overrated Demon's Souls asset-rip knockoff. Worse than the OG in every conceivable manner.
>minecraft
Literal zoom zoom ADHD trash.

Meanwhile, the 1998 alone had:

>Half-Life
>Ocarina Of Time
>Resident Evil 2
>Parasite Eve
>Thief
>Baldur's Gate
>Metal Gear Solid
>Starcraft
>Gran Turismo
>Pokemon R&B
>DDR
>Tribes
>Grim Fandango
>Soul Calibur
>Banjo-Kazooie
>Tomb Raider 3
>F-Zero X
>Fallout 2
>Xenogears
>Suikoden 2
>FF Tactics
>Panzer Dragoon Saga
>Spyro
>Tekken 3
... and many, many others.

>>717776887
It's been longer time between today and 2006, than it was between 1998 and 2006.
Everyone knows that 2007 especially was the dawn of the cancer gen and all the modern AIDS. Casual-fagging, always-online, microtransanctions, online subs, mobile shit, social media trash, remaster / remake wanking ...

Only zoomer niggers who never knew better claim this.

>>717779178
Damn 70 billion immigrants a year

>>717778987
>expressive and dynamic hand-made animations instead of disjointed mocap slop that never fits what is actually going on
Holy fuck take me back.

>>717777669
those are retro, this thread is about modern games

>>717776802
i never said games BEFORE 2008 werent great, just that 2008 to 2012 was the end of great. to make that clear.

>>717781792
>those are retro, this thread is about modern games
No, this is a thread about gaming quality only DECREASING as time went on, with the 2006-onwards being the clear cut out for the decline of video games.

2008-2012 was literally the dark ages of gaming, with nothing but endless trash.

Everything has to use new tech and new graphics or else you faggots call it playstation one graphics. Everything needs to be open world and $1 = 1 hour or be a 1000 hours long. And the next game better be twice as big as the game before and you want to see the pores on everyone's ass. And I don't want to hear anyone deny it because when a game isn't like that you all bitch about it.

>>717773767
God damn 97 was a great year
I want to go back

>>717767358 (OP)
>It's pretty insane how
STFU zoom zoom

>>717773423
Anything after 2003 is the cancer-gen casual era, little nunigger.

1995-2003 = THE Golden age of vidya... if not ALL media. Out of those years, 1998 was the absolute, undeniable pinnacle.

>>717778987
>>717781117
they look skibidi

>>717781994
>Everything has to use new tech and new graphics or else you faggots call it playstation one graphics
Dawg, half of these RTX games that take $1000 video cards look like PS1 games. The technology clearly doesn't fucking matter when modern devs are incompetent and have no sense of aesthetics.

>>717768046
even normaltards are getting aware of the eternal jew

>>717781117
They're both mocapped, but the difference is Valve adjusted the raw movement from the motion capture data and adapted to their art style, their character models, etc. meanwhile B4B just gave everyone identical skeletons and put the same mocap data in and that's it. No tweaking, or adjusting based on models who are taller/shorter etc.

I hate this meme but literally no soul.

>>717782326
You think you're being funny?

>>717773767
>X-COM Terror from the Deep
>Legacy of Kain
>Fallout 2
>Sonic Adventure
>Soul Reaver
>Deus Ex
>Final Fantasy Final Fantasy Final Fantasy
>Pokemon Pokemon Pokemon
>Ico
>Jak & Daxter
>Max Payne
>Simpsons Hit & Run
>Half Life 2
>Vampire the Masquerade
>World of Warcraft
>Doom 3
>Cave Story
>Psychonauts
Whilst there's a lot of interesting games from those years, including things listed here, calling it the golden age only works when in comparison to modern gaming's slop.
Awful list.

I'm glad Valve games had developer commentary, it puts into words why certain things today just don't have the same charm that you can intuitively pick up on but can't explain.
Just the act of using various mocap animations before turning into a ragdoll made killing infected feel better.

>>717767358 (OP)
There's always one faggot who announces how he's in his 40s and claims games have not only got better but everyone saying otherwise is a dumb kid trying to fit in.
No you fucking retard, they actually are worse now.

>>717773767
We really need a board for PC games.
Even lists like this that do include the good fps and imsims and stuff are still half console trash platformers and jrpg vomit...

>>717783667
The developer commentary is a seriously under-rated feature in games.

>>717767817
>Drop in quality?! My dude in christ we are in a new GOLDEN AGE OF GAMING! Have you even played God of War 2???

I want to play multiplayer games now like I did BF 1942 back in the day, but then I realize every MP game is drowning in hacker kidos trying to get famous on twitch and Chineses/Indian RMT armies farming virtual money to sell to western mutts for real money. The last time I had fun in a MP game was Apex Legends because they shadow dropped it and took hackers near a week to become noticeable, and then Dark and Darker playtest because it was fantasy Tarkov.

Even obscure shit like Marauders with no RMT had hackers killing lobbies.

>>717783821
Unironically, it's a you issue if you can't find good titles that interest you in this day and age. It has never been easier to find interesting games. It's just that AAA games are collectively terrible. But nostalgia fags gaslight themselves over their 2.50 purchase from ten years ago to fit in.

>>717786820
Not him but its about the collective experience, when you're a kid its easy to enjoy halo with friends because you didn't know better/it was actually a good game at the time. Now as an adult your friends are playing the new Battlefield on their PS5 and while yes, you are in greener pastures playing some better obscure single player game or even older better Battlefield games.

Its similar to sports, no one gives a fuck about the game years ago, they give a fuck about the one going on right now.

>>717781891
objectively wrong go trade some stocks boomer

>>717783667
Yeah like the commentary where they say they dont oversexualize women. Glad devs listened to them

>>717790007
>to be savvy, capable and relatable within the Combine-controlled world, while also making her attractive and charismatic
That's what a lot of modern vidya miss. There is a middle ground between bombshell babes and Abby from TLOU2.

>>717790152
>There is a middle ground
Alyx isnt on the middle ground, shes close to Abby

>>717790276
With how she continually sucks off Gordon every waking moment? Nah.

>>717781117
The worst thing is how everyone forgot how to do talking animations
There are games released last year that look worse than fucking NOLF in that regard

>>717790276
I feel that Alyx is like Jade from... that game whose name I forget that's never getting a sequel.
She's your sexy latina sidekick.

>>717767358 (OP)
so a shitty scripted crash is good? fucking boomers. play the new indiana jones and see the graphics fucking retard.

>>717785232
real pc gamers have played all the jrpg classics on emulators

>>717790661
Coming from Half-Life to FF7 I played it for like 2h then went back to better games lmao

>>717790728
oh i didn't realize this is a pcbro thread. as expected from /v/, carry on

>>717790661
>on emulators
Poser fan

>>717790836
valve shill mods filtered this now too? absolute state of /v/

>>717769248
>but gaming is slowly healing as we can see with all the upcoming titles that are going back to their roots
What fucking alternate timeline are you living in? Get me out of here!

>>717773767
>>717790661
also not having a single homm/m&m on this list is insane

>>717790276
>Alyx isnt on the middle ground, shes close to Abby
my nigger you're retarded
>n-not an argu-
my nigger you're retarded. log off.

>>717776695
>born in 96
>the 97 to 2012 cope
nah, before that retcon it was 95 to 2010
zoom zoom

>>717781117
Valve pioneered mocap, zoom-kun

>>717785232
Fuck off shit-eater tourist.

>>717791350
>also not having a single homm/m&m
...in English doc??

>>717791446
You can port Alyx to a new game not made by valve and she would be hated

>>717790276
shes borderline manic pixie girl you fucking troglodyte.

>>717767358 (OP)

>l4d1
>innovative evolution on fps games, co-op, and zombie games, a leap forward in game design and technology
>bottom game whose name I already forgot
>its just l4d1 with trendy card/roguelike shit stapled on
Clear disparity in passion involved. Working on bottom game would be outright depressing than being on the project that lead to l4d1. People, stop looking in the mirror and go charge out into the unknown. Stop dicking around in your teenage nostalgia, and go make something new. Also stop complaining on imageboards and just go fucking do it, which applies to me as well, exiting thread now

>>717793365
>not made by valve
I like how you had to include that part.
Did you realize while typing it out your point was already moot because of that VR game existing?
lmao faggot

>>717767358 (OP)
How did crowbcat fall so hard after this?

>>717794473
Cause you are a cultist and never admit they made her even uglier

>>717773767
>1995-2005 = THE Golden age of vidya... if not ALL media
It was a pretty terrible period for movies. And early 2000s music was terrible

>>717781309
you thought you were getting Left4Dead but instead you Left with Dread

>>717785232
Who cares?

>>717796009
dios mio!

el egro!

>>717795206
I think he bet against the RE4 remake and lost in the court of public opinion.
tho to be fair I completely forgot the remade RE4

>>717767358 (OP)
I blame video games becoming mainstream, requiring larger audiences, way more devs, and way more profit. This just made games normie shit made by no-passion, no-skill devs just coding for a paycheck. Decisions made by boards. No one cares about the actual game lol.

>>717790443
>I feel that Alyx is like Jade from... that game whose name I forget that's never getting a sequel.
Beyond Good and Evil?

>>717767358 (OP)
>pretending most posts on here aren't shills