Thread 717771407

How did Valve make such a SOVLFUL UMPC? The Steam Deck is literally everything I wanted in a gaming machine.

>>717771407 (OP)
u cant even play helldivers 2 or elden ring on this above 30 fps,

its garbage

>>717771407 (OP)
it is amazing, I could play games basically for probably a decade on this thing, but i wouldn't because I'd need to but deck 2 or 3 by then

>>717772534
you cant play anything made past 2015 so thats a lie

and no indie slop and emulators dont count

>>717772361
You can with frame gen, also thinking it will run everything like your desktop is retarded. This thing has absolute soul.

>>717771407 (OP)
>SOVLFUL
>big chunky rectangle with no unique or interesting design
The most soulless handheld out there

>>717772673
I don't play Western propaganda games so pretty much the only games that don't really run are FF7 Rebirth and DD2.

>>717771407 (OP)
Too heavy

>>717772939
The soul is in what you are running on it. Spoiler: it let's you run anything you want

>>717771407 (OP)
Why should I play modern games on a small screen?

>>717772939
so what other major handhelds featured double touchpads in the past?

I like the gpd win 4. Who would have thought this could play bloodborne. Literally the perfect handheld.

>>717772768
you cant

most games dont have frame gen anyway

>>717773535
I can and I do, (You) can't

>>717772361
>why doesn't the 1050ti handheld run my AAA at 4k 60fps?
>>717772939
It's the perfect portable F.E.A.R machine thanks to trackpads and back buttons.
>>717773078
It's 640 grams. Use a pillow under your arms.
>>717773154
It's big enough for most games worth playing on a TV.
>>717773403
Is the GPD Win 4 pocketable?

>>717771407 (OP)
>UMPC
ok grandpa

>>717773785
>It's 640 grams. Use a pillow under your arms.
But I like to play sideways on the bed, or standing up near the radiator in winter

>>717773108
>The soul is in what you are running on it.
No its not, soul is how you play the game, playing a wii game on it with numbchucks is soulless
>>717773309
That feature is not soul

>>717771407 (OP)
>"people" actually bought the steam deck
Please tell me you didn't fall for valve's latest beta test hardware meme blunder and bought a Switch 2 instead. It's the best console on the market.

You're literally missing out on Mario Kart World
>a.k.a the most fun open world racing game since Midnight Club
and Donkey Kong Bananza
>a.k.a the best goddamn platformer that Ninty ever made, which makes Super Mario Odyssey look like Sonic Forces
and Metroid Prime 4
>a.k.a the fourth installment of the godlike Metroid Prime series
and all the other brilliant first party games that Nintendo has. You're even missing out on ToTK at 4K 60fps.

>>717774486
Nobody is playing Mario kart though

>>717774537
this, mario kart gets boring SO quickly.

>>717774486
>It's the best console on the market.

>>717774486
fuck you I bought both

>>717774537
>>717774571
Oh no, You fell for it

>>717774942
for what?

>>717774449
you claimed it had no unique or interesting design features, which simply isn't correct

The L and R buttons on my deck are dying and I don't know what to do
please help

>>717774486
>ninty
Excellent bait.
>>717775824
Beg Steam Support to fix it.

>>717776087
The deck is my only computer, I don't want to send it in...
they've also fucked up the trackpads every time I ever did an rma

it's really funny how people throw the word soulful at any failure to sugar coat it
it's like white women calling third world shitholes charming and culturally rich

>>717776319
>posting the tendie edit
kill yourself

Gabe (and other Valve employees) actually use the thing.
Same reason the Steam Controller is so good.

>>717776319
>changes the image hash so he can spam his forced meme
KEK

https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717696890/#q717697736
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/714616018/#q714617250
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/716241983/#q716243657
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/716348470/#q716376665

>>717774942
Kill yourself you retarded faggot

>>717772361
deck is not for AAA you dumbie. thats what your PC is for. deck is for comfy emulation and backlog clearing. you have no idea how comfy it is to play noita, persona or zomboid on deck

Reminder that people like >>717776319
Are brown as fuck and seething over what they can't have.

>>717777269
You realize anyone can buy whatever they want anywhere on the planet on the grey market right

It would be perfect if they didn't use the Xbox controller's dogshit bumper design that's guaranteed to be the first part to break, and if good D-pad and ABXY placement weren't sacrificed for two fuckhuge trackpads which, while pretty fuckin' neato, are useless for 90% of handheld-suitable games.

Valve knows what we wanted

>>717778081
at 300% markup lmao

>>717778905
The d-pad is -not- better placed where the left trackpad sits. Don't give me that bullshit. There's a reason why some people prefer the playstation layout and most people who prefer the opposite use mainly the analog stick or believe the d-pad is only another 4 extra buttons.
That said the d-pad on the deck is ass. And the back buttons are the cheapest shit I've seen.

>>717779113
I'm not saying the D-pad should go where the trackpad is. I'm saying that its current position is dogshit and that it's like that because it needed to be moved way the fuck over there due to the trackpad taking up so much space.

>>717779185
Alright, but then where would you put this trackpad? Towards the center? It'd be uncomfortable and you could accidentally touch either the sticks or the d-pad/buttons. Make it much smaller? Then it does lose functionality because the smaller, the less precise you can be with it. Depending on where you put it you might also touch it accidentally. One of the complaints about the Legion Go 2 when people tested it half a year ago was that the trackpads were big enough that usually your palm would touch that shit. There's no amazing layout that has all control schemes. This is the least bad one.

>>717779498
Well, you're not wrong; a perfect layout with all the same features is impossible. But a D-pad is used for more handheld-friendly games than the track pads are. The track pads (and the gyro controls I never use but I can't complain about something that takes up no space) are there to accommodate games that generally suck shit on a handheld, like first-person shooters. So now they suck 10% less shit, but I'm still not going to play them. So yes, I would sacrifice one or even both trackpads for better placement of the other controls. Hot take, I know, and yes the Steam Deck would be less "cool" without two trackpads, but not everything that's cool is practical.
Also the shoulder bumpers are still ass.

>>717771407 (OP)
So you wanted a heavy brick that sounds like a hairdryer, runs hot enough to fry an egg and gives you 1.5-2 hours of battery life on games from the last decade? Congratulations, dream achieved.

>>717779912
The trackpads can also be used for other things. At least one is necessary for proper desktop usage, because using the touchscreen for desktop linux or windows is absolute ass.
Radial menus for instance are a pretty nice thing to have. RetroDeck automatically installs radial menu profiles so a lot of bullshit you wanna do emulation wise is right there, added to everything you can assign to your back buttons. Same with older PC games (non-FPS even) that have enough functionality that even with your back buttons you don't have enough bindings, because they're supposed to be played with a keyboard and mouse. The console after all was designed to play PC games for the most part, not just those with controller support.
That said don't get me wrong, I'd still myself sacrifice at least one trackpad for a really good d-pad. But trackpads have more functionality than just aiming (and in fact I'd say it's better to learn flick stick gyro aiming than using that).

>>717780167
I know why so many people are called trannies now, when being a passive aggressive faggot is the norm.

>>717780167
The thing about exaggeration is that you can't be too over the top with it, otherwise you just out yourself as a lying queer.

>>717771407 (OP)
it looks like the most uncomfortable as fuck thing to hold, that atick placement is giga retarded, touchpads are for niggers, 0/10 apply yourself, see me after class

>>717772673
>real videogames dont count, only overpriced massivdly bloated triple a niggershit counts
そうかな?

>>717779498
fuck the niggerpad, get the fuck rid of that retarded shit

>>717772361
That's the main issue with the Steam Deck, after a few years on the market people realized the hardware is nowhere near enough to actually meet their gaming demands (unless you just want to emulate, it's great for that).

>>717781448
>Just make playing any kind of strategy game 10x worse because uhhhhhhh I dont like it
Retard.

>>717772361
Can't do that on Shitch 2 either.

>>717781648
who said anything about ever buying a nintendo product post wii? cause I never have

>>717781714
Yeah you did.

>>717781617
Some people bought it for indie games. Most of them run fine on it. Some people bought it for AAA releases, and those won't run fine.
If we look at everything that can run at 60fps or above on the deck without losing too much "graphical fidelity", it can play pretty much 95% of games that exist. Getting a handheld that costs 300€ more for instance in my cunt than the OLED Deck would give me access to maybe 96%. If I cannot comfortably play cyberpunk on my handheld, I'm not going to be exactly sad, when on my PC with a 4070 super and a 5900x I'm not exactly getting something I could call comfortable either and I'm fairly sure no handheld can reach that.

>>717781619
a touchpad doesn't make it any better, and rts is a dead genre that it's not worth ruining the ergos of the entire device for

>>717782073
ultimately, the ultimate portable gaming solution is going to be a pdd that a little box that you can tuck wherever streams the video output to, and gets its hid input from any wireless hid device that's connected to it, most likely a wireless gamepad, although the pdd could potentially double as the source of a projected virtual mkb in front of the user
we are a long way from that though, very few compabies are working on pdd tech and what's currently out there sucks ass and they still haven't figured out the fundamentals of the concept yet, like eschewing keeping the display transparent in favor of just using a camera (or 2, if you want to simulate 3 dimensional vision, not necessary though) and piping that to the output of the pdd
and even if we had a perfect pdd solution already, we still need battery tech to take a giant leap forward before it, or the portable pc block, will ever be viable for anything

>>717773078you have to be either super tiny/a girl, or couch potato tier to find it heavy, I can play with it just fine until the battery drains without getting tired and I'm not fit/strong at all.

>>717774486
>instead
I'm deeply sorry that you're poor

>>717771407 (OP)
Why is there so much black space around the screen?

>>717774486
>which makes Super Mario Odyssey look like Sonic Forces
...but it already looked like that? Odyssey was dogshit, it's not a high bar

>>717783742
LCD model has massive bezels. OLED fixes this.

>>717772361
Can't play Doom Dark Ages either. The Steam Deck costs 650 dollars. Only 3 years old and it's already getting skipped for games. FF7 Rebirth and TES 4 Oblivion run at 540p uscaling 20FPS, Deckie Vegan verified for the Reddit PC fanboys here.

>>717783742
That's the LCD model, OLED model has less bezel but still could be improved

>>717783869
>Doom the parry ages with forced RTX
>Stillbirth demake
>UE5 demake of a game that I already played
Not much I'm missing out on

>>717783394
I play tennis and my wrists hurt in the evening

>>717772361
I had a pretty stable 45~ while playing elden ring on this thing (it is my only gaming console), currently playing through expedition 33 and while it does kind of run like shit im still consistently getting at least 30fps, although i do have to have pretty low settings (it looks ok still).

When the steam deck 2 comes out i dont think it will be unrealistic to be able to play pretty much every aaa game on at least medium settings at a consistent 60. Even though I currently am satisfied with this as my only system, sometimes I do get a bit frustrated that there are some games I can't really run very well (mostly just ps4 emulator for bloodborne, i tried it but only got 20~fps on the deck), but when the deck 2 comes out I don't think I will have the slightest bit of desire at all for a different system.

>>717784618
I'm hoping a but more out of the Deck 2 especially if you put FSR 5 and frame gen into the equation. GTA6 is a must.

>>717771407 (OP)
Can I play Dynasty Warriors on this thing?

>>717785390
frame gen doesn't really work unless already have 60 fps, its irrelevant for boosting performance on low power systems.

if the current deck can run ps4 games at 60, then im sure the deck 2 will be able to run ps5 games like gta6 comfortably, or else it wouldnt even be worth upgrading to over the deck 1. honestly i wouldnt be surprised if it runs decently on the deck 1, as rockstar is quite good at optimizing their games.

>>717785774
Which one? Type into YouTube any game you are interested in + steam deck.

>>717772361
>He needs above 30 fps for a handheld

LMAO. You "people" are the reason the video game industry has stagnated.

I play undertale yellow on my deck, but I find these people trying to play I don't know, shit like fucking E33 on this, are you kidding me? Is it because the OLED model is pricey?

>>717785826
>frame gen doesn't really work unless already have 60 fps
People keep repeating this like the mindless drones they are. I play Helldiver 2 on the steam deck at 20 fps, with 2x frame gen it runs at 40 fps with minor input lag. Sure it's not ideal but what is ideal is different for everyone, I can out try hard you and claim if it's not running st 600hz natively it's not ideal. Congratulations, let's jerk each other off over what we consider ideal. Also the frame gen as it exist now and might exist on a Deck 2 in the future might be differently implemented.
>wouldnt be surprised if it runs decently on the deck 1, as rockstar is quite good at optimizing their games.
You are severly brain damaged if you think the Deck will be able to play GTA6 at any decent level. It is rumored to run at 40 fps on a PS5 pro, 30 fps on a base PS5

>>717786464
post a side by side video of your deck with frame gen on and frame gen off. every time i see a video of a deck running a demanding game with frame gen taking it from 20 to 60 or whatever, it looks like shit, even if the number says 60.

youre probably right about gta 6 but i just said i wouldnt be surprised if it could run it decently on the deck. sure, if you say its rumoured to only run at 30 on the base ps5 the deck will likely struggle, but the deck doesnt have to output a 4k resolution. if the gpu is the bottleneck on performance, then a deck running at 1280x800 could have somewhat comparable power to a ps5 running at 4k, which we are assuming will be able to get 30fps at this resolution. Additionally, I am assuming that you will be able to lower graphics further on the deck beyond the minimum needed to get 30 on a ps5. maybe im wrong and it cant run it at all, maybe the cpu is the bottleneck, who knows. i'm just saying its possible.

>>717785774
All of them yes

>>717771407 (OP)
>3.16 MB, 4000x2252
I ain't clicking that

>>717788786
blame the gooks at samsung

My upcoming PC luxury purchases are as following
New CPU>VR headset>OLED monitor>Steam Deck 2
The use cases for a handheld simply don't exist for me. Every time I think about it I realize there's something else I could spend money on.

>>717771407 (OP)
DA

>>717772361
that just means helldivers 2 and elden ring aren't optimized enough.

>>717772939
>unique or interesting design
If we, as a society, still cared enough about things like that, then the NDS & 3DS would still be on shelves with games

What game to play?

>>717772361
If you’re not a poorfag you can have a deck and a pc

>>717786375
Me personally I'm not convinced anyone is actually playing e33 much less trying to play it on a steak dem

>>717771407 (OP)
They actually sat down and used the thing while designing it, Asus would never.

>>717784156
You gave one of the few possible acceptable answers, I accept I was wrong

>>717773785
>Is the GPD Win 4 pocketable?
its more pocketable than the steamdeck, but you're not going to fit it in your jeans. cargo pants sure.