Thread 717781403

Let's discuss Super Mario lore.

>>717781403 (OP)
already debunked, get with the times

>>717781486
They told us to speculate.

>>717781645
About why Pauline (the same one from Odyssey) is 14 in this game, not about that

>>717781749
They did not confirm that Donkey Kong Bananza is a prequel to Super Mario Odyssey.

>>717781843
They soft-confirmed it by having an established character (as confirmed by nintendo) show up as a child without any age regression elements present

>>717781403 (OP)
>Yoshi's Island Games (everyone is a baby)
>Donkey Kong (Lady is most likely her own character and the grandma of Pauline that she frenquently mentions in Bananza, while Cranky is the Original Donkey Kong, meaning most likely that Jump Man is his own character too
> DK Jr. and Donkey Kong 3
>Donkey Kong Games (Donkey Kong Country series and Donkey Kong Country Returns + DKC Tropical Freeze)
>Donkey Kong Bananza (Teenage Pauline)
>Literally every single other mario game prior to odyssey
>Super Mario Odyssey
>Literally every single mario game that came out after odyssey

>>717781918
There can be generations of Pauline, just like how there are generations of Donkey Kong.

>>717781990
>meaning most likely that Jump Man is his own character too
Wasn't that pretty much confirmed by the movie?

>>717782127
until proven otherwise, the simplest and most likely explanation is that both paulines are the same character
after all, if two of the most famous people on the planet were her parents, you'd expect her to bring them up at some point and not just her grandma, and she probably wouldn't be wearing a torn dress while performing on the street before making it big

>>717782347
My explanation, that Bananza Pauline is Mayor Pauline's daughter, is the simplest, because then, nothing gets retconned.

>>717781843
They never deconfirmed it either

>>717782626
They didn't deconfirm it because that would confirm that it is a sequel.
They want the players to figure that out for themselves.

>>717782564
except nintendo has already retconned tons of stuff before because they don't care that much about the DK "timeline"
it's simply much more likely that they're going with the "void kidnapped pauline, not DK" angle moving forward so DK can have a consistent "hero" characterisation from here on out

>>717782857
The developers of Donkey Kong Bananza who worked on Odyssey would not contradict a game that they helped develop.
Donkey Kong Bananza recycles the assets from New Donk City, which the developers edited to look more modern.
It is a sequel.

>>717783104
>Donkey Kong Bananza recycles the assets from New Donk City, which the developers edited to look more modern
Because the previous game's NDC used a big band aesthetic that wouldn't be appropriate for the big city look bananza aimed for, but nevertheless, was the former was set in the current day

>>717783279
Donkey Kong Bananza is set 13 years after that because there are now streaming services, specifically ones with a "+" in their name.

>>717783537
That's some flimsy evidence at best
Feels like grasping at straws, specially considering that Nintendo already pointed out both characters are one and the same: nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-19-donkey-kong-bananza-part-3/

>>717783713
They say that every Link is the same Link even though they said they are all different Links.
It's called marketing.

>>717783970
That makes no sense from a marketing standpoint, if they wanted her to be a new character they wouldn't have called her Pauline, they would have called her something else because then they'd have a brand new character they could use for publicity
If you actually read the interview you will see that the bananza character is called Pauline because they wanted to have Odyssey's Pauline in the game

>>717784172
Her not being Odyssey Pauline is something they need to announce.

>>717781403 (OP)
Would explain why they say mario and peach are just friends

>>717784872
Yes.

>>717784872
That's because they want Mario to be as much of a blank slate as possible, no romance allowed
It's better for sales

>>717781645
>We are a bunch of lazy fucks so we didn't accounted for any timeline so... err... yeah... ummm we wanted people to speculate yeah that's right...

>>717785180
Same shit the Zelda people do, completely disregard timelines while telling people they care to keep them engaged

>>717785180
Mario's 40th Anniversary is almost here.
Do you think that maybe, Nintendo might be doing something new with Mario?

>>717785557
this is some bizarre fanfic you've come up with

>>717785853
It's just a suggestion for Nintendo.
It's not one of my theories.

>>717783279
And yet if Bananza really is set in the "current day" of the Mario universe, funny how not a single returning NPC from Odyssey pops up-not even a nod to the fact that Pauline was mayor. You'd think the city council or one of the taxi drivers might mention the world's most famous jazz singer pulling a Batman and switching careers. Unless, you know, it's just a soft reboot and they didn't want to commit to canon. Nintendo's real strategy is Schrödinger’s continuity-only exists if Miyamoto remembers it that morning.

>>717783279
Exactly, and that’s where the tonal shift kicks in. It’s that classic Nintendo move-make just enough changes to imply growth, like updated cityscape textures and tech references, but stop short of outright saying “this is 13 years later.” It’s plausible deniability at work. They want to reap the nostalgia without drawing a line in the canon sand. Same trick they pulled when they brought Bowser Jr. in without explaining what happened to the Koopalings. They leave the door open so fans can spin whichever theory makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside.