>Phantom Liberty
>Can't escape to the moon with songbird and start a new life and family with her

>>717794871 (OP)
oh look, a hot girl in a "western" game. thats 1.

>>717794871 (OP)
>start a new life and family with her
You seem to be under the impression that So-Mi is still human and cares about you at all.

>>717794871 (OP)
WIRES AND CHAINS

Why didn't you betray her?

the only way to help her is to betray her then kill her. theres no way the blackwall wouldve let go of her, and her fleeing to the moon is just delaying the inevitable

>>717796298
I think that's the best way to end it. So-Mi knows she has to die, you know she has to die, the Blackwall loses its control over her, and Myers doesn't get to play with her toy anymore. Feel a bit bad for Reed but he chose that life.

>>717796298
she tortured me by making me sit through her backstory so she gets to go back to the nusa torture chair, simple as

>>717796161
the amount of crybaby faggots this segment filtered will never not be funny. full on seething and dropping the game over it, or even worse - the absolute shitters who had to install a mod to skip/make them invincible for this section.

>>717797950
lol

>>717799083
Wait what? People actually struggled with that bit?

>>717800428
yes. plenty of redditors and other faggots i know bitched insistently about how the game became alien isolation out of nowhere, how it was too hard, how it was too scary, or how it was insane. I know one fag cried so hard he dropped the game because its not fair that you can kill a tank but then theres an invincible robot. Dipshit was playing the game on easy with a tank build though so what can you expect.

>>717796013
We can put a cyberpunk onahole between her les and implant an artificial womb in her and use a dna sample to create an egg when fill her with sperm.

>she doesnt care about us

We dont care about her either just wanna bang her and fill her with children
the gov has already basically turned her into a doll we only need a few basic changed to turn her into a breedable sex doll

>>717796161
Isn't it just a basic horror stalker section? A linear one at that? >>717799083

>>717800691
It has two of the best items in the game

>>717800721
Yeah. I just don't get why it would filter someone.

>>717800552
I think I died a maximum of twice due to dawdling and snooping around for loot. You only die in that section by being an idiot. What a bunch of fags.
>>717800763
Mad because they couldn't be an unstoppable killing machine for a few minutes.

>>717800691
>>717800763
yes, objectively its not hard. its piss easy if youve ever played a stealth game before. seriously though, do a basic search and you'll find hundreds of posts of people bitching about how that part is unfair and made them want to drop the game or see how theres mods that let you skip it/make you invincible for it.

people fucking suck at everything and these are your "average" gamers that developers have to cater towards

>>717795835
can you believe they tried to convince us panam was hot for years kek lmao

>>717801087
Weird. I'd played Alien Isolation before this so my only real complaint was the areas weren't more open, and that the enemy wasn't more intelligent. It was more scripted specific stalking points where the Alien was more Dynamic. I didn't think it was bad when I say this, but it did feel like a watered down version of something I'd recently played before 2077 in that section.

That said the fact that it's one small part of a greater whole just speaks to 2077's variety.

>>717801187
I think Judy and So-Mi were pretty, a few of the characters actually. I think my big issue is I didn't have a long term bro character to ride off into the sunset with. Jackie maybe coulda been that guy if he lived. Reed just wouldn't. I can't think of a male character in 2077 that you could just hang out with and fist bump before your last mission diving into almost certain death.

But I guess if you'd had that character some of the endings wouldn't have made sense because that character if not dead would have been trying to figure out what happened. He works for the Nomad ending though where you just leave the city.

>>717801416
i can agree with that. hated how the only romance option that existed was panam. shes well written but a shit person/character.

>>717801416
Vik's about as close to a bro as you're gonna get. He's basically the only living male character that genuinely cares about your wellbeing.

>>717795835
None of the bitches in cyberpunk are "hot" except for the french one that gets unceremoniously shot in the head

>>717801483
Agreed.
>>717801569
I suppose that's true, and I do like Vik, but he's just not quite what I mean. I like him, but he's not the ride or die hiding behind cover with you at your last stand sort.

>>717801668
the blue haired popstar girl was really cute. would have loved to have had more interaction with her.

>>717801668
The French chick was too distractingly hot to live longer. They knew that if she had a bigger part no one would remember the rest of the dlc.

>>717794871 (OP)
She got what she deserved.

Death.

>>717801668
Clouds receptionist is hot. Your argument is invalid.

>>717801668
She's not hot. She's a gross ginger with lesbian hair.

>>717801416
>I can't think of a male character in 2077 that you could just hang out with and fist bump before your last mission diving into almost certain death.

It's Johnny of course!

>>717801416
silverhand could be a bro but well he's not exactly alive, maybe vic?

>>717801927
Definitely wish we could have had a plotline with her, dates, missions, whatever.

>>717801187
Panam IS hot I have no idea what sort of incel you have to be to pretend otherwise

>>717801960
>>717801961
My only issue with this is that he's already dead.

>>717801940
yep. hes probably the kind of fag who thinks that new deathstranding meme duckface twink is hot

>>717801927
french is more attractive, she's easily one of the most attractive characters cdpr ever made
meredith strout is attractive too, but i guess not everyone is a hag enjoyer like me

>>717796050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u15tEo0wsQI

>>717802017
Isn't she a post op? She's the car bitch right? I remember the car bitch confessing she was a dude and I just stopped playing her missions there.

>>717802050
the in game model looks even better than this daz copy

>>717802058
>but i guess not everyone is a hag enjoyer like me
I spent an alarming amount of time trying to look up Wakako's skirt.
>>717802138
You're thinking of Claire. The Afterlife bartender.

>>717802162
Just looks like a lanky irish male fent addict caked in makeup.

>>717802138
The trans is Claire from Afterlife and she is not even a romance option.

Also you are a fucking idiot if you think it is weird for trans people to exist in a futuristic setting where you can modify your body and brain in any way you want. The game does not even ""shove it in your face"" it's just one NPC that exists somewhere. Chuds are a joke.

>>717802017
how old are you and do you also fap to zendaya?

>>717802243
Ywnbaw

>>717802243
dilate tranny you could get your whole body replaced with a fleshlight and you will still never be a woman

>>717802243
>she

>>717796050
>>717802126

>>717801668
melissa rory, we were robbed

>>717802408
Is being a cyberpsycho yourself a requirement for joining MaxTac? Because that bitch is looney tunes.

>>717801483
You can make Judy romanceable with one console command and I think her romance is way better than Panam's

>>717802243
I wouldn't mind it if they weren't selective with it. But in a world like that you'd have people making themselves look like animals, or younger, you'd have wierdos that made themselves look like kids, you'd have people that made themselves look like demons and all sorts of shit.

The problem with I ACTSHUALLY A TRANS MALE TO FEMALE out of nowhere is that she treats it like it should be a thing. I didn't stop playing because she was trans. I stopped playing because of how they presented it while also purging all the other shit people would obviously do with their bodies because THOSE things were too much for the devs.

Remember the Lucy drama? That's the least of what people would do if they could modify their body. 2077 should be so far past someone worrying about having used to have been male but they treat it like the modern day PINNACLE moment that the writers think it is and can't be bothered to actually do something that'd really fuck with the player. Hell its not just older people making themselves look younger. Think of the young person making themselves look older. The entire point is you never know what you're actually looking at but they can't actually dive into it.

I'm not even into furr shit but the beast people are even fucking canon. Not a single one present. You could name a hundred different fucked up things people would obviously be doing to their bodies and not a single one of them made it in the game except the trans movement bullshit framed as the trans movement bullshit instead of as an issue people got over fucking decades ago you dumb shit.

>>717802485
a lot of maxtac agents are ex cyberpsychos, but i don't think it's a requirement

>>717801483
Panam gives me BPD vibes.

>>717802489
wouldn't her lines still sound as she was talking to a female?

>>717802545
also V can't chrome their skin which is bullshit

>>717802408
Wonder what the 2013 era CDPR would have put out if they could make the whole 100 hour game flawlessly in a month.

>>717802545
>I wouldn't mind trans people in a cyberpunk setting if I could also fuck children!
I can't believe this is the hill you want to die on.

Let's assume for one second that you are right and in a futuristic setting everyone would go full pedo for some reason. How are they going to release a major AAA game that heavily emphasizes being able to fuck children, or that adults are in children bodies? It just kills the game.

>I'm not even into furr shit but the beast people are even fucking canon. Not a single one present
Easily fixed with mods.

None of what you are saying are even related to her being trans. Your argument is "if I can't fuck animals and children, this bartender shouldn't be trans"

>>717802545
they even remind the player that near-flawless full-body plastic surgery is a thing in the setting with that one sidequest where the guy thinks his wife was cheating on him.

>>717800428
There's a bit of jank I experienced with the bot spotting you when it shouldn't, so I can understand why someone would get frustrated.

>>717795835
am I weird for not being into Asian women?

>>717802618
I basically romance her every time and haven't noticed anything immersion breaking. I believe the dialogue is kept gender neutral on purpose. The actual romance scene looks a bit weird with a male model since it's obviously lesbian sex so there's only implied fingering, but you can just headcanon it as foreplay

>>717802162
thats a promo render of the same model, flattering lighting and expression make a big difference

>>717802708
>one of what you are saying are even related to her being trans
NTA, but I felt the issue was the big deal they made about it. In 2077, let alone in 2077, full body mods are so common place as to be un-noteworthy. Sex/Gender is just another commercialized aspect of the human experience in Cyberpunk. The only "authentic" self you could be is someone entirely unmodified (and even then you'd be playing in the purism sub-culture).
So Claire being written like a contemporary tranny is just lazy and bad writing, and was entirely shoe-horned in last minute. Claire actually replaced an existing character, Marianne Russel-Freeman, who is a MtF bar owner in existing cannon (in-game files named Claire as Marianne). They cut her out to instead rush in a mea-culpa (Claire) after getting butt-blasted by trannies on twitter from the Chromanticore "Mix-it-Up" in-game advert showing a leotard wearing dickgirl.

>>717803187
>let alone in 2077
*let alone in 2020
I'm a retard.

>>717802708
>I can't believe this is the hill you want to die on.
I see you're just going to be dishonest and ignore what I actually said. All you care about is tranny propaganda instead of treating trans people as they'd actually be treated that far in the future with that level of body modification technology. You can't even reason out the trans thing properly. It's no wonder you can't even figure out that any of a dozen other possibilities that should be in the game weren't because they were actually controversial where your trans nonsense wasn't even a target through the 90s and 2000s until activists turned people against the trans community in the 10s and 20s with the very same obnoxious bullshit you're pulling right now.

>>717802831
Exactly.

I don't like Claire and the tranny aspect has absolutely nothing to do with it.

>>717803508
claire is just a shit person. the tranny aspect contextualizes it a lot though. mentally ill person with a victim complex, delusions, and the type of rage that only comes from testosterone but the shortsightedness of estrogen pills.

>>717803819
It bothers me to no end you can't physically intervene when you find out he was lying the whole time and prevent him from shooting the other guy. You're not really intervening even if you made the 'right' dialogue choices before the race. He either has a melty and shoots the guy or has a melty and doesn't shoot the guy, meanwhile the literal walking fucking weapon is forced to stand and watch like a mannequin.
Yes, I know you can prevent the entire thing by finishing the race instead of going along with his histrionics, in which case he once again has a fucking melty and has a bitchfit every time you go in Afterlife, I just think it's dumb that after the guy explains what really happens there's no option to stop Claire being stupid.
Thinking about it, I don't think you can even be mean to Claire in any capacity.

imagine songbird slobbering all over a bwc

>>717795835
i feel so genuinely bad for racist incels who literally foam at the mouth when they see a woman in vidya that isn't white because Panam is a dime inside and out and you are all missing out.

>>717794871 (OP)
why would you want to start a family with used goods?

>>717804860
Panam is white tho

>>717794871 (OP)
this game is a broken piece of shit. gigs will literally lock themselves so you cant get finish them

>>717804913
Are american indians white now?

>>717804965
natives don't have an ass like that

>>717805030
It's 2077, anon. Anything is possible.

>>717804860
the fuck are you even talking about? panam is self centered, overly emotional, super quick to anger, has a chip on her shoulder, and feels she has something to prove. Shes just obnoxious.

>>717802017
Touch grass and stop jacking off and objectifying women

>>717804965
she's indian? i take back what I said.
>>717804913
disagree entirely. at least for what everyone around me qualifies as white nowadays.
>>717805301
>self-centered
>overly emotional
>quick to anger
>has a chip on her shoulder
>obnoxious
you're describing a large majority of the female population, no offense. men have their downsides too, probably more so. if you're straight, that's the drawback. she is hot as hell and constantly says and shows she gives a shit about V. that's more than enough for me.

>>717805635
I only pay for games that have hot girls in them

>>717805832
>shes hot as hell
you dont get out enough. shes pretty average and ive dated women with her personality before, its pretty miserable. yea when she cares its nice but most of the time shes bitching about something.

>>717804860
>and out
yes
>inside
god no

>>717802545
>You could name a hundred different fucked up things people would obviously be doing to their bodies and not a single one of them made it in the game

So you just completely forgot about Maelstrom, did you?

>>717805832
>men have their downsides too!
post tits or gtfo. no one said shit about men or all women in general. they just said panam is annoying which is objectively true. istg this is just the more subtle version of "the average woman is X" "BUT IM NOT X!".

>>717806858
>So you just completely forgot about Maelstrom, did you?
Maelstrom are safe-fucked up. They're drug addicts, sure, and into extreme body mods. But all we ever see of them is their penchant for violence.
If someone really wanted to, they could get FREAKY with what cyberpunk implies. It's briefly touched on with Lizzy, the Peralez's, and So-Mi, but CDPR definitely held back.

>>717807054
If Lizzy Wizzy doesn't go full cyberpsycho in the next game I will be very disappointed.

>>717807054
Did you not do the cyberpsycho quests? One of the new ones that got added is a maelstromer that gets possessed by a rogue AI that makes her kill all her friends.

>>717807257
>new
Bloody Ritual was in the game from the start.

>>717807257
>One of the new ones that got added is a maelstromer that gets possessed by a rogue AI that makes her kill all her friends.
I had forgotten it, but yeah that was nice and freaky. You can tell the scenarios which were written with a lot of passion and intensity cause they often have fully voiced Johnny commentary in them
>>717807250
>If Lizzy Wizzy doesn't go full cyberpsycho
I don't think she needs to go traditional psycho though. Just killing people is safe-psycho. She's an artist obsessed with fame. How does THAT person go psycho? Does she turn herself into a speaker or something? Someone more clever than I could come up with a great narrative for Lizzy which is thematically on point. A lazy writer would have her shoot up a concert or something.

>>717807479
>I don't think she needs to go traditional psycho though.
She already passed that point when she strangles her manager then starts acting like drugged Mr Burns.

>>717807759
That's kinda what I mean. She's on a downward spiral, and I hope we get to see a good take on her eventual crash out (or maybe redemption?).

>>717794871 (OP)
She never cared about you.

>>717794871 (OP)
>starting family with sociopathic toaster
?

>>717807257
>>717807250
It's so obvious you guys think 'safe' things are fucked up. It's pretending to push the boundary without actually doing it. It's why the girl is just a boy that turned into a boy in the race car girl's quest and acting like it's a big deal in 2077 where no one would actually give a fuck. It's safe. Everything is safe. Safe violent. Safe horny. Safe this. Safe that.

They aren't willing to actual deal with what people would really do with the body mod tech. And I suppose I can't blame them when talking to people like you makes me realize people still think the same vanilla shit people have been doing for decades are examples of CDPR pushing the envelope with what people would actually do with body mods. Hell the setting has built in examples that CDPR didn't use, let alone the ones even Pondsmith, who thought of quite a few himself, didn't think of. Most of his weirder stuff didn't even make it in though, let alone stuff even he either didn't think of or wasn't willing to do.

>>717808583
>It's so obvious you guys think 'safe' things are fucked up
Based on fucking what? All I said was I wanted Lizzy to fly off the handle.

>>717804420
The silly thing is, if Claire was just upfront I've would've been onboard for assassination or whatever, but instead we spend multiple missions getting strung along with the racing bullshit.

>>717801087
It's easy, but IMO drags on way too long for how simple it is. Plus I actually do agree with the players that think it's stupid the robot is outright invincible, when you fight the big tank robot earlier without issue. The better solution would've been to make the robot stupidly tough AND able to self repair, but not outright impervious to everything.

>>717794871 (OP)
>side with her
>she betrays you
>side with reed
>NOOOO V HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME I TRUSTED YOU
what a fucking bitch. wish I could have killed both her and reed.

>>717808958
>getting strung along with the racing bullshit.
Where he himself murders people, which the target points out. Terrible character and you should be able to kill him.

>>717801569
Vik and Misty are the only ones that actually care about V

>>717808958
or make the tank fight less over the top, or put it later in the story, but i guess they wanted a really big set piece to cap off the prologue. weird that it happens with meyers too

>>717802545
so you hate the tranny because it's one of the few "big" things they use body mods for?????

>>717809303
Mama Welles does too.

>>717808958
drags on? its 3 sections. I timed myself going through it and on my first run it was like 30min for the segment and on followup runs its 10-15min.

also its not stupid if you follow the narrative. The thing is basically hijacked by blackwall AIs which in game are explained to basically be magic. Its really not that much of a stretch to believe it could have some sort of crazy shields that you just cant get past. The only people who got bent out of shape by it were the retards who have to tank everything / only ever play strength builds in games becasue the only thing they can comprehend is hitting something with a stick.

>>717809108
That's another thing. Claire's partner died while participating in the death races, right? WTF did you think was going to happen in the death races? Seeking revenge for a stupid reason by itself doesn't make a character terrible, but it adds up with the stringing along, or the fact that you can tell Claire upfront you're not interested in the revenge plot but get chewed out for not going along with it anyway.

>>717801187
>>717802017
She's not ugly but she's also not hot. Highly recommend the panam replacer mod that gives her a goth-punk look with a less caramel tone (like the other Aldecaldos).

>>717809681
>hijacked by blackwall AIs which in game are explained to basically be magic
But it's not magic. They can do some really impressive and scary things with the level of technology available in the setting, but not outright magic. It's just as dumb when you side with Songbird and start using the Blackwall powers to magic the enemies to death.

>>717809819
>Claire's partner died while participating in the death races, right?
Yes, and it's revealed the way he died wasn't the insidious murder plot Claire made it out to be. He got cocky trying to overtake the guy, guy defended his position, and he crashed and burned. Target did absolutely nothing wrong.
Claire's literally doing rules for thee but not for me.

>>717809947
>It's just as dumb when you side with Songbird and start using the Blackwall powers to magic the enemies to death.
It only looks like magic because you can see the glitching and V does the silly hand gesture. If you take away the glitching effect and hand gesture all you're actually doing is hitting them with a really, really powerful synapse burnout.
(I agree the robot being invulnerable is daft)

>>717808958
>the robot is outright invincible
Agreed. Give it a really high damage threshold, but if you can hurt it enough it retreats (much like the Alien in Isolation).

>>717801668
If you don't think Panam is hot you're really, really gay.

>>717802162
The people worshiping this tranny are the ones telling you Panam isn't hot...

>>717810369
It's a weird thing people do nowadays. They take an objectively attractive woman and just say she's mid.

>>717810248
problem with this is you'll then have the meatheaded morons bitch about "this boss is too hard" and not even consider stealth or following the objectives because they'll just try to facetank the damned thing

>>717810248
This but keep it unhackable.

>>717810369
>>717810436
you guys like men. panam is mid and she has very masculine features as well as a really cunty attitude. shes like a 6 at best.

>>717802618
No, her entire male romance was made, set, voice acted, animated, and ready to go, they just turned it off at the last minute to bow to the faggots.

>>717794871 (OP)
I'm still at the part where i chose to side with reed and watch her spazz out like a retard as a result.

>>717810528
>shes like a 6 at best.
You've literally never seen a 6 IRL, let alone touch one.

>>717810528
lol

>>717810469
Unfortunately that's true, but it's a bit better than forcing everyone to play (really basic) stealth when the base game was generally pretty good at catering to both sneaky sneaky and unga bunga players.

>>717810487
Also this. The Blackwall AI making the robot unhackable is plausible.

>>717810469
Sure, but have V say something like "this thing is unkillable, I gotta hide" or So-Mi say "It's down, for now, move before it self-repairs".
>>717810487
Yeah possibly. Might be worth having hacks just pause it for 1-2 seconds, or deal damage as normal but have the RAM cost be stupid high plus give it ICE (like against Smasher).
On that note the lack of ICE is abysmal in this game. Real let down.

>>717810817
>On that note the lack of ICE is abysmal in this game. Real let down.
Funny thing I noticed is that the closer games approach immersive open world stuff the more dissatisfied people are because there's an infinite number of things devs have to leave out due to resource constraints.

Essentially we're in the uncanny valley of open world type games. Close enough to start to want a lot of the corners of shit filled in because it seems like the real world but of course the real world is too complex too ever be made into a game.

>>717811227
>too complex too ever be made into a game.
I'm not certain it's just a matter of complexity vs resource allocation. I've felt for a while that it's more to do with graphical fidelity vs resource allocation. Devs strive every year to create the latest and greatest in graphical fidelity, often at the expense of immersive systems (heck, even at the expense of basic mechanics sometimes). That and Voice Acting. VA has single-handedly murdered more narrative elements than anything else. You'll never get the Planescape: Torment or Fallout level of story and writing whilst everyone is obsessed with voice acting every single interaction and narrative thread. I guess with AI they can just create voices on the fly soon enough, so maybe we still start to see more branching stories again.

>>717794871 (OP)
that's not in the spirit of Cyberpunk or Night City. everybody goes down in flames. what matters is if you go down in flames in style.

>>717802839
One time it spotted me through a wall, then teleported through that wall to grab me. Another time it appeared right behind me before one of Songbird's flashbacks had finished. I think I can see what they were going for with the mission, but they bungled the mechanics of the robot.

>>717811531
You can blame a lot of Cyberpunk's limitations on rewriting the game around Keanu Reeves late in production.

Are there husbandos that aren't complete mystery meat fags in this game

>>717811631
Maybe if you're into Takemura

/pol/ tourists are so pathetic that they'd side with Shitbird instead of Reed because MUH GLOWIES. Get a personality, you worthless fucking faggots.

>>717811728
Maybe

>>717811631
the male romance options suck so much ass, man. i keep recommending this game to a girl friend of mine, but i worry she's going to bounce off it cause neither of the romance options are appealing. i'm hoping she'll be really into Johnny and Goro though and that plus the spectacle of the game and narrative will keep her engaged.

>>717811604
My understanding is that a lot of the development was halted about 4-5 years in and radically redirected.
Apparently when The Witcher 3 was winding up some grognards at CDPR wanted it to be more of an RPG, but the higher ups wanted an Open World Action Game. The Grogs were promised CP2077 and so they went off to work on that. Once TW3 had wrapped the Grogs presented their scope (a very mechanically dense CRPG) and the higher ups again asked for something more casual and action orientated. Most of the Grogs left and the TW3 team took over, which is when development essentially restarted.

>>717811928
If they're faggy, they're not interested

>>717811928
>i'm hoping she'll be really into Johnny and Goro
There's a 100% chance she will be. Johnny because "I can fix him" and Takemura because... well, everyone loves Takemura.

>>717809329
no moron he hates how they did the tranny
he fucking stated why its because they handled it like a modern issue instead of a 2077 issue
learn to read

>>717794871 (OP)
I want to cum on those cute lips

>>717812008
Anytime I hear about this is makes me sad.
Really wished we coulda played the 2013 vision in a completed state. It might have sucked but I want to play that vision of the game they gave up on.

>>717794871 (OP)
>>717812447

>>717802162
still mad they built up this character to basically do nothing with it

>>717812703
A lot of stuff in the DLC was like that outside its main characters.

>>717812169
that's what i was thinking! it's a little cruel, but i hope she really loves Jackie, too. Jackie's the best. all of them would've make fantastic romance options. i see TikToks sometimes where people ship Val and Johnny even though he's not an official route, and Takemura is so sincere and effortlessly charming i think he's impossible not to love. hahaha

>>717812016
Cyberpunk is a rare game where, to me at least, both the guys that can be romanced do feel like they were meant to appeal more to gay men than straight or even bi women. Johnny, Takemura, and Jackie could've been BioWare tier hits with women if they were full routes.

though that's not to say i think CDPR should preoccupy themselves toooo much with romance options, either. they clearly bit off a lot with Cyberpunk and everything had to be trimmed down in scope from their original Peter Molyneux tier concept. lol

>>717812543
My gripe now is that the sequel (Project Orion) is apparently going to have a whole second city. I really don't care about that at all. NC is incredibly deep, if given the chance. CDPR should be going all-in on NC and making it a ridiculously comprehensive and immersive environment. I'm also afraid V will be a playable protag again, which would make no sense from a cyberpunk perspective.

>>717802017
She's hot, yes, but she's a fucking cunt.
Anyway, for me: it's Angie.

>>717794871 (OP)
Duh, the only legitimately happy V is the one that leaves night city.

>>717801668
I think Myers is really hot
Besides her Blue Moon, the frenchie, Clouds girl, Rita Wheeler, and Panam are all attractive. Songbird is only attractive from the from the front
CDPR generally makes attractive women, Yennefer and Ciri wouldn't be as popular as they are if they didn't

>>717801668
Judy is delicious, you faggot.

>>717812832
I don't think it will be V again given some of the endings.

I absolutely agree I'd prefer them to take what they have with Nightcity and just flesh it out more. It's already incredible but making what's there more comprehensive is a dream. If a second city is the way they're going I guess it will stay a dream.

>>717812703
if Reed being a fed wasn't enough to tip me toward So Mi's ending, it would've been when Reed roped me into helping me kill these two without informing me that he would be killing them. that shit sucked, but it was memorable and did affect my emotions both in that moment and again at the end of the DLC when they made me choose between Reed and So Mi.

Reminder that no matter how hot you make your female V or how much you make your male V look like a Chad all Vs look like this beneath the skin

>>717813121
This. Exactly the moment I chose So-Mi. I didn't trust either one but fuck that moment in particular. "Let's just randomly kill a couple people so we can take their place." I get the logic but fuck him and that entire scenario. Wouldn't even let me say no or turn on him or save them. Completely railroaded.

>>717803819
Most accurate troon

>>717813146
We deserved FBCs in the game. Should have been an option to be a beautiful Alpha or a hulking DaiOni.

>>717800428
No, but if you've played through the section already going through a second time is tedious. It's a stealth section that ignores the game's actual stealth mechanics

The amount of bullshit CDPR pull to get you to simp for Songbird is unreal. Just lemme unplug the bitch and be done with it.

>>717813198
That's meant to be a tipping point, I feel. Either you accept that the potential cure is worth the risk or you decide that Reed will ice you if he feels like it

>>717801668
that's objectively untrue. Panam, Elizabeth Peralez, So Mi, Meredith Stout, Rogue (younger & older), Aurore Cassel, Evelyn Parker, and Rita Wheeler are all objectively attractive. Lizzy Wizzy and Skye (the escort who gives you a therapy session) are also hot, and Myers is pretty hot despite her hair style.

and i'm probably forgetting someone.

>>717813198
>>717813121
>literal corpo french whore that will use and betray you like everyone else
>oh no she gets murdered
>welp time to support the gook that wants you to murder a bunch of random people now
Peak retard

>>717813121
roped me into helping *him

>>717799083
it's just bad and lazy

I love older women so much bros

I wish shitskinedgerunnerspammerfags burn in eternal hellfire

>>717813393
Why does she wear white and gold. Saka colors are red and black she's confusing me

>borg
>start a family

>>717813557
Takemura wears it too

>>717813393
she's 78, anon

>make the ugliest female character ever
>let Johhny take the body
>laugh at him while having cybersex with Alt in cyberspace

>>717813393
Hagfags don’t get enough hate online

>>717813583
There's still a brain in there which means there's DNA I'm sure could be used to synthesize an egg cell using CP technology.

>>717813734
You say like Johnny couldn't just take V's body to a ripper and redo her appearance, and maybe even tack on a Mr Studd if there are some eddies left.

>>717813371
The difference is you get a choice.One is required to progress the plot. You can fuck over So-Mi anytime.

>>717813812
>Johhny Silvertranny

>>717801416
I'm the minority and I accept that but I thought River was ok for that in theory, though I'm not sure if he even shows up for endgame stuff since I only romance Panam and have only done her ending and don't fear the reaper

>>717814056
>Jenny Silverdick

Would it really be such a bad thing to let AI past the Blackwall? Do we even know if we're actively malignant? The Blackwall and Delamain and even Alt are generally pretty kind

>>717814345
I don't remember him at all in my male V playthrough. I did a female V playthrough later and I remember him from that one. I remember he tried to romance me which was interesting because I don't think I initiated it.

I turned him down though so I can't say much. I especially can't say if he'd be Male V's bro or just want to bang V.

>>717814496
nice try, skynet

>>717814496
You do get a taste of an unleashed AI in one of the expansion's ending paths. You also have some hints that the blackwall weapon or deck have some dire implications and potential consequences.

>>717814496
>The Blackwall and Delamain and even Alt are generally pretty kind
The issue is that we have no idea what else is lurking back there. After Bartmoss killed the old web, all kinds of terrible BlackIce and soulkilled "people" ended up stranded behind the wall. They've had 50 years to "evolve". The fact NetWatch are scared of it should tell you everything.

>>717814565
River is a decent bro to male V, but he doesn't leave an impression because he doesn't have an ending route like Panam or Rogue. To be fair, I don't think River would be much help in a fight with regular Arasaka forces, let alone Smasher.

>>717813265
Loading yourself into a full conversion should have been an ending option for the assault on Arasaka tower.

>>717813393
Women over the age of 40 are disgusting

>>717802408
>walk back into the suit shop
>some thug is causing problem
>kill thug
>police lady comes
>very respectful and gives me a thumbs up
>tells me I should join
>due to how respectful she was, I didnt even think of attacking her to see what happens
>also wanted to join later
>learn there is no joining online
>learn online that she was THE SECRET BOSS of the game
>my last save is from after meeting her
I am still seething to this day
anyone got a save from right before meeting her?

>Merc pulls up in a Cortez Valor with a plain grey paintjob and a busted headlight
I'm so fucked my mission isn't getting done

>>717815225
Just force her into a younger body. It's cyberpunk baby.

>>717802545
The trannoids, replying to you, not gritting the point, are most probably brown troodytes so don't worry anon. Everyone with reading comprehension skills is on the same boat with you. All they shoehorn in are modern trannies but other body mods are not mentioned except maybe a computer terminal having one line.

People thinking that you need the kids are to stupid to understand your message or dirty shills.
No beast people. No crazy body mods. Only modern low effort brownie points.

>>717806858
Because everything about them is forgettable. All this buildup for only more cannon fodder but with the junkie esthetic? Wow. Comparable to borderlands psychos.

>>717802485
No. MaxTac was founded in 2013 as a division of NCPD specialized in neutralizing cyberpsycho. If you ever get to play the tabletop game, I suggest playing as a cop.

>>717794871 (OP)
Who the fuck would even side with that treacherous AI possessed cunt? Glownigger is a bro and one of the few people in the game with any loyalty towards you and gives you the only ending where you get cured and a cushy glownigger desk job too.
Yeah in the end he's just a cog in the machine but so is everyone. Johny talks mad shit but can only get you killed in one way or another.

>>717812832
Wow another empty city with nothing to do. Amazing how open world peaked 20 years ago with San Andreas. It'll probably be Chicago. Chicago was destroyed by biological weapons or something i 2010s and the nomads helped rebuild it. I think this is a step in the wrong direction. Vampire the Masquerade belongs in Chicago, not Cyberpunk.
>>717813393
She's a zoomer. You're probably older than her.

>>717815691
i kept V's starter shitbox the whole game, felt good

>>717817997
Wow sounds very boring

>>717802839
its not jank. most cases reported as bug comes from the fact it auto detects whenever V uses cyberware. Like auto cloak on crouch sprint

>>717800428
whiners are always going to bitch and moan as they are faggots that want a dick up their ass to shut them up. Vast majority of the discussion around PL centered around the main storyline and what to do with songbird/shitbird

>>717807257
you mean "lily"? She was in at the start of the game

>>717811604
fuck off with your myths. this has been datamined to death. Johnny was prominently in the thing since the very earliest builds. you just want an excuse to seethe at a famous voice since your cant stand the actor out of jealousy and contrarianism

>>717812832
>>717813115
given who apparently is the lead writer for the thing its better they take on another city to shit up. dont want "the talent" behind ""hits"" like veilguard making epilogues to V or reed/songbird

but yes from asset management and environment development its much better to flesh out NC even more. CP77 alone could use two extra large expansion to flesh out underdeveloped districts. like arasaka waterfront or North Oak Casino. Much like PL fleshed out pacifica with dogtown

>>717815036
>POV of hansen in black sapphire afterparty (after V gets thrown out)

>>717809891
nigga, you best link to hotty gothy panam mod!

>>717799083
I liked it a lot, though I would never play a full length game of it like alien isolation.
>>717794871 (OP)
Fuck this bitch, not a single conversation with her she was telling the full truth. Always hiding and manipulating, making shit choices her entire life, then blaming someone else. I guess the irony is that despite being so much machine she's 100% a woman.

Why didn't alt just copy V's engram into both the body and the chip? Sure V would have been a schizo talking to himself for a while, but the body would become V again. This would of course work because 1. the chip is still functioning as normal and 2. Johnny could be removed from it so adding something else should be possible too.

>>717820221
I recall some mumbo jumbo about the Relic having already overwritten too much of V's neural matrix (or something to that effect). I'm guessing re-overwriting the Johnny-fied parts of V's brain a second time would cause too much damage, even if it's just setting those parts back to V. But I could just be making excuses for the writers.

>>717815689
>learn online that she was THE SECRET BOSS of the game
Is she that much stronger than regular MaxTac?

>>717820779
>already overwritten too much of V's neural matrix
Even if restoring is impossible, there is no reason "redownloading" wouldn't work. So yeah it's forced writing all the way at the end just for shock value.

>>717821323
I think a V engram would count as a third entity. You'd have V being reformed into Johnny then you'd have to incur brain death again to start the process all over again with the copied version of V, but the physical body is 20% original and 80% Johnny so it's overtaking both.

>>717796161
>>717799083
>>717800428
I didn't struggle with it, but it's still incredibly gay and ludonarrative dissonance inducing. Why the fuck shouldn't I be able to disassemble that faggot bot just like I disassembled militech chimera that is 10 times larger and heavier armed than it? Because it has magical AI powers that change the properties of a metal it's made of? Again, the fact of this game being some fantasy shit with sci-fi coat of paint sticks out like a sore thumb.

Betray songbird route is still better overall.

>>717820221
Because it was written by a weak writer who felt a need to force le unhappy ending but had not enough talent and skill to do so properly. End of story.

>>717814496
The entire AI menace would be solved by the world's militaries having a field day with wire cutters severing all optic cables which can't be verified to belong to connect two secure parts of net. It's a colossal retarded plot hole that can be left only by someone who has no idea how internet works, and there's no way to explain it away by any arbitrary setting rule.

>>717822783
The Internet of People and Internet of Things is omnipresent. By the time the military starts cutting cables and turning off cell towers, 99% of the populace is already dead.

>>717822954
>99% of the populace is already dead
But aren't AIs supposed to be contained (for now)? They can't really do anything in physical world. And if they can project power in physical world, then them being present on the internet is a non-issue next to this.

>>717823098
>But aren't AIs supposed to be contained (for now)?
Only some of them. Rogue AIs like Delamain are out there, the Blackwall itself is an AI and nobody really knows just how compromised it is. In one of the sections in Phantom Liberty, you get to see the Blackwall just killing anyone and everyone it "touches," jumping from person to person with no physical connection. The moment one of those AIs decides to wipe out mankind, it's over.
>They can't really do anything in physical world.
They absolutely can, that's why they're so dangerous. Mr. Blue Eyes is potentially even the Night Corp's own AI, and the body is being controlled through the constantly ongoing data transfer, showing up as the always blue eyes.
>And if they can project power in physical world, then them being present on the internet is a non-issue next to this.
The internet is a part of the physical world. Everyone is connected and those connections are omnipresent. If you have cyberware, or a car, any smart devices, the AI can get to you even without hijacking bodies or weapon systems. The world of Cyberpunk is living on borrowed time.

>>717823098
They're literally planting a brainwashed puppet as the major of NC. All they need to do is pay humans for some physical labor.

>>717823459
Then this leaves a question of why exactly new internet was built to be connected to old internet in any way, instead of being parallel but physically separate.
>wireless
Just make everything that connects to the new internet exclusively use completely new encrypted protocols about which no info on old internet is stored. Even if old internet can see some vestigial radio signals, it's free to dedicate few millions of years trying to decrypt them.
The premise allowing this situation relies on all humanity consisting of COMPLETE RETARDS who have no idea what "security" even is. Any half-decent writing doesn't need to rely on that.

>>717813146
I wish I could make V look like a cybernetic demon

>>717823856
>Then this leaves a question of why exactly new internet was built to be connected to old internet in any way, instead of being parallel but physically separate.
They can't disconnect it completely, because nobody knows where exactly all of it's located, what might be connected to the old net and so forth. It would require a full destruction of modern society. Much of the infrastructure is also self-maintaining and even self-replicating, being run by advanced AI autonomously from human considerations. Like how ocean traffic is almost completely destroyed by the presence of self-replicating sea mines controlled by an AI that just destroys any and all vessels it finds, because technically they might have enemies on board.

They'd have to destroy the global information network in totality and build an entirely new one, which isn't possible for them all things considered. The corporations and governments also actively exploit the old net, so there's financial incentives not to burn it all.
Even if you build a completely new internet, the AI can just hook itself into it like any living person would:
>Just make everything that connects to the new internet exclusively use completely new encrypted protocols about which no info on old internet is stored. Even if old internet can see some vestigial radio signals, it's free to dedicate few millions of years trying to decrypt them.
The AI has active bodies, drones and whatever out in the world and is completely capable of hooking up into the new net if they want. If a random civilian can join the new net, then the AI can too. The AI is actively functioning in the physical world. The only thing keeping humanity alive is the Blackwall, which is an omnipresent AI system, a "firewall," that basically controls the entire new net and kills anything and everyone who might potentially be a threat or hostile AI.

>>717813146
I wish I could've made V look like that on the surface too. I wanted to go full cyberpsycho in terms of style.

>>717809303
>"care about V"
>both completely abandon him in the no implant ending

>>717803020
cant romance best girl
I hate cyberpunk

It's strange, but alt barely talked about.