I had fun, it’s not the best battlefield game or anything but most of the issues could be fixed in one patch.

Crying about the maps is also cringe as hell as if you weren’t forced to play metro in the bf3 beta

>>717797276 (OP)
Its the controls and tarkov tier clunkiness. It's so far from bf4 that I just can't get into it.

>>717797276 (OP)
>Crying about the maps is also cringe as hell as if you weren’t forced to play metro in the bf3 beta
Metro was a single map in BF3 and we got to play Caspian Border in the beta as well. There are three maps in this beta, two of them are small with the last being medium at best, and none of them are BF6's Metro equivalent because there are still two infantry-only maps in the base game that aren't in the beta one of which is going to be playable next weekend.
A solid half of the launch maps are small maps, maybe more.

>>717797276 (OP)
>Crying about the maps is also cringe as hell
anon, do you realize that liberation peak will be the 3rd biggest map on release? ALL THE MAPS ARE DOGSHIT!
you are a fucking retard

>people having complaints is cringe
Never complain about anything ever again then

>>717797276 (OP)
Annoying the free beta worked on me. Mostly because clapping people in the heli was fun.

>literally stop enemy flanks
>win
Just stop them from flanking you bro

shooting doorway openings or sitting in tanks: the game

>>717797276 (OP)
I think it's fair to complain about the maps cause we have 3 right now that are shit and the game is only releasing with 9 maps, one of which is a remake and another one is purportedly exclusive to the BR mode so that leaves us with only 4 new maps on release and 2 of them are advertised as close quarters maps.

>>717799818
>tarkov
>clunky
holy fuck youre a retard

>>717797276 (OP)
It looked alright but my PC is getting a little old so I can't switch my PC over to supporting secure boot without the risk of losing data so no thanks

>>717800881
You're trying to suggest that Tarkov isn't clunky?

The last battlefield I played was 4. When did they just completely remove bullet drop? It's basically just CoD ground war.

>PS3 graphics
>Named soldiers
>Less maps than BF4 (2013 PS3 game)
>Less weapons than BF4
>Maps are small as shit
>No recoil
>Weapons don't sound like weapons
>Soldiers move like crazy even tho they have like 100 kg of gear on them
>No server browser
>Aim assist
>Battlepass
>Bots in servers
>Female soldiers
>No artillery
>Worse destruction than BFBC2 (2010 PS3 game)

Just no reason to pick this over BF3, 4, or 1.

>>717797276 (OP)
Its pretty fun

The ak-205 is insane

Liberation peak sucks

Medical mile is so horribly unbalanced heavily favoring the defending team

Cairo is cool

Spain is a good map

>>717797276 (OP)
The maps are 50% of the game, in conjunction with other mechanics you'll find yourself either stuck in your spawn or trapping the other team in theirs for 75% of your matches.

>>717800672
Big maps are dogshit where you are just fodder for vehicle cucks

>>717801468
I'd play this over 1, but I still wouldn't pay for it

>Faggots spamming shotguns
>Start running around with smoke and defibs and they get mad that they're getting one shot in close range
You love to see it

i maxed all the weapons and did every thing and then lost all desire to play the game and it made me realize how much those pointless numbers going up matter, like at the end of that match its just nothing, no accolades or anything, no thing going up to show that match mattered, just nothing and it instantly killed my will to play the game

>>717797276 (OP)
>Crying about the maps is also cringe as hell as if you weren’t forced to play metro in the bf3 beta
Every other Battlefield beta had a large combined arms map you dumb piece of shit and even the BF3 beta switched to Caspian Border near the end

>>717802235
Caspian border is shit

>>717802205
Yeah it’s not a competitive game, you play for fun

>>717802264
Youre missing the point, Caspian Border is a large combined arms map. BF6 is the first beta to launch with only tiny maps. The largest is Liberation Peak and a jet can fly over that in seconds

And they're adding another map next week (Manhattan Bridge) and it's even smaller and infantry only

>>717802007
anon I'll tell you know a little secret.. the engineer class has a rocket that when shot at a vehicle at low health can blow it up!
You and your team should coordinate to blow up vehicles that are killing you instead of being a cry baby faggot

>>717802032
1 is good though

>>717802353
that still doesn’t make maps like golmud, rogue transmission, altai range any good or fun to play.

>>717802264
That's true and there's a pretty good history of these beta maps being among the worst maps in the game.
>bc2: port valdez, worst map in the game and one of the worst maps ever made in any game period
>bf3: metro and caspian, dogshit
>bf4: siege of shanghai, dogshit
>bf1: sinai, dogshit
>bf5: narvik dogshit
At least Cairo in this is 5/10 okay.

>>717802325
i wouldn't mind a having sbmm, the points already account for everything you can do in the game so have an algorithm that takes and those things and weight them to have an elo system you gain or lose based on your performance in the match and have the teams balanced around that elo though that would incentivize everyone to become a tank and stealth squad try hard, i think a battlefield pro match would be cool where all the squads are in comms and the squad leaders are in comms with each other coordinating their attacks and vehicle placement

How available are thermals?
Every gun getting FLIR in 4 ruined smokes.

>>717802391
The only reason it's not the worst game is that 2042 exists.

I don't like how similar the soldier models are. In BF3/4 you could tell from a glance if someone was an assault, support, engineer or recon because they had a distinctive silhouette. In BF6 they arr rook same.

>>717802637
Untrue.

>>717802478
Lmao I totally forgot they made you play Sinai for the BF1 beta, holy shit. I’m suprised the game sold as well as it did after that

>>717800771
>try to le flank
>90% of the map can see the flank
That peak map need some fucking trees.

I know COD comparisons are anathema to the fan base but using the M4A1 on Siege of Cairo makes me feel like I’m playing the Call of Duty 4 campaign when you’re in Saudi Arabia or wherever before the nuke goes off. I’m saying this as a compliment, it’s a solid vibe.

>>717802478
Port Valdez was fine get a grip. What as your problem with it?

>>717802576
I’m not even sure they’re available in the beta.

>>717802478
All of those maps are better than Cairo.

>>717802863
People arguing about this are gleaming over two simple facts.
TDD is instant. you die in a single frame because the servers are shit.
Respawn time is basically instant.
Cleared the enemy team off a point? They all just respawned back on the point get fucked AHAHAHAH

>>717802659
It being hard to tell teams apart without doritos is a bigger issue. At least in BF5 you could tell the difference between allied and axis uniforms. In this both teams are literally identical.

>>717802659
The European military larp fuckers all look the same. The Recon class is almost exactly the same as the Assualt but with some bushes on their arms.

>>717802863
I've said it in other threads but this game feels like a very good CoD game, but nothing at all like BF.

>>717802659
>>717803031
they're blank slate golems on purpose
you want your soldier to look like it's actual class? buy the battlepass and unlock the cosmetics

I played it non-stop for four days. I'll miss it. It's not perfect but it gets enough right. See you all Thursday.

It's kind of lost in history now but I remember when EA was claiming that 2042 was a "return to form" and it's just so funny now after BF6.

well now that bf6 isn't a complete failure every battlefield from now on will just be call of duty field

>You are currently 20 billionth in queue
Yeah. Guess I'll never play it.

How does he do it? He can’t stop winning

>>717803091
They brought in the old head of Infinity Ward to make the game, it's not a coincidence it feels like COD, it was made by the guy that invented COD

Battlefield has been aping cod since bad company, you guys really need to get over it. It’s based that Battlefield lets you kill grandpas and clueless 5 year olds with impunity

>>717803410
>call of duty fans tired of the silly shit on call of duty
>battlefield fans completely buck broken in all aspects
it's the perfect storm, i still don't think the game will be super successful but will definitely surpass 2042

>>717797276 (OP)
really wasn't a fan of the leaning thing. it definitely needs a tweak. if they don't fix that by launch, i'll be shocked. correct me if i'm wrong, but there was a third tank seat that was more of a spotter/recon type role in the tank and i do miss that. as far as i can tell there's 5 or 6 seats and every one but two of them don't do anything. i wish the range finder on the sniper automatically adjusted your zeroing to see what you were looking at. there's nothing even above 200m in the open beta so i'm not sure if they just pushed out maps that are well optimized or what, because the range in this game is nowhere near where battlefield should be at. optimization is a huge problem. i should not have to have frame gen and ultra-performance on a 4070ti to get a playable 120 frames. all in all, had a lot of fun. had a busy weekend so only logged 6 hours but i will almost certainly be buying it.

>>717803351
Finally the BC2/BF3 generation get to experience their BC2 moment.

>>717803536
>just shut up and spend the $70 chud, your complaints are invalid
yeah nah get fucked

>>717803640
This game will sell well regardless of you buying it, and it doesn’t even matter because the playerbase will drop off immensely anyways

>absolutely no bullet drop or travel on the sniper rifles
>one shot kill
Who actually approved this?

>>717803578
That was BF1

>>717797276 (OP)
It's shit. The CoD style design is ruining anything this franchise had. There is not a single spot on a map where you aren't in constant danger of someone running around a corner and gunning you down. I liked battlefield games for the open maps and slower pacing. I'm not really surprised since battlefield only gets worse with every iteration. I actually haven't bought a battlefield game since bf2, but I still always play the open betas with a little bit of hope that they'll make a good game again.

>>717802478
>metro and caspian, dogshit
you are retarded, Caspian Border is literally the best BF map ever.

>>717797276 (OP)
>Crying about the maps is also cringe as hell
Whining about whining is even more cringeworthy, faggot.

>>717804949
I liked Kharg better just out of base BF3 maps.

give PC controllers console controller aim assist

>>717804867
>move
>get shot in the back
>don't move
>get shot in the back
Yeah I don't get it either.

>>717802205
Letting online shooter fans decide how your game looks and plays is like asking a slot machine addict to design their own slot machine. They're going to describe how they like loud bells and flashing lights but fail to describe a concept since they don't think at that level

>>717805312
everyone likes number goes up and it's pretty much the basis of most video games since they were first invented

>>717805312
***CASHNADO ALERT!!!***

>>717805513
>everyone likes number goes up and it's pretty much the basis of most video games since they were first invented

>>717805312
>online shooter fans
Incorrect they asked e-celebs what would make the best streamer game.

>>717805580
Why are boomers like this

>>717804867
>since bf2
I genuinely don't mean this as condescending or rude but you're not really a BF fan anymore then since for the last 16 years DICE has been moving away from BF2's design and going out of their way to chase a totally different audience.

>>717805312
how exactly are you going to ascribe a "bigger picture" to a match based team shooter?

>>717805214
CB is better overall because of the circular design, the overall map is like a circle with a core and many layers that allow ground and air units to have their respective "strong zone". It's great for inf, tanks/AA, heli and jets, all of them can have fun without having to feel "inferior" to others and the close capture points proximity mean that the infantry can rotate in circle for capturing points without being taken apart by tanks etc...

It's almost the perfect map really.

>>717802478
>cairo
Cairo was middling to unimpressive even before the pablos and ivans learned they could cheat their way to inaccessible rooftops.

>>717802007
NTA but are you retarded? 2/3 of the team in the Beta are playing call of duty at the chokepoints. All you have to do is catch them off guard and spray them with the IFV for countless kills.

If you’re not reaching 1st on the leaderboard with IFV then you’re doing something wrong.

menu ui navigation is actually fucking awful
going like 3-4 clicks into submenus, then hitting back and getting sent all the way to the first menu is terrible

>>717802353
>You and your team should coordinate
yea its op

>>717804949
Please do not reply to me with your retardation ever again.

>AA can actually damage and destroy jets and helos instead of taking so long to lock on their flares restock before you can shoot
>airfags whine and cry
I'd celebrate if I didn't anticipate airbabies moaning enough to get AA nerfed like they always do.

>>717805958
hard to tell if the ui designers are retarded or making the experience awful to keep a job
going to the squads menu in game requires you to click and hold for 5 seconds for some asinine reason

>>717806082
ok retard

>>717806142
air game is practically nonexistent right now and that's a good thing, the real only value air game had was making it seem more chaotic and like a "real" war and it took to much out to make that be worth it

>>717806149
The terrible class icons make me think it's simple retardation.
>>717806383
Helicopters are fine. Jets have never added that much though.

>>717806383
Helicopters should be more of an air transport than lobby blender.

>>717800586
Caspian Border was like 2 and a half call of duty maps and 2 wide open fields

>>717805958
The shit menus are copied straight from CoD but only the bad parts. Good things like attachment pros and cons being listed in plain green (good) and red (bad) text isn't here.
Which scopes give you glint? Who knows!
What part of spread or recoil does this extended barrel affect? No idea!

>>717800672
SMALL INTENSE MAPS ARE BASED ARMACEL

>>717806558
Attack helis are fine when it's reasonable for them to be hit by MANPADS. And by that mean they shouldn't be able to sit out of bounds and TV missile people while completely immune to counterattack and if someone hits them with a rocket they should fucking die rather than get a "mobility kill" where they gently glide to the ground and get to repair themselves.

>>717801578
huh theres more than two maps? im too busy doing breakthrough to farm points

>>717804867
>didn’t play bf1 no hud
Opinion discarded

>>717806664
For me it's the trigger upgrade that improves semi auto. How does it improve it? No idea. It's improved, that's all you get.

>>717804949
Best BF map is Wake Island, objectively.

I don't want to compete with drugged up ipad baby zoomers with a 10 millisecond reaction time who can turn 180 degrees in 3 frames and click on your head. I just want to drop JDAMs on them

>>717807073
totally unbalanced on BF3 though, and the overall shape of the map make it difficult to balance it properly by teams.
but yeah, I do like the creativity that the map provide though.

>>717802205
This kind of attitude is exactly what's killing gaming. There really are people who won't play your game just for fun. They NEED the endless PROGRESSION for stupid skins or whatever the hell else. Because of this, a closed off system is required since otherwise people could cheat to get everything, requiring matchmaking and rankings.

>>717802350
>>717802863
>>717803091
>>717803351
>>717803420
>>717803536
>>717804867
>3 cramped city maps already
The COD audience pandering continues...
BF1, BF5, BF2042 all tried bigger maps and people hate those games, so here we are.

>>717806149
compare their UI and Main Menu to this Old Glory.

>>717807786
>open map
>its just being one shotted by snipers/jets/tanks from a mile away with no counter

>>717807786
There's a middle ground between giant empty maps with nothing in them and maps so small you can literally throw a grenade from one end to the other. Infantry only maps can even be really good. But like Iberian whatever it's called in this beta is literally a CoD map. It's not an urban BF map.

>>717807885
BF3 didn't have a main menu on PC

This beta has just been a bad experience for me. Always getting direct x crashes. I've given up on it. I don't think I've ever seen a Dice beta that throws this many errors at me before. But i didn't play 2042. But i did play BF V's beta before launch and that wasn't really all that bad, as in it just worked.

Early in to the beta and i got into one match and played for a while just fine, but it's gotten progressively worse to the point of where it's not even functional anymore. Maybe this will be ironed out on release, but this is supposed to be the free test to decide whether i buy it or not. So it's kind of an opportunity wasted. I could just go play it on my ps5, but i don't like gaming on controllers.

>>717807925
actually, it kinda does have it
>>717807885
it's even better how the UI is in multiplayer, quite fast and efficient, even taking into account that it need to accommodate the console gamepad

>>717807925
That’s fucking gay. I’d stare in awe at the main menu when I booted it up on PS3. They just kept getting minimal and “modern” from there.

>>717808130
you launched it from a browser page, which was rather shitty, but I'll give them credit for going outside the box

>>717801468
>Just no reason
There's a reason though, those games are dead

>>717807786
There is no respawn cooldown on Domination anymore as well. The COD fanbase dicksucking doesnt stop there, they added another turbo ADHD bing bing wahoo gamemode "King of the Hill". EA just wants to steal as many COD players as they can and in doing so they've pulled the plug on the very core experiences that makes Battlefield unique. This game is total soulless slop, it might be a financial success for EA but anyone retarded enough to buy this game is going to be holding a major L

The "Open Beta" isn't an Open Beta. It's literally a demo for the main game. They aren't going to change jack shit in 8 weeks. I'm fucking tired of hearing braindead trogolodytes saying
"DOOOD JUST WAIT FO DA FULL RELEAZZZ DOOOOOOOOOD DER WILL BE BIG MAP FDOOOOD"

Strike at Karkand is only 16% bigger than Liberation Peak. They have completely cucked the scale of maps. It's genuinely over for this franchise.

>>717807894
>spawn on your squad/closer capture points
>use cover since an "open map" isn't literally all open flat fields
>use smoke grenades
>use vehicles
But yeah, people just wanna COD run and gun, so here we are.

>>717805861
They've brought back and remastered Caspian Border twice now (2014 in BF4 and 2021 in BF2042 Portal) for a reason. It is basically the perfect Battlefield map.

>>717808646
>I'm fucking tired of hearing braindead trogolodytes saying
>"DOOOD JUST WAIT FO DA FULL RELEAZZZ DOOOOOOOOOD DER WILL BE BIG MAP FDOOOOD"
It's just dumb underage kids, the r/battlefield plebbit sub is overrun with them. They haven't been through an open beta before, they don't understand nothing substantial changes after a beta and this is the release build we're all playing. They actually believe the 'we're interested in your feedback' rhetoric from the devs.

>>717808482
BF players are the new nerd cave.

>>717808897
Taking your core audience for granted works until it doesn't. Dragon Age: Veilguard is the poster child for that phenomenon. Then the game was on sale 50% off in the second month after release and free on PS Plus 6 months after release.

>>717808862
Someone mentioned the fact that the first thing you see on the first page of the main menu, is “PRE ORDER PHANTOM EDITION NOW!”

and not “thank you for playing, we would like your feedback”

>>717808646
Fuck off tard, you tourists don’t even like big maps yourself

>>717808313
they aren't tho

Try this attachment on domination. Fun unga bunga playstyle

>>717808646
Yeah, it's ridiculous. People acting like release will have giant maps and they deliberately picked only small ones for the beta, because the devs want to misrepresent the game. Why exactly would they want to do that? The beta represents the game. They're not trying to trick people, this is what BF6 is.

>>717808646

>>717808969
EA keeps chasing the fanbase reset because it actually has worked for them a couple times. After playing the beta I think there's a decent chance it'll work for them again this time at least at launch. I have no idea if it'll have legs though. There's genuinely so little difference between BF6 and CoD though that I don't know if any of those people will stick around to buy microtransactions when they can just go back to CoD.

>>717809187
Battlefield 6 gave me migraines, ADHD twitchy fucking shooter.

>>717808969
>>717809230
I imagine there's a pretty big market for people who want CoD but with less of the retarded shit CoD currently has. I don't have that webm of the T-800/Raphael/Beavis but you know what I'm talking about. It'll probably sell well. Probably.

>>717809230
I think it'll probably work for them too, the beta has strong MW2019 vibes and that was the last time COD was good. Black Ops 6+7 are absolute Fortnite cancer that has gone off the deep end pandering to 12 year olds and overmonetizing to the point that even the biggest idiot would feel their intelligence is being insulted. BF6 offers the old COD feeling, so it'll probably be wildly successful as long as they keep the cosmetics sensible.

>>717809330
Yeah they crossed a line with Beavis and Butthead and made it too brazenly stupid. They got overconfident with the failure of 2042 and thought their actual competition was Fortnite, not Battlefield. Now Battlefield is swooping in to eat their lunch in their original genre and they're panicking. They made MW2 and MW3 free on PSN over the weekend to try to spoil the open beta. They never make anything free, so they're scared.

>>717809230
You hit the nail on the head of the problem with this game. From what I’ve seen COD players are treating BF6 like a refugee camp.

Once the next Call of Duty corrects the Fortnite cancer they’ll all migrate back. Because there’s no way Vince Zampella will make another Battlefield after this one and given their track record it won’t be nearly half as good as this mediocre COD ground war clone.

This game is somehow more disappointing than 2042.

>>717809330
Not just the fortnite stuff, but I think there's probably a decent sized market for "CoD but without killstreaks" which is what this basically is.

>>717809187
The map they're adding for next weekend is one of two infantry only maps. We haven't even seen the maps BF6 considers small yet but we're about to.

the slide is so lame

>>717809524
After they patched all the maps, 2042 became a pretty serviceable Battlefield game. People just never came back after they shit the bed on release and only remember the release version of the game.

>RPG with no splash damage
>Shotgun is 1 shot 1 kill bullshit
>Maps too small ( i hope firestorm is one of the bigger maps with shit ton of vehicles)
>Vector with SMG skin

but i had fun tho..

>>717810671
Firestorm is only one of three combined arms maps. The other 6 are small infantry-focused maps like the beta. Some have no vehicles present at all. This is why people are calling it a COD clone, because it basically is.

>>717810797

Hope New Sobek City is at least another one thats the same scale as Operation Firestorm.

looks like Mirak Valley is gonna be the biggest?

I hope those infantry only maps are meant for other modes.. Who the fuck wants to play conquest or domination in such a small map?

>>717809157
3 is and 4 is full of chink hackers.
1 is acceptable

>>717802637
No one agrees with you

>>717804867
Cringe, BF2 isn’t even remotely the best Battlefield game

>>717802478
you forgot Rotterdam

Armor is literally unplayable without 2-3 repair guys and an army of disposable guys to push into the point, serve as a distraction and take out RPGs.

I mainly play on breakthrough but holy shit it’s rough.

>>717809524
>Once the next Call of Duty corrects the Fortnite cancer they’ll all migrate back
Once the genie is out of the bottle it never goes back in. They’re never gonna back off the Fortnitification of CoD.

>>717811632
It doesn't help that two of the three maps are nothing but tight corridors where you can easily get raped from 360 degrees.

battlekeks, why do all your guns sound like a wet pillow fight? It sounds like playing NERF Arena or some Airsoft simulator, it's pathetic.

>>717810956
>I hope those infantry only maps are meant for other modes..
lol
lmao even

Question, as someone who never really played battlefield, apparently there are "vehicle mains"?

Is there a trick, or is this basically just faggots waiting in spawn waiting for a vehicle? IMO vehicles are already pretty fucking gay in this game, but doing nothing except waiting for them is even dumber.

>>717807885
>BF3 menu is so based
>opens up a fucking web browser
lmao

>>717811801
old DICE's audio designers are at Embark

>>717811813
Play any BF game and you will regularly encounter the guy who makes it abundantly clear he sits at the loadout screen waiting for the plane to respawn and he will never ever bail out of it because he categorically refuses to set foot on the ground, and he will go 45 and 0 because DICE knees to planefags and will inevitably nerf anti-air into the ground.

BF6 Battle Royale mode could be sick if they can resist adding a bunch of stupid nonsense into the mix like COD did.
Just a meat&potatoes battleground experience but with heavy vehicles in the mix. Thats going to be the highlight of the game for me.

The rest is boring. I really could care less on the current modes since winning and losing is all tied down to 60+ other people. Thats why i couldnt get into the earlier Battlefields as your contribution wont matter like it does in a 5v5 or a Battle Royale.

>>717812059
Just not having loadouts would already massively put it over cod for me. BR is more fun when you have to loot ur guns instead of making a meta build before the match starts

>>717811813
Camping in the spawn menu is mainly an airfaggot thing. Usually there are a couple maps that have three or four tanks at spawn plus an LAV and maybe an AA tank and also armored vehicles will spawn on some of the flags so even if you die in a tank there's probably already another one waiting to go somewhere on the map. There are people who exclusively play on those maps to stay in a vehicle pretty much constantly.
Since BF6 doesn't have a server browser or persistent lobbies and there are no signs of any such huge map I don't think this playstyle will be viable here.

>>717812127
loadouts remove some randomness which is the worst part about anything competitive
>oops you dropped and all the guns are dogshit? guess you just lose unless the enemy either also got just as unlucky or is a mouthbreather

>>717810956
6 out of 9 maps are infantry focused meatgrinders, only 3 are traditional combined arms maps, the game is a COD game masquerading as a Battlefield game if that isnt already painfully obvious at this point

>>717812246
I would rather have better emergent gameplay than cater to compfags. Anyway there was always a solution to that; dont drop in some dogshit secluded area of the map, grow some chest hair and drop in a highly contested zone and go get some kills & good gear at the start of the game

>>717812327
the same shit happens at highly contested zones you just die quicker
>oops the building you ran in had a pistol and the guy that rushed into the room next to you got an smg better luck next time

>>717812246
BR should never be a fucking competitive mode. Nothing about battlefield should be a compfaggot mode

>>717812409
Okay. I simply btfo him with my pistol. End of conversation

>>717812409
Nigga that shit happens in cod too you don't just drop in with a loadout immediately. You just don't like the concept of BRs in general and that's fine.

>>717812409
It sounds like you don’t want to play a battle royale. You want to play an extraction shooter you stupid faggot.

>>717812603
fuck no extraction shooters are fucking worse

Lets just hope it gets a lobby system so you don't have to suffer matchmaking.

>>717812668
Best I can do is portal

>>717797276 (OP)
I only had fun in 8v8. The 64 player battles felt miserable to play.

>>717812668
Go play 2042 right now and you can see what they plan to do with Portal mode. It's a really crappy server browser, a significant downgrade on even BF4, a game from 2013

>>717811632
>Armor is literally unplayable without 2-3 repair guys and an army of disposable guys to push into the point, serve as a distraction and take out RPGs.
So it's a team game where everyone needs to work together

>>717797276 (OP)
it was alright but I'm never paying over $60 for a game. I'll maybe get it on a sale later on if the player count is still decent

>>717812004
This is one reason why BF5 is the best, no helicopters, no jets. The WW2 planes aren't even close to as annoying as those.

>>717812059
>your contribution wont matter
Yeah, if you play with the COD mindset. The tactic of sneaking to a rear point to capture still worked in this beta. It literally suddenly makes the other team lose focus and you can do it all by yourself.

>>717797276 (OP)
>forced to play
In other Battlefield games I went back to the server browser and joined a server with a map that wasn't cancer
So no I will continue to complain about the beta maps being bad

the game is already boring after 2-3 days, beta is the perfect amount of time to get tired of a modern BF game

just play that and then don't give DICE any money

>>717801251
CoD likeness started with bf4 btw

>>717799818
>bf4
>not clunky
It took only one match after BF1 to see how fucking dated and stiff BF4 feels.

im still playing

>>717801141
Nta, but after getting used to the controls, no.

>>717812303
>>717810797
>>717810956
And remember, since there's no server browser, you will play whatever map the game gives you. In this beta, I quickly realized that one mountain map was the best but only got to play it 3 times because that's matchmaking for you...

>>717813382
Every BF game is like $5 or less right now and this one will be too in a few years.

>>717808646
>uhm actually I saw a placeholder graphic in killfeed the game is clearly still in development

>>717812246
>competitive
who gives a fuck?

The game is fucking terrible but there is literally nothing else to play right now. The STATE of gaming

>>717816016
‘83 is releasing by the end of this year.

I can’t believe I haven’t been hyped for a release of a single game in over a decade.

>>717808292
>I'll give them credit for going outside the box
I don't give people credit for implementing ideas that any normal person would call fucking stupid.

>>717812907
Ideally you would have your entire 4 man squad operating an IFW.
>driver
>one to man the gun, covering blind spots and smoking when things get dicey
>two goons, one preferrably an engineer, to cover the flanks for infanty C-4 shenanigans and to help with the repairs

So yeah, it's a team game, and it felt amazing to act as a mechanized unit.

>>717810671
>RPG with no splash damage
It's an anti-tank warhead, it's not supposed to do damage over a wide area.
>Shotgun is 1 shot 1 kill bullshit
That's shotguns for ya. I guess they could stand to bump down the lethal range though.
>Maps too small
They're mostly tight urban warfare maps for now, probably in response to 2042's wide-open sniper fests. I'm just happy to see actual city maps without fucking skyscrapers.

>>717811536
Hey fuck you Rotterdam's great.

Cringe boomers still crying about the movement in this game as if it’s not limited.
Like I really don’t understand why sliding bothers so many of them. None of them can give a coherent reason as to why it’s bad other than durr call of duty slide

>>717816715
the movement is fine. The recoil and hitboxes are very cod-esque, I'd rather have something a bit more realistic but whatever

>>717816785
>hitboxes
What exactly makes the hitboxes "cod-escue"?

>>717816785
>Ultimax LMG has literally no recoil at all whole sustaining fire
>M39 has painful recoil even by series DMR standards
How does this work

>>717816864
Some combination of big boxes or hurt boxes makes the guns extremely forgiving. It's so easy to land shots it's weird. I'm just looking in their general direction and full autoing and i'm farming.
Let's say for example we had PUBG guns, people would be missing more shots. If you full auto it's harder to control.

2042 is a lot of fun because 80% of the player base is terrible and you can go on huge kill streaks. For $3 it's an easy recommendation.

>>717817384
2042 unironically has a bigger skill gap than BF6 too, its a lot easier for console Flo Jo to kill me in BF6 due to its ttk than 2042

>>717816715
It's bad because can we please just have a basic team shooter where you run, you crouch/prone, you shoot and that's it. There's no need for these stupid maneuvers that only expand the controls needed and make those already good at the game even more unbeatable because now they can also have a chance to dodge or surprize you.

>>717817439
Eh? I'm a controller user (keyboards don't agree with my movement preferences) and I was having a lot of issues with getting smashed down without even realising I was under fire.

>>717817531
And for context, I've got extensive hours in 2042, so I know damned well how it feels to play and excel in that.

>>717815937
>i love everything being random and luck based so anytime I lose it doesn't bruise my fragile ego

>>717816969
or if it's not the hitboxes of the players / bullets, maybe it's the weapon bloom that is helping poor aimers hit their shots. My point is that it feels like everyone is hitting everyone almost all the time, consistently. Like oddly consistently. That's all. I don't know the exact reason.

>>717817384
i just can't with the flying squirrels and people pulling different scopes out of their ass

>>717816715
movement too fast
slow it the fuck down
make guns inaccurate as fuck if you aren't standings still
remove any form of advanced movement that isn't sprinting
make jumps fuck over your movement speed completely
there I fixed it, now all the cod niggers will fuck off back the hellhole they crawled out of

>>717817681
fuck off to arma nigger

>>717817723
Based

I played strictly engineer on conquest, I’m a team player and focus on maintaining my teams tanks and blowing up the enemy tanks. I do this while traveling between objectives I’m capturing, I can go anywhere from 14-7 to 29-17 and I average about 7-11 objective captures and at least 1 tank destroyed per match.

This battlefield 6 is absolutely amazing for us longtime engineer players, I’m having a blast!!!

>>717815145
Planes in BF1 and BF5 are both extremely OP. BF3/BF4 jets are nothing.

Shame about the malware they bundled with it. Shan't be buying.

when im on the ground I feel like I rather just go play cod
when Im on the tank I feel like I rather go play warthunder
tank control is actually feel worse than it was in older bf
how did this happened?

>>717815423
I didn't even play that long. I only needed to play a bit on Saturday night to understand it's not BF and they fundamentally have no intention of making it BF. Didn't have any desire to play more even for free.

>>717818294
This game is shit painted gold

I want the time I spent in the beta back

>>717817846
Based blast haver

>>717815498
BC2**

Incredible how every piece of marketing for Battlefield 6 basically amounts to: “we’re not blacks ops 7”

>>717818085
Planefags in 1 and V never pissed me off to the same degree as the ones in 4. Having access to effective flak guns does wonders.

>>717817681
Retards need to stop parroting this "it's movement making this game too fast!!!!!!" retardation. It's not. This game is faster because 1) Health regen is instant so there is zero need to ever stop and heal or look for a medic 2) Respawn is instant so once again no waiting for anything and 3) the maps are shoebox sized. This all means there is literally zero downtime ever during the game.

First beta period ended and i did not get to spend longer than 30 minutes playing it.>>717808007

The replies i got on the forums: reinstall windows. Yeah right, I'm not reinstalling anything when most of the most basic checks tell me i have no component store or registry corruption, nor do ANY other games have this issue. This Beta was just a broken piece of shit. A broken piece of shit that some people could play, but plenty of others had problems i hear too.

>it's cod
>it's cod
>it's cod
shut up console kids
everyone types "gg" at the end of the match so it's not cod

>>717817597
>I love always having access to the best strategy possible so I can dunk on people more interested in having fun because any sort of loss is a bruise on my ego
If you ACTUALLY wanted to compete you wouldn't be playing CoD or a battle royale. People that want to compete don't have a problem finding others like themselves to compete with, you are choosing to play with people that don't want to play the way you want, then crying when your crutch gets threatened

Only thing I don't like is being marked across the map by someone looking down their sights. Makes the idea of getting into a good position completely redundant as you suddenly have a fucking orange square your head begging fifty enemies to hose you. I know it's been a thing for years in BF but it needs to be reworked or just binned completely. Weird comparison but War Thunder does the whole marking enemies much better

>>717808007
You know the game has mnk on console, right? Only issue is the performance mode is currently 60 fps

>>717797276 (OP)
I actually really enjoyed it. It's different from other battlefield games, it's definitely smaller scale (reminds me of BC2) and higher paced. Once I got used to that though I couldn't help but have fun with the game. I keep having battlefield moments where I'm thinking, fuck yeah this is what I've been missing. And the gameplay is satisfying. I feel that the higher pace helps with some of the things I disliked about previous entries. Back them good gunplay would not garantee you surving an encounter since the slower pace ment other enemies could intervene in a fight and screw you over. In this game I feel more like I can actually make a difference in a push by wiping out a larger part of the enemies defences before I get overwhelmed myself.

I get why other people might not like it though. But I'm willing to bet that this entry is going to do very well. It's the right moment for this game to come out. Especially with CoD shooting itself in the foot right now.

>>717818926
>actually defending slot machine bullshit instead of skill being the deciding factor
I know /v/ is terrible at video games but god damn

>>717800672
I agree that I'd like some more bigger maps, but I feel like this size does work well for this game's game-/gunplay. I guess we'll see how it turns out when the game comes out.

>>717818628
Wrong on all accounts.

I decided to plug a controller in to see how the aim assist was and to my surprise it’s an aimbot every time you zoom in. Even call of duty doesnt do that. It’s like playing fucking gta. Shant be buying the garbage. No server browsers, forced crossplay, piss off.

>>717819078
There's a lot of fair critique and concern, like with the maps and ttk, but most complaints here are disingenuous at best.

>>717797276 (OP)
>Is it fun
Hell yes
>Is it fun enough to warrant spending 70 euros on an EA live service battlepass game with no server browser and intrusive anti cheat which already failed at keeping out cheaters
Hell no

>>717819078
Positioning and cover matter a lot more due to the lower ttk. Also, teamwork with vehicles really shines.

>>717819135
But you're supposed to hate it NOW.

>>717819015
>War Thunder does the whole marking enemies much better
which is how?

>>717797276 (OP)
It’s good and I liked it and I’m gonna play on release

>>717818415
same, played 4 hours only

>>717807786
Cairo was disappointing with how few options you have with destroying buildings/walls to create new entry- and chokepoints
Iberan Offensive was a touch better in that regard but the fact you cant actually race 80% of the map or bulldoze the foundations of any of the buildings just makes the matches too static

>>717820262
>race
RAZE
fuck phoneposting

Tell you what…this game is extremely good and challenging, haven’t had this much fun with a shooter since bf3 days.

>>717797276 (OP)
The only issue I had was that the hitboxes, bullet spread or both were weird as fuck. The only way to hit someone reliably is one bullet at a time, but if you go full auto or even controlled bursts you hit nothing. Very frustrating.

>>717819731
Having one class dedicated to scouting that can only mark targets that they aim at in a narrow visual cone (with a lengthy cooldown between marks). In BF teams are constantly being pinged by each other as every Tom, Dick and Harry has that ability. I get that sniper glint is a way to tone down the oppressiveness but in Battlefield you'll often get insta-marked just by sticking your head up to see what's going on, even if you're miles away from the front

>>717821043
I guess then BF5 is closest to that since only Sniper class can spot there.

>>717821043
I've never been a fan of 3D spotting but it's extremely lenient in this game in terms of being limited in effectiveness and is basically a necessary evil considering it's impossible to tell teams apart + the sheer amount of visual clutter. It's not like BC2 or BF3 where you could just press Q and instantly light up the entire map with ESP (and even see people through walls in BC2). Also btw what you're describing is basically how it works in BF5 aka the game culture warriors complain about even though it's the least casual BF since refractor.

>>717815423
>uses cheats to detect enemies and where they are looking
>I am le bored
Rope

>>717808007
turning off HUD AO or whatever it was called, verifying files after that fixed it for me.
i think it was the first result on google that worked for me

>>717797276 (OP)
the map issue is real though, i might be ok with the small map size, but the urban maps are filled with choke points while Liberation peak has too many vantage points that encouraging spawn picking and sniping
slightly expand the map in the southwest. add more trees, rocks/ lower the elevation on the high position. Stop allowing people from fucking climbing the mountain in the middle. Just do that and you got a decent, balanced BF6 map

>>717821756
I like to play with LMG's but I've found it difficult to set up decent positions with a 'SHOOT HERE' sign over me. Only success I've had is flanking and hoping for decent cover that allows enfilade fire.

Also, do all scopes have a glint? The game doesn't make this clear.

I get the argument for visual clutter, fair enough. Perhaps BF could implement a squad based ping system to help call targets, and encourage teams to work together to dig out enemies. There were moments over the weekend where huge firefights broke out and it felt fantastic - both sides trying to push forward. But this only seemed to happen on the Cairo map.

>>717823478
>I like to play with LMG's but I've found it difficult to set up decent positions with a 'SHOOT HERE' sign over me.
By design you're basically never going to be able to just camp with a machine gun outside some crap like Metro/Locker. Flanking is the name of the game.
>Also, do all scopes have a glint?
I don't know about BF6 honestly, but in previous games only 6x and up scopes had glint, but BF5 had glint on 3x and up from memory (just for snipers). I didn't do any sniping myself or see enough snipers in the beta to really find out for myself.
>Perhaps BF could implement a squad based ping system to help call targets
It had that before Bad Company and BF5 added it back. BF6 has it too and you can see it if you spot an area without actually targeting an enemy.

REMINDER: None of the OG DICE members who designed peak Battlefield games are working on this. It's all nufag devs who are told to copy COD MW2019.

>>717823478
>'SHOOT HERE' sign
Genuinely the worst part of the entire game for me. It's so stupid. Shoot the red UI elements and get free kills. Fucking remove that shit.

>>717797276 (OP)
You can't patch terrible map design.
>noo you can't complain about the game having dogshit maps! You were also forced to play a dogshit map in BF3!
underage and retarded

>>717816969
Full auto has been a laserbeam for the last few BF games.
If you claw grip, all you do is slightly pull your fingers down while shooting and all your bullets hit right on target. No memorizing recoil patterns necessary when recoil is only vertical.

>>717824391
thanks for the info
>>717824421
Ironically the only game mode I didn't like in BF6 was KOTH because it felt too similar to COD - just 360 degrees of spawn threat and ADHD gunplay

BF1 is the only good modern BF because no thermals means smoke actually fucking whips

>>717797276 (OP)
Beta didn't even work for me, so back to BF4 it is. Warsaw Revamped will be here eventually too.

But the bigger hype is for games like 83'. There's good things happening in FPS, just elsewhere from what Dice are currently doing. I was already pissed off about them killing the server browser, but getting such an unstable BETA was unacceptable from my perspective.

>classes don't matter
>no server browser
>AMD GPUs older than navi are entirely unsupported, but work fine with a registry hack and can play the game without issue

Fuck EA, honestly. The only thing that this game has going for it is a return to more grounded aesthetics and locked vehicle spawns. That's it. Been playing this series since vietnam and as shit as V was, at least the classes mattered. There really isn't a modern successor to BF2, let alone 2142, the genre has changed too much.

Modern Warfare 2019 (2) and its kino becasue of it

>>717828946
gigabyte (lol) mobos also have issues with booting with Secureboot on.
you know, the budget mobo that poors held onto.

>>717829937
the biggest scam that has persisted through this industry is that motherboard manufacturers are somehow different from one another. They're all shit. Every single one. Maybe EVGA is ok but they're only making highly niche boards for overclocking which is essentially dead at this point due to binning.

Reasons why mobos are all shit
>each company has like 2 people maybe supporting bios updates
>all the components are made in the same place, manufacturers are just slapping them on a PCB
>all specs under tight control from cpu manufacturers so any variations are extremely slight
>VRMs are a non issue unless you overclock

They've ballooned in price massively and for no good reason. What an awful time to try to put together a PC

>>717797276 (OP)
I did NOT have fun

the aiming is weird and doesn't feel like i'm in full control ( no matter how much i thinker with the options)
the maps are cramped, boring and overall shit
balance is all screwed up, every single conquest lobby i joined all my guys were useless fucks being pushed at spawn

>>717815423
no shit its boring, the betas got like 2 maps and a handful of weapons

>>717830235
I don't disagree with you but gigabyte shit has been disproportionately affected by Secureboot issues compared to other manufactures.

>>717802637
The worst one is BFV, followed closely by 2042.

>>717816589
It's also not supposed to not do any damage to flesh and bone when its point of explosion is inches away.

old battlefields are on sale, which should i play until i can get more bf6

>>717816446
I hear you, but given how risk averse AAA games are I have to give them some props for trying anything different.
You also have to consider that they made that decision in the late 00s when web 2.0 and social media was in full swing.

>matches last about 20 mins
Is this a beta thing or will remain like this?
I like it. But I wouldn't mind if somehow it had 1:30 hour back and forth all out war.
But it's ok, I have Hell Let Loose for that sort of thing.

>>717800672
But it's not big. It's long and interesting but not big..

>>717833310
They fucked up with the gay king of the hill mode
they couldn't made the "hill" a military base or farm town or some large objective in the center of the map that both teams would have a massive battle for control over with tons of vertical on the edges and interior, flanking routes, strongholds, etc. but no they made it fucking 8v8 hardpoint

I just played the new bo6 zombies map.
shit mal but the gunplay and responsiveness of cod is just 20x better. Can’t call with that bf sloppa

>make 17+ games with shotguns in them over the course of 23 years
>"After seeing the shotgun in the open beta, we may need to make some adjustments :)"

>>717833310
Luckily on release someone can make a mode in portal where kills don't count down tickets and only objectives matter. Or maybe you could make objectives not matter and only kills count!

>>717819015
Get spotted, bush wookie.

Qt.
>>717833517
I only play Conquest and Breakthrough. I don't care for small scale in BF games.
However Breakthrough on the open field maps is impossible if you are attacking and there is no sniper limiter.
>>717833749
YES, fuck killcount. It should be objective hold based.

>>717819015
Don't worry, they will keep their massive shiny star visible. I LMG-ed a lot because of their star. Also their model is a black guy. Lol. Serves them well.

>>717834106
>I only play Conquest and Breakthrough. I don't care for small scale in BF games.
that's my point, king of the hill should be a large scale game mode on a large map with the "hill" being a central fortification or zone in the center of the map
like take the whole Cairo map (or maybe scale it down to 80% or something idk) and make that the "hill" you have to control, and build a whole map around it

>>717833640
shotguns dominated in bf3/4 on the cqc maps and no one cared but tranny server admins. It's just they made all the maps cqc in bf6..

>>717834378
There is some time to fix it or expand it.. Hopefully they will listen to polls and players this time.

I like it. It's older Call of Duty at worst. I stopped playing COD by the time BF4 came out and decided that COD was shit and I never wanted to play it again. Then I'd remember how fun COD4 and W@W could be sometimes and wondered if I was biased toward BF because BF1942 was literally my first online shooter and I've always had nostalgia for BF.
Then I played Warzone and it was the most miserable experience ever, I never had any fun and was just playing because it was free and other friends were playing it. COD is so much worse now it's unbelievable and I'm not talking about the retarded skins and crossovers, I was playing Warzone before that, it just felt like shit to play.
Maybe regular COD multiplayer is better or something but I don't know, it's just easier on my mind that BF6 is fun enough that I can just continue to disregard COD like I have since Blops 1.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>717797276 (OP)
i think its the best bf game since bf3 and bf4, bf1 looked good but played like shit compared to this

>>717797276 (OP)
It is fun you're right except for women voicing "Nice shot!" like fuck off let us turn that shit off

>>717802478
>bf1: sinai, dogshit
Is this bait

>>717802353
engineer squads were literally the second most cancerous thing in battlefield next to sniper campers

suck a dick, faggot, you're literally what made battlefield as a franchise get more and more toxic with each iteration

Why couldn't they have left the beta up for the whole week

>>717808646
All these game companies misuse the word beta. You don't call something coming out in 2 months a beta

I only had fun in the mix bot lobbies. Everything else was just retards camping

>>717818498
Bad Company games still had bulletdrop

>>717797276 (OP)
I can rarely spawn on any allies because if there is even a whiff of combat near them it blocks respawn. meanwhile I can be shooting an enemy down an alley and actively see his squad spawning in on him during our fight.

>ITT: soloplaying infantry-niggercattle crying about vehicles
You're the reason this franchise has died. Instead of learning to play in a team and using all assets at your disposable, you chose to piss, shit and cry until EA/DICE obliged and "balanced" the game around the absolute worst fairweather players in existemce, ditching combined arms and the franchise's identity. Like the niggercattle you are, you'll never admit a fault, never try to improve and buy any and all slop shilled to you by the bajillion e-grifting parasocialites you're subscribed to.

Unless you actually played all assets -- ground, air and infantry -- your input on balance is worse than worthless: it's detrimental to yourself and the game. You don't play the game to have fun, you play the game to shit on other players that happen to be even more retarded than you are, so you expect that every vehicle player is out for your blood specifically and only playing to ruin your fun. Yet you are so insignficant and bad a player, that the only memorable thing abourtyou is your incessant crying in chat.

How good were jets? I never got to try one.
Because if jets are good I'm not buying this game. BF3 was ruined when they nerfed every jet counter into the ground.

>fix enemies/friendlies spawning right into the back of the attacking enemy
>add objective lockdowns so enemies can't spawn on contested flags, rewarding bold moves by players
>reduce player numbers on maps like Cairo and Iberia
>Remove Recon
There I fixed the game

Game is garbage. If you argue this you are subhuman retard and you are everything that wrong with games today

>>717837961
>1
someone needs to hold a position[called overwatch] behind your team assaulting the point so that this can't happen
>2
This is stupid, it rewards solos driving to backlines in a jeep and backcapping. Nothing in a game where the death timer is 5 seconds is going to be a bold move.

>>717837971
Say it louder for the mouthbreathers with streamer EA cock stuck down their throat, in the back

I don't understand how a battlefield fan can say this game was good. The game is EA literally admitting defeat and copying COD.

>>717838145
>This is stupid, it rewards solos driving to backlines in a jeep and backcapping.
It should work like in BF2. If theres an enemy presence around the spawn points of the flag you can't spawn. This used to happen the most in Karkand at the first flag and helped dislodging defenders from chokepoint city.

>>717837860
>.t niggercattle spending more time looking at the respawn button whilst crying chat, than actually playing
Want to counter jets in BF3?
>1) learn to fly jets
>2) coordinate with your team
The reason you infantry-niggercattle struggle so much: you don't communicate and don't learn.

Instead of playing the AA properly and with support, you sit in your spawn 24/7. Instead of organizing loadouts, all of you ragespawn with stingers, leaving yourself vulnerable to armor.
Instead of learning to fly jets (and thus its weaknesses) you use it to ram or taxi, leaving your team at a disadvantage for most of the game.
(...)
You may aswell change [jet] to any other vehicle, good players and medicore teams dominate bad/solo players. I digress. Be happy: now the franchise is a CoD clone balanced with skill gap compression via RNG elements.

>>717836157
Taking it down for a few days hopefully means they'll actually fix things, like the shoddy hit detection, cairo exploits, and the spawn feature not working/claiming a spawn point is "in combat" as you watch in real time as everyone else is allowed to spawn on that exact person.

>>717797276 (OP)

We already played 3 maps, that's 1/3 of the launch lineup and they are not great. Some mechanics and bugs you can fix but the map designs is a lot harder and probably won't change much

>>717838837
>talking all this shit
Meanwhile, when any air vehicle can be downed by one non-countermeasured AA missile:
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF AA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Are shotguns OP? Everyone seemed to be running them in infantry maps

game heats up the cpu extremely bad to a point it overheats.

>>717839228
>>REEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF AA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I am former shitbucketeer, faggot. If I die to AA, I deserve it. That said: It's mostly new jet pilots who got farmed by jets, started learning it, grew to big of an ego facing soloplaying niggercattle-infrantry in 9/10 of all matches, and lose their shit in the 1/10 they face any meaningful resistance. Playing all assets greatly improves ones perspective.

it was fucking garbage
are battlefield fags really this desperate to shill this piece of shit?

>>717833013
It's actually not even supposed to detonate unless it goes through a specific amount of concrete/steel.

>>717838672
That's cool that it worked that way 20 years ago when the people playing the game actually cared about more mechanics than hold w and shoot enemy. That's not how it works now.

>>717803578
>BC2 moment
We're going back to Vietnam? FUCK YES

>>717840249
>>717838672
you fucking zoomie larpers, holy shit. BF2 didn't restrict spawns if someone was on the flag. That wasn't a thing at all. Fucking /v/ doesn't play vidya

>>717805312
>Have worked in a casino to see this live
>It keeps happening with the senior shittizens
They're too stupid for this machine's gimmick.
>Literally have to put money in to play and during play the cashnado alert can occur.
>Land special symbol for the 'cash grab' feature during the cashnado alert, and THEN you c a tard touch the screen for 4 bucks.
I've never seen a filter this strong in life...

>>717840590
I'm sorry I didn't dedicate my childhood to vanilla bf2, mods were much more interesting. Also never picked it back up

>>717840948
What mod was locking a point out while capping it even a thing? Get your shit straight. It's so annoying to hear people tout how great the old days were and they didn't even fucking participate. Common theme with nearly everything.

>>717810671
>Shotgun is one shot one kill bullshit.
>He never got in the glory of the Neostead 2000 and slugs to one-shot enemy snipers, pluck drivers out of helicopters, and otherwise one tap enemies from a mile away
God I miss it.

>>717840948
>be wrong
>get called out for being wrong
>ERM SORRY I DIDN'T [hyperbolic retard faggot response]

The last decent BF game was BF 2142 and the best BF game ever made was pic related BF: It ain't me

>>717805682
What if there was a player who was the commander for their team and he could open up his map and give orders to the squad leaders who could pass on their orders so their squad members could see them and the squads would then move around the map. Maybe there could be a voice channel where the SLs and Commander could speak to each other and perhaps he could have some utility he could use like an artillery bombardment and maybe he could just drop a crate of supplies on the map and run a scan every once in a while and he could spot enemy assets when he sees them appear on his map after a scan and the rest of the team sees them spotted on the map but not in 3d because that's weaksauce.

>>717841458
>No one wants to hear you larping as a commander or a squad lead, instant mute
>No one wants to be told how to play by some 14 year old, ignoring your orders
>No one wants to sit in commander for every single match, if either team doesn't have a commander one sided stomp

>>717841458
>ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED
>ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED
>ENEMY INF
>ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED

>>717811712
That's not true, they've done this kind of reset before already with Modern Warfare 2019.

>>717841458
You could literally do this in BF 2 and they abandoned it because no one wanted to be the guy who watched everyone play.

>>717818085
I played BF1 a whole lot and I never once saw a planefag destroy a whole lobby like a dedicated jet or attack helicopter player could in 3 or 4.

Assault can change the shotgun to a DMR or whatever

>>717841853
not true at all. BF2 had fucking commander elections at the beginning of every round. There was always some grognard spamming infantry spotted in chat. There were rules in nearly every server against "fighting commanders" because new players didn't know what the role even was. Artillery strikes were oppressive and hilarious. Mutiny votes were spammed all the time because commander was actually fun in BF2 (and 2142), unlike in BF4.

It's insane that people pretend to have played Bf2. Stop fucking larping, shitter

>new game sucks ass as usual
Ah....you were at my side all along.....

>>717841161
>What mod was locking a point out while capping it even a thing?
That was already in vanilla BF2 but it happened very rarely due how large maps were. The first flag at Karkand was notorious for that.

>>717842174
no, it didn't fucking happen, anon. Never, ever. You could neutralize the flag before capping it which is probably what you're thinking of, but you could spawn if someone was on the cap.

>>717842128
>There were commanders every weekend in my favorite clan's server that I used to play on and they tolerated my squeaky ass
I don't care about your livejournal

>>717842128
>not true at all. BF2 had fucking commander elections at the beginning of every round
oh please now you are lying. After the hype of the first week the position would be empty only temporarily filled with someone wanted to launch artillery or a UAV and then they would switch back to infantry. Again there is a reason why they don't do this anymore if it was popular they would have kept it

How is this Cod-like Battlefield any different from all the titles starting from BF3?

Hard mode: No mention of small maps.

>>717842271
Yes it did you fucking nigger, assault (proto breakthrough) was notorious for that because of chokepoint city. Once enough enemies were around the flag and alleys blocking potential spawn points the flag goes on lockdown until you clear them out. It works the same in BF6 albeit much shittier.

>could reinstall bf3 or bf4
>zoomers could buy them for $5 each
or you could buy the bf3 remaster for $70

>>717800881
>>717815535
Tarkov is OBJECTIVELY clunky. Getting used to it doesn't make it not clunky.

>>717839229
kind of but the perception is mostly because the maps are fuckass small and ideal for shotguns. It's braindead to use while hipfiring but the range isn't actually that good compared to past battlefield shotguns.
Then again if all the maps are gonna be as small as the ones we have right now then shotguns are definitely overpowered, because 90% of iberian offensive is basically optimal shotgun range.

>>717841408

>>717842435
low TTK
guns are too accurate
straight upgrade gun parts

>>717842435

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_Z3P2Ok1o
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS

I haven't played a Battlefield game since Bad Company 2. Is C4 weaker than normal in this game or has it been weak for longer? I miss being able to insta-kill infantry and kill tanks with 2 C4s.

>>717842710
The TTK isn't anywhere near CoD levels. This is obvious from just looking at the damage numbers.
LMG shots do 17% damage for fuck's sake.

>>717842954
LMGs and suppression effects in general need a buff

>>717841972
>I played BF1 a whole lot and I never once saw a planefag destroy a whole lobby
Potency of air vehicles scales proptionally to the amount of soloplaying niggercattle. That aside, from a shitbucketeers perspective: planes in BF1 have been better infantry blenders than even choppers in BF3/BF4. The only meaningful difference in terms of air vehicles between the games was the lack of meaningful anti armor capability in BF1 -- it was more profitable to just strafe trenches, than engage armor. I've felt nastier flying planes in BF1 than jets in BF3/BF4. Instead of fixing the problem by reshuffling kits to make sure that planes got used to counter armor, DICE simply overtuned AA and small arms fire -- changing just the approach to strafing, but not the farm of infantry.

>>717842435
no spread penalties when moving while shooting, being able to shoot while jumping/sliding, weapon spread being practically nonexistent allowing for people to just magdump and blitz through your health without worrying about accuracy, assault being the blatant call of duty class with perks like overkill and quickdraw being inherent to the class, smgs have a run and gun attachment which allows you to shoot while sprinting, extremely fast health regen to the point where medkits aren't even really necessary, recoil animations/visual recoil so the camera shakes like a spastic retard everytime you shoot a gun with a higher caliber, sniper can oneshot bodyshot, stims
Off the top of my head

>>717842279
>is wrong
>whines
Wasn't in a clan. Just picked a full server with a low ping.
>>717842403
Why would I lie about this, honestly? The sound of commanders spamming voice commands is ingrained into my mind. It was popular enough in those games but they couldn't ever get it to work right in frostbite. Commander mode in BF4 was dogshit

>>717842517
unless the server you were playing on was modded, you're still wrong, shitter. Capping a point was actually contentious in early battlefield games because it didn't lock people out of the cap

>>717842517
To further elaborate this happens when neither team manages to actually hold the flag at hotel (with maybe 1 or 2 enemies hiding at the Hotel entrance) and the enemy team being stuck in that alley where the grenade spam happens. That way they block every single spawn point that exists for the hotel flag due enemy presence.

>>717843038
What is the suppression effect? Because the only thing I noticed was that there's a direction indicator for where you're getting shot from. I never felt like my aim was being affected.

>>717815423
whats the point of lasersights anyway?

>>717843236
>whats the point of lasersights anyway?
improves hipfire accuracy

>>717843236
Reduces hip fire bloom.

>>717843128
fuckall, all it does is prevent HP regain i think
and you shouldn't even be able to regain HP tbhfam, only maybe 25% on res and the rest should come from medpacks which is a mechanic i noticed in the beta that i don't think i once ever used because it's not needed at all with the hp regen system
they should take notes from Insurgency (2014) and Squad

>>717843082
>unless the server you were playing on was modded,
Didnt play any mod.

Sorry you had to play BF2 but never experience all its mechanics.

>>717842954
They need to increase the TTK in this game by like 1.5-2 to make it BF4 levels.

>>717843082
>Why would I lie about this, honestly?
No idea but they retired the system so clearly you are wrong and lying

>>717843491
>retiring a mechanic means it was bad
ok

>>717797276 (OP)
Shit game made for brainless sheep. Just like 2042, you’re gonna fall for it again

>>717841458
>Nuclear Dawn had this
>Dead game.
>Natural Selection/2 had this
>Dead game
>My beloved Savage had this + RTS mechanics!
>So fucking dead
Commander mode is bad.

Wish we got a Rising Storm 3 or Red Orchestra 3 with the production values of the Battlefield series.
In most ways, RS/RO does a far better job in terms of actual gunplay and feeling like you are actually in a military engagement than Battlefield.

>>717843534
Yes and that you were lying.

>>717843362
Do supply packs not give passive regen?

>>717843584
i wish, but i doubt they'd go back to a game focused on bolt action rifles

>>717843697
you can take health off their backs or something, not sure about supply packs
either way i don't think health should auto regen
you should be brought back at like 25-33% hp or something so you can survive one bullet but after that you should need a medic to rev you to 100

>>717843863
Medpacks only reduce the time needed until your own reggen starts. I feel like Gordon Freeman with the Heva suit whenever the reggen kicks in.

>>717844027
>Medpacks only reduce the time needed until your own reggen starts
well then they should change it
i feel like they should really emphasize the squad roles, recon feels particularly not significant for example

>>717843049
Add.: One of the greatest issues of the franchise has always been a botched system of incentives. While in an air vehicle you should get significantly more points on armor kills than on infantry, and only a pittance on infantry that's not equipped with AA.

>>717844179
Are you kidding? With how shit the breakthrough maps were for attackers, literally the only way to actually take the last miserable point was to have recons (with carbines) plant spawn beacons right on the objective. So you could stall out the mutual spawn-camp clusterfuck long enough to actually eke out the win.
That being said most of the people who play recon just want to roleplay as lighthouses so naturally they feel more useless than they actually are.

>>717797276 (OP)
I had fun as well, but /v/ hates fun as we all know.

>>717844473
but recons don't get spawn beacons in the final version, assault gets them
not sure what they'll be replaced with as a gadget
also they need to tone down the glint it's way too high

>>717843236
cats love them

The game needs something, I don't want to say kill streaks but like with Titanfall some progress bar that gives you something. Maybe you can summon a stronger version of a vehicle I don't know

>>717844697
you can repair faster or stronger or something as engineer, you can call a rc plane as recon and support can turn himself into a med bag, assault can activate heavy breathing

For me, it was pic or should I say, PEAK

>>717844868
Yea that is all boring

>>717844697
fuck your zoomer dopamine rush craze

>>717844697
They should just bring back Behemoths like an MLRS with huge ass rockets or an AC130 or a TU160 bomber.

>>717844641
They should bring back laser designators and figure out a way to force Recon to actually use them.

>>717844994
It's not 1996 anymore gramps games have changed. Any game that doesn't have a chase of some kind dies

I enjoyed it somewhat. I haven't noticed any bugs at all which surprised me.
I have to see the other maps before I decide to buy it and even then 70 bucks is a bit much. Should be 40 at the most.

I feel like I'm in the minority in that I think the maps we got are plenty big enough. At the very least i never actually thought "I wish these maps were bigger", although i did wish Liberation Peak had like, one extra chopper and jet per side.

>I had fun
Who asked?

>>717845874
>we got are plenty big enough
The maps are dogshit because they are to small. Any person that actually enjoys Cairo must have a brain parasite.

>>717802637
Trvthnvke

>>717846015
Well I did have 3 cats in my childhood.

>>717843406
this poster was so stupid he made me reinstall the game and boot up into a local match. You can spawn on a flag right up until it gets neutralized. What a waste of 5 minutes

>>717845027
AC130 behemoth would be based. But retards would just crash it unless it was on rails around the map like BF3/4

Guys if you ever liked commander mode and have 2042 just get a pondhawk fly somewhere high and just look at the battle and watch vehicles you look at get blown up all of the sudden. It's neat

>>717843127
do this >>717843127 and report back fuckface (good luck). You retards jump into conversation and read only what you want to read like children closing their ears.

>>717802205
>looking for meaning in grinding a video game

>>717846396
Was for >>717846163

>>717802205
i hope you and every person like you dies a painful death in a fire so the video game industry can finally heal
fuck you

>>717846603
>anon says you can't cap while enemies are at the capture point
>actually I meant it's when the flag is neutralized or it hasn't been captured yet
put down the goalposts, anon

>>717846209
It would be kinda hard to balance. Its either easy pickings by the enemy plane or it will be broken if its to hard to shoot down.

>>717797276 (OP)
If they removed the black women and the chinkoid women I would buy it

>>717846782
I never claimed such a thing.

My posts start with those mentioning Karkand because the first flag on Assault is the one that has it happen occasionaly.

Reminder not to get your hopes up, they've already announced battlepasses and A LOT of shitty cosmetics

>>717842892
>implying small maps werent in all the aforementioned BF games