How can we save Square Enix now that Final Fantasy XVI is going down the drain too?
Should we try to recruit more people to sub or try to talk up the game maybe?
Serious replies only.

is this a bot?

>XVI
>subs
Do you mean XIV? Also why would I pay to play a single player every month when I can do OSRS?

>>717805887
No that's a post.

>>717805854 (OP)
I bet if we just keep telling people that they're wrong and Dawntrail is good we can convince them.

>>717805887

>>717806141
COMING IN HOT

>>717806070
wait, i was wrong and dawntrail is good? sounds like it's time to resub and buy whatever cash shop bullshit they sell these days
mounts or w/e

How would you rate your experience with DAWNTRAIL MSQ 7.0 TO 7.3 BY HIROI DAICHI?

>>717806373

>>717806318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abN3Z9pVbL4

>>717805854 (OP)
subbing to final fantasy xvi (16 [sixteen]) to pwn the voices in my head

>>717806453
same bruh

>>717806373
7.0 was a genuine 1/10 - actively miserable to play at all times
I did not continue playing after that so I can’t speak on 7.x

>>717805887
Nope! 100% hand-posted by our very own lolcow

Trying to catch up to judge the game since I quit on launch in 7.0. So far 7.1 was awful and a waste of time and everyone involved doesn't know how to write worth a shit. I have low expectations for 7.2 and 7.3. I just wanted to level a few classes 90-100 and unsub until the next expansion or never sub again depending if the next expansion looks like shit. 8.0 is going to cement whatever direction they choose.

>>717806373
>DAWNTRAIL MSQ 7.0 TO 7.3 BY HIROI DAICHI BASED ON THE EXTENSIVE POLITICAL RESTRICTIONS OF NAOKI YOSHIDA

>>717806373

>>717806373
>7.0
6/10
>7.1
3/10
>7.2
5/10
>7.3
4/10

>>717807229
>you were abandoned 20 years ago?! HUUUH?! i can't possibly imagine how that happened, we NEVER abandon anyone here in this tribe!!
>wait is that a dinosaur? wow that reminds me of 20 years ago when that young couple left their child in my care to go fight a dinosaur and i just left him lmao

>>717807338
How was 7.3 lower than Blue's Clues featuring papa's peas?

>>717807408
nta but vaglimanda and eternal queen fights maybe?

>>717805887
Different poster. They forgot to post the follow up image.

>>717807446
Queen Eternal is one of the most infuriating parts of 7.0...

>>717807509
it was pretty hype before they kicked us in the dick.

>>717806373
I liked it about as much as I did Stormblood overall and I thought it ended on a stronger note than Stormblood did. It was competent enough and Calyx was handled well, so was Necron. The Cat was drastically oversold on how annoying she was going to be by /v/ threads, and I ended up liking her marginally more than Lyse, to keep the Stormblood comparison going. Actually, what struck me this expansion was that only 7.1 was really a filler patch, as far as the main story goes. It isn't like Shadowbringers where literally nothing happened as the Scions said their goodbyes to their host regions, because they had to waste time until 5.3 and Elidibus.

I thought the FF9 adaptation was handled well and that a super-advanced and computerized civilization was an interesting and logical way to adapt from a game that itself had themes of technological advancement and industry being used for both good and bad. I hope they don't crutch on FF adaptations in the future for other shards, that theme will wear very thin very quickly after two expansions of it now with FF4 & Tactics Void and FF9 Ninth.

6.5 to 7.5/10 depending on area. 8/10 for gear design (love the Occult Crescent berserker and cannoneer sets!), 9/10 on artifact armors. Flexible 7.5/10 to 10/10 on music, Tuliyollal's big band and Kenny G were amazing choices, and I love the Arcadion having a unique track for every instance with a large genre range. 6.5/10 to 7/10 on fight designs (Valigarmanda EX stands out for the Mountain Fire mechanic alone; positively orgasmic to play it as a tank), until the raid refreshes kicked in with Arcadion's second floor, then 8.5/10 and I'm excited to see more.

>>717807446
>fight that gets ruined by SPEEEEEEN...! at the end

>>717807546
Yeah, that's why it's infuriating. It was awesome until it suddenly wasn't.

I swear this board's hate-boner for SE is worse than for any other company.

>>717807550
Oh, also, 9/10 on visual design for all the zones and locales in this expansion, they knocked it out of the park in Dawntrail, all of the Pirates of the Caribbean and One Piece influence on this expansion is really coming through. Everywhere is gorgeous to look at.

>>717805854 (OP)
delete this thread and make a proper one retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpZpQdt1HGY

Has anyone download this mod and has it for free? it has individual stances for monk forms

>>717805854 (OP)
>now that Final Fantasy XVI is going down the drain too?
but your screenshot is talking about 14 not 16

>>717807602
/v/ carries the torch from GameFAQs in having people ravingly insane about Square Enix and whoever it believes is currently heading Final Fantasy as a franchise.

>>717807550
>>717807608
All this hard work by the team ruined by hiroi

damn i would be furious if i was the topograhic landscape guy.

>>717807650
same difference

>>717807665
Sorry, anon, I'm not interested in joining the Hiroi Hate Parade. I thought my review made that fairly clear.

>>717805854 (OP)
Save what? You don't get paid to save shit so why do you care if they fucked up, maybe instead of doing a free advertising campaign like a faggot you just move on.

>>717807550
What's really funny is that you think I can't see you.

>>717807718
head scenario writer ruined the expansion.

>>717807718
Here, let me post one of your triggers.

>>717807768
Yes, I also have eyes, and can read posts.

god i hated gulool ja so much and them spending so much time on literal who oblivion was retarded as well.

>>717805854 (OP)
Fire all Californians
Fire all junior executives
Ban social media in the Squeenix office

>>717807768
>>717807808
Oh I see now, this is some kind of bit you're doing. I did forget this was a financials thread so the name Eric is gonna get flung around a lot.

>>717807869
I'd argue the other way around. Fire all senior executives. They're old retarded boomers who know nothing of anything.

Final Fantasy 14 only became popular by copying WoW.

>>717807815
Oh good, then you can see this.
>>717807887
>try to pretend to be a newcomer who saw /v/ shitting on wuk before you ever touched dawntrail
>give up the act instantly
You're too stupid for this, little buddy. Surely there's a dog you can jack off to on /trash/ so you can leave us alone to have a nice thread.

>>717807358
I thought I was having a fever dream going through 7.1. The writing is so bad my brain was actively trying to dump it immediately. Same thing happened with Monster Hunter Wilds.

Remember the time the wuk defender tried to say that Lyse also tried to killsteal your final boss, only to be forced to admit he didn't remember the cutscene he was talking about at all and he made it all up?
Kinda reminds me of that post up above trying to claim Lyse is worse than Wuk lol...

What activist funding? QRD on that last sentence?

>>717807954
>>717808030
This whole roleplaying session of being the Moby Dick to your captain Ahab, would hit a lot harder if it wasn't already painfully common among /v/'s clinically insane. I'm going to let you go now so you can be sad and hear yourself talk, but I just wanted you to know I've seen five hundred people just like you today already, and they weren't interesting either.

>>717808063
Singaporean group is buying up a gorillion stocks so they can start giving orders to the company to get their shit together and make them more money.
>>717808085
You have to actually attempt to change your writing style if you want to play dumb. Can you start spamming about techopse or whatever boogeyman is on your mind tonight?

>>717808030
>zenos killed himself after getting tranny primal powers and still lost

what a faggot.

>>717808063
Activist in the other sense, somebody buying up enough stock to have influence to get the company to be less retarded so they can make money from the company's decline reversing rather than progressive activism.
Although progressive activism can hide behind such things, still Square are already full woke so surely anybody out to make things more progressive would have better things to spend their money on, I want to be hopeful.

>>717808063
it's not activist as in "for a good cause" it's activist as in "wants to actively control your company"

>>717807887
he just posted evidence of your observations not only being wrong but by a mathmatical metric of Wuk being over 10 times worse than Lyse. Retard, we live in an era of stats. I can see with that graph that Wuk has the 3rd most lines across all expansions combined. When stormblood came Lyse didn't even have close to that amount and there was only 1 expansion before it. There is hard data how many words were said by every character and Wuk Lamat getting 3000 lines in 1 expansion which is almost as much as Alisaie and she has been around since 2.0 that really really says a lot. Lyse from StormBlood -> NOW still sits at 1,246 lines and 20k words, Wuk being at 39k not only makes your observations downsyndrome tier you clearly don't even read anything in front of you. Looking at the player numbers, clearly the delusional morons are the only ones that even attempt to defend this dogshit writing. 3k lines is insane by any metric. You compare Lyse a character with half the words said as Wuk? At least Lyse was somewhat interesting as a political leader by comparison. The entire world design of Stormblood was better and Stormblood was truly mid.

>>717808664
we live in an era of retards obsessing over stats
shut up before your word count exceeds wuk lamat's

wuk lemat being ultra super wuk in 7.0 then being weak alisaie wuk who gets bloody hands from hitting a shield was such a ridiculous course correction it makes hiroi even look worse. diarrhea is on everyon because of one writer and one localizer. very impressive

>FF11
>FF14
>FF17
It's time for the next FF MMO

>>717808749
I don't remember her really doing anything super special in 7.0 outside of "speeeen leesin to me". I guess she needed to limit break to trudge past Bakool Ja Ja on the power scale but that's peanuts to your player character.

>>717807301
You know I'm convinced that this part of the MSQ was gonna have a big "Wuk suddenly appears by jumping down from the balcony" moment but it got axed because they learned Wuk was so disliked they kept her involvement to a minimum and kept her as one note as possible

>>717807907
Fair. Maybe we can agree fire all of their executives, they've got problems and don't seem to understand they make video games.

>>717808851
so many retcons rewrites all because they listened to some gay pozzed consultation group and kate.

>>717808731
we live in an era where it is easy to prove shilling wrong, swiftly. That single image is enough for any retard normalfag to see it and check out, people don't like a single character getting 3k lines in a single expansion. No matter who it is that is exhausting. Only a retarded jap with no sense of storytelling can see that graph and think it is ok. It's no wonder Tencent is spitting on Square Enix and running circles around them. Blue Protocol is about to clean up any remnants.

>>717808843
You forgot Wuk breaking through time and space to invade the final boss fight and give you a buff on par with Hydaelyn's blessing?
We know you didn't actually forget and you're trying to play totally unbiased fence sitter again.

>>717807602
>this board's hate-boner for SE
>if youre not praising it and trying to say its good you hate it
Nigga no one owes SE anything if they serve a shit product. Holy shit you victim mentality fuckers are that obsessed with defending a company that youll overlook the obvious drop in quality if it means "owning" your schizophrenic enemies.

>>717809058
>we
fatherless behavior
be insane on your own merits and stand your own ground

>>717808843
you disingenuous nigger.

i'm 95% sure that ealdnarche here is aware of the player. sareel ja may be as well

>>717809037
>normalfag
>charts and graphs
You're gonna bore the fucking shit out of normalfags before you can even impress on them how objectively correct it is to hate Wuk Lamat.

>>717806373
It was shit up until the Necron fight which was fun and kino and the scene afterward where the WoL nukes the memory core while wuk lmao is on the ground like a bitch. I swear this expansion would have been 10 times better if Y'shtola didn't leave you alone with the other NPCs so often.

>HAHAH IM AN EVIL MAMOOLJEW JERK

he should have stayed in msq. it was very refreshing and non pretentious to have an asshole villian instead of some cuck"grounded political slop" trannies want who has a better reason blah blah blah to be evil dogshit from matsuno or 2.0

>>717809250
>>717809145
get a job

>>717809154
Wuk already bored the shit out of everyone, little buddy. Nobody needs charts or graphs. The charts and graphs were made because people already hated the fuck out of her and just had a sick curiosity about how bad it really was. You will never dismiss the facts. You will never convince people Wuk was even acceptable, let alone good. You will rage and beat your fat little dogfucker fists on your phone until you heroically take your own life.

>>717805854 (OP)
Squeenix deserves to die. NIHAHAHA!

>every SE/XIV thread has one dude trying to justify or defend all criticism or people calling SE or XIV out
does this nigga even sleep? is he like Barry just constantly browsing /v/ and social media for anyone that even remotely slights XIV or SE?

>>717809492
He usually goes to sleep around 4 AM EST, so if the thread survives until then we can have something resembling normalcy.

>>717809302
Yeah, shills keep trying to downplay it. Ive been around for every expansion and I will never forget Dawntrail launch. I have never seen so many people openly hate what they were playing. Even compared to other MMOs. Never seen that kind of drop off except maybe Mists of Pandaria/WoD in the wow days in the 2010s. Funny, when that was happening is when FFXIV ARR came out and was a nice cure from the MMO fatigue even then. Man this genre has been shit for too long. Im even excited for Maplestory Classic at this point.

>>717809561
>>717809492
>>717809302
lol
inb4 1 reply

>>717809587
it was boring and shit. god damn what a disappointment they shit out. People really need to be sent to the basement for this flub. 10 years of good will gone.

>>717809587
>I have never seen so many people openly hate what they were playing.
Destiny 2 had that and also had a massive loss of players in one expansion like XIV and DT.

>>717809561
I swear I see this dude at any time of day in any XIV thread.

>>717809587
Weird to say you've never seen open contempt for a game like for XIV before and then cite WoW

>>717809587
I want to hope that Ragnarok 3 will be good.

>>717809701
because WoW is another great example, THEMEPARK GAMES DO NOT GOOD GAMES MAKE IN THE LONG TERM. THIS HAS BEEN EVIDENCED FOR MANY YEARS. THE KOREANS FIGURED THIS OUT IN THE 2000S

>>717809749
Themepark games work fine in the long term, you need somebody that isn't a retard at the helm and you definitely need somebody that isn't a government plant (Ion Hazzikostas)

>>717807509
>Get deemed the biggest threat by AI Sphene
>All other characters get pushed out of the dataspace
>Finallysomegoodfuckingfood.gif
>Halfway through the boss fight
>Suddenly Wuk 4th wall break
>Takes out roughly 15% of the bosses hp instantly.
I will never understand why they thought it was smart for her to take the WoL's kill there.

>>717809749
Yes because that's why Korean mmos are the most popular and rules the genre.

>>717809802
Because the story is between her and Sphene, had this been a single player FF it would be Wuk fighting not us

>>717809803
Correct, Dungeon Fighter Online still makes more money than just about any game in the industry. Do you really want to go down this road?

15 clears of sandoria and the piece i want still hasn't dropped. should i keep at it?

and no, i still suck at the fights

>>717809896
That part of the story was NOT for Wuk, we were deemed the threat it was our fight not the anthro cat that most people do not like.

does anybody else see the guys crying about shills seconds after trying to go schizo hunting or is it just me noticing you've got roaches in the walls in here

>>717805854 (OP)
maybe fix the subscription process? currently it's impossibe to sub via steam and i am not using their shitty 1990 dial-up website.

>>717809950
>That part of the story was NOT for Wuk
It genuinely was the final clash is a literal metaphor for their clashing ideas on how to rule, WoL is just there because we need a trial for the players

>>717809929
>15 clears of sandoria and the piece i want still hasn't dropped.
I did Jeuno once a day for a month after it dropped and got 0 (ZERO) orchestrion rolls. You can't have worse luck than me so keep at it. What piece do you want?
>and no, i still suck at the fights
They're just dodging...

>>717810040
the caster hat. the only way for me to get cuter than having one ribbon is having two

He's vagueposting like he's talking to an audience again.

>>717807338
>7.0
2, tops
>7.1 and so on
wouldn't know, didn't re-sub

>>717810093
Ignore dumpy doing that, he keeps trying to bait out his imaginary friends.

>was interested in resubbing and buying DT
>nearly my entire FC quit
Is there anything worth doing for at least a month or two? Or am I better off just grinding away in Warframe?

>>717810092
I do like the ribbons. Such a kino quest too.

Nothing after the credits rolled on 6.0 is canon.

>>717810216
I'm glad I only subbed for 6.0 launch and finished it. Just the final fight and the cheesiness of Zenos was great.

>>717810216
There's that big ol' cliffhanger Fandaniel left of other Ascians still being around.

I still remember people telling us last expansion she was going to fucking kill this game after she openly stated she made pixies Non-Binary and was happy to use lore to make the Dragons follow her ideology. If only we knew she was going to bring her tranny VA into this fucking game. At least to be fair to the tranny, he's just the cherry on top of the shitpile that is Wuk given no region likes the fucking character.

>>717810393
no just no

>>717810393
When there's smoke there's fire.

>>717810428
no question was asked

>>717810393
Pattern recognition makes Cassandra of us all.

>>717810393
I do remember the one we know now as the folder dumper regularly throwing fits about pixie genders whenever he got bored of talking about Elpis.

The last playerscope update before Square Enix's ninjas killed the mod

>>717805854 (OP)
>70% of gaming discussion is fucking square Enix financial reports
Damn are games really that boring now?

>>717805854 (OP)
More game releases with Denuvo tacked on will save Square Enix.

>>717810552
G R I M

>>717810393
Would bringing back Koji actually save this game or is it so far gone with the cracks finally revealed after DT flopped?

>>717810005
Ironic they cry about shills when haters are the ones constantly advertising this game lmao

>>717810552
>300,523
Wait wtf. The last one I saw was like 560k active players. No way this game finally went sub-500k.

>>717810626
It would be a start.
A lot more people would still need to be replaced, Koji himself can't save everything.

>>717810552
that number reads to me like they didn't have very many scouts for head-counting anymore (scared shitless by square taking active measures against the plogon or simply not wanting to be caught in any crossfire), i'd defer to luckybancho
>>717810636
>you will never advertise a game better than some obsessed cunt that demands you hate it with him

>>717810696
>i'd defer to luckybancho
Earlier today you said luckybancho wasn't a valid source.

>>717810726
i also told you to tie your shoes and remember to take your pills earlier today

>>717810696
>many scouts
That data is from 88 characters spread thru all the XIV datacenters constantly scraping ids 24/7. Even one account per datacenter is enough to grab accurate info as long as its scraping 24/7.

>>717807509
its so frustrating since the azem symbol reveal into a great fight with amazing music, was genuinely the first kino sequence in that whole expac
then the music became shit and you hear a tranny sound like a total fucking amateur (the first version) and he steals the kill while doing the most damage

>>717810834
don't you have to actually perceive a character in the backend for playerscope to scrape it? that seems silly that luckybancho would invent players out of nothing. something is fucky with its data to not match with luckybancho where it did on previous scans

>>717810858
>the first version
The second one isn't much better

Will Yoshi-P apologize for putting Dark Souls tier savage mechanics in casual dungeons?

>>717810272
tranny poster.

>>717805854 (OP)
They should do a 6 part remake of FFVII Remake

>>717810920
>scroll through their post history
>"game losing money and players!"
I smell a sockpuppet.

Also based Miqo'te.

>>717810901
>don't you have to actually perceive a character in the backend for playerscope to scrape it?
Nope. The servers were constantly sending the id data to each client as long as they were connected and the only limitation was it was per datacenter. As long as the character was logged in and running playerscope they were getting all unique ids that were logging in. The info is accurate in regards to the last 30 days only having 300k unique characters logging in constantly. To make it easier to understand
>Character Count
# of characters that have been scanned in-game in Playerscope's lifetime
>Unique Players
# of unique ids/unique accounts that have been csanned in-game in Playerscope's lifetime aka it pairs alts with their main
>Active Characters
# of unique characters actually logging in in a span of 30 days

>>717810913
I actually liked the first version more
since the way he says "is dat a wiff in wealitiy??" is so stupid, the 2nd version is just some tranny shouting while breaking xer's voice and just sounding like a man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Tol_3Cn_s

>>717811056
so what's the enormous discrepancy going on with luckybancho? i get what the numbers ARE but they don't seem to be RIGHT.

>>717811115
LuckyBancho is making educated guesses based on Lodestone profiles. He has his own ways of eliminating players based on the F2P level cap and updates done to characters in 30 days. Still he cant really address who is an alt and who is and isnt setting their profile to private.

>>717811115
>so what's the enormous discrepancy going on with luckybancho?
Playerscope grabs legitimate data from SE whether SE likes it or not and LB has to try and make an estimated range of what the numbers using Lodestone.

>>717810920
It's actually funny at this point that at least half the playerbase is too retarded to realize they have the ultimate learning crutch: duty support. Short of very specific cases where NPCs are scripted to take hits, or they royally cock up somehow, they effectively teach you every required dungeon's pattern and even help you cheat the rare Trial they get to be used in. People are so stubborn on just trial by fire into the 4-man story content and then bitch and moan that it's too hard, but I get the feeling if these folks were streaming you'd see them run into obvious bait or never learn unique tells.

BRAVO SHIT ENIX!!!!
BRAVO!!!!!!!!

>>717811165
yes i also understand what luckybancho is stop explaining the methodologies to me it's not necessary after clearing up how playerscope scrapes. my sticking point is the ENORMOUS discrepancy going on. as in luckybancho is recording, as of june 21st, 648,000 or 578,000 (depending on choice of may 25th or july 27th as most recent comparable data point) successful recency points that don't exist or are arbitrary. that is so high a number and playerscope under so much scrutiny and active tampering by square enix at that point that i do not trust playerscope's number.

>>717811258
>grabs
Grabbed

>>717811441
>ask a question
>get an answer
>YES I UNDERSTAND IT STOP MANSPLAINING ME

>>717811441
>no the quantitative data is lying
>im trusting the guy who has to guess in the long run
So you already made up your mind? Then why ask the question?

>homestuck doubling back and saying luckybancho is a valid source just so he can refuse playerscope
This bitch is SHOOK.

>>717811441
Nigga what?

>>717811540
you aren't questioning the numbers you're getting at all, you're trusting an enormous deviation and writing off a still trustworthy source. bad science.

>>717811115
>>717811441
>so what's the enormous discrepancy going on with luckybancho?
>gets told why luckybancho is very flawed
>NUH UH DONT EXPLAIN IT TO ME THE SERVER DATA ARE LYING

Probably gonna resub this week, partially because I like rash guard style stuff so fuck it may as well get the Moonfaire freebie, but also to just get everything through 7.1 to .3 done now in a burst. The alliance raids, normals, MSQ, maybe see if Occult is worth fucking around with for a while.
It's like, I don't dread going back to the game itself, I was enjoying it a year ago for everything BUT the MSQ, but I feel dread and tension over the return nonetheless.

>>717811635
>>717811582
>>717811550
>>717811514
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>717811610
>data directly from the source is bad science because it's a deviation from a different source which is educated guesswork

>>717805854 (OP)
Just make FFXVII a new mmo and promote all the competent employees to work in that project.

We're all dumpy now because we mocked the retard.

>>717811635
This.
FFXIV is doing great actually. Wuk Lamat is a good character. The story is really nice. They're definitely not losing players. I'm having a blast.

>>717811610
Why woud I question a method of data scraping that gets an even more precise number than the dude guessing based on Lodestone data. Can it be off slightly? Sure but the degree of error from scraping unique ids vs one man cobbling numbers together and trying to p-hack a close enough number. Also LuckyBancho cant actually line up alt characters to one main account like Playerscope can. That alone can create a massive discrepancy. Believe it if you want or not but if I had to bet on which one is more accurate I'll gamble on the one that has had, thanks for reminding me of the recent update >>717811506 since the Blacklist changes might have finally fucked it over, access to server data over a decent guesser.

>>717811823
Ah I'm an idiot and didnt finish a sentence.
> Sure but the degree of error from scraping unique ids vs one man cobbling numbers together and trying to p-hack a close enough number is significantly smaller
My mistake

>>717810552
Wait no that IS really fucking fishy that it lines up with LB for a really long time, then doesn't at all. Dumpy in particular seems pretty attached to the lower number and suddenly his numerous people went up in smoke when he got a mass reply so I don't trust it based on him gargling cock and fucking sucking as a troll and he should have his head crushed under a tire.

>>717811881
Why are you pretending to be a different person? Do you honestly think your writing style isn't recognizable?

>>717811731

>>717811823
>>717811871
no way, six hundred thousand people is above and beyond the margin of error. something stinks.

Told you >>717811731

>>717805854 (OP)
Meanwhile WoW just added the midcore content FFXIV fans have been requesting so much and it's been greatly successful with everyone.

>>717811910
I mean it. Get caught in farming equipment.

>>717811991
Come on, keep going. You're so close to another nuclear meltdown.

>>717811956
Believe what you must. I just explained how both methods get their info. That said the fact that the game has drastically dropped in terms of its financial performance by almost half I think the stalker mod has more weight to its number.

>>717812046
Nope.

>>717811986

>>717811991
Do you ever feel embarrassed that you have to pretend you have people backing you up? You don't feel any kind of shame or sadness when you have to sit here and pretend you have friends? You don't see anything wrong here?

regardless of the data, the game feels a lot emptier outside of limsa. everything takes longer to queue for.

>>717812153
Not noticing any huge pop difference on Crystal or Aether whenever I pop over. Still not at Stormblood levels, where DPS queues would take half an hour or longer just for leveling dungeons.

>>717812153
it was like that in 7.0 and really noticeable in 7.3 week.

>>717811986
I think SE should be disbanded as a company and FFXIV shutdown but lets not kid ourselves. Blizzard is in such shambles Microsoft is probably debating shutting them down for good and pulling the plug. Even the most mentally ill shills for that game jumped ship to fucking Runescape of all games.

>Dumpy gets banned for spamming
>Literally within a day the same thread with the same image with the same bad faith arguments gets spammed to 500+ posts
I get why he's image dumping, this dude is literally too stupid to write a cohesive sentence. Here let me try to write a retarded dumpy post.

>Now that the dusts have settled how will square enix handle executing kate and hiroi?(Please engage with me)
>I bet if we just keep telling people that they're wrong and Dawntrail is good we can convince them.(Responds to myself)

>>717812202
>Even the most mentally ill shills for that game jumped ship to fucking Runescape of all games.
They do whatever streamers tell them to

>>717812202
I can't think of a better alternative for a desperate MMOfag nowadays. ESO?

Homestuck is fucking losing it AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>717812241
I really hate how much influence streamers have on games. Just the entire concept alone pisses me off.

>>717812202
WoW and OSRS are probably the only 2 MMOs thriving right now. The PirateSoftware drama and AssmanBald becoming mainstream with Zoomers has helped WoW out and then OSRS has been seeing a weird resurgence with its players.

>>717812224
daerrrr yur samefagging (ignore me doing it ten minutes ago)

>>717812264
They're all shit with different flavors. People trying to bandwagon Blue Protocol's chinese reboot and it will still be bullshit too. Pick whatever flavor you like most and just stick to it or experiment with others.

They keep on poaching developers from the CBU3 team no wonder FFXIV is dying.

>>717805854 (OP)
>something mustbe done for FFXIV to regain its popularity
Nigga it's a million years old already, you can't cling to it forever

>>717812285
Seriously >>717812095
You don't ever feel ashamed of yourself for acting this way? Does it ever occur to you why you might be entirely alone?

>>717805854 (OP)
just let it die at this point

>>717812280
At its absolute most optimistic for OSRS and pessimistic for FFXIV (Playerscope data from June) they're doing about the same in player counts, ~300k a day. OSRS is getting a surge because of WoW streamers pushing hard for it since they don't have anything to do right now. WoW's inscrutable as it ever has been but I keep hearing about people complaining Retail's dead and Classic versions are flagging.

I have yet to see anything negative about the new Blue Protocol game. That game might seriously poach a bunch of the remaining FFXIV players. Maplestory and Ragnarok 3 may get some others. Ive seen an odd amount of thjreads about Maplestory Classic in particular here. Seems there is quite a fondness of it from people. I dont think Square is winning many people back unless 8.0 is just some kind of mega resurgence and they completely 180 on everything they currently stand for with Dawntrail.

>>717805854 (OP)
>How can we save Square Enix
ENTER

IT'S DUMPY! DUMPY FAKED THE FRICKIN PEEPEE POOMER PLAYERSCOPE NUMBERS! HE'S CONTROLLING THE WHOLE THREAD WITH FIVE PHONES AND A LAPTOP!

>>717812375
>180 on everything they currently stand for with Dawntrail
No job reworks in 8.0 and revert to Endwalker raiding philosophy? Shit that actually would kill it completely I think.

>>717812392
true

>>717812356
retail has the usual crowd that have been playing for the last 6 years or so. no change on retail servers since the last exodus from BFA

mists classic is dead on arrival. anni servers are also slow, AQ raids are slow to fill and most people are just there leveling and preparing for the eventual TBC

>>717812320
The thing is FF14 had record preorders with Dawntrail, so the player count and potential numbers are there, but the expansion dropped the ball so absolutely hard that it's inevitably left a permanent stain and damage upon the game it may never wear off. Every time someone wants to play the MSQ people are gonna go, "Yeah uh, you have to go through ~the shit one~" worse than they did for Stormblood.
Square has really two options here: figure out an emergency measure that actually works to get the game back up to snuff, which is easier said than done because it has to prove it isn't complacent in status quo now, or they shift priorities entirely elsewhere to recoup the losses, which is a nasty blow to take because that's cutting out the source of so much revenue that the entire rest of the company is going to be feeling it for years to come.

So what is it forbidden to talk about data that doesnt smile upon ffxiv in a favorable light especially if we're talking about the financials Square just gave regarding the game? Wouldnt this be a sign for the community to be more vocal towards the dev team to turn the ship around?

>>717812285
This is my first post in the thread.
I don't care about whatever retarded argument you're currently having with whoever dumpy.
Your spam makes any actual criticism for the game look retarded.
It has the reverse effect of it's intention because you're a blathering retard fuck off.

>>717805854 (OP)
Just buy the cat, that'll fix ffxiv.

>>717812478
>Wouldnt this be a sign for the community to be more vocal towards the dev team to turn the ship around?
It would be for actual players who actually play the game and would like the game not to die, yes. The shill who has parked his dog rapist ass in this thread doesn't actually play the game, though.

>>717812506
>Your spam makes any actual criticism for the game look retarded.
I think that's the whole point of it, that he doesn't care whether his own side looks like a pack of chemically unstable peaceful protestors.

>>717812559
What's wrong with raping dogs?

>>717812578
It's gross, for one.

>>717805854 (OP)
She won.

>>717812437
fire kate and hiroi.

>>717812578
angry that homestuck has the market cornered. not enough dog rape to go around. times are tough. gotta spread the word by bringing it up every thread he gets mad in

>>717812506
He does it because it makes retards froth at the mouth. They can see the same thread five times a day and they'll still have the exact same visceral reaction every time. It's literally free trolling.

>>717812627
A lot of days I doubt it's trolling, honestly, trolls get bored of themselves or their own shtick after enough time.

>>717812572
I think he legitimately thinks he's controlling and spearheading the arguments against the game.
I don't think it's false flagging to make detractors look bad.
I think he legitimately thinks he's saving the game by being a mouthpiece as if him spamming on 4chan is gonna make Square Enix wake up because he can't spam anywhere else without getting instantly banned or assigned as that retard posting 100 images that amount to the same 2 things again.

>>717812627
It's not trolling these people are delusional and unhinged.

>>717812672
I mean, there's just some people who are so mentally fucked that they make it their life mission to rant and ramble about the same shit for years on end. Just look at Bazztek/Barry from the FF15 threads and everything he considered a competitor to it, including other SE games. That shit was 2016, he's still batting for it to this year- just more subtly or less frequently, far as I know.

>>717812806
Barry died in a knife standoff with Australian police in 2023.

>>717812806
>Bazzy
Funny enough I think XIV has their own Bazzy now given these threads this past year. Anything that even seems like youre disparaging this game brings out that one idiot.

>>717805854 (OP)
Jump ship
https://screenrant.com/best-ffxiv-alternative-games/

>>717812771
Ehhh I don't think saving the game is involved with it, all the people that talk nearly identically to him on Twitter (your volkeroathsworns, your elvenresurgences, the assuredly many others) are WoW shills by convenience or part of the larger "anti-woke" crowd that trends towards individual members developing insane hyperfixations on specific topics usually related to games or anime. I do think pretending to want the game to improve is part of it, but that's EVERY MMO troll's modus operandi since MUD days, it's stuff every pudgy pre-teen figures out on their own, day one.

>>717812868

>>717809749
And what's the alternative? Sandbox where you have guides two weeks in how to ignore 80% of the world? Koreans haven't figured shit it's the nation of the most wastes potential in terms of assets.

None of you are thinking what's ahead. It's grim.
>Ascians are officially back
>Primals are officially back but now can be "concepts" instead of belief based
>Calyx is going to use Ascian summoning to pester you for the foreseeable future
It's going to be Monster of the Week with Calyx twirling his mustache until the Ascians get bored of his antics and throw him into gay baby jail.

If i wanted schizo boogeyman i'd stuck to the yugioh generals and watch the british shit up the thread. Can we discuss the game?

>>717812932
I mean he dumps 100 images that amount to
>FFXIV doesn't put money back into the game that it makes
and
>Kate and Hiroi have made the story bad and people don't like it

It's people obsessed with the game that are upset it's not doing so well. They have stake and the stake is shit about the game they don't like so they're going to spam it because clearly those are the only issues with the game and why people are quitting.
It's why you'll see him also endlessly argue and create bad faith arguments when you mention more money won't actually help with development because they don't have people in the world they can hire that know how to operate their 20 year old infrastructure.

>>717813173
worth mentioning he's been obsessed with kate since shadowbringers-endwalker

>>717806318
You coming in hot for that Big Black Roegadyn cock, Cocoli?

>>717811986
Kino...

>>717813168
I like Calyx and I'm glad Ascians and primals are back. Primals are kino and there's endless potential there. If the villains are actually going to be inventing concepts to summon instead of relying on preexisting mythology then we can get more interesting primals like Eureka, which is cool.
>but now can be "concepts" instead of belief based
Zodiark and Hydaelyn were also primals summoned based on a concept, so it's not new.

Hot take, but Dawntrail was always good. The only ones who disagree are the people obsessed with hating a trans VA

Where are the Big Black Roegadyn boys ITT?

>>717813272
Huh? Zodiark and Hydaelyn were absolutely belief based.

>>717813231
Looks like he was right to be, given the state of things.

>>717813168
i still dunno what the thought process here is.
>throw in a shard hopping civilization that eats other worlds for aether to feed their data ghosts energy
>sci-fi upset, the game could theoretically change forever if the tech remains tied to our main world in any major capacity
>the end of the main story and its expansion patches doesn't resolve this conundrum whatsoever
>instead we're back to playing tiddlywinks with ascians like they still fucking matter as major villains somehow, and the pre-planning of patch shit means either this was supposed to be someone else as an "ooh, bigger bad all along" pile of bullshit and they emergency changed it, or they outright were just using this as a filler episode with no long term meaning besides the dimensional key to go back to status quo anyway
>right as the game is being forced to realize they can't status quo it anymore

>>717813330
Both were made with "deity" concepts, Hydaelyn was made with Zodiark's concept stolen and modified

>>717813330
Nope, EE3 describes the whole process. Lahabrea designed the Zodiark concept from the ground up based on the summoning of Quetzalcoatl. Actually in EW itself it talks about how Fandaniel has to be allowed to be part of the Convocation so he can contribute necessary knowledge about dynamis and aetherial currents to the Zodiark concept. Hydaelyn was a modified Zodiark concept after Venat and the Twelve raided the Bureau of the Architect and stole the concept crystal.

>>717813338
Under no circumstances do I, in fact, have to give it to dumpy

>>717813286
>The quality control is so low they had to go back and re-dub characters because their microphones were fucked
I disagree. I think the quality control and effort/writing was so phoned in which is why you have shit like
>Speak to Zero
>Speak to Wuk Lamat
as 100+ quest objectives with pages of dialogue that amount to simple concepts.

>>717810393
Watching this bitch having a meltie is honestly very funny.

>>717813384
Electrope is a shitty miracle material (dependent on lightning in enormous quantities) and Allag excavation and Garlemald already proliferated computers through a lot of the world, I don't think Solution Nine is all that upsetting.

>>717813497
>(dependent on lightning in enormous quantities
You know the FFXI raid got updated a few days ago right?

We could have had Ultimanians but Hiroi just had to drag us back to Shardslop and Ascians after making a big stinky about how we're DONE with all that noise.

>>717813330
Did you pay attention at all during any of the cutscenes in Elpis or did you memory wipe them?

>>717813573
what changed about electrope's specific energy reqs

>>717805887
The funny thing is that they made anither OP yesterday with the same spelling mistake (XVI).
If it isn't a bot, I guess he doesn't care to check his copy pasta.

>>717813634
There's no vast suffusion of lightning energy in Mamook nor in the Interdimensional Rift where Sareel Ja is summoning huge electrope landscapes. Electrope converts lightning aether into other types of aether with the use of arcanima, that's all. You just have some weird fantasy where it can't function outside the dome.

>>717813590
they're going to make shadowbringers again
they're going to fucking do it

>get a pot from the fate
>see someone fighting something
>go help them
>my pot gets nuked by the monster
I'm never helping anyone in this piece of shit place ever again.

>>717805854 (OP)
Why do you pretend to care about this?

>>717806373

7.0 was a 4, maybe a 3
7.1 was a 2/10
7.2 was a 6/10, god bless whoever decided wuk needed to be sidelined every scene
7.3 was a 4/10

>>717813764

>>717813384
Solution 9 remaining on the Source will just be used to justify adding more modernslop clothing.

>>717813852
WE LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!!

>>717813573
>>717813707
I would assume he's using already energized electrope or it doesn't matter where he's getting the energy for the purposes of storytelling if the raid doesn't specify what he's doing to it beyond the actual programming. Electrope ONLY intaking lightning was well established and not visibly contradicted by the new raid.
>You just have some weird fantasy where it can't function outside the dome.
Nobody said that, don't bat at shadows. It's not gonna proliferate to the rest of the world because it's only useful when you can easily energize it and only with the accompanying high complexity arcanima. The latter's attainable for Eorzea already but the former means it's not gonna spread meaningfully from Alexandria, plus Alexandria will eventually have to move off as their surroundings' aether normalizes away from lightning over time.

>>717813980
Eorzeans can cast Thunder too. (And Thunder II)

>>717813231
A broken clock is right 2x a day.
It's also why you don't see him engaging with modernslop arguments if he was actually a troll that didn't give a fuck about the game and was just shitting on it for fun.
It's not part of the things about the game he doesn't like.

>>717814053
But a few days ago he said dumpy complained about modernslop all the time.

>>717814021
Kinda defeats the point of it being a miracle material if I have to energize it by hand. Why wouldn't I cast Water, Fire, Blizzard, Stone or Aero for the element I actually want and save a converting step?

>>717805854 (OP)
Square Enix was never good.

>>717809071
Look in the mirror at some point in your sorry ass life.

This is an actual official ad for Tree of Savior

>>717814078
idk maybe I missed it but the image dump mostly seemed to be doomposting involving hating Kate/Hiroi and them losing money spending it on other shit.

>>717814120
TRVTHNVKE

>>717814120
dead on arrival if it's announcing itself as Other MMO Killer

>Flawless deep combat
>Great characters
>Great story
>Great art direction
>Great OST
>Waifus
>Good graphics
>Lots of content
>Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends
This is a 10/10 game

>>717814176
The beach intermission was fucking terrible. Completely ruined the pacing of the game.

>>717814137
Yeah, it is, but the "dumpy" that other anon is talking about is just what he calls everyone who says anything he doesn't like. Specifically, he's talking about me who was calling out the problems with Kate 4 or 5 years ago while he was busy white knighting her.

>>717814137
folder dumps with kate, yoshida and hiroi focus never run at the same time as somebody flooding a thread with artbook pages and are often broken up in posting frequency whenever there's a samey argument about modern glamour styles

>>717814103
Electrope quickly and easily converts one type of aether into several other types of aether, potentially even several types at once, and does it automatically through the arcanima inscribed on it. It also enables technologies Eorzeans haven't even conceived of. Solution 9 has online shopping. And with a simple import of electrope PCs, Eorzea can have online shopping too with the cost of a regular supply of lightning crystals.

>Dawntrail Defender is still trying to convince people that literally all Negativity is coming from one schizophrenic boogieman
>Now he's trying to argue that all complaints about Kste and even Hiroi are from said boogieman

Who is he trying to fool at this point? Genuinely what does he gain from this 24/7 damage control for Dawntrail? He doesn't even play the game. Next he'll tell you all these negative reviews are from Dumpy too.

>>717814206
I saw Tifa in a bikini therefore it was kino

>>717814286
what a dumb material to add
at least ceruleum is basically oil not literally miracle matter

>>717813497
they already walked back on electrope kek.

>>717814137
Note the "Dawntrail Defender" hissyfit starting up and the typing style matching the fellow telling you he's bitched about Kate for a half decade

>>717814120
NEO is your average ass template mobile game but Kim, the actual creator of ToS, sold out and gave them a license and helped advertising it. It has basically nothing with ToS in common.

>>717814339
Based

>>717814287
i can feel the sassy hip cock, tight t-shirt and limp wrist wafting from this post

Here comes the spam about trancers.

>>717814645
any other failed predictions

Honestly every thread on /v/ should have ids so the sycophants and the trancers can be identified.

>>717814775
Haindariel Sunseeker and techopes would just borrow the botnet from Titanmen and share it with the zeplacord.

Im convinced the dude making these threads is the same person complaining about the spam to just bring down the XIV thread experience.

THE OFFICIAL LIST OF XIV BOOGEYMEN
>Barry
>Foxxo
>Aveyonddreams
>Rulakir
>Ava Ashley
>XIfag
>Bozjafag
>Content hater
>Jeremy
>/mmog/ man
>BLUboy
>Homestuck
>Macchi
>WoWjanny
>HunkyGladiator
>Awesomejr
>Skiros
>Titanmen
>Pablo
>Sera
>Lauront
>Koros
>Atelier-Bagur
>Stormpeaks
>Roland
>Dathric
>Mysteryschizo
>Gankeranon
>Megagamer
>/gig/ cuckfag
>2chan reject
>Desolance
>/fit/ gyno whinger
>Archiveschizo
>lalacord
>FFVfag
>Scion lover
>palworld schizo
>Jizzda
>Little buddy
>Disconnected66
>Katedefender
>Jhazda
>Finalsolution9
>Sena
>Folder-man
>Yzilma
>Grummz
>LeratoNull
>The Vaugeposter
>The WoW Cabal
>The Hornswaggler
>Jannon/Jaki Rehw-nong
>Haindariel Sunseeker
>Venat schizo
>Zepla
>The Zeplacord
>Callistis
>Freddy_XIV
>Wild Freaks
>Bad Faith Anon
>Shazamtroons
>Problem Child
>The Raped
>Emily Tiel
>Boogeyman List Dude
>Folder Dumper
>Volker Oathsworn
>Leto
>Techopse

>>717814903
It's not even an XIV thread going by OP, it's a cry about Squeenix shareholdings thread

>>717814934
It's been incredible watching this list grow.

>>717814934
Wow I didn't know Zepla and Grummz posted here.
Do you guys also think my hero asmongold posts here?

I stopped at the end of shadowbringers.
I have zero intentions of ever catching up.
And yes partially because of the gay cat

>>717815031
Probably, he's admitted to ctrl+f'ing himself on a daily basis on /v/ and /pol/

>>717814934
This shit is missing so many

>>717815024
Honestly it's funny seeing it start at 2023. I remember trying to use the general in Heavensward in like 2016 and just leaving because it was the most deranged shit.
Niggers were flaming me for having a Gordias raid weapon.

>>717815360
Yeah the general has always been psychotic. We had a few years here that were very nice, but everything has become increasingly unhinged since EW and gets worse by the day.

>>717805854 (OP)
expel all americans out of japanese bussiness , done.

>>717814934
all me

GYATT!!!!!!

>>717806373
I miss Zenos so much it’s unreal

Queue up Frontline

>>717815814
What the fuck did your dog just do?

>>717811986
If even fucking blizzard can do it why can't Square

>>717815642
is this second life?

>>717814287
>Posting the DLC on steam
>Posting the review bombed DLC on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1592500/FINAL_FANTASY_XIV_Endwalker/?curator_clanid=4777282
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1016870/FINAL_FANTASY_XIV_Shadowbringers/?curator_clanid=4777282
>Posting the review bombed DLC on steam where half the reviews are DONT BUY THIS ON STEAM!!!

>>717815972
That's Final Fantasy XIV - Dawntrail

>>717816012
Hmm getting major second life vibes though, anon.

>>717816076
You think so?

I've been seeing quite a few YouTubers and comments saying the game is "dying" and irreversible damage has been done. And it all feels like overreacting?
Most are citing recent revenue and player count drops as a sign, but realistically - the lockdowns, the WoW exodus, the Endwalker story all came at a time where player count would obviously be at its peak, and that'd be hard to replicate.
Now, I am not an end-game player, and haven't reached DT yet, although I've heard it's not the best expansion. But some people are asking for "major changes", otherwise the game would fail? What is the game really lacking for people to say that? What features do people expect the devs to add/update to please that portion of the player base?

>>717813259
New deep dungeon will mog this btw

>>717816163

im just coming in here to say that i love ff12

>>717813259
Makes me miss Bozja duels, did they say why OC has none?

>>717816220
Truuuuuuue

>>717815974
What, how is review bombing this real, you need to pay 40 bucks

>>717816241
Duels budget went into cosmic exploration vehicle fates

>>717816390
If too many people are unhappy it's a reviewbomb, chud. We will not put up with your financial terrorism.

>>717816430
>>717816390
>SHB the highest the games ever been
>800 steam reviews
>Endwalker the 2nd highest the games ever been
>1400 reviews
>DT the apparently lowest the games ever been
>Approaching 5k reviews somehow despite it being the lowest point(apparently)
Why are you responding to yourself?
It's a public call to review bomb a game over muh politics by WoW tards who bought the expansion. Half the reviews are just "Wuk Lamat"[THUMBS DOWN]

>>717816194
Go back

>>717806373
I'm not touching anything 7.x i will even fucking buy a scroll to skip this trash fire i don't want to hear for even 1 more second wuk and sphene. EVER.

>>717816390
>4 people(alt accounts) found this review helpful
>0.0 hours on record
Deranged schizos waste money more news at 11.

>>717816647
>It's a public call to review bomb a game over muh politics
Well you're right, just not in the direction you're claiming. There was a twitterfag who organized a mass positive review bomb because they blamed muh transphobic chuds for the low score. Don't make me go dig in the archives for it, you coping retard.

>>717816847
It's something when DLC has more reviews than the fucking game.

>>717816876
You calling it "DLC" is all the proof I need that you don't actually play this game, or MMOs at all, and are some twitterfag sent here on a fucking mission or something. Nobody calls it DLC. That's not the term used for it. Kill yourself.

Wuk Lamanvoice
Dawntranny

>>717805854 (OP)
Square Enix have had a whole generation to save themselves by focusing more on Nintendo hardware but refused to do so, their current financial difficulties are their fault and their fault alone, maybe Sony will buy them, that will fix things for them.

>>717816816
Brother, it's a DLC, you can't get playtime on it

>>717816930
It's labeled that way on steam, fuck off semantic retard. Do you also want to argue about how it's not a game it's an MMORPG

>>717817001
Nigga they just announced Elliot and Octopath 0 in Nintendo direct and they are porting 7 remake on switch, unless you are some fanboy who wants them to remove PC, Xbox and ps versions of anything they do

>>717817008
>It's labeled that way on steam
Yeah, which is why you're calling it that. Because you don't actually know the term the developers and players actually use for it. Go do your research and try again tomorrow, you dumb fucking shill.

>>717817054
So yes, you do want to argue about how it's not a game it's an MMORPG. Kill yourself promptly.

>>717816816
You cannot be this retarded can you?

>>717817107
Shouldn't you be asking your boss for a revised script, shill? Prove you play the game right now. Post number in your chatbox with /playtime.

>.4 kuja?
>.5 finally spill the cum chalice

>>717817001
Like bravely default remaster and the adventures of elliot?

HELLO FELLOW SAARS OF LIGHT ARE WE BE ENJOYING THE LATEST DLC THE DAWNTRAIL

>>717816647
I dont bother reviewing a game I've played unless it pissed me off

I give up on trying to seriously focus on progging old stuff first before doing current stuff so I'll just jump ahead for now and finally catch up. Never been "in the present" aside from doing expert roulettes here and there for some tomes etc. while throwing in some EX trials with my FC though (and that was in EW, wasn't even caught up to patch MSQ in DT till 7.3), so how does it work if I want to be a fully fledged raidtranny by 7.4?

>>717817306
>so how does it work if I want to be a fully fledged raidtranny by 7.4?
When 7.4 comes out you'll want to get a high quality set of the new crafted gear and run whatever extreme trial comes out for a weapon. Then you'll be raid ready. Other than that, just try to PF some recent stuff so you get an idea of how fast mechanics have become.

I give up on trying to seriously focus on progging old stuff first before doing current stuff so I'll just jump ahead for now and finally catch up. Never been "in the present" aside from doing expert roulettes here and there for some tomes etc. while throwing in some EX trials with my FC though (and that was in EW, wasn't even caught up to patch MSQ in DT till 7.3), so how does it work if I want to be a fully fledged raidtranny by 7.4? What do I need to do/grind/work on?

>>717805854 (OP)
Ff14 is too old, they need a new mmo

>>717816647
>>Approaching 5k reviews somehow despite it being the lowest point(apparently)
You do understand that in most situations happy communities tend to not feel compelled to leave a happy review because they rather engage with the game while people who are unhappy are more likely to leave reviews because they cant be bothered to fully engage with the game anymore right? Unhappy people by default are more vocal.

>>717817379
>>717817374
Oh and also you don't need a complete full set of the crafted gear, you can get pieces from the normal mode raids too.

>>717817379
Worn on crafters or saving gil to buy crafted gear on patch and at least overmeld the big materia.
Then just join learning PFs and have them link you strats it's pretty easy.

I would laugh myself to death if, at 7.4 or even better at 7.5, the screen suddenly went dark and then Wuk Lamat reappeared in the next frame and said, ‘I'm coming with you.’ I could imagine a few people smashing their monitors then.

>>717817416
This is applied to everything, lately I have been noticing haters spend too much time giving fake feedback while the average person doesn't take things so seriously and just play and enjoy

>>717817451
I would actually quit after 15 years of this game.

>>717817451
this wont happen. i would smash my monitor though if we went back to eorzea slop and not merycydia

>>717817456
>Fake feedback

I just DT had been a fun holiday with Krile and Estinien looking for the golden city on a savage mysterious continent.

>>717817529
Ah yes "Wuk Lamat" is very good and real feedback.

>>717817536
I wonder how the Westwolves timeline is doing...

>>717817507
What can we even still do in Eorzea? Unless we do some subterranean expac we've seen it all, haven't we?

>>717814934
>>717815024
Ava Ashley is real tho.

>>717817565
Those fuckers have blitzball too... it's not fair.

>>717817562
Duh, do you call that feedback

>>717805854 (OP)
Isn't it about time they made a new mmorpg?

>>717817507
If I were Daichi Hiori or Kate Cwynar, I would really wait until Patch 7.5 or 7.55 to bring Wuk Lamat back after Sena was asked not to say anything. The reactions would be hilarious.

>>717817570
>Paglth'an (real zone and not a shitty dungeon)
>the Red Labyrinth
>northern Vylbrand
>Turtle Rock
>south Silvertear
>the Orn Wild
>West Shroud
>Coerthas Lowlands
>the forest floor underneath the Sylphlands (which is a canopy of dirt in the trees)
>undersea Sahagin city
>Xelphatol (real zone and not a shitty dungeon)
>Hellsguard homeland in Abalathia's Spine
>Mazlaya
>the Pearl
There's plenty left in Eorzea.

>>717817149
So do you still want to argue about retarded semantic shit that doesn't matter?
Post yours.

>>717806373

>>717817661
FF17 should be normally a new mmo

>>717817726
>5am
:skull: go to sleep lil bro

>>717817726
It's not semantic shit that doesn't matter, it shows that you don't even know basic terminology associated with the game, or even the genre.

>>717817053
>>717817186
All of those games combined are a fraction of the resources both monetary and talent wise that Square Enix put into Playstation only titles, it isn't even remotely comparable to the resources Square Enix even put into Xbox. Square Enix should be making a pivot towards Nintendo, instead they give them their scraps, these scraps have been consistently successful, nearly a whole decade of consistent success on Nintendo hardware yet investment fails to go beyond these micro projects.

>>717805854 (OP)
You can save it by playing other games and not going back, either they'll do something about their sinking ship or just let it die and make a new game. Either way, it's better than being a cuck.

>>717815661
I hated zenos before the end of endwalker, now I just wish he'd come back.

>>717817796
>Using /echo
It's semantics that don't matter. You know what I'm talking about when I refer to it.

>>717817456
>fake feedback
10/10 ragebait

>>717806373
7.0
>Speak to Wuk Lamat (1/10)
7.1
>Wuk Lamat (3/10)
7.2
>actually it was fine (6/10)
7.3
>not subbed anymore

>>717817796
Can we stop pretending like it matters now

>>717817726
>>717817796
>both EST
Oh this nigga is SAMEFAGGING

>>717817726
>>717817796
>prime EU hours, expect to be talking to EU bros
>it's all just sleepless NA anons

>>717817726
>>717817796
You guys should be friends, add each other on discord

>>717817862
>I-I-IT'S /ECHO.....!
You lost. Kill yourself.
>>717817928
I'm a night owl.

>>717817881
>7.3
>lots of quest bubbles under wuk lamat
>no prompt to speak to wuk lamat
kek
>2nd to last quest or something i dont know
>SPEAK TO WUK LAMAT
hahahahahha

>>717817964
>A Terminal Invitation

>>717817881
7.1 was so shit over zoralja, koana, erenville, otis. I hated it so much.

>>717817928
barely anyone plays on EU anymore, they either quit or moved to NA where all the modbeasting erp is.

I dont even remember what the fuck happened in 7.1, I assume literally fucking nothing

>>717818014
the Koana Arc was so fucking dumb he was reduced to a "I LOVE THESE BISONS" Guy and i bet it was made so that Wuk Lamat could shine brighter

>>717818040
>lil nigga mooj listens to a recording of his parents fucking and his dad learning that fucking creates babies
>koana leaps into the path of a dinosaur to shoot a sniper rifle point blank so he can save a cow

>>717818040
We find out Zoraal Ja was raped by his co-worker and Koana falls in love with a buffalo and nearly dies, did you rike it?

>>717818040
zoral ja is a retard
koana is a retard
please stop the loud trains

>>717818032
my world travels do lend some credence to your statement but mine at least still seems decently lively
it's the krautfag server
it's also been overrun with modbeasting

>>717818032
according to the latest Lucky Bancho EU has only 167.252 Characters that where active and you can trust these Numbers because almost no new Sprouts did i saw until my sub has ended

>>717817954
>You lost. Kill yourself.
>Raging out over playtime
What the dick waving contest? I still have more playtime than you scattered across alts. Of course it's echo it's just to win a dick waving contest over semantic retard shit. It's almost like I play the game and know the systems.
Post your steam play time. I wanna see the 4000 hrs.

Lmaoo EU PvP ranks glitched, Yoshida fix your game

When was the last, normal, non-remake non-MMO Final Fantasy released? I don’t even know which one we’re on. 15? Final fantasies used to get released all the time but I think it’s been years since the last normal one. How

>>717818130
yeah im german and i played on Shiva
Its true that the modbeasting community on Shiva is so fucking huge and if you dont use Mare you will be viewed as a outsider

>>717818190
>Raging out over playtime
No I told him to kill himself because I gave him my playtime as requested and he tried to cope and say it was fake. He lost and he should kill himself.
>Post your steam play time. I wanna see the 4000 hrs.
I don't play on steam.

>>717818197
"Glitched"

>>717818197
>actual ranks when all the plugin users get banwaved

>>717818204
Two years ago, but I don't blame you for forgetting. I wish I could forget.

>>717818263
That's still me btw it's an alt.

>I don't play on steam.
Of course you don't, you lie on the internet for fake anonymous clout because you're more mentally ill than me.

>>717818318
I thought someone shopped an SS symbol for a moment

>>717818230
Indeed. I've been wanting to just find some chill German FC for the last few years since I am krautland based at the end of the day but I don't care for mods and clubbing at all, at this point I'm kinda considering returning to some English FC if not riding solo.

>>717818350
>Of course you don't, you lie on the internet for fake anonymous clout
What the fuck are you even trying to say here, nigger? Do you think FFXIV is only playable on steam? My account predates availability on steam.

>>717818392
So now you're going to lie about being a legacy player. Very cool.

>They're still going at it

Holy FUCK these threads are boring

>>717818417
I am a legacy player, but I wouldn't need to be to predate the steam client. Even ARR wasn't immediately available on steam. Kill yourself.

>>717818486
Oh you're the guy who bought his account.
Try posting a screenshot before Stormblood next time lmao.

>>717818534
I posted a beta screenshot before LMAO. Cope yourself into the grave, mentally ill freak.

>>717818204
16 was a massive flop so we probably won't get 17 for a long time.

>>717818476
It's a coordinate effort to fuck up these threads. One spams a folder, the other responda and they loop over and over every xiv thread. Did you not notice they both live in the EST timezone thanks to their screenshots? Have you noticed how every thread now a days is one guy bringing up the other over and over?

>>717818476
The funniest part is this isn't even the first time they do the whole "post playtime" "look I'm a legacyfag" thing. I swear this happens every 2-3 days.

>>717818578
You're the one sitting here coping arguing about what to call DLC and trying to engage people in dick waving contests because you bought an account.
Gotta get the full use out of those neetbux.

>>717814176
Censorship and bad writing ruined it.

>>717818476
What's the problem? That's the case with WoW too, which is also being beaten to death until the end.