Thread 717806219

how's your game going?

this game has all negative reviews on steam lol

I've been in the "I'll start tomorrow" phase for about five years. It's not happening

Why brag about making your own engine if you just made a minecraft clone?

>>717806483
Most AAA devs can't even do that

>>717806587
But most do, the minority are the ones using a pre-made engine

>>717806219 (OP)
What is this? Is he remaking Cube World or something?

>>717806520
So what's this game supposed to be about?

>>717806710
Little voxel RPG with a procedurally generated world and dungeons. Could customize the look of your weapons, tame enemies to be mounts and pets and shit, had a multiplayer option so you could hop in a server or play with friends
That kind of description wasn't as eye rolling back then as it might be now, was fun enough.

>>717806705
He's been making "Cube World Omega" for the past two years which is based more on the original with a lot more content as opposed to that fucked up second version with the zones deleveling your gear.

>>717806426
Why not start?

I'm feeling rather passionless about the time limit survive the apocalypse game so I'm just grinding 3d for now

>>717807013
Isn't that literally Minecraft?

>>717808753
That's what people kind of compared it to at the time, but it's not really the same thing at all. It's not survival, you're not building. More of an infinite RPG

>>717806219 (OP)
I have 90% of the story written in stone.
Currently tweaking the gameplay so it is more interesting and actually fun to play.
Working on the graphics so it looks better (at the very least more memorable).
Already have many melodies for the game in my head, and will learn to make my own music before the end of the year.
So far so good.

>>717807217
I'll start tomorrow.

There's a lot of different ideas I want to work on but it almost all gets stifled the moment I realize I need to get my life back together but then that doesn't happen and so in essence I'm incredibly poor at priorities.
For the project with the most progress, I have some art and some background writing done and that's basically it. Even now I'm struggling to finish this post because I keep thinking of other things to do.

>>717806426
Me but my video game history book.

MODELING HAIR IS HARD AAAAAAA I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT

>>717806520
he could save his game by releasing the alpha code and letting the community finish it

>>717806641
That's just not true.
It may have been true in the early 2000's but now even the biggest studios are moving to Unreal.

I'm about 5 years in and it's coming along well. It started as just some world building practice for work and has turned into a full on game. I'm hoping to release 1.0 on Steam by the end of the year but for now I have a Patreon with some traction where I upload new builds monthly. Thanks for asking!

>>717810047
anon i was in your place and it doesn't get better, not even after actually fixing your life
in fact is harder after the fact

just go all in on whatever you want to create, consequences be damned

>>717806219 (OP)
never going to make it. i had an idea for one though.

since people seem to like staring at cameras for supernatural shit, i thought about doing it for a casino to spot cheating. however, i think that such a game is still dull as fuck, so i thought about really adding in casino management and development to it as well. design and decorate the floor, maybe manage employees and business deals, and let you walk around the game floor to check on cheating close up (but maybe cheaters hold back when you're out in person!).

>>717810116
hey go do that i'd read it

>>717810047
try adderall

>>717809237
why not now? you don't have to make the entire game today.

I want to make a 2D top-down shipping sim game. Simple pixel graphics, no cal-arts vibe drawing shit just simple and functional graphics. Ability to render an entire planet Rimworld-style and populate it with ports, big and small, with different demands such as industry, transport, mail delivery, etc.

You start a company in a port with a small ship. You then have to make money by doing shipping work or setting up your own trade routes. Ability to manually control the ship, or automate the route. Buy bigger ships, buy more ships, grow your company, take on bigger contracts, perhaps even build your own industries and supply them with materials from elsewhere.

I only know how to program PLC's tho, and can't draw worth shit.

>>717817737
youre probably experienced enough to write 90% of the code you'd need. Art will be your biggest hurdle.
Use placeholder art for a placeholder. Develop your vision for the art as you go until you've got your prototype built. Then commit and hire an artist or move on to your next idea

>>717818076
I have experience with Ladder and Structured Text, hardly translates to gamedev.

>>717806219 (OP)
>he is still remaking the whole game again
mental illness

>>717806219 (OP)
>all that work
>still ended up with TAA
KWAB

>>717817370
He said tomorrow. Get off his back goddamn

>>717806219 (OP)
>made his own vulkan shit
Hey thats fucking good nice going ma-

>TAA
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT RETARD KILL YOURSELF

>>717806219 (OP)
Wollay is a scam artist

>>717807151
what the fuck
>grift your fans by showing them an amazing (for the time) proof of concept that actually looked like a cool addition to the game space in the era of survival open worlds
>game has destructible terrain and things like boss procedural attributes and shit, stuff to make you think it has some promise
>fans beg for a demo
>keep them on read for 2-5 years
>release a PAID demo
>fans realise the demo is actually shit and is nothing even close to what was shown off in the concept, leading people to accuse you of fabricating screenshots that dont actually exist in game
>claim thats YOUR in dev build and the demo is just a slice of that
>"okay, then release an updated demo"
>leave them on read for another 3-5 years
>eventually it gets so bad sloptubers cover you
>youre forced to end the grift and sell the game
>the game is literally shite on shite and has nothing to do with the concept pics you spoon fed all these years.
>"hey guys dont worry, im working on NEW cube world that is actually the OLD cube world, stay tuned!"
>5 years later...

jesus fuck, its like that Slurm joke from futurama, but real, and worse. "we'll release NEW slurm, and when everyone hates it, we will release slurm CLASSIC, and charge a premium for it"
I think this bastard tops redamz for scam games.

>>717814340
sell us on your game, anon

The irony is, he took so long to make this game even if cube world omega or whatever comes out, and is 1:1 what he advertised the OG cube world to have been, its too late.
Games have evolved, the scene has changed, whats 'in' has changed.
Back then, Minecraft was the hottest game and everyone wanted big, open, customisable worlds to explore after over a decade of closed, small, linear games. This game looked like the next step in those kinds of games

These days people are fed up with openworldslop and lazy engine-generated worlds, and want more hand crafted, linear, time-respecting games that dont waste your time with boring vapid empty land to walk over.

could have been the next minecraft.
is now going to be a meme and dead within a month. Kek at all those youtubers who pre-emptively made their accounts and names based off of this game hoping to capitalise on "minecraft 2.0"

>>717818790
I think he's a good dev but a really bad business man. It is rare to be both.

>>717819389
He's not a good dev, the man has thrown all his work out more than three times.
Look, I also thought that Cube World had potential back in the beginning and gave him money.
Face reality already.

>>717806219 (OP)
>Data-driven rendering
>preallocated arenas, no runtime heap
>cascaded shadow maps
>temporal AA
>all things UE and even Unity offer, for free, if one bothers to LOOK at the fucking settings
kek

>cube world
i haven't heard about that game in ages

>>717819747
>if one bothers to LOOK at the fucking settings
And when you do
>beta feature
>deprecated feature with no clear replacement
>half-assed feature because the main dev left
You won't fool me Mr Unity.

>>717818921
It's a FPS open world adventure through a future city where society as been influence by vaporwave aesthetics, excessive wealth, and psychedelics. There is an oppressive ai syndicate which is both the source of the oppulence but also the source of the oppression. You fight against these agents along your journey helping the citizens take back parts of the city for humanity. You aren't just a force for good however and there are opportunities to help the shadier characters for capital gain.

I just finished building a questing and dialogue system so populating the world with stories and quests is happening right now and I'm really excited about it, in the past couple days I've already added 5 new characters with their own back stories and missions. The main story line is written and will begin to be implemented once I've gotten used to programming the smaller side quests.

This was a project I started after my best friend died during the pandemic and I wanted to create a pure form of escapism for myself, this then evolved into something I wanted to share with the world.

You can check out a trailer here, but it's about 6 months old so just about everything has improved since then including the gameplay, world, and framerate. But it gives you a good idea of the look and feel:
https://youtu.be/nuou_BGcs44?si=Ni05E4GEnPZn0cPR


If you like what you see and want to support and follow the journey you can follow on patreon or subscribe to get access to the alpha builds each month, I have a big update coming this week:
https://www.patreon.com/c/vaporpunk

>>717818886
>like that Slurm joke from futurama
Fyi the joke is that's what cocacola did irl

>>717806219 (OP)
Dragged into the endless pit of wagie despair. It's 6AM and I'm at work. At least I have a computer that I can use to browse 4chan.

>>717806219 (OP)
In my head my idea for a videogame sounds amazing but I know if I brought it to reality it would actually be retarded, so I will never start it.

>>717818921
>>717820108
Shoot meant to an image with that

>>717806426
don't worry about it, even after starting you can still fail, I started like 3 times.
The only advice I can give is, never listen to any of those fags telling you how to do X better or do Y yourself. Your only goal should be to make a prototype as fast as possible. Write the shittiest code with stolen assets in Gamemaker if you have to.
Nobody made a game using Haskell.

>>717807151
Well.. I learned my lesson years ago,
never hype anything, ever.
If it's going to be a new game or paid even to old customers, I will likely never even see it, but on the off chance he actually wants to redeem himself and offer it "for free" to anyone who bought the original, then I will give it a try, sure.

What's the worst that could happen? there's no way it could be anything but better than what we got with Cube World release
I do hope he's actually doing it
I don't mind if it takes him 5 more years, as before, I still have to question where Wollay's priorities lie.

He's practically spent a good 20% of his life on this, but of course we all know he hasn't actually been working on it, just occasional tinkering whenever he feels like it.

>>717818921
Here's a cool progress shot from 2021 to 2025

>>717820141
How do we go from Futurama with Ratchet and Clank, to rick and morty with nuRatchet and Clank?

>>717820108
>You aren't just a force for good however and there are opportunities to help the shadier characters for capital gain.
sounds kino, this is the kind of effort AAA just doesnt go to anymore.

>>717806219 (OP)
my ssbbw shooter idea proved a bit more difficult to implement than initially thought. I am literally sailing in uncharted waters. The rigging and weight painting techniques have not been invented yet.

>>717820108
Game looks aesthetically accomplished and successful in creating the visages it was going for, but the 10 seconds or so of actual gameplay in the trailer look rather plain. After 5 years of devtime you definitely have something more interesting to show than a couple of enemy guys who stand in place and shoot bullets in player's direction.

>>717806219 (OP)
>TAA
he did all that and it's garbage anyway lmao. Might as well use unreal at this point. What a retard

>>717820852
Soul
vs
Soulless

>>717808753
It was different, more RPG:esque,
it had classes, branching class paths, some form of "skill trees", cities, gliding (before Zelda and Genshin made it "normal")
it also had a little soulful character creator and race selection - for all it looked like it could become, it was the precursor Hytale (which is ironic, since Hytale too ended up being pretty much a never-ending project scam on it's funders

Oh look it's wolfram von fuck
Posts some things once in a blue moon and then he is gone
Fucking kraut scammer
I am mad because if it wasn't for his retardation and kikery Cube World would've been great

>>717820953
For the first 4.5 years I was literally only building the city. In the last 6 months the gameplay has come a long way though with more movement options and ai improvements. You are correct though, I'm more of an artist than a programmer so I've recently starting working with a programmer to work on the actual gameplay with me.

>>717820980
?
Why would you say something so retarded to an actual dev here, whos actually making a game? What is he supposed to do with that comment?

its not even soulless,
Concept
vs
Progressed Concept

>>717806219 (OP)
>TAA

>>717821092
Bit weird approach, but you yourself said it was a worldbuilding exercise first, so good luck with the game.

>>717821097
lol thank you

One thing I've had to come to terms with is that gamers are the hardest audience to please so I'm just going to make my art and if it doesn't resonate with everyone that's fine.

That said I thought the comment was pretty funny
>blank canvas = soul
>painted canvas = soulless

>>717806520
this is one of the most iconic /v/ screencaps for me

>>717821364
For sure, I know most people start with the gameplay first and then build the world around it and I'm doing the opposite lol

Thank you.

>>717806219 (OP)
I'll never forgive this guy for having the most braindead retarded game design ideas of all time. Ah yes I want to play a open world RPG... just to have all my progress removed once I enter a different area/biome. Amazing idea! This dude deserves every shitstorm he got and more.

>>717820947
real time soft body physics have gotten really good recently you should give it a shot

>>717821378
based dev, ive always had some ideas for games in my head that id never make, that I always wished that if one day I was in the position to make them id stick to my guns and tell any outside influence to fuck off, my vision is my vision, even if only 4 or 5 people are on my page, id rather that than change the vision for the masses

thats the biggest downside of getting the big funding from publishers, you make a lot of money and can "make it" as a dev using them, but they WILL rape your art into the ground to do so. The more popular you get, the more pressure you have to conform.
im never going to actually develop games, so im free from this reality, but godspeed anon

Personally weird, solo dev experiences are my jam, I love playing games that spawn from the autistic depths of one guys brain with no committees oversight

>>717821890
>I love playing games that spawn from the autistic depths of one guys brain with no committees oversight

That's the goal! I'm the same way, and all of the tools available to solo devs nowadays are so powerful that anything is possible which is awesome!

>>717810116
Me but my Nier, Atelier Ryza, and Elden Ring mangas.

>>717807151
Unless he gives the people who originally backed him for his shit version a free copy he can go fuck himself

I finally came up with the actual game part of my game instead of just having a bunch of mechanics that make no sense together. Look forward to seeing an actual level in like 10 years,

>>717821810
soft body physics for skeletal meshes? Nanite allows me to have the geometry for this, not sure how performant adding a simulation ontop of that would be. My current way of doing this is with bones in blender and baking the wiggle in the animation.

>>717822749
I’ve seen some really impressive jiggle physics for boobs, I imagine you could just scale that up to a big belly

>>717818921
It's called kill nigs and kikes. And the objective is to kill nigs and kikes.
It features real bomb recepies and synagogue maps. Epstein island dlc.
I would also legislate that it would be mandatory to make a 3 hour video essay about it in 9th grade

>>717818886
Very funny situation when you lay it out like this
Can't say I expect anything from him ever again, but I'll keep a sceptical eye out

>>717814752
I think theres a game to be made out of catching casino cheating, but I don't think all the management stuff is a good idea.
I think instead you expand the premise of the game around casinos just being sketchy places. You don't just catch cheating at the tables, but you're also watching the people walking around as well, and spotting any sort of mischief/crime/supernaturalhappenings that go on.
You give the player a few options on how to respond to every "event" like ignore, warn, and evict from the premise and you make it so theres consequences to choosing the wrong option. E.g. you don't want to evict patrons who aren't really a problem because then it costs the casino money (that you would've taken from them at the games), or you warn someone who should've been evicted and they vomit all over a table rendering it useless for an hour while it gets cleaned.

>>717823920
Maybe it could be like Papers Please where you watch card games to catch cheaters

>>717806426
Three years for me.

>>717806219 (OP)
What engine would be better for zero experience if I want to make a game in style of South Park Stick of Truth? Like small open world, cutscenes, free roam, quests, simple combat? I thought about RPGM, but I heard it takes a lot of knowledge to make something not in style of RPGM. Unity then? There are a lot of tutorials and I don't know shit, I can draw, but I can't code.

>>717824771
Dead Signal is also a good inspiration I think

>>717806426
if you ever find yourself zoning out to a podcast or some other bullshit start doing low effort busy work for your game that doesn't require a ton of focus. even if you're inefficient it's better than doing nothing.

>>717806219 (OP)
Fool me once, shame on me
Fook me like seven fucking times and I hope an economic migrant crashes a truck into your house you fucking kraut

>>717825242
but anon, his MENTAL HEALTH was doing poorly! thats why he spent 2 years going radio silent.... 5 different times.

>>717806219 (OP)
dang, i thought that was a crucifix. nope, just vaporware.

>scams people twice
>back again to try a third attempt
Germans are evil.

>>717814752
>>717823920
>>717824771
I think "Papers Please but you're catching casino cheaters" is a really compelling concept and I hope someone attempts doing something with it.

How many generations of gamers has he scammed at this point? I remember Cube World from primary school.

All I remember from the cubeworld alpha is that it felt really good to run and glide around

>>717806426
Next month is five years for me too. I can't stop procrastinating, it sucks so fucking much. Every evening I get a spurt of motivation, I do something for an hour and then "eh, I'll continue this tomorrow morning" and never do.

>>717825050
>can't code
Unreal Engine for the Blueprints or Godot for very easy to learn GDScript.

>>717808025
Techbically it would be the second unless I missed something. The og alpha was legit and showed he had a vision to follow. Beta/release threw everything out the window.

I won't buy this one until he releases, pirate it to see if it's worth it and likely wait until a sale is up, if it deserves to be bought.

I'm going to release it in a couple of months. Like full release, not early access.
I can't post it here because too many people will dogpile on me for it but I'm still glad I made it.

>>717827402
>no early access
bro its free sales

>>717806219 (OP)
I want to smash his teef.
>temporal AA
SMASH EM SMASH EM SMASH EM

I spent five years delaying the mere thought of starting, now that I started and have been at it every day I feel a dread creeping up on me that I won't be able to finish it within ~2 years even though it's an arbitrary meaningless limit

I KNOW the time will pass anyway, I KNOW I'll think "I just wish I started earlier" when it passes, I know I'll still feel the same and be years ahead than I would be if I did nothing, but I still feel like I'm too old and that my opportunity passed

>>717806426
stay there. the "i've tried multiple times but the internet is cruel and nobody i know personally has ever seen a line of code, let alone be capable of judging it" phase is far worse. can't grow if you're just being told literally everything you do is wrong, or 'yeah seems neat' and nothing else from an NPC.

>>717827298
the alpha was legit but he dropped it and fucking vanished while crying that all the sudden success and income was too painful.

>>717817737
>Transport Tycoon: The Wind Waker

i'd play it

>>717806219 (OP)
guys he's based he's using his own engine like my kinos, not using the evil unreal! XD
have my updoots!

>>717820141
yeah it's crazy how that's become myth instead of a huge lesson in how business operates. people should be keenly fucking aware of attempts at selling them 'new coke' but nope, they're as braindead as ever

>>717821539
i hate wasted potential so fucking much.

>>717826131
yeah it was a smooth feeling game, especially at a time when constantly hopping up 1m blocks was the norm in terraria and minecraft.
bless terraria for adding single block stepping

>>717806219 (OP)
did they give cubeworld away for free?
steam says I own it but I've never played it and don't know how I got it

>>717820108
I'd suggest you to put some more focus into shilling this considering how little views your trailer has, this is definitely more than enough to show what your game will be like and you need to put some work into building a community and following or else you'll release the game and it gets 50 reviews tops. Are you planning on doing a demo for some future Steam Next fest?

>>717828279
not that i know of

>>717828279
If you had the alpha, you could get a free beta code. Perhaps you did redeem it to avoid missing out but never actually downloaded it once you heard how shit it was and then just forgot about ever having the game

For all you procrastinators, this scene (and well this episode) helped me.
>>>/wsg/5945545

Just make something crap and put it out there. Then make something else. Just make things.

I already released my "something crap". Currently working on my "something else".

>>717806219 (OP)
Finishing up the last course I wanted to complete before I started on my own game but the asset creation is so daunting. The coding shouldn't be a big issue but producing all the models, textures animations etc is going to be so much work.

>>717806219 (OP)
>TAA
he needs to kill himself at his earliest convenience

>>717817737
unironically you could probably vibe code this in less than a week with cursor and godot

>>717806219 (OP)
It pisses me off that development is split between people who continually improve technology in service of nothing and people who can't code for the life of them but actually want to make games
Why do they do this?

>>717820980
>meme using faggot sees less and calls it 'soul'
'people' who do the soul vs soulless shit should go back and stop trying to fit in.

>>717820947
It exists, but you'd need several helper bones and constraints to keep bones from getting too out of line with eachother. What engine?

>>717814167
Proof?

>>717806426
I'm 40 now but never had an interest in making a game of my own. Coding is for limp-wristed pencil-neck faggots.

>muh own engine
>it's some voxel shit
every single time lmao

Just play Veloren

>>717828572
coding isn't the problem, it's assets. making a game that isn't offensively ugly is very hard, you can narrow the scope of coding ambition but you can't really do that with that artistic ability.