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Anonymous No.717806964 >>717807030 >>717807412 >>717807428 >>717807538 >>717807672 >>717807770 >>717807831 >>717808280 >>717809056 >>717809176 >>717809357 >>717810017 >>717810814 >>717810983 >>717811296 >>717811551 >>717812990 >>717813945 >>717814185 >>717814510
retards really be like
>yep I think left is the better game
Anonymous No.717807024
I don't care about retards
Anonymous No.717807030 >>717807428 >>717807476 >>717808979
>>717806964 (OP)
Hilda's game mogs both
Anonymous No.717807127
ALTTP is the best Zelda game
Anonymous No.717807186 >>717807485
Minish Cap mogs both.
Anonymous No.717807197 >>717807251 >>717807305 >>717807350 >>717807561 >>717810818
what is with this place and the obsession with graphics? I swear it's the worst it's ever been, always graphics, visuals, aesthetics 24/7.
Anonymous No.717807228
Yep.
Anonymous No.717807251 >>717807305 >>717807497 >>717807508 >>717814139
>>717807197
it's 50% of the gaming experience dumbass. of course graphics matter. do you just close your eyes while playing? read a book then.
Anonymous No.717807305 >>717807603
>>717807197
this board is around 80% casuals I imagine
>>717807251
here's one of them, and so fast too
Anonymous No.717807350 >>717807394
>>717807197
This comparison shows artstyle, atmosphere, and screen real estate are far superior in ALTTP.

it's not just "muh gwaphics!!" retard
Anonymous No.717807394 >>717807603 >>717813865
>>717807350
>artstyle
graphics
>atmosphere
as presented by the graphics
>screen real estate
also graphics
Anonymous No.717807412 >>717807450
>>717806964 (OP)
left unironically has a more charming artstyle
Anonymous No.717807428
>>717806964 (OP)
Gwafix don't matter zoomie. Both games are great.

>>717807030
also this
Anonymous No.717807429
I get that graphics matter so much because you watch other people play games more than you actually play them yourself, but the left is a better game in every meaningful way.
Anonymous No.717807450
>>717807412
Anonymous No.717807476
>>717807030
My wife who would never betray me under any circumstances is so cute
Anonymous No.717807485 >>717807846
>>717807186
minish cap is bad
Anonymous No.717807494
I think they are both about as good as each other and are also the peaks of the entire series. The map design in these games was fantastic. I think Link's Awakening has slightly better dungeon design on average, but the late game of LttP and how much it opens up just feels great to play.
Anonymous No.717807497 >>717807603
>>717807251
>graphics matter
I can't believe we have anons with such shit taste in this board now not getting flamed for being such idiots.
Anonymous No.717807508 >>717807603 >>717813735
>>717807251
i didn't believe mathematically perfect spheres were physically possible, and yet this fag's brain exists
Anonymous No.717807524
I always though of them as equal. LA has the better design but the technical limitations spoil the experience somewhat. LTTP has better visuals/audio but the world feels kinda empty.
Anonymous No.717807537 >>717807957
no way anyone is going to tell me a fucking Zelda game on a tiny ass handheld, with two buttons, weaker than a fucking NES, no color, and a significantly crunched screen is somehow better than ALTTP. Like it's literally just not even possible from a technical standpoint.
Anonymous No.717807538 >>717807625
>>717806964 (OP)
yeah, it's the MUCH better game
Anonymous No.717807561 >>717807638
>>717807197
zoomers, young millennials, and pc vegans only care. It's also the reason why graphics treads are so low quality.
Anonymous No.717807603 >>717807661
>>717807305
>>717807497
>>717807508
>>717807394
oh look it's contrarian faggots that think their tastes are more refined by limiting a fundamental sensory input. eat glass.
Anonymous No.717807625
>>717807538
It's not. LTTP shits on it in all aspects. Even music, which LTTP is mediocre at by SNES standards.
Anonymous No.717807638 >>717807860
>>717807561
but I'm a PC user and a vegan lol and I don't obsess over graphics like some people do. shit's insane
Anonymous No.717807661
>>717807603
I am a zoomer dou
Anonymous No.717807672 >>717807739
>>717806964 (OP)
I like the left more because I played it all the time as a kid and I really like the weird stuff in it.
Anonymous No.717807739
>>717807672
nooo you can't like things based on your own experiences it has to be an objective analysis aiiieeee
Anonymous No.717807770 >>717807817 >>717807821 >>717807881
>>717806964 (OP)
it was though. not that lttp was bad by any means, but pretty much all the gameplay mechanics were refined and polished in LA. it was just more enjoyable to play. lttp feels bloated/clunky at times. Sure it had more to do and more to because it had access to better hardware and a bigger cart, but ive lost track of how many times ive replayed LA. Only played lttp a handful of times at most.
Anonymous No.717807817 >>717807884
>>717807770
>lttp feels bloated/clunky at times.
Anonymous No.717807821
>>717807770
>but pretty much all the gameplay mechanics were refined and polished in LA.
No they fucking weren't
Anonymous No.717807831
>>717806964 (OP)
yes, left has soul, right has forced soul
Anonymous No.717807846
>>717807485
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE YOU YOU ARE THE WORST HUMAN BEING EVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous No.717807860
>>717807638
you are one of the few who don't care
Anonymous No.717807881
>>717807770
>lttp feels bloated/clunky at times.
it literally has some of the most tight, responsive, intuitive controls of any action game in existence.
Anonymous No.717807884
>>717807817
nta but I can sort of agree with the clunky bit, if only because you can only have one tool equipped at a time. menu is much faster than the later games though so it's hardly a big deal
Anonymous No.717807898 >>717813161
Anonymous No.717807946
What's the point of making bait threads? I don't get it. If you want attention, why not go to reddit or xwitter?
Anonymous No.717807957 >>717807998 >>717808064
>>717807537
Same way that LttP is better than a $200m movie game, it does that "game" part better.
Anonymous No.717807998
>>717807957
ALTTP is absolutely a better game than LA though. Combat, enemy design, boss design, dungeon design are all far superior.
Anonymous No.717808064
>>717807957
movie games are objectively better than LttP. they have actual charismatic characters instead of some dumb twink
Anonymous No.717808121 >>717808369 >>717808397
Links awakening is a great game and a classic but link to the past is a far better game and one of the best video games ever made. I really like links awakening but it seems like the contrarian choice for those who say it's the best 2d zelda.
Anonymous No.717808280
>>717806964 (OP)
It's cuter
sometimes, less is more
I do hate the ending
Anonymous No.717808369 >>717808443 >>717808873 >>717809306
>>717808121
LttP is overrated. It has flaws, but the fanbase are a bunch of zealots that either deny the flaws' existence or pretend that they are good design. Don't get me wrong, it's a good game, but shit like the ice rod being required for one boss and no other time, but not being found in that boss' dungeon, is fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.717808397
>>717808121
i personally think LA is better than lttp, but i wouldnt go as far as saying its the best 2d zelda - that would go to OoS/OoA. Lttp is good it just feels like its a bit too scattered/cluttered and some of the mechanics just feel off.
Anonymous No.717808443 >>717808642
>>717808369
>literal top 5 game of all time is le bad because.... [extremely minor nitpick]
oh shut the fuck up already
Anonymous No.717808452 >>717808528 >>717808569 >>717808606
best
>adventure of link
>link's awakening
>link to the past
>legend of zelda
worst

rating based on me playing them all for the first time back to back last year. all on original hardware, unspoiled, no savestates or guides. no nostalgia
Anonymous No.717808528 >>717808569
>>717808452
>le Zelda 2 is the best
another one of *those* fucking retards, huh? Or is it just one samefag constantly spamming his dogshit opinion?

Zelda 2 is just a downgrade in every way from Zelda 1 and has a shitty, horribly balanced jarpig grinding system that has no place in Zelda.

Worse overworld, worse exploration, worse combat, worse dungeons, worse artstyle, shitty magic system, horribly unbalanced jarpig grinding system, worse hitboxes, more obtuse progression, shitty jarpig random encounters, etc.

Only the most contrarian of retards would prefer it
Anonymous No.717808569 >>717809052
>>717808452
interesting take. I really enjoyed adventure of link and am annoyed that most of the hate it gets is from people who never played it. Im not sure id put it as best though, mainly because its too different to really directly compare to the other games. The rest of that I would agree with though. Zelda 1 is really rough if you dont play a ton of NES games or just really enjoy that game in particular.

>>717808528
or people who just like different things. I find zelda 1 to be really bland and clunky.
Anonymous No.717808606 >>717808852
>>717808452
>4chan is so fucking contrarian now that we are praising Zelda 2, not just as merely a good game, but literally the best of the 2D Zeldas
You've completely lost the plot and your fucking mind. Just shut the fuck up.
Anonymous No.717808642 >>717808741 >>717808957
>>717808443
You are exactly the sort of person I was referring to. You've elevated the game's quality to religious dogma and you perceive sober discussion as an attack. I literally said it's a good game with flaws. The first time I saw Super Mario 64 in Toys R Us is a memory I've carried for nearly 30 years, but I freely admit that game has aged like milk and can discuss it with a sober mindset. You are silly.
Anonymous No.717808741 >>717808945
>>717808642
thats a really interesting example to use. imo sm64 is one of the best aging n64 games ever made and is super easy to just jump into from any other gen. vastly different from many other n64 games where you kinda have to remember what you're going back to and get into the mendset.
Anonymous No.717808852
>>717808606
adventure of link is the best 2D zelda because it's the only 2d zelda the others are top down zelda
Anonymous No.717808873
>>717808369
>It has flaws
It has A flaw. The soundtrack is a bit weak. That's it, it's otherwise perfect. Not only the best zelda game, but in the running for best video game.
Anonymous No.717808945 >>717809065
>>717808741
I just replayed it. I can slip back into the style of play very easily, and the control of Mario himself is sublime, but it very much looks like a launch title for Nintendo's first 3D console, and the camera can be charitably described as a learning experience. I still think it's fantastic, but you do have to discuss it as a product of its time, and I'm not going to jump up anyone's ass for saying it's not perfect.
Anonymous No.717808957 >>717809204
>>717808642
SM64 is one of the two N64 games that hasn't aged a day (the other being star fox 64)
Anonymous No.717808979
>>717807030
i just finished this for the first time yesterday and it was a 6/10 for me. the movement was top tier for a 2d zelda, the music was also god tier for a 2d zelda. the dungeons were terrible other than the dark palace and ice dungeon being somewhat interesting.
the overworld and general sense of adventure and progression were the shittiest of any zelda i've played.
Anonymous No.717809052 >>717809280 >>717809298
>>717808569
>bland
Zelda 1 has one of the best designed and most memorable overworlds of any Zelda to this fucking day.

>clunky
But fencing against enemies with a fucking butter knife with a range of two inches, and even then the hitboxes are buggy as fuck where it will just sometimes phase right through enemies is NOT clunky?

Constant random blobs popping up to teleport you to some generic copy-pasted arena is NOT clunky?

A shitty jarpig grinding system where you need to farm the same trashmobs over and over in an action game, and where you are expected to ignore dungeon level ups until the very end is NOT clunky?


I just really don't get it. I went in with an open mind, but Zelda 1 is just so far and away better.
Anonymous No.717809056
>>717806964 (OP)
Look I love link to the past but I think link's awaking is better overall. Link's awakening ability to use 2 items at once just feels better and Is over all a better experience held back by being the first zelda game on gb. The oracle games improved on links awakening and are mostly a step up from both. Lttps only advantage besides graphics and sound over awakening is it has overall better bosses.
Anonymous No.717809065 >>717809229
>>717808945
ive never been much of a graphicsfag, its more stylistic than anything else. The camera is certainly dated though, ill give you that. As far as just raw movement and gameplay though, i find its one of the easiest older games to jump into.
Anonymous No.717809176
>>717806964 (OP)
The left is superior from a gameplay standpoint. So yes, I would say that Yume wo Miru Shima is the better 2D Zelda title.
Anonymous No.717809204 >>717809296 >>717809337
>>717808957
hasn't aged a day because it was dogshit the day it launched.
>the game with the worst camera on earth
>and some of the most bland and empty levels
>that makes you replay each level 6 times
>with some of the most nonsensical and frustrating physics
>where you turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight incline, and with literal invisible walls scattered throughout levels
>with a dozen different jump variants when all you want is a fucking camera that is actually looking where you're going instead of shoved up Mario's asshole
>is somehow one of the best games on N64
What level of Stockholm Syndrome retardation is this?
Anonymous No.717809229 >>717809470
>>717809065
Honestly, we're just agreeing with each other. All I'm saying is that I can acknowledge that a game that changed my life isn't the shining light of God's truth, I can talk about its shortcomings. Which is more than can be said for LttP fans.
Anonymous No.717809280 >>717810163
>>717809052
Zelda 1 is better than 2 but
>Zelda 1 has one of the best designed and most memorable overworlds of any Zelda to this fucking day.
lol, no, not even fucking close
Anonymous No.717809296
>>717809204
His copy was personalized to his tastes so he lacks perspective.
Anonymous No.717809298 >>717809830
>>717809052
>Zelda 1 has one of the best designed and most memorable overworlds of any Zelda to this fucking day.
ok, boomer. we get it, zelda 1 was your first game and in 1985 it was one of the best things out there. When looked at in a modern context zelda 1 is pretty ass. I think my last playthrough of it was like 10yrs ago and i still had to force myself to get through it. There is pretty much nothing interesting or memorable about its overworld. zelda 1 is a great game for its time, but the bar for nes games was very low. its trash compared to pretty much every other 2d zelda.

>clunky
i never said zelda 2 was perfect, it has its quirks. the combat wasnt that bad though and neither was the levelup system. you probably just were too dumb to understand it when you were a kid or hated it because it was different. or you never actually played it and regurgitating the opinion of whatever eceleb whos cock you sucked.

zelda 2 is way more enjoyable than zelda 1.
Anonymous No.717809306
>>717808369
I just played ALTTP for the first time this year and it's easily like top 20 all time for me.
Anonymous No.717809337 >>717809978
>>717809204
You're just shit at videogames, sorry. Having such granular control over your movement and momentum is the point.
Anonymous No.717809357
>>717806964 (OP)
I'm just sitting here, feeling thankful i got to play them both when they first came out.

Takashi Tezuka should be praised more.
Anonymous No.717809470 >>717809542
>>717809229
Fair enough. LTTP is in a weird place for me. My first ever zelda (and game actually) was LA. Played the absolute shit out of it. Never owned LTTP til much later, I'd already played OOT and MM by that point. I can understand why LTTP is a good game, and try to contextualize it - but to me it just feels like a OOT + LA but with worse pacing, rougher mechanics, and some really questionable design decisions.

Objectively its a great game and has a lot going for it, but I could never wrap my head around how anyone could act like its the perfect game unless they were just repeating that opinion for credit or grew up with the game and couldnt take of nostalgia goggles.
Anonymous No.717809542
>>717809470
All of LTTP's mechanics blow LA out of the fucking water
Anonymous No.717809830 >>717809909 >>717810201
>>717809298
What the fuck are you talking about? Zelda 2 released a year after but feels like it came before Zelda 1 as it is a downgrade in nearly every way. You're acting like Zelda 1 is some clunky, unplayable beast when in reality it feels much more like a traditional action adventure game (partly because it actually established many of these foundations and principles) than Zelda 2.

Zelda 1 has such straightforward but challenging and satisfying combat, with a strong focus on positioning, spacing, and learning enemy movesets. Whereas in Zelda 2, you just do gay footsies with your tiny little butter knife for every single enemy in the entire game. And that's IF you actually engage with them instead of just jump or fairy fly right past them because it's not even worth bothering.

There's nothing to "understand" about the levelup system, it's stupid, mindless, time-wasting jarpig garbage. The only caveat is the game expects you to either save the dungeon levelups until the end or do a bunch of repetitive grinding if you didn't. All it does is just make the combat an unbalanced mess, where it's too easy if you're overleveled, but just a repetitive slog if you're underleveled. RPG grinding shit has no place in an action game, and Zelda 2's implementation is one of the absolute worst as the power gain from even just a couple levels is absolutely massive, so it's a very delicate balance to not become underleveled or overleveled

You're that same retarded zoomer shitstain from the other thread a few weeks ago who thinks that all NES games are shit and have aged like milk. Just kys retard. Thinking NES games have all aged like shit but somehow latching onto Zelda 2 is just so fucking asinine and nonsensical.
Anonymous No.717809909 >>717810032
>>717809830
NTA, but all NES games ARE shit, including zelda 2
Anonymous No.717809976
Links Awakening was just better, sorry
Anonymous No.717809978 >>717810063
>>717809337
Mario accelerates and decelerates like a fucking vehicle, not like a human, and the main issue is that the physics are both unrealistic and inconsistent. And just in general, floaty physics don't work nearly as well in 3D games where you have limited information due to camera issues and depth perception issues
Anonymous No.717810017
>>717806964 (OP)
They're both good games. Why does it matter which is better?
Anonymous No.717810032 >>717810114
>>717809909
>NTA, but all NES games ARE shit, including zelda 2
Anonymous No.717810063
>>717809978
>the physics are both unrealistic and inconsistent
They are very consistent
>LE CAMERA
get good at videogames. I thought I'd only have to read this stupid shit in souls threads
Anonymous No.717810114 >>717810520 >>717811217
>>717810032
It's true and you fucking know it. I guess megaman is okay. Everything else was objectively and dramatically improved on with the super nintendo.
Anonymous No.717810163
>>717809280
No, it absolutely does. Probably the only area in which Zelda 1 beats ALTTP
Anonymous No.717810201
>>717809830
u mad boomer? you sound like a turbofaggot who never moved on past 1985. i have absolutely no idea what youre talking about in regards to some other thread, but if you think someone is following you maybe you should take your meds. unironically though almost all nes games did age like shit and are pretty miserable to go back and try to play.

yes im aware that zelda 1 established most of the conventional adventure game formula, but that doesnt mean its great. it was good for its time, but considering we're not only limited to the nes and the atari anymore its pretty shit to go back to unless you never moved out of the 80s. hell, snes games were worlds better than nes and are actually worth still playing. 99.9% of anything made presnes is objectively trash.

yes, we understand that you were filtered by zelda 2. objectively its a more enjoyable and engaging game than zelda 1 if you like action platformers. im guessing you dont, whatever not a big deal. compared to what we have today though zelda 1 is a pretty bland, boring, and clunky game.
Anonymous No.717810520 >>717810561 >>717810581 >>717810745 >>717810754 >>717811146
>>717810114
Mega Man is not even one of the better examples, you fucking stupid mong.

>Contra + Super C
>Zelda 1 and 2
>Battletoads
>Super Mario Bros 1, 2J, and 3
>Salamander
>Gradius 1 and 2
>Kirby's Adventure
>Punch-Out
>Dragon Quest 4
>Ninja Gaiden 1-3
>Star Tropics 1 and 2
>Castlevania 1 and 3
>Klax
>Tetris
>Gyruss
>Mega Man 1-6
>Gradius 1 and 2
>Metal Storm
>Zanac and Gun Nac
>Ducktales 1 and 2
>Cobra Triangle
>Blaster Master
>Gimmick
>Gun.Smoke
>Little Samson
>Dragon Quest 3 and 4
>Marble Madness

And SNES fucking sucked for action games with a few exceptions. They are slow-paced, slowdown ridden, and casualized with focus on spectacle over challenge or depth.
Anonymous No.717810561
>>717810520
add dr. mario to that
Anonymous No.717810581
>>717810520
Thank you for including classicvania in your list so that we can immediaty discard it as the ramblings of a nostalgiabrain retard.
Anonymous No.717810745
>>717810520
>SNES fucking sucked for action games
that's what genesis is for
Anonymous No.717810754 >>717811075
>>717810520
honestly if you don't care about JRPGS, NES easily had a better library than SNES.
Anonymous No.717810814 >>717811941
>>717806964 (OP)
You might want to examine your own use of the English language, before calling others retarded.
Anonymous No.717810818
>>717807197
thirdies
Anonymous No.717810983
>>717806964 (OP)
Gove me a midpoint between the two and I'd call it the best thing in the world.
Anonymous No.717811075
>>717810754
Not even fucking slightly true. Super metroid, castlevania 4, yoshi's island, kirby superstar, megaman X, donkey kong country, F zero, LTTP, even licensed games like Turtles in Time were enormously better than NES titles. I guess SMB3 is better than SMW but that's the only exception.
Anonymous No.717811146 >>717811291
>>717810520
bro half the shit on that list is ass by todays standards and shitty enough to the point where its miserable to try and replay.
Anonymous No.717811217 >>717811302 >>717811667
>>717810114
>Everything else was objectively and dramatically improved on with the super nintendo.
Earthbound, DKC, JRPGs, Super Metroid, ALTTP were upgrades, most everything else was downgrades

>Contra: downgrade
>Castlevania: downgrade
>Battletoads: downgrade
>Mario: downgrade
>Tetris: downgrade
>Mega Man: downgrade
>Ninja Gaiden: downgrade
>Punch-Out: downgrade
Anonymous No.717811291 >>717811369
>>717811146
>bro half the shit on that list is ass by todays standards and shitty enough to the point where its miserable to try and replay.
zoomer faggot
Anonymous No.717811296
>>717806964 (OP)
right looks better, but i played left as a child, which means its infinitely better because it exists in a world before i had to acknowledge bad things in life existed.
there is no argument that can change my mind on this.
Anonymous No.717811302
>>717811217
>Castlevania: downgrade
>Battletoads: downgrade
>Mega Man: downgrade
Wrong
>Punch-Out: downgrade
Sidegrade at worst
Anonymous No.717811369 >>717811481 >>717811591
>>717811291
think that if you will, but i was alive when some of those came out and played a bunch as a kid. half of that list was shit to play in 1995. Move past the 80s anon, the world has moved on.
Anonymous No.717811480
>lttp
>without A
do zoomers unironically?
Anonymous No.717811481 >>717811561 >>717811737
>>717811369
If you think those games have aged poorly, then surely the inferior action games on SNES, slow-paced as fuck and riddled with slowdown, have aged even worse. And early 3D has aged the worst of all.

So is the PS2 the earliest you can play? Faggot
Anonymous No.717811551
>>717806964 (OP)
I like both games
You'll never force me to choose
Anonymous No.717811561 >>717811591 >>717811691 >>717811828
>>717811481
NTA, but the SNES games are better, and if you're experiencing slow down, I would suggest trying to play them on something other than a 20 year old version of SNES9X
Anonymous No.717811591 >>717811672 >>717811737
>>717811369
Contra, Super C, Zelda 1, Battletoads, Tetris, Super Mario 1-3, Punch-Out, CV1, classic Mega Man have all aged like wine. I would take those over almost anything on SNES.

>>717811561
They have a ton of slowdown on original hardware you stupid fuck. Accurate emulators will actually mimic this slowdown.
Anonymous No.717811667 >>717811710
>>717811217
>Mega Man: downgrade
I get not wanting to acknowledge X1 but 7 is better than literally every single NES installment. Yes, even 2.
>Castlevania
SC4 is literally the best 16-bit CV
Anonymous No.717811672 >>717811739
>>717811591
>They have a ton of slowdown on original hardware you stupid fuck
No they fucking don't lmao. At least no worse than NES games did. Also CV1 sucks dick
Anonymous No.717811691 >>717813467
>>717811561
>NTA, but the SNES games are better,
nigga, SNES has like four good games
Anonymous No.717811710
>>717811667
SC4 is the best castlevania PERIOD
Anonymous No.717811737 >>717811793
>>717811481
>>717811591
go ahead, post your generic ass 3x3 of safe choices. get that attention from strangers online because you dont get any from women.
Anonymous No.717811739 >>717811987
>>717811672
My God, you are retarded
Anonymous No.717811793
>>717811737
>NES is better than SNES
>"safe choice"
hello retard!
Anonymous No.717811828 >>717811979 >>717811987
>>717811561
You do realize that most old games dont have dynamic framerates right? Meaning emulating them doesnt magically improve the framerate. You need romhacks for that. Also it’s fair to judge the game on how it plays on original hardware, dont be fucking stupid because at the time, even Zsnes wasnt a thing when the debate of SNES vs NES was at its hottest. Super Mario World is not better than Mario 3. Super Punch Out not as good as the original punchout. Mega Man X is good, but the rest fall off compared to the original megaman games which were far more consistent. A link to the past, that is an actual improvement over zelda 1 and 2. I dont think Super Castlevania is better than Castlevania 1 or 3, but sure it’s better than Simon’s Quest lol.
Anonymous No.717811941
>>717810814
>muh idiom
even more retarded
Anonymous No.717811979 >>717812025
>>717811828
>super mario world is not better than Mario 3
lol. lmao even.
Anonymous No.717811987
>>717811828
>Super Punch Out not as good as the original punchout. Mega Man X is good, but the rest fall off compared to the original megaman games which were far more consistent.
Wrong
>I dont think Super Castlevania is better than Castlevania 1 or 3,
You should, since 1 and 3 suck dick
>>717811739
Eat me, fag.
Anonymous No.717812010 >>717812114 >>717812184
Even N64 has more truly great games than SNES. SNES has a huge library of mediocre-just good games, but the only truly great games on the system are ALTTP, DKC1, and DKC2.

N64 meanwhile has Star Fox 64, Sin & Punishment, Paper Mario, Rogue Squadron, Banjo Kazooie, OoT, MM, F-Zero X.
Anonymous No.717812025
>>717811979
He's right about that one actually SMB3 is better than SMW. SMW is so boring that the most memorable thing about it is using the cape to just skip most of the fucking game
Anonymous No.717812040
contrarian hour
Anonymous No.717812114
>>717812010
>Paper Mario is better than Final Fantas VI and Chrono Trigger
lmao
Also Banjo is the definition of mediocre
Anonymous No.717812184
>>717812010
Why not DKC3?
Anonymous No.717812990 >>717813083
>>717806964 (OP)
LttP definitely has advantages in visuals, quantity/size of content, controls, and (arguably) music.
But LA did have some stuff going for it:
>basically the first zelda game with dungeon design that went beyond "here's a bunch of rooms with enemies in them"
>more interesting world and characters
>more fun combat and platforming thanks to roc's feather
Anonymous No.717813083 >>717813205
>>717812990
LTTPs dark world dungeons after the first one take LA behind the woodshed and beat it to death. Also LTTPs bosses are way better
Anonymous No.717813161
>>717807898
I don't get it.
Anonymous No.717813205
>>717813083
No, they really don't, at all. They remain quite bland throughout the entirety of the game.
Anonymous No.717813467
>>717811691
tell me you've never seen the SNES library without telling me you've never seen the SNES library
Anonymous No.717813735
>>717807508
>brings up a genre so constrained to its time and place that everything that came after infocom is just nonprofessionals making gay shit with inform7
really not the win you think it is
Anonymous No.717813865
>>717807394
Even if this dogshit reduction was acceptable, the last thing directly affects gameplay.
Anonymous No.717813945
>>717806964 (OP)
the dungeons in LA are a masterclass in design, some of the very best dungeons in the genre

(except for the Angler’s Tunnel which was some kind of mistake with no puzzles, a softlock and reused music)
Anonymous No.717813962
SNESfags truly are the graphics whores of the boomer era
>look at this remake of Super Mario Bros 3, it's 16-bit so it's better!
>despite them sucking all the soul and detail out of the backgrounds and design elements
Anonymous No.717814139
>>717807251
Graphics matter but they aren't what makes one game better than another unless they're so bad they make the gameplay worse too, which is rare.
Anonymous No.717814185
>>717806964 (OP)
I prefer left, but right is probably better overall
However, I think you can't go wrong with either. The series peaked with these two.
Anonymous No.717814510 >>717815323
>>717806964 (OP)
Left is the better game.
Anonymous No.717815323 >>717815710
>>717814510
why did wizardry stick so strongly in the japanese mind anyway?
Anonymous No.717815710
>>717815323
While both 6 and 7 got japanese releases, 5 was far more influential over there. And of course they made them gacha and p2w.