Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?

i don't know the answer, i also don't know why you keep asking
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/Wcc-nROmQD_mpApPwI6UYA/

False pretense, Linux is not good

>>717809170 (OP)
The vast majority of people will tailor their behavior around what appears to be the cultural norm.
Linux has never had and will never have the same casual media omnipresence that Windows, Mac or phoneslop have had. At most it gets used by one or two antisocial rejects as a joke.
Similarly it also does not get pre-installed on any computers unless it's a bad version like ubuntu that is backed by a corporation.

>>717809170 (OP)
they do, next question

>>717809798
you're right, it's not good, but it's the best OS we've got and we have to deal with it for now

gaymers don't know about proton or wine and the fact that they're necessary in the first place is pure autism

>>717809170 (OP)
People will use whatever comes with their device, as shown by steam deck.

>>717809170 (OP)
baby ducks gonna baby duck

>>717809170 (OP)
>Why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?

Gamers are all actually professional artists who need the full Adobe suite or else they will become homeless immediately.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it doesn't come preinstalled in almost anything and people are lazy.
When it does come preinstalled people happily use it, as pointed out by >>717810167.

I installed Linux and you couldn’t install any games and wine was inconsistent and didn’t work for 90% of games and you couldn’t install any softwares it’s pretty bad

Anything you wanted to do was hidden behind having to write 5 million lines of code

>>717813312
>When it does come preinstalled people happily use it
Except when it ruins lives...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI

Okay, but what linux should I get. I only use my pc for anime, porn, video games and 4chan and don't want to be bothered with anything else

>>717809170 (OP)
I game on Bazzite, I think it's pretty good. While most multiplayer games that have anti-cheat don't work, I haven't had the drive to play any multiplayer slop since Halo Infinite anyway...

>>717813704
Based. Love watching subhumans suffer

>>717813736
>linux users seething in the comments
You love to see it.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it's too hard for normies and it's shit and you're shit

>>717813704
Stop being brown.

>>717813736
>16 years ago
>Clearly didn't Google for solutions

She wouldn't have made it through, anyway.

>>717814291
She couldn't even use her Verizon CD! How could she Google?!

>>717813704
Try again after learning english.

>>717809170 (OP)
Linux is good for learning os not for using. Nothing ever works as intended. Also anticheats doesn't work in it, so say goodbye to multiplayer games.

>>717815107
Anticheat can work on Linux. Developers are just hostile to Linux.
>Apex blocks Linux because of "muh cheaters"
>Cheater situation remains unchanged

I use linux, learning it so I can be cool with all the hipster nerds. It sucks though, I fucking hate it.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it's like people buying consoles. Just because a lot of people use it doesn't mean it's good.

>>717815512
If you're not trolling, that's fucking retarded.

>>717815461
Eac is not working. You can't play rust or fortnite. Smallest amount of people causes too much trouble. Most of the bug reports goes from the 2%. It's just stupid to maintain linux version of a game.

>>717815920
>Developers are just hostile to Linux.
Just because Timmy made it so EAC can work on Linux doesn't mean he has to flip the switch.

Ok tell me what will change in my gaming experience if I use Linux

>>717815107
>Also anticheats doesn't work in it, so say goodbye to multiplayer games.
I'm on Linux and I mostly play singleplayer games. The multiplayer games I like also work. Kernel level anti cheat is just retarded and unnecessary.

>>717815920
>muh bug reports
Wow, people who actually know how to use software file useful bug reports? Color me shocked.
The example you're quoting was a retarded gamedev who I can't even remember the name of.

>>717816090
Everything that doesn't work on linux is retarded and unnecessary

>>717809170 (OP)
Can still chill on W10. Every day that passes I feel less like moving to 11 afterwards and more like moving to Linux.

I'm not switching to Win11

>>717816324
Funny how retarded is dev and not arch users who can't read.

Just switched to linux, windows apologists are such goys lmao

>>717809170 (OP)
People are scared of learning new things even while it's 80% the same (with the right DE) and they had to learn Windows too. Also because Windows isn't THAT shit yet. With LTSC and hacks you can make it into Win7 which was the best. Also anti cheats.
>>717815107
Duckstation dev should have just cancelled Wayland support. But also some Arch users are stupid for using AUR when appimage exist of the speicfic app.

Tranny OS. The constant persuasion for people to switch over is very akin to the grooming.

>>717809170 (OP)
"gamers" are retard normies

>>717809170 (OP)
Gamers have money to pay for os.

>>717809170 (OP)
Most people won't install it because OS installation is beyond them
For those who know how to install an OS Linux is not the simplest option
If they can install Linux they don't know which distro to use
If they know which distro to use they're usually aware of its limitations

Linuxfags have made a labyrinth of their OS, and even when you get to the end, it doesn't work, and if it does, odds are it won't work well. This would be fine if they didn't insist on lying to anyone and everyone that their OS is perfectly functional, because the only thing they care about is increasing the market share at any cost with no thought given to the user experience. I've met very few Linux users that hold realistic estimations of the majority's ability to navigate computer software, and even fewer with the drive to actually address it. Linux involves more troubleshooting than Windows or Apple operating systems, it isn't for people who don't know what they're doing.

>>717816849
But enough about Windows.

>>717817032
You appear to have written Linux every time you meant to write Windows.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because Loonie Troonies are retarded. They want to pretend that a bunch of cold war era server utilities can make for a functional desktop because you do everything trough a CLI interface, just how they like to pretend to be a woman.
Everything just werks on Windows.

gamescope has to be the shittiest wayland compositor ever made. every small mesa change breaks it. i wouldnt use it at all if proton was wayland native so i could use HDR

>>717816849
>>717817170
You're just jealous.

>"Linux is goat! xDD"
>"Oh, but this, this, and that, and this isn't compatible with it :^)"
Very cool.

>dude why are you using windows?!? Linus is better!
Does linux work?
>well, no- but if you just study computer science you can-

>>717809170 (OP)
compatibility still not up to snuff (you can link me proton shit all you want even compatible games suffer either from horrendous performance need extra time tweaking settings), multiplayer games with anti cheat shit most likely won't work because either muh paranoia over linux cheaters/laziness
Nvidia drivers still crap out on occasion
flatpak repository is filled with outdated shit (your average normie won't ttack thr version number)
some of software (see photoshop, 3D modeling and even some music editors for some reason) don't work or run poorly in wine
distros also have their own eco system, the more obscure yours is the harder it is to find solution to your problem
in short we always on the cusp but still never quite getting there

>>717809170 (OP)
Because linux wasn't designed for gaming. Everything gaming related is slapped onto it. It's not like DirectX and Windows integration.

>>717809985
Why is it autism? Those things are necessary because things are not natively supported, and people wanted them. Not because one or two programmers got a bug up their butts and went on a code bender.

>>717809170 (OP)
>alright I finally installed Linux! Let's gooo-
>uhh... why do I have no internet? wait, I don't even see the wifi symbol. H-hello?!
>oh alright so this thread I found online said there's something wrong with the network driver and I need to install these things. Nice so intuitive!!
>nope that didn't fix it. let's see, this guy says I need to install these other 10 things. alright this will definitely work haha...
>y-yo see??? I knew it would work Linux FTW
>meanwhile there are 5 other things that don't work now as a result of trying to fix it and I've yet to notice
Man, I can't imagine why it's not popular

>PC to play games
>laptop with linux for working and important shit
It's literally that easy

>>717817497
>Windows 1.0 Release Date: November 20, 1985
>DirectX 1.0 Release Date: September 30, 1995
>Everything gaming related is slapped onto it. It's not like DirectX and Windows integration.
What did he mean by this?

>>717817497
>Because linux wasn't designed for gaming. Everything gaming related is slapped onto it. It's not like DirectX and Windows integration.
gabe newell proves that wrong. windows wasnt designed for gaming either. gabe as a microsoft employee helped port doom to windows at the time because doom wasnt shipped on windows.

because installing an OS is enough of a barrier for people to just not fuck with it. it's that shrimple.

>>717815107
>Sperg known for sperging out spergs out

>ask some guy I know who's in cybersecurity if he can help me with linux from time to time
>"you shouldn't do things you have no knowledge off"
Why are IT tards so smug? Anyways is Linux that dangerous to use? I never had malware on my windows because I'm not a huge retard. I want to use linux to download old retro games through torrents etc.

>>717817897
And instead of sperging out he could have just enforced xwayland like the pcsx2 devs did.

>>717817938
>Why are IT tards so smug?
they can read a manual
>Anyways is Linux that dangerous to use?
only if you dont do something stupid. even then you can just reinstall.
>I never had malware on my windows because I'm not a huge retard. I want to use linux to download old retro games through torrents etc.
torrent clients run on windows. if thats your reason for wanting to use linux then you are in fact doing something stupid

>>717809798
The word you're looking for is 'premise'.
Retard.

>>717809170 (OP)
>too poor to afford windows like everyone else

>>717815997
You won't be able to play AAA games cause they install spyware

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it sucks and nothing works

>>717818349
>retard frogposter actually pays for windows in big 2025

I don't want the average /v/ zoomers trying to install Linux, even Ubuntu is too hard for them
Stick to your spyware OS, just suck down Recall, and be happy

>>717809170 (OP)
Colleagues asked me if they should use it and I genuinely couldn't come up with a good reason for them, beyond "I like it and it's fast".
What I like about linux is removed from most variables people think about when they hear "computer".
I don't care about looking like a hacker, the matrix isn't that good.
I have a disdain for monopolies but if they made an OS that was as fast as windows while being easy to use and rock solid I would make the switch (this will never happen lol, they love ads revenue).
I am a contrarian and I'm sensitive to people using me, and unfair stuff in general, but most people aren't. They just pay and forget about it.
I think something centralized like windows and mac makes a lot of sense because most people genuinely don't care. I'm surprised it didn't happen to the car industry yet.
I understand I'm 0.01% of the market, I accept that people like me will never be the norm.
Anyway, factorio is good.

I only like non gui OSes

>>717819216
*as fast as linux
using windows is an exercise in patience and submission

>>717809170 (OP)
Why should they? Games work on windows, what benefits do I gain from running them on linux? A few extra frames on some games?

>>717809170 (OP)
>Linux
>Good
Pick one and only one.

>double click setup.exe and install any program
>watch indian youtube tech protip videos for 7 hours to do the same
It's a mistery.

>>717809170 (OP)
everything i tried on linux had more issues than windows. it's playable but since it's easy to get windows for free there's no benefit in using linux for gaming.

>try that windows thingie vegans shill non-stop
>become deaf for life
thanks faggots, just works my ass

>windows
>gaming

>>717820227
>>717820285
>it's not perfect so this thing that's worse is a good alternative

>>717809170 (OP)
>People are lazy, I would know I'm lazy myself and I'm not moving from my win10 LTSC until I am literally forced to by a 10/10 game I want to play but the odds of a 10/10 game being released are as low as me winning the lottery
>Unlike what people say, not every game will work flawlessly, even with proton
>More and more live service sloppa bans linux support because their marketshare is too small to bother trying to develop anticheats for linux and guess what? Most people play at least one live service sloppa. I have 2 irl friends who like twice a week want to play some apex and I'm not going to blow off irl friends because muh linux. Yes I could dual boot, see my first point about me being lazy.
>Win10 ltsc covers 100% of my usecases so why would I go for something else that's gonna take some extra effort?
Until linux is literally plug and play it's never gonna take off. Right now it's for enthusiasts who have too much free time on their hands or third worlders who have a 15 year old shitty laptop (India #1). Doesn't help either that the so called super friendly community is a bunch of raging autists and trannies who will yell to RTFM except the manual doesn't cover your issue and then they'll sperg out even more.

Because the average person doesn't see a reason to switch. And for gaming? The average person actually cares they can't play current year game because the anticheat says nuh-uh to linux, and probably believes it when devs make statements openly hostile to linux users painting us as an irrelevant minority full of cheaters and hackermen.
Other reasons? Customization? As long as they can set a desktop wallpaper that's enough. Privacy? They probably auto assume you're a pedo-schizo the attosecond you mention this. Some higher open source supporting principles? Lol, lmao even.

>xhe fell for the windows meme
I hope at least you didn't pay for this shit.

>>717809170 (OP)
You have ten minutes to install any Blizzard game.
>inb4 who cares their games suck anyway

>>717819961
>watch youtubers for technical information
no wonder you're retarded

>>717820801
Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Blizzard games worked on Linux long before Proton and DXVK were a thing.

>>717820909
>Is that supposed to be a gotcha?
Yes. Do it.

But I do game on Linux. Everything I'm interested in either supports it natively or can be ran through proton.

No one will use it until it works 100% with every game and commercial business software.
Until then it's a meme on the desktop for people who want to waste time with their pc's.

>>717815920
Elden Ring uses EAC and works fine.

>>717821423
>>717821423
>until it works 100% with every game and commercial business software.
never gonna happen. if you want off microsoft's dick you're gonna have to use alternatives.

>>717821423
When why do people bother with wangblows, if it still can't run Valgrind after all these years? Even fucking Android can run it, wangblows PC is literally more crippled than a cellphone.

For being 6% of the PC userbase, Linux users report 38% of bugs
Fuck off Loonix users, you need Valve to actually make a good OS, like Microsoft with Windows
So much for free open software

>>717821959
>So much for free open software
feel free to contribute, the community is only as good as we make it.

>>717821959
Meanwhile wangblows userbase.

I don't recommend it for everyone, I'm just sick of hearing about the windows complaints before they bend over backwards for the next windows version, I even offer to install LTSC versions for fuck sake!
But beyond that, the current discussion is funny with bug reports coming from Linux users, because I have developed software and Windows users fucking suck at reporting bugs. They either go
>THIS ISN'T WORKING! FIX IT! NO, I WON'T TELL YOU HOW IT HAPPENED OR ANY INFORMATION ABOUT MY COMPUTER! THE FUCK IS A LOG FILE?!
or
>This isn't working... ah well, I'll get used to it
That second attitude nearly killed the servers our company uses. I'm glad that I managed to trigger the same bug and realize "Holy shit, this needs to be fixed now!" while other co-workers are like "Ah yeah... I had that happened once."

>>717822150
it's no secret that linux is better for any kind of programming and sysadmin, good luck getting shit like remmina on windows

Why would they if Windows works fine?

>>717822410
does it doubeight?

>>717809170 (OP)
Pistol's been doing porn with her boyfriend for a while. She's put some meat in her, in both senses, and she looks pretty hot now.

>>717822476
>Sure maybe I can't play the occasional game that I want to
And there it is, the cope. "It's okay I didn't want to play it anyway!". Linux isn't for real gamers and linux isn't for people who need any adobe shit for their prod. It's also not for people who aren't computer savvy. That's like 95%+ of the PC userbase.
You want people to start using your product? The pros have to heavily outweigh the cons for people to make the effort to switch.
Until then it'll keep being irrelevant, unless Europe finally wakes up and decides that they're done with microshit and they start funding a proper linux not maintained by mentally ill people who keep infighting all the time.

>>717822150
The fuck is a branch miss
>Using unknown shit just to prove that Troonix is better
Fucking disgusting

>>717822790
>Until then it'll keep being irrelevant, unless Europe finally wakes up and decides that they're done with microshit and they start funding a proper linux not maintained by mentally ill people who keep infighting all the time
Then the point of using Linux is gone
Just make Microsoft fix their shit with some stupid law instead
Linux is for retards who don't want companies working on it

>>717822790
>real gamers
multiplayer pvp games are the bottom barrel of gaming

>X doesnt work
there i summed up why 90% of normal people dont use linux
>"but it barely works if you emulate X in Y!!!111"

>>717822795
>the government is spying on me
This isn't even a lie, but Linux is no defense against it anyway. Systems are compromised on a hardware level these days.

>>717823089
>he isn't using TempleOS as his daily driver

>>717822675
I can't believe how much of a fag Logan turned into desu

>>717823135
If you are, then you are committing heresy with networking support.

>>717822959
>>X doesnt work
And whose fault is that 90% of the time? Certain programs avoid Linux like the plague for one reason or another, or only target RHEL/CentOS.

>>717822956
I hate to break this to you, but those are also the most hardcore of gamers. Anyone who makes the effort to play a competitive game at a professional level is “hardcore” in every way.

I prefer single player games, but I don’t try to pretend like people who play multiplayer games are somehow less hardcore than I am.

>>717823202
He always was. Wendell was too good for him.

>>717823450
people who play pvp games competitively are mostly teenagers and young adults, we all outgrow that phase pretty fast once they get to the real rat race.

>>717822956
I play Planetside 2 on linux just fine, and that runs BattlEye anti cheat. I agree, most modern shooters are pure slop

>>717823089
Not entirely incorrect, but you're the one willingly giving your information out to third parties (mostly google). For the privacy minded, Linux is the easy change. De-googling yourself is the hard part.

>>717823526
>not entirely correct
CPUs come with physically built-in backdoors that operate isolated from normal system processes, anon. When I say the hardware is compromised, I mean that literally. 9/11 gave the west an excuse to hyperfixate on security after they lost the excuse of the cold war.

>>717823450
CS2, Marvel Rivals, Overwatch work fine. Timmy Tencent can fuck off.

>>717809170 (OP)
I've installed Mint on my Thinkpad and it's already giving me bullshit like having to constantly input my password for everything.

>>717809170 (OP)
RuZZian with 4TB of pirated games here. Will my games work on Linux like they do on Windows? I heard Linux uses some pseudo virtual optical disc thing (AppImage) in place of exe files. Also I heard some games need some thing called a WinE (Windows Emulator) to work but then what's the point of emulating a superior OS? Wouldn't it cause slowdowns?

>>717809170 (OP)
Didn't this fag get caught trying to rob and scam Wendel and lost his fucking youtube channel to him? What a loser.

>>717820285
Borderless windowed mode. I had the same issue for a year, that setting fixed it.

Because Windows comes installed by default on most PCs and works well for most people's purposes.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it's still not as smooth as simple as gaming on Windows. I'm on Arch and I've been playing through Left4Dead 2 again with a friend via Steam and the first level crashes as soon as I enter the first hallway and turn right to look into the second room. I went to the web to troubleshoot and figured out that I had to add -vulkan to the command options for the game in Steam. It's mostly been smooth since doing that, but on one of the Left4Dead 1 missions all of the vehicles and some other barrier objects disappeared for the entirety of the level making it so I had to just follow my teammates footsteps to know where the paths forward were. I was also able to see special infected through the invisible walls. I didn't have to deal with any of this on Windows. I'm still sticking with Linux for now and have been able to play everything I've wanted to far, but it just takes more work up front to get the game running. Windows is just treated as the priority for developers on PC.

>>717824228
>Will my games work on Linux like they do on Windows?
Most should without issue, I dont know what you're hoarding and how
>I heard Linux uses some pseudo virtual optical disc thing (AppImage) in place of exe files
I honestly dont even know what that is, I just run .exes through lutris and it does everything
>Also I heard some games need some thing called a WinE
Yeah it sets up a fake folder structure like c:/program files/game that most games are hardcoded to look for, and places relevant things in there for you, lutris just does all this for you
> (Windows Emulator)
"Wine Is Not (an) Emulator"
>but then what's the point of emulating a superior OS?
if its superior, why are you even considering Linux in the first place?
>Wouldn't it cause slowdowns?
Faster is some cases, or actually playable in others. Win11 struggles with old games (windows 7 works just fine for those though)

>>717824228
Some of my favorite games seem to be popular with Russians for whatever reason and no, they didn't work properly on Linux when I tried them. There isn't much point in switching form Windows to Linux. The improvements made recently are better for people who are already using Linux and don't want to use Windows, but I found no advantage in switching to Linux for gaming, only downsides.

>>717819849
>left side
BUT you have to be Microsoft's little cuck

Because the only usable proton version ARENT EVEN A STEAM DEFAULT

It took me 4 hours of searching to find that protonGM and community driven proton version, as a compatibility layer, would work for most of my games.

Emulators was fine and i wish an unholy hell and a thousand gangbang rapes to everyone who made wayland

Linux is for troons and neet faggots. Windows if for straight and neet no faggots.

>>717824580
good morning saar, don't come to russia

I have an Nvidia GPU and I don't want to trigger my OCD by having to juggle between X11 and Wayland. Windows just werks.

>>717815997
Games will be more likely to not work initially and you will have to tinker with your PC for hours to get them to barely work.

I have a nvidia gpu and aa nice pair of programmer socks

>>717824819
ok

>>717815997
Gaming won't be as smooth as on Windows and some online games might not be playable at all if they use certain types of anti-cheat. If you only care about gaming you should just stick to Windows for now. If you want to switch to Linux it should be for reasons other than gaming. I use Linux and have been able to play everything I've tried to play so far, which is probably only a couple dozen games plus various emulators.

>>717824819
Do we need to post the map where India is the country with the most linux users in the world again?

>>717809170 (OP)
it doesn't work.
it tries to emulate windows, and just like troons pretending to be women, it fails.

>>717825134
Gonna post the list with all the names of Windows developers and contributors being indian too?

>>717814291
>it doesn't count
>it werks perfectly
>this video is old
>back then Loonix didn't work at all
>but nowadays it totally does
>pls redeem ssar

Messing around with C files and compiling has been much more smoother for me on my Arch set up compared to my windows set up.
Got a whole system for myself when making Quake mods.

>>717815461
>it totally works
>you just can't check on kernel level
>besides that it totally works just like w/ Windows
lmao

I like Windows.

>>717817090
>Loons infiltrated Windows TOO
I'm good using Windows 7, cope

>>717825236
>need dependency
>1 line in the terminal
being a dev on linux is night and day.

>>717821715
>never gonna happen
exactly
Loonix will never be used
Windows will always be used
keep coping

>>717822150
>In Loonix, we have the pronoun command
who the fuck cares, you fucking faggot
>you can't performance trace on Windows
LMAO

>>717825320
>use it
>2 months later some troon "updates" it
>breaks your software
>well, just update your software then lol

Test

>>717825119
>if you only care about gaming
I only care about proper photo editing, like with Photoshop
Oh, Photoshop also doesn't work
>but but use GIMP
lmao

>>717825502
static linking is a thing on linux too.

>>717825320
Between that and how smooth gcc has been, yeah.

>>717825549
Then why the fuck are you on /v/ - video games

>>717823526
>tr shitter
kys, but based for playing PS2 on Linux

>>717825596
>just put 1000 liebraries with 10000000 security flaws into your EXE
lmao

>>717825549
What is the point of this post? You aren't even that anon and we're talking about video games.

>>717809170 (OP)
I saw the WebM comparison of launching a web browser between Linux and windows and I laughed my ass off. Linux trannies are unreal, having to hack into the mainframe dverytime they want to do literally anything on their computer

>>717825651
>oh noes, oh noes, that also doesn't count because uhhhh offtopic
your "OS" is fucked and ass, and fucking ass
and not the good kind of ass, it's a fat ass with shit smeared all over it

>>717825786
These threads attract a couple of extremely dedicated microsoft employees for some reason. Its always the same posts and images.

>>717825787
I click the icon for my browser on my task bar though?
I use arch/KDE or as I've started to call it arch+KDE btw.

>>717825761
>doesn't want updates because it might break his application
>wants updates to fix security flaws
pick a lane bro.
there's a reason why maintaining applications is a job, libraries need updates and you need someone to fixup the application and recompile.

>>717825817
you just admitted that Loonix is off topic on /v/
weird that these shill threads are allowed

>>717825817
Yes, I've begun to suspect this.

>>717825228
>>717825403
>>717825454
>>717825880

>>717825868
weird that updates most often do not break Windows software, but on Loonix they do that all the time.

>>717825880
He didn't admit that, actually.

>>717825932
if your library is breaking backwards compatibility or you don't like it, feel free to change.
you're not magically getting better developers on windows, and fyi a lot of libraries are cross platform.

>>717825928

>>717825962
he said that nothing works regarding gaming.
therefore it's off-topic.
and regardless it tries to emulate Windows, therefore it's also off-topic.

>>717826024
Yeah, I dunno anon's point, unless he is talking about the glib stuff but even that's still cross platform.

The unfortunate truth is that windows and linux both really suck

>>717826024
>your liebrary
I'm not an incompetent retarded dev, who pretends to be a woman.

>>717809170 (OP)
I do use it though, last week I finished my 2nd run Wuchang and now I'm playing AI Limit.

>>717826091
He didn't say that.

>>717826153
you did.

"If you only care about gaming you should just stick to Windows"
therefore 100% off-topic and should be bannable.

>>717826210
I did not. And that quote does not translate to what you said, which was " nothing works regarding gaming".

>>717825228
This. I remember the exact same song and dance back then too.
>Linux is nothing like it was in 2001!
>2012 IS THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!

Dang, pajeetsoft shilling team doing their best. If only their coder saars were half as productive!

>>717826261
>if you care about gaming, don't use this pile of shit
>no, no, it totally werks
schizo

>>717809170 (OP)
>bros i totally recommend, all you need is unlimited time in your hands (just like i have) to fix everything

>>717826313
You reached too far and I checked you.

>>717809170 (OP)
But I do. I use Pop!_OS! and game just fine
>Steam
>Lutris
>Emulation
>Multiple different controllers
Only games that don't work for me are AAA shooter slop with kernel level anticheats and for those (be use I have friends that play those) I just use my PS5.
The meme that Linux doesn't work is just pushed by techlets who watch too much YouTube.
Unironically I really don't Linux going mainstream. Why? Be use if it does, it'll attract attention from corporations and we all what happens to a product when big corporations get their hands on something. It goes to complete shit as they dumb it down so even the most incompetent of normies can use it.
Therefore, stay away! Linux sucks for gaming! Stay with windows it's better!

>>717826314
>Be father
>Unlimited time
Pick one.

>>717826351
meds

>>717826361
>closed surce Nvidia is le bad
>closed surce Steam is le good

>>717826397
>be a millionaire

>>717825932
doesn't happen to me, but I'm not a retarded wintoddler

I can accept that I've been brainwashed by the Windows propaganda but it works for me.

Perhaps this is as true for me as it is Linux people, except I do understand the ability to get things running ideally can run up against a closed-source environment I have no full control over. Swings and roundabouts.

>>717826397
you realize his life is a playground now right? He has all the spare time he needs

>>717826454
I run a 7800XT at 1440p just fine and great frame rates. I don't care muh AI slop shit.
Don't care about nShitia and their price gouging. I'm not s brand loyalist.
Don't care about steam either. I get more games from Gog and pirating now-a-days

>>717826398

>>717809170 (OP)
I can only speak for myself, but it just seems like a lot of hassle to me. I don't want to learn an entire new OS just to play with toys. Even just trying to do basic things like installing programs or formatting an sd card where a pain in the ass to figure out while trying to replace my pc with a steam deck during an RMA on my mobo. Then you try to reach out and get called a retard by the very people begging you to try Linux.

>>717826398
I'm not your nurse tho.

what's the foobar of linux? dont know the program meta

>>717826705
Have you tried not being a retard?

>>717826749
I went from foobar2000 on Windows to mpv on Linux.

>>717826314
I love how much seethe his promotion of linux caused with you retards, the meltdowns in your little trannoid discord and subshittits were marvelous

>>717826749
you can always just lookup linux alternatives.
i use deadbeef.

99% of people want an OS that works out of the box which some Linux distros don't at all.

>>717826749
idk, I mostly listen to music in browser these days, for the rest Mint's default Rhythmbox works ok

Why should I use linux?

>>717826960
if you have to ask, you shouldn't

>>717826960
Don't, you're clearly fine with windows

>>717826883
That's because 99% of people are morons and too lazy to put in an effort to find a distro that works for their needs
>Gaming
Pop, Catchy, Nobara
>Every day use
Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint
>Nerd out and be a hAx0r
Arch, Gentoo
>Paranoid schizophrenic
Tails, Cubes
The average person is lazy and stupid. This is not up for debate.

>>717826454
>those games are not yours because you cannot abuse refunds
Never have been. If you did the same thing with physical games literally any store on Earth would ban you.

>>717826993
>>717827002
>why don't gamers use linux?
>why should I?
>hurr durr you dum

>>717827163
What is your current problem with windows that is making you consider linux in the first place?

>>717809170 (OP)
I use Linux for gaming

>>717827209
Same. It just werks (tm), unlike Winblows.

>>717827090
>just research what pronoun fits best

>>717827205
You taking to someone who gets their tech "knowledge" from Linus Cuck Tips. You're wasting your time.

>>717827145
weird that I can play my 30 year old PC Big Box games, while you can't play Half-Slop 2 on any computer that Half-Slop 2 was advertised for.

>>717827275
>Just buy and use what social media tells you is cool

>>717809170 (OP)
Gamers as a whole are lazy and don't want to come up with solutions. It's one of the most accessible hobbies out there, so plenty of imbecils call themselves gamers. While Linux is an relatively easy OS to use these days, there are still compatibility issues you have to solve yourself, which these imbecil gamers can't do.

you dont want more ppl using liunyux

>>717827358
Why?

>>717827090
why do troonix users always have this redditor air of superiority? Just because you have a computer it doesn't mean that you need to know everything about it. Some people use computers for specific tasks

>>717827090
Why the fuck do you think Windows, and macOS for creative purposes, do all of these things out of the box? Profits come from these 99% of people who expect everything to work. Windows may be a crappy OS when it comes to some tasks but it generally works for everything. Windows also has the biggest software compatibility out there, including drivers for devices. You think a normie with an NVIDIA card would know how shit support is for their cards on Linux? Even they wouldn't waste another 1k$ for an AMD card just to properly play games.

>>717827328
nope, just using Windows 7 and it keeps on working. No LGBTQP+ shit either.

>>717827420
> Just because you have a computer it doesn't mean that you need to know everything about it.
God I wish we could go back 20 years when this was the norm, the internet was so much better.

>>717809170 (OP)
probably because 90% of people have a nvidia gpu especially on /v/ and nvidia drivers suck shit on windows & linux

>>717809170 (OP)
Why the FUCK do they keep asking this fucking question?

>>717827519
Nvidia is the Apple of GPUs. For retards who think they're smart but overpay for shit.

>>717827465
inb4
>Loonix works perfectly with everything on everything
>except Nvidia GPUs
>just buy AMD GPU
>not that one, buy a different one
>that also doesn't work, get a different one
>why would you want to play that game anyway

>>717827328
If I did that, I'd be using a mac like every single tiktok and instagram influencer uses.

I installed arch linux and got hacked because of an AUR package so I had to nuke my hard drive and purchased a new one

>>717827551
>>not that one, buy a different one
>>that also doesn't work, get a different one
QRD? I thought AMD and Intel GPU compatibility was near-perfect on Linux compared to NVIDIA.

is dual boot recommended?

>>717813736
>computer is $150 cheaper if you get it with Ubuntu
This is probably the main reason why Macs saw an explosion in sales in the 2010s. Stupid Windows laptop makers trying to get below a certain pricepoint causing them to ship their computers with Ubuntu instead of Windows and then tech illiterate people being flabergasted when their brand new PC cannot run Word and Photoshop.

>>717827637
>I thought AMD and Intel GPU compatibility was near-perfect on Linux
it is, even nvidia just works these days, anon is shizoposting.

>>717827637
>near-perfect

>>717827465
not like new Nvidia cards are working all that great on Windows either

>>717827715
>you see 2 years ago it was all broken garbage
>but today it totally werks now
not falling for that lie

>>717827715
>even nvidia just works these days
At the cost of 20-50% less performance than Windows. Nobody is going to accept that and Nvidia doesn't give a fuck about fixing issues in their Linux drivers.

>>717827676
No, windows likes to overwrite your shit, I just run two separate PCs because I can but I understand most can't. Theres probably some method to stop windows from fucking up the boot settings but I never bothered to learn it.

>>717827759
This. I played Mirror's Edge on my 5090, as I do whenever I get a new GPU and I got less than 10fps. Fucking garbage.

>>717827787
>At the cost of 20-50% less performance than Windows
the benchmarks are actually around 5-10%
>>717827769
>2 years ago
wayland was one of the biggest thing holding nvidia back and they've solved that recently, so yes.

>>717827769
>2014 was 2 years ago
bros...

>>717827884
>the benchmarks are actually around 5-10%
Any percent is too much. I use a driver from 3 years ago on Windows 10 LTSC because every driver since has had less performance than it.
I will not switch to an OS that suddenly makes my PC perform 5-10% worse for absolutely no benefit. I don't care if Microsoft is collecting data on my gaming PC.

>>717827356
idk about that. I tried ubuntu as recommended by someone and it was so fucking hard to understand.

>>717815997
Linux:
>install game
>90% of the time it launches first try
>if it doesn't, google the issue and apply a fix
>????
>profit
Windows:
>install game
>90% of the time it launches first try
>if it doesn't, google the issue and apply a fix
>????
>profit

>>717827938
that's a fair point, but you've got only nvidia to blame. they've been lazy in bringing up their drivers to parity with linux, and keeping their drivers closed source stops valve for example from implementing optimizations.

>>717827938
>Nvidia just werks on Windows!
>I use a years-old driver on Windows because new drivers suck
hmmmm

>>717827967
What's so hard? Just install Steam from the Snap Store, and then install the games and then click Play. It's literally easier than Windows

>>717828096
Yeah, but I'm still not switching to Linux and making it even worse.

>>717809869
Linux could, if it were simple and easy to use, but it isn't, it's confusing and retarded and breaks fucking constantly - 100x more often than windows does and 1000x more often than mac does.

it's just extra headaches for no gain

>>717814291
>Clearly didn't Google for solutions

Are you stupid? (of course you are, you're a linux defender.)
If you can't connect to the internet, how can you google for a solution?
Wait. You're about to say something stupid like "just use your phone." Brother this was 2008. Most people didn't have internet capable phones.

>>717828119
>Just install Steam
that can destroy your whole TroonOS installation.

>>717828184
he says use your Windows PC, which works, to google for answers to ShitOS problems.

The Winjeets are SEETHING

>>717828191
No it cannot. And don't link the Linus Shill Tips video because he's an absolute retard.
Go here: https://snapcraft.io/steam , click Install, done.
Literally easier than Windows.

>>717828162
>I use two bad products
>instead of switching to something better, I'm just going to keep wallowing in mediocrity
not saying AMD is "good" btw

>>717828191
Yes, do as I say!

I cannot install a linux, and just use it effortlessly as I've used xp/7/10 my entire life.

Linux trannies are worse developers than the xp/7/10 developers. Also no software or driver support.

>>717828119
yeah, but like outside steam, epic games don't support Linux, and I wanted to try out Alan wake 2. ubuntu experience besides that was a solid 7/10. felt cool being out of windows but I couldn't handle it. maybe I'm retarded idk.

>>717828178
there are several distros that just werk out of the box
>b-but h-how do I know!
you might have to use your brain, which I realize might be a Herculean task

>>717828276
I am not paying $1000+ for a GPU.
My GTX 1080 Ti works for every game I play and works perfectly fine on Windows, therefore I will keep using Windows until at least 2032 when support runs out. Maybe Linux will have improved by then, maybe GPUs will be cheap again, maybe there will be a good reason to use hardware made beyond 2017, but I doubt it.

>>717828317
bro admits he's too dumb to install linux and then starts listing a bunch of copes LOL

>>717828267
>No it cannoit
stop lying, troon
>but but that video doesn't count
LMAO
>it's JUST another bug a glitch
>haha, just wait for another patch
>haha
>just

>>717827205
I don't have a problem with windows, I'm asking why should anyone use linux for gaming? What are the benefits?

>>717828276
My entire system is AMD and it work great. As I mentioned before, gaming at 1440p, no issues, no bugs, fast and snappy even handles my shitty content creating just fine.
Other than this board being full of literal paid nVidia shills, I don't get the AMD hate

>>717817938
it's a weird asperger/autism thing, they can't communicate like human beings. We honestly need an AI attached to every sperg >>717818090 to parse what they're trying to say so it gets to the fucking point and isn't needlessly hostile like it always is

>>717809170 (OP)
Kernel-level anticheat not being compatible with Linux and Nvidia drivers are the two main reasons. If those were fixed, the floodgates would open and Windows would be in serious trouble. Given those two are not fixed, Microsoft can continue doing the absolute bare minimum without fear of serious competition

>>717828191
What exactly happened in the video? Was it a glitch on Pop OS' part or Linus was being retarded?

>>717828361
Windows is a better product than any linux.

>>717828428
It's both, but mostly Linus being a retard. It literally said it was going to destroy the entire OS and wasn't a good idea, but you could bypass it saying "Yes do as I say" and all he read was that part.

Linux is for work Windows is for play.

>>717828454
Gonna need a source on that.

>>717828360
>Maybe Linux will have improved by then
This was the thought 30 years ago

>>717809170 (OP)
Literally the only reason I haven't switched is because Clip Studio Paint is a broken piece of shit on linux

>>717828298
>hey, computer: install Steam
Windows: okay, got it, done
TroonOS: here you go, wait, this MAY be theoretically harmful to your computer
>wtf, computer, why would installing Steam be harmful to my computer
TroonOS: well it just is, are you sure you want to install Steam?
TroonOS: btw. you haven't selected your personal pronoun. You should do that, otherwise we ban you
>Well okay, do it. and my pronoun is xir/her
TroonOS: okay, done
>wtf, I just rebooted and you destroyed yourself, you stupid piece of shit

it just werks

>>717809170 (OP)
My sound setup does not run on linux and they currently don't have any plans to port it to linux so I'm stuck

>>717828454
>any linux
at least you know that there's more than one distribution
the number of retards here that complain about linux when in fact their problems are with mint are staggering. install bazzite to play your games /v/aggots.

>>717828505
Yeah, hence the "doubt it" part. I've been hearing "Year of the Linux Desktop [Next Year]" for the past 14 years.

>>717828368
If you have no problem with windows, then you shouldn't worry about Linux.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and all that.

>>717809170 (OP)
Because they don’t want to fiddle with OS

>>717828530
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without actually telling me

>>717828485
>It literally said it was going to destroy the entire OS
no, it didn't.
it literally said it "may be harmful to install Steam"
>may
the retarded package npc manager doesn't know, how should a user know? LMAO

>>717828485
>It literally said it was going to destroy the entire OS and wasn't a good idea
im gonna have to agree with the opinion of linux youtubers that did reactions of the challenge, if the message about deleting essential packages was flashing in bright red colors linus wouldve stopped for a moment instead of typing "yes, do as i say" like a retard without thinking of the consequences

>>717828581
>TroonOS isn't sure if something is bad or not
>it's your fault
>it's just a glitch
>just wait for an updeet
>saar

>>717828332
shut the fuck up retard, I've been using linux longer than you've been alive

>>717828636
>it's le essential
hey, what about simply not doing so when it's about installing a simple online DRM software, how about that?
>but but maybe I want to install shit software that destroys my OS
lmao

>>717828557
what's wrong with mint

>>717828582
It said "WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed" and listed things like xorg and gdm3.
It was obviously going to destroy the OS, but Linus didn't even bother to read it.

>>717816635
I dunno man, it’s just an OS
I swear Linux users are like flat earthers or some shit
They like the feeling of being in a sekrit klub

>>717828501
I've used xp/7/10 almost every day of my life for the last 18 years and I've never had a single issue that wasn't solved by hitting the power button at worst.

It's the perfect environment for interfacing with a desktop computer. Linuxfags should just copy windows. I've heard source code was leaked, just reverse engineer that?

>>717809170 (OP)
reminder archfags, if you install from AUR you are just as bad as a windows fag

>>717809170 (OP)
because it requires some amount of technical know-how and that makes people nervous. there are two types of people in the world:
1. the type of person who sees a kernel panic and decides their PC is fucked without looking into it any further
2. the type of person who sees a kernel panic and does enough basic research to figure out how to fix it
most people are person 1, even if they shouldn't be. if you're a millennial or older zoomer who grew up with the internet, then you should be right at home with linux. if you're a mindrotted skibidi then maybe you should stay away.

kek ery blud be rizzlin' till tha initramfs an grub need a vibe check ong frfr no cap

>>717815107
>"wayland is the future switch now!"
>everything more finicky
>everything more unstable
>half my fun apps no longer work
>5% better performance
the fetishization of the "cutting edge" is one of the most retarded things about the linux community. at least there's still the debian boomers

>>717828753
it's a gnome fork from 10 years ago that uses old drivers and an old kernel. it's fine for browsing the web and some light office work but it's a bad recommendation for playing games.

>>717828762
>try to install Steam slop
>blah blah blah blah
>blah blah blah blah
>WARNING: ESSENTIAL PACKAES WILL BE REMOVED!!!
>blah blah blah blah
>blah blah blah blah
>You are about to do something POTENTIALLY harmful
What?
Me?
YOU, THE RETARDED PACKAGE MANAGER is doing that, because morons created your shit code

>>717828753
Mint is the OS you install on your parent's PC who are still technologically illiterate and all they need is a web browser and youtube. I use mint myself but the kernel version is several iterations behind and it took half a year for the 7900 GPU to be recognized. It's behind on updates intentionally to be as "stable" as possible with zero fucking around.

>>717828762
>It was obviously going to destroy the OS, but Linus didn't even bother to read it.
It only nuked his desktop enviroment. You could still recover by reinstalling the packages through the terminal but Linus didn't know that.

>>717827465
Plenty of those listed distros "work out of the box"

>>717828762
properly written software:
>hey, this package is FUCKING broken, we are sorry, but it's impossible to install Steam.

>>717828909
i'd rather give them chromeOS flex. it's free and fast and they can't fuck it up. it's technically linux too :)

>>717828924
so they weren't actually essential then.
got it
aka Loonix is even worse

>>717828994
>yes, install this CIA spyware
lmao

>look at gamers' buying habits
>gamers are retarded consoomers
>why don't gamers use Linux for gaming?
because gamers are, broadly, retarded.
t. Kubuntu 25.04 user

>>717828364
>At one point Windows let you format C: and break your installation
>therefore Windows is bad forever

>>717809170 (OP)
Why does he look like that syndicate dude from that old tech channel.

>>717829068
>things that never happend for $500, Alex

>>717829068
being able to break your install is a feature, once i type sudo in my terminal all bets are off, i want complete and total control.

Compromises.
If I want HDR and VRR working with my nice monitor, I have to use KDE on Wayland and lose 1/3 of my refresh rate (I have to disable DSC). Also fonts look fucking terrible with fractional scaling.

>>717829143
Let me guess, AMD gpu?

>>717829068
>>At one point Windows let you format C: and break your installation
Literally not possible, you silly troon liar
Windows wasn't made by pajeets and retards

>>717829196
No, nvidia. 4070 super.

>windows
>gaming

>>717828874
How is
>This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
unclear? Yeah, I know overwritten TOS has taught people to ignore warnings elsewhere, but that's not Linux' fault.

>>717829258
>but that's not Linux' fault
correct, it's PopOS's fault. blame them for their shitty package manager.

>>717829258
>blah blah blah blah
>this (installing Steam-slop) should not be done
>blah blah blah
then simply don't do it, you stupid pile of trash

Why do winjeets project so hard about trannies?

>>717829221
At ONE POINT, you illiterate projecting bangladeshi retard. Like it isn't possible to replicate that one Linus retardation with the current build of POP

>>717829231
Wack. KDE/Wayland is my daily driver on a 3090ti and I don't lose framerate and font scaling works fine.

>>717829306
Because dumb ad hominems is all they have.

>>717829258
>unless you know exactly what you are doing
user wanted to install Steam
double checks: yes, stupid package manager says "installing Steam"
what's the problem, you stupid trash?
>no, no, you need to RTFM for 500 hours otherwise you can't install Steam
lol the power of mental illness

>>717809170 (OP)
Because it's not good for gaming and anyone who says otherwise is either lying, delusional or seriously underestimates how unintelligent and lazy the average gamer is.
I have a lot of problems with Linux and I only use it because it's the least worst option, but people getting mad because it has problems running Windows software is something I will never understand.
Being able to run binaries made for a completely different operating system without emulation AT ALL is an achievement unto itself and if all you care about is running proprietary dogshit then you deserve Windows.

>>717829306
>candi brings plenty
her ancestor, wolf-blood-skull-crusher is rolling in his grave.

>>717829309
>at one point
nope, wasn't possible
even Windows 95 didn't allow that
TroonOS is WORSE than Windows 95
lmao

why would it allow that?
it would be retarded to allow that.
it also doesn't allow you to delete DLLs that are in use, same reason.

When it comes to linux there's a category of people who think it's amazing and does everything right.

These people are mostly autists. They are actually kind of stupid, although they always think they are incredibly intelligent; they are not. They're obsessive and autistic and can focus on a few things well enough, and for years straight, but cannot understand or view the larger picture. They do not have a theory of mind for how other people think or work, either, and lose their temper easily.

These autists see linux threads and cannot understand how people find linux to be complex. Just read the manual, just use the command line, just compile the program. They started playing with linux when they were 12, so you should also have a similar amount of experience and understanding with linux after a week.
This is why you always see these threads falling into a few archetypical responses:

1. People who don't know the first thing about linux, but it sound interesting and they might want to try it
2. Aforementioned autists
3. Normoids who tried linux but it was too complex/retarded for them
4. Guys who've used linux for years, still use linux even as a daily driver, and still fucking hate it

Anyone with an understanding of what people actually want out of their software knows Linux is a massive pile of shit. It doesn't need to be, but the autist group of people, who are also the most obsessive about linux and the most deeply entrenched in its development, ensure it's steady enshittification because they cannot grasp what actual human beings need their software to be like. To the autists, when you tell them the package manager is fucking retarded and you want your mouse options in the settings GUI instead of a fucking text file you only have nano to open by default with (through the command line) with esoteric commands you don't inherently know how to change to get what you want working; that means you are retarded.

And these autistic morons are rife in these threads.

>>717829310
There's no wack. If I don't disable DSC I get random screen artifacts. Even if I were to use DSC, reaching my max refresh rate, what I'd get when enabling adaptive sync is the screen going blank and flickering every now and then because framerates even on the desktop fluctuate wildly. This has been happening for quite a while now. I'm not sure if 580 beta fixed anything but from what I understand those drivers are making everyone's lives harder, so I have my doubts.
Some of the VRR issues can be mitigated by using another desktop like GNOME, but HDR doesn't work properly there. If it doesn't it's pointless to use Wayland.

>>717829445
>why does my OS do what I tell it to reeeeeeee

>>717829406
The unintelligent ones are the ones who specialize and work in Linux specifically and can't make software that can compete with windows xp. Then they act like they're better because they use a dogshit OS nobody likes, as if being part of a tiny minority of fart sniffers is a status symbol. Then simultaneously cry that no one likes their dogshit.

>If working out is so good, why don't you do it?
This is the only thing needed to shut down these people, unless you don't work out yourself and you're a fat slob.

>>717829560
Why the fuck is your OS asking you if you want to delete your goddamn desktop environment when installing a program?

This is the problem with linux autists: YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED

>>717816324
So Linux games are very buggy, how's that a good thing?

>>717815107
Just want to clarify what Stenzekretard meant with this post.
First he blames users for using the PKGBUILD HE released, using the -git one just werks.
Then he blames Wayland and guess what, he's a fucking GNOME user and GNOME devs are the ones holding Wayland development back, just google any issue related to Wayland and 99% of the time it's coming from GNOMEfaggots.
Even a Valve dev called GNOMEfaggotdevs out but he may have more success to get his points across to a brick wall because GNOMEFAGGOTDEVS are known for being divas/bitches like Stenzek.

Just read this about why GNOME sucks.
woltman.com/gnome-bad/

>>717829306
>2021
Microsoft didn't do a pride event this year. The virtue signalling era is over.

>>717829539
Ah yeah I think vrr heavily depends on the monitor. My g9 has the same issue if it's like 10 frames below while my vizio TV has no flickering even at 10fps

>>717812328
>posts a pajeet
>largest influx of new Linux users is in India

Hello Saar.

>>717827676
dualbooot is a pain in the ass because windows expects a ntfs and linux sucks with ntfs. just use two different ssds.

>>717829649
Kek I'm gonna read that in a bit but I hope one of the reasons he hates gnome is "it was made by mexicans"

>>717829727
It doesn't matter. If it's not able to sustain a framerate that won't cause flickering if I happen to select a higher refresh rate, then it's not worth using. This is not an issue I have on gnome/x11 desktops/Windows. x11 does not support HDR. So that leaves Windows.

>wayland, 11 matches
>kde, 4 matches

is wayland the newest thing chuds will make a culture war about? its just a desktop environment. This isn't even as bad as the reaction to lua or rust communities

like what the big deal?
- gnome/ubuntu user

>>717829560
>I tell it to install Steam
>it destroys itself
>that's what I asked for
meds

>>717829806
It's also a pain in the ass because you end up just booting into windows 99% of the time anyway, because you'll be doing something like browsing the internet in linux, which works just fine, but then you want to use photoshop or whatever else that just doesn't work in linux, and you swap back to windows and there really isn't anything stopping you from just browsing the internet in windows AND quickly and easily switching to using the software you want without having to reboot.

I really think you ought to have the computer dedicated to either linux or to windows, and never dual boot, because you're really just wasting drive space with an OS you're never using.

The only good way to run windows and linux together is linux with a windows virtual machine and GPU passthrough and that's a huge pain in the ass to set up.

>>717829952
>too stupid to RTFM
Windows is perfect for those with room temp IQ such as yourself.

>>717830013
everyone should have two os but on two separate drives. one acts as a recovery/sanity check.

>Just switched to lincucks
>Now I won't get spied on anym-ACCKK

>>717829502
>These people are mostly autists. They are actually kind of stupid, although they always think they are incredibly intelligent; they are not. They're obsessive and autistic and can focus on a few things well enough, and for years straight, but cannot understand or view the larger picture. They do not have a theory of mind for how other people think or work, either, and lose their temper easily.
Describes /v/ easily enough, hell 4chan.

>>717827676
its more recomended to use gpu passthrough via QWMU then any squabbling here ITT. However that requires a skill ceiling that half of gamers are too scared to turn on secureboot FOR BATTLEFIELD

Because linux has a bad packager.

>>717830094
Or just use a live USB stick

>>717830120
My phone is Linux too.

>>717809894
Actually mac os is the best os we have. The normal adult man setup is a windows pc exclusively for gaming and a mac for all other computing tasks.

>>717830139
Any decent AC will block any VMs
>make an undetectable VM
Literally not a thing, just hours of trial and error to mask whatever obscure shit the AC checks for.

>>717829776
>confusing the race of the person in a reaction image for race of the poster
You new or something?

>>717826749
Audacious with a VGMstream add-on that I had to build to it from source.

>>717830127
If you don't have autism you need to leave.

>>717830315
seconding audacious

>>717830320
No, and you can't make me.

>>717830251
Damn I didn't realize the Taliban uses Linux to get around CIA spying. Dumb fuck.

>>717830373
LEAVE NOW REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717827506
Smartphones and social media are the main reason the internet went to shit.

>>717830072
>you need to waste 500 hours until you are allowed to install Steam on Troonix
>wasting your time with retarded manuals means you are high IQ
>yes, we could make a text editor which is simply controlled by cursor keys, but nope, let's control it with totally retarded unintuitive keys, because fuck users
>btw. Troonix is userfriendly and just werks

>>717830443

>>717830320
I have autism, and I hate Linux, because it's retarded shit and wastes my time.
you probably mean unemployed retarded autist (brain damaged ones)

>>717829857
Something with your build, man. My 3090ti is able to push HDR and vrr at 5120x1440 240hz on KDE Wayland.

>>717829865
>push half-baked protocol upon millions, breaking everything
>take years at a time implementing new WL protocols restoring previous functionality
Wonder why Wayland got the reputation that it has. Thank you, Red Hat!

>>717827551
>>why would you want to play that game anyway
kek everytime

>>717830556
Yeah, 240hz. Not 360.

>>717830139
This, proxmox is phenomenal

>>717830485
The main talking point of Linuxfags is always
>it's so much better than Windows and everybody should use it
and then the moment they get the slightest criticism or even just somebody asking for help it's
>uh, you're just retarded, go back to Windows you dumb fuck!
Year of the Linux Desktop never ever.

>>717830184
Linux has two things that are definitely holding it back right now:

1. Package Managers
They are fucking garbage. There's probably a place for them somewhere but for userland software they just cause everything to constantly break because some retard thought it was inefficient to duplicate a few hundred megabytes of the same dependencies, so how about we make every program use the same dependencies so when the dependency updates it fucking breaks everything.

2. The overall design of the filestructure. Programs just scattershot across 500 different fucking folders, almost nothing is kept together in one place. There is no "My App I Just Installed" folder in Linux like there is in windows. You want to edit some file related to your software, whether a .dll, a config, some image file - whatever? Well fuck you. Go fuck yourself. The retard autists always try and point at appdata on windows like it's the same, but they are fucking retards who can't grasp that it isn't the same, that appdata and program files are easy to look through and 60 different folders on linux with random fuckass names while jumping back and forth between these different folders constantly when editing, is not easy to use or work with at all.

>>717809170 (OP)
No good control panel.
sysfs is shit compared to amd control centre on windows.
Give me that on Linux and I'll consider it.

>>717829806
>windows expects a ntfs and linux sucks with ntfs
wtf are you talking about retard. Windows and Linux are installed and different partitions, and use different file systems.
Dual-booting on a single disk sucks, but not because of whatever you're bullshitting.

>>717830661
tons of software has the same problem.
computers are supposed to be easy to use and work
just imagine switching on your TV with your remote
simple, right?
now imagine it's Loonix, so instead of just grabbing the remote, you need to walk into the kitchen, throw 2 plates against the wall, then scream "RTFM", then punch 5 times against the same wall, and throw another 3 punches against the wall opposite of it
now you need to read a book in reverse, and then jump 3 times
afterwards the TV will turn on

>>717830263
Mac OS is a status symbol. It's only function is looking pretty, which is entirely subjective. Trying to do any actual work on it is torture.

>>717830750
>they just cause everything to constantly break
I have not had this in 20 years of using debian stable.
Here's a big tip to all new linux users-
YOU DO NOT NEED THE BLEEDING EDGE.
YOU JUST DON'T.
Bleeding edge means bugs.
Rolling release means bleeding edge bugs ALL THE TIME.
It won't ever get better.

Just use stable releases and upgrade every few years, you don't have to use Debian- Fedora is pretty good, SuSE is loved by many and you can search more, just forget rolling releases, the bleeding edge and other memes.
Remember, --funroll-loops is cancer.

>>717830926
>Trying to do any actual work on it is torture.
I use it for work every day and never have any issues.
Macbook for my main every day PC, Windows 11 Desktop for gaming, Linux for my NAS.

>>717830750
>1. sudo pacman -S your program you want to install
wow, so difficult
>dependencies
never had any issues with it unless it's from AUR, rebuilding fixes it 90% of the time

>2.
config files are stored in the config folder, dunno what distro you are using but for me it's way easier to edit my config files on linux than dealing the dogsshit registry on windows

>>717830750
I still don't get why linux file structure is that fucking shit. It doesn't make sense neither in terminal nor in graphical interface.

>>717830926
macos is objectively the best laptop OS, period.

>>717830992
>use stable release
>can't use new hardware because stable releases use years outdated kernels

>>717831156
What doesn't make sense, exactly?

>>717831165
Do you buy every new iteration of a GPU as it launches?

>>717809170 (OP)
Why do people pay premiums on literal sliced [food (e.g.: bread)]? They are lazy, dumb cunts. Terminally domesticated, semi-sentient, inagentic debtcattle.

>>717821959
>why does the tech-savvy userbase both notice and report the issues of a program more
do you think a grandma is gonna report a bug when candycrush stops working on her phone?

>>717831231
First worlders typically buy new hardware, yes.

>>717831290
You own a 5090, 5080, 5070, 5060, AND 5050? As well as a 4090 and all its iterations?

>>717830750
You don't need to use package managers.
Why do you not criticise Windows for this? Games and programs are part of the Windows update catalog, but since you don't use Windows Store, you don't see it.

If you want more software and don't want to deal with a package manager, just download the .appimage - just like you would a portable .exe
Put it wherever you want an double click it to run it.

There is no requirement to use a package manager for anything other than system updates, which is no different to Windows Update and will run automatically just the same (but it won't forcibly reboot your PC)

Can't imagine bothering with windows any more. I don't even understand arguing "it's what I'm used to", when some ms product manager will throw everything out the window when they want a promotion. I rarely encounter a game I can't run either out of the box or with some cli config from protondb. To be fair I rarely play new releases from big publishers

>>717831270
game on Windows
it keeps on working

game on Troonix
gets broken by patches
crashes

one of these creates tons of bugs, the other one doesn't, because mentally stable people made it

>>717829865
>wayland
>desktop environment
anon-tama...

>>717831339
No, when I buy hardware, I buy the NEWEST generation thing. Meaning Linux is constantly incompatible until a couple kernel releases later.

>>717831484
No, usually it has kernel support months before release and that's one of the main vectors for leaks on hardware specs.

>>717831037
>anon wants physical drive G for games with folder with games neatly organized
>muh configs
I am convinced linuxfags are fucking robots.

>>717831484
If you use Debian or a fork, yes. Plenty of rolling release distros to choose from.

>>717831442
>t. just plays fortnite or just shitposts on his goypera gx or jewgle chrome browser

>>717828871
What the fuck are you talking about? Everything you're saying is literally wrong. It'd be a waste to even explain why, since you won't get it.

>>717831594
I'm pretty sure we figured that at least some pro-Troonix posts are made on here by bots.

>>717831617
>Fortnite
gets tons of updates every 1 or 2 weeks
isn't a broken pile of garbage, because it's not on Troonix

>>717831484
>I buy the NEWEST
The 5080 and 5090 released in January.
The 5070 release in March, making that one newer.
5060 in May
5050 in June, making it the newest nvidia GPU out you can buy


So you own all of them right? You bought the newest ones?

>>717831613
Even on debian we have liquorix

>>717829502
>you only have nano to open by default with (through the command line) with esoteric commands you don't inherently know how to change to get what you want working; that means you are retarded
How are you using a linux installation with a desktop environment and only have nano available? You can change the default editor in the shell, or just find the file in a file browser and open it with whatever editor you have installed

>>717809170 (OP)
Because they don't know how to install an operating system or they can't be arsed to

>>717830750
good litmus test for the utter state of how fucking garbage linux package managers are

Try and update a 2 or 3 year old install you had sitting under a couch and see how much of the OS is still working afterwards

An abridged history of Windows vs Linux

>Linux perpetually years behind Microsoft in innovation and is generally unsupported
>Years pass, Microsoft comes out with Windows 7
>Linux still years behind
>Microsoft meanders throughout the 2010's. Not only have they stopped innovating, but now they're actively making Windows worse.
>A decade later, early 2020's, Linux finally catches up to Windows 7 in terms of viability as your main operating system in terms of usability and software (wine/proton and good linux alternatives to everything)
Things have gotten to a point where you're either going to suffer learning Linux or suffer putting up with Windows. For many, Linux has become the less frustrating option.

>>717831720
>reading comprehension
What word came after "NEWEST"?

today I read on the newspaper that linus was shitting on some dude for writing shit linux code
why don't they just ask chatgpt to write it instead?

>>717831442
i recently bought new, modern hardware, now having Warcraft 3 1,26 launched on win10 slows down my audio on everything and makes it crackle. I have tried underclocking the cpu and looking it up feverishly, but there is nothing.
Works completely fine on my lin-mint dual boot, but there the problem is that i cannot play with friends through lan as they all use windows
these types of problems happen quite often really, you just choose to ignore them

>>717831807
>I only buy 8 month old GPUs, not 2 month old!
You're one to talk about reading comprehension

>>717831787
>catches on
nope, the file explorer for example was properly made in Windows
you get the whole feature set everywhere including extended functionality

in Loonix you may get a somewhat similar experience with just the "file explorer", but as soon as you enter a file picker (which should simply be a call to the file explorer), you lose it all, because retarded troons made it
this will never be changed

>>717831782
Debian or LTS can update just fine after a long term without updates. Rolling release expects you to update at least occasionally.

>>717831819
why would I believe a Loonix shill?
>modern hardware
>Not Nvidia
lol

>>717831990
>loonix shill
i use win10, the mint is there for uni

>>717831897
You're the one insisting on buying every single GPU release. No one else mentioned it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>717831924
Which of the 10000 file explorers/file pickers are you talking about?

>>717831782
debian stable- fine.
I can attest to this multiple times.
I've had more problems with Windows.
Can't say the same for Ubuntu though, 200% shitshow, even on LTS.
I'd also retort with how many linux distros just shit the bed and bootloop if they flag the last boot as bad? Windows 8/8.1/10/11 will do that a whole lot (Win7 will never though)

>>717832062
>I'm totally not
>my uni demands Loonix
lmao

>>717826314
he actually said that it was painful to set everything up and pointed out that he still has to use windows. If anything, his video had the opposite effect

>>717832081
there should be A file explorer, which has the functionality that Windows offers, and which should pop up anywhere, even when you "pick a file", LIKE ON WINDOWS, where it actually works fine

that's not the case on Loonix and never will be.
>why would you want to sort according to $criteria when you pick a file
every
single
time

>>717832110
i don't have anything to prove to some random raging retard waging a religious war on operating systems on an american anime discussion forum
do you know how i can fix this audio bug that specifically happens when i launch older versions of Warcraft 3 or nah?

>>717828371
Part of the AMD hate is simply because much like linux users, a good portion of AMD users were insufferable redditors for decades. I wouldn't hate furries if they didn't shit up my boards at some point, same thing with people who were team red even when it sucked big time and had to be all smug about it like they had 240 IQ because they used an athlon xp. Like that future starbucks barrista who enrolled in psychology 101 and thinks he can read and predict everybody, huffing his own farts not realizing everyone wonders who the fuck invited him to the party. Over the years it unconciously seeps through your psyche and you tend to dislike these people without even realizing it.

>>717826314
>literal racist Nazi influencer tries to push Troonix
>it also fails
I wonder who paid that piece of shit.

>>717831814
because M$ is doing that already

>>717825787
You can drag shortcuts to the desktop in every Linux distro.

>>717809170 (OP)
0 exposure to the biggest audience when MS has done irreversible reputational damage to it in the 90-2000's, as they were afraid that they'd gain the market share. Now, fewer developers write for it (desktop usage) and fewer OEMs make drivers for hardware. Also rather a low number of computers ship with Linux, which is one major way to introduce people to it (since many are not bothered to switch what's already installed on the PC).

>>717832064
> No one else mentioned it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Time to break this one down for you

>>717831165 mentions not being able to use new hardware, despite even Mint being painfully behind on updates, can use the 5090
>>717831231 cheekily asks if he buys every GPU, because the way nvidia releases things, the newest cards are the worst ones
>>717831290 unaware of the impending joke at his expensive, confirms
>>717831484 doubles down, saying he only buys the NEWEST in all capitals, sure of his post
>>717831720 reveals that "newest" means literally buying every 5000 model card, due to nvidias release cycle
>>717831807 >>717832064 illiterate cope posts

Hope this helped!

>>717832195
>I don't have anything to prove
I accept your concession.

>>717832190
Yes but which one? Do I really need to quote the stallman copypasta?

Because normies don't ever touch anything bios related and never install an os
There is no deeper reason

>>717832315
>le memespeak
typical of an intellectually dishonest retard to reply in this manner, no better than a bot

>>717832339
t. ESL

>>717832290
The joke being? You're poor? Niggas buy new hardware

>>717832379
This is literally it.
It's also why SteamDeck is just winning.

>>717832409
>Troonix lying as usual
>no, you have to react somehow and waste your time
I accept your concession.

>>717832410
>t. thinks "Linux" is an operating system with a single file explorer and file picker

>>717832449
>winning
>by selling not even 10% of what the Wii U did
the Wii U lol

>>717809170 (OP)
not good enough yet
also linux needs to get big enough that you can buy USBs used for installing like you can with windows
i for some reason cannot install any bootable usb program on a usb of mine anymore after attempting to start using linux by using nobara about 2 months ago, i almost bricked my motherboard since i couldnt even boot into bios anymore after i tried to change one setting, to use a program like i could on windows
thankfully i was able to install windows again since i have a usb i bought long ago, and my other usb is still good to use

>>717809170 (OP)
Because Nvidia drivers are fucking shit. /Thread

>>717832526
>still doesn't understand simple English
Hey, moron, you may have 10 file explorers, but all of them are shite
even one that works properly everywhere would make it slightly better than the turd cake you got currently

and you see, it would be simple, just do it like Windows does it
API -> file explorer gets called, opens, lets you pick a file, returns the file back to the caller
simple as that, but too complicated for troons

People don't use Linux because Linux is a pain in the ass to use when compared to the simplicity of Windows/MacOS.

>>717832526
It doesn't really matter, since 80% of users will never pick anything more than default.
Steamdeck coming with Arch+KDE preinstalled that you never have to interact with if you don't want to is the best thing to happen for the linux desktop in a decade.

>>717832638
You tried them all? Tell me which ones gave you the most problems.

I don't know why people are talking about linux being so daunting. I know non-technical people who can just start using something like mint or fedora without any trouble. And if you do want to get familiar with the command line, file system etc it takes a few afternoons to learn the basics. That knowledge is also transferable, whereas your familiarity with using windows is not even applicable to other microsoft products

>>717832419
So you own all of these cards? >>717831339

>>717832687
a non-moron would understand that simply this functionality is missing in Troonix, so it literally can't work.
File pickers are part of the GUI (which for some reason you have to have 5 of or 10), but file explorers aren't, simple as that, you stupid shill

>>717832540
?
Does that really matter?
It's sold more than any other Linux hardware outside Android has before and it did it by doing the same thing, making it stupidly easy by default and giving it a ton of power under the hood if you want it.
Some spooky turtlenecked ghost is probably laughing right now.

>>717831814
Using AI on a large code base is shit, its moderately good for prototypes and scaffolding but other than that if you are utilizing it you are just creating technical debt at a higher rate when you could just make the feature yourself in a few hours and not have to debug as much.

I tried utilizing agentic AI for my emulator made in Go and the AI decided to make a hidden emulator for my emulator that both didn't work and also made me waste 3 fucking hours figuring out what the fuck went on.

>>717832540
It's selling significantly more than any other pc handheld and having weaker hardware

>>717832770
oh and you could even make it work while still having separate file explorers, but troons are too stupid to do so
it would be too user friendly and it would just work, so can't have that.

at best you get a somewhat similar looking file picker, but without most functionality especially retarding enhancements, which are common on Windows and which work just fine.

one component is broken like shit on Loonix, and you ignore it.

>>717829664
Meanwhile troonix embedded troony wallpapers on each gnome powered distro lmao

>>717809170 (OP)
Not meant for subhumans and the vast majority of gaymers are 80 iq mulattospicnigger knuckledraggers, as proven by this board. I don't want any more malware that fishes for retards on the AUR than there already is.
All the games made by and for white people perfectly function on Linux, i do not want nor need lol of legends or shartnite.
Hear that, brownies, stay the fuck away.
The terminal is unbelievably scary, nothing EVER fucking works, you will have to READ and LEARN. Stick to windows, or better yet, stick to your console toys and don't touch my shit.

>>717832760
I know you definitely don't. HAHA

>>717832835
yes, it's not a win, when it sold like shit

>>717832886
I'm a console convert and Windows feels like home to me :)

>>717832879
>android user

>>717832526
It should be yes, basic fucking functionality should be standardized, but that seems to be too outlandish of a concept for linuxfags to comprehend.

>>717832770
>File pickers are part of the GUI (which for some reason you have to have 5 of or 10), but file explorers aren't, simple as that, you stupid shill
>file explorers aren't part of the gui

I'm struggling to grasp the problem you encountered

>>717832879
>One desktop environment is just like the whole fucking user base getting troonshit pushed
Linux lets you choose
Windows forces you to support trannies
You have in fact paid a tranny's salary by buying a product with a windows license included while you never have to pay even a single dime for Linux

>>717831484
Sounds like you should stick to windows since you're a consumerist sheep.

>>717832872
I really doubt you tried them all. Unless the "sort" issue is your only concern, you seem to only be upset that the file picker and the file browser aren't the same exact program? Because there are plenty of distros where the functionality is, for all intents and purposes, similar (just split into two programs)

>>717809170 (OP)
Using Linux for personal use is retarded. You buy a product that runs Linux, someone was paid to make it work properly. So unless you're getting paid or a hobbyist you're wasting your time.

Windows 11 just works.
Linux doesn't.

>>717833130
>You have in fact paid a tranny's salary by buying a product with a windows license included while you never have to pay even a single dime for Linux
I never paid a single cent on my Windows install, meanwhile this is your troonix developer looks like.

>>717832770
>File pickers are part of the GUI (which for some reason you have to have 5 of or 10)
Ah yes
Win16
WinG
GDI
GDI+
.net
Windows Forms
Aero
Metro
Polymer
etc.

>>717833226
Stunning and brave troonix devs.

>>717832190
You appear to fundamentally misunderstand what Linux is.

>>717833051
>>717833051
>basic fucking functionality should be standardized
linux isn't windows, everyone's free to develop whatever the fuck they want, yes it leads to fragmentation, but it also lets you choose the one you prefer.

>>717833226
Do you think Microsoft doesn't hire trannies or something?
The point is that with windows you're ALWAYS a slave to whatever tranny hires while with Linux you're not

>>717833290
>reee why are these people getting something done!

>>717833270
BOOL GetOpenFileNameA(
[in, out] LPOPENFILENAMEA unnamedParam1
);
For every windows native program, except shitty troonix port like gimp lmao

i dual boot linux mint and wangblows 10

>>717833181
Sounds like you should stick to Linux since that's all you can afford.

>>717833051
>GRRR WHY AM I MEANT WITH CHOICE, THEY DINT TEACH ME AGENCY IN SCHOOL I AM NOT MEANT TO DEAL WITH THIS

>>717833336
>Linux you're not
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Troonix to Tranny pipeline is fucking real

>>717833331
Technically that's true on Windows too but they're also too stupid to know that.
I use blackbox on my work system.

>>717833051
Just follow what valve does then?
They'll be the ones to bring it to the mainstream so there's your standard

Gamers do use linux, but not for gaming. If you're a real gamer, you'd know what for.

>>717833487
Yes?
Do you not know what a desktop environment is and why whatever gnome does is irrelevant to everyone else?

>>717833626
ren'py is faster on linux. just saiyan.

>>717833759
>look I have 999999fps on powerpoint tier graphical novel
embarrasing

>>717833635
>whatever gnome does is irrelevant to everyone else
gnome has a huge influence on the linux desktop, even if you're not using gnome yourself.
mint for example is forking adwaita just so that they can get access to modern gnome apps.

>>717833852
I feel bad for you. Puritanical to your own demise.

>>717833331
It really doesn't, because every retard just has to do shit differently instead of cutting loses and adopting whichever has better adoption rates to improve it together. Standardized formats do fucking work, that is why we have DVD, BluRay and VHS before that.

>>717834010
>mint
OK how about moving to KDE and not giving a fuck about gnomeshit

>>717826791
You're not gonna bully people into giving a shit about something.

>>717834412
if you use any gtk application you're directly concerned by GNOME, whether it's firefox, gimp...
like it or not, GNOME is the big dog on linux desktop.

>>717834606
Too bad, sticking with KDE

>>717834205
Standards make a lot more sense when it comes to actual physical goods where actual money is involved and customers can't just shuffle shit around to fit
You can always pick another DE for free and right now KDE is looking like the standard

>>717834606
Yeah I guess that's true. However most non gnome DEs have their own patches they apply to bigger gtk apps (like Firefox) to integrate theming, or shim in their own qt file picker, etc. Most are trying to figure out their own ways around it instead of work with what gnome has to offer.
I blame canonical

>>717834775
>where actual money is involved
plenty of money is involved on linux. do you think canonical and red hat are doing this for fun?

>>717835286
I meant consumer facing standards
People involved with professional shit don't get filtered over the intricacies of different DEs, they get paid

>>717822795
This never gets old

>>717835718
>I meant consumer facing standards
yes, and that standard is GNOME.

>>717835915
considering the sole entity responsible for big growth in consumer Linux is using KDE I have to disagree

>>717833290
Imagine the smell.

>>717835905
I like this one better.

>>717836052
do you have any numbers to back that up? because last i heard GNOME was about 50% of the linux desktop.
Ubuntu is GNOME, Fedora is GNOME, mint is GNOME. the only thing KDE really has going for it is the community vote and valve who doesn't give a shit about desktop.

>>717833759
I'm mostly talking about security.

>>717836336
Yeah I obviously meant valve
They've released the only public facing piece of hardware and the tremendous strides that proton took are hugely responsible for the boost Linux has received in the last 5 years
Don't be surprised to see that number to go even higher when deck 2 going big is going to put Linux on the map for normies

>>717836941
valve was using GNOME for the steam machine, it's a recent development for them to be using KDE.
wouldn't surprise me one bit to see SteamOS default to GNOME as that's where most of the money and accessibility work is, not to mention the GPL.

>>717809170 (OP)
Wendell won.

>>717833087
>there is no problem
except usability and consistency, something that you never experienced in Troonix

>>717833186
no, you retarded shill.
the point is that the file explorer should be available everywhere.
if I have an extension, that sorts according to a DEI score, then that you should be available everywhere including "file pickers".
and the settings for each folder should also be applied everywhere, not just in "the explorer".

shit design vs good design
simple as that

I switched to nobara some months ago and the only game I couldn't run yet was fallout 1&2. I mostly play old singleplayer games though.
I have used the terminal only at the beginning to fix some minor shit and now it just works

>>717833270
>Aero
that's a visual style, retard.

>>717837212
Consistency with?
You're just mad that you can't transfer your windows experience 1 to 1

>>717833308
>but it's protributions, not Linux

>>717833226
At least it wasn't created by a literal pedo.

>>717837393
>you can't
you could, if non retarded devs were involved
Windows has a simple API call to get the file explorer file picker, and that works.
Anyone else CAN do the same, but they are too incompetent, retarded and lazy to do so.

You also need to be interested in being user friendly, which Troonix lacks.

>>717837469
>Windows was created by Bill
nope
>Bill developed software
lmao, no
>Bill made DOS
nope
Bill is a business man, and a vaccine expert.

>>717829078
Because he is. He is also a hack and it's obvious that his channel was only carried by Wendell

>>717828773
It's just comfy knowing your OS isn't phoning home constantly, or throwing prompts to log in to an online account, or adding AI 'features' when you didn't ask for them.

>>717837469
Loonix was created by a literal Nazi buffoon.

>>717809170 (OP)
he's so ugly
we don't really need to see that faggy face if he talks about computers

>>717837789
Wait, this is based

>>717837772
>It's just comfy that Google is spying on me, but I feel like I'm safe
>baseless conspiracy theory
Loonix gets you either Google's Firefox or Google's shit browser.

>>717837849
>socialist
>based
choose one

>>717837789
wtf my penguin OS can't stop getting better and better

>>717835905
>chuds and trannies are two sides of the same cooin

it all makes sense now

>>717837869
wtf are you talking about? I mean OS level telemetry retard, not some random browser

>>717838135
penguins are socialist subhuman symbols
don't forget to get your socialist shot

>>717838175
>the browser doesn't count
every
single
time

>my Troonix doesn't transmit anything outside, except that it syncs itself with (((app stores)))
>Android is totally not phoning home
>wait, that doesn't count!!!

>>717838186
stay mad, zigger subhuman

Not trans so not for me

>>717838273
Loonix demands that you choose a personal pronoun and doesn't accept cis gender.

>>717838362
I choose Was/Were

>>717838273
Don't worry, there's a trans OS better suited for your tastes.

>>717838452
not a valid pronoun
Linus bans your cis ass.

>>717838467
Lmao every homo that posts in his programmer socks is a Linux user.

>>717838497
ACK

>>717838467
at least not m*rxist

>>717838652
Linus seems like the kind of guy to brick people's PCs over ideologies.

>>717839127
yes, which is why it's retarded to trust that fucker.
meanwhile Microsoft won't break your computer.

>>717839183
works on my machine

>>717839127
he threw Russian volunteers out.
Just like that.
Didn't even explain himself.
Just kicked them out.

Imagine working for some shitty open surce project and then one day that Nazi leader just kicks you out. No thank you. Just gone, because the Nazi leader is a racist piece of shit.

>>717839127
He literally can't, by design, even if he wanted to.

>>717839289
>Loonix can't ban your ass
>they would need a subscription service for that and that doesn't exi_ACK

>>717839443
inb4
>Ubuntroon doesn't count

>>717839546
>they are not mentally ill
>Loonix is just normal people with pronouns and who chop their genitals off

>>717839443
I actually had to google this one.
Apparently its free and its just for long-term support after the normal 5 years LTS if you really don't feel like updating your kernel.
Really weird, never seen anything like that on Arch.

>>717839546
That's opensuse, not ubuntu

>>717839546
I hate zealots so

>>717839848
>just
>I control what they do with their APP STORES
you don't
>OpenSUSE also doesn't count
every
single
time

>>717839964
You really struggle with reading comprehension, do you regularly make up things to get mad at or is this thread a special occasion?

>>717840053
>no arguments
>just trust my m*rxist friends