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Anonymous No.717809705 >>717809836 >>717809998 >>717810105 >>717810524 >>717810567 >>717810706 >>717810770 >>717811668 >>717814320 >>717814620
was she a good or bad boss?
Anonymous No.717809836 >>717809873
>>717809705 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Vbsr3Ko7M
Anonymous No.717809873 >>717809996
>>717809836
>analyse
how do you have a typo in the first second of a video
Anonymous No.717809996 >>717814473
>>717809873
Analyse is correct in British English.
Anonymous No.717809998
>>717809705 (OP)
I really don't like waterfowl dance. I don't care if it's dodgeable, too much of the fight hinges on that one move alone. I took longer on consort radahn and I still preferred it over Melania
Anonymous No.717810105
>>717809705 (OP)
I still think Waterfowl Dance is dumb but everything else is pretty much fine. Even the lifesteal I think is nice, even if it's disproportionately against blocking-focused builds. Every build should be countered at one point or another
Anonymous No.717810519 >>717810575
The worst thing about waterfowl is how fucking stupid it looks, especially the telegraph. Not even the most deranged lorefags can tell you why she just pauses in the air for three seconds. It'd be the stupidest looking move in the game if Maliketh didn't exist.
Anonymous No.717810524 >>717810623
>>717809705 (OP)
>dunks on retards and their jumping attack builds
she's the best
Anonymous No.717810567
>>717809705 (OP)
She was shit, and i beat her twice
Anonymous No.717810575 >>717814516
>>717810519
>It'd be the stupidest looking move in the game if Maliketh didn't exist.
Anonymous No.717810623 >>717810701
>>717810524
There's this whole brand of praise for media that amounts to 'it makes people seethe'. Every time I see it I just assume the thing in question is shit.
Anonymous No.717810701
>>717810623
who asked
Anonymous No.717810706
>>717809705 (OP)
>Everything about her is non issue other than waterfowl and clone attack
Boss getting carried by 2 attacks is not a good boss
Anonymous No.717810770 >>717814326
>>717809705 (OP)
Like everyone else says, Waterfowl dance is pretty much the only thing holding the fight back from being one of the best bosses in the series.
Normally, a move that punishes you for being too close is fine (see Manus's rage move, or Old Demon King's final burst)
But it can't be paired with an insanely short windup time, and enough damage to completely wreck most players if they get caught in it.

Oddly enough, there's a similar move that doesn't have a lot of windup time, and catches you if you're too close, but no one cares. Godrick's tornado attack. it starts with him raising his axe, and in less time than your weapon's wind-down animation, you're taking damage.
The reason no one cares about it is that it barely does any damage, and you get ample opportunity to dodge the second hit of the attack.

If you ask me, the way to fix the Waterfowl dance is to remove all tracking on the first flurry of the attack. Then the easy to figure out strategy would be to run sideways for the first hit, i-frame the second, and stand under her as she overshoots you for the third.
You could also raise up the windup timer significantly to give people a chance to run away even when midrolling, and in the middle of a weapon animation.
Anonymous No.717810784
They made a fairly normal fight except it has one move that purely exists to piss you off and make you realize when it's about to happen. Phase 2 can often be easier than phase 1 because of hoe her aeonia nuke works, it's very punishable and you can basically script the fight since she's guaranteed to do it again around the 30% point or whatever. If you don't do that, she can do two waterfowls back to back if she feels like and then follow those up with her new illusion dance move, so uh...
Anonymous No.717811668
>>717809705 (OP)
I think she's the best fight in the game. I know people dislike waterfowl dance but I don't really mind it much personally.
Anonymous No.717812828 >>717812879
the actual most bullshit move is the roar the red bears in the dlc can do in phase 2 even if it won't kill you at max and just does a lot of damage cause the rest of the moveset rewards staying near him but he can just do this with barely any windup at all.
Anonymous No.717812879 >>717812908
>>717812828
yeah but he's a PvP boss, and you know the "Player" AI in Fromgames is retarded, so just cheese him
Anonymous No.717812908
>>717812879
No I'm talking about the actual red bears. There's only like 2 of them.
Anonymous No.717814320
>>717809705 (OP)
Can you still interrupt her WFD with a freezing pot? Because that's all it made this trashfire bearable.
Anonymous No.717814326
>>717810770
>. Godrick's tornado attack.
i fought him underleveled and that attack is so fucking stupid
Anonymous No.717814452 >>717816302
Since this seems to be the thread to ask, is the Reforged mod any good?
Anonymous No.717814473
>>717809996
anglo eyes
analyse
anal lies
Anonymous No.717814516
>>717810575
This fight is just "Dark Souls but Wrestlemania" and it's fucking great
Anonymous No.717814620
>>717809705 (OP)
her sole purpose was streamer engagement bait.
be prepared for more such fights in future titles.
Anonymous No.717814737 >>717815658 >>717815923
The problem with Melania is that it's trying way too hard to be "the hard boss" but it does so with a single high damage epilectic move that tirns the fight into "figure this one thing out, then you're fine"
compare to Capra Demon, which is just "medium level boss with some dogs in a small room" and has no gimmicks yet is very much the hardest fight in the game if you go in blind and don't overlevel. No "oh I guess that just kills me" move, just mechanics you've seen before but tight and hectic. The satisfaction from beating him is substantially more fulfilling than from doing melania over and over till you get the timing on wfd right, and the skills you pick up (managing enemies, using the environment) stay useful for the rest of the game.
If they just got rid of wfd but upped her healing from attacks it would have been a better fight.
Anonymous No.717815658
>>717814737
When I really think about what bosses stand out as the best (before the DLC, because for the most part they knocked it out of the park there) I think about stuff like Godfrey Phase 1, Leonine Misbegotten, or even Maliketh to an extent.
They're trying to test you, not baffle you, and that's what makes them fun.
Anonymous No.717815923
>>717814737
I really do think more bosses would improve if they were designed around an arena that's not just a Final Destination. Capra Demon, Taurus Demon, and so on are all very memorable thanks to their arena setpieces. The only important bosses in Elden Ring I remember has having notable arenas were phase 1 Rennala and Radahn (but more so the festival theme).
Anonymous No.717816302
>>717814452
Eh. It makes upgrades better but the other changes are meh unless you want to become a deflecter. Convergence is also alright, and Garden of Eyes is shit. Reforged is the best if you just want Elden Ring but with various tweaks and remixes.