Thread 717816086

the d-pad still sucks cock and balls though

>>717816242
>t. snoy
their much better the the garbage "dpads" that snoy shits out

>>717816086 (OP)
The "Do everything" handheld controller is a pipe dream.
If you want a do-everything controller, then you're better off with an input bank, something affixed somewhat securely to a base or desk, like a keyboard or a flightstick, since that means it can be a bit more multifunctional, but still ergonomic.
The current set of controllers, even with better build quality, are a complete meme and have essentially ruined most 3D genres. Gone are the days of trying to make the fun input scheme for the jump man from scratch for the single analog stick controller, now developers are hamstringing themselves by backporting superior mouse and keyboard controls onto much more limited handheld controllers.

The logical progression of handheld controllers was always VR controllers, but that was actively undermined by Microsoft APIs and 360 oriented input schemes that made support much more difficult than it needed to be.

>the year is 2026
>console niggers still haven't invented hall sensors

>>717816407
VR controllers in flatscreen should've been the future.

The chinese are making gamepads much better than your garbage that has the exact same level of build quality, if not less. You could give the Series controller perfectly working gyro and it'd still be just average at best.

>>717816709
>gyrofaggot

>>717816709
name one usecase for gyro
>in before retard says playing fps games with a controller

>>717816758
analog sticks will absolutely never (even capacitive ones) beat gyro, unless you use the crutch known as aim assist.

>>717816330
>snoy
You talk like a faggot, but the Xbox D-Pad is fantastic for fighting games. Total game changer.

>>717816810
>will never beat gyro
at what, you didn't explain faggot

>>717816564
VR mods for UEslop don't even necessarily add motion controls.
Maybe with a bit more refinement for figuring out some idiot-proof common guidelines, it wouldn't be infeasible for every new game to just have a VR display and control mode. If they are already compromising for the standard lowest common denominator controller, then VR isn't much of a stretch.
>>717816758
There is no reason not to complete a controller with gyro and tracking, especially at the extortionate pricepoint of modern first party controllers.
Dual analog just isn't good enough to manage full 3D games unassisted and if that assistance has to come from various software assistance, then the game gets ruthlessly simplified.

>>717816807
Any game where movement and interaction is relative to camera movement. Dual analog can only really manage tank controls unassisted.

>>717817039
name one game that gets improved with gyro controls

>>717816967
at aiming, are you black by any chance?

>>717816086 (OP)
mouse will always be better than analog

>>717817098
>aiming
that's what a mouse is for retard

>>717816086 (OP)
>ASSymmetrical
Nope, fuck right off.
Sticks on top or sticks on bottom, don't care which, but fuck off with with this retard lookin layout.

>>717817126
for some things sure. controller is infinitely better for fluid movement and driving for example. Also gyro aiming is pretty sweet imo

>>717817428
the sony layout is the retarded one, microsoft got it right when they released the first xbox

>>717817574
How very urban of you

>>717817574
There is nothing "right" about the left stick being above the dpad. The placement makes both stick and pad handle worse.
The dpad at the bottom is a major contributing factor to the pad "feeling bad." If the xbone controller put its dpad up top, it would see an improvement just from being in a truly naturally better position, both further forward AND further down against the face of the controller as opposed to the elevated stick.

>>717818227
hey retard, most games use the analog stick to move. Having it on the bottom of the controller would be worse

>>717817632
>>717817428
>sony makes nothing but moviegames where you use the left stick and face buttons
>somehow, the layout where your hands are at a natural resting position on the left stick and facebuttons is "retarded"
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