Thread 717816117

I want to force myself into playing JRPGs because in the recent years I got addicted to high dopamine games like first person shooter, etc. I tried Dragon Quest XI a year ago and got burned out after just a few hours (the repeating music mainly). But I made some nice memories that last to this day which is amazing. It reminded me of the few rpgs I played as a kid that I'm still fond of. So I got to the conclusion that those shitty dopamine addicting games are of no worth and thus I want to get into RPGs again. I'm looking for ones with a great artstyle, music, nice towns and a world to get lost in. Any suggestions?

General consensus is that chrono trigger is the best so no one would object if I told you to play that first

>>717816117 (OP)
Honestly anon, you're in the right mindset already. JRPGs are all about soaking in vibes, not chasing dopamine hits every 10 seconds. If DQXI hooked you even a little, you're definitely not beyond saving. Try easing into it with something like Ni no Kuni-fantastic Ghibli-esque art, beautiful music, and charming towns with that classic JRPG feel. Or maybe Final Fantasy IX, if you're open to PS1 era - it's basically a love letter to the genre. Let yourself chill, take it slow, talk to the NPCs, and appreciate the coziness. You'll detox from FPS brain in no time.

FF7, if you like it, try other FFs like 4 to 10

>>717816117 (OP)
Octopath Traveler

>>717816117 (OP)
You sound like a mindless unthinking normalfag

>>717816117 (OP)
>the repeating music
Pretty much all of Japanese media has this problem (JRPGs with their separate battle screen being the most egregious), the best you can do is turn the music volume down and force yourself to get used to it. Once the music is no longer front and centre and serve its original purpose (as BACKGROUND music) it's fucking great. Try the PS1 era of games--modern ones such as DQXI with their lush, overproduced orchestral music are too in-your-face for you to get lost in

Tales of Symphonia

>>717816117 (OP)
>the repeating music
Are you sure repeating music is the problem and not just that games music? Dragon Quest music is basically the same everywhere and to top it off, the producer is so autistic he doesn't want people from outside Japan to enjoy it.
Really, they had an orchestrated OST while we had fucking midi sounds. It was genuinely the only game in my life where at some point I turned off the music as it physically hurt my ears. So yeah, that game's soundtrack is just notoriously bad

>>717816117 (OP)
I'd say give a try to the old atelier games, they have a nifty feature where you can just make insanely strong bombs by switching around modifiers and you could just mass produce them by harvesting certain elemental clusters

>>717816117 (OP)
Xenoblade series. Literally all you need.

>>717819149
Mod the original pc ver. for real music and real gfx. If you didn't get the original pc ver in time, skill issue

>>717818739
Abyss, Vesperia, Eternia, and Graces are better. Symphonia is one of the weaker entries in the series.

>>717816117 (OP)
>world to get lost in.
If you mean this in the literal sense, then you're going to be disappointed. The genre is painfully linear as a rule because it typically makes for better narrative and the comfiest stories/worlds tend to have more linear plots.
If you mean it literally then combined with the other aspects you're searching for Final Fantasy XII and the Xenoblade games will be your best bet.
If you meant it figuratively, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IV, V, VI, X, Wild Arms 3, and Grandia have what you need.

>>717820173
Symphonia is my least favorite Tales game and I am baffled by its popularity.

>>717820173
filtered

Starocean 2nd cumming remake is 5/5

>>717820217
I think it was one of very few JRPGs on the Gamecube so it got an inordinate amount of attention from people who weren’t Tales fans and may not have even known there were other games in the franchise. I suspect the people who praise it so heavily haven’t actually played any other Tales games.

>>717816117 (OP)
play a ps1 final fantasy, they we're tailor made for people like you, if you struggle with keeping your attention don't jump right in for a dragon quest, save those for later when you can appreciate them

>>717816117 (OP)
>4 niggaz in a row
just play crpg's

>>717820317
It's probably the case. Anyone whose first console was N64 and then got a Gamecube after would have only played Paper Mario and Quest 64 if they even got around to those two and ToS would have been their first traditional JRPG. Maybe they had pokemon on their gameboys. And outside of that and Skies, I remember GC being starved of traditional party-based JRPGs, so for a lot of people I can see it may have been their earliest game where you get the world map, the party, and all that and they had little to compare it to.

>>717816117 (OP)
I'd argue something like the Raidou Kuzunoha games might be a good mix of action and rpg for you. They're kind of scuffed but they're fun, and look better then the old Digital Devil Saga games imho.
Besides, going cold turkey on the dopamine you're expecting might not be the best thing. There's no harm in trying something more along the lines of Xenoblade Chronicals before you try getting into Dragon Quest again.

Just go with FFX op.

>>717819149
>the producer is so autistic he doesn't want people from outside Japan to enjoy it.
What the fuck is his problem?

>>717816117 (OP)
The Persona games are very easy to get into because of the modern setting, but in case you want something more fantasy-like then Final Fantasy X is a great place to start.

>>717820613
He's extremely nationalist. Not necessarily a bad thing, but the music thing is silly.

>>717819149
>>717820613
>>717820804
I thought it was the composer (now dead) and not the producer.

>>717816117 (OP)
bravely default is incredible, i recommend that game. FFX is also fun. most SMT games are decent enough, strange journey was the first one i played to get into the series.

I've been thinking about that newish Saga game recently.

>>717820983
Romancing SaGa 2 Revenge of the Seven?
It's pretty good

>>717816117 (OP)
7th Dragon 2020 and 2020-II
Octopath Traveler 2
Etrian Odyssey 3
Bravely Default
Tales of Phantasia
Stella Glow

>>717820804
There’s nationalism and then there’s exporting an inferior product on purpose out of spite. Even stupider given the music basically repackaged classical music.

>>717819149
that's not true
japan had midi's as well... what are you talking about

>>717819149
Anon. It was the composer who decided to do that since he wanted his concert tickets to sell more.

>>717821084
Oh no the one with the cowgirl and the muslim and cats and robots? Idk what that game is about but it seems wild.

>>717821357
How does that help concert sales?

>>717821480
Oh shit, you mean Emerald Beyond
I'm a big fan of that one, it has a really fun battle system. Just be aware that it's FAR from a traditional JRPG, don't expect the usual stuff and just enjoy the ride.

>>717821525
>DQ fans love DQ music
>popular JP series tend to have concerts in Japan
>composer has the idea to have shitty midis in the game instead of full orchestration like some previous games
>DQ fans will want to go to his concerts for listening to full orchestration
>profit

>>717821828
How does cucking westerners out of the orchestral music help? Or was that just a side effect?

>>717821896
Anon. We're saying that the original JP version was also cucked.

>>717821896
>>717821949
So yes, obviously, westerners were cucked as a side effect since why would they even bother with remaking the music at all since the intended audience was in Japan.
Orchestrals replaced them with the Definitive Edition later on.

>>717821896
>cucking westerners
why are you so obsessed with being cucked? kek

>>717822052
>implying I’m not a composer imagining myself as the bull in this scenario

>>717820541
Seconding Raidou especially the first game cause it's also relatively short excluding any kind of optional stuff. I finished it twice and both playthrough clocked in at around 30 ish hours and even then I did some dicking around. Should be a nice warm up before bigger JRPGs.

>>717816117 (OP)
Entry-level JRPGs I'd recommend to a beginner

>Chrono Trigger
>Dragon Quest 3, 8 or 11
>Final Fantasy 6, 7, 10, Tactics
>Shin Megami Tensei 3 and 4
>Persona 3, 4, 5
>Tales of Vesperia, Symphonia
>Grandia 1 and 2
>Xenogears and Xenoblade 1
>Trails in the Sky trilogy
>Suikoden 1 and 2

>>717822490
What would you recommend to an advanced player?

>>717816117 (OP)
How about you fuck your dopamine receptors permanently and play Disgaea

>>717822663
>How about you brick your console permanently and play Disgaea
ftfy

>>717822663
How bout no you dutch bastard

>>717822660
>ancient roman
kek

>>717822660
>beyond the beyond
>quest 64
>tales of the tempest
Is the joke that they're bad?

>>717822490
>Tactics
TA>>>>>>tactics

>>717821480
Just a little wild.

>>717822490
Where the fuck is Rune Factory

>>717822660
You forgot Hoshigami: Ruining the Blue Earth

>>717824338
Really want to try this someday. How is rs1 remake?

>>717824734
>How is rs1 remake?
Romancing SaGa 1 Remake is Minstrel Song on PS2 (which did get a Remaster a year or two ago)
Romancing SaGa 2 Revenge of the Seven is the brand new one that just came out
Both good in their own way, but RS2 Revenge of the Seven is way more beginner friendly

>>717816117 (OP)
The PS1 Final Fantasy games.