Thread 717828105

What is this company's fucking deal? Why are they so hostile?

Is it about brand control? Spite?

>>717828105 (OP)
They're an evil corporation, nothing new

>>717828105 (OP)
literally every company in japan does that, it's not just nintendo

>>717828105 (OP)
imagine having a 5-year-old daughter and a bunch of trannies kidnap her and start gangraping her
then you'll understand how it feels to have your franchises raped and murdered to please an ever spectacle-hungry degenerate audience

>>717828343
then how come the article isn't about every company in japan doing it, just nintendo specifically?

I'm trying to think logically from Nintendo's point of view.
>Nintendo is given the list of games to approve as instructed
>Nintendo approves each game that is currently for sale or is on Switch's online virtual console service, as these games are effectively free advertising.
>"....Super Mario Galaxy 2"
>NOT APPROVED!!!

>>717828423
because journos hate nintendo the most

Maybe they just dont want their child friendly brand to be associated with trannys.

>>717828105 (OP)
Whatever it is it clearly works

>>717828594
Far too late for that

>>717828105 (OP)
Based. Fuck speendrun trannies.

>>717828105 (OP)
Then ask for permission? I don't see the problem.

>>717828587
RTA in japan is currently playing Haunting Grounds on the PS2, how come Sony and Capcom haven't blocked them, hmm?!?

>>717828423
Anti-Nintendo bias

>>717828716
they got permission

>>717828594
>wait until there is money to be made before you shriek and cry that fake pokemon are real pokemon
nintendo is already behaving like trannies. opportunistic kickers of wasps nests that cry foul if it harms them at all.

>>717828664
Clearly not since theyre leashing down the troon events

>>717828105 (OP)
They probably don't want to be associated with trannies

>>717828587
I thought they hated square Enix the most? They can't stop writing articles about se raping kitties

>>717828687
>just walk up to the corner Nintendo payphone and ask 'can we play ur games at my party', and they'll let you know

this event has used nintendo games for years and the notification that they could no longer do that happened in the eleventh hour of this year's event planning.
if you had any sense of how the world operates, you'd know that 'getting permission' for this kind of shit is a lengthy and expensive legal process only hollywood is capable of dealing with

>>717828594
maaan visiting the Playtest hub last night really fucking sucked
I'm so sick of those "people"

>>717828790
What does your schizo posting about another situation have to do with this thread? Nobody cares about your palworld sloppa. Talk about why Nintendy should or shouldnt dab on trannoids.

>>717828391
I don’t think that’s a good comparison at all.

>troons playing your products to promote their event without your permission.

I fail to see how Nintendo is the bad one here. If they let them away with this is it sets a legal precedent to allow any tranny to do this in future.

Nintendo are 100% correct here and I rarely say that.

I'm trying to think of something analogous to this behavior. The whole "only WE get to decide how people enjoy our stuff," mentality.

Vince McMahon, maybe?

>>717828893
>this event has used nintendo games for years and the notification that they could no longer do that happened in the eleventh hour of this year's event planning.
Maybe they should have gotten permission this time.

>>717828716
They got permission from Capcom, you mongrel.

>>717829141
It's called "normal behavior".

>>717828105 (OP)
When you’re on top you hire the best lawyers
When you hire the best lawyers, they ask for heavy compensation
With such compensation these lawyers constantly look for shit they can pretend requires action to justify their salaries

>>717829386
In reality you have to protect your trademarks and copyrights or the lack of doing so could potentially effect the result of future cases.

>>717828947
my reply was directed at a single post that claimed nintendo was distancing themselves from trans shit. not the thread's OP or subject in general. Nintendo behaved like trannies when they ignored palworld trailers and promos for years, and then only acted once it was potentially profitable to do so. simple as.

for next time, if you click on the numbers in my post it will show you the post i was replying to, and it's contents. if you need more help using this site maybe check out the 4chan subreddit.

>>717829367
Guess you have no problems with online IDs and payment processors deciding what you can and can''t buy. It is normal behavior after all.

>>717829051
Do you feel proud of yourself when you type this retarded shit out and post it

>>717828993
true
in the end a kid is just a kid
Nintendo's rich cultural history took thousands of people and millions of hours to culminate

>>717829293
>walk to the store like you do every other day
>get struck in the kneecaps by a store employee once you step inside
>he informs you that only their gold member customers are allowed to use the main entrance
>say you've always been using this entrance until now and there was no warning anything was changing or had changed and you didn't even know about a membership
>'should have chosen to be a member earlier i guess'

>>717828105 (OP)
>is it about brand control
i'd hazard a guess that this is *kinda* the case
you gotta think, nintendo's biggest assets are their intellectual property - they already kinda ran the risk of losing the trademark to their name due to genericisation law in america, so i can imagine it being at least partially a "we have to proactively protect our IP from exploitation to prove that we're asserting ownership over it, because if mario even has an inkling of a chance of entering the public domain then we're completely and utterly fucked"
this isn't me trying to suck them off or anything tho it's just a shot in the dark

>>717829545
You consider third parties intervening in places they shouldn't normal behavior? Yeesh.

>>717829519
yeah if you're a little guy. if you're a big player like nintendo you can ignore potential damages to your trademarks for as many years as you like before deciding it's worth the time and effort to attack.

anyone else would have been told "why wasn't the very clear promotional material enough to indicate a problem?" but nintendo are the jews of japan and grease as many palms as they have to

>>717828391
>how do I make this about my pedophile and transexual fetish?

>>717829759
>if you're a little guy.
If you're anyone anon. Don't forget that trademark case McDonald's lost to a small Irish chain.
In fact the longer you leave something the higher the chance it can be used against you.

>why wasn't the very clear promotional material enough to indicate a problem
Do you even know what you're talking about right now?

>>717828105 (OP)
I just love them more and more every time, I got the Wii U out of curiosity back in the day now I'm a full tendie, the games are just good and have that quality that makes you get invested.

>>717829885
yes. palworld had trailers clearly showing not-pokemon being caught with not-pokeballs, YEARS before release, and those trailers were discussed to death online. mcdonalds is structured FAR differently from nintendo.

>>717828423
Because Nintendo gets them clicks which gets them ad revenue. There's nothing complicated about it.

You have to understand that a lot of Japanese companies are anal-retentive about their trademarks. There's a reason a lot of their TV shows have explicit brand sponsor segments, as well as displaying trademarks in one of the corner for licensed content being shown.

>>717828105 (OP)
Yes

>>717830406
jap tv has always had shit on the screen and shows chopped into segments, their populace accepts it, so the companies milk it as much as possible.

Anybody else getting Nintendo fatigue?

nintendo please ban talking about your products on forums the site would improve so much

>>717828105 (OP)
>speedrunning event
I'm no longer mad at Nintendo.

>>717830625
>support literally anything as long as someone somewhere is getting mad about it

What is this behavior called and why is 4chan so prone to it?

>>717828105 (OP)
Japanese Disney.

>>717830553
>watch a food show
>no one says anything negative ever about the food, even if their bodily reaction is it's gross/bitter

>>717830245
>palworld had trailers clearly showing not-pokemon being caught with not-pokeballs, YEARS before release
Except it didn't. The balls and objecting throwing mechanic weren't present in the first trailer for Palworld or any trailer before the initial December 2021 filing date for their patent. Even then the trailer for PLA, which focused on that mechanic, dropped months before Palworld's.
Also thank you for confirming that you have no idea what this conversation is about since that case is covered by patent.
>mcdonalds is structured FAR differently from nintendo.
Irrelevant. The functionality of IP law doesn't change based on sector

>>717830586
>Nintendo bans discussion
>anti-tendies turn on pc begging third parties to ban everything.

They’re extremely protective of their brand image. This has always been the case.

Nintendo doesn’t want anyone other than themselves to define how people play their games or engage with their IPs. They’ve loosened up on it slightly over the years, but it’s still very much their MO.

Do I know WHY they do it? No

>>717828105 (OP)
They haven't made a new game in years.

>>717828105 (OP)
NOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN WHOLESOME JAPANESE SPEEDRUNNING EVENT

>>717828105 (OP)
I mean speedrunning is pretty fucking gay I can see not wanting to be associated with it.

>>717828105 (OP)
the sad truth is that not even nintendo likes tendies. they're a very annoying fan base.

>>717830956
>Do I know WHY they do it? No
Sure you do. It's called IP law and everyone with one has to abide by similar defend or it ends rulings.

>>717829750
>In places they shouldn't?
It's their legal right to restrict someone's ability to purchase your disgusting steam AI slop games.

>>717830709
opinions?

>>717831373
Okay, how is it their legal right to intervene between two consenting parties.

>>717831260
It goes way beyond protecting the IP, into "YOU HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT EXACTLY AS WE DECIDE, YOU CAN NEVER OWN IT, AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS." Keep in mind the film industry has countless consumer protection laws for physical purchases because Hollywood already tried this with theaters.

>>717829646
Japan don't have fair use. And asking Nintendo permission is actually super easy, if a vtuber with 1k subscribers can do it so is big company like RTA Japan

>>717831526
Maybe you should read those terms you bitch about and see, troon. It's not difficult to do your own due diligence. In fact, burden of proof dictates you should know more about this than I. Why are you asking me the questions?

>>717831526
Because you are using their infrastructure for it. Build your own or bend over.

I care very much about things I'm not involved in or intend to view in any way as long as it fits my agenda

>>717828105 (OP)
Perms are the most common thing in Japan, anyone running a supposedly official event there would know about securing them first

>>717828105 (OP)
Have they forgotten that they tried this when lets plays became big and went back on it because denying free advertising is retarded?

Why are grown men fervently defending le hecking faggot monkey game

>>717831569
Heads up anon, that's protrcting the IP. You can use your "I AM SILLY" arguments as much as you like but it's not going to change the facts. Also
>AND YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS.
Having some rights doesn't mean you have all the rights.

>Keep in mind the film industry has countless consumer protection laws for physical purchases because Hollywood already tried this with theaters.
And you still need a licence to show movies in a public setting, just like games.

>>717831837
Japan have their own rules dumbass, everything needs explicit permissions

>>717831410
Opinions should be rooted in conviction, not held explicitly because doing so generates a reaction.

>>717831837
They never walked that back. They issue thousands of copyright claims and DMCAs per day, anon.

>>717831638
>>717831701
In other words, you can't explain how. You just want to bend over for your corporate overlords and have them prevent you from spending your hard earned money they way you want.
No wonder you're advocating for Online IDs to be the norm.

>>717828594
>splatoon
>ac
>Mario Odyssey
>zelda
>DKB

>>717831917
If I physically purchase a game, then you legally should be required to give me full access to all its features in an offline format. Same goes for if I digitally purchase a game for download. There is no reasonable excuse beyond pure sophistry that will convince me otherwise. Especially not when the argument is worded in such a desperate, sperg-like manner.

>>717832030
>Le heckin Karl Marx of videogayme!
Topkek yea anon. Let us know how the people's gaming revolution is going in six months

>>717832030
>nintendo has the right to dictate how you use their games because i like them
>payment processors don't have the same rights over use of infrastructure they built and maintained because i don't like them

>>717832084
>There is no reasonable excuse beyond pure sophistry that will convince me otherwise.
How about the fact that you're talking about something completely different?
How did you even get to content in game from IP law anyway? It's like you're so desperate to be right that you're pulling out everything regardless of it making sense as an argument.

That or you're just paid to do this and don't quite understand English enough to know what you're posting.

>>717832403
So are you saying the payment processors own your money now?

>>717832084
Wut.
What does any of that have to do with getting a licence for public use?

>>717828343
Just had a quick glance at the schedule and noticed Capcom and Square Enix games being run

>>717828105 (OP)
Legal department being so far out of touch with the rest of the company.

Nintendo hate is sponsored by Ubitroonsoft and EA jews
If you hate Japanese companies - you support BLM, jews and LGBTQ+

Everything in this post was factchecked and is true

>>717828105 (OP)
a lot of japanese are zealots that think online piracy is a capital crime

>control? Spite?
Both, the creator of smash for example was livid at the pro scene in melee, he made the wii version shittier on purpose with the tripping mechanic to prevent pro scenes. Then when people put Subspace Emissary videos on youtube had a hissy fit about it.

>>717828105 (OP)
>speedtrooners
And nothing of value was lost.

>>717830709
Being a faggot.

>>717828105 (OP)
Nintendo is based. They don't want their IPs to lose value from being broadcasted for millions to see

>>717832613
Given Nintendo's propensity for idiosyncrasy in the name of "the Nintendo way" I'm inclined it's a much broader corporate culture issue.

eric won

>>717832607
They asked capcom and square enix permission

>>717832532
They own ways you can spend your money digitally, you can always use cash.

Nintendo boys we're going all the way to the bank

>>717828105 (OP)
it's about power. Nintendo power

>>717833549
>free advertisement

>>717828423
Because you see, journos, who give every Nintendo title an automatic 10/10, and place 8 Nintendo titles in their Top 10 of all time, ackchually hate Nintendo. Quasimodo predicted all this.

>>717836190
most game journos are dei hires ans have video games in the first place. they activists who didn't get hired for the the Washington post

>>717836183
They don't need that, they're the only ones making fun games anymore, gamers come to them, not the other way around.

>>717836190
based quasimodo sad he had to die

>>717836279
>hates video games

speedrunners are all unfriendly losers with massive ego issues, I don't care if their "career" disapear overnight.

>>717836301
for me it's the other way around. they were the last bastion, but not anymore.

>>717836364
bananza is good, and switch 2 is good because it's a game library you can take with you anywhere. If you visit your friend, you take your switch 2 with you and play all those games at your friend's place. You can do the same with Steam library because they don't have co-op

It's about brand control.

Back in the day it didn't matter about all the shitty Mario/Zelda parodies and flash fangames because they were just non profit and legitimately shit.

Nowadays there are tools to build better games, and people generally make money off it via "donations" and other loopholes because they're greedy. If these go too wild, it could damage Nintendo, so they protect them by shutting them down.

I know people think it's a shitty thing to do, but every company does it. If not everything would have bootlegs using the names/brands.

>>717836343
nah there are some cool speed runners out there that aren't fucking gay. they're not well known mostly because they don't align themselves with trooning out

>>717828343
[citation needed]

>>717828105 (OP)
can we get Nintendo to sue GDQ next?

>>717836471
if I want to buy game keys I'll stick with steam and gog. I only liked Nintendo because they actually had physical games.

>>717836502
that would be hilarious

I'm okay with this because it disproportionately affects trannies the most

>>717836552
Funny game keys are suddenly a problem when PC gamers have been buying nothing but digital exclusively for 20 years. Obviously you buy the games on switch 2 digital too, don't be silly.

>>717836687
you don't know how PCs work do you?

>use another company’s brand as promotional material
>become surprised when they rebuke and demand asking for permission first

>>717834390
why didnt they ask Nintendo then if they asked everyone else? its standard procedure

>>717836687
I won't be buying a switch 2 ever. I'll continue to build my switch 1 library up

>>717836767
I've been gaming since shareware era, and you're bold enough to tell me I don't know how PCs work?

>>717836823
Yeah, and all those games will work better on my Switch 2. Games like hyrule warriors, One piece 3, these games get boost from Switch 2, since it has actual hardware this time around

They ran out of ideas 17 years ago, and just started attacking everything and making things worse intentionally, like the democratic party.

>>717836946
you such a lying shill faggot

>>717836183
Best case scenario yes, but if a "Princess Peach gets brutally raped" fangame gets made, gains traction on social media and is actually good and indistinguishable from what Nintendo makes in game quality then for obvious reasons that can damage their brand.

They are hard on fangames, because they want to keep absolute control over it, in case something goes off the rails popular like that. Of course I'm exaggerating with the hentai game, but my point is a fangame might give messages that aren't in Nintendo's family friendly image.

>>717836946
how much do they pay you for damage control?

HOLY BASED FUCK SPEEDRUNNERS

>>717837010
I'm not, the last PC games I bought physical were arma 2, some race on 07 sttc game, and maybe some shitty need for speed game. Literally 20 fucking years ago, and 2 of those 3 games were steam cd-keys, they weren't real games anymore, I can't go to a store buy a physical copy of DK2 or NWN1 like I could back in the day

>>717837051
I agree it's about "Nintendo power of attorney"

>>717836687
Game keys are a bigger problem on a platform like consoles where Nintendo has bricked your shit since the wii in 2005 than on pc where you can just crack your shit.
Either you own your data or you don't and this plastic worshipping cult shit implies the latter.

>>717837092
It's not damage control, I'm just here giving cold hard truth that running console games on higher FPS is not the equivalent of PC gaming. PC ceased getting games after 2007

>>717837174
you stupid fucking faggot. do you even now how to use your pc, how to use iso files, or what a virtual console is?

>>717837247
only retards say this

Its not 2001 or 2006 anymore. Its time to let nintendo go their last good console was 20 years ago. Maybe the 3ds if you wanna count handhelds but thats still over 10 years ago.

>>717828105 (OP)
SEO management. I don't (want to) know about the troonship situation in nipponland, but I, too, wouldn't want to see my products associated with Mischwesen.

>>717837387
No, game is more than graphics. The gameplay of every game has deteriorated because the publishers go "hey lets aim at consoles to get higher number of sales" "cool, lets design the game with consoles in mind, so a black kid with x360 controller can play it, so easy up on teh menus and make combat easy so it doesn't require any thinking". We say morrowind is honorary xbox port, because it's the last elder scrolls game that was designed for PC in mind, and because despite being a PC game it's such a good game to have on your xbox collection. Nowdays, you don't have games like that anymore, they're designed with a game controller in mind, and that's why everything is so much downhill. That's why PC gaming died, and that's why crysis 2 and 3 are far worse games than crysis 1 was.

Think of it like this.

Nintendo have released a successful family friendly semi-rebrand of their Donkey Kong IP. It's become very popular, and parents will buy the silly monkey smashing game for their kids and maybe play it themselves because it's fun. All fits within Nintendo's brand, and they're making profits.

Now if someone, using the 3D models of the game, and the multitude of tools nowadays to do it competently decide they want to make a foot fetish game with Pauline, with her tied up and you have to use a multitude of things to tickle/lick/who knows what her feet. They do it very well, and are creative enough to keep it looking within the confines of the game's world.

Game gets all over social media, kids start downloading it, then it makes the news because the new Donkey Kong Foot Fetish game corrupting youth or whatever other drama it can escalate into.

Parents now associate Nintendo with a perverted game that has nothing to do with them, but it doesn't matter because it's their brand. Parents stop buying their kids Nintendo shit, and forever associate Donkey Kong with a foot fetish that was exposed to their kid.

Nintendo lose money, and reputation.

I know it seems extreme but things like that can escalate in today's world. Nintendo (and any other company with strong family branding) understandably fear it and want to keep it under control, as it could so easily go off the rails if they let it.

>>717837659
>tl;tr

>>717837659
remember when planet elderscrolls was awesome before those European faggot lovers turned into into nexus+

>>717828105 (OP)
Yeah, brand control - but Nintendo has a huge issue with the "devaluing" of their brand. They see how classic movies become public domain, and that terrifies them. They want complete control of access to their vidya so unofficial markets don't overtake access to their old releases. Another side of this was when in the 80s/90s, Nintendo had a campaign to fight against the idea of calling generic videogame consoles as "Nintendos" because this would allow their ownership to potentially slip away.

It's the same reason why all their releases basically stay the same price despite a generation or two passing, or why they sold games on virtual console for such expensive prices.

based Niggertendo dabbing on speedtrannies

>>717830813
>No one says anything negative about the food
Bro
>Jaime Oliver makes shit ass food
>People take only one bite and compliment it.
>Good food has people going for several bites.
They imply it. They don't have to say it.
>>717831213
This.

>>717837051
I'm still gonna bust to Zone Midna and Legend of Krystal and NINTENDO CAN'T STOP IT

>>717836183
Nintendo's name alone is advertisement enough for most people these days.

>>717828105 (OP)
Shitting on speedrunners is based

>>717828105 (OP)
Huh
>Initial response from the company was "we forgot to apply for permission" so we cant stream nintendo games
Now
>NINTENDO WARNED US AND WE HAD TO STOP
So which is it?

>>717828105 (OP)
It's a business thing. They need a paper trail, due to issues with rebroadcasts and especially advertising during rebroadcasts. They don't want their shit monetized without their permission. It's a 100% logical reason. No one should be making money off your shit without your permission

>>717836687
I'll buy a Switch 2 when I can jailbreak it and make backups so I never lose access to the games then :)

>>717828105 (OP)
Nintendo has always been like this, but it’s been ramped up 200% because of new management being the most stereotypical Japanese corpos around. Before half of management was still game designer nerds who worked on the ground floor and wanted to make a unique and enjoyable product. It’s now entirely “shareholder value” maximizing most profit for least effort company. Trust me, when Miyamoto/Aunoma die it will get even worse because they won’t be there to even attempt to save the IPs.from rape. Enjoy your Mario/Zelda season passes, rereremakes (only $80) and Switch 2 Pro ($600, Oled Screen)

>>717841943
The people streaming the game have purchased the system, game, controller, and potentially the online pass in order to play the game. Nintendo made money on every single transaction. They are just being money hungry nips

>>717828105 (OP)
Here's hoping they enforce thisnim the west as well. I want nothing more than the death of all modern speed runners

>>717828105 (OP)
>What is this company's fucking deal?
reminder the about a hundred years ago Nintendo was a yakuza affiliated company .

>>717842803
You're an idiot.

>>717842658
so basically the same story as boeing?

>>717828105 (OP)
It should be mentioned that this was also a charity event. So now, the charity is getting less money because of Nintendo.

>>717842979
and your a retard who thinks a company should own every facet of anything they produce and only defend it because you like the taste of Nintendo cum and want to “own the trannies”

Last time I checked I’m allowed to review food I purchase, show it in video, and shit it out in any toilet or area I can’t be arrested in. I haven’t received a cease and desist from McDonalds for not shitting out a Big Mac in a McDonalds authorized toilet. If I show a video of me vacuuming my house is Dyson going to sue me because they are losing YouTube revenue?

>>717842803
Right. So I can go buy a BluRay of any given movie, then broadcast it on my streaming service for millions to watch. Because I spent $12.99 on the movie, that gives me the right to charge everyone else $13.99/month to watch the movie. I bought it, after all. Makes sense. Totally.

Nintendo was found out supporting the censorship. They love it because they can fill people in their cucked brand for manchildren and eliminate competition.

>>717843294
>NoA
Who cares?

>>717843278
Except YouTube/Twitch aren’t a pay per view service numbnuts. In this specific case it’s even a free charity event and donations received are going to a qualified non profit organization. Also ignoring that a game being played is a unique experience as there is human input, unlike a recorded piece of media. Give me an example of someone charging any amount of money to even watch someone play a specific Nintendo game. I want to see the guy on twitch requiring $10-$15 per viewer to stream donkey Kong bananza

>>717828105 (OP)
because of tranny nigger lovers LIKE YOU OP

>>717843294
It's because some guy in japan actually abused kids IRL through swapnote

>>717828105 (OP)
>Hates speedtrannies
>Hates compfags
>Hates their retarded shareholders
>Hates obnoxious zoomer piratevegans
>Hates their retarded western "fans"
>Hates devs that do not possess the glorious and superior Nintendo genotype
How can one company be this based?

>>717846647
>Still has the audacity to sell eight-year old games for $60
Nah fuck Nintendo

>>717828105 (OP)
They changed in the last 5-10 years, really odd to see.
Its the power and the high of winning in this moment. after their sort of so-so hardware failures of the 90s. (even though the gameboy color and n64 was peak tech wise)

>>717847621
If people are still buying it at full price, why lower it?

It’s every company’s right to ban streaming of their games. They don’t have a license and they never contacted the copyright holders for permission. This isn’t just a Japanese thing, and anyone against this does not understand the law

RTA didn't want to play ball with Nintendo to stream speedrun of their games so they chose not to include any Nintendo games. Wow, it's fucking nothing. You losers realize that ALL of these events involving large IPs have to have permission from dozens if not hundreds of vendors/people, right? Journalists need to rope themselves for writing useless pieces like this.

>>717828423
just here to remind you you're not crazy and shills are defending this insanity.

>>717849343
Standard practices are hardly insanity.

>>717828105 (OP)
Wow, who could have forseen that the japanese corporation well known to have ties to the yakuza might be evil.

>>717828105 (OP)
You need to ask for permission, they didn't.

>>717847621
You want to know why they can do that and no one minds?
No excessive dlc.

>>717849592
>well known to have ties to the yakuza
You know they don't actually have ties to the yakuza right?

If Nintendo is the main protagonist of video games, Eric (OP) is the main villain.

Japanese Culture, they dont like having to deal with a Western Adult millennial fanbase

>>717828105 (OP)
You obviously know nothing about Japanese media.

>>717850647
lol nah
He's the shitty low single digit level mobs that pop up endlessly in useless random encounters.
Slime-tier, basically.

>>717828587
Journalists suck Nintendo's uncut tiny Japanese dicks all the time. What the fuck are you on? The reason why everyone's been talking about Nintendo's legal scandals recently is because it was the first time most Nintendo fanboys have finally managed to get their heads out of their asses long enough to realize what a shitty, manipulative, monopolistic company they've been this entire time. And even now people are still simping for the Switch 2 for some reason.

>>717853140
>Journalists suck Nintendo's uncut tiny Japanese dicks all the time.
wrong

Nintendo is very protective of their IPs so of course they will do whatever it takes to avoid their games becoming a hub for a community of autists and transvestites.

>>717828343
This is actually the opposite of true, most Japanese companies allow a ton of fan content, unlicensed merch and stuff for free promotion.

Nintendo and Disney are the biggest sticklers for copyright laws in the world because they are the biggest purely media companies. They own their brand and IPs and that's all, and they are some of the most profitable IPs to the point where Mario can make a billy on a low effort movie, think about how valuable that is, that's way more profitable than ANY anime for example. But that's Nintendo's game, profit as much as possible on their exclusive brands so they don't have to invest in good technology. Disney does it too.

>>717849160
>You losers realize that ALL of these events involving large IPs have to have permission from dozens if not hundreds of vendors/people, right?
That's only the case in Japan because Japanese intellectual property law is insane. They have no doctrine of fair use out there, so fan art and other transformative works aren't protected unless explicit permission is given. Last I heard it wasn't even possible to intentionally waive copyright interests in an original work - the state literally won't let you, because they think they know better than you.

The thing is, most media companies understand that these IP laws are fucking stupid and tacitly allow fan culture to thrive anyway because they understand that it's good for business, and a lot of artists understand that it's good for the preservation of their work. Nintendo does not. They will find any loophole or gray area in any legal system in order to snipe fan works, because they're jealous and monopolistic and they think they have the right to dictate how you experience their games. Japan just makes it easy for them by not having a concept of fair use. And they get away with it because no matter how many peoples' lives and livelihoods they ruin, they will always have an army of simpering fanboys who are still willing to give them money. That's why people were lining up to make the Switch 2 Nintendo's fastest-selling console mere weeks after a huge scandal broke out over their abuse of Japanese patent laws to try and financially strangle Pocketpair.

This thread was made by Eric. QRD on him:
>Textbook definition snoy/PCfag
>Massive OoT fanboy. Hates BoTW and ToTK for "killing Zelda"
>Loses his shit when any sales figures are brought up
>Cubie that hates the Switch 1 and 2
>Believes Melee is the best Smash and seethes at Ultimate
>Shilled the Steam Deck before it crashed and burned
>Aggressively pro-piracy and pro-emulation
>His ultimate plot is to gaslight other retards into turning on Nintendo and the Switch

>>717852514
He single-handedly leads the entire anti-Switch 2 gaslighting campaign. He's the main villain even if he's no less retarded.

>>717828391
>imagine ha-
yeah i dont think i will, actually

>>717828105 (OP)
CFO gets fucking furious any time they realize there are finances running loose outside of the companies copyrights, and they have like 10 times a law firm employed to secure that all the laws are technically upheld.

>>717854623
>Aggressively pro-piracy and pro-emulation
I'm not seeing the issue

If someone used me or my property to make money off of me without my permission I would do the same

>>717855437
I do.

>>717855437
tendies are /v/ are unironically some of the craziest fanboys i've ever seen

>>717843278
Inherit value of video game comes from playing the game though, it is a software, not movie.
Your comparison would stand if they were sharing around pirated copies of the game while streaming it, but that's not what they are doing are they.

>>717855437
Probably because you're a retarded snoy

>>717828105 (OP)
>Why are they so hostile?
Why are speedtrannies so hostile?

>>717855492
>NOOOO WHAT ABOUT THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS????

>>717828105 (OP)
>no more Nintendo speedruns
RTA in Japan has officially become the best speedrun event to watch.

>>717843671
>Except YouTube/Twitch aren’t a pay per view service numbnuts.
They absolutely are. Every add that pops up, either on the page or in the video, is that content being monetized. This is not difficult to understand. At all. You're just retarded.

>>717855972
>Thinks small channels get ad revenue

>>717855818
Being pro piracy and emulation makes me a snoy?

>>717828105 (OP)
Speedrunners abuses glitches and bugs in order to get speedrunning times. Nintendo doesnt like the fact that they openly broadcast glitches which gives them a bad reputation for releasing games with them. It's as simple as that.

>>717828105 (OP)
Doesn’t this fall under “fair usage”? And yes, it should since Nintendo is invoking US copyright law.

>>717841943
>when my opponent in the bootlicker competition is a nintendo fan

>>717854623
Yeah but is he wrong though?

>>717855492
>muh property
Intellectual property isn't real, anon. It's a legal fiction that was invented to promote monopolies and legitimize state censorship. It's not possible to own an idea, there are just state apparatuses that have been erected in order to promote and exploit the collective fantasy that it is. If you were in Nintendo's position, you would be losing exactly what Nintendo is: Nothing but the cost of paying lawyers to stifle other peoples' freedom of expression.

>>717856083
Does Japan have fair use laws?

>>717856083
Fair use doesn't exist in Japan.

>>717828105 (OP)
A mixture of Japanese autism and not wanting to cede any control over their products or IP's ever. I don't personally care because Nintendo games are usually boring as fuck but it makes sense for them financially. If anything it would be retarded for them to not protect their IP's in this way. Sony and Msoft both fucked that up, Sony wasn't even able to keep Crash as a mascot beyond 1 generation.

>>717856083
>Doesn’t this fall under “fair usage”?
No. Japan doesn't recognize the concept of fair usage and neither does Nintendo.
>it should since Nintendo is invoking US copyright law.
No, they're talking about RTA Japan, which falls under Japanese jurisdiction.

>>717856164
Fair use sometimes exists in Japan

ATTENTION ALL SNOY TROLLS: Counter-trolling operations have begun. We will NOT show mercy.

>>717829747
Yeah it's this. Nintendo dies overnight if it loses Mario and Zelda etc.

>>717828105 (OP)
>What is this company's fucking deal? Why are they so hostile?

They hired ex-EA executive to run their shit.

>>717831837
To be fair, I've never played a bunch of games because I just watched them instead. David Cage ones mostly.

>>717829747
>>717856315
this is the dumbest fucking legal myth that gets parroted. you do not lose the rights to something because you didn't sue enough speedrunning events, it doesn't work like that

>>717856292
>ATTENTION PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH ON THE INTERNET: I have started vocally disagreeing with you on the Internet. This is serious business!

them shitting on melee fags was the funniest thing ever, too bad they don't that much anymore

>>717828343
SEGA

>>717849692
>>717849692
>>717849692
THIS
they give you a full fucking functional game with no shit patches in the middle of the game spawn (Except Gamefreak)
you play videogames to play and have fun, not to get fucked by having patches

>>717832845
Take a shower and stay away from Kids. Smelee is the most overrated most broken game out there and the fact that you made a guy kill himself shows how shitty the compfag scene is. Based Brawl will continue to make you seethe

>>717828594
Maybe they should do something about their primary audience being manchildren interested in playing games for nonverbal learning toddlers or stop making games aimed at the small minority of their audience

>>717828423
because of Nintendo Derangement Syndrome

>>717856548
Meleefags shit on themselves constantly. Look at what they did with Hax$ and Mang0

>>717856103
>Intellectual property isn't real, anon
Just checked and it is real, and it is a fact about the society we live in.

>>717856292
This but unironic

>>717828748
There's no evidence of this it's just speculation. Poorly founded at that.

Nintendo is the Apple of gaming.
Never forget this.

>>717858631
Nintendo is the Nintendo of gaming.

>>717858213
Anon, I can write a dissertation about how the government needs to use taxpayer funding to subsidize the preservation of purple elephants and pay a bunch of universities to use it in their curricula, but even if I successfully manage to pass a bill through Congress and convince 300 million people that such taxpayer funding would be worthwhile, that wouldn't change the fact that purple elephants don't exist. Do you understand that concept or do you require me to gather a social consensus to confirm that purple elephants aren't real?

>>717828893
>>717829646
Even small streamers regularly get permission in Japan. It's how their IP laws work. RTA is more than big enough to know better here.

>>717830956
There are very specific rules that nintendo has for streaming their games on the Japanese website that it mentions.. You cannot combine it with porn. You cannot hijack their brand and use it to promote yourself. You cannot use emulation, so TASes are probably screwed. You cannot use it for politiics.

Shit like chanting for trans rights, and showing dead gazans for MSF are probably going to break those rules.

>>717832607
You realize that for many japanese companies, this is an automated tool for aproval? Nintendo and Persona games are not quite as fast and smooth.

>>717859184
I'm well aware that IP is an intangible thing and needs legal documents to validate and protect it. Are you saying this is inherently wrong and illogical? You can just check the constitution and bill of rights to verify that intangible things like rights are validated and protected all the time.

>>717843671
The payment per view doesn't matter. Nintendo would take down, say a large enough japanese onlyfans star playing their game on channel.

>>717849160
And presumably RTA will get permission next year.

>>717856083
RTA is japanese. N is not invoking US copyright laws.

In the US, this would probably fall under fair use, HOWEVER, Nintendo has had US events shut down, like some Melee tournaments and streams, which used emulators.

>>717859184
What even is this post? It's the most retarded thing I've ever read in my life.

>>717860004
Absolutely not. Property rights in general are intangible. The difference is that there's an easy-to-follow chain of logic for why property rights are good and necessary, and why your right to protect them needs to be recognized. There is no such philosophical consistency to the concept of intellectual property. Again, the concept that you can own an idea is an intrinsic absurdity. That's why it didn't exist for the vast majority of human history, and even today only exists at the insistence of bureaucrats who believe that they deserve to get paid any time someone overhears a song someone else wrote that they own the distribution license for.

>>717860415
>In the US, this would probably fall under fair use,
No, I mean, you're referencing the smash streams but the only one taken down for emulation was that slippi one. Everything else was on real hardware but much like in Japan, and every civilized country, you need a licence in America to play a game in a public setting ie a stadium of some kind. An online tournament where your participants are all at home if fair game though.
So basically all of those smash retarded never bothered to get a licence.

>>717860562
Agree to disagree.

>>717860562
>The difference is that there's an easy-to-follow chain of logic for why property rights are good and necessary, and why your right to protect them needs to be recognized.
NTA but state the logic instead of just going
>it's logical because I said so!
Also
>That's why it didn't exist for the vast majority of human history
Most societies in recorded human history had some form of intellectual property rights dating back to the ancient Greeks who did acknowledge the ownership of creative works but didn't need as many protections as we do now because obviously replication wasn't as easy.

>>717860562
>There is no such philosophical consistency to the concept of intellectual property.
There's arguably more given intellectual property isn't a physical object you can defend, well, physically. If someone comes into your house and tries to steal your TV you can tell him to fuck off and punch him in the face to stop him.
With intellectual property who's going to stop the guy on the other side of the world who steals your creation to sell to both undercut you and sell at a premium?

>>717828105 (OP)
>translation: I am mad I can no longer play their games for free

>>717862221
read the op before responding you retard

>>717860974
Will do. Appreciate you hearing me out, man.

>>717861497
>With intellectual property who's going to stop the guy on the other side of the world who steals your creation to sell to both undercut you and sell at a premium?
Leaving aside the ethics of presuming you have the power to tell people they aren't allowed to distribute information without your permission, this is actually a problem that J.R.R. Tolkein faced when The Lord of the Rings was being distributed in the United States as a public domain work. His solution was to release a statement politely asking his fans to buy only from his authorized publisher, which they did, his was the best version and they wanted to support his hard work.

>>717861309
>state the logic
You require territory in order to create a safe environment to live in. You require resources in order to survive. Depriving you of these things, or the ability to acquire them, deprives you of a necessary condition for living. So, the right to property is necessarily connected to the right to life. For further research, I would suggest reading about the subject of natural rights, but I think we've gone on enough of a tangent.

>>717849629
>you NEED to
>other companies don't enforce this kind of conduct

Next thing you'll tell me every other company bends over backwards to appease people because they're desperate for a shred of Nintendo's appeal.

>>717828105 (OP)
Being hostile is how you survive in the games industry since the 1800s.

Notice how nintendo are the only company out of the big 3 that aren't going down the drain aka third party?

>>717828423
The real question is how are you so gullible that you follow what journalists say? Especially after what happened in 2014

>>717864037
>putting your games on other consoles mean you lose
retarded fanboy shit. literally the only thing that matters is how much money is being made

>>717863651
No problem. And as usuall I appreciate tolls like yourself entertaining me for a minute.

>>717828391
Are you okay?

>>717863651
>, or the ability to acquire them
In other words, intellectual property, which gives creators the ability to acquire safe environments and resources by selling their creations, is good and necessary by your own logic.
> I would suggest reading about the subject of natural rights
No thanks, it doesn't hold much relevance to conversation all things considered.
Well, except for the right to property which of course includes intellectual property as a tangible creation.
But I wouldn't expect someone without a strong grasp of the English language to understand the subtlety of natural rights.

>>717832607
Capcom was the focus a few years ago in the press and caused the equivalent of the YouTube apocalypse in Japan and nobody here talked about it because it wasn't Nintendo related

>>717864523
BUSTA WOLF!

>>717828105 (OP)
They aren’t the old Nintendo anymore
They’re the New Nintendo

>>717863651
>His solution was to release a statement politely asking his fans to buy only from his authorized publisher, which they did, his was the best version and they wanted to support his hard work.
Except that's not what happened you fucking idiot. He told the fans, the fans rioted resulting in Ace Books pulling the books and paying Tolkien and then he rewrote the books as the second edition and got a us copyright for it.

>his was the best version and they wanted to support his hard work.
You didn't even know that he made more than one version.

>>717864946
New Nintendo died with iwata along with his Jewish bullshit, this is Nintendo classic

>>717864946
What is this slop lmfao

>>717830709
In the Anno Dominus 2000 +25 you are just realizing trolling is fun?
I hover Jeff in Rivals (gm2) and keep saying I'm just gonna goof around,people immediately get mad, some start picking widow, Adam, etc since they are convinced we are going to lose. I keep jumping, rolling around and emoting on spawn and when the match starts I swap to c&d or Luna. It's always fun seeing people get tilted that easily.

>>717865131
>iwata changed the formula and moved away from quality titles to brand and cheap merch
>kimishima and Furukawa go back to quality games
Huh

>>717865052
>>his was the best version and they wanted to support his hard work.
>You didn't even know that he made more than one version.
Excuse me, I didn't realize I was speaking to someone lacking in basic reading comprehension.

>In other words, intellectual property, which gives creators the ability to acquire safe environments and resources by selling their creations, is good and necessary by your own logic.
Only if you presume that it is necessary in order for creators to earn a living selling their works, which is not the case. As recently as the mid-20th century people were earning very sustainable incomes working on commission for works that went into the public domain shortly afterwards, or by mistake. The only people who benefit from modern far-reaching copyright law are people who wish to become millionaires on media empires. I don't begrudge those people - after all, those who do exceptional work deserve exceptional rewards - but I do begrudge having my own right to distribute information which is in my possession taken away because someone else doesn't understand the difference between copying and stealing.

>>717864118
Meanwhile nintendo is the only console manufacturer that hasn't laid of anyone and is instead hiring more. Money means fuck all if you keep firing people just to appease shareholders.

>>717865572
Forgot to ping >>717864578 there.

>>717865597
autistic manchild

Absolutely based Nintendo. I wouldn't want the speedtrannies associated with my games either.

>>717865676
He’s right

>>717865735
tell me what the purpose of a corporation is

>>717865815
To extract maximum cash from pigs like you and line the CEO's pocket.

>>717865914
ok so making more money is the only thing that matters thanks for agreeing with me

>>717865572
>Excuse me, I didn't realize I was speaking to someone lacking in basic reading comprehension.
NTA but you're the one with the poor comprehension and of your own post no less
>His solution was to release a statement politely asking his fans to buy only from his authorized publisher, which they did, his was the best version and they wanted to support his hard work.
This is saying Tolkien himself only made one version and it was the best of the unauthorised copies, which of course is an idiotic statement to begin with because the point is that they're the same.
Anyway, Tolkien was always going to be a bad example for you since he was a creator who explicitly used copyright

>>717854056
What this anon said. They completely abandoned the idea of keeping up with tech. So, intellectual property and gimmicks are what they will protect at all costs.
You will only pay $60 for a ps2 looking game in 2025 only if you absolutely love it. But even tendies are beggining to notice

>>717866361
>Anyway, Tolkien was always going to be a bad example for you since he was a creator who explicitly used copyright
He explicitly supported copyright, yes, and yet when his claim to copyright was unrecognized in the United States he was still able to triumph over the people distributed unauthorized public domain copies. It's almost like that was the point I was making or something.

>>717865572
>recently as the mid-20th century people were earning very sustainable incomes working on commission for works that went into the public domain shortly afterwards, or by mistake.
Just to correct you there, there wasn't a concept of "public domain" until after the Statute of Anne was created and records show that people hated that particular part of it dbut like a certain other UK act that happened recently kids and education were used as an excuse.

>>717866791
>he was still able to triumph over the people distributed unauthorized public domain copies.
By using an effective mob and copyright, yes.
That's why it doesn't work with your argument.
>It's almost like that was the point I was making or something.
Unless your point was that copyright is necessary it doesn't work when you consider the facts given you have someone using copyright to defend himself.

>>717854056
>most Japanese companies allow a ton of fan content, unlicensed merch and stuff for free promotion.
No. Doujins are one thing but things like merch and what not require a licence

>>717867148
Irrelevant. Whether you call it the public domain or copyright expiration, the concept is the same: the work is not considered to be subject to any individual person or organization's monopoly.

>>717867284
>Unless your point was that copyright is necessary it doesn't work when you consider the facts given you have someone using copyright to defend himself.
If Tolkein had copyright on his side he would have taken the publisher to court and not had to deal with that mess instead of publishing a second edition. Or he might not have bothered, since evidently he didn't need to take them to court in order to outcompete them. If the copyright was what made the difference, why did Tolkein need to ask his fans not to buy the public domain edition? Why did they oblige if copyright is necessary in order to stop people from buying the cheaper versions? You've undermined your own argument and bolstered mine. You keep trying to declare victory because you caught a mistake I made, but that mistake did nothing to invalidate my original point, despite your insistence to the contrary. There are NO PURPLE ELEPHANTS, ANON!

>>717867624
Ok but IP is real and your opinion of it is irrelevant.

>>717828541
I can see Yoshi tongue controls getting annoying with gyro.

i remember blizzard doing this for a local SC2 tournament when it was a thing. the upside was after it got approved they sent organizers a bunch of shit to decorate with and a couple items to do giveaways.

>>717828343
capcom is the only company besides nintendo ive ever seen pull licensing shit on streamers