Thread 717831381

Are there any open world games that actually have good level design?

Breath of the Wild, RDR2, Cyberpunk, these are all great.

Elden Ring, particularly the DLC. Lots of people will seethe but I am correct

>>717831381 (OP)
The whole point of open worlds is to avoid having to come up with level design.

hi jack uguu

>>717831508
>tech demo, brokeback mountain, gay robots

>>717832634
Cyberpunk has barely anything progresive

>>717831381 (OP)
EverQuest games, but you missed the time to play them.

>>717832875
yeah if you pretend all the trannies and fag shit isn't there

>>717831508
I got bored with Red Dead 2.

>>717832875
dev?

>>717831381 (OP)
Days Gone map was okay

>>717831381 (OP)
Skyrim

>>717832016
No the point of open world is so the player doesn't feel like they're in never ending series of corridors and hallways pushing them towards the end. To allow them to breathe and choose where they'd like to go next. You still have to craft areas within that open world where interesting things will happen. Or you can be a lazy shit and copy paste a bunch of towers all over the map Ubishit style

I'm so glad Sopranos eventually got its own identity after a couple seasons instead of dumb scenes like this.

Arkham City

>>717831953
>particularly the DLC
The map design is great but the "levels" felt too short.

>>717833185
>generic nighttime urban cityscape that's in every fighting game

>>717832990
Why are you surprised that the age where you can modify your body and brain in any way you want has trannies? Though I can only think of one single tranny (Claire) and you don't ever have to talk to her

>>717833162
take it easy, we're not making a western here

>>717831381 (OP)
He was making a move. I had to get it on.

>>717831381 (OP)
Skyrim, the overworld at least dungeons are a bit meh

>>717833137
>To allow them to breathe and choose where they'd like to go next.
...Like a level select menu?

>>717833319
VI should focus on making the dungeons more like Blackreach, like worlds inside of dungeons

>>717831953
People complain about Elden Ring being a mostly empty open world, but it's preferable to, say, Skyrim, where you have ancient ruins every few steps.

Gothic 2 is the best in that regard. The world isn't all that big but you have all sorts of things hidden on the map, like a random hunter just resting on a mountain next to a city, a tomb full of undead paladins under a chapel, a mine full of crawlers next to a bandit tower. None of those places are related to any quests so you only get to discover them if you bother to explore.

>>717833485
it's gonna be procgen slop programmed by pajeets, Bethesda are way past making real games anymore

>>717833162
I mean, the guy was 'wiseass' and shit all the time, it kinda fit his character.

>>717833560
I'm fully expecting Jeetperials like in the Oblivion remake

>Thinly veiled Sopranos thread
>Starting with Season 1

If you're gonna shitpost like a newfag, I'll send ya to slip and fall school

>>717831381 (OP)
Octopath Traveler is a great example of how an open world doesn't need to be a fucking copy of ubislop sandboxes. There are many other ways to make an open world and make it work with tools like scaling.

I guess the turd doesn't fall far from the faggot's ass

>>717833542
you hav dngns every step in er 2

>>717831381 (OP)
Mikey should have been a two season character, he was a funny guy

>>717833954
the showrunner actually regretted killing him off so early

>>717831381 (OP)
Elden ring in the legacy dungeons. But even the actual overworld was head and shoulders above other open world games in quality & design.
Subnautica by virtue of having a fully 3d open world had good progression.

>>717833542
An empty open world is preferable to skyrim since skyrim has content? What the fuck?

>>717833607
I like Mikey and Brenden, but I mean the scene itself with church music while a guy gets shot in the eye relaxing and if it wasn't completely obvious then Big Pussy literally telling Paulie outright that it's a Godfather reference later. The show's success as the series went on went to the writer's heads in a good way. Killings were more practical or chaotic instead of everything being set up perfect to make it as dramatic as possible. In later seasons, "It won't be cinematic" as Patsy would say.

>>717832016
Nah bro. Open world is an emergent idea that was born from game development itself. It's related to level design in the sense that the level must be designed to provide access to everything at once, or at least the illusion of it. In essence the level still exists, but someone thought it was a good idea to take the structure away, or obscure it.

>>717831381 (OP)
Cyberpunk. Every location is focused on stealth with cctv cameras, hackable machines to distract people, trash cans and boxes to stuff bodies in, guard patrols, back doors, roof top access, snipers, mines, automated turrets you can rip out and use etc. The only thing it's missing is vents, but considering how many ways you can do a mission in cyberpunk I think it makes up for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-5dRPcYUI

>>717833954
Chase goofed up the series up by not really expanding on sesson 1 and increasing the tension with Uncle Jun, the real tragedy is Junior and his crew not becoming more prevalent characters

>>717834149
>But even the actual overworld was head and shoulders above other open world games in quality & design.
>every area plays exactly the same and consists of things trying to kill you and glowing ball pickups
>no interactions woth anything except arbitrary designated big wind vortex jumps
>if you try actual platforming, it can break the game
The open world is shit.

Breath of the Wild is about the closest I can think of

>>717831381 (OP)
Deus Ex Mankind Divided

Prey

>>717833954
Season 1 is a mess. Uncle Junior would have flipped solely for Tony seeing a shrink. He wouldn't have stayed loyal for that reason. This plothole was mentioned when Richie even told Junior that Tony should have been whacked already

>"you know it, I know it

>>717834514
Bobby and junior were basically the only hanger ones from juniors crew and they were both wins so year probably should had more

>>717834852
He’s old school he wouldn’t have flipped, he literally did try to kill Tony

>>717834620
Not an argument

>>717831381 (OP)
I can feel it itching already

>>717834620
And it's still better than 99% of them. Open world a shit.

>>717835307
>>717835418
>no reply
Fromdrones and third worlders inanely complaining about open worlds don't play video games.

>>717833272
Retard

>>717831381 (OP)
The Arkham games in general
Despite being open world, most of the games takes place in-doors where missions feel like they're dungeons. Each mission has like multiple stealth and combat segments in a building

>>717835626
combat? you mean pressing square?

>>717835750
You literally didn't play the game

>>717835626
>>717836105
Not everyone wants to "scan for clues"

>>717835750
oh sorry did i forget circle?

>It's a Sopranos villain getting more popularity than Tony and gets killed episode

Bravo Chase. As if Tony is the good guy of the story. You completely got exposed for being a hack that you spent an entire Season 6 showing that Tony is a bad guy.

Shadow of the Colossus PS2 or PS3

>>717836208
Sorry for your ADHD

>>717831381 (OP)
>>717831508

Breath of the wild was fun to traverse but it had zero content. It felt like a tech demo.

Rdr2 had interesting encounters but the world itself was boring. There was no level design.

Cyberpunk lol

Death stranding had actual level design but the entire rest of the game was dog shit.

>>717831381 (OP)
Elden Ring, RDR2, Cyberpunk, Skyrim

>>717837216
Cyberpunk has incredible level design for an open world game. It's like Deus Ex Human Revolution but 100x bigger

>>717838032
2 zloty has been placed in your account.

>>717835604
Not an argument

>open world
>level design
pic rel is basically what an open world is, theres no actual level design.
open world games only exist to keep you immersed in the gameplay between points of interest.

>>717831381 (OP)
Xenoblade chronicles X

>>717831953
Elden ring isn't actually "empty". Aside from the the dungeons and mini dungeons you find around, there's a good number of rather unique encounters put throughout. The world is basically a giant legacy dungeon.

>>717839836
>unique
>elden ring
lmao

>>717839675
least brainrotted nintentroon

>>717839836
It feels empty in terms of habitable space.
Since most buildings aren't enterable, they could have added a few more fake towns, or made the existing ones a little bigger.
For the sake of immersion.

yeah elden ring
>NOOOO IT DOESN
cope

>>717841542
wrong
cope

>>717831508
>>717834695
He said good

>717841581
>reply in under a minute
how are the sisters in the new 'cord doin?

>>717831508
>THE empty open world games
I am saying this as someone who is going through BotW again. I do enjoy exploring but holy fuck right after you finish the Ubisoft towers and explore all the settlements/interesting locations the games falls off a cliff

>>717831381 (OP)
Bethesda games especially the newer ones like F76 and Starfield but that's not saying much since open world games always have terrible level design

>>717841393
>Fromsoft
>actually inhabited areas to make a world feel lived in
No, you'll get more dying kingdoms filled with vaguely mad NPCs that attack on sight.

>>717842159
sounds kino, ill trade whatever the fuck this is for that

>>717833954
>>717834020
The way he was killed off was worth it and the funniest death I seen on TV. From the second he notices the car to screaming while getting shot everything was a masterclass in comedy

>>717833542
based Gothic 2 enjoyer
Maps in 1 and 2 are full of cool secrets and interesting locations

>>717842241
As someone who hates Fromdrones and Tendies, BotW had a far better world.

>>717831381 (OP)
>open world
>with levels
wut?

>>717842682
the sopranos is a comedy disguised as a drama

>>717834514
they were supposed to have a big fight between tony and his mother which surely involved uncle Jun but she died irl

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