Thread 717833552

What can we learn from it?

>>717833552 (OP)
Nothing new, I'm afraid.

It's pointless trying to break into the hero shooter market. People are trying to get their foot in the door, not realizing that the place is already completely filled to the fucking brim with preexisting IPs, and since there is very little room for gameplay innovation (also, people don't really care all that much about gameplay to begin with), it's not worth the effort. You have to have a name that works and that people are familiar with, it's the ONLY reason why marvel rivals was a success. (that and the gooning)

I'm glad that they put together an actually cool trailer, but trying to get into the genre this fucking late is a waste of effort.

I guess to never do that again

Don't hire a jeet to be your creative director.

>>717833552 (OP)
Stop trying to insist upon yourself and your worth when trying to be creative. Stop trying to impress people who you don't even want approval from.
Just make a cool game. That's literally it.

>>717833552 (OP)
That chud always wins.

Make new IPs

>>717833552 (OP)
Bungie is a shit studio and has been for decades now.

>>717834294
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot.
Release the files.

>>717833552 (OP)
The only lesson to be "learned" is that Bungie should unironically keel over and die already, but we all knew that.

For what it's worth, this particular type of retro futuristic aesthetic is BOSS compared to 'hurr neon everywhere' normal cyberpunk and would have been great in something that wasn't a hero shooter slop. What a waste, and they even stole most designs to boot.

>aimlessly chase trends
>lose 1 billion dollars
Lol stupidass investors. This is why gamers should only make games.

>>717833552 (OP)
I still can't believe that this game and Destiny 2 flopping that led to Bungie getting absorbed into Sony

>>717833552 (OP)
That life service games arent sprint, they're a marathon

>>717833552 (OP)
Stop chasing trends and start making them

>>717833552 (OP)
If your art department is going to plagiarise from someone, try not to let them do it from an account they all follow on twitter?

don't get grifted for 2.3 billion dollars chasing a decade old market trend that was never even commercially viable in the first place

>>717833552 (OP)
Sony thinks they can get away with making the same terrible decisions Microsoft can without having the financial security of a functional monopoly on computer operating systems.

>>717835409
>plagiarise
holy onions.

>>717833552 (OP)
The videogame crash is coming

>>717833552 (OP)
That extraction shooters are oversaturated

>>717833552 (OP)
that if people want to hate your game they will hate it no matter what

I mean it's nubungie so it's not like they don't deserve to go bankrupt and shut down, but all these normalfaggot cattle pretending they give a shit that some random crappy artist got xim's work copy-pasted while simultaneously lambasting the game for how shitty it looks was hilarious
>>717834761
trends > all, they just did a shit job of it this time around. It becoming trendy to hate this game literally spelled its doom singlehandedly

>>717838938
>using the soi meme in 2017+8
>actually taking the side of stealing images from a twitter account to use as textures because it's le ebin contrarian move
tourist detected.

>>717833552 (OP)
Women in gaming has ruined everything. Them playing games, them designing games (attempting to)

That bungie is still dead and has been for at least a decade now.
Also, Sony is shit, but this is just one data point for that fact.

>>717833552 (OP)
>What can we learn from it?
Trannies don't make games, they steal EVERYTHING, whether it's taking an entire established franchise and incorporating their ideology or ripping entire art material and hoping nobody finds out.

>>717833552 (OP)
Don't wear the skin of another brand when it clearly has nothing to do with it?

Don't make games purely around following trends when making a Triple A multimillion dollar game cause by the time it comes out 8 years have passed and the trend is over?

Don't steal people's art?

>>717833552 (OP)
I was in the play test and it's so much fun. The gunplay is just as good as in Destiny and the maps are expansive and engaging. The 3D printed robot characters are lame though. They really need to add new designs and skins

>>717839968
wokies*

dont be retarded like sony?

>>717835147
The latest D2 expansion flopping was inevitable. You can't just give people the perfect offramp to leave satisfied and then expect to be able to just do another expansion the next year. Post Final Shape the only workable thing would be releasing a Destiny 3.

>>717840210
>The latest D2 expansion flopping was inevitable. You can't just give people the perfect offramp to leave satisfied and then expect to be able to just do another expansion the next year.
Funny enough this is exactly what happend with the Final Fantasy MMO

People are sick to fucking death of graffiti-core pink orange green blue color vomit art styles
Marathon, FragPunk, SuperVive, Wildgate- I'm sure there's more. But there's been a goddamn onslaught of these attempted live service nightmares and every fucking one of them suffers from this godforsaken confetti cannon artystyle. From the instant you load into the game, even the menus are enough to trigger seizures. Let it fucking die. Bring back brown-grey-piss filter aesthetics. I didn't know how good we had it.

>>717840210
lol dude that wasn't the major problem
its the fact that bungie made it adamantly clear that they weren't going to be focusing on destiny 2 as much after final shape.

no one gave a fuck about the story, it was entirely bungie's weird fascination with abandoning their most successful game to try and jump to some trend chasing trash.

>>717840481
Story is only a tiny part of it, what they did with Final Shape was also a logical conclusion gameplay wise as well. How do you add a new subclass that tops Prismatic?

>>717833552 (OP)
PLAGIARISM_WILL_MAKE_ME_GOD

>>717833943
This makes me wonder what the newest (by release date) hero shooter game is that actually didn't die and looks healthy.

Is it Marvel Rivals? Or Valorant?

>>717834145
This.
Has a Jeet ever created something original and ground breaking? They love to talk about running Google and Netflix and Youtube, but they didn't make any of those they just took over after they were established. It seems Jeets are good at maintaining something that already worked at a low cost.

>>717840769
Why do modern games keep doing this thing where they put as much stupid bullshit on a womans face as possible? If it was only the lips or only the eye and cheekbone thing then it would be weird enough, why both?

>>717840930
It's Marvel Rivals which is massively carried by the IP behind it, not that there is anything wrong with that. There is only so much you can do with hero shooters as a genre. CTF, payloads, all that shit narrows the gameplay down quite a lot, to the point where you see pretty much the exact same mechanics and classes lifted from one game to the other. It's been solved, and no one wants to innovate, but everyone wants to cash out.

It's the same reason why autochess is functionally dead as a genre. You're not just competing against TFT, you're competing with the limits of the genre itself, and whoever has more tenure in a given genre has had more time to figure out the gameplay. They had the chance to whittle it down to its core components, and the time to test and build it into a form that's as good as it can reasonably get. You'd need to introduce a BIG change to make it interesting, but that's risk and investment, and no one wants to actually take a fucking chance.

>>717833943
You say that when a caveman hero game would be fun as fuck

Classes could include
>Hunter = melee bruiser
>rock thrower = ranged DPS
>shouter = can ping enemy and objective locations to rest of team
>Elder = can buff nearby allies
>Shaman = crowd control, healer

Gametypes can include
>Hunt
>Primary objective = hunt and capture game around the map and bring it back to your tribe
>secondary objective = build traps to lure in more game
>Raid
>Primary objective = capture the enemy tribe's magic rock (hunk of flint) that makes fire
>Secondary objective = capture the enemy tribe's women
>King of the Hill
>primary objective = two tribes fight over the same cave
>secondary objective = idk im out of ideas

>>717841589
Ah, so it was Rivals. (I don't play hero shooter slop, so I wasn't sure what the current fotm was, thanks.)

Pretty fucking grim that you need a massive IP like Marvel to even have a hope of breaking into the genre. Maybe Bungie thought their brand name would carry a similar weight when Marathon was conceived back in 2020 or whenever. Sure as fuck doesn't now, lmao

destiny 2 and bungie as a whole have such a bad reputation nowadays that marathon was fucked from the start
art raiders just sealed the coffin

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