Thread 717842553

Why is it so shit?

>arcade mode too arcadey
>realistic mode too realistic

>>717842553 (OP)
>planes on ground battles
>shit maps
>base rape
>russian bias
>unrealistic armor
>grind
>cold war vehicles vs ww2 vehicles
>p2w cosmetics

>>717842553 (OP)
Don't know how I played the slop for so long
The smack to the face that finally woke me up was a match on that beachside map in France where both teams just go forward right at eachother, but the random sun position was placed right behind the enemy team so everytime you went to the gunner view it was just a bright white light and you couldn't see anything.
Match probably lasted less than 10 minutes, our entire team wiped out, meanwhile our entire team got 2 kills between us.
I remember posting it on the forums, advocating that this might have been a teensy bit unfair and one sided. Some agreed, but some select genuine retards purported that "Well...it's realistic. If the sun was like that in real life you'd all have died"
It was then that I realised if there was ever a chance of that happening in game to me ever again, I didn't want to even chance it, so I uninstalled.

>>717842553 (OP)
>"ItS a CoMbInEd ArMs GaMe!!!!!!"
>planes get their own retard mode with nothing else
>ground and naval are forced to deal with planefaggotry in every mode
>time travelling vehicles across all tiers
>pay 2 win shit
>pay 2 not regress shit
>"we know CAS is everywhere and endlessly oppressive but the maus is too strong to fight WW2 vehicles so it has to always go against vehicles from the 70s"
>the endless stream of 'premium' captured vehicles
>battlepass shit
>catering to the most retarded parts of their userbase, attaching japan to the US for matchmaking because mouthbreathers can't stop trying to turnfight zeros
>helicopters

Don't care, F-106 event is due to arrive in two days.

>>717843093
>realistic mode too realistic
what? it's just arcade with a clunkier flight model

>>717842553 (OP)
1st: planes in my tank game, there should be a mode with no planes allowed
2: STOP FOCUSING ON MODERN SHIT! i wish they would choose more experimental tanks and concept tanks, instead of abraham varian N•17477288 with a slight modification in the rear gas tank

>>717842553 (OP)
lack of actual artillery aiming mechanics

>>717842553 (OP)
I quit like a decade ago when the updates kept making everything worse and the P2W aspect went out of control, the points that did it for me were:
>Gunners went from admittedly way too accurate to being unable to hit fucking anything even when upgraded.
>Repair costs skyrocketed, this was an ass-backwards attempt to balance spitfires being so OP but it just fucked everyone equally.
>That bullshit where if you didn't have premium, they taunted you with how much more credits you would've made if did at at the end of each match.

>>717846761
they fixed your second point but everything else is still the same as it ever was

>>717843928
Sounds like a you problem, why do you play Ground battles at all? It's like CBT

Matchmaking is retarded, you have to survive against cold war opponents if you have a higher tier WWII tank.
Grinding is insane and the economy is made so that you have to perform really well in order to make up for the costs.

>>717842553 (OP)
The piggies keeping buying premiums so there's no reason to make it good.

It's less of a game and more of a grindfest

As someone who exclusively played air sim IFF became near impossible, even if I recognized the 3 pixels of the weird third country aircraft I was looking at how the hell was I suppossed to know what side it was on?

>>717843093
>realistic mode too realistic
You are joking.

Subhuman playerbase and devs

>>717842553 (OP)
I realized I was playing for the grind rather than enjoying the game

Lots of reasons, but the reason I finally stopped playing a few years back when I was trying to grind German tanks and was in 15 losing matches in a row. Fucking 15.

I realized it when I understood that the game will always be a shitty TDM with vehicles, using the same capture the point gamemode on the same unbalanced shit maps from 12 years ago

I was playing top tier on small poland when it struck me, why the fuck am I wasting time on this shit?

>>717842553 (OP)
keybinds are too shit. I can't individually control throttle, prop or mixture control per motor on a multi without first selecting an engine via a keybind. I can't set different controls for different aircraft.

>>717842553 (OP)
premium vehicles unironically ruined warthunder

example. i play piston engine fighter planes in realistic battles.
BRs 1.0 - 3.0 are basically WW1 / shitty aircraft that very few people play, only new players (so it's unrewarding to fight them)

this leaves BRs 3.0 - 6.7 (above is jets)

>play BRs 3.0 - 5.0
i will face entire teams of XP-50s, a plane which outclimbs and outmaneuvers quite literally everything at its BR range, and gets an airspawn as well. because it's premium.

>play BRs 5.0 - 6.7
i will face entire teams of JU 288, a plane with an airspawn which is faster than everything at its BR (other than P-51H which is a few kph faster but gets no airspawn) and bombs all your bases and returns to its airfield before you can even reach it.

every BR is like this. there is some premium vehicle that makes it unplayable. i quit for this reason primarily.

there are also other reasons, eg. the across-the-board nerf they did on plane cannon/MG velocity, because they wanted to make missiles even more braindead and easy for the console children who buy premium jets.

>>717848615
You're only gonna win in a German tank if you're playing arcade. German mains in realistic have sub-70 IQs.

>>717842553 (OP)
>Mobile gacha shit
>Shilled by YouTubers
>Why is it so bad?
Really?

>>717848919
are you retarded? it's not mobile or gacha

>>717842553 (OP)
It's a lobby based grinder. I got hooked on air warrior back in the day which had persistent maps in rooms that could fit 300 players with three sides all fighting it out and you could take over the airfields in the center and you could have multiple players in different crew positions in the bombers. All of this with a good flight physics engine played over dialup on AoL in like 1994. It looked like shit to people who have seen games since then though.

>>717848615
US CASfags are the biggest paypigs in the game

too grindy, but i like to dunk on tankbabies with my cas

>>717848968
>it's not mobile
It is now.

>>717842553 (OP)
It was better before they added tanks.
Ships and planes probably could have synergized well, but tanks and planes is just not good. And having so many different match types splits the playerbase too much.

Also the monetization model sucks. You effectively can't play the high tiers without paying for premium at least.

>>717842553 (OP)
>Play simulator ferdinand
Face cold war tanks
Shit game

>>717848807
Yea, it's been a long time since I quit, but I remember every tier had some BS vehicle(s) that were rated too low. You'd end up going against Tiger IIs in an early war Sherman or something like that.
Obviously the real historical counterparts were never balanced either, but that doesn't translate to a game where you have an even number of opponents and roughly symmetrical maps every time.

>>717849223
Which one turn means it's now gacha as well

>>717842553 (OP)
Limited game modes
WHERE IS WORLD WAR MODE GAIJIN

>>717848807
i saw in a BR change document a month or two ago that they were planning on axing the XP-50's airspawn, haven't played that BR recently though so i don't know if they went through with it or not

>>717845058
Based

>>717850435
>i saw in a BR change document a month or two ago that they were planning on axing the XP-50's airspawn
the sad thing is it would still be better than every vehicle 3.0-5.0 other than the j2m2

>>717848968
>not gacha
They bring out lootboxes to drain SL full of FOMO items. Oh, you didn't spend dozens of hours grinding an event? Here, have a .01% of getting a random event vehicle you probably did not even want for a game mode you don't play (looking at you, naval.) And don't forget the premium loot boxes that might maybe let you get a specific premium vehicle for less than the normal price, even though it's far better to just wait for one of the big 50% sales.

People say russian tanks are bias but I always get 1 shot killed??? I'm 6.7BR(I think) IV gen tanks

>>717850550
yeah but it's a US vehicle, 90% of US players don't climb so unless the game puts them up there itself they'll just stay on the deck the whole match and die instantly

>>717850853
That's Russia's worst BR. I just stick with their tank destroyers, especially the SU-100P, until you get to rank V.

fuckers started focusing on cold war tank combat instead of WW2 air combat

>>717850853
1. Everyone still playing War Thunder has been playing so long they know exactly where to one-tap every tank at that BR
2. The bias becomes far more obvious at top tier where Russian tanks have magic regenerating ERA and stalinium fuel tanks that stop darts dead in their tracks

>>717842553 (OP)
Because it's a pay to win grindfest.

They keep nerfing everything I buy

>>717856043
Of course they are. How else would they sell the next paypig bait if they don't make sure that it's the most powerful vehicle at launch?

The entire BR system and unlock tree is bollocks.
But to the games credit the line up of pre war aircraft is pretty good.

the gameplay itself is great, it's the only online vehicle combat game that is not complete shit. The simulation and physics themselves are great without being autistic. The problem is that there are too many planes and they have to compress the matchmaking, so you can end up fighting cold war jets in a ww2 prop. Also ground battles are completely unbalanced in higher tiers and ground attack aircraft completely rape tanks.

>>717856613
>it's the only online vehicle combat game that is not complete shit
Imagine actually believing this.
Il-2 is better
Falcon BMS is better
DCS World is better

>>717856043
>wow this product is super overpowered in some way, surely buying it will guarantee it will never get nerfed in some way

>>717856759
>The simulation and physics themselves are great without being autistic.
>the autist shows up

Lmao.

>>717856759
>Il-2 is better
>Falcon BMS is better
>DCS World is better
do those games have enough players to play online whenever you want? I don't doubt any of those games are better, but the thing about war thunder is that I can play whenever I want and it takes 30 seconds to find a match. And the game is fun.

>>717843093
>Pulls 13G turn in your path.

>>717842553 (OP)
actually grinding f2p is one of the worst I've ever seen.
you can't get past rank 3.

>>717857386
the dark truth is that rank 3 is when the game is the most fun anyway

>>717857386
>actually grinding f2p is one of the worst I've ever seen.
it is, but once you get good you can grind a tree pretty fast. The grind became more bearable when they introduced the rp multipliers after shooting down 2+ players. The real problem is silver lions, you should buy some rank 3+ premium plane with good multipliers to farm sl from time to time

>>717857386
Br 4.3-6.0 is the best part of the game, the moment heatfs becomes common the game becomes pretty gay. Although that br rate has its own cancer too sadly (yak9k, pt76)

>game "made" by russian jews (who farm out everything to jeets)
what could go wrong?

>playing to grind
see that's your first mistake
the point of the game is doing retarded shit and still succeeding

>>717842553 (OP)
i have 3.5k hours ingame
stopped playing the game cold turkey about a year ago
im just done with it
its so fucking shit

>>717842553 (OP)
BR system pits WW2 and cold war era tanks together
The rewards for winning are so shit and the maintenance/repair costs for losing are so high you have no choice but to pay premium or you're stuck forever.
Premium vehicles are made of magic and can survive being engulfed in flames. Premium air vehicles are all equipped with an improbability drive.

>>717861554
using a t-70 to grief enemies in spawn at BR 5.0 is the most fun I've had in ground battles

>>717842553 (OP)
All the trailers and marketing show modern aircraft and tanks from like the 80s or later but when you actually play the game you're, at best, stuck in WW2 for eons. If you can't stick it out till at least WW2 you're playing a shitty post-WW1 light tank that has a 50cal for a main gun if you're lucky, and its top speed is like 12kph.

Also half the time you have any fun it's because you got down-tiered.

The game went to shit when they added tanks to chase wider appeal, Sabre vs MiG was the peak. You could still have reliable entertaining fights with an actual human at that time, without too much interference from the NPCs.

>>717842553 (OP)
its mainly the bad maps and the bad grind
otherwise the game is good but these 2 factors make the other parts of the game seem much worse than they truly are

>>717843928
>>717844932
>>717845906
Plane game tanksissies first come first serve

>>717863750
This, the map rotation is so ass but you can only ban 3 or so. it's only made playable if you have a friend or 2 to play with.

Shit balance.
Shit matchmaking.
Also WWII tanks Vs. cold war shit.