Thread 717888143

What made them so memorable compared to other hero shooters?

discussed to death
don't you faggots play anything other than 20 year old ultra-mainstream games?

>>717888143 (OP)
It's a class based shooter, and the style, memes and good gameplay. But it's kinda overrated. Its system is much scammier than what Blizzard ever done with OW.

>>717888143 (OP)
The heroes are goofy.

>>717888143 (OP)
It's just a good old fun class based shooter

Sandvich

>>717888143 (OP)
They weren't afraid of offensive humor.

every class is fun to play and feel unique

>>717888143 (OP)
1: they're mean
2: they don't reference lore in-game

compare lines for kills in tf2 vs lines for kills in overwatch, in one game you call the guy a subhuman and in the other game your character quips about some bullshit comic book crap nobody cares to read because for some stupid fucking reason blizzard decided that the framing device for a competitive shooter should be 90% of the cast are former friends/coworkers

TF2 is
>Not a hero shooter
>Not a shitty rip off of TF2
These guys aren't even "characters" they're archetypes that strictly exist for the sake that Valve didn't want to make a bunch of different models for the classes.
You never play as "The Scout" or "The Heavy", ironically not even being individual characters in their own right they have more charisma than shit companies spent millions making long elaborate plots and backstories for.

It's a guys-only cast.

>>717888905
right on the money
having your char literally call the other player you just domed a virgin / fatass / freak is infinitely more entertaining than marvel-tier one liners

>>717888143 (OP)
Modern hero shooters:
>Cut costs on servers, usually have tiny playercounts and bad tickrates
>Have no dedicated server browser
>Have no community server hosting
>Have no mod support
>Have no map editor
>Have no memorable aesthetic design, since so much of it is outsourced to jeets and cobbled together last minute to make maximum money off of the cash shop
>Are designed around the controller, so fun skill expressions and movement are usually relegated to being canned animations
>Are designed around the controller so must include "press X to awesome" shit that gets super old very fast
TF2:
>Lets anyone host servers with up to 100 players now
>Has a dedicated server browser even though cancerous quick play is a thing
>Has community server hosting
>Has mod support
>Has a map editor
>Has a memorable aesthetic because the cash shop bullshit was added years later, you can even use mods to remove the worst shit if you want or play on vanilla servers I think
>Designed around mouse and keyboard, balance for the console version was almost explicitly separate and after the fact, movements like rocket jumps are manual, includes no "press X to awesome" shit

>>717889091
>>Has a memorable aesthetic because the cash shop bullshit was added years later, you can even use mods to remove the worst shit if you want or play on vanilla servers I think
It is still funny that despite all this TF2 does manage to have a more coherent artstyle even when tons of maps and cosmetics are community made.

I want to try this for the single player offline bots
What difficulty options do they have?

>>717888905
what are you talking about? Sniper's Kangaroo Wife is canon and so is Medic and Demoman fucking Medic's wife

All schizos. Just like me.

Pootispencerhere

>>717889084
I JUST BAGGED THE WORLD'S FATTEST MAN

Also people saying they're lunatics are missing the mark.
The bigger deal is that he could be you, he could be me, he could Even be

>>717889169
Modern asset design practically expects to break the artstyle to sell more skins, so from the outset they design around something that is only readable if you use colored outlines. The degeneration of artstyles over the course of the 2010s as studios started experimenting with cash shops was pretty terrible and obvious.
That's not even mentioning the wave of peak crossoverslop that is modern multiplayer.

Its the 1950s vibe. Kino decade.

>>717889528
>lol random

>>717889573
He drinks because it's shite being Scottish

>>717889169
And yet dumb people will assert the art style is broken and we have a severe catastrophe because a couple years we only got Halloween and Christmas maps.

>>717888143 (OP)
gooner spray walls

>>717889272
Medick isn't married, he devoted its life to science...also he is dangerous sociopath and a war criminal who will without doubt use you as test subject.

>nearly 20 years old
>I still hate none of the mercs voice lines
genuinely impressive considering most of the lines are that old.

>>717889650
>And yet dumb people will assert the art style is broken
Since 2011

>>717889169
Huge fan of whatever the modern map designers have been smoking for aesthetics desu.

>>717889720
You don't even know why the venetian blinds were contentious or why they're actually artstyle appropriate.

>>717889825
I know they're ugly and the game has been suffering since mannconomy.

>>717889863
And bingo bongo you confirm you are wrongo.

>>717889602
it was novel at the time

>>717889889
How ironic, you write like a blizzard writer.

>>717889825
They're contentious because Robin "A dingo sold my baby" Walker said it was the furthest they could see themselves pushing the art style, and that was a lie.

>>717888265
I play megaman, and xianxia shit.

>>717889931
You're close but if you were not a clueless babby in 2010 you'd know what in particular is unusual about the Dangeresque, Too? and specifically how they look.

>>717890062
They look like they don't belong.

>>717889602
Nobody asked fag

>>717890123
I think you need to look at them longer, so you don't say something wronger. So maybe you could achieve some kind of graduation to a level of understanding.

>>717890305
I'm not hearing any arguments.

>>717890359
It's because Kanye West repopularized Venetian blinds as shutter shades in 2007 as he found a pair in paris in 2006 which is why they don't ACTUALLY resemble the Venetian Blinds worn by Dangeresque Too in the 2004 Homestar Runner Sbemail:dangeresque 3 as the brothers chaps recalled them from the 80s via Macho Man Randy Savage who himself revived their popularity that had waned since the late 70s, and they've been around since the 50s.
The reason they SPECIFICALLY "look weird" is because they're based specifically off how they look for the Single Art for the track Stronger by Kanye West
And if you dare say something retarded about them again not only are you being retarded to the people you talk to, you're being retarded to yourself.

>>717890560
>It's because Kanye West
lol
As I said, the arty style was shit since 2011.

>>717890560
lmao

>>717889602
better than the layered post irony poisoned shit we have now

>>717890560
How zesty are you on a scale of fudge packer to friend of Dorothy?

pootis

>>717890614
>>717890634
>>717890729
Cry if you want faggots I actually know the issue. All you can do is jiggle around and complain they "look wrong" when they don't even do that.

>>717890759
pootisPOW, HAHOHHH DIS IS BADT

>>717890614
Oh and also you free to play fraud, the Dangeresque, Too? was added in 2010.

>>717890830
And Manncomoy hit in 2011.

>>717890873
And YOU started in November after the game went free to play you knob gobbler.

>>717890905
You sure?

New guns/secondaries and even melee allowed you individual expression in your gameplay style while still adhering to a class based system. Shit like demo knights, buff banner soldiers, etc all were unique sub classes but people knew to prioritize damage to the soldier to stop the rockets.

In assfaggots which is what modern hero shooters are, they add in 50 new heroes so there is roster bloat, consistently rework older heroes as they become unviable for even the most casual person to enjoy playing etc.

In TF2 when they nerfed individual weapons not everybody who played soldier had to feel like the identity of the character they enjoyed playing was intrinsically forever changes. Only that subclass.

>>717890927
Yes unlike the alt you bought because you don't know people have done that shit since April of a particular year.

>>717891051
Can you prove it?

>>717891051
>people buying alts for tf2
this is not your garden variety schizo

>>717889602
Yes and it's good.

>>717890319
>keeps laughing while he burns alive
turbobased

>>717891065
>So you've made me admit and engage in a variety of behavior of a certain demographic of TF2 player, but can you prove that I someone who immediately panicked and didn't post "my" join date badge isn't mine?
To your standard that I don't have your paypal receipt, obviously not.
To the point it's painfully obvious to anyone who cares about truth.
Obviously I have.
Which is why you've fled to this unreasonable standard of evidence.

>>717891246
What reasonable standard of evidence do you have?

>>717891137
It wouldn't be schizo if you actually played tf2 as long as you're pretending to have. It didn't even happen only once in TF2's 17 year history.

>>717888143 (OP)
Not a hero shooter. No ults other than medic and possibly spy cloak.
Mostly mutually exclusive gameplay between classes. Medics are indisputably the best at healing, soldiers are the best at aoe, demo are the best at non line of sight, scout is the best at being fast, sniper is the best at long range, heavy is the best at DPS with no mitigation, spy goes invis, engineers build bases, and pyro is the best at close range.
Yes, class expertise bleeds into one another, but the overall paradigm of each character is distinct, and even their design is meant to invoke impressions that reinforce this.
Contrast this to overwatch where the classes are divided into DPS tank and support, with 20 characters in each category, no shit tf2 is going to feel memorable.

>>717888905
There's an achievement for making someone you're dominating leave the server too