Why do AMD GPUs get so much hate?

>>717893958 (OP)
>why is the inferior product treated like an inferior product

>>717893958 (OP)
I know its a bait thread but I will answer honestly - anyone who used AMD GPU for a long time feels like they were in abusive relationship, be it driver issues or something else. Personally Im still salty from my own experience and will never buy a non NVIDIA GPU.

>>717893958 (OP)
It's all retards who bought amd when it was shit for years and don't realize that amd is good now.

>>717893958 (OP)
Brand wars

>>717893958 (OP)
I don't like it because it performs relatively poor in dx11 and openGL games when compared to nvidia. Other than that, don't have anything against it. I'll still probably switch over to team red for my next GPU

>>717893958 (OP)
They always used to run too hot for the climate Iive in (don't say aircon - no aircon unit is powerful to manage the relentless summer heat down here). I don't know if they've improved that in the past 15 years, but I doubt it.

Also the fucking drivers. I ran out of goats to sacrifice to make them work every time I wanted to try a different game.

That's only the tech illiterate retards here but in in /g/ and everywhere else people think they are fine

queue 300 posts of people complaining about nonexistent driver issues
only reason for gamers to pay the premium for nvidia is down to marginal performance differences (as it should be) and ai compatibility if they're into that

no idea, my 7800XT plays everything i throw at it nicely, and i'm still waiting on those fabled driver issues after almost 2 years

>>717893958 (OP)
Double the power consumption of the equivalent Nvidia card.

>>717893958 (OP)
Nvidia are one of the pioneers of FUD posting and guerrilla marketing on old internet forums, this dates back well over 20 years. They are now an AI company, you do the math.

When I bought my RX 7900 XTX, a lot of my friends be like
>lol why did you buy amd cards? are you stupid?
Meanwhile these retards still use GTX 1660 or RTX 2060 or some other ancient and shitty Nvidia cards

>>717894674
Also, Nvidia is one of the most popular stocks to hold being one of if not the largest corp in the world. This is why you shouldn't argue with retards about microsoft, apple, google, tesla or any npc blue chip tech stocks either, everyone is a compromised shill.

>>717893958 (OP)
Nvidia does what AMDoesn't.

Ray tracing performance should be better.

>have Nvidia card
>runs good enough, get graphical glitches frequently
>switch to AMD to avoid the VRAM tax
>graphical glitches gone
>everything runs flawless
>the software that came with it is nice too
I am now convinced people shitting on AMD are just paid Nvidia marketers.

>>717893958 (OP)
for me it was tech youtuber shills, with the 9070xt being the tipping point
that card was far worse than the equivalently priced 7900xtx before it, and underperformed vs a 5070ti for $50 more, but that card was apparently bad for reasons unknown
there's also the massive pretence that consumers don't care about green manufacturers exclusive tech, which everyone knows they do
overall the praise for AMD GPU's feels fake and more to try and convince NVIDIA that we care about them so they drop their prices. AMD are not a real high-end GPU manufacturer

>>717894446
>/g/
>tech literate
LMAO

>>717893958 (OP)
broken drivers

>>717895417
can i borrow your time machine? i need it so i can prevent old blizzard from becoming... well, current blizzard.

>>717893958 (OP)
Nvidia chinksect shills have been running a smear campaign against other manufacturers for years.

>>717893958 (OP)
Windows drivers mostly, my XTX7900 works pretty good on linux.

>>717895223
/pcbg/ on /g/ gets frequently spammed by amd vs nvidia. Just get whatever works for you best. Nvidia had drivers issues for at least half a year now yet I I didn't have any issues cause I used a version that was stable on my gpu.

>>717893958 (OP)
AMD gpus have shit software supports and terrible for ai image/video gen.

>>717893958 (OP)
They're a budget option at premium prices.

>>717893958 (OP)
because they don't make high end cards
they currently don't even have a card equivalent to the 5080, let alone the 5090

>>717893958 (OP)
Retarded tribalism.

>>717894384
>>717894074
Is it a new card issue or something? I had a 570 and now a 6650 and never had driver issues.

>>717896176
I am >>717896326 and AI is genuinely why I regret getting an amd card. Too bad the used market is fucked here in Italy, the prices are insane.

I don't like nvidia, I don't like AMD
Early on my experience with nvidia was just overheating shit and modified drivers. With AMD it was rare GPU driver releases until they released their cool graphics settings panels and then it was a fucking rollercoaster where I would always, always have to wait at least a year after release for something close to stable drivers. Even to this day on my 7840U laptop I have issues from time to time. How the fuck ever I had much less trouble with linux.
Nvidia on Windows is not amazing, I'm always having to use a tool to install drivers that's not official because their software is garbage, and I have to use MSI afterburner. On linux it's a hot mess and even these days I'm thinking of switching but I remember the problems I have and it always puts me off. I wanted to go back to AMD but now I'm having a conflict where I know certain things can cause me a headache as well (no HDMI 2.1 VRR support for one).

>>717893958 (OP)
>9070xt
>Linux

I upgraded to an AMD GPU a few months ago and now I have to fuck around with my audio driver every time I updated the driver
Shit's fucked

>>717897201
Don't install HDMI audio drivers

AMD gets deserved flak for becoming just as jewish as intel and nvidia

>>717898314
Same shareholders so it's to be expected.

>>717897486
Nigga, I've uninstalled it 50 times by this point but it will always replace my Realtek installation (becomes hidden and cannot be unhide in Device Manager) EVERYTIME I do something related to AMD driver

>>717897201
>ITT: things that never happened

>>717898676
Sounds gay, maybe you should use an external DAC instead of relying on that garbage

two 9070XTs I bought were dead on arrival and the third one scared me so much I returned it and went back to nvidia.

>>717899030
Fuck you shill

>>717899095
Shill detected

>>717899094
Maybe. I'm thinking of setting up my Virtual Audio Cable again for a cheapo DAC I got years ago, but Steam Recorder made that effort redundant

>>717893958 (OP)
YWNBGTX1070TI

>>717899095
I had one dead one from newegg

>>717898676
>>717899030
you're literally too retarded to install drivers or own a computer.

sell your pc and buy a console.

>>717899158
looks like a you problem >>717899412

>>717893958 (OP)
That's just /v/.

>>717894074
>>717895417
The complete opposite here.

>>717899158
Have you considered a different realtek driver version? It's not like they are known to work very well. You could also install the AMD hdmi audio driver and in the follow up installations skip it unless they actually released a new version

>>717899412
Why would I ever listen to a condescending fuck like you?
I hope you got hernia and blood pool in your legs

Radeon is for ignorant peasants who don't know any better.

>cannot into a.i
>cannot into into upscaling
>cannot into quality framegen
>cannot into multi framegen
>cannot into full DX12 feature set
>cannot into anything not vidya
>cannot into video recording unless you want potato
>cannot into opengl, so get fucked for emulation
>cannot into full vulkan support, so STILL bad at emulation
>dxvk effectively ended support for AMD
>cannot into power efficiency, always drinking more juice than nvidia
>cannot into VRR as freesync is fundamentally broken
>cannot into working drivers (lmao how are those timeouts going?)
>[NEW] cannot into neural compression

They don't even have an advantage on linux despite the urban legend which is based on decade old memes when wayland was a buggy piece of shit nvidia refused to support until wayland unfucked itself but radeon's open source driver went balls in and "supported" it as long as you didn't want to actually do anything and loved constant crashes but hey, the linux community declared this excellent and spread the memes.

>>717893958 (OP)
I just want AMD to give nvidia more of a run for their money. They should be selling ZERO cards with 8 gigs of vram or less by now and they need to make a cards to compete with nvidia's high end offerings.

>>717899763
Protip: 8gb cards sell like hotcakes in SEA, india, pakistan etc

>>717893958 (OP)
Nobody wants to buy one and be the guinea pig. Nvidia just works. It's pricey, but you get what you pay for.

>>717899608
Yeah, I've tried at least 2 different versions. Same result.
For the HDMI audio, pretty sure I already did, but maybe I missed something. Thanks for the suggestion

>>717893958 (OP)
Mostly from idiots.
Technically, nVidia does engineer a superior card packed with a lot technology that AMD is way behind on. BUT, it's whether or not you're actually going to USE that technology.
I'm not a brand loyalist, I don't give a shit about any company. But, zoomers, will literally tie their individual identity to a product or corporation.
Now, back to my first point. Is it worth spending $1500, $2000, or even more for a bunch of technology you're never going to use? I know, I know.... everyone here will be like, "Ohhh I am going to use AI, I am, maybe *tomorrow.*" They'll never use it.
So, to answer your question, here's the breakdown of where the hate comes from:
>Literal Paid Shills. All big corporations pay money to have shills push their shitty products on social media, but here on /v/ nVidia is one of the worst. Them along with Blizzard and Nintendo for sure.
>Techlets. In this group you have retards who get all their tech knowledge from Linus No-Tech Tits. These idiots couldn't tell you the difference between ROM and RAM, so they just parrot what the funny man on YouTube tells them.
>Zoomer Brand Loyalists: Your zoom zooms who will defend their favorite company company to the death.
>Consooomer NPCs: Kind of a combination of the brand loyalist and techlets. Their sister's boyfriends cat told them, 15 years ago, that AMD drivers were bad, and they cling to that, being too lazy to do any research. They are also the types who buy FOTM under FOMO. Because they wasted two months of rent for a video card they'll never fully use, they get REALLY defensive if you mention how your $500 card works perfectly fine.
There are a couple of others that I forgot to mention, but for me? I am self-aware enough to realize I am never going to use muh AI, so I am not going to spend $2000 for a meme. My 7800XT lets me game at 1440p with frames well above 60 - and that's all I need, so that $450 card will last me for a good while.

>>717899738
>They don't even have an advantage on linux despite the urban legend
I have a 4070 super and I had much less grief with my 6600XT before I upgraded. Even today I have to do weird exotic shit to get Wayland not to show artifacts on screen and my refresh rate has been effectively cucked and HDR support is all over the place because I'm using an nvidia GPU. And I have no tool there to apply any reasonable undervolt. I've been looking to go back to AMD on the grounds that I pretty much feel forced to use Windows now, restricted.

>>717894074
Same. The AMD card in my 11 year old laptop no longer has driver support and hasn't had it for many, many years. Never again.

>>717899908
>NOOO THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SUPPORT MY 11 YEAR OLD LAPTOP BECAUSE I'M TOO POOR TO GET A NEWER ONE

AMD is for poor retards.

>>717900159
>Dell monitor
>Air cooling
>Cheap build and case
>Calls others poor
LMAO

>>717899641
You never listened to anyone, that's part of your whole problem.

What little you know gives you the confidence that you know what you're doing. You spew subjective experience like it's objective fact.

You are literally too stupid to learn.

>>717900159
What is this picture about

>>717895223
It is a thing from like over a decade ago when AMD had bad drivers. Now there's basically no reason to pick Nvidia over AMD unless you are using out the box AI.

>>717899860
and to that list
>3rd worlders who think owning an overpriced piece of shit sold by a company that hates their customers will make them look rich in the eyes of /v/

my 6750 XT obviously isn't the best card or anything but I like it a lot and haven't had any issues with it

>>717900472
Was it really any worse than nvidia though? I used a 680 back then, and it shit the bed when trying to do multiple monitors.

>>717900472
Giving up dlss is basically kneecapping yourself for visual quality and performance.

The biggest point of grief I had about AMD is that at the time Windows 10 was absolute garbage (2015-2019) I was very happily using 8.1, and they stopped supporting it early on enough that it was unjustified. They literally just stopped supporting it because of low marketshare. It didn't matter how new your GPU was, it didn't matter if Microsoft stopped supporting the OS or not, they went like "well there's more people using 7 than 8.1 so we'll just drop support and fuck you".

>>717899860
>7800XT
I'm >>717899412
I got mine for 380 during a dip in price at my local shops, I chose it over a 7700XT 16G, no regrets.

My last card was a RTX2060, GTX1070 before that.

Brand loyalty is a mental illness.
Just look at /pcbg/, you will find obsessed, lifeless faggots there.

>>717900649
I have been thinking about upgrading my monitor to 4k and moving up to the 9060 XT, but I have a lot of research to do first to justify the money. And, I need to visit a Best Buy or something to put my eyes on a 1440 and 4k to see how much of a difference their really is.

>>717900612
FSR is fine
>>717900603
There was like a 4 year period where AMD bulldozer CPUs and their GPUs were fucking aids because of the drivers. After that AMD has pretty much been better for cheaper imo.

Lots of people see Nvidia as the standard, so AMD is basically just a cheaper, more powerful version of the standard. For a 1080p level GPU in Nvidia you will get a 1440p from AMD, give or take.

>>717893958 (OP)
>sell substandard products for years with abysmal drivers, but strong performance for the asking price when it works
>A service comes along requiring strong performance at budget prices (bitcoin mining)
>suddenly AMD GPU's are the bees knees
>AMD gets flooded with dosh
>With their feet now firmly in the door, and the funds to do so, they start pumping out legit solid drivers for all their GPU's, reversing their meme-hood right of being largely irrelevant overnight
>Their infamy still exists as "building powerful cards with shitty drivers, so they're worthless"
>Yuden, still convinced that Nvidia is superior, still chants Nvidia's name even though their drivers are becoming worthless, and their cards even moreso

It's a classic case of Nvidia getting too big for its own britches and shitting themselves, while AMD capitalized on its own windfall and made a now either on-par or superior product. The hate received today just reflects the memery of yesteryear and is no longer relevant.

>>717900882
>FSR is fine
Top tier cope.

>>717900774
Yes, the AMDrones desperately trying to peddle their substandard gpus keeps shitting up a thread aimed at giving sensible advice.

>>717901312
>nVidia wants to Cash App you $0.04. Do you wish to accept?

>>717901312
You are no different than AMD shills.

>>717901461

>>717893958 (OP)
>Why do AMD GPUs get so much hate?
Winjeets have issues with them. If you're a linuxchad they work perfectly

>>717901508
Every time someone gets suckered into buy AMD we ALWAYS get them coming back a month or so later giving a laundry list of issues and problems they have encountered and them asking what is a suitable nvidia card they can purchase to get rid of these issues.

>>717900778
Recently switched to an 1440p OLED.
Shit looks amazing. Definitely check yourself, if you can. Personally I don't think 4K is worth it, for now.

>>717901595
>Every time someone gets suckered into buy AMD we ALWAYS get them coming
Namaste sir

>>717901596
Good advice, I'll compare.

>>717895320
>equivalently priced 7900xtx before it
dunno about your market but 9070xt launched $600 cheaper than the 7900xtx when it was in stock here, it's actually a pretty good deal. I think the last 7900xtx's on the shelves dropped quite significantly in price when the 9070xt launched.

>>717901595
I have an 7800 xt since January and literally had no problems yet...

>>717900612
My 2.5 year old Nvidia GPU is faster than AMD's current top tier GPU. Remind me why I should switch to AMD again.

>>717896176
>and terrible for ai image/video gen
Initial set up aside it's fairly competitive $/perf wise especially with how retarded the markets gone for 3090/4090's. Only talking about the XTX here the 24GB is a must for 2025 local models.

>>717901742
Why would someone do that, go on the internet and tell lies?

>>717893958 (OP)
stuck in old mindset, they have been good since rdna2

>>717901808
>Remind me why I should switch to AMD again.
If you're a richfag there's no reason to but if you're building your first build or upgrading from a potato amd is way cheaper

>>717900778
It depends on your viewing distance. If you're very close to the monitor 4k will be better but depending on your monitor size you want to maintain a certain minimum distance in order to see the whole screen. This is why people suggest 24" 1080p, 27" 1440p and 32" 4k assuming you sit at the recommended viewing distances with a regular 20/20 vision.

>>717893958 (OP)
people kept falling for nvidias marketing gimmicks

except this time with the ai shit amd really needs to catch up fast, all the other crap was pointless

I got a 9070xt on release for 615€ so as close as the fabled MSRP as possible and i feel like i robbed a bank.
Couldnt be happier

>>717901812
I had an RX 460 back then, that card had problems, especially the drivers. Not much later switched to an 1060 6GB which served me for years without any issues. Half a year ago built a new PC and went with AMD because 4070 supers were significantly more pricey.

>>717893958 (OP)

>>717894384
>>717899821
>>717897201
>>717899158
>Only virtual devices listed as having errors
>Real Realtek audio device doesn't
https://archive.is/A3zdM

>>717894743
7900 xtx is honestly a chad tier card, especially if you got it at launch when everything was in extreme short supply, i'm rocking a 9070 xt rn and i'm good for like 5-6 years

>>717893958 (OP)
what about intel?

>>717901808
>i have money so i spend money on the most expensive product
good for you!

>>717899738
I don't care about local slop generation and thats all the AI you are doing on gaming toys
FSR4 is good, >>>framegen
The fuck you talk about
You can stream and encode on AMD absolutely fine
Never had issues with opengl, never found an emulator not working
Whatever you say about vulkan too
The fuck is dxvk?
Nvdia is the one with 500W gpus
Freesynch works fine, maybe your monitor is shit
https://youtu.be/NTXoUsdSAnA
More framegen shit meme? Lol

>>717893991
>Melts your power connectors
Heh, nothing personnel N-Kid-ia

>>717894074
I had nothing but good times with my R9 280X

Only reason I an chained to nvidia these days is cuda

they could massively undercut nvidia and break the trend of GPU prices increasing with every new series
but they choose not to, they contend with their 10% market share in a market where nvidia sets prices as high as they want

>>717902560
You don't even know what cuda is

>>717902701
TSMC die allocation doesn't exactly grow on trees and AMD is making just as much extra money from selling enterprise dies as Nvidia is

>>717902701
9060 XT are $300, moron

>>717902729
i need cuda for my sloppa so I need cuda

>>717896176
>lucky chloe fag posts an ai gen video
your shit taste is visible from space

>>717899804
people shit on 8GB but if all you play is esports shit at the lowest settings "for advantage" then it doesn't matter

>>717900467
SOVL

>AMD GPU
>AMD CPU
>Linux
>gog
>Piracy
>Emulation
>Lutris
>8bitdo
Goddamn I love being BASED.

>>717902839
zluda exists

>>717902560
This. I need cuda for my research.

>>717903128
You don't even know what a cuda core is, pajeet.

>>717903128
>for my research
What "research" are you doing on your gaming PC?
You should have a separate PC paid for by your company with an RTX Pro 6000 in it.

>>717902934
>brags about being based
>read through list
>actually is based

>>717902934
>8bitdo
They sent me one with a broken dpad, I use retrofighters

>>717903256
I'm working in uni doing a PhD and I doubt they'd buy me a PC for my research as we have a computation center that I could (and do) use. It's just that it's more comfy using my own environment, so unless I train big models or something, I just use my own PC.

Feels good man.

>>717893958 (OP)
I would buy a 9070 XT today if it actually made economic sense vs the 3080 I already have. 6 more GB of VRAM? Nice but genuinely unnecessary for literally anything but Monster Munter Milds. 20-30% more frames? Not fucking worth the equivalent of 750+ USD, that's not a transformative experience.
FSR4 also isn't as widely supported as it really, really needs to be since native AA solutions are universally fucking abysmal these days and AA off is no longer a viable option. Upscaling bandaids are also widespread.
I really want NVIDIA to fucking burn but they never will

What's the point of buying a new gpu these days when nearly all the nu games with demanding graphics sucks ass?
whatchu gonna play, fucking indiana jones? besides most of them cant even do 4k60, unless you are a inbred 2kfag or have 5090

that being said i wish i'd bought an amd card so i wouldn't lose half of my fps switching over to linüx

>>717903737
damn almost twins, I'm thinking about getting that last 16GB

>>717903825
I'm more curious as to what unholy ram setup you have to get 48gb on ddr4 as iirc the 24gb modules are ddr5 only. I used to run 32gb of memory but was getting close ot the limit so decided yolo for 6gb it made no difference for me and wasn't worth it

>>717903761
i went from 3080 to 9070xt and it's been worth it when coupled with a modern 1440p OLED monitor

>>717903798
What i'm gonna do is play trespasser at 4k.

>>717903539
>Thinks cuda cores will help him with his quest to cure his incel chudism.
Lol

>Pajeet shills attack the people that bought AMD if they have any issues with their shitty drivers
Meanwhile NVIDIA giving up chiplet sockets for Always Indian fraud processing power to scam investors so their performance is at a standstill and stagnant meaning the 30XX series is still the best for gaming performance except if you run out of RAM now from unoptomized trash games that pajeets fuck up too.

>>717904087
Protip: HDR is a meme currently because it is broken on nvidia drivers.

>>717894074
I've been running a 6950XT for years with 0 issues.

>>717903954
Mismatched modules, bought 16GB when I first built it added 32GB for the same price many years later. Got my eye on another set of 32GB of the same type but its one town over so dunno if I'll grab it or not. Kind of need it too because I'm actually running out doing AI image/video generation.

>>717904116
Works fine on my 4070 super
Been using RenoDX and RTX HDR too

>>717893958 (OP)
They have fuck all availability and AMD keeps regressing bugs fixed 15 years ago. There was a bug where if you did GPGPU work + accessed the hardware video decoder, the card soft locked and you either had to reset or ssh in through a secondary gpu that was still working and use that to soft reboot the locked gpu core. Not making this shit up, had to ask a password cracker developer about it to explain.

This bug was then fixed in driver, then on the HD7000 cards it resurfaced and had to be fixed again, then on the Vega it had to be fixed again etc etc etc.

But that's the only real driver prob I ever had with them, and they have by far the most powerful iGPUs, Ryzen APUs make for awesome gaming mini PCs, like imagine a machine slightly larger than a raspberry pi in a case but it can play modern games on mid settings. Fucking insane.
And if you drop $1500 for a Strix Halo mini pc, it's basically a 5070 level iGPU with soldered 256bit DDR5 for tons of bandwidth.

>>717900465
>doesn't even lecture people on relevant knowledge
>has the gall to say someone he doesn't even know never learns
Pray to whatever God you subscribe to that you don't choke to death from all that vile fart you spew from your own mouth

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>717904671
okay im convinced

I just want 4k at >60 frames. Preferably >/= 90 frames. Should I go 7900xt 9060 or 9070?

Old pic but still, luv me AMD.

>>717893958 (OP)
People like nvidia house fires, they say its a feature

>>717905673
I wouldn't bother with high end RDNA3 these days unless you get deal of the century.

>>717905740
So 7900? Doesn't it kind of struggle with 4k though?

>>717905801
Its not that it is more AMD's strategy is clearly focusing on supporting RDNA4 more going forward and FSR4 is superior to FSR3. A 9070 will do 4k60 on high/ultra today based on techpowerup's numbers.

>>717893958 (OP)
For me it was because of the dogshit support for pytorch for AI memes. But that's a retarded use case anyway and I deserve it, for everyone else they're fine cards without the stupid nvidia premium pricing.

>>717906361
or premium features or premium support

what's a good price for the 9070xt
best I can find is around 700 bucks

or is it better to just go with regular old 9070 which is about 60 bucks cheaper

>>717906519
At that price gap i'd prefer the XT.

>>717905692
What's that? Radeon VII?

>>717907087
Yup.

>>717902891
We've had 8gb cards for a decade now. They only really work well at 1080p and many of them still need upscalers even at that resolution on more demanding titles. It's time to make 12 a standard.

>>717908103
Reminds me when sapphire made an 8gb 290x card in 2014.

>>717894074
Got the black screen curse on one of 380X series and been delegated to infamous 100 step FAQ.
In the end it WAS the stupid GPU fault and replacing it with GTX1080 fixed everything.
Previously on 8600 series I got drivers fucking up some of games but that was ancient history at that point.
Hard to switch gears.

>>717893958 (OP)
They're fantastic on Linux. Can't speak for Windows.

>commits unforgivable vram crimes

>>717893958 (OP)
Because AMD's ROCm is so much worse for parallel programming than CUDA. It's unbelievable.

>>717908103
16 needs to be the new standard. This is 2025 not 1995.

>>717908975
Imagine still using windows in 2025 when Pop/Ubuntu/Mint/Fedora exist.
It's amazing how in the age of AI people are even more tech illiterate now than 50 years ago.

literally what's stopping amd from releasing a card with 48gb or more of vram and blowing nvidia out of the water?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZxLTM

Will this build last me 8 years at least, please respond

>>717911104
>8 years
Didn't click but better have a 5090

>>717911002
The same thing that iSheep and Ninpedos will never leave their favorite brands... Brainwashed NPCs who's entire identity is tied to a product or corporation.
nShitia would release a card with 500MB of VRAM and the loyalists will still line up to pay $3000 for it.

>>717909724
>stuck on fsr 3
oh no no no

>>717911215
>Falling for AI slop

>>717911480
Seeing how even TAA is better than FSR 3.1, I don't think FSR 4 will be any better.

>>717894074
I have constant driver issues, randomly out of nowhere i get timeouts, frustraing when playing mp. My old ass gtx 1060 that I used and abused for 7 years never had driver issues or timeouts.

>>717911104
If you are buying low end don't expect longevity.

>>717911685
That's the problem, you don't think.

>>717911771
skill issue. I've had exactly one timeout this year so far with my 7800xt.

>>717894074
For me it's the McNvidia.

>>717911480
I 'member when dlss 2 was better than native.

>>717893958 (OP)
Bought an 9060xt
When ReBar is enabled, the drivers uninstall themselves
When I try to tab from games, the pc locks up and I have to fidget a lot to make it work
Freesync doesn't work, still get stutters
Some games straight up refuse to load up, spitting errors

Yeah.. it feels like linux trash. Unpolished and unreliable

>>717911771
>when ur ram is unstable but u gotta blame gpu

Is this AMD driver shit just weird propaganda? I've legitimately never had an issue with my 7800xt

>>717911930
5 timeouts with the same card, worst part is they happen totally randomly. I think it might have something to do with my twin monitor setup.

>>717912184
It's morons who don't know what they're talking about spouting shit they heard 15 years ago. Also, don't forget paid shilling on /v/ is VERY real

>>717912302
I believe it cause I've had my 6750 xt for a few years now and I've had zero problems with it

DDU is the work of the devil.

>>717894931
Crash drivers and catch fire?

>>717905673
>4k
Definitely not the 9060. 9070 might be enough. XT if you wanted to be safe, but only if the price makes sense. (Only up to 20% more than the non-XT, good luck lmao)

>>717912184
Windows installs its own drivers if you dont tell it not to and it causes lots of issues ranging from GPU problems to ethernet/bluetooth problems.

Personally I think a black screen when waking from sleep is a feature.

>everyone shill 9070xtx when it came out
>said its basically just like 5070ti but at half the price
>every retards went out and buy them out
>price went up and its the same as 5070ti anyway
lmao

>>717913989
blaidd?

>>717913989
MSRP was a lie from the start. Day one pricing had retailer rebates, but that was it.

>>717893958 (OP)
Because poorfags always buy the wrong ones.
>6800xt
>9070xt
These are the only AMD gpus anyone should have bought. Anything else is shit.

I am going to upgrade my system. I am ditching the AIO for a Noctua NH-D15 for my 5950X. Going from 7800XT to a 9070XT and a 4k monitor from 1440p.
I think I'll be just fine

Real men buy Intel.

>>717899908
I know you're trolling but an 11 year old mobile radeon gpu would have linux support, your problem there is windows not amd

>>717893958 (OP)
its less that they got better and more that nvidia shit the bed hard with 5000 series providing almost non existent uplift outside of the 90 card.

>>717915114
Hard for there to be any uplift when they continue to cut dies smaller than the last gen yet still sell them as equivalent tiers.

Because they've been massively behind the curve for decades now and inferior in pretty much every aspect but their defenders insist that they're good. I haven't witnessed a company more incompetent than amd radeon in my lifetime (in an industry I actively follow)

works on my machine

I might actually go AMD for my next gpu. But gonna wait until next gen GPUs first.

>>717917464
Smart.
But I would not have high hopes for the next gen as long as AI bubble is still around.

where do I go to get pc build help

>>717917789
>>106232425

>>717899738
>>dxvk effectively ended support for AMD
Since when? did I miss some news?

>>717919396

>>717920196
>poorlaris
>vegan
Not my problem.

>>717920265
Read the bottom line.

>>717896326
it's just nvidia shills

i'm perfectly happy with my 7900XTX, and have been happy with amd for the last 20 years, after my nvidia shit the bed

>>717920593
>supporting it is no longer a priority =! no support

>>717921062
That is coping. Every developer knows AMD's drivers are hell to work with and buggy as all sin so that is just the dev being polite. Watch this space - over the coming months AMD will get less and less support from dxvk until it just stops working.

As an former ATI/AMD person, my card experience went
>Rage 128 Ultra (swapped a library GPU with an S3 Trio)
>Radeon 9800
>Radeon X1300
>Radeon X1950
>Radeon 4890
>Radeon 5770
>Radeon 6970
>Radeon 7950
>R9 285
>R9 Fury
>RX 570 (HTPC punishment ever since switching to a 1080 ti and never looking back)
Something truly cancerous happened to Catalyst around the 6970 era, as they became even bloatier .Net messes that eventually fucked-up some games and ATI Tray Tools support with missing/locked API stuff, Ray Adams was like
>hey what the fuck, can we work on this
and AMD was all
>nah

This is also the era of CAP's, or AMD's attempt at hotfixing without completely new driver releases, and while they claimed to be on-the-fly "game ready" driver profiles, more often than not they added positive LOD tweaks and other performance enhancers to keep up with Nvidia, so if you wanted to make sure your games didn't have subtly lowered IQ, you had to install a blank CAP. Radeonpro attempted to fill ATT's void, and it did for a while, but the even more cancerous Crimson killed that too, and AMD nabbed the dev JohnM to work on Raptr, which AMD killed because nobody wanted diet OBS, which caused JohnM to ragequit Radeonpro development entirely - not that he could've done anything more. Just like ATT, RP relied on API shit AMD locked or nuked, and both programs were pretty vital for forcing AA in DX9/OGL-and-under stuff, as to this day, official AMD drivers STILL hate forcing AA in a good amount of shit, with the overarching unofficial solution usually being
>try DXVK/DGVoodoo and hope it doesn't crash

There wasn't even an official solution either, sometimes an AMD support mod would suggest something like
>just rename every game UT3.exe or Oblivion.exe to force MSAA
but this wasn't a solution, there never was, and forced AA was something AMD just quietly let turn into a 50/50 buggy mess they hoped would be forgotten in favor of downsampling and TAA

Nvidia-side, MSAA just fucking werks

>>717893958 (OP)
>Why do AMD GPUs get so much hate?

Same reason why every apple fanboy hates android. Nvidiots are mostly retards.

>AMD card fails
>LOL classic AMD amirite
>Nivdia card fails
>That's so sad bro I knew [Manufacturer brand] was shit, should have bought [Different brand].