Thread 717901330

So Relic is deciding to re-release the first Dawn of War games (OG DoW + the standalone expansions) as one. And its coming out in about 2 days. Fixes and additional features include 64-bit support, improved unit pathing, 4x upscaled textures, a built in mod manager and better battle camera/draw distance without using that one "mod" that was actually a memory edit of the exe.

What are your thoughts? A boon for modders? Relic attempting a cash grab after the failure of CoH3?

Sounds cool, i just hope the changes will be substantial enough to varrant dividing the miniscule DoW1 playerbase and having modders remake all their mods.

>game that didn't need a remake gets a remake
i don't care

>>717901490
the improved pathfinding is interesting

>>717901330 (OP)
Someone better port over the tyranid faction mod fast.

>>717901486
Apparently its compatible with a bunch of popular mods already, according to the Steam page

>Now on a 64-bit platform to support the ongoing efforts of the modding community, the Definitive Edition also includes an integrated Mod Manager and is compatible with over 20 years of lovingly crafted Community Mods.

Though Relic has confirmed there's not going to be Steam Workshop support. So it'll all be through ModDB and co still.

And the tldr of what one of the Unification mod devs had to say here is:
>Could work out of the box
>Could also be a buggy mess
>We'd probably need to test but you should try anyway, if anything breaks it'll be the AI
>We gotta update shit

>>717901692
>mandatory Nids mod
>UA
Yep it's gaming time

inb4 200gb

>>717901330 (OP)
>include 64-bit support
Literally why? If the game doesnt support 32-bit than in trash it goes

>>717901330 (OP)
>What are your thoughts? A boon for modders?
Texture upscaling will likely be using AI. The intro cinematic will probably use the new bad audio and have oddities, possibly also using AI.
I doubt there will be cut dialogue or other things.
I somehow doubt unit pathing will be improved as not only is that a lost art, you'd probably "only" need to reduce vehicle bounding boxes and give them a further reduced size specifically for infantry to walk around... which would be a lot of work. The pathing itself was never an issue, so I'm still confused what they mean by this.

I think this is a mistake as modders will flock to this one because it's more capable, which will mean normal, "vanilla" DoW will no longer be compatible with mods and if I ever want to go back to DoW, especially with friends, we'll have to buy the new one, warts and all. I'd rather the edition without female devs crowding around it remain untouched like a time capsule. It's just another way to taint what people remember as good.

>>717902319
Small price to pay to see Boreale speech in full 4K resolution with raytracing

>>717902457
i don't think it has raytracing. the main benefit I can see with this rerelease is that the aspect ratio for the GUI won't be completely fucked if you run it in widescreen.

>>717902448
What?

>>717902448
hopefully they add something so you can turn off the new and old graphics

>>717902448
I had the same concern with the upscaling too, but then, using AI isn't the only means of upscaling. Its just that with a re-release of anything, it'd probably be the go to because its cost effective to begin with. Like what happened with GTA.

>>717902581
"I believe they used shortcuts that diminish the quality of the game, because it's cheap, and modders will not make their mods compatible with the good version, because a 64-bit mod won't work in the 32-bit version.
I dislike the current games industry."

Where are the Eldar, Relic? Why are you hiding them?

There has to be a monkey paw in all of this. The price point seems good and if mod support comes working well out of the oven I'll be happy, but there just has to be a catch. Maybe they'll milk it for money with stupid microtransactions throughout the upcoming years?

>>717902448
Original team is working on it iirc, including the original art director. Doubt he'll use AI

>>717903235
well duhhhhhhh

>>717903528
From 21 years ago?
I'd need to see a credits list.
And I'd need to be convinced why a man who says he joined halfway through Dark Crusade's development, as a "Campaign Designer and Narrative Designer", and that he helped make 2 (controversial downgrade) and 3 (shit), is the right man for the remaster.

Ship of Theseus. They made DoW3, they are no longer the people who made DoW1, even if they genuinely are the entire team.
They deleted the marine sergeant's yell and added in random voice lines like a shitpost in the "remastered" cinematic, remember.

>>717902448
>modders should keep working with the absolute mess that is DoW modding wise instead of a hypothetical better version because I may play it once in a blue moon with my friends (no, I won't pirate it because... Look, I just won't ,okay?)
I can understand thinking that the remaster it's unnecessary but this complaint it's normalfag tier

i hope we can mod it right away , base game doesnt have nearly enough units for each faction, +no tyranids

>>717904207
> They deleted the marine sergeant's yell and added in random voice lines like a shitpost in the "remastered" cinematic, remember.
They also said "yea we heard you" and made a version with the original audio

>>717901330 (OP)
Do I get a free copy if I already own all of those games?

>>717901490
>stuck on 4:3 display ratios
>didn't need a remaster
(you)

>>717901330 (OP)
I played DoW a lot when it was new. It's one of the best voiced games ever made imo. I don't remember the game itself being very interesting though

I'm ready to play Tau and Necrons again.

can't wait to recover some lost relics

>>717905157
No. You do get a 30% discount.

>>717901628
Bad pathfinding is SOVL, look at brood war or aoe2.

>>717905610
>Something happened in DoW 3, I'm sure.
Kek'd

>>717901330 (OP)
Can I alt-tab now?

>>717903765
AoE2 civs are mostly just tweaking numbers, there are art assets but they're sprites and you can sprinkle them about across multiple civs and DLCs
If they started pumping out factions like Tyranids or different kinds of Chaos that are completely new both in terms of models and mechanics, or entirely new campaigns that are on par with Dark Crusade, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world
They probably wouldn't be as good as what people could make for free but hey

If it was just "IG but Krieg skinned", that would be ass

I really want to see if there's a public reaction to the canon outcome of Winter Assault, or if people just memory-hole it and say IG won instead.

>>717905705
is this re release is good enough i might have to brave it and give dow 3 a quick playthrough just out of curiosity

>>717905682
You're a masochistic ass lil-nigga. RTS "game-pheel" is supremely important to feel like you're an actual commander, not just Sobel from Band of Brothers, with your men disobeying your every order, you losing your shit as them over the radio as they run every which way.

>>717903765
They can't make new expansions without completely fucking up the artstyle. Unless they actually somehow get permission by Games Workshop to release new stuff based on fucking 4th edition era(never gonna happen).
Also the game already featured most factions of the time. And what was missing like nids was added already through mods. At best they could add Marine chapters and chaos legions. But again: Games Workshop would never let them make anything without "updating" shit to Primaris and Nucrons and whatnot.

Be honest, Dawn of War was your first exposure to the Warhammer franchise.

>>717902457
It is barely a texture swap with minor engine tweaks. This isn't some rebuild like all the Age of remakes.

>>717906063
Yeah. So was WWE Smackdown! Here Comes The Pain.

>>717905807
I'll save you the trouble; DoW3 is an Eldar game, the Orks and Marines are just sorta there.

>>717906020
>Games Workshop would never let them make anything without "updating"
Why do retards think that GW have a hate boner for old stuff when they keep making references to those times again and again and again? Also, GW has no saying in what goes into a Warhammer game outside of really basic stuff, fro example the guy from Bolgun isn't a primaris marine and while I haven't finished Mechanicus yet, necrons there a pretty much oldcrons

>>717905756
>>717905610
do they really steal things in game?

>>717906685
In the game the named characters have an inventory and can equip armor and weapons
A lot of those are literal relics from their own AND other chapters and artifacts that they would have had no way to acquire.
You can get Forgebreaker, a weapon made by a primarch for another primarch. You can get a literal discarded custodes armor, you get find a weapon that was lost 10k years ago after a battle, you can get a plasma pistol (might have been a sword) powered by a demonic heart, etc
PERSONALLY i dont think itsmeant to be taken seriously, but it created the meme that they are the actual items and that the blood ravens as magpies have been retrieving these relics.

Again i personally think its just a problem with the devs and writers going a bit too happy on adding shit with recognizable names instead of creating a full array of new shit or call them just PowerSword +2

>>717906685
No, in DoW2 Relic decided to throw in a lot of equipment and the for the end-game stuff they started to pull wargear from established lore or they gave them heavily improbably descriptions liike "This suit was once owned by a Custodes", to the point where they even tossed in an occasional joke of "Nobody knows how the Blood Ravens got this"

>>717907360
>you can get a plasma pistol (might have been a sword) powered by a demonic heart
i was a bit off, it was a plasma cannon, but still
if any chapter would be found using a weapon powered by a chaos artifact there would be hell to pay

>>717907360
The one where they claim they got the weapon from a "ceremonial exchange" that the other chapter has no records of is very blatant.

We reeally need a proper HH RTS.

>>717907587
Yeah its been a while so i dont remember a lot of the stuff and the description but at some point they just become jokes as >>717907387 mentioned

>>717902319
The steam page says it requires 25GB of space.

>>717902430
64 bit CPU existed since 20 years ago and if you use an Intel Atom laptop, you couldn't run the game anyway.

Also there is the problem that for a while these games were believed to not be canon but the exploits of the Blood Ravens in Kronus have since then been mentioned in a bunch of other 40k shit

>>717905610
I didn't play 3, what's this about primaris and custodes?

>>717905682
>Bad pathfinding is SOVL, look at brood war or aoe2.
AOE 2 had really good pathfinding.

>>717905756
The next time I get a space marines vehicle I'm going to paint it in ultramarines colours but the marines are going to be blood ravens

>people loved the first game, its expansions a bit less
>for some reason, they fuck with the formula with the sequels and never reach the height of their previous popularity
why do they have to mess with something that worked just to make squad shit with no base building no one wanted?

>>717908078
When Guilliman first got back to Terra he had Cawl open up the vaults of Primaris Marines and then had the Custodes sent out to deliver both the reinforcing Marines and the tech required to make new ones and convert Firstborn over.
Sometimes the initial meetings between the Chapters and the Custodes didn't go over so well, since Custodes are colossal assholes who make even the Eldar seem humble.

Too soon to replay it all, I did all the DLC then did DoW2 plus DLC and then pretended 3 didn't exist like the rest of us

My playtime is wrong, I had it on disc before steam and had many many more hours in it

>>717908229
Yeah I know the primaris law, what does that have to do with DoW and the blood ravens?

>>717908262
Blood Ravens were one of the Chapters that had some initial friction with the Custodes, due to said Custodes being cunts about the whole thing and the Ravens being a pretty remote Chapter that didn't get the original memo about the situation.

>>717908179
I would play an RTS wiht no base building, just drop pods for reinforcements, actually having terms to defend places properly and to have titan fights

But GW doesn't like money

>>717906063
Yes and?

Best game for edgy little metalhead shits like me, loved the chaos UI being made out of stitched together faces

>>717901330 (OP)
Relic isn't even involved in this.

>>717905618
Then it's a cash grab scam. Simple.

>>717908078
Primaris are space marines v2.0
Taller stronger faster with better and more organs etc
Lore wise they were developed in mars and when they had made a decent enough number they sent those to join chapters that were low on numbers.
You can also have a "regular" marine (called "firstborns") undergo a very dangerous surgery (called crossing the Rubicon) to become a primaris. Its only dangerous if you have no name cause named characters go through with the surgery all the time. Example Titus from the Space marine games from 1 to 2 (after the prologue).
Not in the lore the idea is that James Worksaw wanted to sell more marine figures.

Custodes are the guardians of the throne in Terra. They are the best of the best sons (and now daughters) of the noble houses of Terra trained and enhnaced to a point where they tower over a space marine and are gigachads.

>>717905618
>>717908385
I get a 100% discount

>>717908236
Most of my playtime on this is from before Steam kept track of that sort of thing. Makes me feel old.

>>717908179
It was a weird time for the RTS genre due to MOBAs creeping in. Goodbye base building hello casual squad combat

>>717908458
I remember the THQ adverts between episodes of Star trek Voyager on Sky 1 when this came out, i think they really pushed Winter Assault in them

>>717908262
I copied this from a reddit comment after googling "blood ravens custodes" (the first suggestion was about the custodes armor in the game lmao).

>In the short story “Ravens Blood” the custodes are delivering gene seed and equipment to produce primaris marines. While they’re doing this the shield captain belittles the blood ravens saying “ I care not there is no debate there is no discussion, the lord commander decrees and by extension the emperor himself be of no doubt rejection will not be looked upon with forgiveness and you are in no position to resist you have said so yourself” Captain Anaxis responds “ Blood Ravens have stood steadfast with the imperium for thousands of years we will not tolerate being spoken to in such a manner, I have sixty warriors to your five. Five ships to your one and you are on the wrong side of the tear you never did say how you crossed it.” Also they had a chapter civil war when half the chapter turned to chaos earlier.

>>717908179
The second game was so much better though. And no one but /v/ ever tries to claim otherwise.

>>717908440
The terminator drones have been dispatched to your location. Please do not move.

>>717908697
It's great fun but it's also a different game than the first one

>>717908351
Where did that happen?

>>717906063
Are you 50 years old?
Trying to claim oldfag cred from 20 fucking years ago is really fucking weird.

>>717901490
Proper 64bit support and memory increase was needed you absolute buffoon. DoW is a 32bit game and modern systems are increasingly moving away from running those.

>>717908927
>>717908569

>>717906063
It was, for sure. I got it in a Steam sale in 2009. Before that I had never heard of it. I remember the game had looked cool but the main reason I gave it a chance was because it was the same developers as Impossible Creatures and Company of Heroes kek

>>717906063
Mine was a space marine armor mod for fallout 3. I thought they looked goofy as fuck.

>>717906685
No, it was all gifted to them.

>>717901490
Unironically this. It's literal slop. I already own this game, I don't need an AI generated demake.

>>717909191
well I don't own it and I'm too lazy to unofficially fix it...

>>717909010
Here's your (You)

>>717909252
Thank you, I always like getting those, here's one for you

if you already own it do you get a free update?

>>717906063
My senpai showed me a White Dwarf magazine back in 1999.

>>717909332
i think you get a discount but not free

fuck blood magpies

>>717909342
were there sexy dwarves?

>>717909332
You get a discount.
It's $30 and goes down to $20 if you have the Anniversary Edition (which everyone who owned the game does)

>>717909397
no, there was a Dreadnaught. I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

>>717908697
I hated how it skimped on all the cool shit CoH introduced, from vehicle facing to multiple surpression status to realistic maps to sectors to demolition physics to APCs getting muddy if your infantry walked through mud, everything was WC3-ified and it sucked.

>>717902691
>turn off the new and old graphics
based reading enjoyer

>>717909449
You thought a box with legs and arms was the coolest thing?

>>717909332
Nope, which is how you know its a soulless cash grab. Nightdive just gave Heretix+Hexen and the System Shock 2 remaster to previous owners for free in the past couple months, and Microsoft even gave everyone who owned the Gears of War remaster the new remake for free as well. There's no excuse.

are they going to do anything about the gay little planes that float 10 inches off the ground?

>>717909616
No, Eldar vehicles will remain unchanged.

>>717909469
DoW2 did do vehicle facing didn't it? Certain objects were also destructible, cover types and all buildings were anyway.

>>717909550
yes. pretty sure it was a night lords dreadnaught too.

>>717905610
>"defeated... the Imperial Guard"
Holy meds, IG gigachads canonically dunked on every army and in all 3 games, the traitor magpies lost bigly every time and especially that retarded faggot Gayvian Cuckle got dominated hard by superior IG chads and with his last heretical breath prayed to Chaos for succor.
>b-b-but muh magpie fanfic says...
Typical heretic drivel, has to shit out retarded fanfic when they can't handle the truth. IG won, magpies lost bigly.

>>717909664
It did. No idea what he's talking about, it had everything COH had.

>>717909761
The canon winners of the DLCs are
>Eldar (Taldeer survived and is being chased by the IG in Dark Crusade following Sturnn's death)
>Marines (Multiple links to DoW2; Taldeers Spirit Stone, Tarkus' missing hand, Avitus' betrayal stemming from his tour of the Guard HQ following the Ravens' victory there)
>Orks (Gorgutz won Kaurava, but then got bored and left which is how he ended up in DoW3)

>>717909714
I bow

>>717909947
>calling them DLCs
Oh my fucking god. Anon DoW was amongst the last games ever made to have actual expansion packs.

>new gay 40k logo instead of sovlful 3rd Edition old logo
>probably gonna have factions renamed to their new gay 40k version like Aeldari or Druhkari

Fuck James Workshop

>>717910002
the size of those service studs holy heck
mogging poor titus hard

>>717906063
Never heard about it before Firewarrior, of all things.
>Warhammer 40,000: Firewarrior? What a retarded name
>wow, spess humans are kind of dicks to those poor ayyys
A year later or so I played the demo for DoW and was immediately hooked. Extracted soundfiles of servitors and chaos slaves as system sounds for my shitbox PC.
>dad enters room
>"Hey son, are ya wi-"
>"YYYEEEESSSS MMASSTUUURRRR, HUWHAAT EVVUURR YUUU WHUUWANT"
>mfw

>>717908078
The only notable thing the magpies did in DoW3 was secure the loyalty of a Knight house after an Inquisitor wanted to abandon them for some epic plan, which failed and nearly got Chaplain Diomedes killed. Otherwise they sacrificed a Battlebarge to disable a shield protecting a frozen Bloodthirster then kicked its ass with the help of Macha and Gorgutz.

I wish I was making the last part up.

ok

is it gonna fun?
the story was boring
the characters boring
the gameplay was insanely obnoxiously boring

>>717901330 (OP)

How much will it cost and will there be a discount for original game owners?

>>717908867
>terminator drones
I just imagine loads of action figure-sized space marines in Terminator armor jetpacking onto my desk and shouting at me

>>717910002
I like how they had a telescope from orbit pointed to this tiny fucking hill to see if this tiny fucking banner would go up to see if the landing site was clear. But then they all die putting the banner up and so the landing site isn't even clear in the end.

>>717910181
fuck you

>>717910129
>gameplay boring

You have never known the joy of 2v2 humans vs highest difficulty CPU

>>717910240
Its the game mechanic personified, you plant the flag and you capture the base, then you drop your shit there

I agree though, but rule of cool > logic

>you will never get your head crushed between the thighs of your custodes gf
DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO

>>717910342
>DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO

>>717910342
im fine bro

Smells like old men in here. Nothing but old men in here. Only grandpas.

>>717910416
This is fan fiction nothing more

>>717910240
That isn't what was happening, space marine drop pods don't need secure landing zones. They're actually used as weapons more often than not. The sergeant putting the flag up and the drop pods coming down was simply cinematic coincidence.

>>717910342
>Wanting some alchemically roided cunt with a pile of chips on her shoulder
>Not an Eldar GF who would whip you into shape in both mind and body
Guilliman himself is about to decree the legalization of Eldar wives, anon. Get with the times.

>>717910493
this, wasn't cause and effect it just looked dope

>>717910102
YOU HAVE CHAPLAIN DIOMEDES.

>>717910493
The way these early videos were made were they were the pitch, they had a gameplay idea an d they wanted to show what it would FEEL like, think of it as a mood board for the game a feels if you will. They are meant to sell the idea to the big wigs and the final product would have hints of the proposed themes in the video.

They needed to be cinematic to get the attention of the pitch but they needed to reflect the themes of the gameplay

>>717910428
>GYATT NO CAP, DIS GEN-OMEGA SHIIEET SHO' SKIBBIDON'T BE RIZZIN MUH OHIO ONG
>t. (You) in 5 years

>>717901490
im a huge remake hater but this one could really use one

>>717910454
When the Femtodes comes to tell you to abandon this planet that your chapter has been bleeding on for a decade
I hated the three episodes of that fucking show.

>>717910454
GW legit got forced by stakeholders to walk it back.

>>717910650
Isn't canon

>>717910672
Yep, that shit was a red line big time

Amazon really want to just fuck everyone with globohomo shit and GW were going to do it, then they go pushback and realised there are in fact, like their space marines, hills to die on

I don't want to pay twice for games I already own. Why should I? I don't even use mods.

As much as I love these games, this shit's a cashgrab. Will wait for Total Warhammer 40K, I trust CA to fuck it up but still produce a fun game.

>>717910342
8th edition is incredibly gay. I was happy with sisters of battle being turned into imperial daemons by Big E.

>>717910571
Wait, if you do spoiler tags within a word, it just vanishes? Is that real?
C H AP L AIN

>>717910672
they haven't walked back shit
thefuck you on about
there are female custodes, full stop
>>717910748
>Isn't canon
Cmon man, its time to move on

>>717910810
I've been waiting for total war 40k for so fucking long bros

>>717902001
>Apparently its compatible with a bunch of popular mods already
That is only possible with small mods that change things like unit caps. It is not possible with anything that adds graphics, as 100% of those mods have to be retextured to match the remastered update. You can probably run increase unit cap mods with no issue, but the mods that add factions and units won't be valid for months if at all.

Unification is a good example of a mod that isn't going to be correct for a long while. It will be nice when it does but it's not going to be in 2 days.

>>717910808
Then dont :D
Pirate it if you want to check it out or dont

>>717910876
>>717910810
better get a comfy chair

>>717910868
Huh. Interesting. Has to have spaces around it.

>>717910871
No, it is not infact canon

>>717908078
Games Workshop wanted to rescale their miniature range (and wanted people to buy more miniatures by making older ones illegal) so called the new ones Primaris Marines.
They're physically taller than normal Marines who are now roughly the height of new Guard who are now called the Astra Militarum because it's more copyrightable than The Imperial Guard.

Custodes are another army who are marines but covered in gold.
They exist to protect the Emperor and fight enemies on Terra, which is now invaded every other year and houses one of the biggest tyranid genestealer cults in the galaxy, or something. The Custodes used to just be another army of men but that was changed to being a Super Marine faction quite some time ago. Oh and they were made up of men but then one was made a woman a year ago to try and test the waters for making female space marines to appeal to the elusive modern audience and it's not clear if games Workshop has decided if femmarines are going to be introduced in the next 3 or 10 years but it'll happen one day.

>>717908426
>imperial guard
>6ft/1.83m
In what galaxy of corpse starch rations are imperial citizens growing that big?

>>717910270

no u

>>717910493
There's a lot of stuff about space marine war banners actually having power too, sometimes they get slowly trickle charged like the formation of chaos gods, or librarians will just slap some psychic energy into them giving them varying abilities like warding off demons or making space marines stronger

No idea if any of this shit came after DoW tho

>>717910936
Average height in the imperium is higher due to people living on lower gravity worlds and ruthless eugenics to avoid mutants

>>717901330 (OP)
It barely looks different than how I remember the games. I'm sure the textures are a little crisper or whatever but it really doesn't do anything for me. Should've gone for a remake instead.

>>717905759
Dlc with new dark crusade style campaing but taking advange of 64 bit. Bigger maps and more units on map. Nids as new faction.
Would be moneh.

>>717910934
Yeah anon, despite the Femtodes being mentioned in the fucking Custodes codex and then appearing in one of the official animation episodes they are not canon because you said so.
Move on, find a better cause

>>717911046
They are not canon

It is fan fiction written by a commitee of producers who are exlusively ESG wokery producing useless npc's who tested the water for Amazon and got the reaction they expected, which is to say everyone rejected it as canon

>>717910808
>>717910810
These. I would have checked it out if they gave it to previous owners for free, but I have no interest in buying it. This is a total cash grab, just like that dogshit Space Marine remaster that they had to refund everyone for lmao

>>717910936
>In what galaxy of corpse starch rations are imperial citizens growing that big?
Only gigachads survive the back breaking labor and toxic environments to adulthood, so naturally manlets went extinct.

>>717911016
Side by side comparison images are basically impossible to tell apart. At best they made it brighter and removed the fog. Just seems like an AI hack job.

>>717911209
>which is to say everyone rejected it as canon
who is the is everyone you fucking tertiary

>>717910672
>>717910748
Femstodes had literally no impact on GW profits, which have only gone up in the past several years by record increases.
What most people don't get is that Femstodes isn't some SJW push; it's GW being generally retarded with their marketing ploys.
Custodes are the kost abhorrently bland and utterly boring faction in 40k, and they only exist as a faction in the first place because nobody bought them in HH and GW wants 40k players to buy the horrifically overprived resin Custodes vehicles.
From a lore standpoint there is literally nothing GW can do with Custodes. Every Custodes is exactly the same; an arrogant obnoxious cunt who hasn't actually done anything in the past 10,000 years except dick around pretending they're super cool guards in what's already the most secure planet in the galaxy.
They have no actual history, no actual lore, no notable characters, nothing.
On top of that Custodes also ate a fat nerf on tabletop this edition because in game they're annoying as fuck to fight.
So GW needed to add SOMETHING to generate buzz for the Custodes codex, and in their infinite stupidity they chose the make Femstodes because the process for making more Custodes is vague pseudo-magical bullshit unlike Marines.
In general though though this had little impact beyond some whining one way or the other since Marines still dominate 40k sales and Custodes are barely a blip.

>>717911000
I'd argue what about abhumans like ratlings and catachans but then I remembered ogryns and voidborn are much taller and would bring the average up.

>>717911317
So where are the models? Where are the minatures? Why has no piece of media depicting the custodes included a female except that one animation that was hated by all?

>>717901330 (OP)
>OG game is getting removed
>New game comes with the old game included so you can't buy the old game
>Also no free updates for you, pay it
Classic nu-Relic jewery

>>717911437
>So where are the models? Where are the minatures?
here

>>717909664
The vehicle facing and damage model was reduced in complexity and the visual destruction physics were made simpler. You could drive through a wall in coh and have the tanks suspension bounce around as it climbed over the rubble which was knocked out of a tank-sized hole in the wall, in DoW2 tanks smoothly glided through as entire square sections of wall were vaporized into a fine dust.
>>717909880
Surpression was reduced from supressed/pinned to only supressed, maps were awkwardly mirrored and artificial rather than being lived in places, control points had no associated sectors (which were highly important in coh), general visual detail (i.e TECHNOLOGY) was reduced, the fuel resource was removed, basebuilding was reduced to a vestigial appendage (coh had simplified basebuilding too but it also had a robust battlefield fortification system), you couldn't pick up heavy weapons anymore and generally IMO there was less cool shit you could do

>>717911507
Those are all men.

>>717910002
I need every single YTP with this guy, i love him

>>717910376
I FEEL THE WARP OVERTAKING ME
IT IS A GOOD PAIN

>>717911000
I'd say the amount of variance makes average meaningless here. Though if i had to I'd say the amount of worlds that favour shorter over larger in the long run trump the reverse.
>Death worlds (diet / health)
>Hive worlds (small spaces + fumes + diet)
>Ship-born (like hive world + regular gravity)
The taller people would likely be the agri worlds, like the actual nice ones like Gaunts Ghosts were from not the meat processing factory cities.
Just in general, imperial life ranges from utilitarian to grim for most people so I would imagine that the height you would expect from natural evolution would be offset and more by the society/environments

>>717911438
>OG game is getting removed
That's news to me, got a source?

So really you're just paying 20 to 30 dollars for the game being 64 bit something they could of easily just made a update to the anniversary edition. Absolute kikery

Anybody here has played picrelated?
Is an xcom clone but with Gray Knights.
I have always been interested on it and i have enjoyed xcom and some clones but never pulled the trigger.
I know it also added ordo assassins and some techmarine and dreadnaught in the dlcs so hopefully this spiced it up because playing grey knights sounds dull as fuck
Its like 25 with the dlc when its on offer but the fact that its not that well known tells me that it might suck a fat dong.

>>717911769
Exactly.

>>717911648
https://youtu.be/WIq1ev9K0Aw

>>717905610
The reason why they punched above their weight was because of those stolen relics...

>>717911770
they look goofy or is it just me

>>717910002
They removed the AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH scream from the trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozt22B0Wt-I

>>717911770
It's fine. There are far, far too many Warhammer games of this variety though in my opinion.

>>717911770
I played it and liked it a lot, but it does get repetitive near the end. It emulates the feel of XCOM very well and the production values are pretty good. I played it before any DLCs came out though.

>>717911981
It's a sort of cartoony art style, yes.

>>717912047
They restored the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiUectTy9Y

>>717912072
Really? Please tell me some of them. I want space marine XCOM but this was literally the only one I found that looked anywhere near decent. Even though I do not care for the gay knights.

>>717910650
Never watched the third episode but it was good, specially the femstodes one

>>717911770
It's decent. The DLCs aren't really good, and it's a bit of a tighter squad-based game than X-Com where you have small army to work with. The GKs themselves have enough variance mechanics wise to not be too same-y, but the game was clearly a bit of a budget project that's using the budget decently.
My biggest gripe is honestly that the enemy variety is pretty poor, it's just Nurgle daemons and Death Guard outside of the tutorial.

>>717912170
lmfao

Blud Rehvans are Primaris now

Literally Loyalist TSons

>>717912047
Visuals are nice but god they ruined the audio with the ingame voice quips

>>717911770
Everybody i've asked said the mechanicus one is way better but this is pretty solid too

>>717911324
>make tiny batch of plastic
>pat yourself on the back it sold out when you barely made any

>>717906063
the game has been out for a long time. the kids who got introduced to the warhammer universe via dow are the oldfags now

>>717912416
desu I want to play as space marines and not these gay ass monks with robot tentacles

>>717912189
Not exactly "XCOM", but there are just a lot of those turn based Warhammer games.

Space Hulk
Space Hulk Tactics
Rogue Trader
Mechanicus
Battle Sector
Gladius (More like Civ except combat is the only victory condition)
Mordheim (fantasy but it counts)
Sanctus Reach

I have probably missed a few.

>>717911438
>>New game comes with the old game included so you can't buy the old game
Why would you want to buy the old game assuming that you don't have it already?

this is the game where you mash the reinforcement button while fighting right?

>>717912282
>Loyalist TSons
wasnt this always the case (or atleast implied)?

>>717906063
nah, it was Space Hulk and then Horned Rat

>>717912685
You can right click it once to have it be automatic you silly willy

>>717912484
It's always funny to see GW fail upwards because for every bit of 40k they fuck up there's always somebody like >>717912650 who just wants more Marines, who GW leave mostly untouched as the golden goose faction ever since Primaris multiplied their profits astronomically.

>>717912746
sheeeeeit

>>717912680
owners of the entire original package wont receive definitive edition, people were at arms over it and steam forums had shills gargling on nurelic over a shitty discount.
but then i remembered that 40k "fans" these days are no better than blizzdrones and eats any shit GW gives them on a plate

A SPACE MARINE
INSIDE OF ANOTHER SPACE MARINE

>>717901330 (OP)
>improved unit pathing
>better battle camera/draw distance
Neato
If you try to play the original game today these are probably the biggest turnoffs
Next up would be rebalancing (just nerf tau & eldar), improving flying somehow and fixing all the stupid shit in the soulstorm campaign's gameplay
But if they deliver on that stuff it'll be worth a try probably

>>717913026
>owners of the entire original package wont receive definitive edition
Yes, I know and yes it's scummy, but that doesn't answer my question

How would (YOU) fix Dawn of War my fellow anonymous users?

I wish we still had Rogue Trader threads

Why should they give a remaster for free?

They're not 4chan janitors who work for free.

>>717913404
If they want money they should make a more substantial effort

>>717911317
"It is known that all Custodians begin their lives as the infant sons of the noble houses of Terra" The God Emperor over saw everyone of them if not most of their births, he was the only master of making them, each one a work of art never to be repeated, he could have made a female, but he did not. Now that he is on the golden throne who is making them? Glad you asked, it's Angenitist they have a passing knowledge as it states. For example it took 200 years for the Emerpor to make 10,000. It took them 9,000 years to make 9,000. So for a female custodian to be possible one: the Emperor didn't make them. 2: people who can't make them efficiently suddenly goes an entirely different route with the Emperor's "mastery of genetic alchemy" (Emerpor's words) and do it on an entirely new biology, when not even female space marines have been made, and do so successfully. In other words GameWork shop contradicts itself in impossible ways

>>717913075
they should make jump packs arc instead of go straight up so they don’t look stupid

Did anyone actually play online multiplayer? I didn't so I'll probably pirate it

>>717913404
Because it is the right thing to do, and many other companies have done so in recent years. Giving original owners a free copy and charging them for it is quite literally the line between a soulful remaster and a lazy cash grab.

>>717913536
No. I played 2 online a fair amount though.

Sisters of Silence and Sisters of Battle already exist
Why even push for female marines and custodes?

>>717910650
Why did you hate it? The imperium is a general shit show and not a good guy faction. The show is very much in line with that.
Just because Ghilliesuitman is in charge now doesn't mean the imperium is suddenly Marvel's Avengers where the good guys always win if they just try hard enough.
Pinning it on the custodes girl is completely pointless as she's just delivering the inhumane order from Terra... She is being a smug cunt about it but it's no less her choice than it is the Marine's.

>>717913629
>Why should someone give you free shit?
>Its the right thing to do :)
thank you Karl

>>717913629
No such thing as free remaster especially from old games.

If there was one it's a shitty game no one ever heard about.

The EA remasters weren't free, COH1 remaster wasn't free, Blizzard remasters weren't free either.

>>717913718
Because Custodes are, by their own nature, bland as fuck. You can't actually write stories around them unless it's about them being super duper mega awesome and not ever failing, because that's their entire gimmick.
So to make them more 'interesting' GW just made female ones exist.

>>717913718
and hyper-religious female Tallarn tankers

>>717913875
Tallarn women love Eldar cock.

>>717913718
Umm you can already sit at the back of the bus, why even push for sitting elsewhere???!

>>717913776
Quite literally every Nightdive remaster has been given for free to people who owned the originals (of games that were already available at least). Microsoft is giving the new Gears of War remake to everyone who already owned the Xbone remaster. There's no excuse here.

>>717913404
yes, because i already spent this month's extra money on rat poison

>>717913536
I played a fair bit and almost every game would be a complete stomp for one side. DoW1 is definately better than 2 ring around the rosie control point "gameplay" but has it's issues like snowballing and run and shoot (i think it got buffed in like dark crusade or something to make it more accurate which ruined balance in a bunch of areas like with eldar fleet of foot).

>>717913946
Hexen + Heretic is backed by Microsoft. Gears of War is backed by Microsoft. The DoW remaster is self published by Relic. Did they give the Age of Empires remaster away for free? No, they did not.

>>717913737
I didnt like that they brought my boy Sa'Kan back for the first episode
I didnt like the second episode at all, didnt vibe with the assassin and custodes duo and the ending felt like a gut punch. I much have rather the two of them wouldn't have joined the episode until the end instead of having to take part of the convoy of psykers.
I found the third episode bland, i didn't see the twist coming, so thats something but the rest of the episode i couldn't give a fuck about. That said i always found orcs boring. So i might have been biased.
>The imperium is a general shit show and not a good guy faction. The show is very much in line with that.
No problem with the lore at all, is not like i was expecting flowers songs an happy endings, is just that i found something to hate on every episode.
I might actually give Hammer a bolter a rewatch, i remember most episodes being sort of mediocre but having a couple good ones

>>717913919
>ironic shitposting

>>717913946
>There's no excuse here.
Relic is a broke independent studio
Nightdive and Microsoft are Microsoft and have literally infinite money and a giant monopoly
they are not comparable

>>717913919
>everything went to shit after they were allowed to sit wherever the fuck they want
You're making a solid case

You can tell you're speaking to turd world poorfags when they can't even afford a 30% off $30 remaster of a GOATed RTS.

>>717913737
>The imperium is a general shit show and not a good guy faction.
They're literally the heroes of 40k. The Emperor is the only thing stopping Chaos from woping out Humanity, and the rest of the Imperium is there to protect Humans from being murdered, enslaved, or eaten by aliens.
The Imperium are blatantly the good guys, only retards think otherwise.

>>717914360
Afford? It's not a matter of "afford", it's a matter of "I'm not buying this game I already own again".

>>717914276
How big is their monopoly? Are we talking lifesize? Like can i get get into the car and drive to Baltic Avenue?

I thought RTS was dead. Why are you all here?

>>717914661
Big beautiful Howling Banshee butts.

Okay guys great, now do DoWII next
>fucking Company of Heroes got 64 bit support before DoWII
Elite Mod team are keeping the multiplayer alive for this singlehandedly. They're getting close to releasing __________Tau

>>717914797
I once got to be in a game that Indrid did a cast of.
I was bad at the game and the comments really noticed.

>>717914941
You can reassure yourself with the fact that you're not Venjitron who literally has 70k hours in the game and still plays like a quadriplegic

>>717901330 (OP)
>Relic attempting a cash grab after the failure of CoH3?
definitely that. im surprised they didnt add any kind of ladder or ranking to the games at all.

>>717914625
its much larger, bigly huge

I eagerly await the 64bit support, if only for when you get tons of persistent bodies on screen to not cripple performance.

>>717914797
Relic hated 40k until CoH3 bombed

Also DOW2 doesn't need a remaster, it still works on modern PCs

DOW1 doesn't and Soulstorm only supports 1080p

>j-jjjust m-mod/edit files
Nope, there's a reason why old games get remastered

What do you do as Tau if the enemies manage to get into melee with your fire warriors?

I heard they screwed up with Space Marine's remaster, even with the permanent 30% discount I'm holding off until others check it out

If its Stronghold DE or AoE2DE tier I'd buy it in an instant

>>717915251
The fuck are you on about? DoW1 and its expansions all work perfectly fine on W10.

Does this game have co-op I just wanna run around with a bro

>>717915279
Always bring kroot or never get into melee

>>717915251
>Also DOW2 doesn't need a remaster, it still works on modern PCs
It doesn't need a remaster but it badly needs 64 bit support because its performance is gimped without it
>t. 4080 and 7800X3D

>>717911000
Humans in 40k come from literally millions of different planets, so I think an average like that is hard to call

>>717915360
Dawn of War II and its expansions have coop but the OG games don't

>>717915360
>>717915573
You can host multiplayer skirmish games against bots.

Tends to get testy with desync issues when you do a 4v4 if there are just a ton of units, wonder if they fixed that stuff.

>>717915279
>Fall back so other units can fire on the enemy
>Bring Kroot
>Write off the loss and move on knowing the Fire Warriors will at least buy some time.

>>717901490
Absolutely needed updates because the mods were struggling with the shitty engine and pathfinding and AI falling to bits. UE in particular is borderline unplayable.

i remember running 1v7 games, the brutal ai would just turtle on their base and send small groups to my base or capture points
if they let ai control large armies it's a day 1 buy for me

If they are going to remaster the game, maybe fix the difficulty of the AI. The problem is that harder AI in campaign isn't smarter but the game just give them triple health bar.

>>717910090
titus has a bigger head since hes a primaris marine

>>717906640
>Why do retards think that GW have a hate boner for old stuff when they keep making references to those times again and again and again

apparently this has to do with copyrights. GW was told they can't just copyright stuff like "space marine", "chaos marine" or "orks" since they're way too generic so they had to make up some special donut steels that are unique enough to not be confused with stuff that happens in every other sci-fi or fantasy novel

>>717915874
>the brutal ai would just turtle on their base and send small groups to my base or capture points
Thats because the CPU couldn't even leave their base, it'd be clogged with their own units.

>same exact thing but with a widescreen mod and ai upscaled textures
why would I buy this?

>>717914797
I can't believe this game/mod is still alive. I mean. It's one of my favorite games ever with 2000 hours played back in the day and I also loved watching people play it too. More fun to watch for me than a bunch of esports.
And Elite mod is such an amazing mod. After playing ranked back in the day on Vanilla Retribution, the switch to Elite mod is such a fucking night and day improvement.
…buuut I also haven't played in almost 15 years.
You're actually telling me they now somehow found the drive to add a whole other faction? Crazy.

>>717915228
DATZ ALOTTA GITZ

>Paying for glorified patch
lol

They should give this the Stronghold DE/AoE2DE treatment with more DLC from other factions.

Add Tyranids, Mechanicus, Custodes, Inquisition, any pre-Primaris faction present.

>>717915228
DoW with the Ultimate Apocalypse mod was the only thing that satiated my desire for mass scale 40k warfare.

I fucking loathed the small unit sizes in DoW 2, I was naively expecting they'd make all the unit sizes bigger and have like a gazillion corpses on a battlefield after every game.

>>717912170
Yeah, they noticed people didn't like the loss of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH one bit. At least they're listening, plenty of devs would get passive agressive about it and double down.

>>717901330 (OP)
>What are your thoughts?
Cautiously optimistic
It'll be a good excuse to go back to it with the same friends I played it to death with decades ago, and at a glance, it seems like one of the better remasters as of late. All the tech upgrades involved should make it easier to run the bigger dick Apocalypse mods too without the game coming apart at the seams

>>717916806
The Orks need to calm down with the Gargant spam though. The improved 64 bit support and memory cap might help, but that's not gonna stop them from putting their effectively limitless pop cap into pushing out as many Gargants as possible. Holy FUCK, they fucking love spamming those things, you stop seeing ork infantry units because there are so many vehicles on the field.

>>717906063
For me it was going into a GAYMES WORKSHOP and trying to buy two space marine bikes because the art work was cool

>>717901628
>>717905197
>>717909010
>>717910623
>>717915805
>charging $40 for an update

>>717917373
You're not gonna drum up much anger about it anon, most of us are happy to pay for future proofing for the next 10 or 20 years.

>>717917373
I bet you could pirate it and play with friends via Hamachi anyways.

>>717916273
Grey Knights are a fully fleshed-out faction for Elite Mod too with 3 heroes. The Eversor Assassin and Daemonhunter are a lot of fun to play, the latter moreso in team games. A rework of IG is apparently also in the works

Can't wait for thief-in-chief grorc to update titanium wars. It is my most beloved mod as it keeps the campaign intact (and adds a lot to it making it harder) unlike most other big mods which just focus on skirmish mode.

>NP: Bolt Thrower - World Eater

>>717913629
How many people do you think are going to buy this that don't already own the originals?

>>717917554
They already had Grey Knights last time I played. The mod basically launched with them. Though they only had one commander available when I still played. Cool that they fleshed that out.

oooh, just in time for a booze fuelled waaagh across the karuva system. i'm gonna get hammered and then hammer some beakies into the dirt.

>>717912072
A turn-based tabletop wargame having a lot of turn-based strategy and tactics video games adaptations is hardly surprising

>>717908179
>its expansions a bit less
I'm pretty sure Dark Crusade was liked as much, if not more, compared to the original

>>717901330 (OP)
>AoE2 Definitive Edition
New campaigns, new civs, completely redone visuals, built-in mod support and browser, official ranked and first party tournaments for MP
>DoW Definitive Edition
Upscaled textures and nothing new

Yeah, I ain't buyoughting this shit.

>>717918370
>wanting new content from Relic
lol
lmao
kek even

>>717918370
>New campaigns, new civs, completely redone visuals
All of this came later and the new visuals came with the cost of decomposing corpses
>official ranked and first party tournaments for MP
Yeah, because AoE 2 competitive scene is big enough to justify it, compare the views that the average AoE 2 tournament use to get vs the ones that DoW get now

>>717910231
Kek based literal thinker

>>717914797
>Elite SHIT
lol nobody cares about your shit mod. You're a laughing stock

>Install UA
>Play mission 6
Oh my fucking god!

>>717918758
Laughing stock of what? Retribution vanilla hasn't had any updates in nearly 15 years

>>717901330 (OP)
pirate day 1, buy when it sells for $10

>>717913718
Because if men are doing anything without a woman present they're conspiring against women and must be stopped.

>>717919103
b-but didn't they just release the Tau Commander for Last Stand?

>>717919226
feminism will also except a black or jewish commissar to monitor the men

Is it me or ranged Terminators Squad in Ultimate Apoc isn't that good?
Also what are the odds that the detector Land Raider will have its detection ability as passive? having to constantly click it while playing against Eldar was ass

>>717913718
It's specifically to destroy something men like, there's no deeper reason. They have a huge chip on their shoulder because they've been told they should have a chip on their shoulder.

>>717906063
Nope i remember playing Dark Omen

I can't enjoy DoW after learning I just have to rush to kill the enemy without building and I win.

Also what about those mods that add every single army and unit to the game? Doesn't seem like this is a huge improvement.

>>717919635
>I can't enjoy DoW after learning I just have to rush to kill the enemy without building and I win
Stop playing on easy. AI on the higher difficulties scale up faster because they're allowed to cheat with requisition and power to the point they'll be rushing (You).

>>717917892
I imagine not many people will be buying it at all. Maybe when it drops to $5. I'm fully expecting this to hit mostly negative reviews right away anyway when it has performance problems and issues that the original doesn't and once people realize they bought something that barely looks any different from what they already had.

>Upscaled textures and shadows
I sleep
>More Macha porn
REAL SHIT

fix dark crusade. the computer fucking cheats at it by having multiple bases

Soulstorm was NEVER good, what a fucking drop in quality when you compare it previous titles
>But muh new races
ALL SHIT
>Air
Also shit + buggy

>>717916356
YEW KNOW DA RULEZ!

>>717920019
you can also build multiple bases

>>717920042
Soulstorm was made by a B-Team hired by THQ while Relic was making DoW2. Said team then had a push from corporate to include flyers (likely at GW's pressuring) when the engine itself REALLY did not allow for it.
So due to both of these factors a lot of the coding for Soulstorm got fucked up, leading to more bug fixing being required on an already accelerated schedule.
Keep in mind that DoW2 released only a year after Soulstorm.

>>717906063
There is literally nothing WH40k related in 10s of kilometers around me, besides the 3 disc jewel box of DoW1 at the time of it's release. I've managed to get some PDF lore books later on, when I got into DnD3.5. Little dudes were rare and cost absurd amount of money back then, plus no places to play.

>>717920008
This anon knows.

>>717920261
ROITE YA GITZ
FRUM DIZ 'ERE DAY ONWAAGH'D I'ZE CALL'D WAAAGHBOSS BEAKIE

>>717920008
Macha is a virgin who will never get laid

>>717920326
soulstorm cleaned up the engine a lot, despite some embarrassing SoB/DE bugs it’s still way less buggy than the previous expansions which were never patched

>>717920042
>>717920326
What secondaries don't know is iron lore fixed hundreds of bugs left by relic. There was a truly massive list that the community collated on the old relicnews forums that relic itself ignored for years. Iron lore specifically tackled a huge chunk of that list as part of soulstorm development. Shit like the squiggoth's zzap guns having different damage values depending on which of the two are firing for example.

>>717913525
I made them.

>>717920703
Pin-ups are fine.
Not like Eldar are worth much beyond porn.

>>717920785
They were very hit and miss, the less obvious bug fixing is just overshadowed by the bullshit that was very obvious in Soulstorm. I think the most egregious thing was how they handled the campaign compared to Dark Crusade. The commanders don't banter during stronghold missions and territory bonuses are tied to stronghold territories instead of neutral ones like in DC. The flier units are ignorable, but making Necron scarabs fliers that can only attack other fliers was just downright baffling.

>>717901330 (OP)
Time for people to realize warhammer is actually pretty awful

>>717901330 (OP)
>charging money for what volunteers would do (and have done) for free, without invasive [current year] editorialization
I won't give nu/relic a single cent and I won't even pirate this garbage.

>>717901330 (OP)
Cool, but why exactly do you have to lie
>better battle camera/draw distance without using that one "mod" that was actually a memory edit of the exe
About this specifically? One still can download "Better Camera Mod for DoW" and just open it and see that it is in fact not a "memory edit of the exe".
Some suspicious marketing here, huh?

>>717921376
Source code integration is less janky than the method mods use and proper 64 bit support is something modders cannot do at all, but go off I guess.

>>717917373
I'm literally pirating it

>>717921095
>Eldar get the best flyer.
Take the battle to the enemy.

>>717921289
It's not awful. Just very one note and shallow. And has kind of run its course at this point.

>>717921746
Weren't Eldar just all around stupidly broken?

>>717920291
yours disappear

>>717921791
it's not one note or shallow. it all depends on the writers.

>>717907448
>>717907360
How do they even get this weapons? Do Blood Raven scouts go out and steal stuff as initiation?

>>717921889
Yep. Mostly in terms of infantry though. There is no reason not to have Fleet of Foot on at all times.

>>717921918
No sir Lord Inquisitor, they are all gifts. Yes, legally obtained gifts from other legio-err-chapters.

>>717921914
No. It is. It has no creative spark and no depth. There's nowhere to take it. There aren't endless possibilities with it. It is exactly what it appears on surface, and that's fine, but it does grow stale and I'm tired of people pretending this has anything close to the texture and depth of other sci-fi and fantasy universes when it simply doesn't, and doesn't have room to be by its very nature as a combat board game.

>>717919635
thats every rts also there are absolutely ways to counter this, the age old rts method is SCOUTING. just scout and then if you respond to their rush, they will be at a disadvantage

The visual clarity in the remastered screen shots looks worse. The upgrade quality of the units is questionable as well. It's a very marginal upgrade if at all.

>>717922137
I think you're just disillusioned. Maybe an SM2 victim? There's a lot of depth and endless ways one can approach a 40k story. It's not all just "guard shoot at ork x3000" The only thing I think is that it feels like they can barely have major developments or it will ruin the franchise.

>>717902430
This would be the equivalent to someone in 2010 complaining about a game not being 16bit.

>>717912170
fucking lol, well thanks guys. the new audio was stupid

>>717922065
Well, thank you for clearing that up, Master Acquisitor Jay'Quarius Longfinger!

>>717921525
I was mistaken, got the camera and fog removal mixed up. The fog removal is 100% a hex edit of the Soulstorm exe that a bunch of competitive Dawn of War Russian players cooked up.

https://github.com/Fragjacker/DoW-Mod-Manager/blob/master/DoW%20Mod%20Manager/FogRemover.cs

>>717921659
In other words you are fine with being charged a premium for what amounts to a patch? You do understand that any extra (textures etc) -- that has never been asked for, mind you -- primarily serves the purpose of legitimizing the sale on paper right?

>>717901330 (OP)
used to play the original vanilla dow pretty competitively back in the day. got up to like 1600 before the queues dried up. most people spammed quick match custom games and that shit was unbalanced trash. you could rush enemy players with eldar and spam gates and turrets by their base, was funny af.

>>717901330 (OP)
Do you guys remember the inquisitor that was black? Crazy times

>>717922714
i for one am i excited for pvp in the remaster. sure, playerwise it will never be an AoE killer or even take SC2's playerbase, but im excited nonetheless.

>>717922740
Toth was a cool guy. he had PRESENCE.
and presents (the godsplitter)

>>717901330 (OP)
Weird now that I go back to DoW 1, I notice that they are 0 (ZERO) female units in the imperial guard. Guess it was made before GW started pushing female guardsmen shit.

>>717922964
In DoW 2 the inquisitor is the only female unit for IG. I don't remeber if IG had any other female unit

>>717901628
I keep seeing people talk about this but I've never seen anyone post what's actually improved

>>717921976
it lowers accuracy

>>717922694
>In other words you are fine with being charged a premium for what amounts to a patch?
Yes, the sale justifies the patch work, otherwise it wouldn't have flown with corporate and we wouldn't have gotten the future proofing the game needs at all.
>You do understand that any extra (textures etc) -- that has never been asked for, mind you -- primarily serves the purpose of legitimizing the sale on paper right?
I understand that and I don't care about it since I'll just be installing UA right away, which has its own models and textures anyway. Almost nobody is grinding their teeth anon, a DoW that will continue to work for 10 or 20 more years is well worth the cost.

Who cares, you'll be murdered by Chaos rushing you with Raptors or Eldar as a whole anyway

>>717923084
Because the game is not out, idiot.

>>717922964
they were just cheap
I think literally every unit they have is voiced by the same guy

>>717901330 (OP)
no console release?
FUCK YOU

>>717922964
In old lore there were always female guardsman units, it just so happens that when it comes to dying in the billions Games Workshop omits mass womyn death and only portrays dudes as dying for the Imperium.

Adding actual female commanders are a recent thing, usually females in 40k are either Bolter bitches, Inquisitors, Sisters of Silence and Astropaths/Navigators.

>>717922964
well sisters of battle were in the very next game werent they?

>>717923103
Only while on the move, which was piss poor anyway. As soon as a squad stops, they get their full accuracy back regardless of Fleet of Foot being on. On top of attaching shuriken or bright lance platforms to squads, Eldar can churn out base destroying squads and get them into position faster than any other faction. Even fucking faster than that if you exploit bonesinger teleports and webway gates.

>>717923350
You forgot vect's tits out slave girls on his dais.

>>717923323
so why are we citing it if we have no examples?

>muh rush
Compniggers and MPniggers need to be put in their place and get roped

>>717923426
>mfw call of war fleet of foot banshees move faster than landspeeders

>>717923350
The first Ciaphas Cain book has a major focus on the Valhallan regiment he was attached to being a Mixed regiment comprised of the remnants of two formerly All-Male and All-Female regiments being combined. Naturally it led to inter-regimen tension (and pregnancies) but when thhings were ordered out it was the head of the Female regiment who was given command over the whole and she was declared Colonel.
Said book came out in 2003.

>>717923561
Just telling it like it is Anon. I don't use the Eldar that way, but I know that they can.

New thing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gV1AH4lga0

>>717923561
>t. QS 10 mins no rush fag
>[who rushes anyway]
I had great delight in obliterating such players back in the day as 10 minutes was about 6 minutes longer than I needed to build a base annihilating force.

>>717923239
Continue financially rewarding corporate for churning out minimally viable products and upselling you patches after the fact. I am sure this will work out for you, anon.

>>717923697
DoW's support period ended years and years ago. They would have been content to leave it dead and put out more slop like DoW3.

>>717922964
>It's woke if women are in the guard
>It's woke if women aren't in the guard
well which one is it?

>>717901330 (OP)
>improved unit pathing
good.

Are they bringing back the LAN multiplayer that they gutted from the steam release? Or am I gonna still be using an old CD rip?

>>717923678
I don't play MP because I'm not a MPnigger

MPniggering doesn't belong in RTS

>>717923465
People citing what has been claimed by the devs. Waiting for 3 days to see if it is actually true isn't going to kill you.

>>717923863
>Are they bringing back the LAN multiplayer
Probably not, the backlash wasn't bad enough

>>717923636
I think they nerfed Taldeer's chest.

>only dvd compatible
Ah, I remember people seething at relic that DC required a dvd drive.

>>717923636
RTS boomers, we're back

>>717924082
Yeah but DC was one of those games where you could install and play without the disk too. That was how I played the game in the first place, borrowing it off a friend and giving it back to him the next day.

>>717923892
when the only advertised differences from the old version are dubiously upscaled textures, getting upgraded to 64 bit, and improved pathfinding there should be ample evidence of how the pathfinding is improved three days from release if they're trying to sell this to me for 30+ bucks

>>717923636
man im used to las being red these days. blue is for plasma

>>717923807
>DoW's support period
All the more reason to patch it to recover some trust and show the bare minimum of goodwill towards the community.

>>717924030
Nah, it's still the same, the armor just has more detail and shading so it blurs a bit. Honestly kind of weird Taldeer's bust is so big, that's unusual for Eldar who are practically skinny ayys.

I'm still salty they changed the voice for the nobs for DC. The original and WA voice was much more guttural.

>>717924357
>they should devote dev time to doing a bunch of work for free on a game that released over 20 years ago! :D
Anon just say you want free things already, it'll come out on GoG, so you can pirate it with zero effort anyway.

>>717924371
Taldeer is a powerful wiz-I mean psyker.
And mag-I mean psychic energy is stored in the boobs.

>they fixed font scaling
PRAISE THE EMPEROR

>>717923636
They keep advertising new assets and graphics

Looks like all of the bugs are still there

>>717924554
You realise Farseers are partially crystallised under their armour right?

>>717924430
The Orks were progressively shifted more and more towards comedic and cartoonish in their voice acting and dialogue as the games went on.

They should uncap most of the squads, like in vanilla
>2 fucking tanks
Fuck this shit, gimme more

>>717923636
>better shadows
>better pathfinding
>font tism
Still looking bretty good even if I know that fucking monkey's paw is going to curl somewhere

>>717924030
I think the top down lighting and new detail makes her chest seem more definite and smaller than the past. Need a real professional elffucker monkeigh to do measurements

>>717924337
Watch the recent video and see how the vehicles move with the units. You'll know the pathfinding if you aren't a poser.

>>717905618
Cool. They gave me the original games for free on Steam. Neat company.

>>717923350
Do Vostroyan Firstborn have all male guardsmen?

>>717924665
The monkey's paw already curled, AI was used for a lot of the upscaling as a base and then tweaked afterwards to look more natural.

>>717924794
So? It is an RTS where the majority of the view will be zoomed out.

>>717924667
all I saw was a land raider still getting stuck on the pathable map boundary
it shouldn't be difficult to do a side by side of two identical sets of mixed units clumped together from both versions and show off how they react differently to a general move command

>>717924620
Yes anon, I've seen that LewdAnon art of Macha as well.

>>717924857
Yeah, that was the monkeypaw, not my fault it's not a catastrophic consequence that'll make people scream to the heavens in sorrow. It's really just a mild thing that might annoy you if you're an activist about this kind of thing.

>>717901330 (OP)
I hear from the biggest mods, notably Unification, this has potential technical benefits. However, I'm going to be very, very pissed if this is not available at an absolute pittance and/or free for existing owners of the Anniversary Edition. No way I'm buying it for anything more than a couple bucks.

>>717924889
The what? No, farseers actually do crystallise over time. It's a whole thing where they eventually turn into living statues in some seer garden on their craftworld because most of them spend a lot of time sitting absolutely still sorting through potential futures.

>>717925030
$20 if you already have the game. $30 if not.

>>717925030
No remaster has ever gone for free, stop being a poorfag or wait 2-3 years later for a sale.

>>717901330 (OP)
>updated for modern hardware
The sins of a solar empire and star wars empire devs did this for free.

>>717914441
eldar are the good guys, the imperium has black people in it

>>717925030
lmao poor. pretty sure you don't even own a mini.

>>717925158
Quake 2 remaster was free for owners of the original

>>717925161
>solar empire and star wars empire
zzz

>>717925181
Necrons are the only good guys

>>717925128
Yeah anon
And Lewdanon drew porn of Macha where her forearms and lower legs had crystallized
Porn aside it's pretty neat

>>717923863
>>717923925
theres a mod to just put LAN back in (or make it selectable again idk) so maybe you can just use that on the remsster?

>RTS game
/v/ sleeps
>RTS game, with shitty toy figure product placement
:OOOOOOOOO

EA kicking their own ass for not having a Red Alert 2 and Generals remaster

Relic hated 40k that they doubled down on CoH for a decade

>WE WANT the LAN mode BACK!!!
>ok, who will actually play it?
>cricket sound

>>717925290
Yeah, good games get free updates

>>717923276
who the fuck builds raptors, chaos sucks and can only rush heavy bolters or rush preds

>>717914441
>the Imperium is there to protect Humans
>from being murdered
This actually happens all the time, even to people who don't deserve it because of how retard the Lex Imperialis is.
>enslaved
This is literally the normal state of affairs for most imperial citizens.
>or eaten by aliens
I guess it's fine if you're just being eaten by other humans instead after you're rendered down into corpse starch.

There are no good factions in 40k, you only have good individuals making the most of an incredibly shitty situation. Like the Space Wolves going to war against the Inquisition to save people who fought against Chaos with them. The Inquisition wanted to neuter them all and put them in forced labour camps until they died. Institutionally, the Imperium is bad in its own unique ways to other factions.

>>717925597
wake me up when it's Star wars Galactic Battleground.

>>717925578
It was already there in the first place
why remove a feature that harmed no one but people that might want to do LAN Parties?

>>717925130
Fucking
>$20
That's some bullshit if you own the complete other set already. I'd accept $10 IF it was a great fucking remaster with real improvements in tech, aesthetic and perhaps new content. Anything more, it had better be massively improved and overhauled vs the original and that is closer to a remake rather than a remaster.
>>717925158
Oh fuck off. There are DEs and Remasters that are cheaper. Hell, Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster was only $10 etc. If its a "remaster" basically with the same content and just some newer higher res graphics etc.. then fuck them for charging more. The ones that cost more have been notably different, like the Age of Empires DEs (which added entirely new content as well and overhauled AOEII and AOEIII stuff) plus Age of Mythology being a true Remake which also had new content. Many "remasters" are cheap and you sycophantic throwing money at these fags for a minor discount for some new textures is frustrating. The same bullshit happened with Spess Mahreen Master Crafted, unless they've done something magical recently.

>>717925327
Just looked it up. Neat!

>>717923426
guess i’m thinking of dow2 fof

I'd accept $30 if they also remastered DoW2.

$20 is fine. if they fix the intro back to the old one, then the rest should be fine. i'll probably buy it in the first day or two and play it.

>>717925472
It's not /v/, just /tg/tourists

>>717926367
they already redid the intro with the old audio

so will the game not crash anymore when theres more than 10 units on screen?

Still buying but I feel like they could’ve upscaled the textures more. Like it barely looks better than the og

>>717926486
just don’t play dark crusade

>>717926524
No point to further upscaling since you're not gonna be zoomed all the way in and higher detail hurts readability.

>>717926524
They literally just ran it through AI. They put zero effort into this and it offers nothing the original doesn't already have.

>>717923636
>states to click singleplayer and get the choice between the different expansions with all 9 factions available
>doesnt say directly you can choose which expansion for multiplayer while also having all 9 factiosn available
does this mean i cant play dark crusade multiplayer? i hated soulstorm.

You faggots are genuinely retarded if you think moving to 64bit alone isn't worth 20$. Guess DoW1 is truly only played by thirdworld poorfags who bought it once in their local worthless currency price or on steam sale for 3$.

>>717906063
We had a hobby shop in town when I was a kid around age 9-12 IIRC that had tabletop war game kits but all they really had that was even remotely similar to Warhammer 40,000 was fucking Mutant Chronicles Warzone.

I had a couple Warzone kits, never knew what they were for, just played with 'em like regular toys. Cybertronic corps was my favorite.

I legitimately didn't know what Warhammer 40,000 was until Dawn of War came out, correct.

>>717901330 (OP)
>What are your thoughts?
It's still the same Dawn Of War, ergo it's borring.

>>717926910
I have never once had issue playing this game on all three or 4 different 64bit systems I've owned since I bought the game on Steam 17 years ago. Enough with this dumb gaslighting.

>>717926910
Anyone who's into modding understands how big the 64 bit move is, it's just a bunch of third world browns crying and pissing and shitting and cumming themselves because they can't afford 20 USD.

>>717926524
You're buying a patch, retard. Please kill your parents so that the universe has no chance to create others like you

>>717926910
>You faggots are genuinely retarded if you think moving to 64bit alone isn't worth 20$
But it isnt. They are not changing anything, not fixing anything.

>>717927050
You're an idiot. It's not that the game does not work on 64-bit systems, it's that the game does not support them.

>>717927102
64-bit support, improved pathfinding, unit shadows, increased resolution, upscaled graphics, you're gay.

>>717927187
The pathfinding was always fine and it has always worked on 64bit. Dumb shill.

>>717905682
Bad pathfinding is fucking ass, I seen enough eternal conga lines of soldiers getting murdered by two towers to last me a lifetime

>>717927187
So nothing important

>>717927102
They directly said they are addressing and fixing old bugs in the latest dev blog, get turbo cancer

>>717927050
>4 different 64bit systems
Current operating systems still run 32 bit program support, you have no idea how close we are to that capability being dropped. In 10 or 20 years, hardware and software configurations would no longer be able to run it. This guarantees DoW is future proofed against being lost.

>>717926910
The fact that they want it for free says a lot

These turd worlders bought the anniversary edition for $3 and can only run it on their toasters

The Definitive Edition requires a slightly more powerful toaster they cannot afford so they're mad

>>717925472
>Warcraft 3 thread
i sleep
>Age of Empires 2 Redbull Tournament thread
i sleep
>W40K thread
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>717927397
>The fact that they want it for free says a lot
They can have it for free, they can just pirate it. Nothing they can do about needing better computers though, guess third world monkeys will be filtered out of multiplayer lobbies from now on. Now THAT is worth 20 bucks.

>>717927336
So nothing about fixing flyers, fixing gameplay

>>717927115
>works perfectly
>"not supported"

???????

>>717927249
>>717927316
This. The shills for this are so fucking stupid. Not getting gaslit about this nothingburger cash grab.

>>717920689
YA GIT YA PAINTED THE WEBM RED

>>717918302
Dark Crusade is considered peak, but that's only because of the interpersonal dialogue during the campaign. Eldar were still broken, Necrons and Tau were mega broken, and Chaoscucks and Orkniggerswere unbelievably screwed over.

>>717927565
64 bit operating systems still have a mode that runs 32 bit programs. DoW is a 32 bit program and depends on that mode to run. Eventually newer OS's will no longer include the 32 bit mode and hardware incompatibilities will only continue to mount as well. This was always the primary concern in DoW modding since there's only limited number of things we can do and options are shrinking as the years pass. Now that the game is 64 bit native and can use more memory without being jank, it'll keep running for decades.

>>717927187
>64-bit support, improved pathfinding, unit shadows, increased resolution, upscaled graphics,
THIS IS LITERALLY WC3 REFORGED-TIER FEATURES!!!
Relic wants to make somekind of come back and they refuse to add anything new, maps, factions, campaigns, game modes, gameplay revamp or balance patches

>>717928125
Maybe they'll make a third DoW, it was always weird that they stopped after two games.

>>717928125
That's because they are too busy milking microtransactions in Company of Heroes 3 and the bare minimum level of support into AoE4.

>>717927393
>>717927937
This is nonsense and not worth a cent. Be gone pajeet

>>717927836
For me DC is peak because it's the best addition to the game compared to what came before it. WA was pretty cool although the faction pairings were kind of funny. Meanwhile DC adds two good factions, introduces a new campaign mode and still manages to throw out some new units and skirmish maps. Plus if you were a poorfag you only needed it to play online (I forget if single player modes had the same restrictions to faction selection)

Meanwhile SS has essentially the same campaign but with less SOVL, two factions that are a bit weak and a new type of unit that no one likes. It's got the most content and fixed some bugs and balancing fuckery so it is still the best but DC definitely added more.

I do still wish Iron Lore got the chance to do more, as a little bit of campaign polish and improvements to the souls/faith system would have gone a long way. They also wanted to add different units IIRC, but were forced to abandon them due to time constraints after Relic insisted on flying units.

>>717928671
>pic
This with the text on top is the only wh40k related meme my uninitiated friends ever laughed at, I fucking love it.

>>717928671
>the faction pairings were kind of funny
Crull and Gorgutz remain an absolute comedic duo to this day.

Hope we'll get physical edition in a metal bawxs

>>717927249
Thew pathfinding is so good broadsides had to be patched from 3 dudes in a unit to 1 because they kept getting separated when walking and would never end up close enough to each other to deploy.

>>717929271
Problem with that is that they have individual movement speeds with no catchup checks thrown in like some other infantry squads have, so if any of them have to turn or get stuck on vehicles, map geometry or other units, the gap between them grows.

How is this still the best 40k game

>>717923636
we are so fucking back

>>717925305
>Necron
*destroyers
miss me with that la-dee-dah
>OH MY H*CKIN' SPESS SOIENCE, MUH PERSONALITY ENGRAMS ARE BUGGY WAAAH
shit

>>717929592
its the only game that has been able to competently translate the scale, tone, and general combat principles of the game its based on without having to resort to being turn based and thus a watered down version of the tabletop
4th/5th edition was also a relatively stable period in terms of the setting's writing and the faction's designs and for similar reasons trying to make a new dawn of war in the modern setting would suck fat nuts

>>717901330 (OP)
Honestly cant wait, i was sold at 64 bit and better path finding.

but after seeing the gameplay and how SMOOTH it looks im 100% buying.

>>717922835
i'm curious how balanced the expansions were since i never played them. original vanilla favored eldar heavily due to fof micro. after that, sm, orks, and chaos were pretty even i recall. there was even some esports tourny and i think finals was charlie vs select, with charlie playing orks and select winning as eldar.

>>717928813
Waaaaggh, Mr Bond.

>>717930281
>and for similar reasons trying to make a new dawn of war in the modern setting would suck fat nuts
Oddly enough we got to see exactly how a modern DoW4 would go thanks to AoS.
>Outsourced to a studio that has no experience wirh RTS
>Factions are picked by GW based on what they want to sell, not what's popular
>Setting is limited solely to the then-current 'narrative' locale; likely the Pariah Nexus
>Every unit will look specifically how they do on Tabletop with no variation except for what the box set for them offers, if that (though the models will look decent, at least)
>Every unit will behave how they do on tabletop, which in turn will fuck over the gameplay completely by trying to translate a turn-based strategy game to a real time one
>Significant characters and units will be held back as DLC, which will be fine for huge rosters like Marines but cripple other factions. Said units will likely also be broken to promote their sales both in game and (theoretically) on tabletop
>When the game fails due to GW's decisions and doesn't actually improve tabletop sales, they'll just shutter it and move on (also happened with DoW3)

>>717930889
not reading your post just laughing at this game. and that it even came out. lol.

>>717930550
melee got hurt massively when SS reduced i-frames, which really hurt orks and lolchaos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gV1AH4lga0


Video of what's new in the Definitive Edition.

>>717930951
Oddly enough being set in AoS was among the least of the game's issues.
Imagine if they made DoW4 and then announced that the playable factions are
>Ultramarines
>Emperor's Children
>Genestealer Cultists
>Leagues of Votann
And that it all took place on a barren desert planet.
That's what RoR was to AoS.

Real shill hours

>>717931407
>Leagues of Votann
Who

>>717930889
its the story with everything that comes out these days that has a GW property license outside of some very small scale strategy games that are at most published by slitherin
there's a lot of 40redditor newfags bandwagoning the recent surge in vidya that have no understanding of how shitty everything being shoveled out is
the best games that have released recently are SM2, which has anemic content, dreadful parryslop gameplay, and a completely dead post release roadmap, and rogue trader, which is a typical owlcat game that is buggy and broken with the last half or third of the game practically empty until they fill it with content from dlcs (maybe)

>>717905197
It's not, they did an update awhile ago

>>717931723
Squats, un-squatted in more ways than one.

>>717931723
Dwarves

>>717931723
squats but gay

>>717931723
New space dwarf faction they just added a few weeks ago as a revision of the long forgotten and erased Squats

>>717901330 (OP)
while nice, its honestly something that should have been a small dlc at best since it doesn't really do enough to warrant a full remake, I will either wait for it to get really dirt cheap or if they introduce a new campaign and faction to buy it

>>717931305
>bare ass red brick background
that doesn't bode well bros

>>717932787
Should be free for owners of the original or should have been a free update.

>>717901490
It did run Like Shit with mods,so shut the fuck Up you mentaly and physicly retardet fat faggot

>>717932887
>the dev studio's wall textures suck, shit game
damn you guys really will complain about anything

>>717901330 (OP)
this is by far the most blatant advertisement i have seen on this website

>>717932887
Painted brick is gay

I look forward to having high quality screenshots of Shas'O Kais' Zingers

>>717931407
isnt the rumour that we are getting dawn of war 4 AND a total war 40k?

>>717933398
Dreadful, isn't it?

>>717933395
how about no

>>717933398
Dawn of War 4, maybe. The next Total War game is Star Wars

>>717926524
>>717926892
Yes, it is extremely lazy. They couldn't even be bothered to make new portraits, which are very simple pictures of the in game model.
Instead they ran the portrait through an AI upscaler and called it done.

The only real "new" art, seems to be the menus, but that also highlights their lack of skill. They are very flat and no longer look like metal.

Also all the drones going "Woooo, they fixed the intro cinematic!". Fucking drooling retards, the fact they even tried to "fix" it from the start, shows that they have no clue what they're doing when it comes to the art direction.
It will be fun to see what other "fixes" they've done....

>>717933793
the next Total War is Asterix

>>717933793
ewwwwwww

>>717931802
>the best games that have released recently are SM2, which has anemic content, dreadful parryslop gameplay, and a completely dead post release roadmap, and rogue trader, which is a typical owlcat game that is buggy and broken with the last half or third of the game practically empty until they fill it with content from dlcs (maybe)
This is true if you forget Mechanics, Boltgun, the Grey Knights game and Shootas, Blood & TEEF which is coincidentally most of the the games that have been released semi recently

>>717933970
>The year is 2027
>Yet another Rome Total War 2: DLC announced

>>717934454
Anyone played the Boltgun DLC? I found the first half of Boltgun to be tedious but then it really picked up towards the end

>>717934746
Come on, that would be dope.

>>717931305
>64bit, nicer lighting, fonts, some fixes
Okay, even if we assume all of this is done well and not fucked up for someone who already played the original, I don't know if its worth $20. Maybe half that much to invest in the work done refining it, but I can buy a whole new fucking game for $20 or less. There is zero emphasis on new content or significant overhauls/improvements, the way that the AoEII/III/AoMRemake were done. Them releasing a DE doesn't mean they're going to suddenly add another enhanced campaign, or that they worked alongside the Unification devs and made an official mod of Unification Campaign mode but expanded (without having to shim in factions as replacers) or that there will be a new DLC campaign in the works coming down the line. Without all of this
>$20 is a special discount for you long time players from a 2 decade old game, buy it now and see nicer shadows while you wait for the modders to make use of 64bit
seems kinda shitty.

>>717906063
Even worse: It was and still is my only exposure to the Warhammer franchise

>>717933953
You talk shit about their lack of art direction, but are upset they didn't redo the portraits? They would have done a poor job at it as you already know. It's a good thing they've done a bare minimum because they would have fucked it up otherwise.

>>717933953
>new portraits
This would have been a fantastic time for them to upgrade the Necrons to include not just oldcron soldiers as we have, but to give their leaders the new Necrontyr culture bits when you're playing a Lord/Overlord , sure have the silent oldcron type, but also have some dynasties in place, new models for the leaders to draw from . Hell, its even a place for a new campaign where you play as Trayzn The Infinite discovering new stuff for his prismatic galleries or some shit. Them doing very little new that's not lighting, bug fix, behind the scene seems a waste.

>>717934454
mechanicus was 2018
boltgun is very simplistic even for a boomshoot
chaos gate was limited and constrained even for an xcom like
shootas blood and teef is just the dev's own game with a skin
thanks for proving that you newfags have incredibly low standards of quality

>>717934746
its generally more of the same
less afraid to throw more than a couple beefy enemies at you at a time but the dreadnought and rocket launcher aren't that much of a mix up to the normal roster
if you wanted more it gives you more

>No RTX
>No DLSS
lmao

>>717933793
No its not, GW is already there and star wars is dead brand, it's just not going to happen.
Total war warhammer 40k in 2027

>>717901330 (OP)
I've played the original recently and there's a lot of things that are clearly dated. The communities solved for a lot of things with a variety of different mods but it's good to centralize it into an experience that runs better out of the box. Nonetheless I expect nothing since this game didn't have much for interesting custom maps, the balance is really shit and RTS is a dead genre. I'll revisit this instead of the old version when I feel like doing a Soulstorm campaign. Oh, and on that note, Soulstorm vanilla in particular crashes all the time on modern systems, it's a real bitch to get running.

>>717935352
Good news anon, the game is open to modding! So you can add the newcron models and portraits as you like.

>>717936056
No. 40k is never being made into a Total War game and CA leaks last year have already confirmed their next non-historical Total War game is Star Wars.

>>717935517
>thanks for proving that you newfags have incredibly low standards of quality
This

>>717931802
I've played RT 3 times and no major bugs so far, although the game itself becomes too easy from 4th act on.

>>717936003
No memerays and no fake frames? Seems good to me!

>>717936197
>next non-historical Total War game is Star Wars
They doing a galactic mode or are we stuck to one planet? Imperial era or clone wars? Both?

Bump limit reached.
Post Eldar sluts.

>>717935517
>mechanicus was 2018
Yeah, that's why I said semi recently, because if you want to reduce it to just 2020-2025, you only get like 4 games, not that it matters because out of those 4, only the Ork racing game was meh
>boltgun is very simplistic even for a boomshoot
And this is bad because? Actually, how can't you apply this to DoW?
>shootas blood and teef is just the dev's own game with a skin
What the fuck does this even mean? Was the author not supposed to make his own game and wait to be magically finished?

>>717936560
all are ORCED

>>717935517
>mechanicus was 2018
7 years isn't that long

>>717936872
>ORCED
>C
Silence, Tau.

>>717936953
brown tourist can’t even spell it right, back to your gacha threads

>>717936794
>implying dawn of war is simplistic
hello newfag, grasping at straws this early are we?
boltgun does very little to set itself apart from any other run of the mill boomshoot on the market
there's maybe two environments that are interesting like the big elevator fight but the enemies neither have interesting mechanics or AI more advanced than the original doom
>What the fuck does this even mean? Was the author not supposed to make his own game and wait to be magically finished?
see, you don't even know what you're fucking talking about when you're trying to bring up games
shootas blood and teef is literally just guns gore and cannoli with a 40k skin
if that's impressive to you you're a fucking mongoloid

>>717937261
>the enemies neither have interesting mechanics or AI more advanced than the original doom
That's what makes it a boomer shooter.

Can love bloom? ...even on the battlefield?

>>717937578
if you're a newfag that doesn't play video games, sure

>>717937737
Reddit

>>717937785
Reddit all the way down amirite?

>>717937741
I think your expectations are just a little high. Boltgun is fine for one, maybe two playthroughs and that's it. It doesn't need to have long term sustainability or carve its name in the industry for decades to come. It's just a fun little arcade-like game. All games used to be like that, and there's nothing wrong with revisiting that framework.

>>717937785
Newfag.

>>717937737
Cute!

>>717937261
>>implying dawn of war is simplistic
It's comically simple, the campaign it's genuinely impossible to lose and even on DC the moment you get 3 honor guard units you have won every non stronghold map, some races are just braindead to play like Necrons outside of the beginning of the game
>boltgun does very little to set itself apart from any other run of the mill boomshoot on the market
Again, and this is bad because? Nobody claimed that the game it's a masterpiece but the truth is that it's just fun to play, and that's all that matters in the end
>shootas blood and teef is literally just guns gore and cannoli with a 40k skin
And you expected them to make a whole new genre? This is specially retarded when the only unique 40k game is DoW and even then that's debatable
>Inb4 "You are just a le newfag, look at how much of a le jaded oldfag (started playing in 7th edition) I am!"

>>717937785
LCB predates Reddit.

>>717938093
And wholesome.

>>717937979
enemies are not utilized in ways that make for interesting combat interactions
they're spread around a combat arena or transitory path haphazardly almost purely to take up space and make sure there's something for you to shoot
even in the original doom the enemies were designed with very specific roles in mind for how they present a threat to the player individually and in concert with one another and this was enhanced with the many map tricks they used to manipulate their AI and pathing to keep the player on their toes
your approach to a different enemy in boltgun is generally limited to whether its fat enough that it takes more than one or two plasma shots to take down and you want to duck behind an obstacle to avoid return fire or if you want to try and gib a champion or pink horror to skip their on death mechanic

>>717902001
>No workshop
In my opinion, that's pretty good. I know some people like it, but I always saw Workshop as too stifling for its own good, especially when the games are on other platforms and can't access those mods without workarounds like direct downloads.

>>717938561
Yeah, so? It's meant to be simple, that's what they were going for, that's LITERALLY what makes it a boomer shooter. Not every fucking game has to push the envelope anon.

>>717937979
Why retards like you always defend mediocrity? And sometimes even outright SHIT games?

>>717938690
Not. Every. Game. Has. To. Push. The. Envelope.

>>717938185
>its comically simple
the game's mechanics are leaps and bounds more complex than most of the other RTS games that were coming out in the early 2000's
to think otherwise means you definitely weren't around playing video games at the time of its release
>Nobody claimed that the game it's a masterpiece
>and you expected them to make a whole new genre?
the entire point of this conversation is that the games that have come out recently are all bland and uninteresting so you've already lost the plot
you're only replying because you've taken offense to the fact that I rightfully called you out indirectly by stating that the new wave of 40k interest is made up of newfags with no knowledge or standards

>>717938650
>that's LITERALLY what makes it a boomer shooter
thank you for proving that you don't know what boomer shooter means outside of "it looks like its retro"

>>717938936
It has all the elements of a boomer shooter outside you spazzing out over enemy placement not making you sweaty enough.

>>717939078
the only elements of boomer shooter it has are that it has old school health and ammo pickups, movement that lets you move faster than talking pace, and 2d sprite work
it has none of the intended design decisions that made boomer shooters stand out