Thread 717903283

Demo's out
Are you enjoying it?

Sorry, I'll try to think of a twitter rage bait OP next time I want to discuss a game

>>717903283 (OP)
Didnt even realize its out. If its gonna be anything like the first one, then I'll have to wait for another year before I get it. First one was a mess until the devs got their shit together.

what kind of game is this

>>717903283 (OP)
Oh neat. Might check it out tomorrow when I have the time. Love the first game. Also really looking forward to the soundtrack.

>>717904085
4x

So civilization in a fantasy setting(actually sci-fi in disguise).

>>717904085
"civilisation-like" in a sci-fi fantasy setting, the first one might have been the best in the genre

>>717904079
I mean the game will launch in early access first anyway. So it might take years to even be a full game. And the previous one had like 5 years of faction DLCs

>>717904085
4X that managed to corner the "we want narrative in our games" audience.

>>717903283 (OP)
The only good game they've ever made is Dungeon of the Endless. Not Endless Dungeon, Dungeon of the Endless.

>>717904141
>>717904196
>>717904290
i see.
yeah not my thing.
But I did like unicorn overlord. I wish that game had more 4x components.

>>717903283 (OP)
Thus far the demo has been pretty ok, and convinced me to probably buy the early access once it is out.
I wonder what the remaining 2 factions are going to be as apparently the game is just going to have 6 factions at launch.

Why isn't it published by Sega?

>>717904531
Why would you want to be published by Sega? Do you enjoy lifetime-version of Denuvo or what?

>>717904531
Hooded Horse is trying to corner the 'tism market

>>717904531
Maybe Sega doesn't trust them after Humankind flopped.

>>717904531
Shortly after HK & Endless Dungeon flopped their value was low enough they bought themself back to go indipendant again. As an outsider it makes it seem like Sega executive may have been responsible for some fuck ups, like the awful Endless Space 2 DLC at the end.

>>717903283 (OP)
im too dumb and lazy to manage civs

>>717904214
all the DLC sucks

>>717903965
This is why I don't make threads. You need a certain level of ironic detachment or a snarky shit eating comment and I fucking hate doing that.

>>717903283 (OP)
Wake me up when Endless Space 3 is here.

>there is a demo out
QUICK TELL ME IF MY BOYS ARE GOOD

>>717912818
>literally called NecroFAGs
>boys

>>717913238
what is this retarded ass post?

>>717904085
Trash
>>717904141
Its not a 4x lol holy shit bro go play an actual 4x game like civ/moo/distant world

endless legend is just infinite space reskined with fantasy card draws rather than sci fi card draws. its shallow, basic and hardly even covers 2x let alone 4x haha

>>717913660
>Its not a 4x
yeah cuz its a 5x retard lol

>>717912818
Man they really nailed it with these guys. Every other faction is so generic by comparison. Even the bugs are just the cravers from ES with different paint

>>717913660
>explore, expand, exploit and exterminate
you do all of these things in Endless Legend

>>717908432
Didnt they fix that in the end? I heard they stopped Academy being shit and buffed Nakalim

>>717912364
not enough people play strategy to discuss it outside /vst/

>>717903283 (OP)
i'm enjoying it, but you can't seem to tell if units are hostile or neutral unless you mouse over their village and read the tooltips because there's no color coding.
and there's no custom graphics settings. the highest preset still seems to be some upscale + TAA blurry mess that really hurts to look at. the map is quite dense and you can't even tell where is cliffs and stuff blocking movement because its so blurry.

>>717913660
This doesn't look anything like EL

>>717913806
No idea on what happened after. I just remember tge spy shit being pretty mid, then getting academied upon and just gutting all of it.

There are no screenshots of what people like or dislike, in this thread.
Did they made combat worth participating in or its still auto-resolve fiesta?

I wish Age of Wonders 4 wasn't an incredibly generic, flavorless, directionless mess. It embodies the actual definition of slop, with none of the positive aspects of either 3 or planetfall.

>>717913323
He thought Broken Lords were called Necrophages apparently.

>>717913806
i never liked ES, apparently the space niggers were broken?

Is there a new system for equipment upgrades? The old system was kind of unhinged.
(No I don't care what exact armor each exact unit has equipped. I do however care that not every single military unit I build each costs an entire year of precious resource production.)

>>717913827
I don't know enough to follow along with whether this is true or not. So I'll believe you. But generally speaking it is difficult to create threads on /v/ that spark discussion sincerely. Otherwise I wouldn't feel this way.

>>717915518
/vst/ has some good genuine discussion
its pretty much the only place I can talk about games on 4chan anymore

>>717903283 (OP)
I didn't really get into the first one. Didn't they downplay the unit customization autism and the unnecessarily bloated comabt?

>>717903283 (OP)
I'm gonna give the full game a shot but the last 2 games Amplitude released were pretty bad. I could even believe the cope about Humankind being intentional sabotage of Firaxis and Sega, but Dungeon was bad too

>>717915320
armies now have upgrade paths that require strategic resources, no equipment. heroes can equip found items and you no longer have to choose between having them in the battlefield or running the empire, they can do both.

>open game
>white man jumpscare

>>717914062
I never finished this game

>campaign starts to get interesting
>game ends due to turn time limit
Evil devs

>>717904349
>I did like unicorn overlord
you could play Tactics Ogre if you haven't already

>>717919804
i have, actually. it's one of my favorites. i think uo is better for various reasons, but i think they would both benefit from more 4x elements. Maybe some sort of free for all mode like DOW1.

>>717903283 (OP)
Are dragon dudes in and not as boring to play?

>>717920713
>>717912818
As of now there's only three factions in the game: the coral spreading dust pacifists, the human military guys and the tyrannid

How do I rotate the camera?

>try out demo
>do tutorial
>600 different pop ups everytime you try and do something

This shit is worse than a fucking mobile game

>>717908432
Dont forget about the terrible endless legend dlc, which sega outsourced to some retard 3rd party company who put something out that was riddled with spelling and grammar errors, had awful, unbalanced game design, and an art style that didn't match the rest of the game

>>717922646
>do tutorial
>get mad its a tutorial

Why is the UI in one color only?

>>717904531
they didn't want to be fucked in the ass by SEGA anymore

I played it for like 30 minutes. Not a fan of the UI so far, feels like a downgrade. The game systems are interesting and new to me, although they might just be the same as Humankind which I never played.

>>717903283 (OP)
Thanks for the update, didn't realize it was out. My biggest regret with EL and ES2 is never playing a full online game. I really wanted to experience forming alliances, betrayals, revenge and everything that comes with nation building. Hopefully that can change with EL2.

>>717917140
Two of their worst rated games, Humankind and Endless Dungeon, were the only games they developed under SEGA. Curious

>>717923417
>>717923867
the ui never was a strong point in their games which is strange considering how nice all the other bits that contribute to the atmosphere are
the minimalist ui wasn't as noticeably jarring in the endless space games but it did always feel weird in endless legend

HOW DO YOU ROTATE THE CAMERA

>>717924098
I've been playing a lot of Endless Space 2 lately, and the UI is carried hard by the nice artwork and icons for units/buildings. Sorely missing that in this demo.

>>717914062
I think he meant endless space

>>717924098
>the ui never was a strong point in their games
retard take

is this made by white people or outsourced to jeets like that last endless space 2 dlc?

>>717903283 (OP)
Are there blacks or women in the game? If not, it doesn't belong on /v/

>>717924282
It's function over form, minimalism without any soul.

>>717904085
Age of Wonder 4 but shitty.

>>717924521
The bar must be really low then.

>>717924282
I too think gray gradient boxes are the height of UI design

>>717924604
yes troll i know that /v/ hates every game ever, fuck off now.

>>717925169
I actually played AoW4, they sacrificed all the soul for the sake of mindless customizability.

>start game
>humankindX tier flat Microsoft Excel ui that doesn't tell me what buttons do at first glance
>can't spot what shit lays on the ground
>can't say if villages are pacified
>limit of pops you can assign to city
>everything costs purple mana
>can't design units
>can't assign hero's to cities
>no spying/sabotage
>minor factions look like ass no spider pussy or ogre grugs or hydras
>soundtrack is like endless legend but made with ai
This is age of wonders 4 situation where the game will be playable in 5 years after billion of dlcs

>>717925169
I was interested in it until I saw that it was just build a bear factions with no meaningful differences between what model base was being used
I heard some of paradox's amazing dlc assuaged the issue but I still can't find it in myself to really care

>>717922429
E and Q
Dunno if you can actually rotate or just tilt slightly

>>717921515
>Three factions
Why do I only have two options?

I really loved EL1, and both ES games. But this demo disappointed me pretty hard. The UI feels just as, if not more, messy than the other games with their shit load of DLC (I don't mean this in a volume of things to click way, but I feel like its communication is worse), the map itself also feels more visually cluttered messy and all around over the top sometimes, and I just do not care for the factions being shown so far, I like the idea of having an even stronger emphasis on dialogue and a faction story in a 4x game, it's something I genuinely want, but the dialogue felt extremely stiff, Coral Stone Robot not-Asia genuinely feels like a collection of every possible subversion a faction could have at once, and the Sheredyn don't have anything going on asides from being Not-Mali Knights. Now that I am done complaining I will mention I still could tell I will enjoy the full game, but I ain't willing to put down money on an EA version

>>717928257
The third option is only available to straight people

>>717903283 (OP)
you should provide a brief description of the game in your OP for people who have never heard of it (me).
or in the first few posts, or a webm, or some game screenshots.

>>717930205
demo is free press play nigga

>>717930205
This isn't a news blog faggot nobody else is responsible for you not actually playing video games.

>>717921515
>>717928257
>turtle faction
>pacifist faction
>the zerg (you cant play these btw)
they truly picked some boring shit for the demo

>>717918412
>our game is designed by an old white dude this time
they must have done this on purpose after humankind (which was presumably designed exclusively by random diversity hires)

>>717931747
Man the first one was great how do they keep fucking this shit up?

>>717904214
>well established indie team
>still doing EA shit
bruh
After what a mess Endless Space 2 ended up being with the god awful DLCs I dont have a lot of hopes

>>717917140
I liked humankind :(

>>717932161
It very much a beta, lot of placeholders and such. I don't mind

games fun but the races are really ugly

I played a few hours today as the Kin (default human race) on normal difficulty. There's a lot of improvements to gameplay and roleplay/exploration that I really like. Monsoon season doesn't seem as oppressive as Winter in the previous game and is better at encouraging you to take risks since the water recedes and new land opens up afterwards. Camps are also a nice way to stabilize a rough start. Sadly the art style and art direction isn't as strong as the previous game. There's also a lot more event dialogue presented as conversations between you and an npc like in RPGs but the writing for it is bad and kind of ruins immersion.

>>717938263
The biggest issue with the artstyle is that there's mostly cutouts instead of full art, besides the kin looking very boring the artstyle is fine I think

>>717938449
I'm hoping the other factions look better because the Kin somehow don't inspire me at all. I don't know how they made tech-Romans look so basic when they nailed it with tech-Viking Vaulters last time. At least the golem still looks cool.

>>717921515
>>717912818
Broken lords are just not in the demo but they have spotlight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YTktAP1U8

>>717939026
I guess the units start simple and get more interesting as you give them better gear

>>717939026
>>717939904
if they make the models actually reflect the gear changes visually that would go a long way to provide some visual breakup and make it easier to understand what you're up against without just having to stare at unit cards like in the first game

Anyone found Horatio?

>>717903283 (OP)
Is Endless Legend (the first one or this one) closer to Civilization, Endless Space or Age of Wonders?
Because out of those three, I like Age of Wonders the most, and I didn't really like Endless Space 2 that much

>>717904196
>hex grid
Dropped

>>717940647
closer to civ but has a strong fantasy flavour, and most factions have a unique gameplay mechanic that fits their theme and changes how you play

>>717913660
I swear DeviantArt aesthetics basically did in Sword of the Stars back in the day.

>>717940751
Sounds great, I liked the unique faction mechanics in Endless Legend 2, but not the gameplay itself
I'll download the demo and see it for myself

>>717925420
Removal of features just infuriates me in 4X games. This is not a FPS or something. In the effort of getting the imaginary "mainstream audience" they'll lobotomize the entire genre. Devs just have to realize the average person isn't into 4X and never will be.

>>717940954
Space 2*

>>717939904
If it's anything like EL 1? No. That game was painfully sparse.

>>717940954
There's only two factions available in the demo and they seem the be the most basic ones

>>717903283 (OP)
>Relic and Amplitude might have their redemption arcs after being dropped from SEGAY
Not holding my breath but it's now or never for them to bounce back

>>717908432
Humankind was genuine 5D chess, they tanked their value enough to buy themselves out, by doubling down on retarded shit Sega had suggested in the first place so they could shift blame, AND tricked Civ into copying them like 6 did to EL to crash that franchise so EL2 could swoop in. Pure, unadulterated genius.

>>717903283 (OP)
I want endless space 3, fags.

>>717941043
The units already change how they look as you upgrade them

>>717942742
After Humankind 2

>>717903283 (OP)
Are the humankind trannies out?

>>717942742
yeah this is the main reason i hope this game does well so they survive to make that

>>717904085
I dunno but endless legend 1 was turn based when on the strategy map, I can understand old games like HoMM working like this but if EE2 has the same model I'd rather play CK3 with it's nonexistent combat

>>717931561
genuinely no idea why the necrophages/cravers are exclusively an AI faction in the demo when they're fully playable
t. insider

This just makes me want to play endless space 2 and endless legend 1

>>717903283 (OP)
its fucking garbage
looks like shit and filled with browns and ugly girlbosses
also only 4 factions total wtf? the first game had more than double that