Thread 717906556

>created by people who understood and loved the original
>sensibly improves visuals and performances
>rebalances the game for the better with toggle option
>adds new gameplay features like parry and diversifies the assets
>treats the original art and atmosphere like a sacred cow
This is what Demon's Souls Demake should have been

>>717906556 (OP)
I mostly agree except all the buffs to the Hexen classes were highly overtuned. The parry/counteract shouldn't be able to 1shot+gib a slaughtaur and Frost Shards went from good but requires actual player skill to use effectively to the strongest non-final weapon in the entire game while just blinding firing.

>>717906556 (OP)
>adds new gameplay features like parry
surprised i havent seen anyone on /v/ throw a fit over this

>>717906757
>blinding
Blindly. I do think the Frost Shards projectiles needed a buff but now they do more damage than the "Frost Touch" melee attack which defeats the entire purpose of the melee portion of the spell. Being able to fire through frozen corpses sounded great at first but having beaten the game with the mage, it's clear how overpowered it is, being able to create a near-endless wall of frozen corpses between you and the next enemy with nothing blocking your attacks. The increased firing rate compounds on all of this.

>>717906556 (OP)
Walpurgis did it better.

>>717906556 (OP)
Thanks for bringing it to my attention anon, I was having trouble getting the old versions to run with GZDoom on Linux through Steam.

>added Chaos Serpents are regular enemies in the new episode
Soul.

>>717906837
People are complaining about how strong it is, but the average doom enjoyer gets tired of Hexen's level design before the end of the first hub so you won't see a lot of people talking about it.

>>717906556 (OP)
it's great but i also agree about the new weapon changes, parry is cool but OP

Ultimately I think Heretic got the better end of the stick with this release.
>1 new weapon
>3* new enemies (Chaos Serpent isn't new but is a common enemy now)
>new episode made by Kaiser (god tier level designer)
>much better balance changes (Crossbow stronger but less ammo, Hellstaff projectiles have homing, Gauntlets of the Necromancer have higher hitstun chance, Staff has longer range, I think the Elven Wand is a bit stronger)

Hexen's new hub is also fantastic but I know it would've been better if Kaiser made it. But other than that Hexen only got a few new assets for key/puzzle items (Death Mask/Fetid Mask in Deathkings instead of the base game's Flame Mask repeat). And all the weapon updates are overpowered and make older, more interesting strategies obsolete (Cleric flechette has no purpose now, frost shards' melee is useless so no frost shards+flechette combos).

haha

Perspective warping makes me sick, i’ll stick with the source port
A shame becajse the new OST is a turbobanger

I surprised they didn't add in the N64 soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuWDVeqCgwI

>>717908338
Shame, since they have the book as a mechanic, they could have done something fun with it in the bonus episode. Class-passable linedefs are a very low hanging fruit

Hopefully they do Heretic 2 / Hexen 2 next year.

>>717906556 (OP)
It's fantastic (and I love Hexen's waypoint system) but I just wish the up down look was more 3D.

>>717906556 (OP)
>parry

>>717906556 (OP)
If I played both through sourceports are the remasters gonna blow me away or not?

>>717912986
Do not open this.

>>717906556 (OP)
That right art look like AI

Played Hands of Necromancy 2 recently.
Great OST but the game itself is quite meh as far as those "Strife-like" paid doom wads go.
https://youtu.be/QZVADXeVcsE

>>717914929
Are you fucking stupid? That's Gerald Brom's work from the early 90s.

>>717915136
I can see why he said it. The bloke looks like something Stable Diffusion spits out.

I'm surprised there are no modern boomer shooters like this

>>717915239
No, it looks like classic Conan fantasy.

>>717915452
Why not both?

>>717915417
Heretic got Amid Evil but nobody has tried to make a modern Hexen style game, despite retarded advertisement.

>>717915417
Ziggurat?

>>717915561
Ziggurat is a roguelike horde shooter

Has anyone played graven?

>>717915714
Yeah.

>>717915136
>>717915452
Damn. These are generic.

>>717915781
so it's kinda kino?

What's the way to go about making sure I never ran out of ammo and get myself in a checkmate situation in these types of games? Do I just designate specific guns to specific enemy types, so I don't do something like waste ShotWand ammo on something that can easily be taken out with the pistol wand? Or are the levels designed where you really can't "run out" of ammo based on the enemy counts?

>>717916067
Kino? No, not at all. It's not horrible like a lot of people claim but it's not amazing either. The first hub is genuinely good, a solid 8/10. Hub 2 is is half-finished at best but the first half is pretty good. The 3rd hub is clearly rushed for release and just sucks.

>>717915714
Average at best game, sadly. The combat is awful(easily the worst sword I've swung in first person), the exploration not interesting, it was buggy and didn't run well in certain areas, just overall a massive disappointment

>>717906556 (OP)
>sensibly improves visuals
I dunno, I get weird artifacting on stuff like the wand

>>717916217
I played on the ultra-violence equivalent and never really had an issue with ammo. Not spamming AOE at single targets was about the only time I bothered swapping. Eventually you can stockpile a decent number of the refresh mana items and it's never a real problem again.

>>717916217
Using the right weapons against the right enemies, ie better to use crossbow against undead warriors and not gargoyles, gauntlets on Golems, etc to save ammo. Heretic is incredibly well balanced and one of, if not the best, pistol start experiences.

Running out of mana in Hexen is almost impossible.

>>717906556 (OP)
best hexen class?

>>717917972
Cleric.

Wizordum really didn't scratch the same itch as well as I hoped it would.

>>717915714
Legitimately one of the most disappointing games of the last 5 years for me
whoever worked on the graphics and art design needs to quit Slipgate Ironworks, not because they are bad, but because they are the only good thing about that company and deserve to work with a team that doesn't COMPLETELY FUCK UP THE GAMEPLAY

I was going to buy the Ion Maiden sequel, Phantom Fury, based on the trailer until I saw they were the devs, and sure enough the game came out and people weren't happy with the awful gameplay

>>717906556 (OP)
What game?

>>717912463
>Hexen's waypoint system

What? I might actually play it past the first hub now. I only like these games for the combat.

>>717915239
>looks like something Stable Diffusion spits out.
And why do you think that is? Use your brain dammit!

>>717915417
There's REKKR

>>717921840
There's an option that shows points of interest on the automap.

>>717921981
circular so I won't argue any more

>>717906556 (OP)
Are Heretic and Hexen any good? I got them from the /vr/ doom thread's PWAD pack but haven't touched them. Do they play well with GZDoom or Zandronum?

>>717906556 (OP)
>rebalances the game for the better with toggle option
how do you toggle it?

>>717923015
bump

>>717923015
When the game start you have the options

>>717923015
When your on the difficulty selection menu, press Tab and it'll open up a new menu where you can toggle the changes.

>>717924708
>>717924758
I've found it. Thanks.

Why the fuck did they decide to add jumping puzzles to a Doom clone?

>>717906837
Because no one is playing this unc slop

>>717915239
that's because there was a massive surge of AI images that were made to mimic 70-80s dark fantasy.

>>717927295
Because the ability to jump and look up and down was new.

Yeah nah, I played the quake 1 remaster and it soured any chance of me playing this shit
>Change movement
>input lag
>mouse feels like swimming in mud
These people don't love anything but nickle and diming pick me zoomers who want to be "in"

>>717906556 (OP)
plays too safe with wayfarer's dogwater changes

>>717931190
Turn it off, then.