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Anonymous No.717911331 >>717911441 >>717911505 >>717911689 >>717911720 >>717911786 >>717912823 >>717913349 >>717913367 >>717914903 >>717915756 >>717916925 >>717916994 >>717917261 >>717917287 >>717917580 >>717918751 >>717919187 >>717921469
Did it surpass Skyward Sword as the worst Zelda game ever made?
Anonymous No.717911384
Yes
Dropped at zora dungeon
Anonymous No.717911441 >>717911874 >>717912071 >>717917090
>>717911331 (OP)
It's not BotW/TotK so no.
But you asked if it's the worst ZELDA game so yeah you're correct. But at least it IS a Zelda game.
Anonymous No.717911505 >>717912980
>>717911331 (OP)
This is a spinoff and it's not even the worst Zelda spinoff, that would be that Four Swords game on 3DS
Anonymous No.717911689
>>717911331 (OP)
i never played skyward sword, was that the waggle one? i never had a wii, and honestly oot made me not only stop caring about but also actively hate zelda, which is a shame because that caused me to miss out on majora's mask and wind waker
aside from those two though, everything else after oot looks like it was pretty shit just like oot was
Anonymous No.717911720 >>717912071 >>717917402
>>717911331 (OP)
just remove the overpowered water block and it would be fine, still better than BotW/TotK either way
Anonymous No.717911786 >>717912071
>>717911331 (OP)
No. It still would need to surpass both BotW and its DLC to accomplish that.
Anonymous No.717911846
>good game actually... le bad!!!
get new material you stupid nigger
Anonymous No.717911874 >>717912091 >>717912301 >>717912629
>>717911441
Worst bait ever

>"Akshually the game that's regarded the best in the series is the worst"

I won't even hear your reasoning cause Ik your just a grifter, and I'm not even a huge botw fan lol
Anonymous No.717911964 >>717912359 >>717912385 >>717912804
This thread was made by Eric. QRD on him:
>Textbook definition snoy/PCfag
>Massive OoT and MM fanboy. Hates BoTW and ToTK for "killing Zelda"
>Aggressively pro-piracy and pro-emulation
>Loses his shit when any sales figures are brought up
>Cubie that hates the Switch 1 and 2
>Believes Melee is the best Smash and seethes at Ultimate
>Shilled the Steam Deck before it crashed and burned
>His ultimate plot is to gaslight other retards into turning on Nintendo and the Switch
Anonymous No.717912071 >>717912193 >>717916904
>>717911441
>>717911786
>>717911720
>OoTsnoys find ways to seethe at BoTW/ToTK even in threads not about them
Rent free, snoy.
Anonymous No.717912091 >>717918661
>>717911874
Botw is a womanly game. It appeals to feminine interests like collecting and wandering and doing "le quirky" stuff with items. It is an inherently feminine piece of media and is the objectively the worst entry in the franchise for sacrificing the traditional masculine norms of Zelda.
Anonymous No.717912193 >>717912272 >>717917375
>>717912071
>OoT literally out of nowhere
That game really did break you kids didn't it
Need pic related but with an OoT edit
Anonymous No.717912272 >>717912575 >>717913521 >>717913579 >>717914436 >>717915893
>>717912193
Who else relentlessly seethes at BoTW besides OoTsnoys?
Anonymous No.717912301 >>717922682
>>717911874
It has the same dichotomy as most new games
>The playability seems higher than any previous game
>But the experience as a whole is slop with worse music/story/level design than before
That's what makes it so difficult to have real conversations with other gamers about why "Latest game in X franchise is quite literally the worst one yet".

A lot of gamers don't understand the "pieces" of the games they're consuming. You're just consuming, and judge solely based on the hand-feel of the game after the first hour and that initial impression that gives you. You don't realize that sometimes you've played an entire game that seemed good, and you're left with this "...that wasn't really worth it" feeling that other, sometimes worse-playing, but overall BETTER games don't leave you with.

A lot of gamers are simpleminded enough so they just judge if they're having fun in the present second or not, and then they "hear" others say "Franchise is amazing, the games are amazing!!!" and group together to repeat it and fit in.

That's how BotW got all those 10/10s as well. It turns out Gen X and Millenial journalists never understood why OoT was so beloved, but they "heard" it, so they just think anything with "Zelda" on it is automatically at least a 9/10.
Anonymous No.717912359
>>717911964
There's at least 20 different "erics" on /v/ though.
Anonymous No.717912385 >>717913006
>>717911964
take your meds werido
Anonymous No.717912506 >>717913442
Worst is spirit tracks though. Only fucking shit people remember is the whole closing the lid thing.
Anonymous No.717912575 >>717912705 >>717912816
>>717912272
>Get mocked constantly for being a faggot crossdressing game
>"h-heh seething..." he says while in his Gerudo garb
Anonymous No.717912629 >>717912763
>>717911874
Yes, actually. BotW FUCKING sucks and somehow TotK sucked shit even worse. Their core design is antithetical to everything Zelda stood for as games and appeals to braindead casuals who just want a glorified walking sim while being too stupid to realize that's what it is.
Anonymous No.717912643 >>717912782
Unless they make a remake of skyward sword that guts the terrible control gimmick I'm never going to finish it. But remaster has great controls... Go play Metal Gear Rising and come back and tell me they couldn't have done any better with the control scheme in the remaster.
Anonymous No.717912705
>>717912575
Thank you for being a physical manifestation of proof that OOTfaggots are snoys. Let the Switch 1 and 2 make you seethe eternally.
Anonymous No.717912763
>>717912629
>OOTsnoy keeps samefagging
Anonymous No.717912782 >>717913164
>>717912643
>that guts the terrible control gimmick
how can you possibly have a hard time with skyward swords controls
Anonymous No.717912804 >>717913006
>>717911964
Learn how anonymous imageboards work or gtfo.
Anonymous No.717912816
>>717912575
>hes mindbroken by 7 letters
Anonymous No.717912823
>>717911331 (OP)
I really couldn't finish this game. I found it boring for some reason
Anonymous No.717912837 >>717912889
Nah, it's just ok.

Spirit Tracks, Phantom Hourglass, and if we're honest Minish Cap, Zelda 1, and whichever Oracle game doesn't suit your personal play style are all below it.

I wouldn't call any Zelda besides Spirit Tracks flat out "bad" though.
Anonymous No.717912889 >>717913252
>>717912837
Your tastes are inexplicable. Why do you hate the Capcom games so much?
Anonymous No.717912980
>>717911505
It's more an offshoot than a spinoff.

Story-wise it is pretty mainline, they just experimented with a new main character/combat. I doubt they'll make another, but it probably was with the intention to make more if if was well received.
Anonymous No.717913006 >>717913134
>>717912385
>>717912804
Shut the fuck up, Eric.
Anonymous No.717913134 >>717913295
>>717913006
That's not my name so I will not. BotW is shit, its fanbase is shit, and modern Nintendo is shit.
Anonymous No.717913164 >>717913689
>>717912782
Joycon drift, the camera riding your ass.
wii motion plus randomly desyncing for no reason.
It is a bad experience all around even when it is working as intended.
Anonymous No.717913252
>>717912889
I don't. I said I like all Zeldas except Spirit Tracks.

Minish Cap is a good game with my favorite artstyle of any 2D Zelda, just kind of small and the kinstones were a fun idea but lead to some flat out silly minigames and backtracking.

I don't like Oracle of Seasons as much as ages because I prefer puzzles over combat. They were designed like that and most people would probably prefer one considerably over the other. I don't hate either, and basically consider them one game.

EoW is a pretty good game too, and I prefer it over those.
Anonymous No.717913295
>>717913134
>BotW is shit, its fanbase is shit, and modern Nintendo is shit
Anonymous No.717913349
>>717911331 (OP)
It had some cool ideas but there is nothing fun about watching an AI monster poorly flounder and not do what you need it to. Also water blocks and water pillars completely broke all travel and exploration
Anonymous No.717913367 >>717913416 >>717913667
>>717911331 (OP)
Eric thread, don't reply
Hide this thread and say goodbye.
Don't for it, it's a ploy
From seething Eric, the evil snoy.
Anonymous No.717913409 >>717914386
>"the worst zelda game ever made"
>still a 7/10 at worst
Sounds like a great franchise to me.
Anonymous No.717913416
>>717913367
cope
Anonymous No.717913442
>>717912506
Closing the lid was in Phantom Hourglass
Anonymous No.717913452
I enjoyed the final dungeon where you had to do shit as Zelda on one side to help Link progress on the other side. I always felt like this is how ToTK should have been where Zelda does shit in the past to help Link in the future, like dark cloud 2
Anonymous No.717913496
The old bad Zeldas are the pre-BoTW games.
Anonymous No.717913519 >>717913593
OoTsnoy here
It was fucking hilarious watching this series crash and burn but in all seriousness we can't let this game get the nuclear codes
Anonymous No.717913521
>>717912272
me but that’s because I’m a TP faggot I suppose
Anonymous No.717913579 >>717914830
>>717912272
Literally any other Zelda fan
Anonymous No.717913593 >>717913816
>>717913519
Funny how this post is satire but OOTsnoys actually think like this. They hate Zelda.
Anonymous No.717913667 >>717914830
>>717913367
>only one person hates BotW/TotK
seethe more faggot
Anonymous No.717913685 >>717914952
I don't seethe at BotW but FUCK TEARS and FUCK FUJIBAYASHI
Anonymous No.717913689 >>717914830
>>717913164
I played SS on both Wii and Switch and didn’t have any issues. I hate the game because of the lame story and ugly art but the controls weren’t an issue besides that part where you have to swim and collect the music note fish. I guarantee instead of slow precise swings you waggled like a jittery retard at every encounter
Anonymous No.717913816
>>717913593
Can confirm
OoTSnoy here
Anonymous No.717914202
>get to play as Zelda canonically wearing a tight ponytail with a sheer dress and exposed belly
>she’s a dumb little chibi funko abomination
Cruel
Anonymous No.717914386 >>717914574 >>717914952
>>717913409
Numbered scores are worthless to me. I have never been more disappointed by a video game than I have with BotW.
Anonymous No.717914436 >>717914574 >>717914830 >>717914952
>>717912272
>Who else relentlessly seethes at the game that ruined Zelda besides Zelda fans?
Anonymous No.717914574 >>717914605 >>717914780 >>717915187 >>717921170
>>717914386
>>717914436
BoTW broke sales records for the series and continues to be successful to this day. The Switch in general has been Nintendo's own golden age

Stay mad forever, snoy.
Anonymous No.717914605 >>717914762 >>717914830 >>717914952
>>717914574
BotW isn't even a Switch game brainlet
Anonymous No.717914701
The story in the back half is surprisingly decent. I felt for that Yeti nigga who missed his bro.
Anonymous No.717914762 >>717915162
>>717914605
Would you rather me post ToTK sales to prove the point instead?
Anonymous No.717914780 >>717914869 >>717914890
>>717914574
You just have shit taste. You're the disney adult of vidya.
Anonymous No.717914830
>>717914605
>>717914436
>>717913689
>>717913579
>>717913667
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717914869
>>717914780
Okay, Eric.
Anonymous No.717914890
>>717914780
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717914903
>>717911331 (OP)
It's one of the very few good ones of the last 20 years.
Anonymous No.717914952
>>717914605
>>717914386
>>717914436
>>717913685

You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717915162 >>717915220
>>717914762
>would you rather I post BotW DLC to (fail) and prove a point
yes
Anonymous No.717915187 >>717915220 >>717915301
>>717914574
>The Switch in general has been Nintendo's own golden age
Only a turncoat sony pony who fled to nintendo with the switch would think this. Nintendo's golden age ended nearly 25 years ago. Modern nintendo has gone to hell and their rabid bootlickers are a blight.
Anonymous No.717915220
>>717915187
>>717915162
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717915301 >>717915564
>>717915187
Only a former Nintendo fan-turned-snoy/PCfag would think this.

Let me guess, you're a Gamecubesnoy that also believes Nintendo "died after Iwata".
Anonymous No.717915496 >>717915538 >>717915613 >>717915629
TOTK’s sales plateaued hard within a month after launch.
Anonymous No.717915538
>>717915496
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717915564 >>717915629
>>717915301
Nintendo definitively died after Iwata yes. Let me guess, you suck an account and EA executive's dicks while pretending it's still Nintendo and not some soulless abomination bending you over as hard as they know they can.
Anonymous No.717915613
>>717915496
>i-it only made 25 million
Now compare the sales to your precious OoT.
Anonymous No.717915629
>>717915564
>>717915496
You lost and got raped;, Eric..
your generic snoytranny cope flopped
Anonymous No.717915696 >>717916074 >>717916302
OOTfaggots are a literal cult. Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is a bizarre thing.
Anonymous No.717915756 >>717915810
>>717911331 (OP)
>braindead easy combat
>braindead easy puzzles
>the only good dungeon i found (electricity ball boss) was optional
>the saturated colors, especially the purple rifts, make the game look like fucking fortnite
>dialogue that feels ai generated
this is the epitome of nutendo slop and probably one of the worst games ive ever played. its like they gave up after coming up with the spawning objects/enemies gimmick
the fact that there are anons amongst us that like it makes me feel even worse about the whole thing
Anonymous No.717915810 >>717916204
>>717915756

Ericpedosnoytranny, both your generic Nintendo seethe thread and your Mario kart seethe thread died ;)
Anonymous No.717915893 >>717915940
>>717912272
If you haven't played any other Zelda title, BotW is a good game.
If you have played certain previous Zelda titles, BotW becomes a less impressive game.
Anonymous No.717915940 >>717916636
>>717915893
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717916074 >>717916145 >>717916337
>>717915696
ACK these OoTsnoys... ACK! How dare they insult my glorious Nintendo, ACK!
Anonymous No.717916119 >>717916871 >>717917837 >>717918020
Are we just not counting the CD-i games anymore?
Anonymous No.717916145
>>717916074
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717916204 >>717916262 >>717916337
>>717915810
>boogeyman
>schizo nonsense
why would ericpedosnoytranny play the game like i did?
Anonymous No.717916262 >>717916363
>>717916204
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
You haven't played the game, eric
Anonymous No.717916302 >>717916337 >>717917404
>>717915696
The mental gymnastics of you absolute retards is almost impressive.
Anonymous No.717916337
>>717916074
>>717916204
>>717916302
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717916363 >>717916479
>>717916262
i did though
Anonymous No.717916479 >>717917387
>>717916363
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
No you didn't, I bet if I ask you for proof you will trannylator cope
Anonymous No.717916636 >>717916760
>>717915940
I'm not eric, and I haven't been raped.
Breath of the Wild is an underwhelming game in the Zelda franchise.
Anonymous No.717916760
>>717916636
You lost and got raped;, Eric.
Anonymous No.717916871
>>717916119
Never did. Something the CD-i games have in common with BotW and TotK is that they aren't Zelda games.
Anonymous No.717916904
>>717912071
sorry but im still not playing bored of the wild or slop of the kingdom
Anonymous No.717916925
>>717911331 (OP)
no that would be twilight princess
Anonymous No.717916994 >>717917139 >>717918531 >>717920221
>>717911331 (OP)
Skyward Sword isn't even close to being the worst zelda game retarded gamecube subhuman
Anonymous No.717917090 >>717917205 >>717917387 >>717917583 >>717918867
>>717911441
I'm just so tired of the un-designed "solve everything, with anything" puzzle approach. It's more than worn out it's welcome by being the central design of three games in the series in a row.
There's nothing wrong with singular, intentionally-crafted solutions. I recognize that how they were doing things before was getting stale, but this new way is stale too.
Anonymous No.717917139
>>717916994
Based
Anonymous No.717917205
>>717917090
didn't ask you samefaggot cuck
Anonymous No.717917261
>>717911331 (OP)
I loved Echoes of Wisdom. I don't know where the hate comes from. I love how much freedom the game gives you to explore. I love how there are multiple solutions to every puzzle. I love the concept itself.

TotK > BotW > ALttP > OoS > OoA > EoW > LoZ > LA > MC > LoZ II > WW > MM > OoT > TP > PH > SS > ST
Anonymous No.717917287
>>717911331 (OP)
Twilight Princess is the worst Zelda game by a long shot. Just fucking terrible all around.
Anonymous No.717917375 >>717917660
>>717912193
Anon, The Game Awards are a mark of demerit after one of the top 10 worst games of all time (TLOU2) won in 2020. Imagine being proud of an award that went to something barely more enjoyable than ET on Atari. That's like pining for a Nobel Peace Prize after Obama got it for being black. The award is meaningless now.
Anonymous No.717917387 >>717917660
>>717916479
i rushed the zora quest, i explored all of gerudo desert before i gave up on it, and i did the goron volcano stuff
i stopped playing at the halfway point where you liberate hyrule castle because i couldnt take it anymore
>>717917090
echoes of wisdom felt really lazy. they just reused all the content from the gameboy remake and added the object/enemy spawn gimmick. why cant nintendo use their vast wealth to hire people with an ounce of passion for games?
Anonymous No.717917402 >>717917648 >>717917660
>>717911720
The problem with this game is that if you can summon a hundred different things, most of them will be useless and there will always wind up being one dominant strategy. It's like with scribblenauts. Almost every challenge can be beat with like one of three items.
Anonymous No.717917404 >>717917660
>>717916302
The Wii U era really buck broke Nintendo fans, especially on /v/ with the gold face spam. It spawned some real broken human beings that spam this board constantly now. They're just the new gold face spammers.
Anonymous No.717917580 >>717917660 >>717917684
>>717911331 (OP)
>BOTW and TOTK so awful OP forgot about them
Anonymous No.717917583 >>717922394 >>717922618
>>717917090
No, that approach is great. What was tiring was the old OoT-style "puzzle" solving where every puzzle had a very obvious singular solution that the game telegraphs to you. The only Zelda games with good puzzles before BotW were the Oracle games, and those were made by Capcom.

For as good as the original Zelda was, the puzzles usually amounted to little more than "bomb a wall you would have no idea would lead to anything unless you used the player's guide".
Anonymous No.717917648
>>717917402
>s that if you can summon a hundred different things
most of them are really just variations of the same thing
Anonymous No.717917660 >>717917738
>>717917404
>>717917375
>>717917387
>>717917402
>>717917580

snoy sametrannying
Anonymous No.717917684
>>717917580
Both of them and EoW are in the top 5 best Zelda games Nintendo has ever put out.
Anonymous No.717917738 >>717917869
>>717917660
Anonymous No.717917837
>>717916119
We don't have to. Nintendo gave Phillips full independence to make those games. Capcom on the other hand was watched like a hawk and Nintendo interfered on every turn, making it a joint production. Same with the spinoffs like Hyrule Warriors, Candence of Hyrule etc.

CDI games are their own thing.
Anonymous No.717917869
>>717917738
See >>717917794
Anonymous No.717917886
I didn't really care for Link Between Worlds either. Renting items was dumb, this industry wide obsession with freedom at the expensive of flow and level design is dumb.
Anonymous No.717918020 >>717918539
>>717916119
Anyone with a brain doesn't even acknowledge those games period. It's like having a discussion about a serious topic and someone makes a bad joke based around it. I hate the "So bad it's good" mindset that people have nowadays.

They were bad games, and they were forgotten for a reason. The YTP's made fun of them because they were bad games, don't let the humor of those videos delude you into thinking they're relevant beyond said videos.
Anonymous No.717918531
>>717916994
kek based
Anonymous No.717918539
>>717918020
They did make Arzette, which showed at least in theory they could have been decent games if not for the janky controls.
Anonymous No.717918661
>>717912091
>collecting, wandering and experimenting are feminine traits
The fuck am I reading
Anonymous No.717918751
>>717911331 (OP)
but TP is worse than SS
Anonymous No.717918867
>>717917090
I've got to agree with you. Every Nintendo game is doing this now and it's becoming fatiguing. I mean to some extent it's not new. You could skip a great many of the actual platforming requirements of Super Mario 64 to get stars, for example. But the level design generally felt more substantial and intentional. Something like Bananza in comparison seems like it puts the priority on the "do it your way" approach and the levels feel smaller and more constrained compared to the ability range of the player. Like it's easier to accidentally get to objectives the "wrong" way than it is to follow the designed route. The Zelda games are the exact same now, EoW especially. It doesn't feel good to keep accidentally stumbling into content that should be worked towards all the time in a progressive fashion. It's just shit.
Anonymous No.717919187
>>717911331 (OP)
There is no such thing as a bad Zelda game
Anonymous No.717920221
>>717916994
>Adventure of Link over anything
>Phantom Hourglass over Spirit Tracks
I don't think so
Anonymous No.717921170
>>717914574
>MUIH SALES
there's 2 billion indians therefore india is a great country
Anonymous No.717921469
>>717911331 (OP)
> Zelda game
> Stars Zelda
Anonymous No.717922394
>>717917583
What you don't understand is that by making puzzles "open" they're basically not even puzzles or challenges anymore. It devolves them into like
>Game dev spent a month making super unique puzzle area
>The gamer ignores the puzzle by jumping over it.
Most puzzles in BotW can just be ignored for what's in front of you, and you can be like
>I'll just put my electric sword here. Oh it worked.
And after a while that becomes more disappointing than fun, because the puzzles have already been made shorter because the devs thought of maybe 5 possible ways you have to solve it if you didn't carry the electric sword, but at some point late in the game you're literally just playing on God Mode in a lot of scenarios and the game starts to feel like you're just playing it in Debug Mode.
Anonymous No.717922618
>>717917583
>For as good as the original Zelda was, the puzzles usually amounted to little more than "bomb a wall you would have no idea would lead to anything unless you used the player's guide".
Zelda had its own "language". A lot of first-time Zelda players will miss most of it and indeed had to find a guide eventually for that one thing where they have no idea what the game is hinting at.
But most of the time it's intuitive, and once you recognize its "language", you're surprised it ever stumped you before.
Like, I just replayed Wind Waker and it's been over a decade... and not only did I find way more than I ever did in the past (like all the sea charts), I found that the game actually is telling you everything.

Zelda is not the kind of series where things get hidden and people had to "randomly" find it and tell others. It's literally a game that telegraphs and hints at all the answers if you just explore the game enough. The problem is that fans don't pay any fucking attention, especially zoomers who grew up on Mobile games and design patterns meant to handhold the player.
As a result, the "open but unspoken" nature of puzzles in BotW just feel patronizing and bland to me, as someone who's played tons of games since the 90s. Nothing ever truly surprised me and feels very surface-level.
Anonymous No.717922682 >>717923059
>>717912301
I find that this often happens with open world games. One deludes themselves into thinking that being able to go anywhere on an empty map makes for a better adventure when in the end you wasted more of your time for the same volume of content and aren't really satisfied. It's the same way MGSV is shit, I think people past a certain time playing go on autopilot and don't really engage with the game, which is why games that have neat building blocks but fail as an experience get so much praise, those kinds of players only remember glimpses and pieces of what they played and can't remember the whole of their playtime where they were meandering about looking for what to do.
Anonymous No.717923059
>>717922682
For me all of that is a given. I just sometimes forget that NPCs have yet to realize it. For me it took Skyrim and a handful of games between 2009 and 2011 before I started going "Oh god, not more Open World shit" because it's a conveyor belt approach to game design.
Part of it literally is just a shift in game-dev organization. At the time I did computer science in 2015 they talked a lot about how recently the "agile" approach had become even more normalized and developed. If you check out GDC talks of games around this time a lot of them will talk about "agile" as well.

It literally is a model where you're kind of planning less in advance, and you're just "filling out" things iteratively, which leads to the Ubisoft model where you just have a basic skeletal structure in your sandbox, and the production consists of having large spreadsheets you give to designers and go "Okay, Region X needs Y amount of quests, spaced no more than whatever amount of distance from each other" and it's literally just 30 different designers each making their own homework, and there's no real oversight and most of it just gets to ship in the game how they made it.

In the past you had levels, which were often led by just a few designers but usually there was more of a concerted effort to make sure the level was coherent from beginning to end, and bridges well with the rest of the game as a whole.

The Ubislop content model, which Zelda also uses now, is literally just the "Make a huge map first, then fill it out with slop and give participation trophies to every designer."

What you get is just a less coherent experience, and a lot of busywork.