Thread 717921215

I KEEP GETTING LOST THIS IS NOT GOOD GAME DESIGN THIS IS JUST A CHEAP WAY TO PAD THE LENGTH

first falcom game?

How? The game points to exactly where you need to go. If you're not suppose to be in an area, they wall it off with high level enemies or a literal wall that gets removed after some village progress.

>>717921215 (OP)
Imagine getting lost in a modern Ys game. There hasn't been a complex level in these games since Ys 2

>>717921215 (OP)
lost how?

>>717921215 (OP)
It's pretty linear if you actually pay attention to your surroundings.

>>717921768
I unironically have a hard time navigating a Skyrim dungeon. Some people are built different, and by that I mean retarded

I hope Proud Nordics isn't a "BUY THE GAME TWICE" situation.

>>717921215 (OP)

do you have brain problems

>>717921215 (OP)
unironically filtered lmao

>>717921215 (OP)
Are you still stuck on the cruise ship?

>>717921215 (OP)
Let me guess, you also keep losing your swords?

>>717921215 (OP)
How?
You even have quest markers, minimaps and a pretty decent map?

>>717921873
this image is funny because only the pc version of the game has multiplayer

I heard this was the best Ys game, what the fuck is this

>>717921990
At least you are honest, anon. Proud of ya.

>>717923149
Shit you can all ignore. Not like Ys8 is hard by any stretch of the YS series' typical difficulty.

>>717923149
All useless garbage, overpowered consumables that you don't want to use or lazy outfit recolors.
It might as well not exist.

>>717923383
>>717923454
no shit shirlock but what a fucking eyesore jfc

Cool an Ya thread, I actually just started Memories of Celceta last night. Only ever played Origins and Oath prior. Feels weird to not have a jump.

Adol is famously quoted as having replied to the question, "Why did you want to climb Mount Gendarme?" with the retort "Because it's there", which has been called "the most famous three words in mountaineering". Questions have arisen over the authenticity of the quote, and whether Adol actually said it.

>drop the handheld versions finally
>next two games looks no fucking better than the last handheld entry

>>717921215 (OP)
>getting lost
How?

>>717921215 (OP)

how the fuck you got lost? explain, you got a map and get told the objectives. Sometimes they force you to switch to Dana to advance

>>717921215 (OP)
hate how the brown loli always felt considerably weaker than everyone else

>>717923454
Eve when they bring it back jumping never feels as good because it is never used as a means to dodge attacks since.

>>717924385
X is animated batter at least.
Honestly Ys looking great is the least of my concerns.

>>717925379
I dont really have a problem with X's visuals but it could have used another year in the oven still I think. Proud Nordics is proof there was probably tons of cut content but had to be rushed out the door for investors

>>717925659
Yeah I liked what was there it just needed more variety and polish

>>717924798
She was one of the top 3 strongest characters and easily the strongest blunt character, you must have failed to unlock her good skills.

>>717921768
The caves in 6 completely mog the mine/ruins and burnedbless in 2, it's not even a question

>>717921215 (OP)
this is why i like 9 better

8 always felt super padded to me

10sux

>>717925950
Never had any problems navigating Ys 6. Now Solomon Shrine in 2, however... That's a whole other can of worms.

>>717926087
How did you feel about 7? Because you are collecting unpopular opinions.

>>717926087
>i like 9 better
>spoiler
can I really trust your opinion on Ys X?

>>717921215 (OP)
>I KEEP GETTING LOST

hahahahaahaha. kiddie needs a fucking gps and pointer to tell him where to go at all times.

Just open the map and git gud.

>>717926325
Not him, but I did enjoy 9 just a tad bit more than 8. Aside from the music, it was absolute dogshit.

Holy shit what a retard. how do you get lost in Ys VIII? my normalfag retard friend who is garbage at games actually played this game on my recommendation and even he had no trouble beating it

>>717926236
nta but most underrated game in the series desu

>>717926236
Nta but the final battle was way better than Ys 8 final boss despite being basically the same

>>717926735
People talking shit about it and me not being excited to play it made for a huge contrast once things started kicking up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjEGx4XM0VI
It's way up there on my favorites somehow.

>>717925313
8 has a couple boss attack patterns that were definitely designed around jumping over them.
But yes, they dropped them after that.

>>717927036
It's one of the things I hope they start noticing if they make Ys 11. I didn't really like how in Napishtim style games your ONLY way to dodge was jumping around like a retard but I certainly miss all of the attacks that you had to clearly jump over. Plus they don't design the dungeons as much with jumping challenge + enemies anymore.

>>717927006
They're faggots, the colosseum fight is one of the most hyped moments in the entire franchise
https://youtu.be/9hSRDczDlSA?si=65dqiRr5tKZQda9s

>>717925823
sahad completely mogs her

>>717921215 (OP)
This boy don't got wings.

Seven is fun and actually difficult if you restrict yourself to adol and don't use healing items

>>717927006
I felt the same when playing it but on a replay it went way down in my list.

Still a fun game, very underrated boss fights that were the last ones to be designed around attack evading instead of abusing iframes.

>>717927484
I dropped Adol as soon as I got Aisha and Sigroon and the final boss kicked my butt so hard with how it was set up. Very frustrating, very memorable. I also absolutely adored the mute girl.

>>717927612
I-Frames and it's consequences has been disasterous for the action game race.

>>717927612
The real wake up call for me was that freaking chicken in the roof I can barely remember.

>>717925379
My issue is that they're charging more than prior entries, yet nothing about the game is showing where the extra $20 they're asking is going towards compared to 8 on Vita.

>>717921215 (OP)
>entire game world is composed of MH zones
>somehow manages to get lost
>blames it on the game
Are you some kind of genuine mongoloid, OP?

>>717928121
Yeah this is very valid. The price is obviously for the blind fans and not nearly as justified otherwise.

which are your favorite games to replay? I marathonned the series after Ys X released and Im ready to replay some
i think I'll do Seven first

>>717926087
9 is even more padded than 8 though
>>717926325
yes you can, 10 is fucking dogshit

Casting Aoi Yuuki as this brat was genius.

>>717928725
wrong. X is a very fun game!

>>717921215 (OP)
>getting your ass kicked in a falcom game
KWAB

Just saw this game is free on PS+ along with 9 but as the ps4 version, is there any difference between the Ps4 played on Ps5 and the native PS5 version?

...

>>717926104
fuck solomon shrine and the underground passage, shit felt like a genuine maze and even with a guide I was getting lost

I finished VIII on the the Switch and just got IX, X Origin and The Oath in Felghana
What should I play next?

>>717928253
Idiots, the map is taking me to an area that is blocked off, no button that I press is fixing it.

>>717930687
IX to get it out of the way since it kinda references VIII
Oath -> Origin to to experience that era of Ys
X to feel caught up to what Falcom is doing I guess.

>>717929031
Only some costumes that might be DLC only.
Vita is the only version with less content.

>>717930687
i played in an insane order and it didn't detract from my enjoyment. Just play whatever seems interesting to you
I'd save Origin until after 1+2 though

>>717921215 (OP)
How do you get lost while having a literal map and quest markers? This is just you being actually retarded or someone who just started playing video games a year ago

>>717930938
Not if where its sending you is blocked off

>>717930921
btw, said insane order
X -> IX -> VIII -> 1+2 -> Origin -> VI -> Oath -> Seven -> Memories of Celceta
was an insanely fun marathon. Im going to play Kefin when I finish the GBA Emblems

>>717931178
The autism is too much
>SCREEN... B LOCKED
<TANTRUM ON /V

>>717930894
I was burnt out on 8 by the time I beat it on Vita. I can't imagine having the extra 2-3hrs of the female-chick dungeon stuff on top of all of that.

>>717931583
>I can't imagine having the extra 2-3hrs of the female-chick dungeon stuff on top of all of that.
I found that fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ta-Tlo2mnM

>>717923149
Useless "head start" dlc that came with the preorder.

>>717931583
It's a pretty fun gameplay-heavy distraction from the main story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylndM6_aNBQ

This track is so fucking good, holy shit.
It's hard to explain but it feels like it is literally perfect (thematically) for the bosses you fight when it plays, and it complements the fights themselves too.

>Getting lost in any ys game besides 2
You're too retarded to breed. castrate yourself.

>>717932440
It's full of leitmotifs you keep hearing throughout the game so yeah

soft n' cushy karja

>>717933747
these little shits are so overpriced

>>717933845
that's why you only buy one to send a message. i love karja

How to design a female counterpart character
>Step 1: give blonde hair

>>717925950
neither made me look up a guide but Ys 2 definitely felt more complicated to navigate through

>>717929031
Better resolution (everything is native 4K, including menus), depth of field, frame rate (up to 120) and loading times.
The faces of the characters from VIII are different on the PS5 version. I think they look worse.

>>717931191
Don't forget about Xanadu Next, Brandish, Zwei, and Gurumin.

>>717921215 (OP)
I recall there was actually a point in the game where the map and quest indicators were straight up lying to you, and you had to go somewhere else first. I forget what and when now though.

>>717934352
wrong tab

>>717935364
i haven't forgot I own them all, I'm being filtered by 30fps caps for some of them. Im gonna play gurumin on my 3ds

This was my first Ys game and I don't remember ever getting lost once. Maybe once in one of the Dana parts actually I couldn't figure out how to trigger a cutscene and it was because I kept going around it on accident.

>>717924179
>Using a mix of clear and distinct landmarks you've been staring at for the entire game and areas distilled down to representations of it to give a visual map of your adventure up to this point as you climb up the mountain

God damn I fucking love it.

>>717921215 (OP)
>Stand in place
>perfect guard everything
>win
No position, no thinking, just parry slop.
They killed Ys with Seven.

my wife dana is real in my heart

>>717940075
>choose to play like a faggot
>complain that the game sucks
Autism at it's finest.

>>717940075
>perfect guard everything
Not as mindless as you make it out to be.
You also have to actually attack at some point.

All I can picture is some guy spamming the flash guard button over and over and getting frustrated with the game and eventually dropping it after game overing to Alvodragil
It'd be even worse in Seven where bosses are HP tanks and you get punished for whiffing perfect guard

>>717940075
>playing defensively
Soulscuck mindset. Try growing some balls

>>717921215 (OP)
that's a low IQ problem buddy.

>>717940724
7 doesn't even explain the flash guard mechanic anywhere, that game wasn't designed around it.

>>717941117
It's right there in the control settings though. Good luck damaging the bosses without flash guard.

>>717926104
>>717930549
>he didn't play the superior DS version with the map
kek

>>717941117
The bird bosses whirlwind attack forces flash guards. Thats like the only one though

>>717941179
I don't think the PSP version had control settings.
I beat 7 without knowing flash guards existed.

>>717922091
You bought pokemon ruby and emerald didn't you?

>>717941254
On what difficulty? Without the flash guard crits the bosses are extremely grindy on Nightmare or whatever the hardest one is.

>>717941371
I don't remember, either Hard or Nightmare
But I do remember the bosses being super grindy, they were definitely balanced around 3 healthbars and healing items.

>>717940724
I like that they are HP tanks and heals are limited. It makes you learn the boss.
YS 8 just lets you farm 5000 coconuts and ignore any danger.
Limited heals is the right blend of old YS and party YS. YS 7 is a masterpiece

>>717941541
They were balanced around flash guard + limit break or whatever anon. It takes care of that last 25% of their health.

>>717921215 (OP)
How are you getting lost in ys 8 isn’t it pretty linear

>>717923959
The narrative claiming that this quote is misattributed to Adol is quite compelling, as many records clearly show that Adol would only communicate by shouting the names of his attacks and grunting in Bryce Papenbrook

>>717940075
It's an offensive type of parry slop, you want to actively get into the attack hitboxes to get those 3 or so seconds of iframes so you can go on the offensive. It's still braindead but at least it was a fresh take on the system.

>>717942391
I don't mind the parry but I hated the slowdown dodge. I generally hate slowdown in action games, it's a pet peeve. But X introducing attacks you couldn't parry was a nice thing. Until they butchered it a bit and made you just press another button with little positioning in mind. What they should have done is make those unparry-able attacks be dodged through good positioning including jumping.

>>717940075
your fault for looking up a guide for seven, noob
the game never tells you about the parry
>No position, no thinking, just parry slop
confirmed for never actually playing the game

The only good YS games are Origin and Oath in Felgana

>>717933921
She's great but her being retconned as the real reason Adol went to the north pole is gay

Every Ys game ranges from very good to excellent
*haven't played the non pc games but I assume they're good because every falcom game is good

Thoughts on Little Paro?

>>717948681
It does a good job giving BATTLE REPORTs

>>717921215 (OP)
>keep getting lost
at least you can explore and learn the world more.

>>717931714
it was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIK738WVSqw

>>717943694
Fuck ark engine games. Stats and level ups are so mandatory they entirely miss the point of an RPG. They should have been pure action with better enemy design instead of being some faux diablo game to pad the length for the only thing with any thoughtful design, the boss fights. Ark engine games are 85% SAWDUST topped off by a good boss

Yunica a cute.

>>717949131
>no remorse
What do you think the point of the ghost ship was

How tf do you get lost in a Ys game

should I play this game? been thinking about it recently

https://youtu.be/3IhQ0Xvc6cg?si=N_s0bPlx5ljSJMju
https://youtu.be/h6TeZW9Rtm8?si=Yrx_cctqvdkk5jyg
https://youtu.be/Lh6pcUcqkSU?si=2SAuxW4C1odkh-ZP


God I fucking miss playing Ys, especially Ys 9 for the first time.

>>717961467
Maybe 9 should've reviewed worse so we'd get an updated rerelease that makes Aprillis playable

>>717921215 (OP)
Doesn't this game give you a dotted line to your objective?

>>717923959
We all know it was actually Dogi who said that.

>>717941956
kek

>>717941956
A TREASURE CHEST!

Wow my thread is still floating around on /v/ all these hours later. This is my best moment.

>>717965317
Spoke too soon kek

>>717967386
Cute green haired Satania.

>>717921215 (OP)
I have never played a Ys game before, but 99% of people who blame the game when they get lost are just facing a serious case of skill issue.

>>717968043
If you get lost in Solomon Shrine you can safely blame the game because that's the point. Ys 2 is probably 40% maze

I've had Origins in my library forever but still haven't played it.

I've never played the bump combat Ys games, are they good?
The concept sounds kind of shit desu but maybe I'm missing something.

>>717961110
it would be in your best interest

>>717921215 (OP)
one of the most overrated jrpgs ever made

>>717969423
>85 on Metacritic
It is underrated actually, it deserves a 90

>>717969348
They're great. Play Ys Chronicles 1&2, and Dawn of Ys.

>>717972253
Very well.
I strongly suspect I will get filtered but I'm still very curious about them, and they are often like 2 dollars on GOG so I might as well.

>>717969020
I just started this today for the first time and I've had it since 2013. It's pretty fun but I do not have 3 back to back playthroughs in me. I might finish the route I am on then play something else and alternate

>>717921215 (OP)
How the fuck do you get lost in this game?