Thread 717944694

IS ACTUALLY OVER

DAMN YOU GABEN

i knew commenting on midna's ass done it in

>own nothing
>act surprised when this is bad

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>717944694 (OP)
MY GAMES........ARE GONE......FOREVER

NOOOOO I DON'T OWN ANYTHING

Its over. Its genuinely fucking over. Holy shit. Everything I've ever owned is gone

>>717945174
>own nothing
>be happy
It really is that simple bros...

>exist in a world where the EU exists
>money stolen

>>717945876
why are anglos like this

>>717944694 (OP)
AYEEEEEE THE ROOTKITS HAVE ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL SAVE BE GABEN

>>717944694 (OP)
Gaben.... lost.

BUT MY GIDEO MAMES

oh shit

Let that be a lesson to you, Gabe.

>>717944694 (OP)
$100k in games. Gone. My entire account is deleted.
Steam support is dangling from the ceiling, Gaben has fled to Cuba, the HQ liquidated by banks, all gaymers are dead or dying.
Total Chad and Stacy victory, now the beta uprising will never happen.
/pol/ and /v/ have been wrong all this time AHHHH I'VE WASTED 20 YEARS ON THIS SHIT SITE

>>717944694 (OP)
We get this thread every week.

Maybe physicalbros were right...

>>717947675
It's tradition at this point.

works on my machine

>>717947391
Chewsday innit?

reminder steamdrones cannot play any of the games they "lawfully bought" during these outages.

works on my machine you indentured servant

>>717950525
a reminder that your race of subhuman street shitter brownoids keep making anti-steam threads for no reason yet you cant even have basic plumbing in your country, your entire race should be genocided off the face of the fucking Earth

717950797
>faced with the truth
>erupts into a racist rant
Why do steamdrones do this?

>>717951141
>gets called out
>can't even reply to a post right
Seething pajeet
>>>/r/eddit

YOU WILL OWN NOZING

>>717950525
what are you talking about? I'm playing one right now

>>717951854
you seem confused, I'm talking about Steam games. You can't play them.

>>717944694 (OP)
go to bed sweeney. you lost

>>717945174
>own nothing
imma stop you right there

>>717952032
Yeah, I'm playing Steam games, a Valve game even, right now.

>>717952089
>here's all the shit I don't own
Nice

>>717952089
you own a certain arragement of magnetic charges?

MY GAMES.

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GAMES?

>>717952431
Yeah. No bored apes though.

>>717952141
Steamies schizo is a liar at the core, since he's from Brazil. He doesn't care that you can still play and download your Steam games. He'll say you can't because it fits his agenda of Valve bashing that originated with a VAC ban.

>>717952431
On a physical piece of hardware, same as a disk.

>>717952534
You don't own games unless you rented them from GOG or Nintendo, sweaty. :3

>>717952595
>GOG
You don't own games on GOG
>Nintendo
You did own Nintendo games, until the Switch 2 went all digital.

All those games...lost in time. Like tears in rain.

>>717952595
You don't own them on a disk either, you don't own your clothes, you don't own anything at all ever for any reason.

>>717952656
>Switch 2 went all digital.
Doesn't look like it
>>717952534
Nice. Enjoy those digital games.

>>717952824
>Doesn't look like it
You didn't look hard enough.

>>717952714
>be me
>dies
>Don't own my house anymore
>other people now own my money
It was a scam all along bros.

>>717952714
Gaslighting doesn't work anymore

>>717944694 (OP)
Big if true.

>>717952884
>>717952882
The only thing you can ever truly own, is your own death.
The last and final moment is yours!

>>717944694 (OP)
>do nothing
>money stolen
fuuuuuuuuuu-

/v/ros... what will i do now?

>>717952867
Switch 2 has full game on cart. Its kinda too late to lie about this

>>717944694 (OP)
What do you mean by down? The store works and I've literally got a game open through Steam right now.

>>717952968
Pull out your disc copy and play that.

I sold my computer just now..it's over bros...switch 2 is the future!

>>717953045
Where do I put my disc?

>>717952976
Name 20.
Because so far I've seen 3. Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Banaza, and CP2077. All other games are just game keys, or even worse, a single use download code.

>>717952882
>>717952884
>>717952927
That's right it's all a scam, all you can do is going along with it until you can't.

>>717953208
No thanks.

>>717953208
Even 3 games on cart is enough to prove it's not all digital. PeeSea cannot compete. Game over. You lose. Good day sir.

>>717953208
>it's ok when PC does it
No wonder PC vegans were voted as the worst fanbase on /v/

>>717953136
...in your optical drive.

>>717953136
just buy a external dvd writer

>>717944694 (OP)
slav developers on suicide watch

>>717951275
Kristin Horn my beloved

one day gaben will be gone and steam will be sold to the highest bidder

>>717953136
open the Hard Drive and insert the disc

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY GAAAAAAAAAMES

>>717953815
2 more weeks. At least they have games.

>>717944694 (OP)
I tried to warn them that digital games are a scam but they wouldn't listen

>>717953815
By then ai will perfect consciousness mimicking and his ai ghost will run valve via emails.

>>717953689
What a shithole.

>dumb butt hurt Steamies are having a meltdown because they can't play the video games that they rented!
>they still haven't learned from their mistakes!
>I don't think they ever will!
EVERY SINGLE TIME!

It really makes you think!

It feels really good to be a real Pirate Chad (PC) Gamer!

do you guys think valve makes the steam drm easy to crack on purpose, like it's literally just dragging in a couple dll files and now you can play any game that uses the default steam drm offline forever,

>>717954281
>do you guys think valve makes the steam drm easy to crack on purpose
yes

>>717954281
You should probably stop paying for piracy. It's not a good look.

>>717953045
>scraches disk
>easily breakable in half or burned (saw it on reddit)

>>717954412
you realize this makes piracy easier too right? do you understand why people want clean steam files on literally any tracker/pirate site?

>>717954281
nah it's just that they hire psychologists instead of cryptographers so their technical solution is garbage and they instead rely on brainwashing techniques to get their users to not even download the game in the first place.

>>717954413
Well as someone with a normal IQ i've never damaged a cd or dvd in the last 30 years so I don't consider that to be a real risk.

>He doesn't have a collection of HDDs ready in case the zombie apocalypse hits
tsk tsk tsk

ya'll are retarded

>>717954469
Is it because they wanted to be a pirate while being a corporate shill at the same time?

>>717954524
As someone with a below normal IQ clumsy fuck that has thrown, misplaced and scratched disk in the last 30 years I can say the disks work fine even with scratches, you have to be a special kind of retard to damage one beyond usage

>>717954217
>continues lying, even though games work fine, and Steamies schizo actually admitted to using Steam

my regards

a hdd with a steam game and goldberg emu is more of a physical copy than having the "physical copy" (the whole game isn't even on the disc)

>>717954708
You built the cart function on your store yet, retard?

>>717954712
>the whole game isn't even on the disc
Not true for almost all games.

>>717954663
>not owning games is "fine"

>>717954595
you do know for you to be able to pirate something at least one person had to of bought it right

>>717954894
"License" is some legal mumbo jumbo that has to be used for publishers to trust Gabe
Steam has never removed a game from an account, Epic did it a couple of weeks ago btw
Stay seething, retard

>>717954581
How do you handle power?

>>717954708
tim im sorry. please release the games.

>>717954938
If no one buys a game is it really worth playing?
Collectors buy rare shit
lolcows buy "so bad it's good"bait games

>>717955001
Some guy on a hamster wheel

>>717955056
what are you even talking about, i'm just saying that steam having such dogshit drm makes it easier for people to pirate because it requires no effort what so ever to actually crack it.

>>717955115
Better idea, zombie in a hamster wheel.

>>717954938
Yup I knew that.
>>717954998
>ok so he took it from me, but at least he keeps it safe and lets me use it

ALL my DLC music, gone forever

Steam is not down though? I've seen multiple threads already what's the point of these?

>>717955192
>ok so he took it from me
Never happened
I paid for it and I can download it as many times as I want on as many places as I want
>B-B-B-B-BUT WITHOUT INTERNET!
I can play in offline mode

Kill yourself

>>717955218
the only music i bought on steam was for undertale when it came out and nuclear throne

oh it been backup? wtf steam

>>717955297
>Never happened
True, he never actually retroactively took something away. He offered a platform that didn't let you own what you purchased and you blindly walked into it.

>>717944694 (OP)
GOG bros we won, its over steamies

>>717955471
Not my fault you didn't know how the internet worked before signing up to Steam
Yes retard, you need internet to download games online
Yes retard, the games have to be hosted somewhere for you to download them
Steam has never removed games from a library, only from the store when the publishers shit themselves

Offline mode has been a thing for almost 20 years now

Kill yourself

>>717955649
No thanks, I have to much to live for

>>717955604
I have... No other choice...

my pvz chinkino, autistic minecraft modpacks, and emulated and pirated games dont do this so they are better

>>717955604
You should unironically support GOG in it's game preservation games
And use Steam for everything else

>>717954281
I don't think it's on purpose, but I also think they don't care because Gaben was 100% right when he said that piracy is a service problem, or at least 95% right outside of the poorfags and thirdies who you wouldn't be collecting money from anyway, so there's no point in investing in trying to win an arms race with the crack community.

>>717955743
No you don't

Actually you know what, fuck you, I'm coming for you retard. Better watch your fucking back.

>>717954894
>I "own" games, which I don't, but I say I do

Are you all third world Americans with shit internet? Steam is literally NEVER down for me. It has never happened even once.

>>717958740
Bring it
>>717958794
No I actually own many games. Just none on my PC because that's not possible anymore, thanks to steam.

>>717959398
>because that's not possible anymore
What is GOG?

>>717959550
GoG is another PC storefront like Steam that doesn't let you own the games you purchase. Glad you asked.

you must kiss gabe to get your games back

>>717959694
All games were sold as licenses, even before digital distribution became the thing to do. You technically weren't supposed to be reselling discs, but it was just completely unenforceable that nobody bothered trying to do anything about it until network infrastructure got advanced enough that games could be distributed mostly or entirely digitally.

All that said, GoG telling you not to transfer games is completely unenforceable in the same way, the installers are DRM free, you can burn them onto discs and give them to whoever you want. That's in there to cover their own asses if angry lawyers come calling.

>>717959993
I'd make out with Gabe's asshole for free.
A kiss is a walk in the park

>>717960501
But enforcability vs reality are two different things. You don't own games on cartridge, disk, or disc. Saying "they can't enforce it" doesn't change the fact that games have always been licensed, not sold.

>>717960501
NOOOOOO BUT THE INTERNET
YOU DON'T OWN ANYTHING
AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>717960501
>this ferarri is mine
>It's just technically my neighbors and now it's in my garage

>>717960750
>false equivalency
no one cares about your imaginary ferrari

>>717960578
That's true, not denying it, but I feel it needs to be clarified that this is how licensing always worked. The advent and propagation of network infrastructure just made it easier to control. Of all the distributors out there, GoG is by far the most benign, if they cared about enforceability, they would have implemented harder DRM, and they haven't. Even Steam's DRM is pretty easy to defeat, almost by design I suspect.

>>717960750
You can't download a car, or install one in your garage from a bootleg CD.

>>717960578
>You don't own games on cartridge, disk, or disc.
Yes you do actually.

>>717960836
You can't download a game cart, or install a game cart into your PC

>>717960860
I own all the files in my steamapps folder too, retard. I just got them from a server instead of a CD.

It's chewsdey innit?

>>717960860
No, he's correct, you don't own the "game" as such, you own the storage medium it's on, and that's what you're allowed to transfer and resell. A lot of people get that mixed up. Digital infrastructure removes the storage medium from the equation in a technical sense. Strictly speaking, once you download the game on your gaming system of choice, there is absolutely no legal tape in the way preventing other people from playing the game on your system, thereby "transferring" the storage medium. They try to get around it with accounts and DRM, but they can't really stop you from letting other people play games on your system if they come round your house.

>Steamies and GOGoonies are arguing with each other again!

>>717961079
It sure is, Steamie!

>>717961008
You can't own digital games unfortunately.
>>717961140
>No, he's correct, you don't own the "game" as such, you own the storage medium it's on, and that's what you're allowed to transfer and resell
Yes. That's what's called 'owning a game'. The physical aspect of the media is a token that represents the value of the property you own. What did you think I was talking about, owning the IP?

>>717961140
And Steam actually makes it legal to share games, when physical media had licenses that expressly forbade it.

>>717961346
You own two objects when you buy a game on physical cartridges or discs. You own the physical object, that's yours, direct property, and you own a license for what's on it, the game. Consumers have never owned "games", only developers/publishers actually own games as property.

>>717961497
I already knew that.

>>717953045
Data on a disc is not different from data on a SSD.

>>717961578
We're discussing legal semantics here, you can't say 'owning a game' and not clarify that what you really own is a 'game license'.

>>717961630
Bet I can install my Steam copy and have it fully patched faster than you can from disc.

>>717953136
I hate cases like this, I can barely find any decent cases anymore with optical and floppy drive mounts. Fucking faggots, stop making me buy externals, let me integrate.

come home anon

>>717961708
What's the legal semantics for what steam users forfeited that people owning physical media didn't? Both users own licenses so saying I own a license is useless for trolling PC vegans.

>>717961849
There's no real reason to use floppies or optical drives anymore other than to transfer your legacy crap once (and floppies are even more worthless, as pretty much any game that came on floppies is floating around on the cyber highway).

>>717961346
How is a CD different from a hard disk you fucking retard, I have the files, I can play the game. I """""""""""""own""""""""""""" it just like you

>>717961957
>vegans are vocal and annoying about how good their celery is
>you are vocal and annoying about how good your game ownership is

>meat eaters think vegans are faggots
>gamers think you're a faggot
HMMMMMMMMM.

>>717961957
It's not what Steam users forfeited, it's what we accepted, and that was DRM. Copy protection is inherently intended to prevent you from transfer the storage medium that contains the game, and thus the license.

Console users aren't exempt from this by the way, but the console ecosystem definitely lasted longer. It's over now since what you buy is usually a disc with part of the game on it (sometimes not even that) and a one-use activation code that ties the game to your non-transferable account.

>>717961964
I don't give a solid solitary FUCK what autistic people consider to be "real reasons" to do things. I'm not rational, I use CDs and floppies because I feel like it. The autistic fixation with hyperoptimising every aspect of society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>717962264
>I can play the game, that means I own it
Never gets old.
>>717962273
Feel free to call me ownership vegan
>>717962427
Can you answer my question or are you useless to me?

>>717962427
>I don't give a solid solitary FUCK what autistic people consider to be "real reasons" to do things. I'm not rational, I use CDs and floppies because I feel like it. The autistic fixation with hyperoptimising every aspect of society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Oh, you're not American, and are therefore insane. I have no further desire to engage with you.

>>717961346
>You can't own digital games unfortunately
explain to me how valve can take away a game with goldberg emu thats on my computer

>>717962756
Did answer your question, there's nothing you can say that would be objectively correct to imply that console users are in a superior position in terms of game ownership, because you're in the same position as us at this point. Your only option is to lie and hope whoever's arguing with you is too stupid to understand the reality, in which case it hardly matters what you say as long as you make it sound convincing.

it up

>>717962264
Can you touch your game? No, it doesn't exists

>>717963089
>there's nothing you can say that would be objectively correct to imply that console users are in a superior position in terms of game ownership
False. Also this isn't consoles vs PC, it's physical vs digital. I own many physical PC games.

>>717963398
Ah, I see where you're coming from now. Just tell them they're on the clock for the servers they rely on for distribution going down. Most people don't have the technical competence to bypass DRM, so they can't move their games to cold storage.

>>717963304
Yes, I can touch my hard drive like you can touch your CD, retard.

>>717952089
YOU! DO! NOT! OWN! THAT!!!
YOU OWN NOTHING!!!!!!
YOU OWN NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING OWN FUCKING NOTHING YOU STUPID FUCKING GOYIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>717963848
You don't own any of that. The government can and will come in to repossesse that at a moment's notice and you will do nothing ;)

>>717963848
Your hard drive isn't media. Are you tech illiterate?

>>717964209
But will he be happy?

>>717964209
You lost

>>717964308
>>717964346
How's that different from your DVD collections, retard.

>>717965563
I own my dvd collections.

>>717965787
And I own my hard drive, retard

>>717965847
>takes your hard-drive
>puts into my PC and open the game file
>Steam tells me I need to buy it to play it
What do you own again?

>>717944694 (OP)
what happen ?
>>717952882
the Government can take your house away in 5 min and you can't do shit about it anon

>>717944694 (OP)
Holy shit! we are so back!

>>717961849
I was lucky to find a DeepCool case with an exposed front panel that can fit a CD drive or one of those hotswap SSD drive bays
It's ugly as fuck but it does the job so whatever

>>717966321
They widened the road in front of my subdivision, and the county just took land from the 2 houses at the front. They paid them for it, but they had no choice.

>>717944694 (OP)
>people make these threads
>steam is never down when they do
Huh?