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Anonymous No.717950298 >>717952051 >>717952989 >>717953963 >>717954064 >>717960198 >>717960452 >>717961087 >>717961339 >>717961525 >>717961949 >>717962012 >>717962498 >>717963592 >>717964121 >>717964583 >>717965180 >>717965315 >>717967037 >>717968746 >>717969681 >>717970045 >>717971553 >>717972340 >>717978041 >>717978109 >>717978364 >>717979929 >>717986626 >>717987143 >>717988128 >>717988226 >>717989792 >>717989986 >>717994040 >>717996372 >>717997681 >>717999223 >>717999370 >>718003823 >>718006762 >>718009634 >>718025162 >>718025257
I hate politics in video games
Anonymous No.717950353 >>717950429 >>717952043 >>717968984 >>717969267 >>717973850 >>717979318 >>717980148 >>717980535 >>717982948 >>717986018 >>717986646 >>718009476 >>718024835 >>718025324
What a shit thread.
Anonymous No.717950365 >>717954291 >>717960387 >>717962224 >>717962725 >>717967904 >>717968997 >>717969454 >>717987554 >>717990614
Anonymous No.717950429 >>717950485 >>717951612 >>717952317 >>717952505 >>717953387 >>717954157 >>717955413 >>717961949 >>717962367 >>717963092 >>717964309 >>717965315 >>717967983 >>717968396 >>717969175 >>717969820 >>717978364 >>717987837 >>717991091 >>717991273 >>718001878 >>718006762 >>718012728
>>717950353
So do you only consider a game to be political if trump is in it? I just want 3 examples of political games if MGS and Bioshock don't count
Anonymous No.717950485
>>717950429
That art degree is doing you wonders.
Anonymous No.717951109 >>717951627 >>717986269 >>717995093 >>718014670
Will child molestation victims ever figure out why no one complains about politics in games like MGS1-5?
Anonymous No.717951612 >>718010262
>>717950429
easy, if it has woke shit in it, it’s political, if it has things that align with my views then it’s just normal so not political

duh
Anonymous No.717951627
>>717951109
if they're not smart enough to accept the genitals they were born with they're never going to be smart enough to figure that out
Anonymous No.717951687
yeah "politics"
Anonymous No.717952043 >>717978053
>>717950353
are you people retarded on purpose or does this level of political derangement just actually damage your brain
Anonymous No.717952051 >>717960331
>>717950298 (OP)
why did you pretend to block out that user's name? it is very clear that you used a lower opacity brush so everyone can still see who posted it.
Anonymous No.717952317 >>717978110
>>717950429
there is politic, political, identity politics, marxist screeching. people generally don't have a problem with the first two.
Anonymous No.717952437
"politics serves the plot" vs. "the plot serves politics"
similarly,
"the character is gay" vs. "gay is the character"
Anonymous No.717952505 >>717952815 >>717952894 >>717953091 >>717953191 >>717961416 >>717961796 >>717962905 >>717964019 >>717966045 >>717967489 >>717968541 >>717970039 >>717983983 >>717984413 >>717989410 >>718001104 >>718013390
>>717950429
Good politics in games:
>Faction A thinks this with these pros and cons.
>Faction B thinks this with these pros and cons.
>Faction C thinks this with these pros and cons.
>Now what do YOU think?
Examples: Deus Ex, Human Revolution, New Vegas, Alpha Protocol, etc.

Bad politics in games:
>Everyone who disagrees with me, the writer, is stupid!!!
Examples: TLOU 2, Disco Elysium, Watch Dogs 2, RDR 2, etc.
Your Anal Nightmare No.717952574 >>717952875 >>717971269 >>717980876 >>718020668
Some politics are worth discussing.
Anonymous No.717952815
>>717952505
There is political philosophy, and there is this.
Anonymous No.717952875 >>717980079
>>717952574
demoflats get out /v/ is rebooblican territory
Anonymous No.717952894 >>717953169 >>717964180 >>717969065
>>717952505
Disco Elysium sort of teeters the line, definitely not in the same field as tlou2 and rdr2
Anonymous No.717952989
>>717950298 (OP)
>Politics is in every single video game
Imagine you fucking niggers making politics your entire personality.
Anonymous No.717953075 >>717953153 >>717953385 >>717953847 >>717961941 >>717972930 >>717973416 >>717981108 >>717983686 >>717986765 >>717987109 >>717989840 >>718012832 >>718021098
name one video game that's not political. i will argue with any of you to prove that politics is in everything and it's the main focus on anything and everything.
Anonymous No.717953091 >>717967961
>>717952505
New Vegas is woke
Anonymous No.717953153 >>717953248
>>717953075
>I'm retarded
Thanks for sharing.
Anonymous No.717953169 >>717953802 >>717956630 >>717961416 >>718013442
>>717952894
>Disco Elysium sort of teeters the line
No it doesn't. Commies get made fun of for being lame, Nazis meanwhile have literal brain damage
Anonymous No.717953191 >>717963163
>>717952505
The Legion in NV is definitely stupid for disagreeing with the writers
Anonymous No.717953248 >>717956438
>>717953153
i accept your concession.
Anonymous No.717953385 >>717953552
>>717953075
Pong
Anonymous No.717953387 >>717953618
>>717950429
Because there are different kinds of politics. A lot of woke politics is about identity which is cringe and shit. Nobody wants to hear about that shit. MGS is anti-war, anti-military industrial complex, anti-nuclear weapons, etc. These are broad generalized messages that are about humanity not white people are bad.
Anonymous No.717953552 >>717953575 >>717969109
>>717953385
pong is the most political game out there, you literally have the left and the right
Anonymous No.717953575
>>717953552
This. So much this.
Anonymous No.717953618 >>717953839 >>717961339 >>717963763 >>717970241 >>717973145 >>717978345 >>718012598
>>717953387
...Are you stupid? MGS has the Boss literally lecturing you on open borders, then you become Che Guevara. Kojima hates you.

Rightoids have ZERO media literacy lmao
Anonymous No.717953729
Politics - Good.
Hamfisted politics written by people who got their minds broken by orange man - Bad.
Anonymous No.717953802 >>717956769
>>717953169
>Nazis meanwhile have literal brain damage
No they don't, I think you're projecting.
Anonymous No.717953839 >>717960827 >>717960915
>>717953618
Liberal trannies don't give a shit about the military industrial complex. They want "politics" about self-identity, racism, and equality. MGS is the real "political" game without being obnoxious about it.
Anonymous No.717953847 >>717962089
>>717953075
Custer's revenge
Anonymous No.717953963
>>717950298 (OP)
It's not politics, it's politics I disagree with
Anonymous No.717954064 >>717954110 >>717964964
>>717950298 (OP)
I just don't want to see nor hear Leftist/Democrat beliefs in any media. I don't care about politics, just the subhuman ones that "people" like you should be tied down, and beaten viscously to death for. I will always and forever be against Leftist/Democrat propaganda. No matter what.
Anonymous No.717954110
>>717954064
Yeah I just wanna grill, personally.
Anonymous No.717954157
>>717950429
It's about execution. When I have a nigger with purple hair in a tanktop trying to lecture me about racism in the most obnoxious way possible, nobody is going to take that seriously.
Anonymous No.717954291
>>717950365
Gender identity is different and much more gay and awful/hacky
Anonymous No.717954508
>idpol is LE BAD!!!!!
>I-I-IS that a nonwhite, woman or LGBTQ?! SAVE ME IDPOL, I'M BEING GENOCIDED BY LE WOKE
Anonymous No.717954629
Plot, story cums first. politics is last. The political part is there to drive a story. And it's neat to see the inspirations on where it came from. But using it as some sort of holy grail of completely ignore everything else like gameplay, the epic story, plot twists, incredible music, ect just makes you look like you're an unhealthy political nutjob. it's also not an excuse to start unsolicited political debates when talking about stuff like this within games. people PLAY video games to be entertained, not to be educated. if you want to get educated on politics, pick up a fucking book nigger.
Anonymous No.717954775 >>717965891
LE ORANGE MAN IS LITERALLY LE AUSTRIAN PAINTER
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH I AM PEACH
Anonymous No.717954812
people's vocabulary is so limited now discussions like this look downright schizophrenic as not a single person can agree on what "politics" even means
Anonymous No.717955413
>>717950429
compare wolfenstein the new order and wolfenstein 2 stories and you can clearly see why people suddenly got tired of politics in games. westoid writers just don't have the depth to write them anymore and they just come out like propaganda pieces. something like bioshock would be filled with maga references if it came out nowadays.
death stranding is an inherently political game but nobody really notices it because the point isn't to say everyone who voted on trump should be killed, but actually tackling the ideas directly.
Anonymous No.717956438
>>717953248
You didn't need to confirm what I already knew.
Anonymous No.717956630 >>717956769
>>717953169
which nazi has brain damage?
Anonymous No.717956769 >>717961747 >>717984309
>>717953802
>>717956630
so you didn't play the game
Anonymous No.717959130 >>717960845 >>717964475 >>717988823
if you can't tell the difference between tranny/blm propaganda and actual politics you're unsalvageable
Anonymous No.717960198 >>717964576
>>717950298 (OP)
What these guys are actually saying is that since leftists are doing something retarded, they will also stop doing the retarded thing if the left stops, because it's retarded regardless of who's doing it. They are saying that, because of them having had this bad experience when the left was in power, when they get back into power they will refuse to use the leftists' tools against them, because they don't want the leftists to have an equally bad experience. This is an offer for setting up a neutral space that everyone can enjoy. They are willing to sacrifice their own political power for the wellbeing of their enemies.
Anonymous No.717960331 >>717966257
>>717952051
All photo manipulation programs for smartphones prevent drawing over stuff with full opacity. I suspect it's some type of mandate for law enforcement. The power of censorship is denied to the masses.
Anonymous No.717960387 >>717960715 >>717962445
>>717950365
>Political messages I agree to are good and not politics
The irony
Anonymous No.717960452 >>717960646
>>717950298 (OP)
>Erm chudigga... everything, even the tinest choices that go into designing a game, is political. EVERYTHING!
>Wtf you can't point out the obvious political slant to the story or the races of the characters! Chudigga chudigga chudigga!!!!
Anonymous No.717960646
>>717960452
>you just don't understand the politics
>and if you do you're uhh ugly
Anonymous No.717960715
>>717960387
Anonymous No.717960827 >>717960958 >>717964171
>>717953839
>WAR BAD WAR BAD WAR BAD
You were saying? MGS is a great game but Kojima REALLY beats over your head how bad War is.
Anonymous No.717960845 >>717960912 >>717963250 >>717990854
>>717959130
>commie propaganda good
kys
Anonymous No.717960912
>>717960845
SAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR
Anonymous No.717960915 >>717960958 >>717961541
>>717953839
> without being obnoxious about it.
>Literally stops the game for half an hour to play a literal documentary lecturing you about why war bad
Anonymous No.717960958 >>717961208
>>717960827
>>717960915
shit i forgot, libtards are ostensibly pro-MIC these days
Anonymous No.717961087
>>717950298 (OP)
>only 351 hours
Nevermind that you don't even have all the cheevos, you didn't TRUE 100% the game. Bet you don't even have the gold Snake nameplate.
Anonymous No.717961208
>>717960958
>the right totally HATES the military! And Jews! And race mixing! And mass immigration!
That's all the ones I can think of for now. Any others you'd like to add for the Fell For It Again compilation?
Anonymous No.717961339
>>717950298 (OP)
Is the political message that war is fucking awesome, secret human experimentation is cool(gives you magic powers), and pmcs are noble bands of honorable brothers who minimize casualties at great personal risk?

>>717953618
>I give re intah vu say re drump very bad! Buy my biga roboto game!
Anonymous No.717961416 >>717961985 >>717963092 >>718013507
>>717952505
Disco Elysium actually belongs to the top part
>>717953169
>Nazis meanwhile have literal brain damage
None of them do unless you count Harry
One of the best characters in the game is a fascist who's even respected even by the biggest commie in the game. Westerners wouldn't add any depth to him and just make him your stereotypical racist old man
Also Measurehead was cool, and even called out on the racist lorry driver, saying racists don't make a good example of their races

The only group that the game actively shitting on without giving them any slack are centrists
Anonymous No.717961525 >>717961628 >>717961754
>>717950298 (OP)
Metal Gear politics are more subtle than modern day political games where you can pinpoint the tweets that sum up the game's message
Anonymous No.717961541
>>717960915
>War bad, says the old skeleton man before dropping you off to wage war in a warzone
>Also here is magic fireball man wage war against him, and his magic gang, here is this big booba babe, and cool friends with guns.
>STANDINGHERE
Anonymous No.717961614 >>717963363 >>717964549
The phrase "media literacy" has been permanently ruined because the dumbest people on earth have adopted it and deploy it constantly over the most retarded shit you've ever seen in your life
Anonymous No.717961628
>>717961525
Which says a lot because MG's politics is extremely on the nose.
Anonymous No.717961747
>>717956769
So you can't answer the question?
Anonymous No.717961754
>>717961525
>t. consumes video games via basedboy youtube videos
Anonymous No.717961791
Anon there's people that unironically miss the point of death from above in CoD 4 and think it's a rad representation of military power instead of shuddering at the thought of gamifying war and detaching the soldier from the atrocities being committed.
CoD 4 was a well thought out game but some people think it boils down to AMERICA FUCK YEAH SHOOT BROWN PEOPLE
Anonymous No.717961796 >>717961912
>>717952505
>Faction D : Sidesteps your color chart entirely and carves out his own path through the ensuring carnage
Anonymous No.717961912
>>717961796
>totalitarian but power fantasy
Not super original.
Anonymous No.717961941
>>717953075
Koikatsu
Anonymous No.717961949 >>717982939
>>717950298 (OP)
>>717950429
The same presumptuous dickwads who beat their drums about muh media literacy cannot see beyond a simple sentence at a surface level. Are they playing coy or just plain retarded?

No clarification is needed, the issue is self-evident. Everyone knows the kinds of politics being addressed in older vs newer games and how writing overall took a massive nose dive in media over the past 5-10 years. TLOU2 alone has more LGBTblahblah token Representashun(tm) than entire generations of games. The forced trend is obvious.
Anonymous No.717961985
>>717961416
He'll no doubt bring up one of Harrys mental gymnastics during one of his thought cabinet moments instead of the actual people you interact with in game.
Anonymous No.717962012
>>717950298 (OP)
I love my politics in video games
Anonymous No.717962089
>>717953847
>If you rape your enemies, you win.
Sun Tzu - Art of Whore
Anonymous No.717962152 >>717962294 >>717962297
It's funny when people think they "owned" someone complaining about current-day politicians and political movements being awkwardly forced into media by saying
>hurr durr but Metal Gear was anti-war!!!

Making a statement about the nature of humanity and war isn't "political."
If Liquid said he wanted to "Make American Great Again!" then that would be exactly what people today are complaining about.
Anonymous No.717962224
>>717950365
Coincidentally the games on the left have been renowned for their writing and will be remembered for decades, possibly centuries. What will you have from the right? Live service slop that gets discarded the second the publishers are bored? A shitty sequel that even diehard fans struggle to defend the writing of?
Anonymous No.717962267 >>717962465
I much prefer the propaganda in my art to be subtle and not experience-ruining rather than:
>"BLACK LIVES MATTER YT CRACKER INCEL! TOXIC FASCIST MASCULINITY HAS NO PLACE HERE! YOUR MOTHER FUCKED MEN BEFORE ME AND THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS! YOU TYPED GAY IN CHAT = MONEYSTOLEN" and so on
Anonymous No.717962294 >>717969170
>>717962152
>They’ll make America great again!
Said by Senator Armstrong. Of course that game came out long before the Trump movement but still.
Anonymous No.717962297 >>717962770 >>717963136
>>717962152
>if I muddy the waters and use bad faith argumentation, I can push my own politics to the fore!
Nice try, faggot.
Anonymous No.717962327 >>717962465 >>717962646
I much prefer the propaganda in my art to be subtle and not experience-ruining rather than:
>"BLACK LIVES MATTER YT CRACKER INCEL! TOXIC FASCIST MASCULINITY HAS NO PLACE HERE! YOUR MOTHER FUCKED MEN BEFORE ME AND THAT'S NOT MY BUSINESS! YOU TYPED GAY IN CHAT = MONEYSTOLEN!"
and so on
Anonymous No.717962367 >>717963652 >>717980535
>>717950429
Chuds and grifters don't have media literacy, so don't expect any honest answers from them.
Anonymous No.717962445 >>717963224 >>717964616
>>717960387
Anonymous No.717962465 >>717962532
>>717962267
>>717962327
The bot's here.
Anonymous No.717962498 >>717962574 >>717962627 >>717962637 >>717962646 >>717963165 >>717964281
>>717950298 (OP)
Metal Gear politics have only the most cursory relation to the real world. There are no nano machines or bipedal tanks or literal vampires. Nobody's commanding swarms of bees. It might as well be on another planet. The only thing that relates to IRL is the "nukes bad" bullshit Japs are obsessed with for obvious reasons.
Anonymous No.717962532 >>717962723
>>717962465
I just messed up my post and deleted it, newsissy
Anonymous No.717962574
>>717962498
>Nobody's commanding swarms of bees
Anonymous No.717962627
>>717962498
So what if you didn't have breakfast today?
Anonymous No.717962637
>>717962498
>2020 + 5
>not being an accomplished beemancer
Ngmi
Anonymous No.717962646 >>717962778
>>717962327
This. If you're going to include politics in your games make it interesting. Explore the ideas. That's why MGS, Bioshock and Deus Ex are all used as good examples.

>>717962498
Eh the base idea is still the same. Even if the man with a beehive living in him can't exist in the real world the idea of a man reuniting with his commander because he couldn't put war away can. Burn away the near future and supernatural stuff and it's not that far from the real world.
Anonymous No.717962723 >>717962785
>>717962532
>frogposter wants to shitpost juuuuuust right
uh oh stinky!
Anonymous No.717962725
>>717950365
>Have politic
pleas sars, the difference... it could redeem your life
Anonymous No.717962770 >>717962906 >>717963351
>>717962297
>if i claim every game about war is political then people will love dragon age vanguard!
No.
BTW your cult friends forced pic related to pop-up every time you boot up the Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection. Maybe you should double-check with one of your leaders if the franchise really is in your "side" if you consider its themes outdated and should be left behind.
Anonymous No.717962778
>>717962646
>The Fury becoming the living embodiment of cosmic rage because he will never get to see the stars again in his short lifetime.
>Let alone walk amongst them because the powers that be can't scale their control above the planetary level
The Fury was just too pure for this fake and gay world
Anonymous No.717962785 >>717962970
>>717962723
>anything i dont like is a shitpost!!!!
this is why nobody likes you
Anonymous No.717962905
>>717952505
DE is actually in the former because it's basically taking the piss out of everything mentioned and your primary job is to be the drunken asshole
Anonymous No.717962906
>>717962770
>beep boop NPC antagonism program activated, left team right team algorithms initiated!
You're a faggot just like the ones who put the disclaimer in the collection. You just want a different set of disclaimers and a different set of approved themes.
Anonymous No.717962970 >>717963328
>>717962785
>he thinks his shitposts are intellectual
Oh no. Oh no haha wow ahahahahaha wow look at this guy haha wow wow wow fucking hell look at this hahahahaha lol wow
Anonymous No.717963092 >>717968086 >>717983801 >>718025569
>>717950429
it's not about trump and the picture isn't even meant to imply it is. it's about how politics is handled. something like deus ex is fine, the problem is when the handling of "politics" is just "my viewpoint good contrasting viewpoint bad." it's not even a problem for a writer to intend for the player to come to a particular conclusion as long as they don't literally beat you over the head with how they're obviously right and you should feel bad if you disagree.

>>717961416
it has elements of both. there's a part where kim goes on about how dangerous it would be for civilians to have access to firearms and damn near does a camera take and says something like well it's a good thing we don't live in a world like that. no option for rebuttal or anything, it's literally just the writer of that scene having a view and using kim as a mouthpiece to beat you over the head with it.
Anonymous No.717963136 >>717963209
>>717962297
>>if I muddy the waters and use bad faith argumentation, I can push my own politics to the fore!
That is literally the MO by snivelling nu-leftist weasels that pretend to not know what people are calling them out on, so they can continue to push their retarded agendas unquestioned.

No, Neil, a tranny sidekick and a love triangle involving a pregnant dyke and another stronk independent pregnant woman forcing herself on the frontline ALL in the same post-apocalyptic story is not natural or relatable even a little bit, and it shouldn't be fucking normalized.
Anonymous No.717963163
>>717953191
Obsidian's relationship with the Legion is so weird. Part of it is definitely they really didn't want you agreeing with them and part of it is a lot of stuff had to be cut to make the launch date.
Anonymous No.717963165 >>717963296 >>717963415
>>717962498
Do you think that The Lord of the Rings has only cursory relation to the real world because orcs, elves, hobbits, and dwarfs aren't real?
Anonymous No.717963209 >>717963378
>>717963136
>the left is doing it, but I want to be the one to do it!
Yes yes, I fucking know. You're both utterly unbearable and I hate you both equally.
Anonymous No.717963224
>>717962445
this artist is so kino
gemmy, rather
Anonymous No.717963250 >>717963453 >>718014432
>>717960845
>poverty GOOD actually
what
Anonymous No.717963296 >>717963441 >>717963608
>>717963165
It has literally nothing to do with the real world moron
Anonymous No.717963328
>>717962970
Ok Thor
Anonymous No.717963351
>>717962770
>The themes in MGS are considered outdated
Eh? How? I guess the Geopolitical world is a lot different than what Kojima envisioned in the 90s and 00s but it's not like one of the Banned 11 cartoons with blackface or shit like that.
Anonymous No.717963363 >>717963461
>>717961614
I'm glad I instantly recognized it as a pseud phrase and avoided adopting it into my vocabulary. It's literary nonsense from the same spergy predditors and tranimals we've come to know and despise. The shit takes never cease.
Anonymous No.717963378 >>717963657
>>717963209
>the left is doing it, but I want to be the one to do it!
What the fuck are you even talking about, you imbecile? You try so hard to appear as a level-headed centrist but you're just a projecting midwit.
Anonymous No.717963415
>>717963165
>Do you think that The Lord of the Rings has only cursory relation to the real world because orcs, elves, hobbits, and dwarfs aren't real?
No but the Palantir is about to become a very real thing once the global mandate rolls out. Really living up to that Tolkien quote like they aren't part of some great cosmic comedy skit.
Anonymous No.717963441 >>717963560
>>717963296
Thank you for clarifying that we can completely disregard your posts.
Anonymous No.717963453 >>717964842
>>717963250
political weapon is when you don't get everything for free
Anonymous No.717963461 >>717963702 >>717963798
>>717963363
Pretending that only the people you don't like used this mass-used phrase denotes you as an idiot.
Anonymous No.717963513 >>717963753
>nerd culture, viciously abused, downtrodden by society, slowly recovering from being targeted by talentless morons who hate them for being better: "Uh, I'd rather not have any politics in my games because I inextricably associate politics with lecturing and normalfags"
>tranny: "OUUUGH GUIASE LOOK AT ME I AM NERD MY FAVORITE NONPOLITICAL VIDEO GAMES ARE METAL GEAR SOLID AND BIOSHOCK CENTRISM IS THE WAY TO GO I AM TOTALLY NOT NEO-NAZI PLEASE THROW ME IN A PSYCH WARD LOLOLOL"
Anonymous No.717963560 >>717963634
>>717963441
Ah yes a world of pixies dwarves goblins and elves is real commentary on blumpf
Anonymous No.717963592
>>717950298 (OP)
Kojima is stupid though because he makes war seem too cool so his messages are like whatever at times.
Anonymous No.717963608 >>717964023
>>717963296
>Tolkien definitely didn't apply a lot of what he saw during WW1 in his writing
Anonymous No.717963634 >>717964023
>>717963560
lotr isn't a world and worlds aren't commeentary
Anonymous No.717963652
>>717962367
Anonymous No.717963657 >>717963906
>>717963378
Your insults mean nothing. You're using leftist tactics with different causes. Why would I care what you say?
I'm just here to point out that you're a fool.
Anonymous No.717963702 >>717963872
>>717963461
"Media literacy" is not a commonly used term.
Anonymous No.717963753 >>717963857 >>717964679
>>717963513
The hell are you even saying? Is this what internet brainrot looks like?
Anonymous No.717963763 >>717965017 >>717968862 >>717984545 >>717989530 >>718025987
>>717953618
You literally kill the boss. She's the antagonist. You kill her because her ideas are evil. Then you become evil too, so Solid Snake (SS) kills you.
Anonymous No.717963798 >>717963872
>>717963461
>mass-used phrase
It was literally shot down before that term reached critical mass BECAUSE of my picrel, but you're a fucking moronic bitch with no memory span trying to revise history
Anonymous No.717963857
>>717963753
she is an intellectual. be kind.
Anonymous No.717963872 >>717963951
>>717963702
Retard
>>717963798
Idiot
Anonymous No.717963906 >>717963930
>>717963657
>You're using leftist tactics
>causes
Meds, retard.
Anonymous No.717963930 >>717964107
>>717963906
>generic phrase #274 activated
Beep boop Mr. Robot.
Anonymous No.717963951 >>717964002
>>717963872
Your concession has been accepted and your mother's request to wrap her nasty pussy around my cock has been denied.
Anonymous No.717964002 >>717964116
>>717963951
>I accept your concessionposting
Speaking of phrases thoroughly embraced by idiots.
Anonymous No.717964019
>>717952505
>Disco Elysium
It doesn't matter which political side you choose you will be mocked, but it will all be good for Harry.
Anonymous No.717964023 >>717964068
>>717963608
>>717963634
No, tolkien never intended his fantasy magic world of wizards and ogres to be your far right nativist fantasy
Anonymous No.717964068
>>717964023
You're right. He didn't. Considering the ring is an allegory for corruption and unchecked authority.
Anonymous No.717964107 >>717980590
>>717963930
>a position that is so common sense that anon has to shitpost and play the dumb fence sitter to generate further discussion
I get it. But you can drop the act now, before 'le ironic' rot fully takes over your brain.
Anonymous No.717964116
>>717964002
You verbatim said "Idiot" when you ran out of actual arguments to lob at me, so yeah, you lost. I don't want to fuck your nasty ass mom, neither. Also, thanks for admitting media literacy is a pseud term embraced by idiots. Turns out, it is ridiculously easy to manipulate dumbass liars into telling the truth.
Anonymous No.717964121 >>717964258
>>717950298 (OP)
To be fair it's very easy to ignore the politics in MGSV
Anonymous No.717964171 >>717964432 >>717990129
>>717960827
>also nukes bad hiroshima nagasaki warcrimes total global disarmament now
Anonymous No.717964180 >>717964263
>>717952894
Trolling this horribly should be bannable but unfortunately mods suck on here.
Anonymous No.717964258
>>717964121
That's why "woke" is the way it is, it has to be in your face and tell you exactly what it is. That the message can be ignored or even misinterpreted to ideologies opposing their own causes them concern.
Anonymous No.717964263
>>717964180
You're just retarded.
Anonymous No.717964281 >>717964493
>>717962498
>Metal Gear politics have only the most cursory relation to the real world
Did we not play the same game or do you fast forward through dialogue?
Anonymous No.717964309 >>717964553 >>717985832
>>717950429
Front Mission franchise
For fuck sake, FM1 literally ends with a speech about a world without borders and cultural identity and FM2 is about fucking colonialism and the consequences for nations.
Anonymous No.717964432 >>717964608
>>717964171
>Heh, you think war is bad and evil?
>What about the war you were in where you were bad and evil?
>Owned!!! LOLOLOL
the media illiteracy is off the charts today......
Anonymous No.717964475 >>717969254 >>718012987
>>717959130
Top half is retarded. Poverty absolutely can happen in nature, where animals, bugs, plants, and even microorganisms can starve to death due to being outcompeted.
Anonymous No.717964493 >>717964873
>>717964281
Other than the cold war background of mgs3, every main conflicts in the games are made up.
Anonymous No.717964513 >>717965667
It's more when there's no nuance and one side is perfect and good cool rebels and the other is le evil empire instead of both sides being slightly shitty and flawed but also having good qualities.
Anonymous No.717964549 >>717970349
>>717961614
It never meant much, media can have multiple interpretations and ways of vieweing it. For all Kojima "war bad" he had The Boss talking about loyalty and devotion to the country so much I don't think it really mattered.
Anonymous No.717964553 >>717965239 >>717986957 >>717987250
>>717964309
Lots of /m/ media has politics for some reason. Guess it makes it more interesting of a story when you have something between the mech battles. Hell you could even use Armored Core as an example of what happens when Corporations become Government.
Anonymous No.717964576
>>717960198
>They are saying that, because of them having had this bad experience when the left was in power, when they get back into power they will refuse to use the leftists' tools against them
absolute zozzle
Anonymous No.717964583
>>717950298 (OP)
Modern domestic politics is trash. Cold War era politics is kino. It's not complicated.
Anonymous No.717964608
>>717964432
nukes have probably saved more lives in preventing all-out war between superpowers in favor of weaksauce proxy wars in tiny shithole countries.

also disarmament is an impossible dream and anyone who thinks that will happen ever is a retard who's geopolitical opinion can be instantly discarded.
Anonymous No.717964616
>>717962445
kek
today sharty was based
Anonymous No.717964679
>>717963753
That's a falseflagging tranny. You couldn't tell by the reddit image and the twitter meme format?
Anonymous No.717964842 >>717989965
>>717963453
it is a political weapon when it is huge as such. Poverty can be maintained for advantages to the already wealthy. Poverty could be gone if those who had the means to do so worked towards it, but most don't because it would not benefit them. Most of them works towards gaining even more means, making poverty even harsher. It is thus a weapon at the disposal of the wealthy since only they have the means. Also, you can live in a capitalist world and still have poverty not exercised that way, but because we have retarded neoliberals like you who likes to kiss ass to get more money it just creates a weapon for the ones richer than you and everyone else.
Anonymous No.717964873 >>717966380
>>717964493
That's why I mentioned dialogue and not just main conflict. Solid fought in the gulf war and raiden in liberia. You get entire history lessons on real world politics of the US, japan, costa rica, and che guevera in peacewalker tapes.
And it's silly to reduce the cold war in 3/peacewalker to a "background" with it's
Anonymous No.717964964
>>717954064
the only reason you get neetbux is because of "Leftist/Democrat" beliefs fyi
Anonymous No.717965017
>>717963763
NS kills her because he doesn't know any better. He's just doing his mission. That's what made him chud out later.
Anonymous No.717965180
>>717950298 (OP)
Stop pretending to be more retarded than you are faggot. They obviously mean being brow beaten by trannies not global wars.
Anonymous No.717965239 >>717965684 >>717965779 >>717985901
>>717964553
>dividing the earth up into questionable geopolitical blocs
or even better
>peaceful japan gets invaded and taken over by evil war loving gaijin villains
Anonymous No.717965315
>>717950429
>>717950298 (OP)
You had more than that yesterday when you posted this same excuse to dump pol garbage here. And the last time where I'm pretty sure your thread got moved to pol, and you abandoned it like the lumpengacha feeder you are.
Anonymous No.717965667 >>717965789 >>717967235
>>717964513
It's not even that. Using the TLOU2 example as it was mentioned earlier, progressive values are distributed among both sides of the conflict.

The problem is when said values (which are extremely recent and often untested ideas) get implemented and taken for granted amongst all characters as if it's representative of the reality we live, or should live in.

TLOU utterly fails to explore the fact Ellie is a lesbian despite so much of her interactions harping on that point. From an utilitarian standpoint, everyone is able to intuit that it would be potentially beneficial for her tribe if she had children because of her natural immunity to the virus. Especially given TLOU's setting, people would become maximally tribalistic.

But aside from a throwaway character like Seth being a punching bag for the "bigot sandwiches" line because he just so happens to not like homos for whatever reason, there isn't anything of substance to her identity or personal struggle. Her whole community simply accepts her because LGBT is so heckin' valid, even in a post-apocalyptic context.

What's so funny about all of this is that cutting up a 14 year old to make a vaccine is less of a daring subject to tackle in a video game story (and the games try their fucking HARDEST to make you ponder such a decision) than her just producing offspring eventually.
Anonymous No.717965684
>>717965239
>what if japan was still based and had a shogun?
Anonymous No.717965779 >>717985901
>>717965239
>peaceful japan gets invaded and taken over by evil war loving gaijin villains
Anonymous No.717965789 >>717968859
>>717965667
>TLOU utterly fails to explore the fact Ellie is a lesbian despite so much of her interactions harping on that point.
That's very true. They couldn't even have her try and bullshit a reason like "I don't want to have a kid just because of my genes". Hell then you open yourself up to discussing eugenics.
Anonymous No.717965891
>>717954775
I fucking wish bro then thing might actually get better
Anonymous No.717966045
>>717952505
based KOT poster
Anonymous No.717966257
>>717960331
That can't be, would anon lie on the Internet?
Anonymous No.717966380
>>717964873
All the things you mention are character backgrounds and could be swapped out for something completely irrelevant yet still coherent within the story and it wouldn't change the plot of the games at all. Getting highschool history lessons about x conflict and david hayter grunting and following with something along the lines of "yeah, that war was a mess" doesn't really make anyone question any of those conflicts individually.
Anonymous No.717966473
>MGS is the same as terminally online schizophrenia on twitter
okay
Anonymous No.717967037
>>717950298 (OP)
The Will of the boss is really stupid
Anonymous No.717967235 >>717975991
>>717965667
Where is this image from? That ranger design is really cool.
Anonymous No.717967240
politics isn't the issue, it's lack of discussion and open-mindedness. people want shit one way and they can kick rocks. waaaah this is the correct mindset! you aren't a writer lil bro put the fries in the bag.
Anonymous No.717967489 >>717967671
>>717952505
>Disco Elysium
Way to out yourself as a partisan sheep. Just regurgitate what you've read on /v/. Don't actually think for yourself.
Anonymous No.717967671
>>717967489
He is wrong about DE, as multiple people have pointed out, but everything else he says is more or less on point.
Anonymous No.717967904
>>717950365
>Historical and fantasy realistic political implementations good vs modern gaybow trannies wokism bad
Fixed it for you
Anonymous No.717967961 >>717968286
>>717953091
Its pre-woke liberal
Anonymous No.717967983 >>717968017
>>717950429
How come no one has been able to answer him?
Anonymous No.717968017
>>717967983
Because the question is retarded.
Anonymous No.717968086 >>717968334 >>717970173 >>717982959
>>717963092
>there's a part where kim goes on about how dangerous it would be for civilians to have access to firearms
Objective fact. Violent gun crime is directly linked to the amount of guns in circulation. Statistics are very clear on this.
Anonymous No.717968126 >>717968232 >>717968453 >>717968521 >>717986378
Is it really the problem of the politics being present, or just the terrible and hacky writing that modern games have?
Feels like political takes by toddlers with no nuances that learned politics from marvel comic books
Anonymous No.717968232
>>717968126
it's both, the shitty writing is an inherent part of leftie politics because their views are all retarded reddit takes and of course they can't be taken seriously when "the message" is just promoting trannies and blacks
Anonymous No.717968286 >>717977710
>>717967961
It has faggots in it no wonder (you) like it
Anonymous No.717968334 >>717968902
>>717968086
Objective fact. Violent gun crime is directly linked to a certain melanated demographic. Statistics are very clear on this.
Anonymous No.717968396 >>717968630
>>717950429
>So do you only consider a game to be political if [implication that was never made]?
No you disingenuous faggot.
>I just want 3 examples of political games if MGS and Bioshock don't count
Dragon Age: The Veilguard, Dustborn, and Concord. You can commit suicide now.
Anonymous No.717968453
>>717968126
Definitely both. I've said there's potential nuance in the discussion that could be had in a video game, they just don't want to do nuance and shove modern values in say a medieval society.
Anonymous No.717968521
>>717968126
Bit of both. Their presence can be extremely hamhanded and out of place and most of them are written poorly. One noticeable common point is how everyone but the designated "bad guy(s)" always act overly reverent or accepting of the political issue defended by the author. It can't be challenged, mocked, teased or contradicted in any way and everyone is overly apologetic if they do it on accident.
I pretty much consider modern videogames political writing the equivalent of "millenial writing".
Anonymous No.717968541
>>717952505
Disco Elysium clearly has some biases in its writing but it edges out in self-awareness enough that I would put it in the top section. The state of the game's setting is built off the back of a failed Communist revolution, after all.
Anonymous No.717968630 >>717968689 >>717968692 >>717968967 >>717971485
>>717968396
What was political about concord? I thought it was just an overwatch clone
Anonymous No.717968689
>>717968630
the character selection screen lists each character's pronouns
everyone is made ugly on purpose to fight "toxic beauty standards"
one of the characters was modeled based on a black tranny
there's some "nonbinary" character
Anonymous No.717968692
>>717968630
Character stories.
Anonymous No.717968746 >>717968790
>>717950298 (OP)
MALE TO FEMALE
Anonymous No.717968790
>>717968746
For some reason I can only hear it like the "ass to ass" line from requiem for a dream.
Anonymous No.717968859
>>717965789
To be fair bringing up a eugenics concern in the face of apocalypse would be such a high level Reddit pseud move in the face of a factual, demonstrably extinction-level alternative you'd probably get shot on the spot for giving out such raw cringe. It would be very hard to take seriously.
Anonymous No.717968862
>>717963763
If that's what you got from the ending of MGS3 you might legitimately be clinically retarded (it's literally the opposite).
Anonymous No.717968894
Games decades ago when having political undertones always spoke about real political issues. Not the gay ass shit that is the left vs right retardation we call "politics" today.
Anonymous No.717968902 >>717969125
>>717968334
Sub 80 IQ retard. Why isn't London a gun crime city, then?
Anonymous No.717968967
>>717968630
You have obese, brown trannies depicted as high-level bounty hunters. You tell me.
Anonymous No.717968984 >>717969063
>>717950353
>Pic
The difference is subtlety. There is no other.
Anonymous No.717968997 >>717969454 >>717969804 >>717973868 >>717986932
>>717950365
MGS1 isn't even political. It's just terrorists threatening to launch a nuke so they can try to fix genetic errors. I don't even know if I'd call MGS2 political either since it's just an AI that controls the world gaslighting Raiden into saving it.
Anonymous No.717969063
>>717968984
Then you must concede that contemporary politics intrinsically cannot be subtle and thus should not be represented, as they lower any media they are lent to.
Anonymous No.717969065 >>717969154 >>717969189
>>717952894
The fascism organ is your gut which literally communicates by farting at you dude, I don't know how you think we're not supposed to see through this or if you're just willfully ignorant.
Anonymous No.717969109
>>717953552
jej you win this one
Anonymous No.717969125 >>717969740
>>717968902
Because it is a knife-crime city
Anonymous No.717969154
>>717969065
The communist side of the mc isn't exactly some triumphant, all powerful chad either you know.
Anonymous No.717969170 >>718009910
>>717962294
>Senator Armstrong
He's not a pedo though
Anonymous No.717969175 >>717969230
>>717950429
>I just want 3 examples of political games if MGS and Bioshock don't count
Spec Ops: The Line
Cyberpunk 2077
Fallout (all of them)
Anonymous No.717969189
>>717969065
The founder of the DE setting's Communism killed himself just like Hitler did. The writers definitely have the most contempt for fascism but all the ideologies are treated like shit.
Anonymous No.717969230 >>717969247 >>717969280
>>717969175
>Spec Ops: The Line
"war bad" has to be the most baby's first political take of all gerber diaper products available.
Anonymous No.717969247 >>717969264
>>717969230
its true tho
Anonymous No.717969254
>>717964475
>outcompeted
Animal made poverty.
Anonymous No.717969264
>>717969247
That doesn't make it less shallow
Anonymous No.717969267
>>717950353
/thread
Anonymous No.717969280 >>717969321
>>717969230
It's poor as politcal commentary but it's interesting as a character's analysis into self delusion and perceived heroism.
Anonymous No.717969319 >>717969434
Politics in old games
>war is a complicated issue, conflict will always happen and the moral lines blur
Politics in new games
>black trans people are heckin' valid! and anyone who thinks otherwise is literally hitler
Anonymous No.717969321
>>717969280
Sure, I can give it that
Anonymous No.717969434
>>717969319
Exploration vs. proselytizing
Anonymous No.717969454 >>717987579 >>717988007 >>718001319
>>717950365
>>717968997
Pretty much
MGS1 is at its core, a character study about a man who hates his work as a pro soldier, how he ultimately is more than just a killer and how he can rise above a control his own destiny because he is his own and no one else.
The nukes subtext is just backdrop for this exploration. It was never meant to be a lesson or geopolitical study.
Anonymous No.717969537
Venom snake is a trans catgirl inside of BigBoss' body. aka the REAL bigboss. Kazutora is an INCEL biggot that hates Big Boss because xe is who xe really is. and you need to listen to tape 306 - [ Quiet's chica secret ] where you find out Quiet is chico
Anonymous No.717969681
>>717950298 (OP)
When people say they don't like politics in games they mean they don't like faggy californian preaching with all the subtlety of being bashed over the head with a brick. A lot of the most beloved vidya of all time have heavy political themes.
Anonymous No.717969740 >>717969774
>>717969125
>talking about gun crime
>retard brings up knives
lol
Anonymous No.717969774 >>717970636
>>717969740
We're talking about brown crime, my melanated friend.
Anonymous No.717969804
>>717968997
MGS2 wasn't political but it is now
Anonymous No.717969820
>>717950429
Game's story centering on its internal fictional political strife has no correlation to a game non-diegetically inserting contemporary real-world political statements and stances. Can you guess which one people don't like.
Anonymous No.717969967 >>717970082
Meanwhile, I don't mind this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMpuUUV2HeE
Anonymous No.717970039
>>717952505
>Harry of COURSE I'm not making fun of you for disagreeing with me. I'm the leader of an entire movement, do you think I have the time to just sit here and mock your awful preferences?
Anonymous No.717970045
>>717950298 (OP)
That's like calling Diehard and Terminators political. MGS has always been a knockoff 007 for men.
Anonymous No.717970082 >>717970256
>>717969967
Armstrong's political motivations are comically Darwinian, and probably intentionally so, so that you have an enemy to fight in the game and an excuse to kill them, it's hardly divisive.
Anonymous No.717970173 >>717980165
>>717968086
Groidsissy...
Anonymous No.717970241 >>717973065
>>717953618
The entire point of the MGS franchise post 3 is that Big Boss and Zero/Patriots cannot even agree on what the Boss' message even is. It is you who has no media literacy. Dumb faggot.
Anonymous No.717970256
>>717970082
It's political bullshit that I don't mind because it's so absurd even if it makes sense but is kept in the fictional world. Meanwhile, all this current inclusive bullshit, being PC, and whatever else is just tiring and annoying to deal with since it's obvious it's people trying to push agendas in an attempt to control how you think. I just wanna play games and have fun making things go boom.
Anonymous No.717970349 >>717971135
>>717964549
>Miyazaki say war bad
>WOOOOO ZERO GO NEOEWWWWWW PEW PEW SO COOL
I just think Japs are inherently hypocritical
Anonymous No.717970636 >>717980165
>>717969774
>reading is hard
Anonymous No.717971135
>>717970349
Their society is kind of hypocritical as a baseline. It contradicts itself all over the place.
Anonymous No.717971269 >>717978380
>>717952574
which disgaea is this?
Anonymous No.717971485 >>717983928
>>717968630
Bazz is a transsexual who learned to be a badass knife throwing mercenary from using a box cutter in a warehouse.
Anonymous No.717971553 >>717972113
>>717950298 (OP)
>heh MGS is political
But it's not propaganda. Is it left or right? Remember that Boss's message is "let the world be"
Anonymous No.717972113 >>717972486 >>717972578
>>717971553
All things considered, it’s probably even simpler than that. Call of duty was literal propaganda but people didn’t hate it because it wasn’t insufferable. That’s really the key. It’s why rhetoric is so important in any discussion. If the faggots making games lame and gay weren’t so repulsively insufferable, they wouldn’t have even a fraction of the pushback.
Anonymous No.717972340 >>717972934
>>717950298 (OP)
Anonymous No.717972486
>>717972113
its like legends of galactic heroes
they did everything they could to make the alliance look good, but since they didnt skimp on the empire, the empire looked better in every instance even with all the lore handicaps they got.
Anonymous No.717972578
>>717972113
all they had to do was not insult the customers and actually admit fault and apologize if they did.
but I guess expecting toddler level maturity from a corporation is too much to ask.
Anonymous No.717972930
>>717953075
>politics is in everything
feels familiar
Anonymous No.717972934 >>717973769
>>717972340
They started pushing the shit on the right to distract you from the shit on the left.
Anonymous No.717973065 >>717973135 >>717973250
>>717970241
>irrelevant shit to the conversation
>n-no u
Rightoids….will never beat the illiteracy allegations. Media or otherwise.
Anonymous No.717973135
>>717973065
Your response has absolutely 0 baring to what I had to say you mutt-bred faggot mossad cia shill agent cocksucker. kill yourself.
Anonymous No.717973145
>>717953618
Why would Kojima state Russia as an issue when Putin is equally a communist like he is? very strange. And he always seemed to take an anti American position on most wars, which generally favored Russia or their allies.
Anonymous No.717973250
>>717973065
Just a buzzword that allows you to present your bias as fact. Stop being a pseud.
Anonymous No.717973416
>>717953075
Galaga
Anonymous No.717973769 >>717973871
>>717972934
It's insane about how the people who went to Occupy Wall st back in 2012 really like to play revisionist history about the whole affair. You'll acknowledge progressive stack, but you won't ever mention that there were literally LGBT pride parades at the event. Therefore it makes you look stupid to even include some JP Morgan parade, because you're a bunch of fucking hypocrites that couldn't stand behind anything you did.
Anonymous No.717973850
>>717950353
Pic is more subtle than your average MGS game
Anonymous No.717973868
>>717968997
People are mincing with words
MGS1 has political themes; terrorism, officials being kidnapped, ransoms and world order matters.
So you have one group of people that think because that's a political theme then the game is political; literal smooth brain take.
You have the other group that understands it's a political theme in the story but the story has no bearing on real world politics so it isn't political.
Anonymous No.717973871 >>717974439
>>717973769
Anyone there can tell you the LGBT faggots were dissenters organised by the alphabet agencies to disrupt the movement because it's exactly what they fucking did. In hindsight they shouldve been shooed away.
Anonymous No.717974439 >>717974636 >>717981410
>>717973871
>Anyone there can tell you the LGBT faggots were dissenters organised by the alphabet agencies
If you have no evidence to support your claims then refrain from spewing bullshit. And please don't use Marxist agitprop extraordinaire Julian Assange's website to substantiate what they likely fabricated.
Anonymous No.717974636
>>717974439
friendly reminder that wikileaks, and assange, were only middlemen for leaks so that people could share information without corporate media covering it up.
Anonymous No.717975991
>>717967235
Looks like an AI upscale/rendition of Power Rangers in Space or space federation
Anonymous No.717977710
>>717968286
you can set them on fire, its not like cuck sawyer spawns in and calls you nazi
Anonymous No.717977797
vance has zero chance winning presidency against democrats
Anonymous No.717977908
>Anything that doesnt conform to my dogmatic beliefs = forced politics and propaganda
Remind me why we should listen to pol-niggers again? They are just like butthurt soccer moms and christfags screaming how harry potter was satanic and how violence in games was causing gang shootings. Also comically the very same kind of people that whined about "muh patriarchy" etc. in games.

Literally the same kind of deranged retards
Anonymous No.717978041
>>717950298 (OP)
>/v/ - Random Steam Users and Backloggd Reviews
Who fucking cares?
Anonymous No.717978053
>>717952043
Both, intentional dishonesty and retardation in one go
Anonymous No.717978109
>>717950298 (OP)
>role of weapons of mass destruction in war
>role of soldiers in society
>role of genes in personality
>role of memes in society
>role of the internet in society
This kind of shit is different than race baiting and taking stances like "open borders good just because"
Anonymous No.717978110 >>717978903 >>717980020
>>717952317
>people generally don't have a problem with the first two.
Well /pol/niggers arent people, as they howl and scream at the sight of a black person
Anonymous No.717978339 >>717979414 >>717979517
>making an argument that nuclear armament is bad is on the same level as calling half the country nazi fascists worthy of extermination
Daily reminder that leftfags can't tell the difference between these
Anonymous No.717978345
>>717953618
he never even said that, this is a fake quote
Anonymous No.717978364 >>717979437
>>717950298 (OP)
>>717950429
When people say, "I hate politics in video games/movies/books/etc" what they mean is, "I hate someone shoving their political opinions down my throat and telling me what my political opinions should be." People are fine with political themes or issues when they are presented more or less honestly and without obvious bias if they are ultimately left to make their own conclusions.

But you knew that you disingenuous cock sucking faggot.
Anonymous No.717978380
>>717971269
Never played any of them but I think that's the main guy from 4.
Anonymous No.717978903 >>717979471 >>717985803
>>717978110
Black characters in today's media aren't people. They're idealized token caricatures from a liberal fantasy.
Anonymous No.717979318 >>717979424 >>717998694
>>717950353
MGS2 literally ends with the Statue of Liberty being toppled over while an African man kills the President of the United States atop a giant robot with a katana.
Anonymous No.717979414
>>717978339
It's understandable they can barely cope with reality on a daily basis
Anonymous No.717979424 >>717979992 >>717986071
>>717979318
Metal gear solid 2 is also 25 years ahead of its time predicting AI being used by the government to mass censor the internet's worth of pointless trivial drama in echo chamber social media.
Which is what the game is actually about.
Anonymous No.717979437 >>717979548
>>717978364
>what they mean is, "I hate someone shoving their political opinions down my throat and telling me what my political opinions should be." People are fine with political themes or issues when they are presented more or less honestly and without obvious bias
And again polniggers arent people then as they have proven to kick and scream as soon as they see a black character or a girl that doesnt make their penis hard
Anonymous No.717979471 >>717979735
>>717978903
Just proving my point pol-nigger. You are the retarded soccer mlm and moralfag christian of 4chan in this regard
Anonymous No.717979517 >>717979673
>>717978339
>as calling half the country nazi fascists worthy of extermination
/pol/niggers do this daily, but which game does?
Oh right, none
Anonymous No.717979548 >>717979638 >>717979684
>>717979437
>a black character or a girl that doesnt make their penis hard
These are indicative of a game that will
>shoving their political opinions down my throat and telling me what my political opinions should be.
And it didn't used to be this way considering nobody has a problem with san andreas.
Anonymous No.717979638 >>717979726
>>717979548
>These are indicative of a game that will
>>shoving their political opinions down my throat and telling me what my political opinions should be.
Again, just proving my point that you are hysterical idiots akin to soccer moms that cant be taken seriously
Anonymous No.717979673
>>717979517
Wolfenstein II. The game and marketing drew parallels with what was the first Trump administration and advocated for violence against them.

Thanks for playing. I suspect you will now move the goalposts like your lot usually does.
Anonymous No.717979684 >>717979726
>>717979548
>And it didn't used to be this way considering nobody has a problem with san andreas.
Yeah, you got deranged. It literaally is a you problem.
Anonymous No.717979726 >>717979840
>>717979684
>>717979638
Never playing dustborn or forespoken.
Anonymous No.717979735 >>717979840
>>717979471
No one fucking liked trash like Velma or Ironheart, you stupid faggot. The dislike over over shitty new media goes well beyond some den of retards on 4chan, unless you want to give them that much power.
Anonymous No.717979840 >>717979942
>>717979735
>bad media exists
SHOCKER!
>>717979726
Ok, don't particularly care soccer-mom faggot. Wouldn't know about dustborn if not for you retards having autistic meltdowns over it
Anonymous No.717979929 >>717980020
>>717950298 (OP)
People don't hate games that have political themes. People hate writing that just bluntly smacks you over the head and tells you THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE OR YOU'RE BAD while the writers self insert beats up a strawman.
Anonymous No.717979942 >>717980078
>>717979840
>>bad media exists
And said media is born out of race swapped characters and other tokenism that no one enjoys, which was the point of the argument. Retard.
Anonymous No.717979992
>>717979424
>Plot that was generic by the 1960s after every sci-fi author took inspiration from the horrors of the Soviet Union and Germany
>Predicting anything
Anonymous No.717980020 >>717980149
>>717979929
See
>>717978110
Anonymous No.717980078 >>717980149 >>717980184 >>717980590
>>717979942
Yeah, never happened before. Like war machine in iron man was a thing in the early 90s.
Again, you changed and got deranged.
Anonymous No.717980079
>>717952875
The ever-present loli threads beg to differ
Anonymous No.717980148
>>717950353
Satire is still political.
Anonymous No.717980149
>>717980020
>>717980078
Do you have a quota or something? Your desperation is mounting.
sage No.717980165 >>717980564 >>717980910
>>717970636
Clearly >>717970173
Anonymous No.717980184
>>717980078
>Like war machine in iron man was a thing in the early 90s.
The original Black Panther was a White South African man
Anonymous No.717980535 >>717980970
>>717962367
I doubt you have good media literacy if you didn't understand >>717950353
Anonymous No.717980564
>>717980165
Have you noticed that leftists tend to peter out as the threads go on? It must go hand-on-hand with their porn consumption.
Anonymous No.717980590 >>717986120
>>717980078
Is this >>717964107 what you're attempting? Because you seem unhinged and dumb as fuck in a manner that doesn't seem very organic, even for a woketard.
Anonymous No.717980876
>>717952574
consider me titlitically homeless
Anonymous No.717980910 >>717981213
>>717980165
Non sequitur
Anonymous No.717980970
>>717980535
>media literacy
Lmao, this is as stupid a concept as emotional intelligence.
Anonymous No.717981108
>>717953075
The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno
Anonymous No.717981213 >>717981836
>>717980910
That's not what that means. His response was relevant, even if you're unable to address it.

If only leftists could learn how to exit an overwhelming conversation without the half-hearted attempts at making it look like a victory for themselves...
Anonymous No.717981229
the politics people aren't a fan of are stuff like Blizzard having a DEI character creation charts they have to use because of ESG scores, or feminists getting characters covered up because they appeal to the "male gaze". Things that are explicitly SJWs forcing their own ideology upon the video game industry from within and end up showing up in games are what people dislike, this is what people mean by "politics in games" as opposed to political games like MGSV

but the same thing is said every thread anyway, only brain damaged people don't understand this, or people that don't want to understand it
Anonymous No.717981410
>>717974439
You sound like a government/corpo shill. Eat shit and die you retarded faggot. Here's a whole FBI report indicating that they had plants in meetings across the fucking country whose sole purpose was to cause dissemination in the meetings over frivolous bullshit. LGBT shit included.

https://www.justiceonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/fbi-occupy-documents-1.pdf

I hope you get cancer.
Anonymous No.717981463 >>717981686
Half Life 2
>Textbook case of a police state
Metal Gear Solid
>The elites control everything
Last of Us Part Two
>THIS FUCKING BIGOT MISGENERED MY UNDERAGE TRANS MALE FRIEND IM GOING TO KICK HIS ASS WITH MY STRONG FEMALE MUSCLES

There are people (trannies) on this board who will tell you that all of the above belong in the same category.
Anonymous No.717981686
>>717981463
If only our media wasn't dominated by talentless ideologues who were suddenly thrust into the spotlight.
Anonymous No.717981836 >>717981976 >>717982959
>>717981213
That's exactly what it means. You might be too brown and tribalistic to understand it, unfortunately. Guns are the main component of gun violence and no amount of buzzwords and seething will change that fact.
Anonymous No.717981976
>>717981836
Facts don't care about your feelings, Tyrone.
Anonymous No.717982939
>>717961949
Her other mom is a ladder?
Anonymous No.717982948
>>717950353
I know this is bait but there's a good and bad way of handling politics in games. Disco Elysium is one of my favorite games of recent years and it explicitly tears apart both the left, right and center.
Anonymous No.717982959 >>717983141
>>717981836
No, a non-sequiter would be more like >>717968086, where this useless autist suddenly starts a tangent about gun violence.

Trying to shift the topic just because you're too cowardly to address the genetic aspects that do more to determine violent tendencies isn't helping you.
Anonymous No.717983141 >>717983424 >>717983598 >>718023482
>>717982959
Civilian access to guns, legal or otherwise is the main factor contributing to violent gun crime. More violent gun crime is objectively more dangerous ergo Kim is correct in Disco Elysium and seething about it by crying about niggers is delusional tribalistic behavior.
Anonymous No.717983424 >>717983481 >>717983830
>>717983141
Removing guns from circulation only means the same demographic committing the majority of gun crimes would use knives or the next best thing to commit crimes as evident everywhere where guns are banned now, my diaper-shitting friend.
Anonymous No.717983481 >>717983598
>>717983424
I'd rather run away from a knife-wielding schizo than one with a gun.
Anonymous No.717983598 >>717984320
>>717983141
Your autism is debilitating. This is reading less like a coherent argument and more like a public exercise in self-affirmation. Repeating your irrelevant, invalid, and unrealistic position is all it seems you can do.
>>717983481
>knife or gun, I'm running away
Ah, so cowardice is the root of your slave-like opinion on the matter. You want those laws because you don't trust YOURSELF.
Anonymous No.717983686
As usual the reason the entire argument exists is because people think in true/false absolutism rather than in degrees of nuance. Boolean vs float.

For example: >>717953075
>i will argue with any of you to prove that politics is in everything
Why does he phrase it like that? Doesn't it make more sense to say that some games have more politics than others?

You could look at it like this: some games have a politics value of 0.5742 and others have a politics value of 0.000075
And this is where we come up against the limits of the english language where some people will say:
Yes, the game with a value of 0.000075 has politics in it, because the value is greater than 0.
No, the game with a value of 0.000075 obviously doesn't have politics in it because it's so insignificant. (one of the developers is half-russian)
Anonymous No.717983801
>>717963092
> there's a part where kim goes on about how dangerous it would be for civilians to have access to firearms and damn near does a camera take and says something like well it's a good thing we don't live in a world like that. no option for rebuttal or anything
Anon...
The rebuttal is the entire tribunal.
You literally have 3 mercenaries holding 10 people hostage because they're literally better equipped than anyone else, including you, a law enforcer.
You literally have to distract one guy for an absurd amount of time just to get 1 shot (2 with really good hand/eye coordination) on him because your pistol is a piece of shit, and you still end up getting shot in the leg for it and get barely saved by providence.
Anonymous No.717983830 >>717983978 >>717984785
>>717983424
Knives are less dangerous than guns, so a society with knife wielding criminals is less dangerous than a society with gun toting criminals.
Anonymous No.717983928
>>717971485
Inspirational.
Anonymous No.717983978 >>717984320
>>717983830
But knives kill people too, when are we banning those so we never have to address the real problem?
Anonymous No.717983983
>>717952505
Why are you making shit up to support your own biased views?
Anonymous No.717984309
>>717956769
Seems like it's you who didn't play the game, the game ends with you confronting a Leninist commie who has LITERAL brain damage. Like, he's absolutely demented and yet he's still a communist loyalist that barely accepts Harry if you went the communist route. You're seeing only what you want to see.
Anonymous No.717984320 >>717984785
>>717983598
>Ah, so cowardice is the root of your slave-like opinion on the matter. You want those laws because you don't trust YOURSELF.
Your logic and reasoning has failed and you're trying to appeal to fucking honor? What are you a muslim or something? A real life nigga moment here.

>>717983978
>But knives kill people too, when are we banning those so we never have to address the real problem?
Knives have practical applications outside of recreation. Your ability to think only in such absurd absolutes tells of your mental retardation.
Anonymous No.717984413
>>717952505
i find it funny how you didnt list mankind divided, which is fair because even though i love that game the writing is kinda trash. the characters arent as memorable as in the original or hr or even iw, the pacing is terrible and the politics are so on-the-nose to be distracting.

deus ex used to be a franchise about the future. suddenly its about black lives matter. what a downgrade. and no amount of copium about "muh themes about mass media manipulation" will make the writing good.
Anonymous No.717984545 >>717986116
>>717963763
Jesus Christ I share a board with people like this
Did you skip every cutscene?
Anonymous No.717984785 >>717985464 >>717988090
>>717983830
>knives are less dangerous than guns
That is *absolutely* not true. Is everyone on /v/ a useless shut-in? If someone comes at me with a knife and avoidance wasn't an option, then out comes the gun.
>le 20-yard rule
Don't care, I go down fighting regardless.
>>717984320
>your logic has failed
Says the one arguing with flawed logic in the first place.
>you're trying to appeal to fucking honor
>muh muslooms
Says the honorless one who is so rootless and cowardly that he can only tie these universal concepts to sandniggers.
>decidedly little opinion of knives compared to guns
We can tell this is your political pet issue, your entire approach betrays this. You haven't convinced anyone.
Anonymous No.717985464 >>717986475
>>717984785
You realize that only the most extreme of the extreme want guns entirely banned, right? You can still get a gun in Japan, for example, with the proper permits. Or Australia, which made guns illegal, but has exemptions for people living in areas where they could use firearms for protection and even sports exemptions. Notably the gun crime in these countries is practically non-existent.
Anonymous No.717985803 >>717986120
>>717978903
>Black characters in today's media aren't people.
I mean, /pol/fags have gotten mad about black people for well over a decade. When does it stop being just 'today's media'.
Anonymous No.717985832
>>717964309
yoshitaka amano is a literal right-winger
Anonymous No.717985901 >>717990230
>>717965239
>>717965779
>do the shit your invaders did
>invaders come back to kick your shit in and shadow control your government for over a century
>now the invaders get mad that you aren't doing things they told you not to do
Easy to see why they hate burgers.
They don't even hate brits considering the Sherlock Holmes fetish.
Anonymous No.717986018
>>717950353
/thread
Anonymous No.717986071 >>718010336 >>718010430
>>717979424
>woah it predicted shit everyone was predicting
If you want actual, cold hard futuresight from the Japs, you go to Sword Art Online.
Anonymous No.717986116
>>717984545
Did Kojima learn...the Blade?
Anonymous No.717986120 >>717986475
>>717985803
Why are you attempting to restart the same exact argument? See >>717980590
Anonymous No.717986269 >>718012356
>>717951109
>Will child molestation victims ever figure out why no one complains about politics in games like MGS1-5?
That's mostly because the majority of people who play the MGS games don't really pay attention to them and skip cutscenes.
Half the American fans I've talked to "joined the military" due to MGS.
From practically the day it released people treated MGS1's anti-nuke message as 'cute and preachy', not really thinking anything of it despite the game's final moments lingering on said message.
People still act like MGS2 is a game that is difficult to get purely because they can't be bothered to pay attention to the scenes that tell you, directly, the point of the game.
MGS3 is just "cool military game" all while it's talking about a world without borders and how nationalism warps perspective and makes people view their country as more important than the people they love.
MGS4 has a man literally get mindfucked by military conditioning until he can no longer live a normal life and robocops himself. And people join the military because of this, it's as ironic as people who join the military thanks to Full Metal Jacket.

And most obviously, Peace Walker and MGSV are anti-war, anti-PMC games, where you run a war profiteering PMC.
Anonymous No.717986378 >>717986627
>>717968126
What's the essence of leftie politics?
>Tolerate EVERYTHING?
>White people EVIL?
It's just boring fucking garbage and a non indoctrinated 12 year old could argue against these gaps in logic
Anonymous No.717986475 >>717986660 >>717986834
>>717986120
Engagement bait is all he/it has.
>>717985464
The level of gun crime has more to do with demographics. Japan and Australia don't have as many feral nogs harassing the populace as the US, for example.
Anonymous No.717986626
>>717950298 (OP)
Politic (good)
>something usually held completely in universe of [media]
>interesting, naturally unfolds with the story and doesn't look like weird quirk chungus references a year in the future when the winds shift
>references to real life politic is very light handed
Politic (bad)
>James Sunderland from silent hill 2 (second entry in the silent hill series) sees pyramid man raping the nurse and spends the rest of the game fighting the patriarchy
>any political commentary is as hamfisted as a political cartoonist labeling everything in their panels so there's absolutely no ambiguity in what they're getting out
>locks any forum the game is hosted on because "yall can't behave. Btw geralt DOES say Trans rights btw."
>unlikeable nigger mc
Hope this helps
Anonymous No.717986627
>>717986378
>calling other people indoctrinated
>when he has been trained to view anything less than a desire for constant war and benefitting the corporations more than the people as bad
Anonymous No.717986646
>>717950353
OP destroyed, as usual
Anonymous No.717986660
>>717986475
But Australia did have a large amount of gun crime until they banned guns, which has since brought it to rates of gun crime under 1/10th of what the US has per capita, for example.
Anonymous No.717986765
>>717953075
The Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno
Anonymous No.717986834 >>717987257 >>717988131 >>717990348 >>717990615 >>717990991
>>717986475
Anonymous No.717986932 >>717986958 >>718008623
>>717968997
>MGS1 isn't even political.
It's LITERALLY a criticism of US policies post-vietnam. Zoomies need to stop watching ecelebs and read some history books.
Anonymous No.717986957
>>717964553
/m/ is full of people extrapolating themes they think they see, only to be contradicted half the time by the creator’s own shitty beliefs
Anonymous No.717986958
>>717986932
They probably think the Gulf War was some fictional thing that happened in the MGS universe.
Anonymous No.717987109
>>717953075
you're a disingenuous faggot and you know it. Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.717987143
>>717950298 (OP)
"Bombing japan = bad" isnt that much of a message
Anonymous No.717987250
>>717964553
It has to do with the scale of mecha. They're supposed to be the pinnacle of warfare technology in their settings and the MCs are piloting custom variants using new technology. You can go the super robot route of lol our scientists somehow came up with a perpetual energy machine by discovering some bullshit energy source that only we know how to work with or if you want to have a believable setting it kind of has to be backed by the R&D of a big ass country or organization.
Anonymous No.717987257 >>717987479 >>717987512
>>717986834
The US would be on par and safer than places like switzerland if it werent for our brown population despite the fact that you can just find bullets in any random fridge you open here.
Anonymous No.717987479 >>717988030
>>717987257
Switzerland, a country with very strict gun control and mandatory enlistment. Right.
Anonymous No.717987512 >>717988030
>>717987257
>years of calling Switzerland a lawless browntown filled to the brim with rapegangs
>now it's super safe because it doesn't have brown people
Anonymous No.717987554
>>717950365
Mortal Kombat 11 has politics?
Anonymous No.717987579
>>717969454
>The nukes subtext
The literal last moments the main story ends on retard
https://youtu.be/uaIUpXZnqPU?t=20788
Anonymous No.717987837 >>717987869 >>717989412
>>717950429
I think there's something to be said about MGS and Bioshock vs Whatever is going on nowadays

They were very blunt with their themes but it didn't feel like they were shoving it in your face, and it helped that everything surrounding those themes was also very well written/interesting for the most part

The issue with writing nowadays is that it feels obnoxiously self conscious about itself to where instead of just having themes surrounding a plot they are trying very very very hard to make the message front and center and not putting anywhere near as much work to anything surrounding said message

Like writing nowadays focuses too much on deconstructing and not enough time on constructing. The only reason Rapture's fall is captivating, even for Ayn Rand types, is because it focuses enough time on making Rapture uniquely captivating.

I think something like TLOU2 is a good example of this, the game tries very hard to make you feel bad about Ellie's actions, and by proxy Joel's, but it completely fails in trying to humanize the other side or making us attached to them. So the moral message is there, front and center, the game hits you over the head with it, but it falls flat because the only thing that keeps you going is your attachment to a character from the 1st game (sick ass gameplay also helps)
Anonymous No.717987869 >>717988394
>>717987837
I feel like Bioshock overtly calls Ayn Rand followers retarded, as it should.
Anonymous No.717988007 >>717988058 >>718001319
>>717969454
That cutscene is just amazing. The guy who voices Fox is phenomenal in it
Anonymous No.717988030
>>717987512
>>years of calling Switzerland a lawless browntown filled to the brim with rapegangs
i never did this
>>now it's super safe because it doesn't have brown people
I also never said this. The context is in relation to guns and the availability to restriction differences that the US/Euro countries have.
>>717987479
if you take away niggers and spics, gun crime is virtually non existent here. But, we do have'em so we are cursed with having 8 gorillion "mass shootings" when the absolute majority of them are nigs lighting up gas stations, birthday parties, and doing drive bys in the neighborhood.
Anonymous No.717988058 >>717988326
>>717988007
Jeremy Blaustein's delusions of grandeur aside, he at least knew how to direct and get good performances out of the talent.
Anonymous No.717988090
>>717984785
>That is *absolutely* not true. Is everyone on /v/ a useless shut-in? If
If knives are as dangerous as guns why don't militaries around the world equip their infantry with knives? It would be a lot cheaper. Bullets are expensive.
Anonymous No.717988128 >>717989286
>>717950298 (OP)
Politics in Rance games?
Anonymous No.717988131 >>717988191 >>717990615 >>718010463
>>717986834
ausfag here, our chart shows the same decline as all non-american countrys that kept their guns, gun control did nothing unironically. There's a reason we're compared to the USA and no one else in these graphs
>years of calling Switzerland a lawless browntown filled to the brim with rapegangs
wtf are you talking about
did you mean sweden? are you from plebbit or what because no one here would get these mixed two mixed up like that
Anonymous No.717988191
>>717988131
>these mixed two mixed up like that
heh
these two mixed up like that*
Anonymous No.717988226
>>717950298 (OP)
Yeah man international geopolitics involving weapons of mass destruction and shadow cabals is absolutely the same as being able to teach children buttsex you very smarty sharty. Fpbp
Anonymous No.717988326 >>718001319
>>717988058
That Grey Fox performance is amazing. Considering all the shit he went through on the years the voice is spot on imo. That
>But soon... Soon.. It will finally end
Just hits all the right spots for me
Anonymous No.717988394 >>718024391
>>717987869
I don't disagree, but like I said I think the game also tries very hard in every other aspect of its story, world building, characters, etc, so even those types can look the other way

Here's another example: Cyberpunk is also very blunt about its criticisms of unchecked capitalism and where it might lead us, but I don't think most pro capitalism types care or feel particularly offended by its overt messaging because everything else surrounding that message is good enough to sell us the world of Cyberpunk and its characters

Because, despite Cyberpunk's message being very blunt, it's also very confident about the world of cyberpunk and the stories in said world, and let that be the focus rather than the message itself
Anonymous No.717988823
>>717959130
Bottom feels extremely artificial, especially when paired with other statements in the game, you can tell it was forced there. I don't know anything about the top game, so I can't tell whether that statement makes sense context wise for that character to hold or if it's just another localization fanfic
Anonymous No.717989286
why is everyone arguing gun politics
>>717988128
people like to point to him joining a revolution as being political, but he only joins so he can get with woman. TADA also has a blog where its full of all your typical far-right garble, supported some cygames neet that ran for tokyo gov, complains about female ceos. rance is a self insert, minus the rape.
Anonymous No.717989410
>>717952505
>Disco Elysium,
Did not play the game. Did not even breathe in the same room as the game.
Anonymous No.717989412 >>717998140 >>718009668 >>718024781
>>717987837
Only piece of modern nerd media that made "feel" for the other side was Attack on Titan with its constant circle of revenge theme.
Anonymous No.717989530
>>717963763
>She's the antagonist. You kill her because her ideas are evil.
I share a board with creatures like you.
Anonymous No.717989792
>>717950298 (OP)
the keyword is contemporary
Anonymous No.717989840
>>717953075
>le everything is political
>cavemen banging rocks together is political
Anonymous No.717989965 >>717993497
>>717964842
Poverty is the most natural thing. It is quite literally the starting point of economy. You're not claiming that at the start of economy, because of universal poverty, there was some elite that was impoverished because everyone was, but actually wasn't, and they maintained their own massive but simultaneously nonexistent wealth by maintaining their own poverty.
Anonymous No.717989986
>>717950298 (OP)
retarded troglodyte kys
Anonymous No.717990129
>>717964171
>hey guys lets only care about ww2 war crimes and only the ones on the loser side and nothing but that no matter what else happened in the past or present or will happen in the future
when obama did it he got awarded a peace nobel prize and everyone clapped
Anonymous No.717990230
>>717985901
only retards like americans or think permanent military occupation is a good thing
Anonymous No.717990348 >>717990615
>>717986834
>australia fell by 1.5 points after laws
>US fell by 4 points despite no laws
What am uspposed to see here
Anonymous No.717990614
>>717950365
>Deus Ex
>Fallout
>No politics
Are you legitimately fucking retarded?
Anonymous No.717990615
>>717986834
>>717988131
>>717990348
yeah wtf is that chart lmao
Anonymous No.717990854
>>717960845
The point is that good games can present characters with different beliefs and let the person playing decide who they agree with. Dogshit games ram some idea down your throat and tell you that you are le very bad man if you don't agree. Most classic games have a villain many or even most people can relate to and see their point.
Anonymous No.717990991 >>717997427
>>717986834
Australia is an island continent so enacting and enforcing gun control is much easier there. The US is flanked to the north and south by two different countries. To the south you've got fucking Mexico which is home to the cartels. The only thing strict gun control laws would do is increase the market for illegal gun trafficking.
Anonymous No.717991091
>>717950429
I knew nothing about trannies until the trannies suddenly started screeching. Prior to that, the propaganda was the gender reassignment worked. Thank god the gays couldn't shut up at least in that respect, but they can shut the fuck up now. I don't need to discover new non-binaries.
Anonymous No.717991273
>>717950429
I have yet to see any of you loons say what party those games are demanding you vote for.
Anonymous No.717993497
>>717989965
You can impede people to get out of that starting point. That's what weaponizing means. Poverty is universal but not everyone is equal. Capital was supposed to bring a mean to get anything through a universal conduit yet because some people are more greedy than others, you will end up with poverty being maintained. It is maybe natural order, but it doesn't bar it from being a weapon used against others so you can have even more riches and status. If you ask me, if you can manage to make it so capital by artificially inflating it and so it fails you unless you are super duper mega rich, then capital is worthless. That's how it is maintained on poor people so they remain poor. They don't claim to be poor, they claim they can't get out of being poor. Blame them for their own situation if you want, but that's massive generalization.
Anonymous No.717994040
>>717950298 (OP)
Like the first nigga you meet in solid is the """DARPA Chief""" As a kid I didn't have the internet and had to ask my dad what darpa meant. No one should be surprised it's political.
Anonymous No.717995093 >>717995246
>>717951109
short answer: double standards

im a big MGS fan, i was more into it before but i still like the series

and yet i cannot fucking stand the insufferable dick sucking Kojimbo did for che guevara in Peace Walker, i come from a country ruined by commies, it was unbearable to hear

and yet i never hear a peep about it from you fuckers, you somehow convinced yourself having a black woman in a video game is communism, but idolizing a communist isnt, fuck you all

either you dont know what communism is or you have double fucking standards
Anonymous No.717995246 >>717995484 >>718025271
>>717995093
It sure was heroic of Che Guevara to sentence people to death for not collectivizing their property.
Anonymous No.717995484 >>717995805
>>717995246
it was for the greater good, if you disagree, 8 months of forced hard labor might change your mind
Anonymous No.717995805
>>717995484
To be fair, surface level idolization of people that don't deserve and the glorification of violence has been one of MGS' themes since this series was just MG1 and 2 on the MSX. I still think Peace Walker lays it on way too thick.
Anonymous No.717996372
>>717950298 (OP)
V was so fucking milquetoast lmao, besides some references to colonialism, some lite references to nukes, PMCs, and child soldiers it was nothing the KINO trailers shilled it to be
Anonymous No.717996902 >>717999403
Everyone is being disingenuous when it comes to politics in video games.
The thing people complain about are identity politics.
But people who complain about politics in video games are too cowardly to say exactly what they mean and people acting smug about it are intentionally pretending that they don't know what the first group is talking about specifically.
Middle finger.
Anonymous No.717997427
>>717990991
>The only thing strict gun control laws would do is increase the market for illegal gun trafficking.
Sure. That's why European countries that border post soviet states are filled with illegal firearms. Oh wait...
Anonymous No.717997681
>>717950298 (OP)
I personally just think that adding anything that comes from the internet to your game is bad.
Internet lingo, internet politics, internet memes. all garbage that don't belong in the writing OR GRAPHICS of a video game.
No one knows what the fuck a bipoc allaband is.
Anonymous No.717998140 >>718005581
>>717989412
kek
Anonymous No.717998694
>>717979318
>an African man
Oh, so white Africans are Africans when it's convenient, huh?
Anonymous No.717999223
>>717950298 (OP)
>shit opinion
>MGSV player
shouldn't you be walking in Death Stranding and buying NFTs instead of posting here?
Anonymous No.717999370
>>717950298 (OP)
>METAL GEAR SOLID V: THE
Anonymous No.717999403
>>717996902
To be fair, the former group has far more to lose because deranged underages troons.
Anonymous No.718001104 >>718001284
>>717952505
Here's a better classification:
Good vidya politics:
>fictional situation that fits the setting and serves the purposes of the plot
Bad vidya politics:
>contemporary American mumbo-jumbo
>or a blatant parallel thereof
Anonymous No.718001284 >>718001565
>>718001104
>contemporary American mumbo-jumbo
You mean like Metal Gear Solid?
Anonymous No.718001319
>>717969454
>>717988007
>>717988326
The way he delivers the "...a cornered FOX is more DANGEROUS than a JACKAL!" line is my personal favorite. Absolutely perfect delivery.
Anonymous No.718001565 >>718002519
>>718001284
No, MGS is 110% Japanese-brained global politics.
Anonymous No.718001861
>politiks, metal gear
>war bad
>politiks, dragon age: veilguard
>so I misgendered my captain and had to do 15 pushups
>by the way let me stop this plot moment to explain that I now go by they/them
Anonymous No.718001878
>>717950429
I really want to give you a test
Anonymous No.718002519 >>718003686
>>718001565
NUKES BAD is a fairly global political stance even if the sole nuked nation is more passionate about it
and it isn't fictional
Anonymous No.718003686
>>718002519
naw, man, the tapes in PW are word for word typical Japanese anti-nuke spiel
Anonymous No.718003823
>>717950298 (OP)
I hate politics irl, in vidya and, especially, if this is leftard "politics".
Anonymous No.718005581
>>717998140
I mean, for what anime goes, i think Reiner's whole PTSD thing was well done.
Anonymous No.718006762 >>718009317
>>717950298 (OP)
>>717950429
political theme and political messaging ARE NOT THE SAME THING YOU RETARDED FAGGOTS
MGS is a politically themed game without faggy political pandering or trying to shove an ideology down your fucking throat
BUT YOU ARE TOO FUCKING RETARDED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU FUCKING GORILLA FAGGOTS
Anonymous No.718008623
>>717986932
>It's LITERALLY a criticism of US policies post-vietnam.
Cute opinion, did a Youtuber give it to you?
Anonymous No.718009317 >>718009685
>>718006762
Does Call of Duty contain political messaging?
Anonymous No.718009476
>>717950353
Fpbp
Anonymous No.718009634 >>718012602
>>717950298 (OP)
Identity politics ("idpol") is a tool deployed by the ruling classes ("Capital") to divide the lower classes and deprive them from developing class consciousness.
It happened in the wake of Occupy Wall Street.

Idpol is NOT politics. It is a bastardization and disfigurement of politics. It is a corruption and de-railment of politics.
Idpol serves no outcome or argument or discussion save for the destruction of organised or individual resistance, both intellectual and physical, against the tyrannical and non-stop rape by Capital of human beings and their norms, ways of living, and sources of happiness; not by foundational intent, but by outcome of intent.
All capital cares about is the acquistion of money. Corporations (firstly by way of business) and governments (by way of economic encapture) are the whores that Capital kidnaps and pimps out in order to acquire more capital.

Capital spares NOTHING from being destroyed by itself. Notions of nation, history, race, creed, demographics, crime, law, religion, culture, decency, right, wrong, immorality, morality, should, shouldn't -- Capital does NOT CARE!
All Capital cares about is an invisible line going up on a chart in an office in some bank somewhere.

Capital does not care that Capital replaces you with foreigners and destroys your culture, history, demographics, and way of life. Capital is arranging for it to happen because Capital wants infinite growth and predictable growth.
There is NO LINE that Capital will not cross if it means that Capital can be engorged and enlarged.
In the eyes of Capital there is nothing more important than the acquisition of more money --- this is all that matters, and it is an extremity, an extreme in our society that we must address if we want to return to peacable living.

I am not a Communist nor am I opposed to capitalism fundamentally -- I am describing the politics of the moment, merely.
Our institutions & society has lost sight of what matters because of Capital.
Anonymous No.718009668
>>717989412
True
Anonymous No.718009685
>>718009317
havent played CoD past original MW3 so i have no fucking clue
but the old ones were politically themed
Anonymous No.718009910
>>717969170
He was a child trafficker though. You think he's better because instead of raping their bodies he raped their minds? Took out their brains and subjected them to digitally simulated atrocities to turn them into killing machines? A diddler is actually less evil.
Anonymous No.718010262
>>717951612
Almost as if wokeism is anti-human
Anonymous No.718010336
>>717986071
SAO kinda gets bonkers in later parts
>So yeah, we were able to scientifically identify the human soul on an artificial level
>This allowed us to manufacture artificial souls and give them human consciousness using hardware instead of a brain
>We tried copying existing human souls but they inevitably killed themselves when they realized they were fake
>So our solution was to copy the souls of newborn babies and raise them in an AI simulation that they think is the real world
Anonymous No.718010430 >>718011816
>>717986071
This bait deserved more bites, honestly.
Anonymous No.718010463
>>717988131
Knife crimes and arsons increased proportionally
Anonymous No.718011816 >>718012037
>>718010430
I was being completely serious actually.
>SAO movie came out in 2017
>in it, there is full, mass produced, augmented reality devices
>more popular than fulldive VR (just wait)
>has a literal vtuber in it, a few years before the vtuber boom
>not just any vtuber, but a wholly AI generated one built from LLMs based on SAO footage and brain scans of former players
Honestly, I wouldn't be too surprised if its absurd IRL MMO idea ends up being a real thing a decade from now given how Pokemon Go turned out just like it only a bit under a year prior.
Anonymous No.718012037 >>718012253
>>718011816
All it did was take a bunch of ideas .hack came up with and present them in a more straight-forward format. Wasn't even the first to do that.
Anonymous No.718012253
>>718012037
>All it did was take a bunch of ideas .hack came up with and present them in a more straight-forward format.
SAO predates .hack by a few months, and none of their concepts were all that original since the same year, in the exact same season no less, Detective Conan also did a movie about kids trapped in a game (a death game, run by an evolving AI).
The .hack comparisons to SAO are always immensely flawed for the singular reason that the two aren't actually all that similar.
Anonymous No.718012356 >>718012682
>>717986269
The fact that there are people willing to "serve" and they say they are a fan of MGS and that they get the message is an irony that cannot be created by anybody other than God himself.
Anonymous No.718012598
>>717953618
You know Big Boss isn't the good guy, right
Anonymous No.718012602
>>718009634
>class consciousness
lmao, good luck with that in multicultural, multiracial shithole like USA. you guys are so easy to divide (remember the saying divide et impera), it took one meth nigger getting killed by a cop to almost destroy whole nation in a civil war now imagine what a farm of bots in russia or china can achieve across social networks.
Anonymous No.718012682 >>718012951
>>718012356
hence why when occidental media covers anything political wokeism rose to be so prominent it's unignorable, it's point can't be missed, hence why there's complaints about muh politics in muh gaming, when people dumb enough to miss not only subtext but the actual text are finally made notice something they sperg out.
Anonymous No.718012728
>>717950429
Midwit god tier post
Anonymous No.718012832
>>717953075
Fucking Tetris, go on, fight me, bitch.
Anonymous No.718012951 >>718014101
>>718012682
I read your reply 3 times. Maybe reformulate it? I'm not being smug its genuinely hard to understand your point. In my opinion the enshitification of games has nothing to do with politics but everything to do with activism, and not even the usual activism, but online activism. I genuinely think that a person who actually has a passion for liberalism can do a project that somebody could enjoy just like how a conservative person can do as well. Unfortunately we have 2 sides with braindead retards tossing turds at each other.
Anonymous No.718012987
>>717964475
Thats not poverty retard, that is not getting food on time
Anonymous No.718013390
>>717952505
DE does not act like that
>rdr2
oh you're one of those retarded faggots.
Anonymous No.718013442
>>717953169
For being lame, destructive (the revolution), greedy (the workers of one location want to take over the entire company for themselves), corrupt (maΓ±ana and the union chief), violent (the lynchers), and so fucking retarded they're incapable of thinking about the consequences of their actions (the revolution and the strike).
Anonymous No.718013507
>>717961416
That's not a fascist, that's a traditionalist.
Anonymous No.718014101
>>718012951
>people willing to "serve" and they say they are a fan of MGS and that they get the message is an irony
They missed the entire point of MGS, both text and subtext, right?

That's my point, that dopes that miss anything and everything going on beyond cool things happening onscreen created the necessity for "woke" or as you say activists.

When there's people oblivious to miss all subtext and text it creates the necessity to make it as hacky and on the nose as possible, which created the west's writing style when it's "political".

Hence why it's an issue, to make everyone, even oblivious glue eating retards understand exactly what it's about it has to be as hacky and on the nose as possible.

Muh "politics in gayming" stems from retards who missed everything that wasn't hammering them over the head with it, validating it's necessity to the snarky libs who make this shit.
Anonymous No.718014432 >>718015095
>>717963250
Poors need to exist so society can function. Who'd clean the toilets if the polish got equal pay?
Anonymous No.718014670 >>718020779
>>717951109
No. Never. This is why "X was always woke" exists.
Anonymous No.718015095 >>718015270
>>718014432
you can always clean your own toilet
Anonymous No.718015270 >>718016381
>>718015095
>touching poop
Saar, no way. Anyway, poverty needs to exist so poor people are forced to do the awful jobs nobody would actually do.
Anonymous No.718016381 >>718016509
>>718015270
dogshit narrow-minded take
>I literally can't take care of my own domicile
you deserve your squalor
Anonymous No.718016509 >>718016680
>>718016381
I can guarantee I live far better off than you if you're a commie complaining about wealth inequality.
Anonymous No.718016680 >>718016947
>>718016509
You literally actually genuinely don't have to be a gommunist to care if people have the means to make it day-to-day. Sounds like you're just fucking soulless LMAO
Anonymous No.718016947 >>718017275
>>718016680
>pretending to care about total strangers' wellbeing
Why? You're not on plebbit farming updoots.
Anonymous No.718017275 >>718017426
>>718016947
You are full retard right now.
Anonymous No.718017426
>>718017275
You're irrational.
Anonymous No.718019905 >>718020080
The Politics of Katamari Damacy
Anonymous No.718020080 >>718020186
>>718019905
umm, a heckin monarchy?!
a more advanced race invading earth to roll everything into a ball and loot it back home to space? COLONIALISM!
Anonymous No.718020186
>>718020080
It's for a grander purpose! This is, uh... our Manifest Destiny!
Anonymous No.718020668
>>717952574
This is one of the few Instances /v/ is truly centrist.
Flat is Justice
Medium Is Premium
Oppai is truth.
Every size makes our wood rise.
Through dick, unity.
Anonymous No.718020779
>>718014670
>I'm non binary
>what does that mean?
>it means I don't feel like a man or a woman
>if you're not a man or a woman, what are you?
This is where they went wrong in their fantasy
This is not the question you would ask in this situation
The real question, that you would automatically ask when confronted with this, is
>well what are you though?
Because you actually *are* one or the other, no matter what you "feel"
But to them what they "feel" is reality, so it saying it "feels" like something, means it automatically "is" something, but to normal non-insane people this isn't true, because it's actually not true
Anonymous No.718021098
>>717953075
Tell me you are a commie without telling me you are a commie.
These faggots are so annoying. The difference is that regular people deal with political stuff so they can keep living their life like they want commies don't have a life to keep living or rather their entire identity is their political beliefs. They are the vegans of politics obnoxious to the core and convinced they are morally superior to everyone.
Anonymous No.718023482 >>718024005
>>717983141
They would just use knives or beat old people with their fists. It's not access to weaponry that makes a criminal, it's the complete disregard of the well being of the one being robbed. But a single murderer can off a hundred people with an AK and enough mags. I doubt anyone with a knife or even a sword couldn't be over powered by 10 or more people
Anonymous No.718024005
>>718023482
Even outside of that, it's pretty hard to kill people by stabbing them, especially if you're trying to kill multiple people.
Anonymous No.718024391
>>717988394
Pro Capitalists are just anti commies. Nobody but hardcore soulless corpos would agree NestlΓ© should own all the water in the world if they have the means to achieve itor that you can do omega jew legal shenanigans and copyright Krebs Cycle so all mammals have to pay royalties to you to produce ATP.
There's a difference between free market and letting captain planet villains left unchecked.
Anonymous No.718024729 >>718024835
once again...
Anonymous No.718024781
>>717989412
The theme is that both sides were proven right in that the other side had it coming.
Pain was absolutely right.
MAD scenario is the only way to prevent wars. If every time you punched or hurt another man both you, him and everyone in a 1 kilometer radius exploded in red mist there would be no more bar brawls or fight ever
Anonymous No.718024835 >>718024932 >>718025307
>>717950353
>>718024729
I have anti-woke fatigue....
Anonymous No.718024932
>>718024835
I have anti-anti-woke fatigue...
Anonymous No.718025162
>>717950298 (OP)
There's a difference between presenting the political situation in a game's world and lecturing
Anonymous No.718025257
>>717950298 (OP)
Politics is when genitals
Anonymous No.718025271
>>717995246
It's even worse because there records of him saying he enjoyed getting people executed and violence in general. And Che was a manufactured martyr. Fidel Castro, his revolution successful decided Che was growing too fast and could threaten him and sent him to Bolivia to "spread the revolution" woefully understaffed and unprepared because he knew Che would get found and killed and he would have both removed a political rival And gain a propaganda tool. Most commies decide to ignore that fact.
Anonymous No.718025307
>>718024835
I have retard fatigue...
Anonymous No.718025324
>>717950353
How is this picture political? Trump literally looks like that
Anonymous No.718025569
>>717963092
>my viewpoint good contrasting viewpoint bad

I want to challenge this, because I think the logic is flawed. Is a Star Wars game being authentic to the source material "bad politics". If it's being authentic, it of course is going to portray light side as good, dark side as bad. Even if it gives you the choice to question/doubt/or outright side with the bad side, it's very clear and self evident that it is indeed the the bad and evil side.

In fact, how does this apply to any game where one side is clearly good and the other is evil? Are Lord of the Rings bad games because they portray Sauron and his forces as absolute evil and the bad side? Wouldn't the "woke" thing to actually try to claim that the evil Sauron is just misunderstood, a victim of circumstance, or actually has a valid points and perspective?

Like yeah, you should feel bad if you side with Sauron or the Sith if you are siding with them seriously or not just doing it for the shits and giggles of a power hungry evil run for the fun of it or to see how things go. Anything else would be inaccurate and a disservice to the setting, and ironically would be introducing woke by saying that morality has to be displayed in shades of gray where a view point can't be presented as good or bad.

Let's be honest- you aren't upset when your viewpoint is shown as good and the viewpoint you disagree with is shown as bad. You probably cheer and take it at face value. You are upset because you can't handle when the inverse happens- when something portrays a viewpoint too close to yours as the bad one.
Anonymous No.718025987
>>717963763
4th grade going well for you?