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Anonymous No.717958573 >>717959014 >>717959114 >>717959514 >>717960761 >>717960817 >>717960991 >>717961185 >>717961975 >>717962210 >>717962618 >>717962685 >>717963773 >>717965863 >>717967045 >>717967212 >>717969560 >>717972738 >>717988568 >>717988636
Ace Attorney thread
I really am not enjoying Dual Destinies. I can see where they keep trying to use the "3DS" feature with the professor throwing chalk at the screen too but it's removed in the collection.
Anonymous No.717959013
Only the Phoenix trilogy and edgeworth duology is canon
Anonymous No.717959014 >>717959070
>>717958573 (OP)
I think you're currently playing the worst game in the series, sorry anon
Anonymous No.717959070 >>717964301 >>717967369
>>717959014
I meant to say worst trial but worst game also applies lul
Anonymous No.717959114
>>717958573 (OP)
5 and 6 are trash
From what I remember only the dlc in 5 is ok, it's a shame I liked Athena, Simon and Fulbright
Anonymous No.717959369 >>717961761
I have no idea why DD and SoJ turned out so ass when that team proved they had potential with AAI2.
OP you should just drop it now and be done with the series (or play the AAI/GAA games if you haven't already).
Anonymous No.717959514 >>717960991
>>717958573 (OP)
Spirit of Justice is much much better, don't worry.
Anonymous No.717960761
>>717958573 (OP)
I liked Dual Destinies. Spirit of Justice is better however.
Anonymous No.717960817
>>717958573 (OP)
WHERE IS ACE ATTORNEY 7, CAPCOM!

WHERE IS IT!
Anonymous No.717960848 >>717960902 >>717961107 >>717961449 >>717961465 >>717961482 >>717961616 >>717963014 >>717963505 >>717982017 >>717982185 >>717993015 >>717996238 >>717997434 >>717998702
I have no idea how people can hate DD/SoJ but jerk off GAA. GAA is the same shit except everything is boring and you have to play another game to get (underwhelming) resolutions to lingering plot threads. Is it because Shu Takumi worked on it?
Anonymous No.717960902 >>717961465 >>717965030
>>717960848
Filtered
Anonymous No.717960991 >>717969929
>>717958573 (OP)
Don't listen to this retard>>717959514
Spirit of Justice is just as bad, if not worse
Anonymous No.717961075
i like dual destinies. i get it butchered some characters but in isolation it was pretty good. it was just too easy
Anonymous No.717961107 >>717982306 >>717999259
>>717960848
Not to mention it is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNG for no good reason.
Anonymous No.717961185 >>717961319
>>717958573 (OP)
I played DD for like 20 minutes and got filtered after they said "the dark age of the law" for the 69th time
Anonymous No.717961319
>>717961185
Anonymous No.717961449 >>717974216
>>717960848
The new cast and setting is breath of fresh air for a series that got really stale after AJ.

I think GAA1 and 2 might be the worst in the series in terms of overall case quality, but in every other aspect GAA is really good, you can tell that it was a passion project instead of just another safe AA sequel.

Also it manages to look and sound better than AA5 and 6 despite coming out earlier, how the fuck could it happen?
Anonymous No.717961465 >>717986086
>>717960848
GAA is ALMOST perfect until it got ruined with this>>717960902
Fucking hell, what was Shu Takumi thinking? I mean, GAA isn't bad, but that moment really sours me. Hopefully he will ever be able to top Ghost Trick in his career.
Anonymous No.717961482 >>717965664
>>717960848
muh no magic muh overarching story
Anonymous No.717961616 >>717963181
>>717960848
GAA was hard carried by Herlock, Van Zieks, and the hope the final boss would be cool (he wasn't). Didn't care for most of the cast or cases.
Anonymous No.717961693 >>717962087 >>717962986 >>717993015
I think Dual Destinies and Spirit of Justice both completely shit on Apollo Justice. I don't think anything will match up to the sheer satisfaction of all of 3-5, but I do like DD and SoJ mostly.

I had the worst time with AJ. I think I only liked the second case and that was it. I don't get why people give DD a hard time, I thought it was pretty fun. It also leads into SoJ well where Apollo is actually allowed to be the real main character for once. It's pretty fucking rad and the only thing I disliked from SoJ was Nahyuta being a dog shit prosecutor.
Anonymous No.717961761
>>717959369
Too much focus on Apollo wank with the "epic" overarching story trying to replicate 3-5's success.
Anonymous No.717961975
>>717958573 (OP)
DD is pretty bad, having 3 protagonists is pretty stupid especially when Athena only exists to make the last case more dramatic, Apollo has some fucking weird motivation in the game and they erased most of Phoenix's character development in Apollo and changed him back into an idiot
They dumbed down the investigations massively so that you only ever investigate 1 room at a time, and the animations/models in DD are pretty stiff
These days I'd tell people to skip DD and go straight into SoJ
Anonymous No.717962087 >>717962323
>>717961693
>3-5
I got spoiled on who the culprit is in that case. Fuck, what could've been.
Anonymous No.717962170
>AJ trilogy is universally considered bad
>"WHEN'S AA7??????"
I don't understand the AA community
Anonymous No.717962210
>>717958573 (OP)
This and the following game, as well as the two Edgeworth games were not written by the original writer of the series, but another director and a mix of script-writers for hire, who also worked on Senran Kagura.
That's why a lot of it feels way more generic and padded in the writing department. It doesn't have the spirit of the other games.

A Dragon Ball GT of Ace Attorney if you will, where the corporation took over the franchise and forced someone else to do it.
Anonymous No.717962289 >>717962495 >>717962581 >>717963779
I don't understand why fags keep treating Ace Attorney as a "gay" series when the number of characters that even has "gay" undertones can be counted on one hand.
Anonymous No.717962323 >>717964856
>>717962087
That fucking sucks man. Finding out everything near the end and realizing what was happening had me super fucking hyped at like 2 AM when I was playing through it.
Anonymous No.717962324 >>717962368 >>717962451 >>717964856
Only play Shu Takumi's games. Ideally that means the Phoenix trilogy, Great duology, and Layton crossover.

There's an argument for including Apollo Justice as well (but not Dual Destinies or Spirit of Justice). It's a decent game, but Ace Attorney will never have another ending as good as Bridge to the Turnabout, and Apollo Justice is not worth making it not the ending anymore.

A shame. I like Revisualization, and Trucy, Kay, and Rayfa are the best assistants in the series. It's just not worth all the bullshit.
Anonymous No.717962368
>>717962324
Kay is literally the worst assistant.
Anonymous No.717962451 >>717963040
>>717962324
>Don't play the best game in the series
>play the Layton Crossover instead
Anonymous No.717962471 >>717962525 >>717962557 >>717963040 >>717963602 >>717972437 >>717982467
Thoughts on PLvAA?
Anonymous No.717962495 >>717963669 >>717965928
>>717962289
"I don't like that you're making me consider morals instead of logic," was conveyed in English as "Thanks to you, I am saddled with unnecessary feelings."

The series never recovered.
Anonymous No.717962525
>>717962471
As a fan of both series I thought it was decent. Most AA fans were filtered by typical Layton shenanigans.
Anonymous No.717962557
>>717962471
I like layton's puzzles but I don't like having to tap every inch of the screen to get to them
Anonymous No.717962581
>>717962289
Fujos literally just need two attractive men to be in the same room together
Anonymous No.717962618 >>717962865
>>717958573 (OP)
>Dual Destinies

Yeah, it's the worst in the series by a decent margin.
Go play TGAA1/2 or somethin'.
Anonymous No.717962685 >>717962736 >>717969634 >>717973002
>>717958573 (OP)
I am so starved for Ace Attorney content. I've even played all the clones. I need new games.
Anonymous No.717962726 >>717962912
I just don't get how the fuck people in here can shit on DD but give SoJ a pass when it suffers from the same problems they bitch about in DD
SoJ's writing literally reeks of writers that never played the original trilogy
Anonymous No.717962736 >>717962835 >>717985484
>>717962685
Did you ever try Staffer Case? It left a terrible first impression but each case made me like the game a little more to the point that I was genuinely excited to see where the series would go by the end
Anonymous No.717962835 >>717963141
>>717962736
Does it have court segments and cross examinations?
Anonymous No.717962865 >>717988557
>>717962618
>Yeah, it's the worst in the series by a decent margin.
As much as I dont like DD, AJ is still the worst AA game.
Anonymous No.717962912 >>717963586
>>717962726
I'm sorry that you're blind and retarded. SoJ is a definite improvement over DD it's not even funny.
Anonymous No.717962917
First and third game good. Anything else is fucking shit not worth your time.
Anonymous No.717962986
>>717961693
>I don't get why people give DD a hard time
Just off the top of my head, as someone who hated DD:
>It leans way too heavily into the wacky anime shenanigans for my taste, especially in 3-3 with the law highschool
>Tries to cram 3 separate protagonists into a 5-case story, which splits the focus way too thin and ends up with none of them having a satisfying character arc. Apollo in particular gets cucked out of the spotlight even harder than he was in his own game
>Too much random sci-fi tech out of nowhere like the robots and Athena's mood ring gizmo, which IMO clashes with the "mostly realistic but there's some supernatural shit here and there" feeling of the rest of the series
>Can only investigate certain designated rooms (mostly just the crime scenes), which is a huge downgrade compared to all the funny flavour text earlier games had scattered around
>The witness/culprit breakdown animations are way too long and over-the-top, to the point where most of them felt ridiculous rather than satisfying
>Throws out pretty much everything that AJ tried setting up (Phoenix reverts back to his pre-hobo self instantly, Trucy gets shunted into a background role, no other returning characters, no mention of the jury system, etc.), which retroactively makes AJ worse because everything that happened in it is now completely meaningless
It definitely has its moments, but overall I enjoyed it the least out of the games I've played. Blackquill was great at least
Anonymous No.717963014
>>717960848
TGAA1-4 is one of the worst cases in the series, to the point that it makes me think that Big Top is overhated (even though I still don't really care for it).
>one of the jury examinations ends up being a complete waste of time, so the case's pacing ends up being fucked up
>crime is a series of contrived coincidences
>culprit is annoying and unlikeable
Anonymous No.717963040 >>717982468
>>717962451
Investigations is the "valid point but not the one the game wanted you to make" at its worst, and drags on even worse than Rise from the Ashes. Even if Investigations 2 was the best game, it wouldn't be worth wading through Quercus Alba's bullshit to get there.

>>717962471
Replaced the least interesting part of the game with another series, which is good. Better themed setting than Spirit of Justice. I like Barnham and Darklaw. The Storyteller going from "apparent main antagonist" to "they accused my daughter of WHAT" was a good twist. Feels like classic Ace Attorney. Introduced the group cross examination that was later used in Great Ace Attorney. Best Pursuit theme in the series and it's not even close.

Good shit all around. Shame it's stuck on 3DS.
Anonymous No.717963141 >>717968851 >>717985484
>>717962835
It's got a kind of cross examination thing where you're given dialogue snippets and are asked to analyze them in conjunction with evidence.
It's pretty rough around the edges though imo, just go into it with tempered expectations and the knowledge that it gets better
Anonymous No.717963181
>>717961616
>the hope the final boss would be cool (he wasn't)
I hate that the culprit actually made a good argument about his crimes, even if the morals are obviously wrong, but the game never actually gives you a chance to refute him and instead goes for a lazy deus ex machina to resolve the conflict.
Anonymous No.717963332 >>717963392 >>717970881
Kino.
Anonymous No.717963392
>>717963332
based
Anonymous No.717963505
>>717960848
The cases are interesting. For most of the series, the culprit is a witness who tried to frame your client. In Great Ace Attorney, the culprits are:
>a witness who tried to frame you
>a witness who didn't try to frame anyone
>the defendant
>a juror
>a dead man
>a background element
>the victim
>the coroner
>the judge
Anonymous No.717963586 >>717996453
>>717962912
>Culprits are all obvious as shit
>2 good cases in the entire game and they aren't even that good
>Main villain is the worst one in the franchise
>Nahyuta is the worst prosecuor to date and his redemption is unearened
>Rayfa is a shit character and her redmeption is retarded
>Game gives you no reason to care about Khura'in
>Plotholes up the ass
>Makes Phoenix regress as a character to make Apollo look good
>Maya finally comes back after being MIA for 6 fucking games
>Barely do shit with her
>In the country where spirit mediums originated from
>Make the game about Apollo and not Maya
>Has to give Apollo another bullshit backstory for his presence there to even make sense
>Threw Apollo into a literal shithole country and made it his legacy

Ok retard, SoJ was a fucking train wreck, and the only good thing about it is that if they do make A7 (which I pray to god they never do), Apollo will be nowhere in sight
Anonymous No.717963602
>>717962471
Meh Layton game
Awful AA game
Can't even remember what the new characters do
Great soundtrack
Anonymous No.717963669 >>717963849
>>717962495
>localizers ruin everything again
I get the argument for translated names since a lot of puns and jokes wouldn't really work, but fuck, I sometimes feel that it would be better if the series were properly retranslated.
Anonymous No.717963773
>>717958573 (OP)
Moments before my wife Thena unlocks her tied up fetish
Anonymous No.717963779
>>717962289
AA is like Yakuza where it has a pretty huge fujo fanbase but you never hear about it and all the pretty blatant fujobaiting in the games goes over your head until you hear about it.

Also the OG artist may have been a fujo game artist.
Anonymous No.717963834
Athena's filler case in SoJ was fun. I hope she eventually gets her shit together so we don't have to have more first person shakedown moments from Blackquill. Even though the girls liked it.
Anonymous No.717963849
>>717963669
It's a perfectly good translation. He says exactly what he means. It was also 2005 and homosexuality wasn't really mainstream, and they had the benefit of knowing that Phoenix still hasn't moved on from his ex-girlfriend at that point, so there was no reason to think fujos would run with it the way they did.
Anonymous No.717963856
>717963773
AI slop
Anonymous No.717964112
The og trilogy are the only games that will ever matter. This franchise should have ended after the perfect ending that was 3-5
They tried to capture lighting in a bottle twice with Apollo and failed horribly
Anonymous No.717964301
>>717959070
>Worst trial.
Cannot be true, because it has Robin in it.
Anonymous No.717964856
>>717962323
I learned my lesson after that. I did NOT look up anything about the series until I have finished every game. Finally caught up with everything after beating AAI2 rmeaster last year and now I'm free. I can look up anything about this series to my heart's content without spoiled ever again.
But still man, fuck. What could've been.
>>717962324
>Only play Shu Takumi's games. Ideally that means the Phoenix trilogy, Great duology, and Layton crossover.
And Ghost Trick.
Anonymous No.717965030
>>717960902
me when I post vidya butts and the jannies are trying to permaban me
Anonymous No.717965664
>>717961482
Yes.
Anonymous No.717965863
>>717958573 (OP)
I love Ema!
Anonymous No.717965928
>>717962495
I'm pretty sure jap fujos liked the series before the English release but I could be wrong about that
Anonymous No.717966078 >>717982580
I liked the "magic bullshit" in the original trilogy and SoJ and how there was a set of established rules for spirit channeling that you had to use to figure out the cases. I wish there were more cases that involved spirit channeling fuckery.
Anonymous No.717967006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koZci_Z6k6Y
Anonymous No.717967045
>>717958573 (OP)
Better than SoJ though. Athena x Apollo interaction is cute and Blackquill is cool
Anonymous No.717967180 >>717967253 >>717967320 >>717967968
...
Anonymous No.717967212 >>717976504
>>717958573 (OP)
It unironically gets better a few cases in when everything starts clicking together and you realize it's all connected. Should be the next case actually.
Also, don't forget to do the DLC case. If you save it for last it won't make any sense.
Anonymous No.717967253
>>717967180
>TGAA2 is overrated!
Anonymous No.717967320
>>717967180
>SoJ is a good game!
Anonymous No.717967369 >>717972872 >>717972872
>>717959070
Layton vs Phoenix would like to say hello
Anonymous No.717967968
>>717967180
>first case in SoJ, Phoenix has to bullshit his way harder than ever because everyone is completely against him
>second case in SoJ, Apollo has to bullshit his way harder than ever because everyone is completely against him
Oh fuck yes I'm loving this theme, can't wait to see where it will go-
>plot kicks in the third case and they never go deep into that theme again (bonus: the fourth case is completely unrelated to everything)
I actually liked the game overall, and the final case felt pretty cool especially when spoiler related happened (why the fuck didn't they split it in 2 though) and the final part didn't annoy me as hard as most people seem to hate it.
The localized names sucked absolute ass though. They aren't even trying to be puns anymore.
Anonymous No.717968652
my wife
Anonymous No.717968851 >>717982606
>>717963141
Starting it up on my switch, thx anon
Anonymous No.717969447
Remember that your ass belongs to Phoenix Wright.
Anonymous No.717969560
>>717958573 (OP)
I played GAA before DD and SoJ and it was hard. 3D truly does not age well
Anonymous No.717969634 >>717972224 >>717973627
>>717962685
I would play this if there was any way to buy it right now.
Anonymous No.717969929 >>717981587
>>717960991
Impossible.
Turnabout Storyteller alone shits on every case in 5
Anonymous No.717970881
>>717963332
>this case happened because in Japanifornia they don't do autopsies unless you were murdered
Why is everyone praising this case again
Anonymous No.717972224
>>717969634
>I would play this if there was any way to buy it right now.
Trials.of.Innocence-TENOKE
Anonymous No.717972437
>>717962471
Been a while since I played but I liked how dark it started off as. The game really goes all out into the execution scene after the first case. Like you know executions happen in the PW universe since one character in AA3 says she was hanged, but they're always kept offscreen.

Of course it wasn't an actual execution but you don't know that at the time.
Anonymous No.717972738 >>717976535
>>717958573 (OP)
Its not even a real 3d effect.
Like even when wife Bonny points the cane at the screen, the model actually changes to a larger one to give the illusion of it getting closer to you when it actually isn't.
Anonymous No.717972872
>>717967369
>>717967369
i dont get why anyone hates any of these games.
Anonymous No.717973002
>>717962685
have you played the 2hu clones? if not try those
theres also a couple mlp related contents such as turnabout storm, though if I where to recommend anything its the wierd general where people roleplay shitpost AA cases on /vg/
Anonymous No.717973627 >>717976962
>>717969634
Just pirate it, anon. Capcom isn't giving you a way to give them money, it's practically a moral duty at that point. Hell, half the AA fanbase only played AAI2 because of fan translations. You're not hurting anyone but your backlog.
Anonymous No.717974216 >>717974338
>>717961449
AA5 came out in 2013
GAA1 in 2015
AA6 in 2016
GAA2 in 2017
Anonymous No.717974338
>>717974216
Thank you. I was like no way.
Anonymous No.717976504 >>717977923
>>717967212
How would it not make sense? Wouldn't completing all the cases give me more knowledge to understand the DLC case? I am interested now though.
Anonymous No.717976535
>>717972738
So it didn't really use the 3DS technology? That's like the worst of both worlds.
Anonymous No.717976962
>>717973627
That's not even a Capcom game. It's the Chinese AA clone that got banned from Steam by Mastercard.
Anonymous No.717977923
>>717976504
I can't say anything without spoiling the issue, so I'll just say it's recommended to to it right after the first case of the game IIRC. The DLC is about Phoenix's first job after he got his badge back.
Anonymous No.717980145
5 was fine enough for what it was.

6 had some serious issues even putting aside the Khurain retardation and the last case was pure garbage.
Anonymous No.717981587 >>717988698
>>717969929
>spinoff with Blackquill and Athena never ever
Anonymous No.717982017 >>717982285
>>717960848
An AA game lives or dies by its style even more than its substance, and GAA is the most stylish of all the games. It has the best music, art direction and presentation.
Anonymous No.717982185
>>717960848
DD aside, SoJ was a lot more satisfying for me than both GAA games, that setting and soundtrack tho are god tier and i like a lot of the characters there.
Anonymous No.717982285 >>717988085
>>717982017
GAAs 2nd case is such a filter. Not getting a court segment fucking blows even if the 3rd case gets to it immediately afterwards
Anonymous No.717982306
>>717961107
It felt like you could finish the trilogy with plenty of time left before you finish both GAA games.
Anonymous No.717982467 >>717988871
>>717962471
I liked it for the Umi vibes. The final bits of Layton BS with the bells and the invisible cape are really atrocious asspulls.
Anonymous No.717982468
>>717963040
>Even if Investigations 2 was the best game
>if
Anonymous No.717982580
>>717966078
I feel like its just a minority of people who treat AA too seriously who hate the magic stuff.
Anonymous No.717982606 >>717985484
>>717968851
I'd also recommend Aviary Attorney, it's short and pretty easy but it's pretty good and you can actually fuck up the final case (which is actually my favorite ending)
It's a damn shame the developer trooned out, what the fuck did they do to you Jeremy
Anonymous No.717985484 >>717985979 >>717991494
>>717962736
>>717963141
>>717982606
holy shit anon I just got to case 3 and I thought the game was too easy but I've been picking the bad endings all the time. I gotta replay the first 2 cases lmao. This is pretty fun, thx for the game.
Anonymous No.717985782
I just love her smile
Anonymous No.717985959 >>717986191 >>717989487 >>717990926 >>717997665
T&T = AAI2 > PWAA > JFA > SOJ > DD > GAAY2 > GAAY1 > AAI > AJ
Anonymous No.717985979 >>717986146
>>717985484
Yeah the difficulty spike shocked me. Case 1 is so easy you can only lose if you do it on purose. In Case 2 you can miss a lot and still win. But in case 3 you pretty much have to do everything perfectly during the investigation without wasting a single day to win the "trail", because lion bitch doesn't give you any breathing room.
Anonymous No.717986086 >>717988509
>>717961465
Whats the context, i never finished the 2nd game.
Anonymous No.717986146 >>717991494
>>717985979
I was talking about Staffer Case
Anonymous No.717986191 >>717986276
>>717985959
>AJ
The whole story of Phoenix's resignation is dramatic and dare I say KINO. Phoenix hobo design is kinda good. Trucy is great. Kristoph underrated. Even 4-3 case is not THAT horrible as people say becase you don't need to manualy rewind video (like in fucking rise from the ashes). The only weak point of the game is Apollo himself and his bracelet.
Anonymous No.717986276
>>717986191

Tbh none of them are bad games

I feel like I should have put AAI below AJ now, it has the weakest final case of the series
Anonymous No.717988085
>>717982285
I didn't care desu
Anonymous No.717988427
Thena is still my wife bros
Anonymous No.717988509
>>717986086
holograms in victorian london
Anonymous No.717988557
>>717962865
what's wrong with AJ?
Anonymous No.717988568
>>717958573 (OP)
It only gets worse anon. Unfortunately I can only recommend playing the original trilogy, investigations if you want something more and Apollo Justice if you REALLY need more.
Anonymous No.717988636
>>717958573 (OP)
That's not the Clark statue pose at all...
Anonymous No.717988698
>>717981587
sounds amazing to me.
I honestly just love athenas grin. She's so fucking cool.
Anonymous No.717988871 >>717989112
>>717982467
Every Layton game has a giga asspull at the end
It's a tradition
dude hallucinogenic gas lmao
Anonymous No.717989112 >>717994630
>>717988871
I have no idea why people still use the twist of second game as an example when the twist of third game is miles, MILES, M I L E S worse
Anonymous No.717989487 >>717989931
>>717985959
T&T is so insanely overrated
Anonymous No.717989931 >>717990335
>>717989487

>Features pretty much all the main characters of the first 3 games
>Chalk full of cameos
>Cool overarching story that involves three cases
>Two filler cases are actually pretty damn good (Especially 3-2)
>Get to play as Mia
>Get to play as Edgeworth and face Franziska
>Godot is a cool character
>Dahlia is a great villain
>Absolutely kino final case
>Provides a solid conclusion to the original Phoenix arc
>Adrian Andrews is back and cuter even if she still seems like she hasn't taken a shit in two months

Nah
Anonymous No.717990335
>>717989931
>Two filler cases are actually pretty damn good (Especially 3-2)
No, 3-3 is trash with awful writing
>Godot is a cool character
He's the biggest retard in original trilogy and that says a lot, fucking Gumshoe and Sebastian are 200 IQ compared to him
Can agree on the rest but don't really care about Andrews
Anonymous No.717990635
It's almost 7 years since UNMISSABLE
Anonymous No.717990926
>>717985959
PWAA > T&T > JfA = AJ > AAI2 > AAI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SoJ > TGAA2 >>>>>>>> DD = TGGA1
Anonymous No.717991494
>>717985484
>>717986146
Holy shit you're already on case 3? Pace yourself a little dude lmao
That being said I'm glad you're enjoying it, I'd say things get really good in case 4
Anonymous No.717993015
>>717960848
Play Ghost Trick

>>717961693
The people that like AA4 or GAA are people that want cool new shit. The people that like AA5 just want more of the same.
Anonymous No.717994630 >>717996191
>>717989112
isnt it just it was a fake future but also the time machine kinda worked for a bit
Anonymous No.717996191 >>717997020
>>717994630
It was a HUGE ASS underground cavern (that magically didn't collapse from all that fucking empty space and nothing supporting the walls) with painted backgrounds on the walls that somehow just worked and nobody bat an eye, with fake fucking sun somehow working, with fucking Thames replica somehow flowing through fake future London while being UNDERGROUND, with NOT A SINGLE citizen trying to leave the borders of the city only to realize that they're in a cave (even though there are FUCKING boats floating in the fake ocean), where every retard falling for the "we're actually in the future London" trick without a doubt, where tons of scientists thought they were making a time machine to come back to present time and they NEVER questioned as why they're building it like a huge ass walking 4-legged robot with weapons of mass destruction, where this entire fake underground with fake London and big ass robot and everything else was built on unlimited funds of a single random ass granny in London (even though not even rich ass dude like Elon Musk can pull off shit like that) who just randomly died and left everything to a random adopted kid and NOBODY in London bat an eye, and where at the end the writer just goes "okay, time travel actually worked, now here's a forced tearjerk for Layton ;)".
So yes, "haha funny massive hallucination based on paintings" is about on par with "Pink Panther: Passport to Peril", "haha Nessie", "haha paid actors" and "haha it's magic, I ain't gonna explain shit". But Unwound Future is just on another level of asspull.
Anonymous No.717996238
>>717960848
Yeah it's just mentally ill cultists and fujos who are more pretty boy dolls. Morons cry about how slow other games are and then soi clap because the game spends 30 minutes having Sherlock repetitively dance in order to say "Soseki Natsume is being accused of murder again"
Anonymous No.717996453
>>717963586
>Culprits are all obvious as shit
As opposed to what Trials where 2/3 of the game is lmao Dahlia or fucking Tigre kek
Anonymous No.717997020
>>717996191
Oh yeah, I remember that. It's one of those things where the supernatural thing is more believable than the "grounded" explanation.

I'm usually not too bothered by these things but this one really pulled me out of it.
Anonymous No.717997434
>>717960848
Because GAA is good and the first two are shit. Next question.
Anonymous No.717997665
>>717985959
TGAA1/2 > AAI2 > T&T > AA1 > JFA > AAI > The rest
Anonymous No.717997727 >>717998618
My favourite character is sebastian. I really liked his arc, I just wish you got to interact with him instead of 90% of the time having to talk to Justine. Your final logic chess and his final scene in the courtroom is great.
also I like that on the splash art he’s essentially figured out who the mastermind is, which you wouldn’t know until after finishing the game
Anonymous No.717997852
>tfw remember the ace attorney mmo /v/ server.
It was perfect for almost a year bros. Then schizos and tranny rippers ruined it. If you're reading this Trick, Rayla, or Jumbles: neck yourselves if you've been considering it.
Anonymous No.717998196
>[Case] is bad because the killer is obvious!
>[Case] is bad because the witnesses are stupid!
The telltale signs of a tourist who doesn't understand the series. Prove me wrong.
Anonymous No.717998618 >>717999076
>>717997727
He really is Debeste.
I'm still mad they changed the names
Anonymous No.717998702
>>717960848
Ace Attorney was always LOLRANDUMBXDD wacky Japanese humor. Read anything better.

Recent mystery English VNs on Steam over the past few years:
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1249260/Birth_ME_Code/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1228600/Blankspace/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1568920/Clean_Slate/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1414250/CORPSE_FACTORY/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1728290/Decide_4_God/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1820720/The_Divine_Deception/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2011310/Entropic_Float_This_World_Will_Decay_And_Disappear/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2058090/The_Game_of_Fourtune/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1338940/Head_AS_Code/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2801620/Look_Inside/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1271300/Methods_The_Detective_Competition/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1940040/The_Price_Of_Flesh
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1020030/Quantum_Suicide/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2621950/Reaplaced/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1725910/Shards_of_Chaos/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2560870/The_Specters_Desire/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2091580/SYNESTHESIA/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1513120/The_Zodiac_Trial/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1590230/Tyrion_Cuthbert_Attorney_of_the_Arcane/

Upcoming mystery English VNs on Steam:
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2551380/Beyond_R_Rule_Ripper/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3790060/Bound_Between_Desks/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1349820/The_Lost_Delinquents_of_Rollings_High/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1287170/Thiefs_Roulette/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1929350/Ubel/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2385550/Underground22/
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3211810/Whispering_Memories/
Anonymous No.717999076 >>717999858
>>717998618
I even played the remaster and I cannot remember what blaise’s new name is, because blaise is such a perfect name. Eustace is still such a horrible choice too. It doesn’t fit him at all
Anonymous No.717999259 >>718000153
>>717961107
I can't remember how long GAA1 was but 2 only took me 35 hours. It just feels like 70 because the pacing is shit and everything takes too long. A competent editor could probably fit both games into 40-45 hours of gameplay
Anonymous No.717999858
>>717999076
The only one I can understand changing is Raymond Shields, but it really grew on me to the point that I'm attached. Also Justine Courtney is literally perfect and they ruined her name completely in the rerelease
Anonymous No.718000153
>>717999259
Nta but one of the most infuriating timewasters is the fact you have to watch the deduction scene in full. You should be able to butt in at any point to show where hes wrong. If you don’t butt in then he’ll start going on about lions being in the apartment or whatever, but it sucks having to wait for five minutes just to do the entire scene again, but this time you can actually play the game.

Also iris can just be removed, she talks way too much and has nothing important to say.