Thread 717967189

None of these people really care about games or gamers.

They see it all as widgets.

Games, chicken, it’s all the same.

>>717967189 (OP)
Does this mean Xbox and Doritos are breaking up and now Xbox is dating Chicken Nuggies?

>>717967189 (OP)
i just hope this sista makes her paper.

>>717967360
Kill yourself this instant reddit faggot

>>717967189 (OP)
>At Tyson Foods, we are more than chicken. We're protein leaders
They're trying to get the dudebros back

nobody in the world cares about "games or gamers"
is just something where you go press buttons when have nothing better to do or can't be arsed doing anything else

>>717967189 (OP)
chiiicken
nugget biscuit, nugget in a biscuit

>>717967189 (OP)
Why would you hire a gamer to run a gaming business?
That's like hiring a drug addict to run your drug trade operation.

>>717967415
did you expect everyone here to go along with your worldview, incel?

>>717967490
Exactly, shes doing great things for xbox.

>>717967469
what's that faggot up to these days?
He ever recover from the false allegations?
Can't believe that whore grew a career off such vile behavior

>>717967469
Damn it, now I want that.

>>717967549
shitposting on twitter

Mike Tyson is a food business magnate now?

>>717967490
>Hires a nigger to run a chicken business

>>717967490
Explain why that could be a bad idea. If the drug addict is not retarded he will make drugs cheaper and higher quality since it's his best interest.

Phil Spencer "Sarah... when I said to get the Tendies on board in the xbox ecosystem, I didn't mean actual chicken tenders! Welp, at least we got something that will actually release and not get cancelled after saying how much we loved it months prior."

>>717967667
>If the drug addict is not retarded
lol

Would you buy Chicken Nuggets in the shape of Halo Weapons?

>>717967629
The business has been family-run through four generations, making the Tyson family one of the wealthiest in the US. Their combined net worth is more than $2.5 billion. Tyson Foods is an Arkansas-based meat company that produces about one fifth of the meat consumed in the US. Among the brands that Tyson owns are Jimmy Dean, Hillshire Farm, and Aidells.

>>717967768
provided they're the same price as normal nuggets I probably would once for the novelty
but they'd probably be more expensive

>>717967490
this
I'd rather have someone that's just upfront about being a businessperson first instead of that fake shit where they're like
>"See, I'm a gamer just like you! :)"

>>717967490
People tend to forget that any kind of media industry is a business first.

>>717967189 (OP)
So...what the fuck does this person actually do? Aside from fuck up Xbox?

>>717967881
>”I don’t play games or even care about them, i’m here to ensure this corporation makes as much money as possible and that’s it”
Great to know they don’t have my best interest at heart. Not that the fake presentation is any better, but at least they pretend to care

>>717968070
>but at least they pretend to care
Doesn't mean anything when they're blatantly spewing bullshit into your face.

>>717967189 (OP)
Steve Race was probably one of the most influential gaming executives in history, and he came from fucking Reebok. I'm not saying Bond is Race-tier, but my point is that executives are executives.

>>717967881
You are the type of guy to hire a twink personal trainer or go to a fat nutritionist

>>717968270
Yes, but being on two boards is a little funky. Surely she's leaving X-box if he's going to Tyson's board?

shes actually been fired from xbox

domino's got a new ceo a couple years ago that said he didn't care about pizza, he just wants to sell it.

>>717967490
Hey, if Tyson foods wants to hire vegetarians, we'll see how well it works for them.

>>717968270
Steve race was part of an 80's startup that made toys, and was at the company that did the retail launch of Nintendo in the 1980s, then jumped to Sega's marketing that then beat Nintendo. He has a significant background as a marketing hero.

What does this woman actually do? I'm not even trolling or going chud mode. I really don't know. I mean Xbox's P+L looks rudderless.

>>717968638
Not really. She's on the board of at least 3 other operations. Chegg, and the goddam ESA.

>>717967490
Yes.

>>717969370
>What does this woman actually do?
No idea. My point was that gaming executives shouldn't be required to know or care about video games, regardless of whatever Bond does.

tyson? the fried chicken company?

>>717968638
being on several boards is normal if companies think you can make them money

Tyson Foods confirmed for gamer fuel
buy a bag of frozen breaded chicken patties and nuke 'em like it's a Hot Pockets

>>717967189 (OP)
>Games, chicken, it’s all the same.
It is though

the OP itself this isn't related to videogames

>>717967189 (OP)
>None of these people really care about games or gamers.
No shit retard. Welcome to late stage capitalism. Corps don't care if you're happy: Only that they're making money.
Oh, your vidya hobby started making money? DAS MEIN NAO! FUCK OFF! GO DIE SOMEWHERE!
Welcome to your only life objective: Do shit or die

If you don't like fried chicken, you're not a real gamer.

>>717969854
This is any stage capitalism retard

>>717967189 (OP)
These people don't actually do anything.

>>717967958
>business first
>flops
Clearly didn't work for xbox.

>>717967189 (OP)
yes
>no games
>no eggs

>>717970538
that would be for the best if it was true, but sadly, they get paid

>>717967189 (OP)
it's just a club and youre not a part of it

>>717967189 (OP)
Of course the black woman would want to get closer to the fried chickens.

>>717967189 (OP)
Board position is neeting for millionaires. Fake job.

>>717968176
This guy would be right at home on /v/. Hates vidya, unable to standby as people discuss things he's not familiar with, deluded that he's hypercompetent when he's just being carried along by a family that pampered him too much.

>>717967189 (OP)
what should i have went to school for to be a career CEO?

What the fuck has Bond even done for Xbox?
>inb4 she Bond Burger'd it.

>>717969854
Damn I wonder what early stage capitalism looked like.

>>717972429
This single fucking book killed so many people in a single century alone all over the globe. What a fucking crime of literature.

>>717968176
Dude was not wrong. If Nintendo operated more like a business than an old Japanese man's retirement home then they might make better consoles and games.

>>717967958
being a business means givingbyour customers what they need or want. businesses have a mission statement (e.g. ice cream company makes tasty ice cream), which, if forsaken, leads to failure.

>>717967189 (OP)
Very senior corporate types aren't supposed to be micro managing and making detailed decisions so what they need is an overall understanding of how very large companies operate. This is why they can jump between corporations that do wildly different things. This has been normal for ages.

The problem is that you get leadership that does micro manage and refuse to delegate decision-making to the subject matter experts.
Or alternatively complete mercenaries that don't give a shit about running the company well long term since they know they'll get a new job in six months and just need to cut costs for the next quarter even if that means burning down the company

>>717967881
>I'd rather have someone who that's just upfront about number go up consequences be damned and ruin everything and kill formerly healthy businesses to increase value for the shareholders
Most recent example: SIG Sauer, Inc.

>>717967189 (OP)
>when Im overemployed I get in trouble
>when "strong black woman" has 2 C-suite jobs, its "empowering"

>>717972967
Can't blame her for picking up a second position considering that Xbox probably isn't going to be a thing any more in 10 years.

>>717972296
That's your first mistake. It's not about any specific skill. It's human factors.

>>717973149
>>717972967
Don't forget being on the board of 3 other fucking companies.

Honestly, at this point, they should just hire gamers. All of the mockery this idea receives tends to fall flat when you see what a horrible job the business people have been doing. I don't want to hear it anymore.

>>717972296
an MBA in Wharton or Harvard, you also need to mingle with the scions of the top 1% so you have a network.

>>717973356
they specifically do not want people with that kind of backbone

>>717967490
No businessman ever created a successful video game IP. They're just parasites who swoop in afterwards.

>>717967189 (OP)
Are they finally gonna make a gamer friendly way to eat their bbq wings?

>>717967189 (OP)
This woman shows far too much teeth when she smiles.

>>717967189 (OP)
>Games, chicken, it’s all the same.
Well, both consumer groups have cocks in their mouth...

>>717967189 (OP)
CEO's job is to essentially look at all the companies different divisions as little black boxes where money out = multiple of money in.
they really dont need to understand the product, they pay people to do that.

>>717972545
Where's your multi billion dollar record breaking company retard?

>>717972901
The problem is that she's now doing two jobs at once. You dont want the multi-million dollar company being ran by someone who spends only half of her time leading it. She's now lterally half-assing both jobs.

these things do understand they are tokens, right?

>>717973669
>they really dont need to understand the product, they pay people to do that.
Yeah, people who also don't understand the product.
However, I can and should be able to expect from a CEO to at least do SOME homework and understand the market, because that's very necessary in order to form a proper strategy.
Like a general can leave the proper movements during a battle to his officers, he still has to understand and know the battlefield in order to position them properly beforehand.
Today's tech CEOs are all
>yeah bro AI
>yeah bro cloud
>yeah bro live service
and the retarded investors are gobbling it up

>>717972967
>Anon only now realizes most CEOs arent really doing more than couple hours of work a day providing, while those who actually create the value get paid peanuts
Its a small club and you arent in it. You are just another resource to be broken down and extracted of value.

>>717967360
Word!

Build dat grip on Roscoe's consoles games and fried chicken!

If you don't understand what product you're making you can't manage the product
>no you retard she's managing the business
Okay what side of business is she managing? HR? Accounting? What decisions she makes and what knowledge are those decisions based on? If it's "hey this studio underperforms let's sell them off" kind of shit then that's just textbook not giving a fuck about what's actually going in your company.

Eat the rich now.

>>717973748
AWARD WINNING tokens. Which tells me the other fucks are even worse than her.

>>717973962
If there was any indication that she knows at least SOME critical part of the biz, it would be different. I mean Steve Race who was mentioned before isn't a gamer, but he understood marketing to kids and teens, as well as retail supply chains.

>Eat the rich now.
LOL. Nah. The free market will fix it. The money will flow more towards more competence. Sony is probably doing even worse, because they bought Bungie instead of Activision.

>>717973840
>yeah bro AI
>yeah bro cloud
>yeah bro live service
all of which have massive multiples, everyone's making live service because fucken roblox and fortnite have made more money than basically every other game combined despite any and all screeching from /v/.
yeah it's shit but it makes perfect sense.

>>717974106
MS just cancelled all of theirs. So did Sony.
It's fucking over for that bs

>>717974089
>The free market will fix it.
lol
>The money will flow more towards more competence.
lmao, rofl even

Mmmmm chicken

>>717967274
No it means Tyson is gonna stop making chicken entirely and sell the Dino Nuggets rights to Sony.

>>717974178
I'm betting that I'll have at least some people making the shit I want, and I'm also betting that you aren't eating the rich in my lifetime.

>>717973669
>Anon has been eating bootlicker soup again
Anon, they do need to understand the product. They arent a burger flipper slaving away on a salary. They are leaders of a million-dollar companies. Their astronomical pay is justified through extremely demanding position. At that level you can and should demand extreme expertise at the position they are responsible for. Otherwise you're just simping rich people.

>>717972545
How is operating like a business working for Sony and Xbox?
>neither console worth buying over a PC
>no games
>no games
>muh subscription economy (actually losing money and putting devs out of business at an alarming rate)
>setting the wild success of statistical outliers as their baseline and considering anything less a failure, inflating production costs to 10x what they should be and destroying the industry
>any time a low budget low expectations game receives unexpected attention and massive profits, they step in to make sure it's ruined and nobody will ever touch the IP again
>both a literal joke compared to nintendo

>>717973707
Being a board member just means showing up for a meeting every month and accepting decisions that have already been prepared

>>717973669
she's not ceo. And Xbox's P/L has been horrible.

>>717974345
The funny thing is that the thing she's literally won awards for is something that actually requires game knowledge, and as the recent layoffs for teams spending years and years with nothing to show for it indicates, she's actually quite crap at it.

>>717974413
Nintendo ALSO acts like a business, but they aren't led by generic Ivy league b school clones. All their people have years and years working at nintendo at SOME part of the game making and sales process.

>>717974089
Money wont flow towards competence anymore anon. Stop living in 1995. All major markets have consolidated into couple big players who have enough resources to neutralize anyone who might become potential threat in their market. This doesnt require skill, but money, which they have as consumers have to buy their products. Case in point: all this woke shit that would've stopped after first few flops yeara ago if they had fair competition inAAA-consumer market.

Money flows into money, and corruption grows with it.

>>717974414
And getting paid 100 000$ for your extremely difficult job that no one else could do.

>>717974345
>Otherwise you're just simping rich people.
Wait, what does "simping" mean in this context?
I only know "simping for". What happened?

>>717967189 (OP)
Business executives don't have to know anything about the product they're selling. They understand profit margins.

>>717974594
>All their people have years and years working at nintendo at SOME part of the game making and sales process.
That's precisely how they don't behave like a business. Late stage capitalism is hiring CEOs who have destroyed every company they've ever led, who inherited power without ever working a lower-tier job, because of their track record of leading many big companies. Business is thinking of short term profits above all else, having no plan except nonsensical infinite growth faster than the global population increase, spending billions on a meme some shyster sold you because his presentation had big words, and insulting your customers when they don't like your product.

Nintendo has just barely begun acting like a business in the latter half of the Switch's lifespan, as everyone with a soul has begun to die off or leave the company.

>>717974793
In my language we have a term for those people. We call them "locusts". I think it's a fitting one.

>>717967189 (OP)
This is common. I've worked at corporations where some execs do this, with Tyson too funny enough.

>>717967490
Valve being run by people who make and like video games and aren't total morons is the reason why they're dominating everything while everyone else is eating shit or going full mustache twirling villain out of greed.

>>717974793
LOL. I'm sorry, but your have a completely insane idea of what even the most mediocre B-school reject knows. I'll see you on the other side of the first bear market you've known in your life.

>>717969570
Yes

>>717974915
There is most definitely a role for extracting short term gains and shutting down outdated businesses in an orderly fashion. What surprises me is the number of investors who, seeing the track record of said failures, trust their money to those fucks. Better the money be out of their hands anyways.

>>717975023
>um aktchyually the company who did things differently from the rest of the gaming industry for the past 30 years and received very consistent fan praise, reputation for quality, and profits, is just as bad as the companies who have seven failed attempts at copying Fortnite per year! you don't know shit even tho you lived through it sorry sweaty

>>717969570
Yes. Literally. The biggest fried chicken processer in the world. Be polite now. Or shitpost on /ck/ Either is good.

>>717975106
>shutting down outdated businesses
What does "outdated" mean here? A healthy business that simply decides to not enter the eternal growth arms race because they have their stock of loyal customers and only need a handful here and there to subsist?
It's a comfy gig for everyone involved, unless one of the higher-ups gets those dollar signs in his eyes and sells to some venture capitalist.

There's nothing wrong with just being a CEO

Ubisoft and EA's CEO aren't gaymers and refuse to be labelled as one yet here you have Microshit pushing a fake ass negress as a gaymer just because Phil was one - or at least he pretended to be one

>>717975402
>There's nothing wrong with just being a CEO
Wrong. That's like saying "there is nothing wrong with just being an RCP party commissar".
You are part of a very specific system geared towards making everyone miserable except for a tiny elite.

>>717972503
Damn, people were murdering other people with copies of the Communist Manifesto? Where can I read about the Communist Manifesto murders? It's a pretty light book, really more of a pamphlet, so they must have been pretty inventive.

>>717975130
LOL. If you had any predictive talent, you could be multiplying your money instead of dumping whatever the fuck that is. Knowing Ubisoft has been making stupid, short sighted moves, making games at budgets that are completely unrealistic for what their customers are willing to pay for is something you could have made a huge amount on.

>>717975402
EA's CEO actually has quite a bit of domain knowledge. He's a jock. It's made a difference in EA Sports success because he understands what sports fans want intuitively better than his competitors.

>>717975182
Large, structural investments in an area with declining returns that cannot easily or practically pivot. They may have SOME income, which complicates things. It's one of the areas where a chainsaw act is justified.. Simple examples: Oil or mining concerns in areas where the area is all mined out. Or the standard textbook example of payphone makers. .

>>717975856
Certainly not in /v/. Followup on that line should get the fuck out.

>>717969854
Why does making you happy have to be unprofitable?

>>717967360
bootlickers need to be guillotined as well

>>717967490
She doesn't need to be a hardcore gamer, but she should have some interest in video games to better understand the trends of the medium and make good decisions.
I doubt she's specifically an expert in videogames and chicken in particular, so I'm going to guess she has no idea of what's going on in both fields and she just doesn't care.

>>717976176
Oh she's a chicken expert alright, don't worry about that

>>717967189 (OP)
consoomers won

>>717974289
Why would you eat the rich when you can just make fun of them online and watch them overdose because their fee-fees got hurt?