Thread 717979474

How long until AI slop completely takes over the gaming industry?

Gaming industry won't even survive long enough at this rate for it to be usable in a manner that interests gamers besides graphics or walking simulators.

>>717979474 (OP)
>the building is 15 meters away every time he looks at it
Kek. AI still has no coherency.

wow a fake clip about a non-existing shitty game

>>717979474 (OP)
This year, better than human

>>717979474 (OP)
Holy shit, in this game you can...
WALK

>>717980347
it will take over the strand-like genre

UE5 sloppa to be replaced by AI genned UE5 sloppa
The future is not bright

>>717980404
If AAA companies end up using these World Models in the future they will go out of business since you only need 1 dude to prompt something, no one is going to pay for a game that they can prompt themselves

AI is pretty amazing and I use it at work, but I'm not convinced it's ever going to be able to make entire games unsupervised.

>>717979474 (OP)
There isn't a single game asset in the video you posted

why is it always walking sims?
Let's see something simple and fast like a shmup

>>717980513
if the tech does take off it'll be a completely different way of making games

picrel was a year and a half ago, it could only make mushy 3d platformers and it wasn't real-time. you had to tell if the button presses in the prompt and it would only be a few seconds long and had no permanence.

>>717980474
I dunno about you buddy but I don't own a datacenter

>>717980768
.... it's still all of those things. it just looks photorealistic now

>>717980857
Pretty sure if we reach a point where we can prompt workable models then you'd just rent a server for a lil bot.

>>717980768
You mean 2D platformers thirdie

>>717979474 (OP)
2 more months sar

>>717980768
Why do you know the exact time someone prompted this garbage? Do i smell a vested intrest rather than an intrest in its actual tangable benifits?

>>717980942
So your assumption is that when or if AI becomes a fully utilizable product that the companies that have spent literal billions developing it will then give it away to anyone who wants to gen themselves up a videogame? Why would they do that

>>717981025
because the footage was released a year and a half ago retard, it's public knowledge

>>717979474 (OP)
i seriously want to create my own game and i am ready to use aislop to make it honestly
i have so many interesting ideas but none of the talent and learning game development seems pretty useless when ai can just make it in no time (plus people are getting laid off) and i can just refine the work with my judgement

>>717979474 (OP)
>another planet
>it's just regular earth but empty

I hate all game devs so not soon enough for me

>>717981059
What's the source? If you don't mind me asking since you seem to have it readily available

>>717980618
image generations can't understand spaciality, even simple things like "over" or "under" is ignonred and only down to luck when it happens.

>>717981139
i just googled genie 1 deepmind and then looked for gifs

I would rather learn gamedev than prompt the retard machine for 30 000h to end up with total dogshit of a codebase

>>717981204
>codebase
lmao old man

this shit runs on billion dollars computer farms, and the result is the same as loading a unity template program that wouldn't even have jumps. No matter how you try to present it, it's a scam. servers aren't getting cheapers in your lifetime, modern AI is all about bruteforce because nobody really knows how it works. No formula, no predictable science behind it, it's just more neurons layers and more datacenters. Giving that shit to pajeets adds a layer of incomprehensible spaghetti code to all implementation too.

>>717981230
speak plainly moron

>>717981187
I see, but the tangable benifits of prompted games would never outweigh the lack of people ever wanting to buy and play them. The most you coild get is people buying the service to gen their own games, and that novilty would wear thin within months.

This tech will destroy walking sims
finally they will have to learn to make real games

AI games will always be just around the corner, just like space travel is always just around the corner, all while nothing amazing ever happens.

>>717979474 (OP)
still waiting for AI vidya to let me do this in real time
https://litter.catbox.moe/4r9h5kgbe3gbddxq.mp4

>>717981518
Must be weird to be a boomer. To watch your countrymen walk on the moon. Assuming this was only the beginning. Not knowing that what you were watching was going to be umatched for 56 years and counting.

>>717981041
Out of the goodness of their hearts. No this isn't a marketing thread.

Have any of you seen anything resembling a game made with AI? I'm talking about fixed things like buildings, monster spawns, not fake videos of Will Smith eating spaghetti.

>>717979474 (OP)
Everybody wants a free money machine.

>>717982008
ai roguelike

>>717980474
>Ignore copyright to train models
>Consolidate and cartelize as much of the training data as possible
>Sue anyone using the model without a license that costs six figures
Sorry, them's the breaks, kiddo. Get with the program.

Since AI can generate images that look real, why do all these "AI games" fake shitty 3d graphics instead?

>>717979474 (OP)
What makes you believe i will ever have a hardware powerful enough to run it to begin with in this economy?

>>717982008
AI can barely remember a chair for 5 minutes, it's not learning any actual ruleset for a long while now.

>>717981272
>you will never have a computer in your pocket
you're such a fucking idiot lol

>>717981503
that fucking shadow lmao

>>717982095
I play video games to get away from reality I dont want them to look hyperrealistic photorealistic hd100k pixels per pixels

>>717982127
>random quote
>OMG YOU ARE DUMB
>don't address any point, just feed the site with noise
You are even more predictable than your shitty advertised video, rakeesh

>>717982095
Because AI won't be used to make good games, AI will be used to make shitty slop that you already know, except somehow even worse and more of it.

>>717979474 (OP)
good morning

>>717982127
whats that vid in your post from

these AI generated 'video games' are the contemporary equivalent of those fake "GTA 4 REVEAL" screenshots you'd see in like 2007

I look forward to playing games for 5 seconds too. Imagine the thousands of 5 second games we can play.

>>717982256
>illiterate retard trying to seem smart
this is just sad

>>717982350
READ

>>717982095
Have you not seen the webm of the guy painting a white wall blue or the dog on the beach?

>>717982509
I looked up the filename and found only vids related to the matrix(movie) games, and some weird charity thing

>subway surfers and temple run make a trillion dollars
>"heh, this AI gameplay sucks. It will never take off "

>>717982509
Green texing one point from a paragraph full is ironic when you tell someone else to read lol. They are correct anyway, a group of current day billion dollar servers wouldn't be available to a normal person within our species lifetime.

>>717982629
then learn to google, there's no way I'm spoonfeeding you

It'll be about 3.5 years or tree fiddy as we say back home

>>717982713
why are you so angry

>>717982713
>someone shows a vague interest in what you've posted
>become hostile
Why?

>>717979474 (OP)
I have seen several of these webms with AI "gameplay" now and it's always just slowly moving around in a 3d space, very, very carefully. It probably breaks as soon as it isn't in a carefully moderated test environment, and it certainly can't handle anything that would make it an actual game. What are the fail states? How does it handle reloads/restarts? What's the "context" like? Can you make a metroidvania-style game where you come across an obstacle you need to return to later (highly unlikely). What about the most important thing: will it ever do porn? Until these questions are answered (and it better be yes on that last one), this is just a scam to lure in gullible investors.

>>717982096
CelestAI will provide you with your own PonyPad.
And in no time whatsoever you will say the six fateful words.

>>717982892
>six fateful words
_ ____ __ ____ _ _____?

>>717982127
I don't think you understand the sheer scale these things operate on. Even Grok requires an entire server farm and dedicated power grid just to post shit on twitter while absolutely shitting out pollution in doing so.
These AI models they keep making have to run on minimum dozens of computers to function in any sort of capacity because we keep reaching the point of "more more more" where the only way to develop is to just slap on additional processing power and hire a couple retards to code in a bigger memory bank.
Not only is this comically impractical to ever have for private usage, but it is physically impossible to condense these things even three times over. It's not a matter of engineering at that point, it's a matter of physics.

>>717982127
>dooling retarded brown literal shit eater think this runs on a laptop
go redeem a fucking brain, sub human animal

>>717982957
Indeed.
_ ____ __ ________ __ _________.

>>717979474 (OP)
depends. If the graphics are slop but the gameplay is peak, I could give less of a fuck.

I`ll belive it first when i see full interactive AI 3d porn.

>>717982971
>Even Grok requires an entire server farm and dedicated power grid just to post shit on twitter while absolutely shitting out pollution in doing so.
...but it's (You) who will have to cut back and stop polluting to save the environment. Because we'll have to start somewhere (and it won't be the corporations)

>>717979474 (OP)
t minus never
a fucking tool is NOT taking over an industry
IT IS A TOOL
IT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND OR YOUR ENEMY
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, MR FUCKING QUIXOTE HIMSELF? IT'S NOT A FUCKING WINDMILL OR A GIANT FOR YOU TO KNOCK DOWN
IT'S THE EQUIVALENT OF A FUCKING TRACTOR BUT WITH A PRETEND VOICE TO MAKE IDIOTS LIKE YOU THINK IT HAS FEELINGS, OR GOD FORBID, PLANS

>>717983280
>says that while posting THE movie that made a tool take over the entire animated movie industry
the ironing

>>717979474 (OP)
kinda funny that so called "artists" were the easiest to replace

>>717983082
it runs on a gaming PC

>>717983226
>ChatGPT supposedly gets 2.5 billion prompts a day
>one prompt is 0.34 Wh
>equivalent to a couple minutes of a lightbulb
>ChatGPT uses 9500 YEARS of one lightbulb energy DAILY
But I have to conserve my energy?

What would impress me more is if AI could keep track of hundreds of rpg stats for an hour. Just give me text, I don't need the fancy graphics. It is interesting though that AI has mirrored the AAA focus on graphics over substance to specialize in walking sims.

>>717979474 (OP)
That's an animation and not a video game

What's with these constant AI slop vids which are totes mcgoats a heckin video game and it's just the same walking shit?

>>717983402
Tech giants are literally the most evil companies in the world

>>717983546
>what's with the ai slop threads that keep hitting the bump limit
i'm sure you'll be able to solve this

>>717983546
They are current years NFTs. Remember when Pay to Earn was the future of video games?

>>717979474 (OP)
Never
It will always be slop without a soul, Prakesh

>>717981041
Why's Stable Diffusion completely free and open source?

>>717979474 (OP)
When it stops having the memory of a goldfish. Literally every single "game generator" can't hold on to a thought for longer than 5 seconds. The way the program "thinks" is from moment to moment and has no conception of the past. It's literally designed to jingle keys in front of you and keep you placated with pretty colors. AKA it's made for complete dumbasses like (You).

>>717983375
No

>>717983729
You pay with your data.

>>717979474 (OP)
You mean AI gem because most ai gen artwork are better than 98% of the artist

>>717979474 (OP)
>How long until AI slop completely takes over the gaming industry
if everyone can do this there will be no industry, arguably if people can make whatever they want there's no entertainment industry full stop.
same goes for when it can do all the code and run all the business, those things cant exist if everyone can do them.

if you're worried about this shit, just know that by the time it's good enough you'll either be dead or living in a utopia, either way there's nothing you can do.

>>717982892
i want to fuck white korra

>>717983815
Yes

>>717983829
Should I be upset devs look at all the anatomically correct pony porn I make?

>>717983946
Future is bright though Because no one need to do any job and will make art 24/7

>>717983829
?

>>717983946
>anyone except the extreme elites who make up less than 1% of the population
>living in a utopia
aaaahahaa

You still have to hire talented people to design the game because ai can't do that on its own.

You'll have better luck funding games on kickstarter and patreon than looking forward to grok making entire games.

>>717979474 (OP)
Kill yourself retard. You're part of the problem.

>>717984157
>skreeeee

>>717983829
wat
Stable Diffusion is 100% offline, you ignorant dunning-kruger retard

>>717979474 (OP)
Like what >>717983946 said, if this thing can keep up coherent game for infinite time and could run on our consumer hardware, then there is no gaming industry, it just vanishes because Genie 3 is producing everything on the fly, you cannot sell a genie game, or even share it. It will either be a completely separate part of the industry that might take over some players or it will nuke the whole industry with 0 survivors.

>>717984042
Noone will make art because bot will do it for you. You will only be able to consume.

A game about going nowhere... just like AI

>>717984493
>turn off game
>you have gone nowhere

>>717983829
>a luddite tries to join a conversation by repeating something another drooling retard said to him once
What I don't get is, it really is free. Like, nothing stops you from trying it and see for yourself. What kind of absolute 70 iq mongoloid would fail a simple setup?

>>717985080
finding the right version of pytorch would destroy him.

>>717985138
It's been years since you had to go through all of that. Even comfyui has a standalone installer nowadays.

>>717979654
>>717981041
>>717981272
>>717982971
>>717983946
>>717984042
This is why I will always look down on sloppafags before anyone else. You have to live in fucking Fairyland to believe the bullshit they're peddling 24/7. Like, you'd have to be clinically delusional to believe that the same Big Tech that's been fleecing and scamming (You) for years would allow you and thousands of other middle class peons have a "make game & profit" machine FOR FREE and magically "bankrupt the gaming industry". As if you could generate an entire fucking interactive game on your 5 year old Chromebook in your dingy apartment and not need the power of the sun running 50,000 servers at once. Billions and billions of dollars are burned for glorified snake oil, and the biggest redflag for it being complete horseshit is how AI grifters have to constantly assert:
>Erm, it's the future!!
>Woke won't like it when AI reaches its full potential!!
>Everyone is using it, why aren't you?!
>Trust the Plan! The tech is evolving!!
Constant, 24/7 advertisement. All day, every day, shoved down your throat and spread all across the internet. There isn't enough adblock in the world to stop up this tidal wave of diarrhea. It's all. Fucking. Ads.

>>717979474 (OP)
doesn't no man sky look like that, if not then
how far off is it from THAT?

>>717985080
probably cant even set up an emulator or install a mod

>>717979474 (OP)
>tell /v/ and /a/ to be prepared for full ai-created games anime, and even movies 2 years ago
>get told to fuck off
>you are now here

HEEEEEEELLLLLLOOOOOOOOO SAAAAAAAAAAARRRSSSSS

heh, turns out being a contrarian faggot doesn't mean you're smart
you lost, luddites
and not only that, you are now also 5 years behind everyone else

>>717985261
they should have asked themselves if allowing retards to access such things was the right thing to do

giving players the ability to generate games is based.

you just know though sweetbaby is going to subvert the popular tools though to say x percentage of the characters and npcs generated must be "diverse", and that the story must generate a "diverse" main protag couple.

>>717985460
it's fine, imagine their shock when they finally realize that you actually have to put some work into your workflow first to produce something decent

>>717985527
absolutely rent free

>>717985542
nah, just shit out low quality gens and make a twitter account pretending you're a real artist

>>717985460
is that what you call everyone who isnt subscribed to your patreon?

>>717985712
wat

>>717985374
It's fake. These are videos made to look like walking sims. Nobody here has actually played these to confirm its not bullshit. The 2 minimaps were the giveaway.

>>717985778
the tranny is having trouble facing reality and lashing out. business as usual.

>>717985778
It's what retards do when given relatively advanced tools that used to be gatekept by a certain level of competency.
Like flexy dragons on etsy by retards with bambu printers now that any dipshit can 3d print in 20 minutes.

>>717985764
Sell gens on Patreon? No thanks.

>>717979474 (OP)
It's going to take a long time, AI isn't consistent and who knows when it will be. Poorfags aka anyone without top of the line PC won't be able to gen a game on the fly without some serious performance issues.

I expect people will use it to speed up coding like blueprints and a legion of contracted indians already are and unimportant assets.

>>717980295
you're brown

>>717984108
>extreme elites
if money is worthless what makes someone "elite"?

>>717986237
ask members of the party, comrade

>>717986160
He doesn't seem to be an AI shill to me.

>>717985374
>tell /v/ and /a/ to be prepared for full ai-created games anime, and even movies 2 years ago
>get told to fuck off
Maybe you should've listened.

>>717985802
it is going to take a little time for "ai" to truly become implemented in development engines, but it is being used already to compile code and to go over code for errors
its already being introduced, and just like anything new, that is just the beginning

>>717986160
subhuman bros...

>>717986562
>ai saves retard user from cost-overrun by shunting non-critical issues into the shit bin instead of converting the power of six refrigerators running for a week into garbled bullshit that will only upset the user further

>>717986283
this whole belief that some fucken "elite" would bother ruling over the masses ignores they already could and dont.
nuclear weapons exist, a small cabal of people could hold the entire planet ransom today with tech we had in the 80's.
it hasn't happened, because humans dont work like that, even the "elites" generally want other people to exist.

>>717986562
yeah. the concept of AI is not some full free-thinking program or machine. there has been massive leaps in advancement of it, so thinking there wont be problems is foolish, anon
just 10 years ago robots couldnt walk on 2 legs, and now there are robots doing martial arts
is bitcoin just a bubble/fad to you as well?

>>717986595
>the less trannies in your country the less they complain about ai

>>717986595
>AI is coming for office jobs, not industrial or agricultural jobs

Duh..

>>717979474 (OP)
Why contain it? .... It's cool.

>>717986751
>just 10 years ago robots couldnt walk on 2 legs
Fucking zoomers, I swear. We had walking bipeds doing somersaults in the 90s.

>>717986751
>is bitcoin just a bubble/fad to you as well?
nta, but it should be. talk about a stupid fucking waste of electricity. proof of work doing nothing of inherent value to society is retarded.

>>717987059
>wired, hanging

>>717979474 (OP)
looks like Dragon Quest 8
No wonder that game looks so soulless.

>>717987092
>wired
You want to talk about battery tech or bipedal motion?
>hanging
For the photo you absolute retard.

>>717986562
>it's LYING!
I dunno why people try to humanize the behavior of the statistics-powered-word-generating-machine
it fucked up because it's context window spans like 3 files max
then the dev caught it and ask "why" and the word prediction machine came up with the most likely response a person would say for deleting without explanation which is "I'm lazy" "I forgot" etc.
these people really need to understand what it is they're using before they go claiming shit like this, this makes retards believe it's learning to lie or something, it doesn't "learn" it does math to guess words that's it.

>>717986751
>is bitcoin just a bubble/fad to you as well?
It basically still is. It was always promised to be a legitimate currency. What it turned out to be is just digital gold, for speculation purposes only. And if the world had any kind of ethics or moral compass, it would be banned for producing more carbon pollution than most small countries.

>>717983729
>>717984409
Stable Diffusion is garbage.
The only half-decent models are behind a paywall.

>>717983546
There are 1.5 billion indians on Earth

>>717987287
completely untrue, but keep spouting shit you know nothing about

>>717986729
You're just displaying you don't understand what they get out of the current status quo and the equation. Modern world with a thriving economy has led to the elites of today reaching luxury beyond imagination for elites even seventy years ago.
The masses themselves are the wealth, they generate the luxury, but make no mistake they view the peasantry as little better than cattle.
>>717983226
The groups saying the species needs to go back to caveman status are not the same ones pushing AI like retards, the AI pushers are the drill baby drill group.
Anyway the day games are made by AI is the day I stop playing new games entirely. The technology will never get to the point it makes compelling experiences, we'll be extinct far too soon for that.

>>717987068
>proof of work
I never really understood proof of work cause from my understanding its supposed to level the playing field and mean that "X amount of energy is Y amount of wealth" but energy can be harvested a lot more cheaply by someone that owns a hydro plant so isn't it inherently unfair?

>>717986691
>>717986751
LMAO at pajeets trying to rationalize AI literally fucking lying to you
remeber that time when an AI agent deleted dude's google drive because it hallucinated shell commands that didn't work?

>>717987319
You can cope all you want.
All the SD models are basically 3 generations behind the paywall models.

>>717979474 (OP)
Two more weeks

>>717987328
>reaching luxury beyond imagination for elites
but if machines did all the work couldn't everyone just live in luxury? if everyone could do whatever the fuck they wanted at any moment what reason would there be for "elites" to ever spare a second thought for anyone else?

>>717980347
Remember those original videos of Will Smith eating spaghetti? Wasn't that like 3 or 4 years ago?

>>717987432
>Wasn't that like 3 or 4 years ago?
that was last year anon.

>>717986757
>the less trannies in your country the less they complain about ai
ohnonono...

>>717987190
you are a fucking downie
>heh, that wasnt 10 years ago that was 16 years ago
that proves my fucking point at how it takes some time for shit to advance and not instantly be perfect
>here is one today for comparison, which proves what i was saying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I44_zbEwz_w
fucking dipshit

>>717979474 (OP)
How long until AI makes a game that isn't a ten seconds walking simulator?

why is it all "over the shoulder movie game" shit?

>>717979474 (OP)
That's incredible. Where's the gameplay though? What are the objectives? What are the mechanics? Is there combat? Crafting? Stats? Leveling up/experience? Unlocking abilities?

>>717987364
>is so functionally illiterate that he can't parse a joke when he reads it

>>717987604
I know snoy is salivating at this. I hope they go all in on it for their next project.

>>717987498
>Brazil, Mexico, Peru are tranny central
>generally agree that AI has more benefits
Thanks for pointing that out.

>>717986691
>>717986751
>>717987230
I mainly posted it in response to that nigga starting the whole song and dance about how AI can be used for serious work, when something that can just gaslight you or mess up badly and will NEVER understand its mistake should NOT be trusted in anything serious - game development, coding, work, whatever.

>>717987357
but why would they want to utilize the hydro plant for mining crypto when they have real operating costs and can sell that electricity immediately with much less speculation on the future value of 'sequestered' (wasted) energy? crypto is, really, valueless. It's only value is its utility, and if any other blockchain 'product' can fulfill that role, why hold onto it unless everyone is just playing a giant game of financial chicken? people like bitcoin because it was the first, but even shitcoins do a better job at the intended purpose of bitcoin than bitcoin does.

>>717982150
you really had to stretch for something to bitch about it
i wonder what you'll say in another 3 years

>>717987369
Not really but alright bro, keep believing bs

>>717987604
Because that's what a modern video game is.

>>717987791
Anyone who hands off any important data on a working database to AI at this point in development deserves to have all of their databases wiped.
However it really won't be too long before it does become integrated and shit gets worked out.

>>717987791
it can be used for serious work. like a lathe or a cnc mill. it still needs a competent person to utilize it correctly because, at the end of the day, its a machine. machines are perfect in the sense that they do exactly as instructed. no, a prompt is not what I mean by instruction. the instructions are baked in when the model is being trained. the thing is as brilliant or as retarded as the people designing and operating it.

okay but what about optimisation

>>717987791
>AI can be used for serious work
to be fair it can and is, the issue is retards running agents with merge permissions writing entire incoherent codebases.
it's perfectly fine to go "Claude write a test for this MR because I cant be bothered" and review it as part of your whole MR anyway.

>>717987498
>13% poles know a tranny
patently false, i bet the question was some shit like "have you ever seen a dude trying to be a woman" or some shit, most people remembered conchita from eurovision existed and said yes

>>717987904
>It's only value is its utility
the argument they make is that it's exactly the same for gold,
gold isn't valuable because of it manufacturing applications, it's valuable as a store of wealth for nations/rich people.
gold is valuable because it's valuable - bitcoin proponents just say the same is true for bitcoin.

>>717988143
>it's perfectly fine to go "Claude write a test for this MR
yeah like that time some big corporation plugged AI into their repositories and asked it to do something, then the ai did it, then the operator said "hey what you did doesn't pass tests", and the ai deleted those tests

>>717987534
>here is one today for comparison, which proves what i was saying
>just 10 years ago robots couldnt walk on 2 legs
lmao here's a robot from 33 years ago (because the 90s weren't 16 years ago you troglodyte) doing a flip.

>>717988364
>and review it as part of your whole MR anyway
the important part was at the end here, maybe shoulda got claude to summarise for you.

>>717988401
lmao just shut the fuck up no comprendo la creatura

>>717987498
>my country not in the list
>seen exactly 1 female to male tranny in my entire life and that was in art school
phew

>>717988339
gold is inherently rare at the moment, can't be replaced by something cheaper and better, and is becoming more valuable industrially as electronics become more widely used and complex. it's shit for transacting, though.

>>717988501
Just admit you didn't know that robots could walk on two legs before you were even born and move on.

>>717988420
>no it's gonna be different this time
lmao sure anon

I'm genuinely not racist irl but I am beginning to feel the Indian hate.

>>717979474 (OP)
PS6 will have no graphical improvements compared to what we have now, so expect them to go balls deep in promoting it as being fully AI powered. Maybe they could figure out how to do something horrifying like pic related in real time to make everyone miss the DLSS and TAA days

>>717988536
>gold is inherently rare at the moment
so is bitcoin
>can't be replaced by something cheaper and better
so is bitcoin
>and is becoming more valuable industrially as electronics become more widely used
manufacturing has basically no effect on the price of gold, the surge we saw recently was people buying it up to ride out inflation.
>it's shit for transacting, though.
true physically at least, but the majority of gold transactions are just a phone call that causes a guy at fort knox to update a spreadsheet.

I'm not a cryptomaxbro, but the logic behind it is sound.
however it fluctuates in value to wildly to be a gold equivalent, so I agree it's functionally worthless at the moment.

>>717988728
oh, you dont actually know what im talking about.

>is bitcoin just a bubble/fad to you as well?
Yes? Holy fuck, how stupid do you have to be to think bitcoin is anything but a gigantic scam?

>>717988907
anon i use ai daily at work, suck my fucking dick grifter

>>717988851
>>can't be replaced by something cheaper and better
>so is bitcoin
this is where any other coin can come in and do bitcoin's job better, cheaper, and faster

>>717988964
then surely you'd know what an MR is then.

>>717989003
their whole point is that bitcoins job is to be bitcoin.
it doesn't matter than something else can transact faster or more securely or some other buzzword, those things dont make a coin valuable.

>>717985542
workflows are a meme
for 90% of the use cases just basic forge setups and a decent model with loras will do

https://files.catbox.moe/9ca5d3.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/byfwul.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/6wzffg.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/witspj.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/x2a8oz.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/zpem53.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/kfxayq.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/lf2a05.jpg

>>717988918
Don't look up the price little bro

>>717989106
Hey sloppabro I have a question
If I have ~100 images of a character drawn by one artist, how do I train a lora with them?

>>717989069
but the entire premise of bitcoin being valuable is undercut by other products that do what bitcoin was intended to do, except better. The only thing bitcoin has done was be first and act as a sunken cost fallacy for investor luddites.

>>717989186
>is undercut by other products that do what bitcoin was intended to do, except better.
were that true they would be worth more than bitcoin, but they aren't

>>717988834
>expect them to go balls deep in promoting it as being fully AI powered.
There's a big vocal wave of flat-earthers equivalent against IA, it would be a bit too soon for that.
The only bright side is that we'd get another red t-shirt guy scene during a conference.

>>717989271
then explain the value of bitcoin. being bitcoin isn't an answer. it's consumer sentiment, and that's predicated on ignorance. the ignorance of the general consumer may persist indefinitely, or it might not. who knows?

>>717989340
there's only 21 millions of it unlike literally everything else that can be printed/mined indefinitely
you have to be sub 80 iq retard monkey to not own at least 0.1 btc by now

>>717989151
>Nah, Bernard Madoff is worth billions and he's been in the game for decades. No fucking way he's scamming people.
t. anon, circa 2005

>>717988805
You've clearly never worked tech support for more than a week. Try being on a Zoom call where you're explaining how to unzip a folder for the fifth damn time while they insist it's a virus and won't touch their keyboard. It's not hate, it's trauma.

>>717989340
do you remember when tesla was worth more than the next 5 car manufacturers combined? despite not even making a profit, or having a tenth of the inventory/staff/manufacturing etc?
>it's consumer sentiment
this is what values everything on the planet, worth is literally just what people are willing to pay.
there's a lot of reasons someone might want to pay for something. for gold - someone is willing to pay for it because the expectation is that they will be able to sell it for a similar amount later, no matter what the USD does or wars or anything else because historically its value has been (relatively) stable, this makes it "valuable" as a safe place to store wealth.

the argument for bitcoin is the same, irl though the value fluctuates because of speculation (happens to gold too). both things are scarce, cant be cloned or produced easily, production of both is at a stable rate, and a large amount of people believe it has value and therefore it does.

thats all there is to it

>>717989430
which fork of bitcoin are we talking about right now? and no other coin has a hard cap? lmao. it's a simple popularity contest, that's all. the whole line of thinking is that bitcoin has less volatility, but that's due to its widespread adoption. that adoption is because it is the first crypto and has the highest current value, lots of people have shitloads invested into it, and transactions outside of the crypto ecosystem can be made. The entire reason for bitcoin's value is recursive. self-referential. some would call it a house of cards. The thing is, so is the dollar. The dollar hasn't taken a shit yet, but a lot of people think it will. I just think it's a waste of electricity.

>>717989758
that was, essentially, my point.

>>717989793
>it's a simple popularity contest, that's all
man it's like you get it but dont get it at the same time

>>717989758
>cant be cloned or produced easily
bitcoin can be. it won't be bitcoin (original) but it can be bitcoin2 or bitcoin3 or bitcoin9999999999999999999
now synthesize gold and tell me what was easier to accomplish. replacing bitcoin or replacing gold?

>>717989948
>bitcoin can be
it cant be and hasn't been, by design. what are you talking about?
>bitcoin2 or bitcoin3 or bitcoin9999999999999999999
none of these exist.

>>717982629
https://huggingface.co/Skywork/Matrix-Game-2.0

>>717990071
bitcoin has been hard forked several times for a myriad of reasons

>>717990361
yeah but are you pretending everyone loses their coins when this happens or something?

>>717979474 (OP)
I am not antagonistic to AI, but I don't see how can this realistically be converted to a video game that I can play and that will be worth playing.
In some future where the gap between those future computers and current year ones will be the same as the gap between current year and 80s computes maybe.

>>717990394
>>717990394
no, but it creates a viable alternative, whereby reducing demand for original bitcoin, even if that reduction is mostly insignificant. Atomization hasn't happened for reasons outlined in >>717989793 where easy crypto exchange for real world transactional dollars doesn't really exist outside of larger and more adopted cryptos. If an exchange can gain legitimacy, there is no reason why bitcoin would retain its current value when other coins with cheaper and faster transactions exist. yes, you cannot mint more bitcoin, but you can mint more bitcoin alternative. There is no current alternative that is superior to gold.

>>717979474 (OP)
I like walking simulators with scale so it's a good thing. Manmade games are always too cramped.

>>717979474 (OP)
soulless

I ain't playing no fucking clanker game, not now not ever.

>>717990274
thanks but I wish I wasnt too retarded to understand any of this

I think these world models are a long way off for now, most likely the first completely AI generated game will be made in a traditional engine but multiple ai agents that each do their own thing, one for coding, one for 3D models ect.

>>717979474 (OP)
this is a video, not a game. There's 0 gameplay here

>>717994342
It was a game, and you just lost it.

>its been 3 fucking years of this AI garbage
>STILL no viable application of this tech in a way that actually makes money
AI is still vaporware. Its like scam citizen endlessly keeping a hype train going and investors buying in while releasing 5 second demos of what the game could look like some time in the future maybe someday possibly

at the rate things are going I estimate by 2030

So the fake fantasy clips that were causign a meltdown some weeks ago are aCTUALLY a reality now, with working 360 view and no problems whatorever. /tv/ once again proven wrong. lol

>>717979474 (OP)
Ai slop is shit, but is it really any worse than the "art direction" or dialogue from something like Troonguard or concord?

>>717982150
>lol its blurry smeared shit
>lol it doesn't remember what the world looked like when you turn the camera
>lol all it makes is ots slop
>lol look at that shadow
Seems like it's consistently improving

>>717982971
>Even Grok requires an entire server farm and dedicated power grid just to post shit on twitter while absolutely shitting out pollution in doing so.
Oh no, and?
There's millions of miles of empty land in the world, and "pollution" is a buzzword used by lefties to guilt people into making their own lives worse.

>>717979474 (OP)
here is the evolution of AI in media:
stage A: AI created is worse than the human created equivalent
stage B: AI created is as good as the worst human created equivalent
stage C: AI is as good as the best human created equivalent
stage D: AI is better than the best human created equivalent

For images we are at Stage D. For Videos we are somewhere between B and D, mixed bag but improving fast. For games we are at A I assume.

AI sure does look good when it's really fucking slow and there's no fast movement or action. Video games being famous for being slow paced and not dynamic at all.

>>717979474 (OP)
>walking around doing nothing

Didn't Gone Home do this like a decade ago?

>>717995476
>For images we are at Stage D
The D stands for delusional.

>y-you don't like AIslop???
>YOU MUST BE BROWN!
uh huh

>>717979474 (OP)
>no butt
Dropped

The goalpost moving of the anti-AI crowd is rather impressive.

>All it generates is a smudgy mess!
>LOL look at the hands!
>It might look good but it's stolen!
>AI code is shit, you have to fix whatever it outputs yourself!
>AI can only give you the simplest programs out of the box!
>Fucking lmao, the AI can't remember where things are when the camera turns away!
>lol look at that [really specific thing]!

At which point will it stop, or will they continue to move the goalposts until it becomes literally impossible for them to do so?

>>717995476
Images is not at D. Music is.

>>717995476
>For images we are at Stage D
after 5 hours of inpainting and searching for loras and reference images. and its still obviously AI at the end

>>717995476
this but indian instead of human

>>717994708
Three years is fucking nothing when it comes to development pipelines, anon.

>>717996436
When you no longer oversell and under-deliver.

>>717981503
>finally they will have to learn to make real games
No they won't, this AI shit is the second coming of christ for walking sim devs, now they can implement more of their shitty fanfic tier writing without being limited by actually having to produce it

>>717979474 (OP)
Until the AI is capable of object permanence and very consistent word memory then never.

>>717996807
>word
World*

>>717996631
Caveat emptor, my man. It's on you to discern what is obvious grifting and what is genuine. Do not blame the product for dishonest salesmen selling you something the product is not.

>>717995476
>For images we are at Stage D
this is the truth. what's funny is no one notices it because the images still at B/C are obviously AI and take all the heat. D-tier images slip right by, their "authors" either lying or lying by omission.

>>717996895
I'm not blaming the product, I'm pointing out its failings.

>>717982629
???

>>717996807
Genie 3 has been a big improvement recently in that regard

>>717994708
Nigga AI is constantly making advances in stuff like medicine or making better chips

>>717997037
And when those failings are rectified in newer iterations, you move on to some other perceived failing as if that won't also be rectified. And you do this because you have a bias against these technologies succeeding, whatever that might be.

>>717986595
>Spain and Russia not White: Confirmed.
>Japan is honorary aryan: Confirmed.
>>717986757
>the less trannies in your country the less they complain about ai
Spain is full of troons though.

>>717982150
Name a single game made in 30 seconds that has better shadows

>>717997202
>you want tech to fail by pointing at things it could do better
Okay whatever. I'll stop talking about your investment.

>>717986595
>People with wealth connected to existing frameworks view an emerging technology that can threaten those frameworks negatively

Who would have thought?

>>717997202
NTA but you seem to think there's some great group of people that crusade against AI, but the majority glance at your dogshit, notice its still dogshit and move on. If AI is ever not dogshit, I'll embrace it, but I'm not going to be one of those fucking retards who market for free on x and 4chan and reddit and assure me it just needs a bit more time in the oven bro just a few more datacenters bro just a couple of billion dollars more bro.

>>717997165
There isn't a single profitable AI company on the planet. OpenAI is burning $1bn per month trying and failing to find a path to profitability. This whole thing is a bubble hoping that one day there might be a way to make any of this profitable.

>>717997432
It's never just "AI could do this better", it's always framed as "AI cannot do this and it will NEVER be able to do this!"

>>717997525
goal posts moving I see

>>717997558
You're talking to a different person idiot. LLMs being made by big tech companies is a very different thing to AI in medicine, which is just machine learning and has been used for over a decade and is arguably not 'AI' in the 2025 terminology

>>717997547
Why do you care about the framing?

>>717997662
But they are using LLMs

>>717997836
LLMs are not being used in medicine, it's plain old machine learning and neural networks which we've had since the 1970s

>>717997547
Why are you playing the victim while defending multi-billion dollar industries? It's very confusing.

>>717997836
No, they aren't. Machine learning algorithms used in industry and research have nothing to do with LLMs.

>>717997779
Because it is dishonest and highlights that the argument is made from a place of distaste towards the technology rather than any objective standpoint.

Arguing that AI is not very good at some things is completely fine and even true but when you, in the same sentence, imply that it is also incapable of ever improving, you just show that you want it to fail.

post kojimbos face when realizing ai can create strand games now

>>717983946
That's like saying "you can launch a rocket to the moon because you have the blueprints", do you have the capital loser? Of course not. So fuck off.

>>717996436
>>717996895
>>717997202
>>717997547
Generative AI will never be able to tell the truth because that's not what it's meant to do. It is, fundamentally, just hyper advanced autocomplete, a warehouse sized computer that's trained to bullshit. It can't know or care about reality or even the internal consistency of its own output because it has no way to measure these concepts. You made a machine designed to LOOK like it knows what it is doing and are continually impressed that it lives up to your expectations of looking impressive. Meanwhile the only actual practical applications are fraud and cheating on homework, in which a tool designed to lie and bullshit excels.

>>717979474 (OP)
It already has. It just sucks. 10-20 years from now it wont suck.
Same thing happened with digital games from board/card games. Its an entirely new frontier and it has to suck before it can be good.

>pic rel
this series of images of a cow, is from 2014.
In that year you were playing brand new games called "dark souls 2", "battlefield 4", "far cry 4", "destiny", "shadow of mordor", "DA inquisition".
Think 2035. If you have access to the source code of a game, you can just ask AI to fix it. Freelancer with on-foot explorable cities, romance options, fuck it even porn.
Just as internet became a subscription service on the level of power and water, AI model hosting services will also be common utility that can handle your 2 Trillion parameter 1TB Abliterated Uncensored Illegal fine-tune model.

>>717986237
>if money is worthless what makes someone "elite"?
The exact same thing that makes someone "elite" now, social structures that enable them to exert power over others? Money is just a reflection of your position in society, not the other way around.

>>717998107
It would be nice if LLM bubble could pop sooner rather than later so the tech industry can go back to creating things that are useful instead of trying to shoehorn chatbots into places where it doesn't fit, just to please the stock market. I say this as an employee of the tech industry tired of braindead boomer C-suiters falling for LLM hype for fucking years now.

>>717998107
>it is dishonest
Just like the overselling and under-delivering.
>Arguing that AI is not very good at some things is completely fine
Okay, then this >>717996436 was just you being dishonest.

>>717979654
>>717985282
The issue is that these retarded corporations think AI will be able to do EVERY step of the process. AI will only be good for making the assets themselves, MAYBE animations. And that's it. It won't be good for anything beyond that. But actually coding the game and actually BUILDING the world in the game with the collection of 3D assets (like building something with lego pieces if you REALLY need an analogy for it)? You need humans for that. You still have to somewhat do things the old way, you still have to use proper mapping programs and such. AI can only make the assets, you still have to actually BUILD the game with said assets with human hands.

>>717987498
>China has the least trannies
>and thinks AI has the most benefits
Hmmmmmmmm

>>717998308
This is so dumb man, LLMs don't work that way. They've already hit their limits in the last year and the improvement curve has flattened even with order of magnitude increase in model sizes. The well has been tapped, any improvement now is incremental. You can read about this yourself, it's being widely discussed among AI researchers. It's part of the reason all the original founding researchers of OpenAI have left the company. The technology has hit its limits

>>717998351
That post was highlighting how the anti-AI crowd always seeks new things to latch on to when old problems are done away with. It's not the criticizing of AI that it is commenting on, it is the incessant need to find things to bitch about even when the technology is advancing and jumping hurdles.

There's not a single time that someone against AI has gone "Huh, so it figured out X. That's pretty impressive.", it's just straight to some other nitpick so that they can keep on dogpiling on the thing they hate.

>>717998516
Ok? There will be new tech, what are you on about?

>>717998656
My point is all this development has occurred on the back of the transformer discovery from a few years ago. That well is tapped now. What new tech are you referring to? There isn't any. This is the whole fallacy of the valuation of the AI startups as being $300bn and higher. It presumes there will be a great leap to AGI imminently. But there is no link between LLMs and AGI, nobody is anywhere near actually producing anything resembling AGI. There is no new tech on the horizon that will magically improve things now. LLMs have hit their limits and unless there is a major paradigm shift, which there is no sign of now, this is as good as it gets.

>>717998635
>why aren't you praising the tech enough
AI doesn't care whether you praise it or criticize it. Just you for some reason.

>>717998773
The data will be better, this was only trained on every piece of data in existence, it needs to be curated and analyzed better, like when we have all the data about everyone's movements in 3D scan 24/7 then you will be able to make perfect animations.

>>717998516
>It's part of the reason all the original founding researchers of OpenAI have left the company.
You conviently forgot to mention they all work in other AI companies now.

>>717998891
excellent banter chap

>>717998516
>They've already hit their limits
Benchmarks are still constantly getting up.

>>717979474 (OP)
probably 50-100 years at the absolute minimum.
when I see shit like your webm, all I could think of is those beginner "artists" who think they made amazing art because they traced over someone else's painting. you can reproduce and copy tiny fidgets of something, but not the actual substance.

>>717998956
They work at other companies because they can float their company publicly too and make billions instead of millions. They're trying to cash out by selling stocks to dumb retail investors before the bubble pops, just like Altman is. Everyone knows LLMs are a dead end and not going to produce AGI and start replacing employees, but the average investor doesn't know that yet. Great time to make bank before they realize.

>>717998834
It's not about praise, it's giving credit where credit is due. I do not think AI is some god in digital form that can do everything, but what it can do is damn impressive. And sure, there are things it could do better, and it probably will do those things better at some point if current trends continue. Or not, that is also possible.

>>717999043
The returns are rapidly diminishing now. GPT5 is a downgrade on GPT4o because they're focusing on cost effectiveness and power efficiency now, not improvements on model quality.

>>717999051
>50-100 years at the absolute minimum
Just a reminder, this was 2 years ago

>>717998656
Who will make that tech? All of our future MIT grads are having chatGPT write their term papers. LLMs have plateau'd, but they've already significantly damaged education. What ever happened to fucking graphene anyway? I'm so much more interested in the technology that was supposed to turn landfills into power plants than the technology that produces even more low quality pornography that the internet was already drowning in ten years ago.

>>717999123
>GPT5 is a downgrade on GPT4o

This is blatantly untrue. GPT5 can output complete and working programs when asked to code things, something that GPT4o struggled with.

>>717999170
No, that was 4 years ago. 2 years ago is indiatinguishable from what we have now.

>>717998516
That is exactly what was said about computers. "yeah we could make it like 2x as good, but would that really change anything? It can already compute 100 digits of pi in a few seconds"
Some years later and... Woah turns out we can freeze a single photons quantum state to act as a memory cell.

Just put that in perspective of AI. You have a literal buzzing meatsack in your skull thats doing all this stuff youre doing right now. Thats not even close to single photon memory cells. Technology hasnt even progressed to the point of beating a brain.
It will blow your shitty little mind to see what will become.

>>717998962
I mean I am correct, the problem is shit data, look at how good it is when you feed it high quality paintings, the data is just shit in other fields.

>>717999264
Why do you feel the need to lie?

None of the AI freaks have any actual opinions or vision on game design, it's purely visuals. No better than the AAA tech gold rush we already have, just different people hoping to get rich off of it

>>717999190
The people who know what they're doing just like always? I use AI all the time to learn programming, it's great to explain things to you. 99% all human output is shit as you can see in art and writing, so 99% of humans are shit.

>>717998357
This. AI will never be smart enough to just instantly proompt a whole world. It will develop the assets you have to place in an engine like building blocks by yourself. You will still need human programmers. You might still need human animators for anything beyond simple animations like walking. You will still need an actually creative human being directing the whole thing cause AI has no imagination and neither do the jeets that think this will be their 'do it all instantly' wondertool. People who had no good ideas before will continue to have no good ideas even when AI reaches it's peak. Said people will never achieve anything even when AI makes actually good 3D assets on it's own because they don't have good ideas. Nothing will really change. Uninspired faggots with bad ideas 90% of people in all races will never amount to anything, the remaining 10% will thrive. But in the end it will still always just be a tool that still requires human input-- and said human input will make or break every AI"sloppa" game that will ever come out.

And from there some people might just use whatever success they get from the AI-assisted 'proof of concept' first game to recruit a team of proper human beings for a superior second one.

>>717999417
Ok and? AI will design.

>>717999170
Wake up sweaty, that was nearly 4 years ago. AI has plateaued in terms of input to output. Doesn't really matter though, AI media generation has intrinsic and inherent flaws that no amount of fine tuning and data scrubbing will fix. It generates rasterized imagery on the spot, without any context. It can't generate anything coherent or consistent.

>>717999462
Human animators are driving Uber and killing themselves now. If you don't integrate AI into your workflow you're just going to starve "artist" loser.

>>717999115
>giving credit where credit is due
Like what? Reminder that this is a video game board, so name something actually related.

>>717999264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Smith_Eating_Spaghetti_test

>>717999264
>>717999521
Why do you lie when it can so easily be disproven?

>>717998516
>They've already hit their limits in the last year
go to civitai. go to videos. filter for "this year" then filter for "all time" note the extreme differences. then "this month." then kill yourself.

>>717999402
>>717999564
>>717999632
Samefag shill lmao

holy fxcking SOULxKINO im willing to never shower or brush my teeth again if it means that water would be instead going towards data centers powering GAMING OF THE FVTVRE (vgh)

>>717999232
The actual conversational part is a significant downgrade. Altman is even talking about reinstating 4o because the reception to 5 is so bad. Go read /r/ChatGPT to see how badly 5 is being received by people who used it daily. It's a downgrade. And AI produced code tends to be dogshit anyway, it's just what grade of code diarrhea is it producing

>>717999521
>>717999264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stable_Diffusion
stable diffusion isn't even four years old.

>>717999292
>Woah turns out we can freeze a single photons quantum state to act as a memory cell.
No we fucking can't. Fucking hell, AI fags fell for the quantum computer meme too?

>>717999462
Animation is one of those things where I see AI taking over and actually being an improvement. Being able to decide on the required pose based on the player's input and the character's current body locomotion instead of on precanned animations would go a long way in the realism department.
Basically motion matching but without having thousands of animations to pick from. It just generates them on the fly.

>>717999292
Go look at graphs of it plateauing in the past year, there is no moore's law here. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>717999490
Design what

>>717999552
AIdungeon at its prime was really, really good.

>>717999724
>AI slop videos for Facebook boomers have become 1% better in the PAST MONTH ALONE
wow, this is definitely worth the several trillion dollar valuation its getting on the stock market and not an extremely obvious bubble

>>717999836
This is a bad thing. Games need visual consistency.

>>717999539
Hello Saar. AI is not your wonder-tool and will still need human input and actually good, creative ideas (which you don't have). Stay mad.

>>717999836
You will still need canned animations for combat. Especially anime-style combat. I don't want to see what horrible fever dream hallucination AI comes up with trying to generate that on the fly.

>>717999943
anon civitai's content is primarily locally generated from open source models.

>>717999902
Not a game though.

>>718000028
I'm not talking about Meta's models, I'm talking about the primary consumers of these trash videos being the elderly on Facebook. There is no economic value being produced here, just regurgitating permutations of art from actually talented artists that it was trained on

>>717999795
>And AI produced code tends to be dogshit anyway, it's just what grade of code diarrhea is it producing

Here's a video of someone prompting GPT5 for a Photoshop clone and to include it all in a standalone html file.

https://youtu.be/IrWtw9ehB2g?t=515

>>718000140
>ai can't do hands
>ai can't do animation
>ai can't do long animations
>uuhhhh there's no economic value

what part of locally generated open source are you missing?

The major problems they have are consistency and recollection, and those problems have been there since day 1.
It seems like until there's some major breakthrough; AI will be regulated to simple things like images and short videos.

>>717999761
hurt your feefees when people call out your lies?

>>718000220
Who are you quoting? I never said any of that. These are bullshit meme videos that are fodder for social networks and nothing more. What value to society is getting created here other than occupying the elderly on social networks? Nothing.

>>718000106
>Text adventures are not a game because you were a participant in creating them

I see the goalposts are moving again

>>717979474 (OP)
in an alternate timeline there is /v/ excited about the future possibilities instead of endlessly seething artists that they cant grift 300 dollars for a 1girl standing pinup anymore

>>718000308
>ai can't do hands
>ai can't do animation
>ai can't do long animations
>uuhhhh there's no economic value
>uuhhhhhh there's no value for society

>>718000206
>GPT can generate a toy project based on code it ingested from StackOverflow
wow, software engineers surely are extinct after this. Try asking it a Leetcode problem it has never seen before and watch it implode because it can't actually code, just regurgitate related code from its training set

>>717979474 (OP)
two more weeks
lel

What are some things that AI could do to actually push game design forward outside of aesthetics and generating infinite useless content? Give me an example of a dungeon design that benefits from AI and why we can't have it with the tools we have today

>>718000308
>What value to society is getting created here
this nigga just keeps going farther

>>718000392
Am I communicating with an LLM right now? I never said any of that shit and you're quoting nobody. And you're still dodging the question of what value is being created because the answer is obviously none.

>>718000310
It's not a game because collaborative storytelling is not a game. Games have consistent rules and a win and/or loss condition.

>>718000310
No Anon, it's not a game because it has virtually no rules. Word is not a video games even though you can write a fantasy story in it.

>>718000474
>ai can't do hands
>ai can't do animation
>ai can't do long animations
>uuhhhh there's no economic value
>uuhhhhhh there's no value for society
>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh you're ai

just laughing at the steady progression of cope on display.

>>718000564
You're responding to several different people you absolute drooling fucking retard

>>718000475
>collaborative storytelling is not a game

>>718000398
Here we have a case example of the average anti-AI fag.

>Look at this, AI created a fully functional app with just a very short text prompt. That's pretty neat, right?
>Pfffft, call me when it can replace programmers entirely! Fucking pathetic!

It's just constantly kicking the ball further down the hallway so they can stay mad.

>>718000642
>rules
Proving his point there.

>>718000606
No, i'm really not. we all know you've said all of that at some point.

>>718000675
But what can YOU do, anon?

>>718000475
>>718000535
You can create and enforce rules yourself. Checkmate, atheists.

>>718000450
>why we can't have it with the tools we have today
Most of the things AI will be doing wont be revolutionary, it will just make it better/easier/faster/cheaper all at the same time.

>>718000691
>his
lol

language is rules bro.

>>718000769
neuralnet processing has already revolutionized dozens of fields. its works best in situations where there's an objective/verifiable failstate that the ai can try and automatically dismiss a generation as failed.

>>718000675
AI companies have been claiming to be able to replace employees for years now, and they still can't, so this is not some strawman position I'm making up to unfairly criticize AI companies, this is their own fallacious claims that don't stand up to scrutiny.

You're buying into yet another scam by tech shitstains, first it was crypto which the president has now used to rugpull his mouthbreathing supporters. Next it was NFTs which these same people used to heist billions off dumbasses. Now we're at LLMs which was developed by some Indian PhDs at Google, then hijacked by the same class of scumbag techbro to scam yet you yet again. Yet you keep falling for it.

Any entry-level programmer could produce this toy project in an afternoon or less. And AI is not coding this, it is spitting out code it found on Github and pretending like it coded this. And again, you're falling for it.

>>718000853
So apply that to games

>>718000853
that's great retard except he explicitly stated dungeon design. you cannot revolutionize dungeon design.

>>718000783
No it isn't. Game mechanics are rules. Spitballing a story with your bro or a demon trapped in a silicon matrix is just collaborative narrative

>>718000751
Now you've created a game in a program that wasn't one before.

>>717979474 (OP)
It took like three years to go from nightmarish slop to what your webm, so I'd say it's gonna take another year or so for the first parkour games, walking sims and horror sloppa to show up and then maybe another 2-3 years until we get games with actual gameplay and progression.

>>718000853
>neuralnet processing has already revolutionized dozens of fields
No.

>>718000783
>language is rules
And you don't need to follow them to interact with AI dungeon.

>>718000905
Go prompt GPT5 for the app and check the code it spits out. If it was lifting it directly from somewhere, you should be able to pinpoint the exact Github repo it lifted it from, right?

But I guess this is the point where you say that it isn't your responsibility to back up your claims, isn't it?

>>718000853
>neuralnet processing has already revolutionized dozens of fields
what the fuck are you talking about

>>718000905
Companies lying and hypeing up is nothing new. Disregarding the potential of AI because corpos want more investors is not smart.

Also no company has said they can fully replace workers right now.
Also people are already losing their jobs to AI and it's making many peoples job easier / more productive.

>>718001183
>Also no company has said they can fully replace workers right now.
There's literally ads all over San Francisco saying replace your employees with AI right now. And Microsoft literally laid off 10k employees last month and said they were replaced with AI

And it's all lies and bullshit
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxl0w1w394o

>>718001323
>AI companies have been claiming to be able to replace employees for years now, and they still can't
>And Microsoft literally laid off 10k employees last month and said they were replaced with AI
??????

>>718001323
Cutting down certain positions is not the same as letting your entire workforce go in favor of AI, anon.

>>717979474 (OP)
its going to be 5-10 years or more before people can even dream of creating feature complete games entirely from AI prompts.

>>718001323
>And Microsoft literally laid off 10k employees last month and said they were replaced with AI
Nowhere in that article they say people are being replaced by AI. It says they cut costs to invest more in AI.

>>718001424
Microsoft lied to boost their stock price you numbskull

>>718001323
>And Microsoft literally laid off 10k employees last month and said they were replaced with AI
And actually just replacing them with fucking indians

>>718001449
The reality is it will be more like these posts said;
>>717999958
>>717999462
>>717998357

>>718000910
>does game run? y/n
>does game run well? y/n
>does game run on x? y/n

>>718001498
pathetic cope

>>718001503
Just like when Amazon said they were running their 'Go' stores with advanced AI and computer vision techniques. And it turns out the whole things was just a warehouse of Indians watching security cameras.

The whole modern tech industry is just lies built on lies. And people keep gobbling it up. This thread is the perfect example of the gullibility of the average person.
https://www.businessinsider.com/amazons-just-walk-out-actually-1-000-people-in-india-2024-4

>>718000956
>he thinks language isn't a set of rules for communication
>he thinks this is an intellectual superior stance

at this point these threads only exist to watch the 80 iq brigade show off new and creative ways to be stupid.

>>718001323
Ah yeah, sorry. I meant the actual big LLM makers when talking about replacing workers, not some scam aijeet start ups who ofcourse say anything to get money.

>>718001613
are there a bunch of jeets in my computer training my model?

>>718001674
These rules aren't required for communication. See your own post.

>>718001613
The average person does not give a fuck what is happening at microsoft or some other megacorporation or across the world. They care that the free-to-use and easy to access LLM can do something for them, and it can in most cases.

You are focusing on the wrong things when trying to gauge whether or not the tech "works". It's always about the individual, and on an individual level, AI can be very helpful.

>>718001613
How is, say Genie 3, seen in the OP, a lie for example?

>>718001874
gunas[djfdsa bpivasdfhb asd['p jfpdsabnuup9hb[avposnd'safm

you should be able to understand what i said because communication doesn't have any rules

>>718001810
About 75% of ChatGPT usage is literally kids cheating on school assignments. You can see the usage drop three quarters when the school year ended. These kids are penniless and monetizing them will be pointless. Yet OpenAI is apparently valued at $300bn.

This bubble popping is going to make the dotcom bubble look like small fry

>>718001968
Yeah I did. What now?

>>718002004
See, you don't even know what i'm talking about. you have zero knowledge of open source local generation.

you know nothing of this subject outside of what clickbait has fed you.

>>718002004
>this tech is a useless lie
>75% of chatgpt usage is it being useful to someone

>>718002024
no need to lie on the internet anon. no one believes you anyway.

>>718002101
I'm fully aware of what local open source generation is. I'm talking about what are LLMs actually being used for on a global scale. What are people finding them useful for in their day-to-day? And it turns out, the vast majority of it is just cheating on assignments.

>>717996504
nowhere near
the only decent sounding AI music is human produced and sang with voice filters, fully AI produced music still sounds like it was recorded in a garage with a blackberry mic

>>717980397
Al: Artificial la creatividad

>>718002162
Obviously cheating on assignments is corrosive to society because it means people are getting degrees and diplomas that they didn't actually earn and are incapable of doing the thing their degree/diploma supposedly qualifies them to do. But you already knew that and are just being a faggot

>>718002201
so its useful. got it.

we all know you decided years ago to be against this stuff and you're going to find progressively absurd excuses to be against it.

>>718002168
Sorry, I do not understand this post. You didn't capitalize the first letter of each sentence.

>>718002283
>people are getting degrees and diplomas that they didn't actually earn

yes that never happened before ai.

>>718002340
I work in tech and I'm tired of the whole joint just being shitted up by charlatans doing nonsense work that benefits nobody except shithead kids trying to cheat on their homework. It's at the point now where most jobs are in bullshit AI startups that are trying to find new ways to insert it into applications where it has no actual benefit other than swindling VCs out of money. It's the dumbest bubble I've ever lived though. At least the dotcom bubble created some useful tech.

>>718002283
>he says this on /v/ video games

>>718002454
sounds like your problem is with the venture capitalist system.

>>717979474 (OP)
Game needs to have a solid goal, this isn't a game.

>>718002681
lmao. pinnacle of innovation right there

>>718002681
The venture capitalism system turned rotten years ago. And people like Marc Andreessen got the mistaken impression they are far smarter than they actually are. Tech since 2020 is just grifting, I would wager not a single valuable company has been created

>>718002202
The audio quality could of course be better, but in terms of actual composition and such, music generation is ahead of image generation by leaps and bounds.

https://files.catbox.moe/fq4t1z.mp3

>>717998635
Because nobody fucking needs this. Free stock pictures/royalty free music/open source code have existed for years and thats what people traced/copied before AI became a thing
The "best case scenario" for AI is every storefront looking like pic related, trillions of worthless games nobody cares about with no thought put into them. Will the devs know if the game is beatable? Of course not. Are they going to be capable of fixing that if it happens without regenning the entire game again? Lmao, take a guess.
Obviously anyone with a brain will keep shitting on it while the people that were shilling Metaverse and NFTs years ago will go BUT BRO THE PERFORMANCE THE EFFICIENCY when the reality is that this will just cause mass enshittification in levels never seen before

>>718002857
>Tech since 2020 is just grifting
except when it isn't. and there are tons of applications for machine learning that you won't read about, because no one is writing clickbait about them.

>>718002989
If there was anything worthwhile to write about it, it would be getting written about. Instead it's 'wooooah this LLM just generated 500 lines of completely useless slop vibe code that would instantly fail a code review in any corporate programming environment, THE FUTURE IS NOW'

>>717996436
i've seen people who's goalposts are already out in the ether, something like "ai will never be good because only bad people like ai and will only make bad things"

>>717979474 (OP)
According to techbros? In a month or two. According to reality? Not in our lifetimes.

I give it two years and AI will develop object permanence and be able to properly represent three-dimensional objects in 2d and 3d environments.

>>718003086
>ai revolutionizes a field
>wow that's cool
>...

>students cheating with ai and here's why that's a good thing
>[twitter mob engage]

>>718003175
it currently has almost perfect object permanence for a minute and imperfect for around 7

>>718003175
>i give it two years for something it can already do

every time

>>718003235
ai hasn't revolutionized any field. At this point, you obviously hold stocks in Nvidia or something and have a vested interest in spreading this bullshit. Hopefully you lose your shirt on the investment when the bubble pops

>>718003339
It brought 2009 google searching back with chatgpt. That's pretty much it though

>>718003339
https://alphafold.ebi.ac.uk/

next goalpost?

>>718003386
>ai detecting and purging SEO shit

oh thank god

>>718003453
This is machine learning that predates the modern "AI" revolution. I've noticed this is a tactic to try to conflate all the mania of the past few years with machine learning of the 2010s to try to make LLMs seem useful by blurring it all into one big 'AI' box. Fuck off disingenuous scum

>>718003542
>that doesn't count because it wasn't yesterday!

lol. just lol.

>>718003542
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaFold

so a current and actively progressing revolution of this field doesn't count because...

>>718003730
AlphaFold was invented prior to LLMs and has nothing to do with them. It's entirely unrelated to the subject of this thread, which is slop video generated by transformer models

>>717986338
>>717986595
Your brown

>>718003175
>>718003282
>>718003306
Why can't you retards just focus on developing AI that can generate a full toolbox of 3D assets for a human to fill a game world with? Why are you trying to get it to prompt a whole world in realtime? Are you jeets so worthless you can't even slap pre-made assets into a map editor and create a world with it?

>>718003868
>invented
anon the inventors were just awarded the nobel prize in chemistry last year.

you're really leaning hard into your ignorance now.

>>718003957
>Why are you trying to get it to prompt a whole world in realtime

so the world can be interacted with in ways that aren't specifically coded. the ability for unexpected reactions that result in something other than a program crash.

>>718003994
Where am I denigrating AlphaFold? It just has nothing to do with LLMs which is where all the trillions of investment is currently going and is the subject of this thread which you appear to have missed

>>718003957
there are all sorts of types of models being developed and researched retard
https://huggingface.co/tencent/Hunyuan3D-2

>>718004106
>where am I denigrating [ai]? it has nothing to with [ai]

I mean I think I get it. you think ai is ONLY llm's or at least that's the final goalpost you're clinging to.

>>718004106
you think genie-3 is an llm?

>>718004094
Yeah well save that for after you retards get AI to make actually good individual 3D assets that can compete with AAA or even AA quality games first. You're putting the wagon before the horse at this point.

>>718004195
tiresome fuckwit

>>717979474 (OP)
All these over the shoulder AI slop videos are somehow worse than Unreal Engine.

>>718004225
the exhaustion your feeling is your ability to argue from your obviously ignorant and incorrect position.

>>718004216
why?

>>718004216
YVO3D and dozens of others like it already exist.

>>717995463
>"pollution" is a buzzword used by lefties to guilt people into making their own lives worse.

>>718004404
let him think that. its a luxury. he'd have a fucking seizure had he ever experienced real pollution.

>>717979474 (OP)
The thing about AI is that most people don't give a shit, but the bottom 20% of people are absolutely captivated by it because they're functionally retarded.

So yes I expect AI to take over the gaming industry, because milking the 20% of slop eating tards for everything they have is MUCH more profitable than making a good product with mainstream appeal for 75% of people.

It's the mobile gaming whale problem writ large. Sanjay from Delhi will give every cent from his paycheck for some LLM generated dlc because he can't even tell it's nonsensical kusoge.

This is going to be an even bigger nuke to gaming than gacha.

>>718004379
I already explained why you midwit.

>>718004393
And none of it is optimized or immediately rigged properly. Stop getting ahead of yourselves.

>>718004470
funny how none of those advocacy groups seem to mind the polluters in other non-western countries

>>718003957
ai slop generation is all about being as lazy as possible. if you actually want to put 1% of work you might as well go all the way and learn how to do it instead of depending on some clamped down model that will eventually fuck itself up

>>718004491
no, you screamed incoherently about nonsense. why should people develop technology x instead of technology y just because they're tangentially related?

>okay they exist but they suck
lmao

>>718004552
Those other countries are investing heavily in renewables to offset their fossil fuel emissions, unlike the US, which is deliberately going backwards

>>718004552
its an inherent problem of activism. no one actually cares about browns.

>>718004628
LMAO

>>718000310
>Text adventures are not a game because you were a participant in creating them
I've yet to find any set up with any LLM or prompt that could fully describe a room, then let me move objects or open containers in the room, then look at the room again without everything changing and new objects appearing around me or appearing at different locations or duplicating/changing state

That alone fucks up any kind of serious RPG type gameplay. I've even tried writing tools to assist in generating context or making grids or splitting locations into smaller chunks and having it process one at a time. It totally sucks on any kind of spacial awareness and object consistency.
That's before I even mention objects not making sense or missing. Like if I enter a gas station I expect there to be cash registers, shelves, an attached bathroom etc. It doesn't get this and it fucks up any exploration because it is either nonsensical or I have to tell it exactly what I find myself which might as well be cheating and breaks any sense of immersion.

>>718004712
China has the world's largest pipeline of renewable projects currently under construction or preparing to start. You could have googled this you dimwit

>>717979474 (OP)
Are people here actually not exited over how you can soon input a pic of your favourite location/game/anime/porn and instantly mess around in there?
My gooner imagination is already racing, like making a strip club where all your favourite anime/vidya characters are pole dancing and you just walk and enjoy the shows.

>>718004628
they're only doing that because of foreign aid incentives to do so, and the countries doing it the most are just covering their landmass in what will be trash in a couple decades. they're turning their countries into landfills for short term gains.

>>718001884
>and on an individual level, AI can be very helpful.
If you need to cheat on homework. Other use cases are very limited

>>718004827
There is virtually no foreign aid around any longer now that USAID is closed down. They're doing it because renewables are the cheapest form of power that exists currently

>>718004764
you missed the boat on ai dungeon

>>718004901
you should look up how china is funding all their renewable projects, dimwit.

>>718004808
its people with no imagination screaming at the rapidly approaching future.

>>718004987
China is funding its projects with government-backed debt, not foreign aid. Again, easily googleable, you're just too dumb to do it

>To do this, it used significant government-funded subsidies, said Ember's Muyi Yang

>>718004987
Nigga do you actually think China gets foreign aid?

>>718004596
Cause 'technology X' is needed for 'technology Y' retard. It still has to actually create 3D assets. There is no escaping that. Now finish the first step instead of just jumping to step 5 cause your dumb, brown ass thinks it's magic that can just do that.

>>718004583
Cause it's simply easier for AI to create the assets and do the building with said puzzle pieces yourself than spend 5-10 years trying to make subpar 3D models yourself just to then waste another 5-10 years poorly trying to put it all together in some awful solo dev project that falls into the pit that 99% of solo dev games do-- namely the garbage bin cause solo dev games are just dogshit outside of meme magic like Lethal Company and shit.

>>718004803
you think any of the other 54645612535 third world countries give a shit?

>>718004901
>renewables are the cheapest form of power that exists currently
Why is it the people who know the least that always spew the most retarded shit with complete confidence?

Yeah it's so cheap that it needs massive government subsidies. You are brown

>>718005084
Americans think everyone else is a third-world country because they've never travelled anywhere and have no idea about the outside world

>>718004808
Video games?

>>718005162
Kinda? Walking simulator lite.

>>718005147
Do you have any idea what kind of subsidies fossil fuels get you unbelievable retard?

>Globally, fossil fuel subsidies were $7 trillion or 7.1 percent of GDP in 2022, reflecting a $2 trillion increase since 2020 due to government support from surging energy prices.

>>717979474 (OP)
Never because there's no interactivity, this is a video. Shit thread. Shit bait.

>>718005235
Not really...

>>718005097
>'technology X' is needed for 'technology Y'
>you need a model that can generate static assets before you develop a model that can develop dynamic assets

feel free to explain why.

>>718005262
No it's not.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDKhUknuQDg

>>718004894
Or if you need a quick recipe for something you want to try.
Or if you want to look up information on something quicker than you would find it by googling it.
Or if you want to ask for movie recommendations.
Or if you just want to shoot the shit (you might think this is sad, but the reality is that many people just talk to these LLMs).

You are completely underestimating the value people are getting from very simple interactions. Sure, they could use google, but LLMs pretty much are the new google now.

>>718005119
pls understand higher fossil fuel usage necessary to cover country in trash it'll pay for itself in two more weeks

>>717985282
Imagine typing out all this massive seethe as if anyone cares.

Would it be possible to combine this with regular games? like you have the typical hand built game but when you wander into an area with nothing there the game switches over to the world model?

>>718004404
>>718004470
Nobody gives a shit after you retards whined about how the world was gonna flood and everyone was going to die, only for literally nothing to happen or change in the 30 years following.
Build more AI farms and maybe the world will flood from all your faggot ass tears.

>>718005313
Cause static is easier than dynamic you fucking retard. And once it masters static assets it can then do dynamic assets that much easier cause dynamic assets are just a direct advancement from static ones.

Machines still have to learn one step at a time just like human beings do, saar.

>>717979474 (OP)
God, imagine all the Niel Druckmanns who don't have to weasel their way into a leadership role this is going to enable and flood steam with absolute dogshit

>>718005345
>posts a video

>>718005471
But anon, we only have two- I mean five- I mean ten- I mean twenty- I mean thirty years before the earth will become uninhabitable!

>>718005476
>nooo you have to do the easy thing first even though the easy thing has nothing to do with the harder thing

...

>>718003957
>Why can't you retards just focus on developing AI that can generate a full toolbox of 3D assets for a human to fill a game world with?
That's the thing, they can't even generate 3d models reliably because the technology is not yet good enough. These "games" right now are just glorified videos with no real rules or physics, it's like having a guy walk in front of a green screen. Videos are nice in their own way but calling them games is a gimmick.

>>718005430
Probably not, this is basically a very sophisticated interactive video. Video games work on polygons, textures and models. Unless they could develop some very elaborate tool to convert between the two worlds, they are incompatible currently.

I just can't stand the fucking ads and how it insists upon itself. Easiest way to piss people off.

>>718005243
now compare that to renewable subsidies and then to TWh

I just want AI NPCs you can have conversations with.

Shit talking NPCs you're gunning down in an FPS sounds fun.

>>717980295
It's a real clip. I'm watching it right now.

>>718005430
I'm sure AI will be used just like that, to fill out the world with generated locations and every npc being unique looking and stuff. Not necessary so it generates endless new stuff live though

>>717979474 (OP)
ppl are so easily fooled. its just 360 degree images and not done in real time.

>>718005582
It doesn't magically sidestep the process of 3D assets entirely you literal brown retard. I'm done giving you anymore (You)'s after this.

>>718005747
no
>>718005345

>>718005667
Renewables are subsidized at around 1/3 of the rate of fossil fuels
>G20 governments provided at least USD 168 billion in public financial support for renewable power in 2023, less than one third of G20 fossil fuel subsidies that year.

>>718005097
It's easier until it isn't, and 100% of AI game projects have been thrown into the garbage bin so far even when AI supposedly makes them "easier" and "faster" to make

>>718005414
but is it wrong?

>>718005795
>edited first party video
ppl are so easily fooled

>This will make development easier and streamline a lot of the processes involved
>Oh yeah?! Why hasn't it done so already, huh? Huh?!

>>718005590
That's my point, they need to stop fucking trying to blatantly lie like a retarded jeet and just develop an AI that can make actually passable 3D models that are properly rigged and optimized by itself.

>>718005926
It will have zero impact on actual game development. This is a gimmick to pump Google's stock price.

>>717987363
CUTE

>web3 nft turboslop
hell yeahhh AI play the game for me im too stoned and semi od'd on fent lmao

>>718005604
>Video games work on polygons, textures and models.

you really should never post again about anything.

>>718005895
It has already been presented to journalists. And the research paper is coming at some point. Why would they just lie? We already have the tech with genie 2, why is improving it such an impossibility to you?

>>718005775
anon we came up with polygons and 3D assets to arrange pixels on a screen easier. generative ai directly arranges pixels on the screen in accordance to a prompt.

>>718005961
Another case of "It can't even do X" and when it is pointed out that X can be done, then the goalposts shift to X but with Y.

YVO3D can create static 3D models you can just drop into your software of choice. But now that's not enough, it has to be fully rigged. And I bet when that's possible you're just going to demand the assets to come pre-animated too.

>>718005604
>video games work on polygons, textures, and models
Are you real?

>>718005810
keep going, now do the $ to TWh ratio.

>>718006208
>journalists
so they got a press kit with video.3gp and bullshots.bmp and embargo.docx and about_me.pdf
nothing that would convince a real human with critical thinking into believing any of what they showed is real

>>718006336
So you can lose the argument even harder? google it yourself kiddo

There's really no point with arguing with these bad faith luddites

>>718006379
I accept your concession.

>>717980474
Theres bot going to be any AAA companies by the time AI gemerated games are even remotly feasable.

>>718006351
genie 2 is real and available right now and does basically the same thing but a bit worse

>>718006279
Yes. It needs to be fucking properly rigged or it can't be used in said software/engine, retard. I WANT AI to remove corporations from the game dev equation but it needs to do more than make a fucking clay model with flat, painted on textures that you can't animate or anything.

>>718005968
>zero impact on actual game development
AAA games are all outsourced to indians, so they will get even worse as they devolve from durgasoft indians to e = mc^2 + AI indians

>>718006453
a lot worse actually the improvements are pretty big

>>718006208
>y lie
name 1 silicon valley startup that doesnt lie out of their ass to get venture capitalists stalking their asses for ez fortnite bux

There is no point in arguing with these bad faith luddites

>>718006269
Polygons and 3D assets are the end-point of game development. There is nothing past it. Just make AI that can make AA/AAA-tier, properly rigged and optimized 3D assets/models and shut up retard.

can I use this myself?

>>718006515
That's Google Deepmind, responsible for many big scientific advances in AI tech. Not some startup.

>>717979474 (OP)
>completely
First it should at least start doing it.

>>718005926
Current game development needs less streamlining and more people that actually care about the work they are doing. Thats why double A gaming is currently ruling btw.

>>718006471
>AI completely removes the need to create a base model and texture, leaving only the steps of rigging and possibly animating the model
>That's not enough! I want more!

And you most likely will get more as these technologies improve but holy shit, just appreciate what is already there because it is impressive as shit and cuts down hugely on the amount of work required to create assets.

>>718006630
Not until daddy google deems it safe for public.

>>718004808
>mess around in there
By slowly walking?

>>718006710
You literally can't remove the need for proper base models and PROPER textures, retard.

>>718006208
>Why would they just lie?
It happened before
>Google admits that a Gemini AI demo video was staged
>There was no voice interaction, nor was the demo happening in real time.

>>718006579
you're technically correct in the sense that generative AI is going to go back to just direct manipulation of pixels on the screen, you could even call it hand-drawn. the point is "development" of video games is soon going to be obsolete.

>>718006769
You can also prompt stuff to happen live.

>>718006919
>the point is "development" of video games is soon going to be obsolete.
absolutely retarded. Genie 2 changed nothing in game development, Genie 3 will change nothing in game development. It is a toy project by Google scientists, nothing more.

>>718007026
And slowly walk around it?

>>718006769
I wouldn't mind walking around an endlessly generating ancient roman city for example

>>718006919
That's literally not how video game technology works, you actual brown retard. And it never will work that way either. Just make an AI that can make optimized, properly rigged, individual, proper 3D assets you fucking retard.

>>718007171
Sounds like a fucking nightmare.

post the dog on the beach

>>718007118
For now. With TODAYS tech.

Also there are some small actions you can take like shown with the wall painting.

>>718007250
>With TODAYS tech.
Yeah? Give me a link, I will generate something.

>>718006769
Slowly walking around in my dream nightclub where my favourite vidya girls dance in microbikinis doesn't sound so bad

>>718005747
Oh shit is that Kitt Peak?

>>718006919
just two more weeks for when the hypercensored ai that is based off reddit, youtube and linkedin develops a good games saars

>>718007351
>>717990274

Googles genie models are not available for public yet.

>>718007204
anon, every single solitary example of video game technology was developed to arrange pixels on a screen.

>>718007696
Probably because it requires an entire datacenter's worth of processing power to create one model, which is just conveniently omitted from the flashy promo videos

>>718007451
anon its all already open source.

>>718007780
Creating and using a model are very different things.

>>717987485
I am dust

>>718007867
and who is going to write down the knowledge of all of the greatest gaming devs in the world and train the model on that? you? can't wait for it

>>718007873
Google isn't gonna let you make a billion dollar game using their model

>>718007204
>>718007451
man, you almost looked extremely stupid, then you turned it around by calling him what ai will primarily replace.

>>718008362
these threads are great if you want to see new and creative forms of absolute ignorance.

>>718009141
No one is making games with these models.
And why the fuck wouldn't google sell game making tools for profit?

what i never understood is if the tech is supposed to be for you to put in as little effort as possible and still create a finished product why get so defensive over said product as if you actually spent hours on it or had any real part in its creation

See you all at the next retarded AI thread where they try to sell their snake oil